“Reluctant Chili Eater”

We're going to go around the NBA with Brian Windhorst, and we'll talk about Michael Jordan's winning streak in NASCAR. NASCAR, not the NBA with Ryan McGee.

But first, let's do some commerce boys and girls.

Previously, on the Tony Cornheiser show. When you think they did our slapping with Logan Paul, I would hum that. So it's just kind of a malemation of tons of people that are getting fit, strength, jack, that whole thing in Arnold there.

And you touch a nice man and feel kind, I couldn't turn it down. You know what comes from Columbus on this show? Jenny's ice cream. Oh, yes. Made in Columbus.

“So maybe you should find Jenny herself and sit down and do ice.”

That would be a better sport. You'd just say, all you people want to be fit with Arnold. You go to the left. I'm going to the right. I'm going to Jenny's.

The Tony Cornheiser show is on now. So I should mention this. That show that we did on Wednesday. There was a risk involved in that show. Well, nervous.

Yeah, if you pay attention to this show all the time,

you know, I only put my friends on. I put on people whose voices I know, whose thoughts I'm aware of, whose orientation I get. We all look at the world in the same way. It's a show about being in a club and you let the people

into the club who you like. And I put on two people, I don't know. I don't know Todd Harris. I'm thrilled by what he did on, you know, on Olympics mentioning my name. I don't know Matt Barry.

I know it's work, but I don't know him. It's not familiar voices to me. It's not familiar voices to you. I'm not trying to say that we're not going to do expansionism here.

“We're not going to bring in a lot of people that we don't know.”

But it worked. It worked. I mean, they were wonderful. They were wonderful guests. I don't know.

It do us. It was a love show. But it was risky. I felt that was risky.

I was looking at this show with a school calendar.

You have these things giving you a various breaks. You have to sort of build the culture. And with us, we are defined by the starts and the stops at different sports calendars. And right now, we are in a period of time

where we can have those types of shows. And it's fun. Yeah, I thought it was fun. Sort of risky and fun. I liked it.

I liked them both. Should I cancel Rita Moreno then? I know we're going to talk to her. Oh, we're not going to have Rita Moreno. Snow forecast.

Little more snow coming Monday. It's going to be 60 on Saturday, right? It's good. All right. Driving range is opening up.

Yes, from one to four. Drink hours. From one to four, only at Columbia. There it has. It hasn't been open in literally a month.

You know why? It's only open from one to four. They have to hand pick the balls. They can't use the machines. Those out there and retrieves all the golf balls.

They're hand picking them because there's still some snow out there. What are the kids aim at? You know, I don't know. They get because now you can't aim at the target, not the cart. You can't aim at the cart anymore.

In news, affecting this show and the friendship that we have with the variety of people, Barry's for legal work for the athletic. Yes, congrats. Throughout a column in the Washington DC area, he will work for the athletic. So other people, the post who I don't really know have been hired.

But Barry is somebody that we should mention. The editor, whose brother writes into the show. Jason is going to go work for the athletic, congrats on that. The Washington Post puts out a sports section every day. It's about four or six pages.

It's all wire copy. It's big pictures, all wire copy and sometimes it's about European soccer and sometimes it's about European F1 races and sometimes it's about World Cup and what's coming up. And sometimes it's about something that someone who lives in Washington might be interested in.

But it's written not by anyone you know. And it's written in the stylistically, it's, you know, get all, get all the news front loaded and then move on. And it doesn't even have a get. It doesn't have standings.

It doesn't have box scores. It's tremendously insulting.

“I mean, honestly, it's tremendously insulting because it's, it's an excuse for a sports”

section. It's not a real sports section. You know how I feel about this, everybody knows how I feel about this. I went to the chili cuckoff last night at Columbia, Carolina, I went, we sat with our friend out.

What were you just tasting? Were you also serving? No, I was not serving. I was tasting. I was, there were six or seven different chilies.

One of them wasn't even a chili. One of them was pulled pork. It was really good. You know, then you get very small little cups. Yeah, you take any of those cups that, you know, that normally a doctor would give you

four pills, two or three pills. Like a bad cup. Like a bad cup. What you are very small, very small, and spoons all over the place, and you go from chili to chili.

And Carol gave me bad information at the beginning. Carol said that all the chili, or no, all the chilies on each table are the same chili. They're not different chilies, but they're only two tables.

And then I look closely and indeed, each different, that of chili was labelled with a different number. Because you vote. Now who goes to these things? Old people.

Looking for that meal. Old people for free food. Go to these things.

“So what you should do, if you're a Columbia, you send out messages to everybody over”

70. So you want free food tomorrow night, it's chili cook off. Now are all the chilies, three days later, you get a couple of discounted drinks too. Yeah, but I bought something I bought a beer to have with all this chili. That's what I was going to make the money.

I know it's fine. It's a lovely event.

It really is a second time.

And it's a lovely event. I don't know who won. I will find out today who won. I voted for number three, all voted for number one. All of the chilies were pretty similar and all pretty good.

One I didn't like, it was just too sweet. You could taste the sugar in it. I don't. I don't want it. I don't know.

I don't know. I've been with it. If it's snake, they've had alligator. I don't think so. But I don't know.

And everybody was everybody who was there. And you would not recognize as a chili like chili very day, like something that looks like. I don't know. I don't know.

I would just scoop it up, and then I would eat it, and then I would go back and get more. I thought that was my job. I was going to vote. Yeah.

I was going to fulfill my obligations by voting for the one I thought was best. I didn't. The one I thought was best was not even chili, so I didn't. I couldn't vote. It was like the bullet pork.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. Truly. What are your thoughts on beans and chili? I'm not.

It's okay. I'm not. Here's what I like. I am sort of a reluctant chili eater in that I would like it to be over rice.

“I think that rice comes down the taste of most foods, and certainly it would calm down”

the taste of chili. You want chili once or twice a winter, right? Yeah, this was my. This was my share.

So Nigel would always famously make one pot of chili, and make it as hot as possible.

No. It was like 40 gallons. Yeah. You freeze it? No.

I just give it out. I enjoyed. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed doing it. I just spend a couple of hours and see some people that I knew when I liked it.

And everybody there was old. I mean, there was a couple of tables of young people. I wanted to go over and ask for their passport. I don't know what are you doing here. What are you doing here?

You very bargain. You can afford to go get meal. You're not old. You're living on a pension like the rest of us, you know, come on. Okay.

Also, we got one. Wine was. Oh yes. Let me, I just lost an earpiece. Oh, it's in.

Oh, it's still in the ear. Still in the ear. Hold on. This is ridiculous. This moment's happened.

I need to have a new earphones. I need to keep going on. Well, we've been trying to replace these earphones for years. What I thought when I do is I yank on the cord and they full out of my mind. So when you imagine someone doing a podcast, you normally are imagining someone with

over the ear headphones. Yeah. I don't want to keep it on. Wear those. I don't like those.

They hurt my head. All right. This came to us from Dave Burns in Grand Junction, Colorado. And it is, they sent us two bottles of wine. Michael, can you describe the wine or even it's a, it's a peach fork.

It's a 2020 peach we can borsan, Cham borsan, Cham borsan. Yeah. And the other one. The other one is a blau French. That's another one.

Dave Burns sent these about peach fork wines, where the guy who makes the wines is Phil Patton, a P.A.T.T.O.N. And it's in Colorado. So who do we have in Colorado? We have Neil Airvase.

That's right. But maybe a lot of fruit notes to it. Okay. So this is, yeah, these are peach fork is a small family owned and operated winery. All the grapes have grown on the property in Palacade, Colorado, along with apples, payers,

a few plums and the best peaches you'll ever taste. Mmm. Which is very, very nice. No, I'm not a peach person. I don't like peaches.

I don't like the taste of them. And I don't eat things that are fuzzy. Yeah. I don't like the taste of them. And I don't eat things that are fuzzy.

Yeah. Like plums, they're not fuzzy. Nectarines. Yeah. Plums tart, small, hard plums.

When they give you the ones that are squishy and soft, no give them to someone else. I don't want them. I know what I want. I'm not a plums guy. I'm not a pears guy.

I'm not a pears guy. Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean, they're certain type.

I like apple pie. Yeah. I don't like to sit and eat apples.

“Are you just thinking about apples from like 20, 30 years ago, like a red delicious?”

Have you tried a honey crisp? Yeah. apples are okay. I just don't. I don't favor apples.

I like them in pies. How do you like them apples? I got a number. Yeah. Can't help it.

So this is peach fork. This is peach fork. And we will try these. Yes. That is maybe very tasty.

They have a lot of looking. Roasted blackberry, boys and berry and plum offering a balanced and approachable tasting. Okay.

So it gives you the kids first.

See you. Yeah. I like it. That's what I got. I don't really have any.

Oh, did you want to read the letter? Well, let me talk about the email. I don't what? Oh, which one?

This one. From Alexis King? Listen to this.

“I'm just saying this just, I'm reading this.”

Every word. I'm reading every word. I'm not leaving any words out. I'm not adding any words. Hi Tony Kaye has a retail shoes business, a line of credit and term funding could help

cover inventory costs during seasonal spikes. We keep up front costs simple so you don't slow down when shipments arrive or sales push up. If you're interested in a quick chat to see how it could fit your cadence, thanks again Alexis King.

A lot of buzzwords. What are you talking about? Are we in the shoe business? This is like getting the shoe business. Matt's in the shoe business.

Matt and one shoe at a time. Come on. Matt and Evan's in the shoe. But how did I get in the shoe business? We get an awful lot of solicitations in the mailbox.

Why? Just, you know, you don't know, mailing list or something. This is terrible. I mean, a lot of times it's like, hey, we can help the podcast rolling the mail back. You're business and I don't have a business.

Well, the as the podcast, but I've never seen one completely unrelated to anything that

we're involved in. The retail shoe game. You do talk about shoes a lot. Well, I talk about a lot of things a lot on my business. I bet on it.

This is a sales opportunity. That's probably AI generates. It's probably has to be. And it's always a tell when they send an email and it's like, dear Tony Cornheiser show.

It's never like that. Well, all of my emails that say Anthony, I just delete them. No point. I mean, they don't know who I am. So it's not coming to me at that point.

We should mention that from Tom Cacrid and Bluegrass, Iowa, a melancholy happy chose to my good friend and loyal little Alan Orkin, not that Alan Orkin as he would share in his emails to you this past Friday. Al past away at the age of 95, it's a long run. Robert's of all?

Yes, exactly. Yes. So life under the highlights of day was when a new Tony Cornheiser podcast would drop into his phone. He could listen to the show.

So that's very, very nice.

You always talk about the connective tissue of the show in my friendship with Al's

an example of it. We first met many years ago at the local YMCA. We talked about podcasts. We listened to I have a podcast from my job covering University of Iowa, athletics and hours a long time.

Iowa, fans. He mentioned he loves listening to your show. So did I. Our friendship was born. And from that point on, every time we saw each other, discussion always found it's

way to talk about the show and laughing about something unhappy on it. Three years ago, I'll move from Iowa to San Jose to be closer to his daughter as his mobility began to decline with stay in touch via text messages and phone calls, always focused on Iowa, athletics and your show. Mainly your show, we would always laugh on his favorite stories to share with several

years back when he met you down in Arizona at the Super Bowl. PTI was on site and he showed up and got a picture with you. It completely made his day. Isn't that nice? That's very good.

So it's very, very nice. And we understand, and I'm not using the war, we all of us in this room, understand that this is a connection between people and it enables a friendship to grow up, rather spontaneously and rather easily.

I always say, everybody's always grateful for that.

“You meet people who listen to the show and you're really, you know, that's why I love”

those emails like from Sioux Hydele the other day. I'm listening. Yeah, I'm listening. That's good. That's good.

I have no ideas. No idea what's going on. All right, we will take a break. Who's first on the show? Brian Windhorst is the first and Ryan McGee is second on the show.

That's great. You're listening to the Tony Cornheiser show. This is T.R. Kingston. Have we played T.R. Kingston's music? I believe we have.

Yes. This is called Blessing. Some of the lyrics in it because he sent them to me are it's a blessing that you took reason and you try. That's nice.

It is nice. That's very, very nice. T.R. Kingston. Again, we welcome. We'll get to this later in the show, but we welcome submissions of independent music.

And the reason we welcome it is because we have to pay money for stuff you recognize. We don't have to pay money for this and it's good. Yes, very good. It's a win-win as the kids like to say. T.R. Kingston playing in Brian Windhorst, who is in California.

He's going to do the get-up show. It is right now 740 in the morning in the East, which makes it 440 in the morning in Los Angeles, where Brian's. When do you get up to do this and to do the, you're not up for this, you're up for the get-up show.

When do you do that? 345. 345. It's great. Yeah.

When are you going to sleep?

“Are you watching the games like Last Night did you watch the games?”

I actually was at the clipper game for a little while. It played the timbre walls. Yeah. Yeah. I prefer when I don't have to go to the Laker clipper games because I can more focus

on watching, but you know, that's where the people who have all the information are. So, you know, he kind of got to go to those games, but listen, this is not every day. I don't do this every day of the year, but you know, a handful of days and months. Here we are. So, I'm going to just go off script, I have questions I want to ask you, but mentioning

I noticed on the early Sports Center that the Lakers lost last night.

The Lakers had 60,000 points, LeBron didn't have that many, but it's not, it doesn't seem to be working. And just an idle chit chat conversation, like Wilbon hates Luka Donchich. Goes on hard of his way to say he was fat, goes, because he's a friend of Niko Harrison who made the stupidest trade in the history of the NBA and should have been fired on

the spot and the trade should have been rescinded. But Wilbon wants to defend his boy Niko, so he finds reasons to hate Luka Donchich. Having said that doesn't seem to be working to any appreciable standard. And I'm wondering this, Brian, when does it get around that somebody says, well, maybe JJ Reddick is part of the reason here.

He's not an experienced coach, maybe he doesn't know what he's doing. No, I mean, I'm sure that JJ, even if he was on this call, would tell you that maybe he has better days than others, but the roster is flawed. It's not set up to maximize Luka. And you know, you could say, well, if you're a truly great player, shouldn't it not matter?

And yes, that's fairly true. Yeah, I think you know, in the teens between 2010 and in 20, you probably could have put almost any four players on the team and the Brown was so great. Yes, he probably could have gotten his team. If not to the finals, pretty close.

Luka is not the typical player. He is a breathtaking offensive player, but he has warts.

“And so to maximize him, you have to have a certain roster around him.”

And this is not like some breaking assessment. This is what happened with the Mavericks. It took the Mavericks like five or six years to figure out what the team they need to have around him. And they did.

They reached the finals. I mean, I reached the finals because Luka was playing great, but they had a roster around him. And so in some ways, the Lakers job had been kind of done for them. They were given, you know, you got Luka, okay, now you need to have, you know,

guys who can shoot trees and defend, and you need to have a big man who can defend the basket because Luka is going to get beat on the outside. That's how they lost the game last night. I mean, they really lost the game because they gave up, you know, Phoenix has been a terror.

They're over the last 10 games. Phoenix was 30 if and offense, dead last. And they scored 113 on the Lakers yesterday.

“That's why they lost, the play, the game that they lost, the isolated Luka.”

And they beat them off the dribble and the whole Laker's defense collapsed. And then they swank swung the ball around and they got a three in one. But you got to have a basket defender to take care of Luka. And they don't have that. You know, they tried to trade for one and they didn't get it done.

And so I think they've all along kind of set the expectation that next year is going to be the year where they sort of build their roster around him. And you know, maybe next year they will, but you know, basically the way this team is designed is to be so awesome on offense that they don't have to worry about their defense because they've got these awesome, awesome offensive players, Reeves, LeBron and Luka.

And the truth is, even though we don't have 200 games to base it on, they haven't been

very good together. And so frankly, I'm sort of in different, it's not a very good team. They win some clutch games and lose some clutch games. But they were, and they honest with you, like this roster build, when they know what the formula around Luka is, it's kind of an unserious build.

And it's kind of like, you know, we're going to, you know, we're going to, we're going to do better next year.

“I think that was the way they looked at it, you know, months ago.”

Wilbond just says he wouldn't pay Luka any money. He wouldn't have him on his team. They already paid him every Tony. He's just threatened. He's insane.

Wilbond's insane. Okay. And let me get to another Wilbond point. John believes as apparently does Jay Williams believe the tanking is nothing. It's not a big deal.

It only affects a small handful of teams and it's nothing and it's nothing compared to load management. This strikes me again as insane. To me, tanking attacks the reason you're out there, you allow the Washington wizards to just trade for people who cannot play, you know, they're physically unable to play and

lose game after game after game to get God knows what as a result of it. And they're not the only team you does a 10 teams doing this.

It's a third of the league trying to tank.

I think this is terrible. What do you think? Okay. So the difference between tanking today, the modern tank and the historic tank is that teams use the tank like in the back half of March and April.

And, you know, it was like, okay, we're not good enough. It's last 10 or 15 games, like three, four years ago, the Mavericks actually tanked out of the plane. They didn't even want to make the plane and it got them directly lively.

And they got, they got, they got fine, like $500,000, do you know why they got that fine? No? They tanked for two games. No.

Not for three years. Not for three years. Like the wizards. Not three years. So what's happening now is you are seeing tanking happen, yes, from multiple years, but

also for the whole season or, you know, two, three years. You, too. That's where the rule of the kindness.

“So, I mean, are they going to do anything about it?”

Is that himself a really care about it? Yeah. They're going to do something about it. But I think I told you last time we talked.

So the first anti-tanking measure was the lottery.

That was from 1983. So you couldn't just finish last and automatically get the first pick if there was somebody you specifically wanted. Right. That's right.

And by the way, like there is a reason why they're tanking, like, you know, you look at the spurs right now. And some women, you know. Oh, yeah. That's a product of tanking.

They tanked three years in a row, and the difference between the spurs and the wizards and all honesty is that the spurs got super lucky and the wizards have gotten super unlucky. I mean, I guess, you know, they got saw number two, but that year, you know, if, you know, like, if you look at that draft, exactly Risha Shea was the number one pick in that draft.

“The year before was when the young of the year after and was coup of flag.”

Yeah. Yeah, that was the year the wizards got quote unquote lucky. Yeah. Like last year, the difference between the fourth pick was conconniple and the sixth pick is conconniple and trade Johnson.

Now, trade Johnson may end up being a fine player. The conconniple last night set the all-time record for rookie three points shooting in his 59th game. Yeah. Yeah, he's pretty good.

And so, like, they're doing a correct thing, the difference between the wizards and the spurs. Like, you would say, oh, my God, the spurs are brilliantly run, what an ingenious franchise. They got lucky. No.

By the way, the team that won the championship last year, the thunder, they'd tank. They'd tank. Yeah. The thing that they got lucky with was that they, the shave, guilty sales, and their trade led them to an MVP, they didn't know they had an MVP.

They just got lucky on that, and, you know, but, you know, they'd tank, the championship team tank. So, like, you look at the results, and these teams are benefiting from tanking. So, in fact, I would argue, like, you look at team like Milwaukee. Milwaukee is not tanking.

They elected to say, we're not gonna tank. They've won eight of their last 10 games, okay. They are in 11 place. They are going nowhere. And, maybe the karma gods will smile on them, and, when they, if they miss the playoffs,

that they will get jumped up in this lottery. But, the bucks I'm afraid are headed for getting the 7th or 8th seed, because they try to keep playing. Well, the rest of the teams are on them tanking. By the way, the reason they won 8 out of 10 is because the teams that are playing around

them are tanking. Yeah, okay. And, they're going to get to Janice, like, Janice, our dream for the future is building around this 15th pick that we have. Well, you're going to be signed, right?

When, like, the real pathway for them forward was, once Janice got hurt this last time, was to probably tank and try to get a top 5 or 6 pick, and so that they could get a player that they could actually build around. So, like, like, you look at the bucks, if you're a bucks and you, like, oh, man, you know, we haven't given up on the season.

This is great. But it's strategically. I'm not saying ethically, strategically, it's the wrong play.

And that's where the problem that the league has to address is, where the answer is strategically,

you should be losing. You don't want to do that as a league. That's a bad place. Yeah, that's my feeling. So, by the way, did, did Atlanta have some sort of celebration last night of a strip club of

a strip club? No, they announced the celebration. It's not for a couple weeks, so you can still get there.

“Is this something that an NBA team and a league should say, this is a good idea, a strip club?”

Really? It's an iconic institution. Actually, one of their owners, Jamie Gertz, who's an actor, she's gone on. I think she's, don't hold me at this exact sentence. But I think she founded Spanx and become a billionaire.

Yes, that's accurate. Okay. She funded a documentary on the Magic City strip club, and how it's an institution. And so, this is like an organizational support system. This is also the organization that brought you swipe right night.

I can't remember which partnership was with which app, but a few years ago, they basically they were like, come swipe right and come to a, to a, to a, to a Hawk's game.

And by the way, always last time you talked about the Hawk's game on your programming

on your platform's Tony, and that kind of accomplishing what they're looking for there.

So I believe it's March 16th against the magic. How about that? Oh, magic. And there's no reason why he could drive down there. Right, Nigel.

I mean, just, it seems to me that the bus, you know, there are documentaries on a lot of things that you don't necessarily celebrate with the league saying this is a good idea. Like is, does Adam silver even know about this? Does he know about this? Well, I'm sure Adam knows about it now, you know about it yesterday, no, but again, you're

proving that the marketing is working. They've reached, you know, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure there's certain, there's men of a certain

“age with disposable income who may now pay more attention to it, and I think that's what”

they're looking for. Okay. All right. I know you have to go. I'll get you out of here.

I'm just curious. Do you find it something to take seriously that, indeed, Jason Tatum will come back this year, maybe, for the playoffs, and be a good player again? So here's the complicated. So my answer to that question is, I don't know, and I get asked about it every day.

I'm going to get asked about it all day long today. Yeah.

Well, let me be the first.

Let me get you ready. Once again, you're on top of the game. Yeah. And obviously, he's trying to do that. He's very, you know, he's got a multi-part documentary out about his recovery.

His own strip. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't have a documentary about what we'll see you in the fall. Right.

“I think his intention to play two things.”

Earlier this week, the Johnson Murray came back to the New Orleans Pelicans and played after an Achilles tear. He was 13 months. This is 10. This is 10.

It's not even 10. He's not even 10 yet. Okay. And by the way, the Pelicans are not tanking. You may think, look, they just--

No, they just stay. They just stay. That's right. And so like, well, it wasn't like it there to stay told, the Johnson will see it next year.

No, he's trying to get back. Right. They're not giving up on the season. And so I'm saying, and by the way, you can say, look, look, if the guy tear is a kill is when he's 34, but the Johnson hit Murray's in his mid 20s, he's about the same

age as Tatum. Yeah. But I'm not trying to say like that I'm an orthopedic surgeon and I can identify the different, you know, not every Achilles tear I'm sure is created equal. But the point is, it took him 13 months.

But the reason that this is--the second part of the point here, and the reason why this is so fascinating is that the Eastern Conference is an absolute wide open, no idea of race. Sure. And if Tatum comes back, the Celtics are basically, in my view, the favorites.

Agreed. Agreed. And people are like, oh, toothy, is there pressure for him to come back? Is there pressure Brian? Is there pressure?

And I'm like, well, he's a champion, he's got a $300 million contract, he's, you

know, he's made first team all in BA, like, he doesn't know. There's not pressure, like, it's all like the Celtics are coming in every day and staring in the eye and going this today, the day, Jason is today, the day, you know, but, of course, there's not pressure. But, you know, it's fine, but Jason can see the ease like everybody else, the Celtics

can see the ease. If the Celtics were in 12th place, we wouldn't be talking about this, the Celtics are in seconds. Yeah. And that's why it's complicated.

In a lot of ways for Jason, I kind of wish they were in 12th, because then this wouldn't be something you'd have to worry about. Now, you know, whether they say it or not, he's got too eyes. He understands that if he comes back, it could be--there was between the Celtics making the finals or not.

“So, that's why it's complicated and they're not going to try not to put pressure on”

him. But, you know, it is what it is. It'll be self-imposed more than anything else, he'll want to go back, he's got a championship ring, he'll want to get back. I didn't enjoy the get-up show, it's two hours long.

Don't fall asleep. I have a great idea that we're talking about you, we're about being at the day for that. I'm fine right now. Okay, all right. Thank you, Brian.

All right. Take care, Tony. Brian went to us. We will take a break. Ryan McGee will join us when we return.

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“I was so happy yesterday that I got Bamboo Genesis into the lead to the college basketball”

St. John's thing that the Bamboo Genesis dropped on Rick Petino, and number 15 St. John's. Anyway, Dan Burn plays in Ryan McGee and made me so happy to do that to say Bamboo Genesis on television. Give me something like that, where you're doing some larger piece or whatever, and it

pleases you tremendously to get in some phrase that you think is yours and nobody else's.

Oh, yeah, in first of all, I will have that song in my head for the rest of my life.

What in the hell was that? That was amazing. Yeah, Stan Burn. He likes on first all the time, it's brilliant. Well, I tell you, so if you, if you ever listening to NASCAR on the radio, like on a

Sunday, the motor racing network, MRM, I've been around forever, founded by Ken Squire, 170. Yeah. But they have a game they play and just prior to the race, someone will throw out some random word.

They found from some 7,000 page to Thoris, and the goal is everyone has to work that word into the broadcast. It's great.

And so you're like, why are they all talking about an amalgam in the water, and it's

really, you know, a little bit stuff, but it's, yeah, I learned a lot of my fancy words from MRM right here. I really like that. I like that. I just was so thrilled to get bombogenesis in the PDI show, it just made me so happy.

I love, we don't do a lot of NASCAR, but some stuff has popped up on my radar because of people that I know, I know Joe Gibbs. I covered Joe Gibbs in the other life when he won three superballs that's coach in Washington. I know Michael Jordan, I know these people. Michael Jordan was in a lawsuit if I'm not mistaken against NASCAR.

How is that?

“And now he just won the Daytona, and I think he may have won another race as well.”

What is, is there fallout? Is everything good? Do they love Michael Jordan? You know, it's really interesting because they did not love him, you know, just a few months ago.

And it was an interesting spot for NASCAR because I've been doing, I've been covering NASCAR 31 years, right? And so I, there have been so many times where I've attended press conferences where celebrities from Hollywood or recording artists or sticking ball athletes are going to own a NASCAR thing.

He's talking, Brett Farve, you know, the Wands Brothers, I mean, it's a long list. I mean, Dr. Jay and Joe watched it had a team for a while, and even when they would make it work for Eggman and Roger Staubach, they wouldn't make it work, he would only

last a couple years and you'd never seen them.

They'd come to Daytona and then you wouldn't see him at Martensville or Pocano or Dover or whatever during the year. Michael's there all the time and he's really, really, really involved goes to the teen meetings on Mondays. And he's, he's there, he's been both races this year and they won both of them and NASCAR

was in a weird spot because of course you want to promote that Michael Jordan is not only an owner, but he's really involved and he's got some really good race car drivers, but now while he's suing you for an effort. Yes. Yes.

And so now it was weird because it was so NASCAR that the first race won after the super contentious, it got really personal this lawsuit and it was settled out of court.

“It was a win for Michael Jordan, but it was started out of court, but the best thing”

that could happen as weird as it was was that they won the Daytona 500 because I was in Victory Lane and Michael Jordan was there and he was hugging it out with the NASCAR executives. So everybody's okay, I was with the President of NASCAR on Monday at the Sports Business Journal convention in St. Louis and he's like we're good, you know, as awful as it was,

now we're all on the same page and you know, Michael's already a better NASCAR executives that he wasn't MBA executive. This does not surprise me. He grew up in North Carolina, like Brad Dority, his Ryan, his interest is genuine, right? It's, this is not because he's rich in famous and it's a toy, it's a genuine interest.

And it comes from his dad, you know, we all know the story about James and his father, but when he was a kid growing up in Wilmington, he and his dad and his uncle, they would go to races at Rock and Camp, my hometown, they'd go to Darlington, they'd go to Charlottom or Speedway and they would just sit in the chicken moon section and, you know, root for Richard Patti or whatever.

And so he grew up a real race fan.

forever.

Wow, he was playing. And, but he's, he's legit and Brad Dority, I get Brad, I'm Brad's

a friend of mine, Brad was a coworker of RGSP for years, Brad won the Daytona 5151 at the team owner and Brad forever, which is begging Michael to, to come and be a part of it, but part of Michael's reservation was that can start it like, you know, while I go be a part of that, right? Right.

And what's that went away? All of a sudden, Michael's all in and now he, he has a chance to win a championship. I need to ask this, it's been bothering me for, since the Daytona, when I, if I told it, told the story before, this was in the middle of Pebble Beach, and we're waiting and waiting endlessly for Jacob Bridgeman to get a ruling with his feet and the Pacific ocean

and the ball in the sand and the rocks. It's like took an hour, so I flipped over to the Daytona. I got very lucky. There's three laps left, you know, that's all I want to see.

And then on the last lap, you're there, so you can vouch for this.

There's two crashes, right near the lead, two crashes. They affect the order of the race and they don't drop the yellow flag. Is that? Obviously, that's a conscious decision to let the race go on.

“Is this new, is this the new world order in NASCAR?”

Well, so a Daytona, the nature of the racing, which is, you know, if you've seen days at the thunder, you're a ROP rubber to ball, there's a great explanation of how that racing works. They're all very, they're aerodynamically tied together. You can't make a move unless you have help, unless you have some car, a line of cars

behind you to push you through the air. And so the nature of that plus, the cars that we have now, they are truly suckers, like these cars are nearly identical. And then, the talent level right now is off the chart from the top of the garage to the bottom.

And so it's parity. And so the way the Daytona 500 has been for more than a decade now is, you just hold your breath and you try to be in a position with the last couple of laps to go. Now, about to caution, it's all about where the crash is. So what you saw was there was only one lap to go.

And the crash happened behind where the leaders were. And so race control, which are the guy sitting in the room and they're watching everything, what they determined was was that there was no risk of them having to drive through that crash again at full speed. So it was behind them, they would have taken the checker flag and they would have slowed down

by the time they got back around to it. So it's all about, it's really all about the positioning of where the crash is. And then also, you know, my dad was a cost full ball referee. There were certain penalties you called in the fourth quarter that you didn't call in the second quarter or vice versa.

So sometimes, when two laps to go, you know, you never credit danger situation, but

you probably might be a little slower to throw the caution than you were, you know, 10 laps in the race. I have to tell you it was thrilling. I thought it was close to the lead than you did and there were people spinning around, you know, two cars back and they said, keep going, I just thought that was great.

“Is it maybe that's the de facto new rule and a race like that?”

Yeah, and it's just how they're built, but yeah, but it's all about, and they used to do what we call racing back to the line. And so no matter where the crash was, if the caution came out, you raced until you got all the way back around to the start, finish line. And then I was at a racing in Hampshire Motor Speedway 20 years ago and I thought Delgere

was going to die, because Delgere was literally sitting in the middle of front stretch and the field was racing back around to the start, finish line and they had to avoid him. And that's when we went, okay, that's, that's, this is probably, I'm safe. But yeah, but it's, it's a ball of strike call, but that, but that's, you know, you're right, I mean, Bill Elliott's on Chase who's still not one that dates on a 500 and

he's won a championship. He was going to win the race and he got wrecked with a lap to go and, and low and behold, Michael Jordan was in victory line. Yes. Yes.

Okay. The Joe Gibbs lawsuit. What is that? What is that? So, it's interesting because these things have happened before, but now we're, we're, we, I've

got, it's funny. I went to the Media Center, Daytona, and I saw all my friends and associated press and the athletic and, and I'm like, man, great job covering that trial. And they're all like, we kind of miss it, like it was, it was, it was something different for, for the NASCAR meeting to cover this big trial.

Well, now they got another one.

“And I think they're really excited to cover the trial, but the deal is, you have essentially”

the general manager of the racing, like the man, Chris Kervard, the man who really was running the day-to-day operations at Joe Gibbs racing left and went to another racing. And Joe Gibbs' group, now, he's arguing that he took all the secrets with him. Yeah. He took the playbook.

You know, it's no different than a coach. It's no different than LinkedIn, you know, leaving and going to another program and trying to get all of his coaches staff and players and, and all that to go with him.

And we, we see this a lot in front of the one, you know, you'll have a Prince, a team principal

who's been at a, say, let's say a Ferrari for years and won a lot of races and all of a sudden he announces he's going to McLaren or he's going to Mercedes or whatever. And then suddenly those cars start looking all like the cars where he was.

“But, you know, that's, that's why you hired him.”

So that's what's going on. Let's try that you, you ask him to bring intellectual property with him. Of course you do. You hire him. And, but, but the question is, how long, how long an advanced did you know you were going

to take that job and were you siphoned it off, because in years past, a lot of times we have silly season and a driver will announce, okay, I'm going to leave Joe Gibson and I'm going to enter motor sports a year from now. And they used to just let him stick around and adventure they're like, okay, you got to go. You got to go down.

Yeah, at least you can't sit in the meetings.

Yeah. So that's, that's where that's coming from. And, you know, and yeah, all my friends, you suddenly think they're court reporters. Good. They're really excited about this.

Good. I appreciate that.

“I want to just lean on you, a couple of college football things, so it one is just sort”

of general. What are you thoughts on these college athletes attempting to continue in college till they're in their mid 40s? I mean, collecting NOL money is there. What is this?

Yeah, I just, I still, my feeling is like where some guys still plan for a six to seven

year and they've had these devastating injuries or you know, we still have a small handful of code players left. Everybody on every pass for 2020 and, and I get that, but what I don't get, and if you get your own campus and you're still on campus, I don't necessarily like it, but I kind of get it.

There's a direct line there. Don't like it is when you left and you're going to dump something else. And, you know, if, if Jim Thorpe got his Olympic medals taken away, because he played a little bit of baseball. Yeah.

You started North Carolina. Then, you know, we're going to let these guys play professional sports and then come back. Once you've left college, you've left college and, you know, if I decide I want to go back to grad school, you know, I have no eligibility, right?

That's just how that works. And so I, that, that, that, that part draws me crazy. The thing that Alabama was insanity and what I don't like is, and this is why something like the NCAA, whether it's that Tyler or not has to exist, there has to be a bad guy. There has to be, you know, someone that, Roger Gdell knows what his job is.

His job is to get food, right? He can live with that. And so there needs to be some entity like that where you can, you can point to them and go,

“you, you, you have to make these guys only stick around for so many years.”

There's got to be some sort of rules and there has to be a bad guy, but I just, I just, I just, that drives me bonkers like I just leaving college and being coming back and that's why you never left. It's like the guy at your high school, who's the captain of the state championship team. He's still hanging out in the parking lot six years later.

Get the hell out of here. We're, we're, we're, we're trying to work out to be in college. And on that note, thank you Ryan. This is just, it's a great joy for me when you come on the show. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Colonel has a friend again. It's really good. We'll take a break, we'll come back with a more on Jingle, I'm Tony Cornhageau. You're listening to the Tony Cornhageau show.

That grows into all Lindsey Merrill, right? Pleasant. Very nice. You want to do the Bethesda Bagel Air Force? Yes, Bethesda Bagels.

We love them. You with as well. Just go to BethesdaBegels.com for the location in the DC area near the student pop one in. And you'll be thrilled. Before we get to the mail bag, let me just say I'm going to quote some lyrics here.

By one of the great geniuses ever of modern-day music, Paul Simon. And these lyrics, all of his lyrics are fabulous. These are particularly fabulous. From the boxer, I'm just a poor boy though my story is seldom told I've squanded my resistance. For a pocket full of mumbles, such a promises.

All lies in jest, still the man here is what he wants to hear in disregard the rest. Just totally brilliant. Thanks to our guest today, Brian Windhorst, Ryan McGee, thanks as well to today's sponsors. Remember, you can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all the seeps, get

Please leave us a review. From our friend Harry Hawkex, dear Dr. Tony, love that Nigel closed Monday's show with the herbrook speech. Took me right back to the night, you and Wilbon convince me to jeopardize my Columbia employment by delivering that same speech, doing a full-on impression of Bob Dolan, hyping up the

A team at Dolan's own first-teacherity event, a real career strategy master class by me.

Nevertheless, it's still one of my core memories, and yes, Bob reminds me of it every single time I see him. If you're a Michael W. on the video, I'm happy to send it. It'll absolutely crush with 15 people who get the joke. You should do it.

Oh, Cheryl, it glint said to you. Yeah. John and herndon, the capital weather gang was pulling your leg with Bumble Genesis. It's the new model from the Hyundai luxury line.

“I believe if you watched the golf tournament this weekend, it was the car they were giving”

away for a hole in one of the Genesis invitation. I grew up in Rhode Island, and was there during the storm in 1978, and had the previous record for Snowfall, during a storm which was probably about 30 inches with snow drips up to the second floor of our house. Back in the old days, we called it a blizzard.

Um, Bumble, when you shouted Bumble in Wednesday's party, you knocked me out of my chair. You see that's my name. Well, not really. It's actually a nickname I received from my softball buddies from Northwestern back in the 70s.

Bumble Rivera was playing in the MLB, and his last name is similar to mine.

So I became Bumble, fast forward 40 years in my daughter was having our first grandchild.

Would I be called grandpa, papa, or pops, heck, no, I am Bumble. This was emphasized by my four year old granddaughter, Elsie recently. We're at the playground, and she said, watch this Bumble. The girl next to her said, why do you call him Bumble? Elsie replied simply, because that's his name.

David Rivers. Bumble. Bumble. Bumble. Bumble.

Big hitter. Mark Lynch. Can be Indiana. Thank you for having Todd Harris on the show, and making him crystal clear what a Bumble Genesis 1440 with a little twist actually is.

Chris McKenzie, I listen. Is this the new game? That's funny. That's funny. Adam Lollie.

See Adam Washington. I don't have a gobb, but I listen. In fact, I'm probably listening as you read this.

PSI hate to see who I'll see when I'm always from Seattle.

A gobb. George Millet. This is probably too late for Friday's show. No, it's not. But our boy Kenny McPek has the prohibitive favorite entered in Sunday's rebel stakes at

Oakland and Arkansas. It's a Kentucky Derby prep race, Brian Hernandez, who wrote, "Road, mystic, damned victory in the 24 derby will be in the iron's board blackout time. Blackout time is 8 to 5 on the morning line, so we aren't going to make much money, but I'm going to put together some exotics.

There are other great horses in this grade to stake. I don't like any of them better than Kenny's feet and then there's a picture." You know, the George Millet. Can you see this? Yes.

From Chris Campbell, Mr. Tony, some very important news this weekend, it's not another snowstorm. 6pm sunset. Friday's sunset will be 559.59 p.m. on Saturday, we will break 6pm. Evening golf.

On the horizon. We made it. Okay. I got the grill cover. From Chuck and Rossi.

Chuck and Vaxi here and happy to update you on episode 200 Rick Devons, or is it Devons or Devons? I think it's Devons. And his survivor status. First off, it is on Wednesday evenings, not Tuesday, so Nigel will have to reset the board

to zero and that one. Rick's tribe didn't do so well as they were the losers of the first immunity challenge and had to go to tribal council where the first player from season 50 was voted off. Luckily Rick was not even on a hot seat as they say and he indeed did survive the first week.

After detail, then you would ever want to know on the LLP, which will drop this week and that's the podcast, right? I'm guessing. No need for one of us to be doing the official Rick Devons of Devons, of the email correspondent, of the T.K. show, but speaking of this, can Rocksy be the official radio

“city rockhead of the Tony cornhizer show and where does this leave poor Chuck?”

Any suggestions? Chuck and Rocksy. Of course, you can do this. Yes, of course. She's a rockhead.

She's a rockhead. It's such an accomplishment. I really, it's very cool. Really good, Tom Targenoski, Su city Iowa. I'm an extra ticket to the Arnold Schwarzenegger Sports Festival, you.

I've met on. You have. I've met on, yes. I've met on. Yeah.

From Jeff Pigut, in Western more in Iowa, the official golf club fitter of the Tony cornhizer show. During early season PGA events, my eyes are focused on new gear played by the pros. Lots of good stuff for you in 2026, but that's another email. What caught my eye during the West Coast swing was not gear, but a parrot.

It's Tommy Fleetwood. His Nike apparel contract really has to be expired. Now he appears to be shopping in the local pro shop each week, sporting the Pebble Beach and Riviera logos. He did also branch out to the Sunday Red Brand, likely on March to Genesis House Tiger

Woods.

“If this pattern continues, would you refer to it as a Booker McFarlane type situation?”

Also wishing success to all Des Moines area players in Monday's seminal pro member. Is that next this coming week? That's the Monday after the Palm Beach tournament. That's one of the greatest collections of golfers in the world. It really is.

They're playing at PGA Nation on this week. They call it, they say it's the cognizant at the beginning of the year. Yeah.

No, it hasn't.

“Not as the cognizant, it's been a tournament.”

Yeah, the Honda was there from a million years.

It's the issue with signature events. Steven Good, Fayette Philarkin, so what a pleasant surprise it was to listen to Wednesday's show and hear rat boys as the guest play in music. I was already excited to see him at George's majestic lounge in Fayette Philarkin, so on March 26.

Now I find the lead singers a little as well. In the spirit of little helping little, I have some local recommendations for the ban when they get to town. Avoid college avenue on the way to town, ongoing construction causes daily backups. Farrals taste of tie, you goes impure it and they're go to restaurants and cafes close

to the venue. Fossil cove and crisis brewing are great breweries in town, recommended warding holes close to the venue include Kingfish, Bruce Kees and Maxine's, block street records as the go-to record store in town is 10-minute walk for the venue and if time allows, there are quick scenic hikes around Lake Fayette Phil in a devil's den state park.

Anyway, I will have on my chattershirt for the show on the 26th of the ban is looking for someone to whom they can give the TK salute. That's lovely. From Mike Limerick, an Indianapolis. I'm writing from a lengthy line at the Poppelli sandwich shop in downtown Indianapolis.

As I walked in the store, two men and raiders gear were in front of me.

“I presume to grab a quick lunch and head back to the convoy.”

Just now, two more have walked in and out and cut the line to join their colleagues. I'm pretty sure taking shortcuts is how you wind up with the number one picker. What do I know? Mark Hughes and Eshton Marilyn, dear skipper. While in Slovenia last year, I visited the country's Olympic ski jump center.

The tallest jump they train on is the second highest jump in the world.

To my delight during the off season, you can take a zip line from the top of the highest jump and it simulates the pay at the ski jumper would take. Of course we did this. You are correct that the skiers are a little more than 15 feet off the ground after jumping.

However, when you stand at the top of the jump and you look down, it is terrifying, even when locked into a zip line. I was thrilled to see Domen Previch of Slovenia win the gold and the individual men's jump and the Slovenian team win the mixed team competition. Maybe not a David Aldrich moment, but at least I can say I experienced a small bit of what

these athletes experience in training. From Roblo, not that Roblo in North where I'll do Ohio, I'll captain my captain. There is something wonderful about the fact that you are discussing parking chairs in the opening segment of a sports podcast, well in a lead sports podcast. That being said, with all of your bigs that have connections to Pittsburgh, I am shocked

shocked that you did not know about the noble and glorious tradition of the parking chair. I did not.

Throughout all of Pittsburgh, people will mark their personal concrete street territory

with folding chairs. Those chairs are considered sacred and no one will move them or park in that space. Will people get angry? Absolutely not. We know the rule.

The territory before you, you tip your cap and you move on. Yes, you may have to walk to get from your car to home, but that is the way you accept the rule of the street. This is now beginning to happen in the DMV, your society has evolved and, frankly, for the better.

Embrace it, good doctor. You will see the world will get better. I don't know. From Scotty Baker, the unofficial Egyptian archaeologist of the Tony Corners show in Barry and Springs, Michigan.

Every day I'm at the Temple in Karnak, reading. It says, "I'm listening. Today I'm at the Temple in Karnak, reading and recording high reglifts. You are in my ear, bringing joy to my day. Of course, when I'm statesaw, you are too, but the Egypt thing is so much cooler to mention."

Yes. In Karnak, listen to the show. That's nice. I went to high school and college with a person in Jimmy Romano who is no longer with us. He was an Egyptologist.

Oh, really? Yes. There was a very, very great teacher at being a kind of harbour college at harbour college. Gerald Ketish, and he was degrade in all sorts of archaeological and Egyptology things. Jimmy became an Egyptologist because of that.

And ran the Egyptology Department of the Brooklyn Museum of Art. Wow. For a while. This nickname, Indy. It was not Indy Jones.

Dr. Jones. It was not that. Okay. In the postal system, law and order postal office unit.

“In the postal system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups.”

The male carriers who delivered letters and the detectives who find out where the hell you're male actually went. These are their stories. Well, actually, it's only Tony's stories about the decline of America do. Not to the economy of foreign policy, nor politics of immigration, but lost male.

Yes. Yes. There's one on law and order, season one episode, forward, turn to sender. In one episode, Tony's bills are not getting to the collectors. Only to find out it wasn't a thief, but a son Michael trying to get him set up with

online bill pay. He needed the checks. Get his routing number, bank account. In another episode, a little Robin Hood of sorts thatverted the male from Tony when he thought walking the male into the postal office was the way to go.

A fake male drop was set up to intercept the male and stop the money from leaving Tony's account to help him pay for the breakfast value meal at McDonald's, affin for his grandkids, well, at least now it's for them, and oil at his Rehobe of House, little-seping pigs. So I had this talk with Al Seraphino last night. What did he say?

He said, I pay everything online. You've got to start paying online. He said, get Michael to do this for you. I said, I was going to go to the bank. He looked at me.

So they could help you, right?

Yeah, Michael to help you?

Yeah.

“I said, you have to climb the steps into the new world.”

Yeah. I said, I don't like the new world. No, no, pretty soon you'll have to make it in D times. I can't do that. Yeah.

I have to call the pro-shop.

It's this Tony corn high school. I can't do it. I said, don't worry. Wait, touch. Aaron in Milwaukee catching up on Monday's show.

“Does this sum up calls the will bond or does this sum up calls the will bond, Tony?”

We are surprised that the gold medal hockey game ended the way it did with a meteor hitting the arena and causing a global mass extinction event. We'll bond. Not necessarily.

We have to get by the time everyone is always.

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