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The three headlines from the President's speech last night, at least in the s...

R, no ground troops, didn't mention ground troops.

Yes, we are getting out in some number of weeks by the end of April, and there's not

to be regime change. Regime change, as he said explicitly, is not our goal. So are those true? Well, of course, you can't tell, you can't know at this point, as Trump himself said. This has been a very short engagement relative to, say, the first or second World War

Vietnam, but all of those wars began with similar promises. This won't last long, backed by fall, all the kind of famous slogans that we chuckle about Iranically decades later, they had no idea what they were getting into, and that is true again for every conflict. The second people started dying, you really don't know where it's going to end.

And that goes for this conflict too, and all kinds of things could happen between right now and resolution, and some of them are awful.

And they're also, by the way, signs that there is, as there are always is, quite a distance

between what politicians tell us and what they're actually planning to do, or what they may do. So, for example, in the question of ground troops, the president didn't mention them last night, but they are apparently on the way. So American troops are on the way to the Persian Gulf, including portions of the Nevada

National Guard for some reason. So either that's a statement of intent. Demonstration does plan to put boots on the ground, or it's an option they want to keep open. But either way, that very much could happen, particularly if the U.S. decides we need actual

regime change. We need to subdue the country completely, change its leadership, demand, unconditional surrender. None of those things can be achieved. It's pretty much believed by air power alone.

That could happen, and it could accelerate in other ways, too, probably, too horrible, even to think about, including the use of non-conventional weapons, nuclear weapons, of some kind,

and the effects of that would be what we don't know, because those weapons have never been

used. The kind of nuclear weapons that modern nations possess are not even that closely related to the only ones that have ever been used 80 years ago in Japan. So what would happen next, again, we can only guess, but it would be awful. So those questions were partly answered last night, but they're not really the right questions

that we should be asking, because this is not just a war on Iran, it is, well, really, it's a pivot in history, but we're watching is a change of power globally. And so the questions we really should be thinking about, and that we're going to get the answer to fairly soon, would include, who runs the world, who's in charge of the world,

where the real power centers, what is the nature of power?

What does it mean to have power? How do you know if a country's powerful, where does our power derive? Why is the United States a power exactly? And finally, what is the United States? Who are we?

How do we understand ourselves? What do we stand for? What's our national character? Is there one? What are we defending when we go to war?

So those are the questions that we want to ask or not, and they're almost never discussed

in public for some reason, that we're going to get the answers to very soon, because conflict forces an answer to these questions, and this conflict in particular, this is a world war, which is to say, the world, every nation, the world, while not obviously directly engaged in it, has a stake in the outcome, in the future of every country will be determined in part by what happens in Iran.

So dancer or try to answer the first question, who controls the world, well, how do you know?

Well, you know, because in terms of this specific conflict, the nation that controls the world will be the one that opens the straight of our moves. Now what is the straight of our moves? Well, it's the choke point at the eastern end of the Persian Gulf, which is the source of fifth of the world's energy, probably 30% of the world's fertilizer, whole bunch of

other vital elements that the world needs to run, that the global economy needs to operate,

You can't get any of those out of that region, except through that straight.

And it's about 100 miles long, it's 25 odd miles wide at its shortest width. It is basically the source of Iran's power. It turns out one of the things we've learned is that Iran is not a military power, the president, many other leaders, bragged about destroying its AV and its Air Force, and reducing its capacity to build missiles and ending its nuclear program.

And that's relevant, certainly tactically, it's relevant.

But long-term, its military, even its nuclear program, is not why Iran is powerful, Iran is

powerful because of its geography, and that's true for all countries.

Geography is the single most important fact of a country, where are you on the globe?

And what does that mean? And in Iran's case, its power is inherent, because it is on the other side, the northern side of the straight oformotes. So if you want the global economy to function, and it is globalized every country is connected to every other country by commerce, you have to be able to get through that straight

and Iran is in charge of that decision, which is to say, Iran can stop you from doing that. And for many decades now, Iran has threatened to do that.

This is not the first time we've had a debate over the straight oformotes, or it's been

in the news, because in every single conflict with Iran, open conflict, diplomatic conflict beginning with the hostage crisis in 1979, extending through the war between Iran and Iraq, in which we took sides, Iran has said, hey, we will close the straight. And American policymakers have understood that is ultimately why Iran is a nation that you

have to reckon with, that you have to take seriously, whether you like them or not.

Even if you hate them, maybe especially if you hate them. So Iran is not a military power, fundamentally, Iran is an economic power. And previous leaders have understood that, or currently there shouldn't really seem to understand that, or there is not said that in public.

But Iran's power derives from its fat, its ability to shut down or at least gravely damage

the global economy. So the only question that matters, long-term, is who reopens that straight. And it seems, obviously, at this point, to the United States, when into the conflict with the mistaken belief that it could, we could, somebody could reopen that straight by force.

It's hard to understand how anyone who thought about it for 10 minutes, five minutes, two minutes could have reached that conclusion. How do you open it by force? Well, you could just blow up Iran, you could end its regime, you could kill its Iatola,

you could take out its leadership, but does that open the straight?

Think about what it takes to close the straight. Not much. In fact, almost nothing, minds, the threat of minds, boats with explosives on them, drones. It's extremely easy to prevent commerce. It's very difficult to assure it.

It's asymmetrical. And so it's impossible to imagine how an outside power could keep the straight open. And without the consent, not just of the Iranian government, which you could destroy, conceivable, you could just nuke it, but without the consent of the people who live in Iran. Another way to put it is, game it out.

You blow up Iran, or you destroy any controlling authority within Iran, and Iran collapses. Does that open the straight? Well, of course not. It allows any armed group to control the straight, and then to collect taxes, levees, tolls for all shipping that goes through.

It allows pirates to take control of the straight. And that doesn't necessarily make commerce impossible, but it massively increases the cost. And it discourages normal flows of energy, because who's going to do that? Who's going to ensure a ship, when no government can protect it, or a shirts protection as it passes through the straights?

So again, even if you reduced Iran to the state of permanence of a war, ethnic conflict, even if you killed 90% of the people on Iran, or 99% or 100%, you would still be unable

To promise shipping companies and oil producers and oil buyers that they're o...

they're like a financial gas, or they're fertilizer, they're sulfur, or anything else they need from the Persian Gulf would actually be able to go through that straight into the Indian Ocean and out to the rest of the world. So that's not a solution. There's no military solution, that's not a peace-nick position, war is bad.

That's a practical observation that reflects reality. You cannot bomb your way to an open straight.

So if you're thinking about how to resolve this through war, you have to somehow use force

killing bombing to convince the Iranian government if the weak in it to the point where you convince them it's in their interest to keep the straight open. But you can't bomb to the point that collapse, because then there will be no controlling authority to keep it open. So you need a government, but the government has to like you, the government has to be weak

enough to agree to your demands, but strong enough to keep control over its territory, and that waterway. Pretty delicate operation, and at the end of it, you need consent. And this sort of explains what power really is, power is not the ability to destroy, destroying is easy killing is easy.

You can take life very simply, not hard at all, dumb people do it all the time, creating

life is impossible, no human being can do that, that's the difference between man and God,

man can destroy, but he cannot create. So in human terms, power is the ability not to create chaos or destruction, but to restore order, power is the ability to restore order.

The most powerful person, the most powerful force, is the one that restores conditions

to order, and you see that in your life, your kids get in a fight. That's easy, their kids, they can beat each other up, but who's in charge, well the parent restores order, dad comes home, knock it off, dad's in charge, we know that because he got the fighting to stop, and that's true of nations as well. The nation that restores order is the nation in charge, the nation that forces the peace

is the nation in charge, and in global terms, the country that forces order on the Persian Gulf that opens the straight of our moves is the nation that runs the world by definition.

So for decades, certainly since the Second World War, the rest of the world has assumed

that that country is the United States, and again and again, as noted, various Iranian leaders have threatened to close the straight and in every single case, the rest of the region has looked to the United States to make sure that doesn't happen, and the assumption that if there was ever a problem, the U.S. could fix it has remained up until February 28th when this war began, and that was the day that the rest of the world realized that the

United States was unable to restore order, and this was a shock, particularly for the six Gulf States, who, along with Iran and Iraq, are the energy producing states around the Persian Gulf, but those six states, the GCC, the Gulf monarchies, are closest allies

in the region, are most important allies in the world, had lived for many years with the

assumption that if there was ever a problem the United States could fix it and they found out in very short order that that was untrue, and they found out the hard way when ours after this war started, Iran started attacking them, and the United States, either wouldn't or couldn't stop that destruction, and the destruction is profound, profound. U.A.E. United Arab Emirates, location of Dubai and Abu Dhabi, two of the most famous cities

in the world, two of the nicest cities in the world, one of the richest countries in the world, has taken over 2,000 missiles and drone attacks in the past months, 2,000, both against energy infrastructure, economic targets, but also against hotels and downtown Dubai,

the airports, the busiest, most important airports in the region, maybe in the world,

Dubai and Abu Dhabi, the nicest airports in the world attacked, and the United States couldn't

Or wouldn't defend them, Qatar, same thing, Saudi to some extent, same thing.

Now, these are countries that partly in exchange for the defense guarantee they thought

they had, have been the largest, and especially in recent years, investors in the United States, so they're sovereign wealth funds, some of the biggest in the world, have poured trillions of foreign direct investment into the U.S., literally trillions of dollars. And the effects going forward are unknown, but it looks like, I mean, someone's going to have to rebuild these countries, and they're going to have to pay for it themselves, most likely.

And so it looks like some of that investment, maybe a lot of that investment, while either stop it, maybe some of it, under force, which will be pulled back, so it's a massive loss for them, it's a huge loss for the United States, but more than anything, it's a reshuffling of expectations and yes, of power. Now, all of those countries are focused single-mindedly on reopening the strike, because

that's the key to their economies, and of course, they live directly across the water

from Iran, and all of them have an interest in the United States doing that. And some of them are pushing the United States to do that, probably every bit as enthusiastically as these really government has to be totally honest. And you could understand that. It's not going to attack on them from their perspective, just make it stop, open the

straight, and there are a lot of practical reasons why that needs to happen. One of them is, oil and gas come out of the ground, and you have to put it somewhere. And if it's not going on ships, you have to put it in some sort of storage facility, and those are limited in size. And if you don't have a place to put the oil and gas, then you have to shut down the well.

And that's a big operation, and I can take a long time to restart it.

You basically shut down your entire economy.

So there's a clock ticking for these countries.

You've got to get the energy out of the region, under ships and out, and you need the revenue from selling it. So they want the United States to stop this immediately, and by stop it, it means open that straight, and their view is what you just crush the Iranian regime. It's understandable why they feel that way.

It's hard in practical terms to understand how you do that. You really can't. You need someone in Iran to agree to this. Someone who has the power to control the country. And for the Gulf States, and for a lot of countries around the world, that is a nightmare

scenario, because that leaves the Iranians in control. So you go to all the trouble to have this war, and you have some version of the same regime still in charge. And from the perspective of our allies in the Middle East, that is the last thing they want, because these are enemies.

They're literally -- the Iranians are bombing their countries. They don't want Iran in charge when all of this is over. But last night, the President seemed to indicate, in fact, it didn't seem to continue to said Iran's going to be in charge at the end. He said that when he made the point that, well, the straight's going to reopen because

Iran's going to need the money from oil sales. That's another way of saying some kind of Iranian regime that we didn't choose is going to be in power when this is all over. So that statement alone is hugely significant for the rest of the world. The President of the United States just said, we're not going to be in charge of who runs

Iran when this war ends. But the most significant thing the President said was about the straight, and who opens it. And again, before we play this clip, keep in mind that the rest of the world, including

our adversaries, especially our allies, always assumed it would be the United States,

who, if it ever came to it, would reopen that critical waterway, that key to the globalized

economy, which it is, if there's any one geographic spot on the globe that's the key to

a global economy to an interconnected economy, it's the straight-of-form moves. Here's what the President said last night. The countries of the world that do receive oil through the hormone straight must take care of that passage. They must cherish it.

They must grab it and cherish it. They can do it easily. We will be helpful, but they should take the lead in protecting the oil that they so desperately depend on. So to those countries that can't get fuel, many of which refuse to get involved in the decapitation of Iran, we had to do it ourselves.

I have a suggestion.

Number one, bioel from the United States of America, we have plenty, we have so much.

And number two, build up some delayed courage.

We should have done it before, should have done it with us as we asked. Go to the straight and just take it, protect it, use it for yourselves. Iran has been essentially decimated. The hard part is done, so it should be easy. You want the straight open?

Do it yourselves. So what does this mean? Well, there are many levels on which you can analyze this.

The first is the literal.

So we have enough oil, we don't need the oil there. If you need the oil, you do it. Two inch, a lot of people have noted, well, actually oil is priced on the international market. And unless you shut down American oil exports and in some basic sense nationalize the oil

companies, control them, use the government to control who they can sell to, then what happens in the straight affects us here in gas prices and oil prices because we don't control those. So there's that. But bigger picture, what the president is saying is, we can't open the straight.

And if it's so important to you, because we could nationalize the oil companies actually,

if it's so important to you, you do it.

So who's he talking to, exactly? Well, this administration and previous administrations have expressed increasing accelerating hostility toward Europe. And of course, Europe is who they may be talking to. They seem to be talking to Europe needs Catarelle and G, which they definitely do.

Since the United States blew up their pipeline from Russia, they're ever more dependent on Gulf oil and particularly Gulf gas, natural gas. And so you're up you do it. And we asked our European allies to get in at the very beginning. And we're going to leave NATO because they're not backing us up and Iran.

It's not really a real conversation. Our European allies don't really have militaries, and they don't have militaries because their countries have been occupied to wonder near another by the US military since 1945,

at the end of the Second World War.

So they've had not just a defense guarantee through NATO, they've had an actual physical defense against whom Russia for a lot of the time. And so they don't have the capacity to open the straight by force. And of course, no one really does have that capacity. There's no force that can open the straight, only consent.

But even if you believe there were some military answer to this, France and Great Britain in Germany are going to provide that answer Spain, Portugal, Belgium, it's absurd. It's absurd. Of course, Trump is not speaking to Europe. Nobody expects that Europe could, or is any interest in, sending troops to the Persian

Gulf to open the straight. So who's he speaking to? Well, practically speaking, there's really only one country on earth with the power, not necessarily the military power, but maybe the power to open the Gulf, to open the straight at the eastern end of the Gulf, let all that oil and gas out, and that of course is China.

China is who the president is speaking to. And by the way, the US president was supposed to be in China this month, April meeting with the Chinese president, Xi, and that's been delayed until next month. And we'll see if that actually happens. But at the center of the conversation, it'll be this question.

So how exactly would China open the straight of our moves? Well, probably not with aircraft carriers.

In fact, you have to wonder how many aircraft carriers will be built after this conflict,

because our aircraft carriers can't get very close to Iran because of the threat of drones and missiles to is it even useful to our aircraft carriers? In this moment, we'll have to assess that, doesn't seem it. But it's not its military that gives China the power to do this. It's its economic relationships, of course.

So China is the largest trading partner with every Gulf country and with Iran. In fact, China is one of the only countries that has any kind of meaningful relationship with Iran at this point, China and Russia, but particularly China.

China could conceivably bankrupt Iran if it wanted.

But China is also dependent on Gulf energy.

All of Asia is dependent on Gulf energy.

They need it. So Asia, for example, uses about half the world's electricity, also for manufacturing. Asia produces about 2% of the world's natural gas, which is in most places. The energy source used to make electricity. So Asia, while an economic power, of course, is woefully short of energy and a lot of that comes

from the Gulf. So China needs the Gulf once the Gulf, now China has very deep energy storage. They've saved a lot of oil in their own strategic petroleum reserve. But at a certain point, China's going to want to open that up. And Trump seems to be saying, that's inevitable, we don't need to worry about it.

The question, though, is when?

So from the Chinese perspective, what's the hurry?

China will be hurt economically by this closure if it continues, but so will the United States, but maybe more critically, so will American allies in Asia. So if you're China, you're very focused on the country's right around you that aren't fully under your control. Why wouldn't you be?

Every great power is concerned first and foremost about its region.

Can I control the country's right around me? And in China's case, you have Taiwan, you also have Japan, you have South Korea, and you have Philippines. So you've got four big countries that are not directly controlled by China, but their

in Asia, and they were all to one extent or another closely allied with the United States

and benefit from some kind of defense guarantee, mostly implied. And so if you weaken those countries, all of whom are totally dependent on Middle Eastern energy, and you weaken the United States by refusing to come to its aid, the Gulf States closed energy prices in the United States, spike food prices, spike political unrest, deepens the U.S. gets weaker, more chaotic.

It hurts you, but it also sends a very clear message to all those other countries in Asia that you would like in your sphere of influence that, hey, the United States probably not going to come to a rescue if we have some kind of conflict with China, maybe we better come to terms with China. So this is not obvious to a lot of the geniuses who run our country because they think

in terms purely of military force. How big your army, how many nukes do you have? What's your navy look like? But from a Chinese perspective, which is longitudinal, tend to think in terms of like years, not just quarterly reporting periods, this is greatly to your advantage, greatly to your

advantage. Why would you want to stage a military invasion of say Taiwan, the one everything tank

and Washington is always telling us is coming any minute, when you could just send a really

clear message to the Taiwanese government that reunification with China is inevitable and let's do this the easy way, the non-Messie way. Let's do here what we did in Hong Kong. Let's just bring all the provinces home, well, that having to kill anybody. And by the way, you have no choice because the country you thought was going to protect

you clearly isn't, can't even protect Qatar, can't protect downtown Dubai, is it really going to protect you? Does the US have the physical ability to project power in the South China Sea? When it can't even keep the drug cartels in Tijuana under control, probably not, so stop with the pretence and let's come to terms favorable to us. Well, of course, China thinks that way. And of course, that's in their interest.

Don't these dumb fantasies about a showdown in East Asia between the US and China? There are nobody's interest, but only China seems to understand that. So if you're China, maybe you don't come to the rescue right away, maybe you let the pain continue for a while, just to make it really clear, who's in charge? And once again, you'll know who's in charge

By who settles the conflict, the person or nation that restores order is dad.

who's in charge. That's the head of household. That's the head of the world. So that's

what's it's take? Who runs the world? Now is this good or bad from an American perspective?

Well, that's a more complicated question. Short term, of course, it's bad. There's a humiliation coming at some point. You hope it's not to profound. You hope it's not, you know, 10 times worse than the fall of Saigon in 1975, or there were a treat from Kabul just a few years ago. You hope not because it's disparating and people die, and that's just awful in every way. But at some point, it will become clear that the United States couldn't do the thing

that great powers do, which is keep commerce going. And so it doesn't mean the United States is not a great power. It just means that it's not as great as maybe some people imagine

it was. It's not as powerful as other leaders told us it was. In some cases, it's actually

thought it was. And what that really means is the unipolar moment is over. Now it's been over for a while, but in the minds of your average US senator from Nebraska, we're in charge of everything and everyone will just battle our terms. And that's not true. Hasn't been true for at least 15 years. Definitely not true now, and no one will be able to deny it. So that's going to be hard for some people to accept. It could be disputing to us as a nation,

but it reflects reality and it's not the end of American power or prosperity. You might in fact be the beginning of actual power and more durable prosperity, the kind rooted in resources and production, the kind that's not necessarily dependent on finance. So it doesn't need to be a disaster, but it's definitely going to be a global reshuffling. And it revolves around the question of resources. It revolves around what President Trump to his credit

understands, which is ultimately power derived from prosperity, rich countries are powerful,

rich countries get to build powerful militaries to express in an rare occasions exert their power. But wealth comes from resources and what are resources, resources are food, water, and energy. The three things necessary for life, for growth, for civilization, food, water, energy. Food by and large comes from energy, by the way, huge percentage of fertilizer comes from natural gas, but it takes energy to make food, of course. But it countries resources,

it's physical resources, the things it finds in the ground are essential to that country's prosperity. So physical reality matters, and that's harder and harder to keep in mind when our day-to-day realities are determined by things that are not reelectrical impulses, ones, and zeros, the digital world, but the digital world has limits. And those limits arrive at say lunchtime

when you're hungry. You can't eat Instagram. You have to eat food. And that's produced by

people grown in the ground, watered with water. So physical reality intrudes and Trump, because he is in the best way at his best a primitive person understands the primitive reality, which is we need these things. So if you look at the world that way, what are the rich countries? What are the rich hemispheres? Well, again, Asia has relatively speaking very little energy. A lot of highly productive countries, starting with Japan and China, are totally dependent on other countries for resources.

And of course, if you paid any attention to what happened in the last century, you know, Imperial Japan became Imperial because it didn't have enough resources. And that's why

went into China. And that's why it invaded a bunch of its neighbors. And that's how we went

up in a war with it. So this question doesn't go away. And if you look at the world through that lens, you see that we're in a pretty good spot, because the United States, as the President

never tires of saying, has deep resources. Land, water, and lots of energy. Now in this specific

Question of oil, it's a little bit more complicated than you have heard.

import quite a bit of oil. What we have is a massive abundance of natural gas, which 25 years

ago was considered kind of marginally significant now. It's understood to be, you know, a critical

resource from which all kinds of different products that you use every day and from the musuticals and has noted fertilizer and electricity all come. The United States has huge reserves of natural gas, but our region, North America, South America, the Caribbean, the Western Hemisphere, has massive reserves of energy, has huge amounts of water, freshwater, which matters. And has the world's best farmland. So we are in a very rich hemisphere, and we haven't really

internalized that. So actually, if the world cleaves in two, if China fully controls the East,

mostly controls the East, and we mostly control the West, probably something we could live with.

Probably not a terrible thing for the United States, but it would require a totally different way of thinking. It would require the US government, depending on the State Department, the White House, all the academics that feed it information and deep thoughts about what the Empire should be. It would require all of them to change the way they think about the United States and its place in the world. So all of a sudden what happens in Brazil, which has massive reserves of freshwater,

farmland, and energy, would be way more important than what happens in Saudi Arabia.

And that's not a bad thing because we have a lot in common with Brazil, it's a Christian country, with a romance language. In our hemisphere, right there directly beneath us, it's a country almost the size of the continental United States, it's a huge country, it's a beautiful country, by the way. And Saudi Arabia is on the other side of the world. So why wouldn't you spend a lot more time thinking about what happens in Brazil, trying to improve Brazil, make it more stable,

make it more pro-American, not rolling in steel, it's oil, it's resources, but bring it into your sphere of influence. Well, you know, a country that was thinking clearly, would do that and would have been doing that for like the past 200 years. And not just in a Marshallman road doctrine way, we're not going to tolerate this, tolerate that, but actually tried to integrate your economy a little bit more. Again, have positive influence some sway over Brazil.

And then you think, well, if Brazil is important, what about Canada and Mexico, which are

literally on our borders, which are huge energy producers, Canada has far more oil than the United States, far more fresh water than the United States, Canada is the fourth biggest, is the fourth biggest oil reserves in the world. How much Americans know about Canada? Well, Canada happens to be falling apart as a nation, completely falling apart. It's in a state of domestic chaos. It's become a police state under the influence of China, Canada, the country with which we share

the longest border. Our most critical ally on the globe is Canada, the country we ignore.

How many Americans know what its capital is or how to pronounce it? Probably under half,

Canada is the single most important relationship that we have. It has always been our largest trading

partner. But going forward as American influence receipts to our hemisphere, what happens in Canada matters more than anything else. Maybe we should think about that. Maybe we should try to exert some influence on Canada, not necessarily by force though, by force if necessary. You could certainly make a regime change argument about Canada, talk about a country that's oppressing its own citizens, killed almost 100,000 of them through its state-sponsored

killing program, maids. You could make a human rights case to invade Canada, not that we should. But if ever there was a people that needed liberation from a government that hates them, it's the Canadians, of course. But you could make a case based on self-interest and regional

Interest, even on decency, to have a lot more positive influence on the inter...

Canada than we currently do. Canada's not a sovereign country, it never has been ever. It's part

of British Commonwealth. Now it's some sort of colony of Indian China. It's never been sovereign

and there's no reason that it should be. It should be decent and well-run for the benefit of its own citizens and you could say the same for Mexico. Mexico has brought benefits to the United States, a lot of decent people have come from Mexico, there's a lot of American manufacturing in Mexico, a lot of great vacation spots in Mexico, a lot of great Mexicans. But overall, Mexico has been a massive problem for the United States, both because of mass migration from Mexico because of the

ongoing drug war in Mexico, which has now moved into the United States. There's massive cartel

influence in the United States. There are politicians in the United States taking money from the cartels. America is with every passing day becoming more like Mexico and not in a good way.

Mexico has harmed the United States in a lot of ways, real ways, measurable ways, the migrant crisis,

all those illegal Biden-led in, they all mostly came to your Mexico with the knowledge in some case of the cooperation and the Mexican government. That's the behavior of an enemy nation. They don't need to be an enemy, but fixing that will require paying some attention to what happens in Mexico. That's some bad that's good. That'll be good for Mexico. And it's necessary for the United States. So why is all this relevant now because

what's happening in Iran is the end of American Empire as we understand it and that's sad, boo-hoo, Empire's dying. But it's not the end of the United States. It's not the end of our influence on other nations, hopefully positive influence. It's not the end of our economy. It's the

beginning of a very rough time in our economy. Of course, but it's hardly the end of it.

What we've been doing for likely your lifetime, if you're under 80 is, well, it's not working, anymore. It hasn't actually helped the United States long term. Your grandkids, at this point, don't have the promise of a better life than you had. So it's not actually a successful experiment. And now it's ending because we've reached the limits of our demonstrated power. We can't open the streets of Formus. The President of the United States said that last night. Someone else do it.

So we're done. That's okay. It was always going to end, hopefully you can get out without

a nuclear exchange. But now it is ending. And there's going to be a lot of suffering and sadness as a result of that end, but there will also be, there is an awful lot of promise. Promise that the United States can act in its own interest, that it can be reasonable, that it will not be governed by deranged people seized by hubris or get way out over their skis and get a ton of people killed, enough to occupy countries you've never been to can't

identify in a map. What we're doing doesn't work, whether you approve it morally or not. And we're going to do something else and that something else is starting right now. So the only point is you could with wise leadership turn this to the advantage of the United States and the Western Hemisphere very, very easily. And there's one other advantage to this moment, which is that it has been clarifying. All of a sudden we know what everybody in authority thinks

because they've been saying it because under pressure, people confess. The pressure, of course, is this war, which a lot of people in our commentariat, a lot of people in our governments, certainly in our Congress, a lot of people in Israel wanted. They all wanted this. And it didn't work the way they said it would. And even now it could go really, really wrong. And lots of Americans could die. Relatively speaking, a lot of have died. Oh, the casualty numbers are so low. Okay.

How about if that was your son? Would you feel they were low? Americans have died for this at the instigation of Israel to know material benefit to our country. And everyone knows that. There's no denying it. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just a fact. And now it's completely out on the open. So those ideas, Neil Conservatism, the preservation of empire,

The idea that you take orders from a tiny country far away, all of those thin...

risen right to the surface no longer whispered about. We can just say it openly because no one's hiding

it anymore. And we can all say they're destructive, stupid, and bad for the United States.

So those debates are over. We now know what's going on. And now we can change it. The other thing we've learned is that huge parts of Protestant Christianity in the United States, the leadership totally corrupt, and not just corrupt on an obvious level like, oh, the preachers having an affair or they're taken money from, whomever, they're shaken down the congregation

for 20 percent tides. No, corrupt on the level that matters most, which is spiritually corrupt.

They're not preaching Christianity, not because of their fielty to Israel, which is bizarre and kind of hard to understand. But on an even deeper level, that, there are many Protestant, American church leaders who are preaching a religion that bears no resemblance to Christianity. So that's the core problem right there. Who knows what this is? It's not Christianity. It's not what the gospels describe. Yesterday at the White House, they all show up, middle of Christian

holy week, four days before Easter, and not just the fringe Christians, Zionists, John Hageer,

these strange people, but the big guys. Franklin Graham, son of Billy Graham, shows up at the White House yesterday. To pray over the president, so he will have wisdom and restraint. No, to endorse the murder of civilians, which is a war crime, but more important. It's a moral crime. You can't kill people who have committed no crime, who did nothing wrong. You can't murder the innocent. You can't kill kids and women. And yet Franklin Graham is up there, standing at the

podium, praying for that. How do you do that? Well, by quoting someone called the Book of Esther, which is in the Christian Old Testament, a controversial book for a long time, Martin Luther thought it shouldn't have been there, but it is there. And it's the story among other things of a genocide, of Persians. Oh, yeah, 75,000 Persians, not just people who committed crimes,

but people who were Persian, and that's why they were killed. And it's in the Book of Esther,

which you should read, because it's interesting. It also happens to be maybe not coincidentally, the only book in the Christian Bible, Old and New Testament, that doesn't mention God. There's no mention of God in the Book of Esther. Now, there are all kinds of theologians, and this has been a debate for 2000 years. And there are people who argue that the Book of Esther implies the presence of God, God's plan on folds in the Book of Esther fine, hardly a theologian, not going to

debate it. But if you are a Christian clergyman or call yourself one, and you're giving spiritual counsel to a head of state, it really matters. And there's no reference whatsoever to Jesus. You're not preaching the gospel. You're not speaking actual truth to actual power. You're doing something else. Now, why is there no mention of Jesus? Why would Franklin Graham refer to the Book of Esther, the only book in the Bible, it doesn't mention God, when he talks about Christianity with the

president of the United States? Because you can't mention Jesus. That's why.

Because there's no evidence that Jesus was for genocide, killing civilians, murdering the innocent murder at all. This is God come to earth, the Christian Messiah, who allows himself to be tortured to death by pagans. He knows it's coming. That's the story of Holy Week. Jesus enters Jerusalem on a donkey, not on a stallion. He's not coming to overthrow the oppressor by force. He's coming in in total humility and accepting degradation and mocking and physical

torture, getting spit in the face by soldiers whipped. He's allowing this to happen.

Because he's saying the real victory is bigger than any victory achieved by k...

It's a victory over death itself. That's the Christian message.

That's the opposite of the message you heard from Christian leaders at the White House.

On the eve of the president's speech about the war yesterday. What does that tell you?

The point is not that they're bad or silly or practicing another religion other than Christianity. Oh, that's true. But the point is not to beat up on poor Franklin Graham. The point is that it's the end of something. Whatever that religion is is not going to continue. It just won't. Because it's a lie. And so it will end. As all lies do, it will be revealed as a lie. As all lies are.

And so you're watching the end of the global American empire, the unipolar world that was great, by the way, well, lasted. But it's over. And you're watching the end of whatever

American Protestant Christianity, one of the greatest and most positive forces in the history

of this world, whatever it became after the Second World War, which is something unrecognizable.

The people who built national cathedral on the highest point in Washington, D.C., were most beautiful buildings in the United States or Piscopalians. They built that. That cathedral. And it was the nation's cathedrals also above all a tribute to God. And you can tell by its beauty that it was. And now it's populated by people who share almost nothing in common with the people who built it. And that's the story of all human institutions and all human schemes.

They all come to an end. Of course, because they're devised by people who are silly and

venal and lack foresight and they're just limited because we all are much more than we imagine.

And so all of that dies at some point. And we just happen to have the misfortune or the great luck to be living in the middle of the moment where these great institutions and the expectations that come along with them are dying. Right in front of us right now. And that's sad. It's hard to watch. It'll affect your sleep if you think about it too much. But it's also a prerequisite. It is a necessary step. And this is something that all Christians are thinking

about in Holy Week to rebirth. The seed doesn't produce the tree until it dies. And so the death of the unipolar moment and of the institutions within the evangelical movement, American Protestant Christianity, are going away. But they will be replaced by something better and pure, more true to itself, constructive, unifying healing, institutions that build and don't just destroy. That's going to happen. And God willing, we will live to see it. So rejoice in that as sad

as this is. And happy Easter. So if you're following the war with the wrong, you probably noticed something strange. The coverage is everywhere. But the facts are hard to find. They're not actually telling you anything. How many people have been killed? What are the actual stakes for this country, your country, our country, the United States? The basic question is the ones that matter. You can't actually find out because this is a censored moment. You're not learning the truth. And that's

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