Bot Farms, JD Vance, NATO, Charlie Kirk, Israel & the Globalist Propaganda Network Connecting It All

>> Elizabeth Lane, thank you so much for doing this. >> Thank you. >> So I think about this interview,

I never preemptively responded to criticism or really responded

all, but in this one specific case, I was thinking about it because you're from Georgia, not Atlanta. >> No, not Atlanta, the country. >> The country of Georgia, the Caucasian country of Georgia.

“>> And you have been accused of being a foreign intel operative, right?”

>> Yes. >> Which you deny? >> Of course. >> I just want to say out loud, I don't care. Because that's not the point.

The point is, is the story you're about to tell true or is it not? And I should also say, having spent my entire life talking to undeclared intel operatives from one country or another, feel back, you know, like, oh wait, you were working on behalf of that country. Live in a country where, you know, operatives for Israel are everywhere

in our media, paid or unpaid irrelevant to me.

You know, even when Marklevins says something, I, my first response,

I force myself, is to ask, is this true? Because that's what matters. So your critics would like the conversation to be about you, and I would like to see a conversation about what you're saying. So I just want to say that upfront.

>> I love it, yeah. >> No, because that's what matters. And the whole thing is a diversion tactic designed to get you off of whatever the person has claimed onto the person. >> Exactly.

>> And I don't personally play along with that. I hope that you don't, but I just want to say that out loud before we begin. So here's the reason that I was so anxious to talk to you.

“Because I think you've gotten a lot of reporting and insight facts”

into a phenomenon that all of us have noticed in the past several years, which is the proliferation of, I don't want to use word, "but," but he's going to have paid influence operations online. >> Absolutely. >> On social media.

And it's not just that people feel so passionately about something that they become a show for this or that. It seems more organized than that, much more organized than that. And in fact, it is. And so I just, I'm going to stand back and let you tell the story,

but I will want to kick it off by asking you, "Where is all of this coming from?" So the president, for example, says we're going to have a memorandum of understanding with Iran, really, our only option, clearly. And all of a sudden, there's just a wave of attacks against him.

Someone else will stand up and say, "Wait a second, it looks like Russia could actually

send the hypersonic missile into Poland, maybe we should de-escalate. Wave of attack, shut up, Russian agent. What is the source of all that? >> You know, I'm glad you asked that, and I'm glad you mentioned the president, because some people think that it's coming from our government and it's not.

That's the thing, it's not coming from Trump's administration. It's not coming from the government trying to like, "Shut the dissidents up?" No, no, it's much bigger than that. And there are people who speculated before that it is only from Israel. It is from Israel as a state.

They don't even hide it. They declare themselves on their far out to get some type of control over our social media. But that's like something that I'm not even worried about, because we know they are on their far end. We know we are going to run into operatives that work with them.

Millions of dollars are wasted on this. What I'm worried about is my- >> It's wasted on it. >> And you're right. And I know the operatives, first of all, who are working for them.

>> Some attacked you. >> I haven't been paid any attention, but I know Brad Pascal and I mean these are sad. Screwed up people who are not going to- >> Of course.

>> He couldn't convince you to come and dinner at his house. I don't think he's going to convince you to change your allegiance to a foreign country. So I agree with you. I don't think it's that dangerous. >> Yes.

But there is much more dangerous force behind this, and you mentioned bots.

“So we get a differentiate between bots and paid propagandists, okay?”

So paid propagandists are not afraid to show their faces. They are actually out there speaking openly about Israel and how we support Israel. The United States, but bots are way more dangerous because they are faceless. And they operate in the shadows. They get information about family members and information they, by the way, shouldn't have

some of this. And somehow they utilize this ex Facebook Instagram to put it out there and ruin independent journalists. And by ruin, I mean, they lie. They flip out lie, make up stories, and somehow that story ends up on big newspapers in

the United States. >> Yes. >> And I'm about to tell you how that happens. >> I mean, I ask, just for more precise definition, what is a bot exactly? >> So bot is somebody who's like faceless, some avatar will be on this type of--

>> Is there a person behind that or is that AI? >> Sometimes.

to the comments, right? Some are just actual paid bots that there are there to be vicious and respond to people. >> And those are human beings. >> Those are human beings, and there's like another part of it, where just AI generates the

“same exact responses, and that's why you see, when you said, well, we got to have some”

deal with Iran, and the same exact responses go out like those are bots, like exact same sentences, right? Those are bots. >> Whether they're human or not, doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter, but always human operates even these bot farms, right?

There's always some corporation or company that operates, and we will dive into all of that trust me, like I will buy the time I'm done here, people will know exactly who's behind what names they need to pay attention to, and what's really going on. And the same people hate Trump, by the way, they, like I said, it's not coming from Trump administration.

>> They've always hated Trump. >> They always hated him. And to see him do their bidding, winningly or unwittingly, you know, consciously or unconsciously, intentionally or against his will, it doesn't matter. It's the most sad thing.

>> Yes. So, like to make it, you know, people like easy enemies, like people like to point fingers, like, oh, well, he's evil, let's fight him, but people don't like complexities. They don't like the way they just want easy answers, like who's the enemy, we go fight, right? Unfortunately, that's not how real life works.

Sometimes it's more complicated, and this is why I got to start with the story, so that we can get to current situation and how we ended up. >> And that's part of the appeal of hating Israel, is that it makes it very simple. Israel's committing genocide, obviously it's an evil country. I mean, they're committing genocide, so like they're evil.

>> True. >> But it doesn't mean that they're running the entire world, because they're not. >> They're not. >> I know. I know.

>> And so, first, let me thank you for everything you are, like, because I don't think

you get that enough and you should.

“I know your modest, but here's the thing, soccer, people like me would have given up”

long time ago, if not for people like you, because you blaze, you know, the trail for everyone else, and this way it becomes easier for us to fight, because they know that we don't have the backing, and they come after us, know that, so yeah. >> Thanks. >> So, if it's not Israel, but just to be totally clear, not a defense of the government

of Israel, which is totally indefensible, but it's just an acknowledgement of reality. >> Right. >> That is way too simple, and it's just not, it's not true, so they're not running the way it's sorry. >> Yes.

>> Who is? >> And it's not just Israel, but yes, so let me start with a very interesting story, okay? In 2018, there was a heck that happened, and it didn't get nowhere near the attention it deserved and for the reason, because what got exposed was a military intelligence operation in the media, and do you think that media would expose themselves by writing about it?

Of course not, but it got enough attention that it got investigated.

“And the heck was done by an entity called anonymous, okay?”

>> I remember. I remember anonymous that they destroyed, like anonymous doesn't really exist anymore. >> No. >> So there's a lively curve, any of them? >> Right.

>> Yes. So, anonymous heck's something called Integrity Initiative. And Integrity Initiative was a project, ran under Institute of Statecraft, okay? Well, no one knew what the heck Institute of Statecraft was. It was a think-to-ang, obscure think-to-ang, doing its own thing, but once the exposure

came out, people started paying attention because we realized how big and deep the issue ran. So, some journalists that you might know, Max Blumenthal, for example, and Daughters actually got on this case, and they were like, "This is more serious than they are telling us about." Thousands of emails came out and documents, and we learned that Institute of Statecraft

was running a military operation in the media using resources to go after politicians and independent journalists, smearing them, writing the chain of articles, so that they can prevent search and politicians from taining power in different, not just one, but in different countries and parliament. One of them was during the Corbin, for example, I'll dive into that too.

So, first let's talk about this Institute of Statecraft, and what it was.

Well, journalists want to check it out where this entities located. The public address said it was in Scotland, so some independent journalists went to see what it looks like, and when they got there, they only found an abandoned building.

this is a wrong address even though officially that's what they say they are located at, right?"

So they go back and they dive into these documents that got hacked, and they finally found

the real address, and it was two-tempo place, Central London. It was a former house of Knights Templar, and then they call other people conspiracy theorists, it's just very funny, but yeah, they picked the place, I didn't. So what came out in the emails and communications was pretty damaging, because here is a crew of journalists, intelligent officers, by the way, like Chris Donnelly, all British

some from other countries like Finland, Russia, Georgia, like, that was a Ukraine in Russian, not really Russian, and all these different countries in journalists who are on this chart, secret chart that was not supposed to be out in public, yes. And when you look at them, they don't really work together. So there's like no real records that these people ever work together.

But here is a chart from an actual organization that says they do work together, and they themselves designed it, like, explain this too. So what they did is they would communicate with each other by a different means like email was one of them, and they would write up this mere campaigns against people they didn't like, and they did all of this, there's my favorite part, under the gaze of fighting Russian

disinformation, okay? Yes. Of course. So they got the funds, because the idea was, we need to fight Russian disinformation, and we need crew of journalists and somehow military officers for it, and in telephysers

for it, and we are going to go after everyone that spreads Russian disinformation. I explained to me, Tucker, how is Jeremy Corbyn a British politician, a Russian agent?

“Because that's what they said, well, they didn't want Jeremy Corbyn in power.”

So they started smearing the guy, writing articles like Jeremy Corbyn is like, spewing Russian propaganda. He's an agent, he's putting his lover, he's putting his puppet, who's, you name it. And he's Nazi. He's an interesting subject.

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He was ahead of the labor party. Yes. So what I've noticed about this people is very simple, they oppose everyone that's not on their side. So it doesn't matter if you're a Nazi or a good guy or whatever, like if you're not

part of the crew, you don't get to do anything. And the agenda is a global stage agenda. 100%. 100% is the same agenda why NATO was created, there agenda is the same agenda as George Soros. For example, George Soros is a huge part of the story, huge part.

So whatever George Soros's agenda always was is the same that these people share very,

you know, passionately. So Jeremy Corbyn was not the only one. They had somebody called, I got a look, sorry. It's a lot of names, petrol, petrol bottles or something like that. So anyway, a Spanish military guy, so this Pedro was considered for one of the high

position's national security in Spain. I looked him up, he's a decent guy, like he just has his own channels, like talks about politics, oppose his globalism with everything he can. So they decided that Pedro Pedro Bonos was going to be a Russian agent. Even though he had no connections to Russia whatsoever.

So yeah, they started writing pieces that Pedro can never be a part of national security in Spain because he's a Russian agent, he's a Putin puppet.

So anyway, the same exact thing, the tactics never changed.

“Your Russian agents, therefore, you don't get to be in positions like, oh, power, right?”

So they destroyed Pedro Bonos's candidacy. He did not go and occupy the post that he was named for.

Wow. So they have power. So who are they exactly?

“Yes, so this is where we get to the most important part, okay?”

Well, everything I'm going to say, I'm going to say from their own words and their

own charts and what they wrote in those documents. And this is one of the charts I brought you. These are they, by the way, I don't know if you can see it, but these are journalists, these are intel officers and everyone that was on the chart, I don't think you can see it, but I can explain it.

So I don't want to confuse people by lots of names, so I'm going to give you the most important names that kind of drove this show, right? Chris Donnelly was one of them and Chris Donnelly is a British intelligence, Army intelligence officer. He was the one who got the funds for something called Integrity Initiative and you know

who paid the money, British foreign office. Yes, so you have a think tank running an operation in the media that is funded by British

foreign office and we know nothing about it, okay?

And it's stated purpose was what, just to fight Russian disinformation, but they are doing

“it through intel officers and like, I mean, how is that justified?”

And they have the journalists assigned in every country which we will talk about as you can see, there's a network management there, so they have this journalist assigned to different countries with the teams, how they're going to fight this Russian disinformation, right? So one of them was Jessica Arrow from Finland. Have you ever heard of her?

No. No one has. The only people who know who Jessica Arrow is people in Finland, okay? So because I'm not an expert in Finland, when I started investigating this network, I said, I need people on the ground independent journalists who will help me identify what this

Jessica Arrow actually did, right? So they advised me to reach out to four different Finnish journalists. I made sure to pick the ones that are completely independent. I said, I want journalists with two bedroom apartments, nothing more, like I need people who have no money and are in it for the good.

So they advised four different people, okay? Two of them knew each other, the other two was on the other side of the political spectrum. So they did not really communicate, which is exactly what I wanted because you're getting two different perspectives. I teach you not every single one of them.

When I mentioned this hack said, looking to Jessica Arrow, without exceptions, every single

“one, this is the woman you need to look into.”

She's a deep state operative. So then I started asking, what did she do? And one of the journalists said, well, she ruined independent journalists and their careers and their lives. Yeah.

So I'll tell you her direct story coming from her own mouth, okay? She said, she had a nice career, like you did on actual network, she even worked for BBC. And when she started telling the truth about Russian Ukrainian war, she got fired. So she was like, okay, well, I get fired. And I'm like, I'm gonna do what you did, start her own thing.

And after she started her own things, they just started hammering her, your Russian agent, your Russian puppet, you work for another government, the same exact strategy Tucker. It got so bad that her neighbor called the authorities on her. Yeah. That sounds like Finland.

Yes. Yes. Say this, it's a wonderful country, smart as people in the world beautiful, but very strange. Yes. And the most conformist place, it's a shame, it's a, I think the only white countries with

a shame culture, a nation, shame culture. I completely agree with. Yeah, it's a very different kind of place, it's not quite your up now. Yeah. But it is like the interesting part, authorities get there, right?

And they investigate whatever they do and they tell this neighbor, she's not Russian. You're fine, just shut up, like, we're good. Yeah. So here's a great case, Tucker, where authorities know exactly what's going on. The no one is a Russian agent, yet they're absolutely okay with this clan of people on that

paper, they're, they're, they're not my chart, this is their chart. A taken independent journalist completely destroying their career. Oh, so why you're not a Russian agent and we just destroyed your career, but shut up, it's okay.

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for noise. Not only UK, as you can see, there's like, let me, let me show you. It's interesting that they feel they have to crush a finish, someone in Helsinki, it's a

five million people, they also crushed people, let me read this to you.

So they have one in visa-grad countries, they have Ukraine, they have Baltic countries. So these are clusters, tucker. They assign their agents or whatever they call themselves, they assign their journalist agents to every country. So they have clusters in Baltic countries, they have clusters in Georgia in Ukraine.

So Eastern European countries in Finland and other places. And one is in the United States and we'll talk about that, too. And this is how they operate. Now, because there are a lot of names and all these journalists are little, you know, operators of these people and go out and, you know, they can, you know, articulate about tucker calls

or something, so that people think that you are a Russian agent or cattari agent or whatever, that's what they do.

This is a network they have.

“So the part that I want to talk about is the names that are most important here, okay?”

I don't know, it was one of them because guy is a British intelligence, like our intelligence agents, running the operation like this, what is this? And another one is Ben Nemo, who I think is extremely important figure. So Ben Nemo works as a NATO correspondent. By the way, they all start in journalism and they advance either in politics like Cicorsic,

for example, they have Polish minister, Cicorsic. Yes, yes, Dan Applebaum's husband. Yes, correct. Did you know that he also started as a journalist? I remember when he was a journalist, in the 1980s, writing for National Review Magazine.

There you go. So all of them do tucker and if you look at this chart, then they move up. So they start as journalists and then they do their due diligence there and then they get promoted in different places like OpenAI or NATO or something and I'll tell you Ben Nemo's case.

He looked into Ben Nemo and I was like, this guy is very interesting. He starts as a correspondent with NATO and then he joins NATO's press office as an employee. He then ends up in an American think tank at Atlantic Council and he works for, get this, digital forensics lab. And what does digital forensics, the ZX lab does?

Well, they recruit little keyboard fighters to fight Russian disinformation on social media. So what happens is Ben Nemo that just got exposed under British military intelligence operation running after journalists and attacking opposition in Britain and attacking some guy in Spain. This military guy that they didn't want to get the position, again, their own documents says that not me.

So now somebody thought it was a good idea to take Ben Nemo and put him as one of the main figures in digital forensics lab in Atlantic Council so they can manipulate American media I guess. Now in my saying Ben Nemo is the head of everything, no, but he's one guy involved in both operations that do exactly the same thing.

One in big media like these guys and another one on social media, but it gets better. So yes, Ben Nemo joins the open AI, he works with them now and there is another person

“that needs a lot of attention that's Peter Pomeranzev, okay?”

You come from big media, have you ever heard of Peter Pomeranzev? No, never. Well, he's very important. He writes for biggest publications, he writes for the Atlantic, he writes for New York Times, he writes for all the big, like newspapers in America, the most discredited.

Yeah, so home news organizations in the country, yeah, but he does that though. Who is he? Peter Pomeranzev is a key of born Jewish person that somehow got British citizenship, which

find like that. He's originally Ukrainian. Yes. He's a Korean born Jewish person, he ends up being a British citizen. Then he somehow ends up going to Russia to join media sphere there.

I don't know what happened. He got kicked out probably. I don't know what happened, but he ends up coming back to Britain and starting working with the biggest publications you can imagine. But here's a question I have for you.

As a journalist, is it America's number one newsman, you know, when you were at folks

“on the right, but you were, you had most, what was your show's ratings?”

I don't know. But he was big, right? Yeah, it was big. Yeah. It was the biggest and cable news, but I was that that was like being the host of the

Supreme Court Justice. You know. Because the table news. Great. How many owners in the middle do you have?

I would have to go into my honors in metal's room and I haven't been in a while because my servants are testing it. But do you have a lot of love in us, didn't he? Oh, thank you. Thank you.

Well, Peter, be with none of them, you know, he has a lot of words. Oh, yes. Yes. If we didn't, didn't know, yes, honors and all kinds.

I've never heard of the guy.

Yeah, I know. So he gets none of our-- Journalists are warning themselves. And I've been in this 35 years this month. I've been doing this.

And these people, the idea that you would get an award, I'm an award winning journalist,

“really, who gave you the award on the base of what?”

I mean, I've never won any award in Journalism. But I know of. Exactly. Why be glad not to win an award? I don't want an award.

I wouldn't accept an award. How many times have you testified in front of Congress, UK Parliament or American Senate? How many times you--how many times--I want to ask you because it's so interesting. How many times have you given them a device on worse, Tucker, or information on worse? Well, I did give Trump a lot of advice on worse.

Like, don't have them. But he ignored. Well, what about you? What about you as Congress or something? No, they hate me.

They've always hated me. Right? To focus on the people with actual power, who are writing history in real time and assess what they're doing and tell our readers or viewers about it. That's a really simple job.

And so that your job is not to suck up to power at all. Right. Great. Well, Peter Pomeransov has given plenty of advice to our Congress in Senate. Did you know that?

No, I've never heard of the guy.

And he's famous award winning journalist. Well, he's a famous owner to journalist on so many different awards. Like, honored. It's like, yeah. So serious.

Yes. It's a pretty small world. I mean, right? Journalism is pretty small. Yeah.

So he also, like I said, it might. Probably in Siv. Pomeransov. Pomeransov. Yes.

Pardon. My accent doesn't owe him. Yeah. Well, accurate pronunciations. I don't know.

I mean, it's a hard last name, right? Here is an interesting part, though. This guy advised UK parliament. I mean, he's British. Why do we care?

Whatever they want to do, but he also advised our Senate. On what?

“How to fight Russian disinformation and politics and all that?”

And this is a there's an actual video.

I put it up online where he goes, well, the problem is that Russians like Putin, and

we got to address that, and I'm like, wait a second. So a Kiev-born Jewish person is made that Russians like Putin. Why is that your business? Why excuse my language? Why is your ass burning that Russians like the president?

Who are you? Well, that would be one of my first questions, too, especially since you're speaking before a body that is part of a purported republic. Exactly. You know, where the people rule and our whole foreign policy is based on the deal we're

bringing so-called democracy to the rest of the world, people should get what they want because they're the owners of the country. And so if your complaint is that the people are getting what they want, but you don't want them to get what they want. So you have changed their opinion of what they want, then you are an enemy of democracy.

Aren't you? Or am I missing something? You're not missing anything, but these are how interesting these names were, Tucker, and if you think that Peter Pomeranza was the only one with owners in the world, let me remind you about Jessica Arrows that I mentioned.

Yes, Peter Pomeranza, the award-winning journalist from Ukraine. For owner, Juno, he's like, "Yeah, we're winning one or two, okay, so let's break for the end. Yeah, Jeff Goldberg." Yes, yes, yes.

Where does he work? So he writes for biggest publications, like I said, he, but how was he connected to this effort to that? Oh, he worked for, he was on an advisory board for them. So he's on an advisory board, and he's mentioned as an advisor to an entire network.

He's on an advisory board with like British former military guys and stuff.

Yes. And how much do we know about where the money comes? Oh, we know everything. We, like, when the, the heck happened, we knew exactly who was paying for the integrity initiative, and I should say, please check out Mags Blumentals work on the money part of things because

he went all the way, like he, so it came from a British foreign office. Amazing. Yes. It's all documented. Like I said, I still exist.

No, they, after they had, they kind of scrambled and they reshape their operations, which I will talk about. After the truth came out. Yeah, after the truth came out exactly. So, but another important thing is, and this directly ties to Trump administration, and

why has supported Trump. So, this woman Jessica Aro, like Peter Pomeranze, if she's on the board, okay? Like some Finnish girl that no one in Finland like and detect all this journalists.

“But please remember, they are fighting Russian disinformation, okay?”

They're not attacking anyone. They are fighting Russian disinformation. So this Jessica Aro was scheduled to come to Washington and get awarded. Did you know that? No, I had no idea.

I'm never invited to these words, Hermann.

It's good for you. That's why I'm sitting here and not somewhere else. So she was scheduled to come and get awarded. And then Trump administration came, Trump won, and they said, "Someone, I don't know who it was.

I can't claim something. I don't know." So, someone looked at her past, right, and who she is, and they said, "Yeah, not today. You're not kidding your word." So, all hell broke loose about this.

There are domestic publications writing, "How dare you not awards Jessica Aro and what happened? We demand answers. It's all line. Go check.

All of it is all line. How this crazy media agents lost their mind over this." And I believe that Trump administration said, "Well, she was something happened.

She was never in the least to get awarded."

But then CNN was the one who broke the story that there were communications getting Jessica Aro ready for travel. I believe it was CNN, but don't quote me on that. One of the big channels broke the story, and they demanded answers. How do we dare not award Jessica Aro from the moment?

I swear it's all true. So I was like, why is it such a big deal? Why is it such a big deal for the journalists who get awarded and get medals and all that? And in my opinion, and now, this is just my opinion here, okay? It's not for American stalker.

The awards are for Finnish people, so that she can go back home and propaganda is people. By saying, "I'm an awarded journalist from the United States. You should trust what I say." And when I tell you that poor journalists there on a salary or whatever is a Russian agent, you must believe it.

The awards is therefore the opposite of killing someone's images, what, amplifying them,

“giving them more power, that's why they do it.”

No one can. When I take the Jeremy Corbyn as an anti-Semite, you have to believe me. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

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He's just, he's a nationalist, basically, too much for that, anyway.

Yeah.

“But this gets better and he thought you couldn't get better, right?”

But it does. You have no idea. So after this net where it gets disrupted, again, I urge everyone to go and see themselves

The information is all out there.

I brought all of it here.

“So after this net where it gets disrupted, they're like, what do we do now?”

So right after one year, 2019, NATO designs an operation. They call it social media experiment, okay? And let's pause. What is NATO? North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

Yes. Yes. So it's a military alliance Europe. It started Western Europe opposing the Warsaw Pact, the Soviets, the Iron Curtain. Which doesn't exist anymore.

I'm aware. So it's 1991, so 25, 35 years. What is NATO now exactly? It has become a rethink but a military organization.

And I'm about to tell you one thing that it does that they tune and do.

So NATO has something called Stratcom. It's a strategic communication, central of excellence or something, where they employ different people, including journalists, okay? So NATO is Stratcom. They're journalists who work for NATO?

Yeah. Well, Ben, you boys, one of them, because if you're working for NATO, you're not a journalist, okay? It's a nuclear. Right, great.

You forfeit the title. How much? How many awards you've won. Can I go anymore? Sorry.

No, it's a trucking. I know. I had the same reactions. We're not as investigating this. I had to take pauses, Tucker.

I had to look at the wall for a second.

I'm like, what am I doing here? What are we living in a Truman Show? Because we are. We are. I know.

Yeah. So NATO decides this program and it calls it social media experiment. Okay? What do they do? Well, they want to fight Russian this information.

“I'm going to say this a lot, because they are saying this a lot, right?”

They want to fight Russia in Russian this information. And they, they said, well, we want to see if social media platforms can be manipulated. So the narrative can be manipulated without detection. Their words, all in here, not mine, they wanted to check if they can manipulate social media and not be detected.

Damn. You would think, Tucker, that some same person would have just raised their hands and say, "We are a military organization. We shouldn't be doing that." Fair.

None of them did. So did they attempt to do that? Yeah. So here's what they did. Let me just look so I don't give you wrong numbers.

Okay? They bought thousands of, I think it was 500,000 or something. Troll spots that you called, like when we started this show. They bought fake comments and fake engagement. So they bought fake comments, fake engagement, ton of bots.

And they ran the operation.

“And I want you to remember when it happened in 2019, okay?”

This is 2019, when NATO starts this operation. So they contract a company called Singularix. Do you know where this company is located? No. Card can be crane.

Actually. Actually. And what year is this 2019? Uh, 2019. Yeah.

So it is located in Harkiv, Ukraine is a new Ukrainian company. They contract it. But if you're wondering, like, well, there was maybe just one contract. You know, so what that Ukraine is, you know, it were with Russia. They can still be objective, right?

They can still be objective fighting Russian information even though they are contract. And Ukrainian company for it. But whatever, it was not just one contract. NATO constantly works with Singularix. A Ukrainian company.

So this is where we dive into why people are bothered with these trolls and these trolls coming after independent journalists and so on. So after this whole thing happened, independent journalists kind of noticed that they are getting attacked a lot, especially when they come after and talk about Russia Ukraine. There engagements go zero or they are called all kinds of stuff like Russian horrors or worse. I'm not going to say these terrible things, but it happened, right? So no one really bothered to dive in.

What companies behind this and who's doing this stuff. No one even knew that NATO is running this operation in 2019. By the way, they were absolutely successful. Absolutely successful. So they didn't have a reason to stop the operation, okay?

And then that happened something very interesting. And I have to tie in my personal thing here so I can explain how I got on this trail. I'm someone like you that when I see Russia Ukraine, I understand this issue, just like you do.

So I speak about what I believe is true.

They came after me, of course, calling me a Russian agent similar. And then I started diving into Charlie Kirk's assassination and things got way worse. After Candace's interview and stuff, it just went off rails with this attacks and stuff to the point where it was already like real threats. Like with my brothers and like real threats on family, myself, everything. So at the point I'm like, okay, this is real.

“This is something that you need to report to the authorities.”

And I wanted to look into who's behind this, who's threatening me. I discovered this network, but then I discovered also paid ops, right? Like a paid operatives that are getting paid by Israel and, you know, using NATO boats. So paid operatives from Israel, which you know with Brett Pascal, are somehow protected with NATO boats from Ukraine. And if you doubt they are real NATO boats from Ukraine, let me read you something, okay?

This is very important because they themselves say they are. They send me threats like Zelensky, it sends love. So I don't know why would an American boats send me that. No. So I have a screenshot here with that.

What's the connection between Israel and Ukraine? Maybe it's better question. What's the difference? So the connection is what I've noticed is that Ukrainian trolls come to the rescue of Israeli paid propagandists. So the guy, for example, they came after you that times wrote about, they would defend their guy in the comments.

So Israeli propaganda is their pushing propaganda. And the Ukrainian NATO boats are protecting the propaganda. That's the connection.

“I don't know why they do that. My guess is now off of the fact that the actual gas and what I think is going on.”

Ukraine and Israel is owned by the same people. And those are raging Zionists, okay?

So yeah, and then most important part here, we have not even gotten to the most important part of the story.

One of the people that came after me, and this is a more of a paid propagandist side versus the boats. It was former Greenbure, like this Gary guy, I'm not even going to say his name because they're looking for real engagement and real people and real fame. So let's call him Gary. He comes after me and he just makes this ridiculous claims, calls me a Russian agent, accuses me of crime, does like YouTube channels, like episode after episode of calling me, making fun of my accent. I mean, you name it, like this is a nasty little, you know? So I'm like, what's going on here? It's a former Greenbure, like what's going on here?

And then I get an interesting phone call. And it is someone who knows Gary and says Elizabeth, I've been watching what's going on. And this attacks on you, especially after I dive into this investigation and Charlie Kirk and this stuff.

“And I think you need to talk to my friend right now.”

And I'm like, okay, he's a former Greenbure also special forces and you need to talk to him at SAP. I'm like, okay, so I call. This guy picks up he's like, oh, I know Gary really well. I'm like, let's go in on. Let me tell you something Elizabeth, he says. So Gary and I used to do videos together.

And Gary himself didn't believe in Charlie Kirk's assassination narrative. So I was like, okay, but now he's attacking everyone, especially Candace, especially Candace. I mean, Candace is like Gary wakes up for it and goes to sleep to attack Candace, right? And everyone else along, including you, if you get in the way, they will come after you too, as soon as you're quite about Charlie, he's going to be okay. So, and I'm like, okay, what's going on? And he says, well, do you know that when Charlie died, Gary got paid by the DOD?

I'm like, okay, so, and that's when he changed his narrative, he said. But that's not all, though. So apparently Gary gets paid by DOD, a very generous amount of money. Gary changes the narrative and now Tyler Robinson is the killer and everything he's fine, okay?

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specifically about the Charlie Kirk case.

So I know that Ukraine is paying them, and I'll tell you how, but with Gary's case, we have these documents.

Ukraine is paying them to do what? We will get to it. Trust. We just trust the process. I'll get to it. I will. I trust the process. Yeah. So he says, Gary got paid by DOD.

“So that doesn't surprise me because, okay, former Green Breme, maybe some contract, maybe something, right?”

So I'm like, okay, but you gotta give me something better than that, and he's like, oh, we'll give you better. It's not just me who's a former Green Breme, like we have five other guys that want to talk to you. I'm like, okay, so he says that when Gary got paid, Gary stopped making videos with him and started attacking him. So two Green Breme's are making videos, okay? Two Green Breme's Gary and this other one that called me on, and said, we both were sure that something was wrong with the main narrative with Charlie Kirk.

All of a sudden he says, I keep going with my videos how this is unacceptable, wrong, and Gary starts coming after me attacking me. Without even a phone call or anything, just attacking me viciously. So he's a men's men, he's a honorable military guy on the others, and he calls him. And he says, are you okay, dude? What are you doing? And immediately Gary goes, like, I'm so sorry. I have huge respect for you.

I will not do this again. I don't know what happened. I'm so sorry. They're all that way, right?

This is happening to me. You confront them weak men or like that. They'll never be straightforward with you because they're too weak.

I'm so sorry. I didn't mean that they're about attacking you again. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, no, I know the species. As soon as he got off the phone, like only a few days after he goes ahead and sees Gary attacking me again, again and again. So then he started investigating with his body, his green parades, Navy seals, all of that, and they found something.

And this is where I got him to group call. So they said, Elizabeth, we have a huge story for you, and someone is to put this out. I'm like, okay, I'm listening. He says, when Russia Ukraine were started, we special forces guys got some interesting calls. I'm like, okay, you're creating a company called us. They said, and they offered us money. I was like, for what? They said, we were supposed to go on YouTube and glorify Ukraine, Zelensky, their military, all this fresh Russia, and we would be compensated for it.

Yes. So immediately, my reaction was, please tell me, remember the company. And please tell me, you have some proof, and it was like, yes, I remember the company we all do, and we have the proof. So I'm like, great. Here's the offer, Tucker. These are former special forces guys. Some don't even have YouTube, some do. And the deal was the biggest YouTubers that they wanted, right, to spread Ukraine in propaganda.

They would get paid some around $10,000 a video, okay, $10,000. And above that, they would get $40,000 in advertisement money.

“So they would be set with good advertising. That is already $50,000 if they did just one video a week, right?”

But they said, you can do as many as you want. If you want like 50 videos, you can do 50 videos, we'll pay whatever. So great deal. I mean, just do your numbers, multiply them, right? $40,000 in ad money. And then they said something very interesting. Perks were, they would get to meet the biggest politicians in America, like Secretary of State, for example.

And they would take flights with them and they would take car rides and so on. And that happened too. By the way, I want to say, Secretary of State, these particular offer was not the Secretary of State.

Wow. Like before. Yeah. So as you will understand, not only they have people at the DOD, and like not just the OD, but in general in the American government.

And they were so secure making this offer that obviously our government is involved, like not not again Trump administration. I'm talking about previously, but the closest offer was only two years ago. Okay. So the reason these people got on the phone call with me is because they declined the offer. Did they know where the money was coming from? Yes. It was a company called United 24.

United 24. Yes. Ukrainian company set up by Ukrainian government. Yes.

“So here's an interesting thing with the United 24. You know who provides money for United 24?”

Who? We do. The U.S. government. Well, the U.S. everybody. So if I wanted to donate to them, they have a website that I go to donate. They got a ton of money from Hollywood. And actors and actresses, those are so they have our money going to them, and they are propagandizing us with our own money.

That's part of the humiliation ritual. Yeah.

It's crazy. But it gets crazier. So yeah. I mean, how do you understand this story was never told by anybody?

No. I can't believe I'm sitting here with you and telling this the first time when we have much bigger, much more powerful and skillful journalists out there who should have done this story. No. No, they're part of it too. So the boys told me they are absolutely mad and angry at Ukrainian company, this particular one, and Ukrainians.

And they said we are fed up with them, go destroy them. So I'm like, okay, there's something hidden, not just money over like what's going on. One of them said, well, when I said no, and I said go to yourselves. Excuse my language. They went after his work. So they called the boss of this person.

You know how like when special ups guys get out, they do like contracting work. Yeah, you know. So he was doing one of those, and they called his work.

“He's boss and says, these guys are Russian agent. He works for Russians. You need to drop him.”

What? Yes. Did it work? No, of course not. So the guy called him, the boss called him up and says, I'm getting ton of calls about you being a Russian agent.

What's going on? And he says, I'll deal with them. Don't worry about them. He's not the only single or case. They did it to every single one of them.

Wow. Yes. So I'm not surprised that I'm a Russian agent that everyone else is a Russian agent. And you are a Catari agent. I'm not surprised anymore because if they have the audacity to do this to a former special ups guy,

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And it also means that they accuse you all people are like this of what they're doing themselves. So the relentless focus on where independent journalists are getting their money and they're taking payment from the show that person.

I don't take payment for anybody. Never have. Like I'm not that interested. I don't know about the money. You don't have to believe me, but it's.

You see how I live. You can tell it's true.

And that's always coming from people who care only about the money.

The bench pairs of the world. It's only about the money. So I just find it interesting. Like why not criticize people for their obvious flaws. I have many obvious flaws.

They never go after me on that. It's always the money. It's like that's the one sin I'm not prone to. It's like you picked the one thing I don't do wrong. It's like where it is.

Well, they are projecting Tucker. They're projecting. They are graded at it, too. And this is like the second part of this story now. Now, just I want you to imagine.

So need to run this 2019 experiment here successful. They themselves stated they were successful.

“So that means that you can operate on social media and detect it, right?”

That was the whole point, right? Right. So, and they do.

Well, I've never heard of it till right now.

Right. So it was successful. Yeah, it was successful. And they do. And when you look at these accounts that are attacking people,

most of them are set up in 2019. The same year they need to run this experiment. Man. So, while people think it's all Israel. Yeah.

It's actually not just Israel. It's a bigger monster behind this all. Yes. And that's NATO. And NATO is what?

Explain to me what exactly NATO is. So, like, it's an interest of multiple different countries. Okay? Not just us. NATO is an entity that we should be staying away from.

Like, keep them at all.

“We should have been out of NATO 35 years ago.”

I agree.

And here they are running social media experiments.

It's taking American journalists. And they feel so secure that they know nothing will happen to them. They made fun of me. I said, "I'm going to report you to the FBI." And they literally laughed at it.

How did that FBI go with you? Like, how did that? Like, how did it turn out? By the way, I did that. So, when the attacks amplified and it became absolutely unbearable,

where I need to do my job, I called up a friend of mine. And I said, "You worked with the FBI before. I need an active agent. Someone you trust and I need a guy with balls. Because what's going to happen is when he escalates this case,

someone is going to shut him up. Because no way, this case goes like, you know, no way." So, he said, "I've got the guy." So, this guy reaches out to me. And I had my former detective and why he did the active talk to him,

because they warned me, "Don't talk to the FBI. They will do what they did to Flynn." So, don't do that.

“So, I got a professional former detective talk to them.”

And he said, "Well, yeah, this is a serious matter. We have some foreign sources. Some Ukrainian, Georgian, and NATO trolls attacking American journalists. And we have somebody from the inside that doesn't care. And this is keep going on.

Like, the FBI needs to get on this case and figure out where the journalists hear, who are the people here allowing this to happen." Yes. Right? Because there are people. These persons that offered all these benefits and money to American soldiers

was living in San Francisco. Not in Ukraine. Okay? By the way, I forgot. We have proof.

We have a Zoom call with them. Zoom call. What does it show? Everything. Zoom call shows how they offer the person, this military people.

10K, 40K for additional whatever advertisements. And it shows how they say you will have all these benefits. And that money comes from NATO. No, no. That money comes from United 24.

24. Where that we donate. The money for the trolls that, like this 2019 experiments that was ran with Ukrainian company comes from NATO. Does it make sense?

It does. So it's multiple different fronts. But elements of it don't make sense. So here's the story Americans were presented five years ago when the Russia Ukraine thing started to move toward war.

Here you have this independent, noble country called Ukraine and they are threatened by these expansionists to their east, this communist country called Russia with this Bluthersy dictator, Vladimir Putin running it. And so we're on the side of the underdog, the little guy.

Right. And this is an outgrowth of that story. But what doesn't make sense is why would they get involved in the Charlie Kirk story? What does that have to do with that thing?

Thank you for asking that. Why would the Ukrainians have an opinion on that? I've stayed out of it. And I know him well. But whatever.

But the Ukrainians, I mean, maybe they've heard of Charlie Kirk, why are they weighing in on it? I'm now a legit confused.

So 90% of Ukrainians, I can say this with all certainty. Don't even know who Charlie Kirk is. Of course.

And if they've heard of him, they never've been listened to one debate

or interview. They don't. He was in English, by the way. Yes. They don't.

They don't. They don't care. So I don't understand why would Ukrainian trolls and they are Ukrainian and Georgians who are threatening me personally. I can talk about my case.

“I don't have to talk about yours or other cases in speculate, right?”

So they are sending me, Zelensky's love openly, by the way. And calling me all kinds of names in Russian and Ukrainian, the same clothes language. All of this. So I know for effect that they are Ukrainian and Georgian trolls,

not just Ukrainian, by the way. What I don't know is why they are covering for Israel when Israeli propaganda is gold. They're attacking people. And what I don't know is why they are attacking people

who question Charlie Kirk's assassination. So they only come. But you know for effect they are. The for effect. For effect.

That they are. Well, that's just like one of the weirdest things I've heard in a long time. Of course, if we're being totally honest, it's not weird at all.

I would expect it because I can feel that there's a connection. But I couldn't explain it. Yeah. It doesn't shock me that. I mean, the ties between Ukrainian and Israel

are subtle. I think both countries of governments have gone out of their way to downplay their connection. Pretty clear. They're very closely connected.

And but in Charlie Kirk, like I've could never explain

why that doesn't shock me. But if I'm being honest, it really doesn't. This is much bigger than Charlie Kirk's murder than Russia's special military operation. In the invasion of Ukraine, whatever.

Warne Iran. I mean, it's all of a piece. It's the same people. Same people. The same narrative, same accusations,

Tucker. Can we get real for a second? Of course. So I used to think that Trump betrayed us badly. Like I used to think that all of us were Marka.

We were showing, I was the biggest supporter. I got in trouble like laying on Biden in country of Georgia getting on a show. They came after me. They sent people at my door.

Literally. So I was one of the biggest Trump fighters. Okay. So I know exactly what Maga was supposed to be in food for, right?

All of us knew. Then this whole thing happens. I'm like, oh my gosh, he betrayed us. But now I after investigating this. I don't think so.

So I think the goal was. This global is this NATO people. And British intel that's running this integrity initiative. Secretly and Jessica Aeros in Finland. Just think about this for a second.

We're talking about British intelligence. British funded. Operation that extends in almost every country. But then when you look into it, all of a sudden you discover. Actually, it's not really Britain.

Because they are also getting funds from Atlantic Council. They are also getting funds from NATO. So it's like an almost like a world organization. And they are running their operation everywhere. Again, their own chart says what countries they run to.

This operation. And it's everywhere. Okay. So this Kaba looks at Trump and everyone in line with Trump, which is you, Candace. And Charlie.

And all these people, Marjor Taylor Green, Thomas Messy. And they get scared. They're like, okay. If these people are allowed to do what they're coming to do. 60 plus year of work is done.

“So what I think happened here is they said,”

we have to do what we do the best, divide and conquer. We got an isolate from one by one. We're going to destroy this Maga people and put our operatives in. This is what I would do if I was the better guy. Because there's a force coming at me that will destroy my life's work.

You are on to NATO. Not on to NATO, but you are for. This is not an option. I should not. I should not.

I should not. It's a threat to the sovereignty of my country that I was born in. Like NATO hurts the United States. And a lot of other people. Yes, I agree.

Killing Kodafi. Like what? What does that have to do with keeping the Soviets out of Germany? Like this whole thing is so bonkers. Yeah.

No, I'm passionately opposed to NATO. Because I'm pro-American. Yeah. And so Charlie.

But it's always any normal person.

Like what's? Yeah. Well, think about it. Think about this, Tucker. So they see this, right? Some globalist to arm me.

What? Why would I ever support something like that? Oh, shut up. How about no? Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah. Anyway, so. But no, no, no. They're right.

“And they knew that, okay, they assess the situation, right?”

And I often thought about why are you at life? No, first.

Why is Candice alive even though they want to kill her?

So I'm looking at this. And I'm seeing. We've had some close calls. Um. That's true.

They almost got you in Ukraine, right? Like. But yeah.

“But they look at the force that's coming, though, Tucker.”

This is very important. And they see it. And they're like, if Trump is allowed to come in with this people, these people. Like the mega people. They are going to leave NATO.

We're screwed. Without the United States, what is NATO? Absolutely. Nothing, right? Like nothing.

So they're going to leave NATO. They will stop Ukraine in war in Russia.

They're going to talk to Putin.

And with all these people next to Trump, Trump will make the right decision. We will never get Iran. That will never happen. So that was the plan you know this for the longest time. Israel wanted to get into Iran.

More like they wanted us in the Iran more. Even they themselves say that. So it's not a conspiracy theory that Elizabeth Lane is shooting. The opposite. Yeah.

Just the opposite. They've been talking about it openly in my presence for 30 years. So yeah. What happened though, Tucker? You do the mess.

What happened? What happened? They outstate Margeta Lugrin. They outstate Thomas Messy. I wish we had a video of someone saying, oh, yeah.

It was me sending betsheet about Tucker to prison Trump. Oh, that's right. That was a lot of rumor, right? Right. So what they did is they absolutely poisoned this man against everyone that was dangerous.

Of course. And who actually supported this program? Exactly. Exactly. So as you know, with all these tools that you just looked at, all of these tools.

How hard it is to put someone in a Truman show. One person. Once you isolate him all from all the friends and the lies that he has. Of course. I always say this.

You speak in an assistant who only feel feeds him. Primaesticated lies. Exactly. And you control his brain. They may have done that.

And they may have done that.

And the information war is the most important war.

So one more thing I want to say. You can be the best, most honest prison in the world. You can be the best soldier in the world. And if someone puts a wrong intel in front of you and wrong information, you will go nowhere.

Are you, do you agree with that? I agree. But I mean, I talked to Trump about it so much. And I know that he knew exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway. And so I just don't buy that explanation.

Interesting.

“So you're saying that he knew exactly what was going to happen?”

He knew what the risks were. I think he convinced himself that as soon as he killed the eye, a total of the country would collapse and we'd get some pro Western leader, King or something. Yeah.

But, no, no, he was very, very aware of what the risks were. I talked to him about it. So I think the mechanisms of control, you know, was probably a little more direct than what you're describing. But in general, I think, I think you're absolutely right.

He lives in a biosphere where no, no information comes in. And like you can only see, you know, Markle Vaner. Markle Vaner? Markle Vaner? Markle Vaner?

Markle Vaner? Exactly. Exactly. These guys, they hate Jade events and I brought that to. So they are afraid of Jade events for some reason. Why do you know that?

How do you know that? Like I said, I've been watching them talker for like, when I did this investigation, I took down, if someone wants it, by the way, I took down every account who's related to who who reshears, who why, what kind of text.

So they have this wave of campaigns, right? And this is something I want to also mention. So I threatened Gary with their lawsuit. And as soon as they heard that I was going to sue. By the way, I'm not going to sue my, my priesthood.

We're Christians. And we are not going to fight demons that's God's work.

“So like, you need to do what's your work.”

And they can distract you with all of this. And they shouldn't. So you do what, what is assigned to you. Let God take care of this demons, right? Amazing.

And wonderful advice. That's the best advice. Yeah. So he was like, come to me in this like monastery. And by the time you leave you one of the uncertainty was right,

I know the answer. But when I did that, when I sue the threatened to sue, swarm of Ukrainian trolls came after me saying, like, he will be famous for the reasons you don't want to. I mean, from kill you to will destroy you to all of it.

Like everything was there. Every thread you can imagine, okay? But then someone else showed up on the radar, which is also very important. His name is Ryan Mauro.

I didn't see the connection. And you asked for, what is this Ukrainian anti-nist connection? Like the, you know, Israeli connection? Well, you know that Ryan is a raging Zionist, you know?

And he also was a very big supporter of the Instagram. Ryan gets into my,

“Why could you support Israel when they're committing genocide?”

It's like being pronazi. Like, what, how could you have someone even say that? How loud, and how could you be pro-Linsey Graham?

I mean, maybe like the guy I always liked him as a person.

He's nice guy, funny guy. But like, just as a, you know, he's like good, right? Didn't have a lensogram many times and always enjoyed myself. But like, he was a death worshipper. How could you be for that?

I don't understand. Exactly. Well, you know the ties that he had with Ukraine, right? Like Ukraine. And, you know, Lindsey Graham was the biggest supporter for Ukraine.

At the same time, he was a supporter of Israel. So something with this Ukraine in Israel is very connected. And again, they are under the same people. But Ryan Morrow was great example for it. But here is how this, like, this is such a big web.

Tucker and someone is to untangle it. And I don't know why people are not trying. So Ryan Morrow gets into my personal messages.

“Who is, can you just, for those who don't know who he is?”

Ryan Morrow. Morrow. Yes. He runs a think tank. Well, he has a nonprofit that is tied to this bigger nonprofit.

So it's like eight million a year or something.

And this is how they maneuver around like these operatives, right? So they are tied to Atlantic console. They are tied to NATO. They have their own nonprofit. So they get paid paid through the nonprofit and donations that can no one can track.

So Ryan Morrow is one of the operatives that has Morrow Institute that is tied to this bigger nonprofit. God knows how he gets paid. But he named it after himself for Morrow Institute. Yeah, Morrow Institute. That's hilarious.

So, but here is something that I wanted to pay attention. So this is Ryan, taking a Georgian troll here, saying that he worked with this particular account to diving to me and find out some information. Okay?

So here's an interesting story that will tie everything in for you in a second.

Interesting. So Ryan takes this account that he worked with this people. And I'm like, okay, great. Ryan is also the one protecting Greenboard Gary that is attacking Candace and me over Charlie Kirk. But Ryan has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk.

Like Ryan is a separate actor against. From policy guy. Exactly. Well, should be for foreign policy guy. So he's protecting Gary telling me not to so Gary.

And he's like, Elizabeth, this is not going to end well for you. Like, we're not afraid of you. So after that, this was against.

“So because I was going after their little propaganda is Gary, right?”

Like I'm going after Gary in Jen, like the producer who mysteriously appeared with Gary after Charlie died. By the way, these guy has a tiny YouTube channel that he's monetizing or whatever and has a producer, which is weird. Because all the other guys they got the same offer from Ukraine said, Elizabeth, we don't have producers. And we're like, three times bigger than Gary. So how does this guy, all of a sudden gets a producer after Charlie dies.

He changed the narrative, gets paid by DOD. And it just, like, the proof lines up, like you just tell me what you need. I'll give you about this guy, right? Like the money's there. All of a sudden gets a weird producer.

We look into this producer and her friends are hugging Serbian Ukraine. Yes, it's all on her freaking LinkedIn. We didn't even need to dig hard. So he reshared his family, Zelensky's family, she reshared Zelensky's family with hearts, loves all of that. And her friends that are hugging Serbian Ukraine, all of a sudden this woman ends up as a Gary's producer without producing experience.

Okay, just ends up as a Gary's producer. Gary changes this story a little bit sudden. Tyler Robinson should be put on a desk row because he killed Charlie, or whatever. Goes off to her canvas, me and the everyone that ever challenged the narrative. These green boys reach out to me, tell me what's going on, right?

The story that we just ended with. Then Ryan Mawrod of nowhere comes and starts to persuade me why I shouldn't sue Gary. And if I do, it will end bad for me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be the loser in that. And then I started diving to Ryan Mawrod and what the connection is.

He's such an idiot, Tucker, that he writes me that Gary shows personal messages to him. Again, please understand these people should not be related in any shape and form. Do you show your personal messages to random people? Not one person ever. Right, because they're personal.

Yeah, so I have these documented him writing me that Gary shows personal messages to Ryan Mawrod. I'm like, okay, what is what the heck is going on here? So then I do this investigation and I put out some of it online and Ryan loses it.

What's your beef with this, right?

“So then he starts, he's told the tech me and these trolls that he tagged.”

I go after them to figure out who they are and I do. And I find one of them, a Georgian troll this one. You don't need to read the name, but just so you know.

And here's what I have to show you about that.

So I find that guy. Okay. Former intern at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia. Yes, yes. Graduate of Caucasian University in the international relations.

Okay. So, but here's the best part, Tucker. So they put out my high school ID from Georgia. Like for everyone to see, I don't know why they thought like that would intimidate me. Like I don't care, like you can put out whatever you want.

But I knew that Georgian was involved because no one can get hands on that particular document. Without knowing like Georgian systems or so on. So I pushed them on something that's very sensitive.

They will do anything not to for people not to find out that military intelligence is behind this.

They will do anything. So I publicly started stating, I know you work with intelligence. I know you work with intelligence and they got so pressured by it. That this troll that Ryan tagged to be working with put out how he found my ID. What is wrong with this screenshot?

Can you tell me what's wrong with this screenshot? Can you read it? I don't know. You can't read it, right? No.

It's not in our alphabet, listen. Thank you. So it's in Georgia and Tucker.

“Remember there's a lot like Sanskrit, by the way.”

Did you know that?

No, I didn't know that because I grew up with it, so it doesn't look weird to me.

But so this moron puts out how the entire process, by the way. Screen shot by screenshot. Apparently in American, these guys supposed to be American, he says he's a proud American. He's a proud American on his profile. Okay.

So this so called American not only reads Georgian and writes, but he can absolutely go through a very complex website in Georgia. How many Americans do you know they can do that? I mean, I, I felt like I know a lot more about Georgia than your average American. And I don't think I'd ever seen the alphabet before.

And it's, yeah, no. It gets better. So I confront him directly. I, I find him I call Georgian journalists and I'm like, I want everything on this guy. And I know because I grew up in Georgia and I was born there.

I know a lot of journalists in Georgia. So I call him up and I say, I want a very single detail on this guy because he's a part of my investigation. And I just realized that there are NATO trolls that contract Ukrainian company, which is again all documented. And seems like they also work with Georgian trolls and I need to know everything. So they gave me everything.

And I directly confronted the guy, wrote him, I said, I know what you're doing. And I will get to Georgia and deal with you myself. Guess what happens? Ryan Mauro Panics.

“And takes a Ukrainian mercenary on a post telling me, what did you say would happen to Georgians?”

Question mark. So meaning he's Georgians, he's Georgian trolls, and he takes and you train in mercenary accused of war crimes. How does Ryan Mauro know a Ukrainian mercenary accused of war crimes? Does he live in like Arlington or something? This is bizarre.

This is what's happening, Tucker. I have all the evidence for it. And he takes it and I immediately, when he did that, I re-teched his post and takes J. Defense on it. And I said, vice president, an active attack on a journalist, American journalist, using Ukraine and mercenary in Georgian trolls,

by another American from Florida. He panicked when I tagged the vice president on it. He panicked because they don't like it. They hate it for some reason. So he panics and he writes me something like this. They hate J. Dyer, certainly.

They hate J. Defense because I will give you like a post that I print of the same people. Treshing him, they call him rotten brain, brain, diarrhea, something, I mean horrible stuff. So here, just so that you know, I'm talking the truth. This is what he wrote and tagged the guy on. The Ukrainian mercenary, okay?

So as you can see, that's exactly the Georgian is mentioned right there. So as soon as I tagged J. Defense on it, he panics and he re-corrects himself and says,

I was like, Ryan, ten minutes ago, there were no Georgian trolls. Are you admitting you work with them?"

So Moro is part of this much larger network. Yeah, he's a tiny piece, but yes. He's a tiny piece, he I just happened to know who's the most beautiful. I've never heard of. And the hate J. D. Vance, you said they're afraid of J. D. Vance.

And you see that as a coordinated message across all these different networks. Yes. Any idea why?

“Because he's not a globalist, that's why.”

That's why. Yeah. That is the threat. It's not about Israel or the Ukraine war, Charlie Kirk's murder individually. It's a whole world view.

And if you're against control of the world by all Georgians who hate Christianity, then you're not on the team and you must be destroyed. Exactly.

And they always, they have these operatives that like fake Christians.

They will always like commentators. Oh, yeah. Like they will come at you with Bible verses and stuff like that. And at the same time, they operate trolls that put up my fellow journalists dead brother and said your brother is in hell online.

The same people who come at you with Bible verses. They celebrate Zelensky and Smotrich. I mean Zelensky put priests and nuns in jail and raided churches and closed monasteries and banned the country's largest Christian denomination. That's the fact that just happened.

I mean, it's happening now. How could Christians support that? How could Christians support these really government, which murdering Christians and Lebanon,

“the only Middle Eastern country or the Christian president?”

Like it's so not what I would have expected. They also bombed Jewish synagogue. Right. So I mean, this is why I don't believe that they believe any of this. Like they are not religious in reality.

They serve much darker forces. And they just want everyone that's a believer or believes in whatever God destroyed. I think that's right.

And they clearly, just to zoom out for one second.

I mean, clearly, if you connect to all of this stuff, all the war since 9/11, 9/11 itself, the thread that connects to all of it is the destruction of the United States. It's obvious to me that you couldn't push the President of the United States into a war that we cannot win. That best case scenario eliminates dollar dominance globally.

And Hikes Energy prices to a point where people starve to death in Africa and go broke in the United States. Like you couldn't do that if you were supporting the U.S. Like this seems like an effort to wreck the United States. That's what it seems like to me. It's an effort to take United States out. Do you think that?

Yes, yes, everything that I investigated suggests just that. They want to take the United States out. It used to be a cash cow. And they know that the United States will no longer kins a stain to be a cash cow.

So they want it out of the game completely. That's exactly where we are. I wouldn't believe that five years ago, but it's so obvious if you ignore what they say and watch what they do,

“which is the only way to understand anything.”

I think you're right. The United States has reached the end of its useful life as a host. Can I dig a little more? And that's very dangerous for people for like us. Who leave here?

I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I just, you've thought of this. That's what I've been doing for the last two months.

Like all I do is I believe this network is extremely important. I know people think it's hard to track them down. And I know that people have this idea. I told you like people have this idea that they want. They've infiltrated the United States.

They have people in the highest positions. Obviously, when Ukraine says to our military, we'll pay you and above that you can get rides and flights with the Secretary of State. Yeah, they do have people in the highest position. Otherwise, they cannot state things like that.

Right. So, but the previous administration is open as the borders to the world. Yes. Keeps the welfare state in place. Yes.

Completely bankrupts the country. Oh, it's not bankrupt enough. How about another war for Israel that you literally cannot win. That just disarms you. We can't continue the Iran War because we have no more defensive.

Our stock of defensive missiles is so low. Exactly. So, what are you watching here? Are you watching a country being bankrupted? Destroyed totally chaotic domestically because of mass migration.

These are not dumb people.

Like they know what they're doing, right? They know exactly what they're doing.

“And that's why most operatives that I just need to you,”

that are doing this. And again, you looked at it already yourself. You don't know. That's the crazy part. Most people that are working on these levels.

You have no idea who they are. And that is the key. But I said this before. If you want to get to the king, start with a drug dealer in the streets.

And he will lead you to the mafia boss. And that's what I did here. I was like, okay. Why is this person attacking like Tucker?

Can't this be what's going on here?

Then he led me to another one, then another one. Then all of a sudden, he led me to a real face. A propaganda is that's attacking me. His friends are calling me, well, we know what the deal with this guy is. Let me let us educate you.

And all these like layers just all of a sudden got uncovered. It's not that hard. It's not that hard for all of these pieces. And they will lead you to the center. Yeah.

It's it's horror. It's horrifying. It is. And it also means I should say, because I care. It means the destruction of Europe.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, like Europe is a. Europe with Russia is a threat to these people.

Yeah. Because if Europe is thriving with Russian cheap energy, then they don't have the control. You can't control people who have nothing. You know, like, you have nothing to be afraid of.

Right. Right. Like you can control people who are well off. They don't. They are not afraid to lose their jobs.

They are not afraid for like any threats. You can control them.

“The only way you can control them is to put them in the state of Ukraine.”

Like Ukraine is today. It's a country without rules without. I mean, they are operating these trolls. And domestically, people who are allowing it are not afraid. They laugh at the FBI.

What? You're going to erase some Ukrainian troll. Good luck with that. I love the word Ukrainian, though. I mean, it makes it sound like your average Ukrainian, like the Ukrainian people.

Or it's like the Russian revolution. We were taught the Russians, you know, overthrew the Zard, destroyed the monarchy. No Russians involved. And it doesn't seem like there are any Ukrainians involved in this. It seems like outsiders, people who are not in any meaningful way Ukrainian.

Not at all. And the Ukrainian self is being totally destroyed. Yes. They are dragging people of the streets and putting in the, you know, in the vents to send them off to the front lines. So usually Ukrainians must die, so the globalists can get their states.

That's what's going on. That's what's going on. How obvious is that to the rest of the world do you think? Not obvious, obviously not enough. Yeah.

Sorry, interrupted. No, no, no. It's a, your explanation. I just was keeping thinking like, what's the point of what could possibly be the point of destroying global energy supplies? Okay.

What, what are you doing? Yeah, I mean, you're clearly doing something. And it's not about the Iranian nuclear program and it's not about, you know, the oblasts in Eastern Ukraine. It's definitely not about that.

“Well, you remember what the globalists agenda, how well do you know these globalists?”

Do you know them? Do you know what they're saying?

around these people, but I never took seriously or seriously enough like the you know and you would see these reports from the W-E-F conference.

And you'd be like this sounds a little nutty really like Clio Schwab if you're met Clio Schwab he's like this. Belgerly kind of semisey. It's just sad person. He's not running anything and I just thought oh it's overstated people being paranoid. And now I guess I don't feel that way is it's all becoming real. It is all becoming real and I think they took the ad because we started ignoring this and I'll hit the look at Clio Schwab. What an old like here. Exactly.

Well, that ignorance of ours, mine too, got us here where they're actually controlling NATO today and are doing this kind of stuff that we've never heard of. And that American tax dollars are going to propagate foreign propaganda in my country. And the first amendment is basically gone in real life. You don't have freedom of speech, obviously, in this country. And the second amendment, can you really defend yourself? No, not that I can tell.

No. And there are more freedoms or go on. Go on. So like I said, I believe that, you know, we are right now wrestling with these people at the edge of the cliff. And it's not that they are ahead of us or, you know, we are ahead of them. No, we are wrestling at the edge of the cliff.

And one was Wilco over. And what decides that is how fast we wake up to things like this. So what started as a completely innocent whatever trolls, completely innocent troll doesn't exist.

Like a few years ago, many of them in integrity initiative, NATO's 2019 deal.

“And all of a sudden, we have Ukrainian company reaching out to our former special forces saying, you have to spread propaganda for us.”

And if you don't, we will get you fired. What started innocently, let to that? Can you just go through a list? Because we can't know anybody's true motive. Most people don't even understand their own motives, like you know ourselves as well. But we can look at their behavior and then make inferences, judgments on the basis of it.

So they're attacking anyone who is in for continuing the Ukraine, they're attacking anyone. Is everyone that's on the war? Everyone, it doesn't matter if it's Ukrainian war. So they attacked everyone with Ukrainian war, Iran war, any war. If you're on the war, you will get attacked by these people. That's guaranteed. If you've got questions about Charlie Kirk's murder, 100% they are most vicious about that.

I think that's just the weirdest thing I've ever heard.

And I'll leave it to others to figure out why, but I think that's just amazing and very freaking revealing.

Like what? If I'm them, if I'm running an op-on behalf of Zelensky, I'd be like, yeah, let's take a pass on like some domestic story in the United States. It's got nothing to do with us whatsoever.

“That would be my take, like why money are mission with that? What does that have to do with anything?”

One of these is not like the others. That's the one. That is bizarre, but you're positive that's true. That is true, absolutely. It's probably true. Probably true. I think you've already proved it. So war, Charlie Kirk, Jenny Vance. Jenny Vance.

What about Trump? Oh, they are taking Trump. This is the door, yes. So with Trump, they are much smarter than on Trump. Again, if anyone wants, I can provide ton of screenshots and evidence, this is all I did. So I've noticed that every single time, Trump's go-go-zo-frails and kind of detaches from their agenda and goes back to Maga.

Like, for example, let's make a deal with Iran, let's make this, let's make the slander starts. Like, yes, the bigger ones, you saw what Lara Lumer did. What did he took from side? No, he did. She didn't. I didn't actually see what that was.

Yeah, so good for you. I didn't know I should pay attention, but these people who are- But what did that person do? Well, they, they, they, they trashed Trump, they criticized Trump, like, for what?

“Not recently when the first deal happened. Remember, like, when, um, what was it?”

I forget the date, but the first time we actually made the piece suggestion with Iran.

Oh, but in the last year, you know, trashed Trump? Yes, exactly. And then later, it was, again, the same propaganda is the same people. I remember you had to show about it when you said we didn't even consult with Israel. And that infuriated him, that this people. Really? Yes.

Again, documentedly, they went completely off rails, attacking everyone, including Trump, JD, and they called JD the worst negotiator or a good negotiator of some sort. Yes, and they were upset that JD events, by the way, these Georgian troll as well. The Georgian one that I found has no beef with vice prisoners of the United States. Yet he's pushing out things like, why are we standing JD events anywhere?

We? Yes. We aren't too pleased he's done. Shut up. He's like, "Wow." Exactly.

So again, documentally, I have the face of the guy I know who he works for, and you will be surprised, or maybe not, to know that he works for an American company, private company, for the person that used to be part of the same nonprofits. Yes. And let's really through the revolution.

I'm not surprised at all. Yes. Who do they like? They like Marco Rubio. They do.

Yeah. Marco's going to be, I don't know about Marco. I don't know him personally. So I'm not going to sit here criticize or praise him. I just want to know what this network of propaganda is.

And it's literally a network of coordinated, obviously. They love Marco so much that they want to deport me as an agent, Tucker, and they take Marco. Every time they want to deport me, they go with Marco Rubio. Hey, Marco Rubio, can you just deport Elizabeth Lange?

She's a Russian agent. Are you true in American citizens? I am. And I've been American citizen for a long time now, but they want to deport me anyway. I guess I'm, I'm ruffling feathers.

Oh, yes. I don't know if you got my.

“But these people, the people you've described,”

love Marco Rubio. They do.

They always praise Marco.

They never go after him. And they always tag him on everything. Yeah. They, they are very scared. And this is a fear.

I can say this was full responsibility. They are scared of jade events. And exposing themselves to jade events. They never tag him on anything. But they attack him all the time.

They have campaigns over attacks. And I want to say something about this Michael Ways guy because he ties in to him. Michael Ways. Why, why? Vix Cruz may have my sense of view.

You're doing well. You better not be like, "You guys speak one." So. Thank you. So Michael Ways, he's a very interesting figure.

And this is how all of it ties in. Is it journalist? I don't, I don't know who Michael Ways is. You know, he's supposed to be a journalist. He's like an, is he an award winning journalist?

Like, you know, I, I am not looking to kiss a award. You got to assume guys like that. Yeah, right. Well, his friend does. You know who, who his friend is?

Peter Pomeranza from this famous board that we started with. Oh, yes. So Michael Ways and Peter Pomeranza. Author the piece together. That became NATO's state straight comes like,

and Atlante consoles like a doctrine piece on Russia. Seriously. Seriously. They, after the piece together. Own Russia and the information or something like that.

They think they own Russia. I've noticed. Yeah, they do.

They, they are always the ones that organizations like NATO.

And others always like kind of, you know, address to comment on Russia and stuff like that. Which is very, I just don't get it. I don't understand it because they know nothing about Russia really. So.

But there's a sense of entitlement like Russia's hours.

“And it's fallen into alien hands or it's like, what?”

You could. Yeah. You're from, you're not from Russia. Like, what are you talking about? None of them are.

Yeah. But do you, do you feel that? I mean, there's an emotional intensity. That suggests ownership. Lost owners like it's been stolen from them.

Very true. I understand why. I understand why. We are just thing I've ever seen. I don't feel the way about any country,

including ones by ancestors came from. I just like, okay, it's her country. I don't want my country to be taken. However, I want to lose my first and second amendments. Right.

You know? Yeah. No, I agree with you. And it is. I don't know.

Why they feel like they, they own Russia or they should own Russia. But they do, like I said, Peter Pomeransov came in front of our senate saying, "We should do something about Russians like Putin." [laughs] I'm like, are you serious?

Why should you do anything about that? Can you just move on? You can't be serious. You can't be serious. Yeah.

And this is like before there was no conflict or anything. Like, it's not even your country. Leave dude. You chose British citizenship. Go live in Britain.

Yeah, they will. They don't care about countries. So that's interesting. Yeah. Really interesting.

And so Michael Weiss wrote a piece with him that is now used in effect as doctor and by NATO. Yeah. But by athletic counsel and NATO, so this is a famous piece. I urge everyone to look up because they partnered up on this. And this connection was big for me because I didn't know.

I knew that Michael Weiss was trusting Jay-Divance, wrote an article about me.

And always like Maga-trashing comes from this guy a lot.

But here's an interesting part. Please follow this story. Michael Weiss is constantly reshared by this Georgian troll I found constantly. Tucker, you know a lot at this point about Georgia. But trust me when I tell you, no one in Georgian knows who Michael Weiss is.

Why did you know he was, right? Why is a Georgian troll or influence or whatever reshared.

“Michael Weiss articles like like almost, it's his job for the engagement, right?”

For Michael Weiss to be constantly, he's one of them. They got thousands like that. So the point is this operative, these people have reshared each other to boost each other, right? So this Georgian troll constantly shares Michael Weiss so that Michael Weiss is boosted all the time. And there's thousands like him Ukrainian troll Georgian trolls all of this.

So no one in Georgian knows who these guys. I didn't know who these guys until I started investigating. And all of a sudden I find this Georgian that is obsessed with Michael. This same Georgian reshared Ryan Mauro. What is Michael Weiss drew for a living to see a job somewhere?

Yeah, he's a journalist, the insider. The insider. Yes, this where he trashes Maga and wrote an article about me, but it gets better talker.

Yes. So Ryan was writing a hit piece on me. And he's asking questions about it.

“He's asking me about these special ops guide that I had on my show.”

Like I had him on my show with the Navy seal. So Russian special ops guide was on my show with the Russian, sorry American Navy seal. And the idea of the show was I want to bring two military people on the opposite side together. No politics, I told them both. We're not going to talk about politics.

I want you to just see each other as normal people. Two special ops guys discussing life. It was one of the best shows ever.

They started talking about their previous wives and how, like, you know, it's always the second or third wife with these people because of their job.

Of course. I mean, it was the funniest thing ever. Like Jay loved him, Dima loved Jay. And they were like, will send you gifts. Like this is how the show ended.

Okay. How the world could work actually if it weren't for people like Ryan Mauro, but yeah. So true. And so Ryan wants to write a hit piece about me that I had Russian special ops on my show. How dare I?

Okay. So he asks me about this. And I engage him because he's stupid enough to give me all this information. So I told him what the show was, all of this.

“So we're back and forth, back and forth.”

Then Ryan stops. The day Michael wise drops that article then Ryan gathered for him. I keep you not. Really? Yes.

I have screenshots of the conversation Ryan sending me Dima's pictures asking how it happened.

What happened all of that next week. Michael wise on the insider drops an article. How bugger influencer me. Mugger influencer that invited Tucker Carlson, that's a jibbonew. And interviewed Candice Owens, that's a jibbon Candice.

He had a Russian Spetsna's officer. And was dating a Russian completely different person, not this guy. He was dating a Russian. So the idea is that it's a Russian ring going on. Yeah.

But I just want to say for the record that I don't. I don't understand why we're at war with Russia. I didn't want to go to war with Russia. I'm not against Russia. I don't know any Americans who are who want to be at war with Russia.

Like none of this happened with reference to what people who live here want. Exactly. This is like a tiny group of people decided that they own Russia somehow. You use our military and our money to break up Russian. Very strong.

I think nobody wants that. I don't want that. I'm not at war with Russia. I'm not an enemy of Russia.

I'm never going to play along with this.

I don't. I mean, we're so far down the road. We're 10 years down the road. Into this rush is the enemy thing. And I'm just never going to participate in it.

Why would I? Yeah. And what I don't understand is why Ryan Mauro, who doesn't work for the insider, or Michael Wise at all, they should not even know each other, gets an article ready, sends it to Michael,

so that Michael can put it in a bigger outlet like insider. That's what I don't understand. And by the way, if anyone still doubts he was Ryan, like I said, I have all the proof that it was. And the second it drops, the second the article drops Tucker.

Ryan's message comes through. Not the best day for you is it. Yeah, these are mean people. I was like, Ryan, if you think that me having a Russian special ops, and you're putting it on an insider, somehow scares me or intimidates me.

You're very wrong. You're from Georgia.

“So how weird does it have a Russian boyfriend once in a while?”

Is that really weird? You know, he was great. You said, we don't have anything inside. Like the specifics of your relationship. Yes.

Isn't Georgia right near Russia? That's what I had heard. So it's right there. Right there. We have the Russians in there too.

Right. And you speak Russian because you grew up speaking Russian. Absolutely. Like most Georgians. Yes.

So is it super crazy to date a Russian? No, not at all actually. And if you go to Georgia today and do to war. There are a ton of Russians. Like literally in every corner, you hear Russian language or do to war all the time.

Because the only non-singian country around is Georgia. So they can use their internet and so on. But they're mad at you because you dated a Russian. Yeah, they're mad at me because I dated a Russian. By the way, openly, how long have you known that?

See, see, see, the day I met you. You knew that I dated Russian because I just speak about it without any problems. Yeah, you said you liked them. That's okay. That doesn't bother me.

Yeah. But again, even though he's he's in past right now. But it's not that. I mean, I'm okay with that. They can call me whatever the heck they want.

They literally accuse our former special of the guy. His green berets and navy seals of being Russian agents.

I'm on her too. That's all I have to say. I like they accuse me of being a Russian agent. Yeah. And I have no connection to Russian all of them.

I think it's the coolest country I've ever been to. And I've been to most countries. So that's a high compliment to Russia, but it doesn't.

“But ultimately for the United States, that's why I'm against funding a war against Russia.”

It crushes us and it has crushed us. Yeah. So they like I just want to make sure I got through the list. They like Rubio. They love anyone else.

Lindsey Graham was their favorite always.

In fact, when Lindsey Graham died, it was Richard Stone was the one who posted something really bad and Ryan just lashed out on him. And I was like, what are you doing, dude? Like, what are you doing?

Why are you going after people that are posting their opinions about Lindsey Graham? Who are you? Why are you? Lindsey's little defender. That's all very weird.

There are reasons. I don't. So they like Lindsey. They like Marco Rubio, basically same. Yes.

Same person. Um. They hate JD. They with Trump.

“It's a cold and hard depending on if Trump is citing design.”

They have nothing to say. By the way, they won't say anything good about Trump. Uh, so they just stop. If Trump is on the right path, they just, it's like a line. Right.

But if he goes off the path, I can send you like at least 20 plus something, screenshots of, through them treaching. Trump completely. Do they like anyone else?

Four leaders. They like Zelenski. Oh, yeah. They love Zelenski. They like Finnish president's stop.

Stop. Very much, which is understandable. By the way, did you know that it was Lindsey Graham who introduced stop in Trump? No.

That's awesome, sad. Yeah. It's a great country. They'll destroy Finland.

Lindsey Graham and stop apparently we're always in contact.

And they are good friends. We're good friends. Well, whenever people like this get involved, your country winds up being heavily African. So that'll happen to Finland because that's part of the program.

You watch. Check the demographics of Finland today. It's like one of the most genetically cohesive countries outside Iceland. In the world. And in 30 years of won't be.

And that's not an accident. That's what they want. 40%. And one more thing, if you allow me to say, so with this propagandist, this Ukrainian and Georgians and this trolls and this NATO

experiment of 2019 and all that to put together. So I said, they are used. These bought for accounts and this fake accounts are used to amplify then Israeli and big names, right? Like this, you know, the propagandist that are under farer,

that are paid. So they are used to amplify. So it's like a well-working relationship between Ukraine's this company that got hired by NATO in Ukraine and Israeli. So there's like a good collaboration.

Like we have the faces and the big people that are speaking for Ukraine. And you guys have the bots to swarm the comments and change the narratives, right? They had one more thing that was very important.

And you would probably never experience it because you're too big,

but people like me will. So they block, they protect in the hacky integrity initiative. The original hack that we started with. They said, "If someone, like a voice like me or someone who's like saying,

“that they don't like, you need to block this accounts from the accounts we protect."”

So what does that mean? So if they're protecting Marco Rubio, for example, or some accounts that they don't want my voice to reach, they will block accounts like me. I notice that there's a disproportionate number of veterans on the list of

pro-globalist influencers. Yes? Why? I think there's one main reason. Like I said, they need the United States fully under control.

And they've trained people in the United States. That military is without a question respected and whatever they say. If I mean it's not. I don't understand. I mean, I respect the men who died.

Yeah. Including my ancestors who died defending the country or died, and it's worse in any case. But I don't know why I would have to respect Millie. You know what I mean?

Or some buffoon who happens to be chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who uses American lives recklessly. Like why would I have respect for that person? That person's evil. If you're throwing away American lives, I don't respect you.

Why would I? And you shouldn't. I'm glad you said that because I feel the same, but then they will take you as anti-Western and anti-Patriot. So they will call you all kinds of names. But that's just kind of been here too long to be intimidated by that.

Seb Gorka, who's from some foreign countries going to let your me.

Family got the Revolutionary War.

“I don't think I'm going to take a lot of abuse from you.”

Seb Gorka go away back to Budapest, son. That's how I personally feel. So it doesn't work on me. But I, but I also think like if you care about veterans, some of whom are so damaged as you know. Yeah.

We've just talked about this at breakfast. Who damaged them? They're commanding officers did that actually. And the civilian leadership that sent them there did that. I don't, why would I support that?

Yeah. No, but that they know that most Americans have been trained into this thought. That no matter what your military has to be put on a pedestal, you cannot question it. And that goes back to who'd buy something like that. Many people talk her.

Many people like many people do because how dare you have offended our means. Look what happened when Candice said something like don't enlist. Everyone lost their shit. I'm like, she's like the right thing. Like what?

“So I, I will enlist for what to fight for Israel.”

Like are you crazy? Are you crazy? Yeah, would your ancestors be proud of you? No. Of course not, of course not.

Yeah. And one more important thing. And we can end the saga of these trolls with that. So, you know, Charlie Kirk's case was going on like the hearing and stuff. And this is more how like the connection is so clear with these particular story

between the Ukrainian trolls. And the Israeli propaganda is that a friend of yours was here talking about with, you know, Bruce week was his last name? Alex. Alex was talking about.

And he said something. Well, you know, recently he said, I'm not worried about a lot of loomer being one of them. And he should be and I'll explain why. So, I attend Charlie Kirk's court cases. Everyone knows this.

Everyone knows the Elizabeth Lane has been there from day one. Even when Charlie's parents were not there in, you know, or why for anybody. I was there from day one. And this is like before Tyler then got his defense. So, I usually typically attend it.

But this last few hearings, I was there. But last two, I had to miss due to my business meetings with a friend. So, usually I go with girls for other girls. We are all together. And we sit through the hearing to document everything.

So, we don't miss anything, okay? I texted girls they knew I had a business meeting. I said, guys, you're on your own. Tomorrow and day after. So, please document everything.

If something happens, like, so we know.

“And I constantly check with them, like, how are you guys?”

Did you get in? Did you get your wristband? Whatever. Next day, I wake up, Tucker. And the internet is going crazy with my name on it.

I'm like, what's going on? And all of a sudden, I see a lot of loomer resharing stuff. Like, these big names, the big names. She was resharing stuff and they say Elizabeth Lane was at the courtroom and got kicked out. I'm literally sitting at home waking up.

And I'm like, what the heck is happening? So, everyone reshared. A lot of said that I got kicked out, or something similar. Like, got banned, kicked out. And then it started with this Mormon kid.

Like, some kid that no one has heard about. Some new influencer that viciously protects Israel and tip USA and all these people. He's on air saying, oh, they are well aware of Elizabeth Lane's presence, meaning at the court, and they banned her.

Now, English is not my first language, Tucker, but I'm asking you as a pro.

Do I'm pretty well? Oh, thank you. So, I'm asking you as a pro. What does Elizabeth Lane's presence mean? What does that mean?

That I'm there, right? Right, yeah. But I'm not. Yes. So, I'm literally sitting at home about to have a meeting with this friend, business meeting.

And I'm like, what's going on? Some texting the girls. We found out that they spread this lie in case someone wants to understand if these people are propagandists or really fighting Russian disinformation. In case someone wants to know, there's a documented evidence on my ex and not just my ex,

how they are lying that I was at the court, and I got kicked out because I was harassing and we don't. But you weren't there. I was never even there. And documentally, my phone will ring next to my house and the cafe that I had meeting in,

like my phone if they ever want to check. I have two witnesses to say, where I was exactly when this was going on. And I have four girls at the court that walked in alone with all the cameras.

So they can never in million years prove that I was even there.

What's interesting to me about that is like this isn't organized effort. This isn't organized propaganda effort.

which is such a tragedy for people who knew him and loved him.

“What does that have to do with the rest of their agenda?”

I mean, that's like show out of left field that it's just, it's just, it tells you a lot. I wish there was an honest person involved in that effort we could ask. What is this? I don't know. Well, you're paying people to take a specific position in this story.

He just made it up, though Tucker, that's the crazy fact. Like who bakes up a lie like that and gives it to the net work, to distribute it. And Lara Lumer was one of the big accounts, we shared it twice from her own and from Lumer report or unleashed or whatever she has. So she was not the only one. All of these people that I'm talking about, we shared it like a train seals.

And I was like, guys, are you okay? So what happened in my opinion is that they expected me there. They don't know that I was not going, right? They didn't know. So they said, why don't we say that she was at the court, which she would come, right? And God banned.

I don't know why they think it's going to ruin my reputation or whatever. Like I will not investigate or something. So God banned or the idea was to really bend to me, right? Like so I was there and someone would really bend me.

“So that I don't know what was their intention to do this stuff.”

I mean, it's really insane. It's insane.

It's if I said Tucker Carlson got bent from a concert you've never been to.

Like what? So that's exactly what they did. And then we thought about it. Me and the girls we said and we were like, maybe they wanted to scare you. So the last day when they knew that video would not be shown to the public.

Like I was the only biggest creator that was independent in the court. Rest of them were invited by T.P. USA. So Graham Owens and Ben Ben, sorry, Benny Johnson's. These are all their people. So I was the only biggest creator that was invited, not invited,

but there was in court without invitation. And the other girls were very little creator, small creator. So they didn't have the voice. And we thought that they just wanted to kick me out. So I wouldn't say what I saw.

Who I never talked about this, but you brought it up a couple times, Luma.

What is that? I mean, what is the point of that operation? Whatever that is. You would be happy to know that a lot of Luma who swears to be president's Trump's biggest supporter reshires Michael Lys.

And I have this screenshot to prove it. reshires Michael Wase's hacking drone. I don't know whether it was Trump or definitely reshires Michael Lys. Because Michael Wase and his opinions. And which I don't understand, because Michael Wase is anti-maga.

And he was always on the liberal side of things. So I don't understand why would Latter Luma even reshare any of the others. All these people on the liberal side of things. Every single one. Right.

I mean, that's what liberalism is. It's a world view that, you know, it's an effort to destroy the West. Of course it's worked. And but that's where it came from. Same people.

Yeah. Of course they're all liberals. I'm not a liberal. Yes.

“That's why they're always calling your name as you're not a liberal.”

Not once. I have reshared Mark Levine in a positive light. Not once. So yeah. So why would anyone do that when they claim to be Maga?

Why would they reshare people like Mauro, which she has done this? And what's her agenda do you think? I think Latter Luma is someone who directly works for Zionist globalist. So Zionist Slash, I should say globalist because they are the same thing. They are the same thing.

Globalist Kabbal and she will do whatever they tell her to do, including come after you, or candies, or whoever. Migan Kelly, who did nothing. She did nothing. I don't know why they are going so hard on Migan.

And she was just like, can you just keep me out of it? And they were like, no, we won't. What is that? What that is a really, I mean, I've seen this with a lot of people, but Migan Kelly is the most obvious and most famous example of it,

but Migan did not seek these fights at all. And said it, exactly. I keep, I'm not, you know, I've got other things I'm interested in, but they wouldn't allow her to be neutral. And they tried to destroy her.

I mean, they really tried to destroy her. Like it was unbelievable what they did to her. Why? Because you're not allowed to be neutral. Again, their main goal they say is to fight Russian disinformation.

Okay, that's how they go around. Even design is like Russia, Russia, Russia. You're so lumer. Oh, it's Iran, Russia, Iran, Russia.

like I have, they don't fight Russian disinformation.

“How many propaganda this Russia has, like real propaganda is that they pay to their plenty.”

None of them go after them. They go after independent journalists because it's not about fighting Russian disinformation. It's about killing absolutely innocent and right voices. That's what they do. Right, because they hate the truth above all.

They hate the truth. Yeah. Yeah. So are you going to continue doing this? 100%.

Can I say that's why? It's a good question.

I cannot give you like a specific answer.

What I know is that I try to get out of this. Like I try to leave and you know, do something different.

“That wouldn't, wouldn't require me to be in front of all these attacks and stuff.”

And I couldn't. I wake up every day with a bigger force than me saying this is your purpose. You need to continue and no matter. Terrible things will come. Just know.

And I spoke to my person. He said the same thing. Like, you know, that more attacks will come after this, especially. That's for sure. Yeah.

So I said, like, bring it on.

That's all I can say. Like, why do you do it? Why do you do it, Tucker? I'm not afraid at all. I'm not even a tiny bit.

I don't know why. But because it's true.

“And I think it's important to tell the truth or try.”

You know, knowing you're going to screw it up and, you know, say things that are not true. And then you correct yourself and keep going. But just like make a good faith effort to tell the truth. I think that's like the ticket price to self respect and happiness. Right.

It's bigger than that, isn't it, though? It's bigger than that. That's something wakes you up in the morning with that soul that you have to continue doing what Tucker Carlson does. And that's like coming from a bigger force.

Well, I certainly believe that. I certainly believe that. Yeah, protected in some eternal sense. Yes. Yeah.

Maybe not in this life. That's okay. Let's be playing. Thank you. That was, I worried that that would be too confusing.

But it wasn't confusing. Are you sure? I'm positive. And you described it so well. Thank you.

Thank you. This is so important, Tucker. Like, this should be investigated by Congress. Like, you know, the fricking church committee was. No, I know.

It's absolutely crazy. It's absolutely crazy. Yeah. I was thinking the church committee last night, actually. It was thinking I grew up hearing.

The church committee was so bad. I can't believe it. Speaking of propaganda. Anyway. Yeah.

I'm like, excuse me. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. (upbeat music)