BREAKING: Netanyahu’s Terror Attack on Lebanon Destroys Trump’s Ceasefire. Tucker Reacts.

out a truth post his version of Twitter in which he announced a ceasefire with Iran. Here's exactly what he said. This would be one hour and 28 minutes before the total destruction of Iran that he'd been promising the use of the implied use of nuclear weapons or some other weapon, a mass destruction

of weapon powerful enough to eliminate an entire country in one night, as he said.

“So that's what people were expecting to see.”

That's what he'd promised to deliver and instead this statement. Subjects to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the complete immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz. I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks. We've already met and exceeded all military objectives and are very far along with the definitive

agreement concerning long-term peace with Iran and peace in the Middle East. We received a 10-point proposal from Iran and believed as a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the U.S. and Iran.

But a two-week period will allow the agreement to be finalized and consummated.

On behalf of the United States of America as president, and also representing the countries of the Middle East, it's an honor to have this long-term problem close to resolution.

“Well, amen, cold water on a hot day of the nation, the world breathes a sigh or relief.”

And particularly, please, for people who have fought in previous wars, people in the GWT generation, people who are conspicuously absent from the Fox News analysis of this war, people know it is to fight wars. Because one of the things that people who fight wars, you see them up close, learn, is that almost anything is better than war.

Even a step back or a step down, even giving up something you want, well, bitter, is better than total war, because there is nothing worse in this life than total war. And that's a generational lesson, every generation that experiences total war, learns that lesson. And so the most eloquent writing about why war is bad is written by people who have seen

it and experienced it. Every big war produces in a generation of writers calling for no more wars. And then, predictably inevitably, cyclically, the next generation forgets that lesson,

“maybe the key lesson of existence, and the cycle of wars continues.”

So last night, seemed like a victory for the United States, even though it was strictly speaking probably a lost on the President and explained what's in this 10-point plan, this proposed agreement that he'd received from the government of Iran. But we know roughly what was in it, there are a bunch of versions of it floating around or they real, a 10-point, 15-point, it's impossible to know.

But the big picture points are no.

And first among them is the current government of Iran will stay in power.

That's the first point. So regime change did not work, everyone admits that now, including these really government with whom we're embarked on this adventure. Everyone understands that there is no way to dislodge the current government's short of nuclear weapons.

And so when this ends, whenever it does, the regime, the Ayatollas, the terror regime, as they say, and Fox News, will be in place. And that's not a win, that's a loss. He was military bases in the region have been destroyed, certainly badly damaged. From some of the military, US military personnel have withdrawn, retreated.

That's not good. That's not a display of power, that's a display of weakness. So there's no way to spend that, that's a loss. This war has cost hundreds of billions of dollars of US dollars, taxpayer dollars. That money comes from debt, from selling our debt or treasuries to other countries.

So that's a loss, that's a big loss, commodities prices have risen. Not as dramatically as they might if this were to continue, but they've risen a lot. That's a loss. That's a tax on people who buy things in the United States. And then of course, Americans have been killed.

It's not clear how many, because there's an off-out of lying about it, but it's a substantial number, more than a dozen, and maybe much more than that. We don't know yet, we will know at some point. So Americans have died, America's gotten poorer, America has become weaker demonstrably. We can't open the straight oformous, which is the overriding objective of this, where

we can't do it by force. That's been proven. And the regime that we described as illegitimate, this crazed theocracy, the Stone Age

So again, those are losses, just objectively.

“And yet, and here's the point, a ceasefire would still be a win for the United States, because”

war, total war is just that bad. It's so bad that even absorbing some humiliation and some measurable losses is still better than that. And most people understand that intuitively. You don't need to be ideological or interested in geopolitics to understand that Americans

getting killed, the country going bankrupt, commodity prices, wrecking the global economy, the uncertainty itself is a cost. You don't know what the future holds. You can't plan for it. All of this is much worse than what we be getting with an agreement that diminishes

of some extent, because it's very obvious we could be still further diminished and further

wounded by this. So that was the state of play at 632, the president announces what is objectively speaking,

“not a win, and yet most reasonable people accept it as a win, because relatively speaking,”

that's a win. A ceasefire is a good thing. And anyone who doesn't think it's a good thing has to explain why it would be in America's interest, the tangible interest of the United States, to continue this to what objective, what is the goal known as ever really explained what that is, to great Iran changed the

regime. What does that mean? Open this trade of our moves. How? Tell us how?

There's a one person in the Pentagon who can figure out how to do it. These people wage war for a living, not all of them are stupid, so in them are pretty smart. They can't figure out how to do it. Of course, they would have done it already.

What's your plan? Well, there's no plan, of course. So anyone who opposes the ceasefire is not an ally of the United States, but an opponent of American interests, maybe even an enemy. So with that in mind, it's worth assessing what happened to the piecefire.

Well, it seemed to last a very, very short time. Now, not a name known as saying there's no peacefire, ceasefire, but certainly in practice, because very shortly within hours of the President announcing this Israel are unmentioned partner in this war, decided to bomb civilians in Beirut, Lebanon. Bomb civilians, apartment blocks.

It's not anti-Israeli hyperbally that's on blood libel that is measureably true, because there's video of it, a lot of it, because Beirut is one of the greatest and most civilized cities on the planet. It's not Yemen. Lots of people have been to Beirut, Beirut is also, by the way, the capital of the only

country in the Middle East, whose President is a Christian.

The President of Lebanon has always been a Christian since the founding of the country, over

a hundred years. So in some basic sense, this is a Christian country, certainly a Christian-led country, and it's not a primitive country. It's probably one of the top three most beautiful places in the world, but it's also one of the most civilized places in the world, and for many years, the southern portions

of the country have been controlled or at least influenced by a Shiite militia group, which has become, in effect, the government of those parts of the country called Hezbollah. You've heard of Hezbollah, I think the US Congress has declared a terror organization. No one's defending Hezbollah, but Hezbollah's main thing to know about Hezbollah is that

“they are sworn opponents of Israel, and that's why you know their name.”

Why it's not just a regional problem in the Levant for you, it is an ever-present slogan that people are shouting you all the time, "Hezbollah, they're bad." But why are they edible? They're against Israel. That's why.

They're also the people, apparently, who perpetrated the 1983 barracks bombing against U.S. Marines and killed almost 300 American Marines. The United States was in Lebanon, at the time, why was the U.S. there? Well, because Israel had invaded Lebanon, and so the Reagan administration in response to what Israel did, decided to get involved on behalf of our closest ally, and almost

300 American Marines were murdered by Hezbollah. Blaming Israel for that, apparently, they had advanced knowledge of it. That's pretty clear, it's been documented, but Hezbollah did it, they did it, not Israel. But we were there because of our alliance with Israel. So, Hezbollah has, for many years, been active in the southern parts of the country, south

for Israel.

But they root, it's a separate question, they root as a Mediterranean city that is not controlled

by Hezbollah. In fact, it's filled with Christians. They define the life of they root, they may not be the majority, but they're in charge, and they certainly have defined it culturally. And Israel is bombing apartment blocks in Bay Route Lebanon.

The name of the military operation was, a turtle darkness. Israel named this operation, killing hundreds of civilians in Lebanon, mostly in Bay Route,

“a turtle darkness, because, like, why even pretend anymore?”

The turtle darkness, by the way, is mentioned extensively in the New Testament. It's a euphemism for hell. And that's exactly what Israel brought to Christians in Lebanon today. I'll see you in the next video, I'll see you in the next video, I'll see you in the next video. I'll see you in the next video, I'll see you in the next video, I'll see you in the next video.

Looking a little bit like Gaza, and of course, that's the point of operation eternal darkness. But what does it look like on the ground? Again, these are civilians who are murdered by the Israeli military using American weapons and American tax dollars to do it in order to stop a ceasefire that the American president happily announced to the great relief of the American people.

All of it stopped by operation eternal darkness, targeting civilians.

“But if you were a civilian on the ground in Bay Route, what did it look like?”

Well, we have this video, which is distressing. This is a little Lebanese girl walking out on a sunny day with her father in a residential neighborhood in Bay Route when the Israelis come in and level the city.

Here's what it looked like.

It's not that looks, hey, you're not at all. [Music] Operation eternal darkness. That's for sure. So the net effect was to end the ceasefire. Again, it hasn't been announced, but the streets where moves are closed once again, not open, totally closed apparently. And these Israelis are continuing to blow up Christians, murder Christians, and other civilians in Lebanon.

So this afternoon, the administration announced, well, there's been some confusion here, an agreement that Israel would stop destroying Lebanon was not part of the agreement with Iran. And so clearly, they thought it was, they thought somehow the United States would get Israel under control as its patron.

We never promised to do that. So this is all mistake, and we'd love to negotiate.

The terms, but exclusive of Israel's behavior, Israel's going to do what it's going to do. And you know, they may kill more little girls in Bay Route, but that has nothing to do with the bilateral we'd like to have with you. The race is a couple really interesting questions that need to be resolved before we can fix this and fix our country.

“And the first is, why would you ever go into a war with another country when you don't have a line to interest?”

Well, you know, have the same goals. Israel is a whole separate goal from ours. Israel would like to leave Iran, a husk, a civil war between various ethnic groups, just a bleeding wound. And therefore permanently weekend, they don't want to coherent nation state in Iran, because that wouldn't help them. The United States, of course, doesn't want that, because you can't open the straights of where it moves, unless you have someone in charge of the territory of Iran, because then pirates will close it.

And anyone with mines or drones can close the straight. You need a central government in Tehran to keep the straight open. And the United States, being, of course, subject to international commodity prices like everybody else,

The United States would in there with goals that weren't exactly clear.

I don't know, somehow ending the nuclear program, because it's such a threat, even though he was intelligence head repeatedly concluded that it was not an imminent threat. They didn't have a nuclear weapon. They didn't have ICBMs, just didn't exist. It was the WMD story from 2002, Redux. But the idea was to apparently push, brush them back a little bit and let them know that you can't do anything crazy in the region. That's not Israel's goal.

So the first mistake was lashing ourselves to another country with separate goals.

“But more immediately, the mistake would be, if you want to wrap this up with a ceasefire and a peace agreement,”

you would of course tell Israel to get on board, because Israel is a tiny insignificant country with an infinitesimal population and economy that only exists because you protect it and pay for everything. Israel is your client states.

This is like taking orders from your housekeeper, which you would never do. Why would you do that if you had self-respect?

So the first thing you would do, if you were sitting down to come to terms with your opponent, this big country Iran that you haven't been able to beat militarily, would be to tell Israel, hey, we're doing for peace, we're going to get this done, you knock it off. But the U.S. didn't do that. The administration did not do that. In fact, apparently, according to the Israelis, they never even consulted Benjamin Netanyahu. They did not tell him that we are right in the cusp of ceasefire talks. Why? Because they were worried that he would do what he did with operational, eternal darkness, operation hell, and scuttle the whole thing.

By doing something crazy, like bombing apartment buildings in Bay Route Lebanon. So apparently, getting Israel under control to the United States could save its economy in the lives of its troops was not even on the table.

“Like the one thing we know we're not going to do is tell these Israelis to behave. And that's why there is in practical terms, in effect, if not name, no ceasefire right now.”

The one that everybody in the United States desperately wants. So the question is, and it is the question, unfortunately, why can't the United States get its proxy, its client state?

It's effectively its employee Israel under control. Why is that the one thing that's never on the table?

That's the question. It's the question that Joe Kent, one of the top U.S. intel officials asked when he resigned a few weeks ago. We got into this war at the urging of another country Israel. The war did not go well. Now we can't get out of the war because the behavior of that same country Israel. Why? Why can't this President or any President say no to Israel? And we have a right to know why. It's not just because we love Israel and it's the only democracy in the Middle East. And if it is, then our leaders are dumber than we thought they were, but it's probably not that.

Because they understand perfectly well how bad this is for the U.S. And there are, believe it or not, a lot of people in the White House who care about the United States. People with power in the White House. They're not all, whatever you think they are zombies doing BB's bidding. Some of them can see very clearly where this is heading. It's heading toward a nuclear strike by Israel on Iran. That's obvious. And that would be a world historic disaster. It's also clearly terrible for the American economy for the American people, not even to mention the Americans who will die in numbers if this becomes a land war.

So there are people working really hard, really late trying to fix this to get a piece even one that diminishes us, where we have to take some lumps. They are doing that. That's the only reason we got to where we were yesterday, because people in the White House taking no credit for it whatsoever. We're working to end this because it's bad.

“But those people, predictably, were undercut, our country was undercut by Israel. And there's apparently nothing we can do about it. So again, why is that?”

And once this is over, even before it ends, every American has a right to know why does this tiny country have so much control over our government? Is it consent? It doesn't look like it. Now, Joe Kent said, point blank when he resigned. By the way, the day he resigned, he retained highest level security clearance. They tried to sell you, oh, he was a leaker. He was under investigation was a lie. They admitted it was a lie. He wasn't under investigation by the FBI untrue.

So there's no intelligence in the U.S. government that Joe Kent couldn't see. None. He was one of the most informed people in the world. And his conclusion was there's something weird going on here. And one of the clues is the Butler shooting, shooting in the summer of 2024 during the presidential election, where President Trump was shot in the year by a gunman, a little over a hundred yards away in the roof of a building called Thomas Crooks. And according to Joe Kent, who would know that investigation was closed before it pursued every possible lead.

We can be fairly confident that Thomas Crooks pulled the trigger. We cannot be confident at all that he acted alone.

“And of course, we can't know because that investigation was shut down. That's what he said.”

And Joe Kent, who you can dismiss as a wacko or a trader, but you can't say he doesn't know what he's talking about. And you can't say the Trump administration didn't trust him with all available U.S. intelligence until the day he left. You can't say that because they did. He has said out loud he thinks the failure to investigate the Butler shooting, the shooting of our now president Donald Trump. And why wouldn't they investigate that by the way? That alone is baffling. Why wouldn't they release all the information they have about Thomas Crooks? They haven't. Why?

It was a lone gunman wanted to tell us all you know, but they haven't. Why? He believes that is connected to the control that Israel has over the United States government, the demonstrable control. He said that. He also pointed to a couple of pretty shocking violations of the president's personal security by the Secret Service.

They allowed things to happen that never happened around a president. And maybe they were mistakes. You want to think they were.

But who's been fired at the Secret Service over those mistakes? No one that were aware of. There's not been a wholesale reordering of the Secret Service. Their job is to protect the president, the elected president of the United States. And you do that not because you love the president, but because our entire system hangs on the idea that the people get to choose their president. And he can't be removed by force. That's democracy.

“If you could just take off the president by force, then how is democracy real?”

People choose someone that larger forces don't like and they kill them, then you don't have a democracy. So protecting the life for the president is essential to the functioning of our system. And yet, on at least two occasions, they've proven that they haven't been able to do that. And yet, has there been an investigation to that? Has anyone been fired over that? No. Now, those of us who don't work there have no real idea what that means.

But someone who just worked there until the other day, Joe Kent said, "I think that maybe related to our inability to say no to Israel." Now, maybe Joe Kent's a total wacko, in which case why was he head of the Counterterrorism Center for the Trump Administration? Another question, but let's just say he's a total wacko, but what's the answer?

The facts, the known facts, have never been explained.

And at this point, watching Israel once again, not for the first time, hardly for the first time. Short circuit American diplomacy, the expressed will of the American president elected by the rest of us, to have some foreign country, and I'm million people to say no, exercise veto power over our president, short circuit our interests, this is bad for us. We're doing it anyway, because Benjamin Netanyahu wants to.

You see that enough times, this is again, not the first time we've seen this. It's not the tenth time we've seen this.

“We've seen it generationally, you have to ask, what is this?”

And you have to find out, and you have to air it publicly, because it has to end. We cannot be a free and prosperous country until we are a sovereign country. What does that mean? Our leaders elected by us have to be able to make decisions in our interests. Not to the exclusion of everyone else, you don't have to end other people's civilizations in order for your own country to prosper.

It doesn't work that way.

But you have to put your people's best interests first, or it's not a legitimate system.

And if there's another country and an arrangement with another country that's preventing you from doing that, you have to fix it. And then there are also moral questions. If that partner, your closest ally, the only democracy in the Middle East is killing kids in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Iran. And doing so without apology, if it's committing war crimes every single day for years with your money and your weapons at some point you're implicated in those crimes. And you have to stop that, too. It's all bad. There's no upset.

Where's the upside?

And hopefully the first thing we do when and if this war is resolved is detached from Israel.

“Not to clear war on Israel or treat Israel as an enemy.”

They may treat us as an enemy as they have before. When they try to sink the U.S. liberty in American naval vessel, a surveillance vessel, they treat us as an enemy. We don't have to treat them as an enemy, however, and we shouldn't. But we should treat them like we treat every other country.

As an ally, but with restrictions and reservations and red lines, no you can't act against our interest.

And this distancing should begin with a total end of aid of any kind to military or economic Israel by the U.S. government.

“And people who love Israel, some of whom are pretty successful, can send all the money they want to Israel, and that's fine.”

But the U.S. government should send up one more dollar to Israel and not one more piece of military material to Israel. Now, one more fighter jet or bomb or missile defense system or small arm or ammunition of any kind. Because Israel is aggressively acting against our interest, and so to continue to arm and finance them, their generous welfare state, for example, or their military, defend their nation, is not only contrary to core American interests, it's just massacism. Watch us hate ourselves as we fund a country that's killed more Americans than most other countries have, that's just fact, and not just on the liberty.

Every war that Israel has pushed us to join has resulted in dead Americans.

“And the fault lies ultimately with our leaders who are going along with us, it's their fault first, it's not these really fault, it's our fault.”

But they're implicated in it, this relationship has resulted in a lot of dead Americans a lot. And it's time not to end it, not to set up an adversarial relationship, but to set up a healthy conventional relationship where Israel can pay its own bills and fund its own military and act within the constraints imposed on it by its own economy and population. That's what normal countries do. Most countries live with neighbors that don't like them with whom they have testy relationships, but they make accommodations because they have no choice.

There's no country in the world that acts with total impunity because it knows a much larger country will backstop it, no matter what it does, that just doesn't exist in the natural world, because it's not natural, it's grotesque. And it's terrible for the United States and now it's obvious. And by the way, unless our lawmakers, unless the U.S. Congress restrains this relationship and changes its nature, there's going to be political turmoil in this country. So, no mass, it is really clear. Israel is pursuing what it thinks its own interests are, but those are not the same as our interests.

Now, one of the problems with changing that relationship is, well, you're going to have to deal with Israel's agents and advocates in the United States. And there are many of those. There are many of those. And by the way, just to be completely clear, they're not all Jewish. In fact, most of them aren't. This is not about Judaism. That's about blind support for a nation state called Israel to the extent that it harms our interests. And you saw that on full display in the last 24 hours, so the president excitedly announces a ceasefire.

A pause in the fighting in a war that cannot result in American victory, but only in further American defeat and degradation and ultimately in bankruptcy, impossibly in nuclear war.

So this great thing, immediately advocates for Israel appear on Fox News telling you that this is not acceptable. This is a loss. This is cowardice. Here's 83 year olds, former general, Jack Keen on Fox telling you that this is disappointing that the killing has paused just for a moment. Here he is. So there's a lot wrapped up in the deal. My preference would have been to keep the war going as leverage to make that deal. But we are where we are now. And I really do think if the deal blows up, it comes down to Cargallon.

And forcing either take control of Cargallon and take control of the distribution of oil or destroy it and force an economic collapse. And what do you say to something like that? Most people watch him like, oh, he was a general. He was a general. He knows what he's talking about. He's probably wargamed this whole thing out. He knows what it is to take Cargallon. Talk to anyone who actually has been to Cargallon or understands the geography of the Persian Gulf. How do you take Cargallon?

Cargallon is actually changed hands quite a few times through history, various empires have controlled it because geographically it's a critical piece of real estate.

And it's extremely hard to control at this point or once again, we would already take control of the oil. Oh, really hadn't thought of that. How would we do that? And of course, no one ever asks a follow-up question. How exactly would you do that? What would it cost us to do that? How long could we hold it? How far from mainland Iran is Cargallon? Is it within, I don't know, artillery range?

“Have the Iranians bought this through to? Do they see Cargallon through which 90% of their energy moves as a key piece of real estate?”

Have they taken extraordinary steps to defend it? What are those steps? And how do we mitigate those? No, not a thought. Just take Cargallon, take control of the energy flows, collapse their economy. Well, then what happens? You collapse their economy and then what? Does that open the straightsword moves? Where does that leave us? Where does that leave the seven countries that face Iran? No, no thought to that. I'll just do it. And by the way, it's kind of cowardly not to do it. The children. And only the children we know they are because they have a decades-long track record of bad decisions, not just bad but disastrous.

These are the very same people who've gotten the United States into every pointless conflict, really since the Second World War. How many of we won zero?

Just a fact. A fact that you admit with sadness if you love the United States, as most of us do. None of this has worked. And if it has tell us how, just explain what the United States got out of any of these conflicts. With accelerating absurdity, each one more absurd than the next, you can understand. You don't want China to control South Korea. Okay. Let's do the enchanted landing. You could sort of understand why you wouldn't want Ho Chi Minh sweeping into Saigon, which is now called Ho Chi Minh City.

Can you really understand why we invaded Iraq not at all? And this war makes the least sense of all. If you view it through the prism that most Americans would, which is as good for us, no, obviously not.

And there's no way to achieve it. And you know there's no way to achieve a military victory, meaning a return to the status quo of February 27th because they never explained what those means might be.

Because they have no idea because they're children. And so really it's incumbent on the rest of us to increase our self respect and stop giving air time or any attention at all to people with a long proven track record of failure and absurdity and silliness. Listening to 83-year-old generals who couldn't find cargo island on a map, pretending that they're experts on the subject. Because they're not. And again, they've gotten it wrong again and again and again. Would you take real estate advice from a homeless person?

No. Because they're not going to real estate. So they're homeless. Like this is nuts. And so for this government to function, people who've gotten it wrong again and again and again cannot be persist in positions of leadership. Doesn't mean they have to be imprisoned. They'd like to imprison their enemies, but in a free country don't imprison people because of disagreement. They're saying out loud. Anyone who disagrees with us should be in jail because there are tortarians.

“But it means not allowing them in government. Why? Because they don't have the best interest of the country at heart. That's why.”

Obviously, or they wouldn't be calling for military action that is by definition fruitless in Sicifian. It doesn't work. Who does that help? Not ourselves Israel. That's the whole point of the program. So why do they still have positions of authority in the U.S. government? Well, that's a really interesting question. But we could start the great sorting could begin by disqualifying anyone from government service who holds a second passport. That's really simple. And not just in Israeli passport, but a Belgian passport, a Syrian-Lionian passport, any other passport.

If you're a citizen of another country, obviously you shouldn't be running our country. Because you have by definition dual loyalty, you can just leave and go to your other nation. No, normal country would allow that. Why would you allow that? Doesn't mean people with dual citizenship can't live here. Though there's an argument for that, too. Strong argument for that. Pick a country. If you don't like it, leave. That's fair. Can't use this as a place to park your money.

“It plays to hide out or hang out until you get in trouble and then flee to your other country. Like, why would any nation allow that?”

Most don't. We do. We've got to stop it. But you could begin with, know you can't serving government if you've got two passport. Sorry. Period.

Especially when the US is at war, you can't serve in the US government if you've worn a foreign uniform. Of course not. You can't hold a elective office if you fought for somebody else's country.

“Because by definition, you have fought for aims that are not the same as ours. In fact, they may be in opposition to ours. You may have fought against what's good for the United States.”

Certainly, if you serve in the IDF, you fought against what's good for the United States. Knowingly or not, probably didn't mean to. But you did. You shouldn't go to jail for that. But you can't be allowed to work. It's a panic on. But right now, you can. And by the way, there are IDF officers working out of the panic on, because they have an office within the panic on.

As they do at CIA and Langley, a foreign government has offices in our critical executive branch headquarters buildings.

That's just not healthy. That's crazy. And it cannot be allowed a single more day. Why would it? Oh, that's hateful.

“Of whom? Would Israel allow that? Would they allow Americans?”

I don't know, to up open an office in the Demona Complex? No, because they're not insane, but we are. So we should stop that immediately. But the main problem with Neocons of all religions, just to be totally clear, is that not only are they not unbored with the interests of the majority of our country, they work in opposition to those interests. Wars you don't need mass migration into this country and the West, and that would include Canada and New Zealand and Australia, Western Europe and the United States.

That migration, which I think even liberals would acknowledge, has not been good for anybody. In fact, it's destroyed these countries, because a country, a sovereign country, is controlled over its borders, gets changed the population in the generation, can't do that. That's all been abetted by the Neocons. 100% now, why is that? Well, that's another question. But the whole thing is dark. The owner of only France is one of the biggest contributors to APAC? Hmm, tell me how that works. Don't know the answer, but it's not good. It's not healthy. It's not good for the United States.

None of it's good. APAC's not good. Only France is not good. So maybe it's not surprising there's some nexus there, but above all, what is degrading to our country, bad for our strategic objectives, and just rotten for the nation is the lying.

The non-stop lying. The refusal to be straightforward about your aims. What are you actually arguing for? You never know, because lying is totally acceptable among Neocons.

Completely. You always cloak your real objective. You saw this in the 12-day war. Oh, no, no. We're just going to get rid of their nuclear program because it's an imminent threat to the West. Okay, it's an imminent threat. And some people pipe up and said, I don't know, this looks like the opening salvos in a regime change war. Oh, shut up, racist. Of course, it turned out to be. But nobody ever apologized, and will actually you write you caught us the first time, and now we know because we're in a regime change war or an attempted regime change war.

Yeah, just keep lying. Just say whatever it takes, whatever's expedient to get to whatever the goal is, but you never know what the goal is, because they'll never tell you. It drives people crazy and makes people conspiratorial. That's the other problem with it. Somebody conspiracy theories. Well, they're happening to be quite a few conspiracies.

“What's a conspiracy? Well, it's a group effort to achieve something whose goal is never stated in public. That's what a conspiracy is.”

And there's obviously a lot of that. Here's one example. This is from Fox News yesterday. One of its top shows. Here are two Neocons talking about what they think the US we should do next in a run. And hopefully, if we can get arms in the hands of the people, they'll take over. I'll give you the last word we have about 30 seconds. That to me is very key. I've been talking about that in multiple appearances here in on radio. We have to arm the people. Because if we're not going to do regime change, they need to have the ability to do it.

They can do it in Afghanistan. He did it in Necoragua. He did it in Honduras. He did it in Angola. Donald Trump can do exactly the same thing. Somehow, some way, those people need to be able to get armed. And he did take their future into their own hands. It's like they can't even hear themselves. I mean, the other problem is, and one of the reasons you have to laugh at all the conspiracy talk about the Neocons is a lot of them are not super bright.

What happened? Well, it's when Reagan did it in Afghanistan. He sent weapons to a group of freedom fighters called the Mahajidine Islamic warriors. This is back in '80s when we were on the side of Islamic extremism against the Soviets. And now you fast forward 40 years in who's in charge of Afghanistan? Well, Islamic extremists, the Taliban. Nicaragua, 40 years ago, we sent arms to the countries. A lot of people supported it, including me, by the way, to be clear. Because the Soviets are making inroads in Nicaragua, they're funny. We call the Sandinistas led by a man called Daniel Ortega.

And we were going to regime change Daniel Ortega. So 40 years later, who runs Nicaragua? Anyone got Wikipedia? Oh, Daniel Ortega.

“So whether you supported or not, it didn't work, it didn't work. You're pointing to those successes, really?”

Countries that 40 years later are run by the Taliban and Daniel Ortega. And that's the argument for sending arms to the opposition.

But what's so revealing about that clip is how the actual point, the object of the strategy is never stated, in fact, it's hidden.

And it's hidden in the most sinister way in the language of idealism and ideology. We have to end Islamism. We have to stop the threat of the terrorists. We've to bring freedom to the poor, but I did people of Iran. Of course, the actual aim is Israel's aim, which is chaos. The whole point of this from Israeli perspective is not an attack on Israel, by the way. I mean, it makes it kind of evil sense.

“If you want to eliminate a threat, you can't kill everybody, even when nuclear weapons, but what you can do is set them at war with each other.”

And this has been the way that Israel has conducted asymmetrical warfare since its founding. You so chaos among your opponents, you get them to fight each other. And that's the goal for Iran, which is just a little bit over 50% Persian, not everyone who planned the war seemed to know that are advocated for the war seemed to know that, but these rallies know it.

And they know that the goal is to stoke ethnic conflict into some extent religious conflict in Iran. Most Americans have no idea that they're up to five million Christians in Iran.

They've no clue. But of course, these rallies know that, so lots of Jews in Iran. These rallies bondboarded in their synagogues yesterday. Why unclear? Maybe they're just the love of bombing things. But it is a multi-ethnic country with religious minorities. And countries like that are ripe for internal division.

“So the point of the exercise is not to get weapons in the hands of freedom fighters, who would those be? How do we identify an Iranian freedom fighter?”

Now, the point is to stoke an endless civil war, which once ignited are famously hard to end. That's the point. How does that serve our interests? Well, of course, it doesn't. Israel, which seems to have an interest in destroying Europe, certainly desire to destroy Europe. Prime Minister said it himself, "Rome is our real enemy." So angry about 70 AD, 2000 years later, his words not mine. So clearly Israel wants to harm Europe. They've said so. They've helped do it. That would definitely harm Europe and the West.

How does it help the United States? Well, not at all. But here you have two prominent analysts on Fox News telling you that for the sake of the Iranian people we need to do this really. The same people who are being bombed, whose infrastructure civilian infrastructure is being destroyed. The same people who will starve to death if this keeps up were really doing this for them. How is starving me to death in my interest? Are you really trying to help me? No, of course not. How much better it would be? How much more Christian would it be just to say what you're trying to do out loud to tell the truth for once?

And then the rest of us could assess it. We could argue against it on good faith terms.

We could probably even accept it even if we disagreed with it if we knew what it was, but you never know what it is.

With liars, with people who are committed to saying whatever it takes to get their goal achieved without explaining what the goal is. So that mode of communication of operation that whole worldview is totally corrosive to our country. It is totally immoral lying is bad. And because lying is now the currency of government, thanks to people like the people you just saw on the screen, some of us have lost track of this. You can't accept anything the government says it face value to parse every statement. Well, maybe this means that or it's a bank shot intended to achieve this. You've no clue.

Those kind of people should have no role in any decision the U.S. government makes going forward. Period. And if they support arming the freedom fighters of Iran, let them do it themselves. And if they support overthrowing the regime, let them fly their themselves and attempt to do that. If it's that important. For now one more day should people like that have access to the levers of power in this country and they should absolutely not be allowed to write our legislation. This country needs to free itself from the influence of a foreign power and restore freedom to its own citizens. The freedom to criticize a foreign country to boycott it if they so choose to speak their conscience without the fear of being arrested or accused of a thought crime.

That have made this country increasingly authoritarian where people who are born here no longer feel free to say what they really think. The last election was supposed to end that instead it accelerated it. How did that happen?

It's not even clear, but it did happen. And so the first thing we need to fix when this is all over is the system that produces disaster in the first place.

“Not just to change your presidents, that won't be enough. We've just proven it's not enough. You need to change the system that acts on not just this president, but every president to produce results that are terrible for the United States.”

That's the first thing we need to do. The second thing we need to do is figure out how exactly Iran was able to do this. How did that happen? It'd be fun to go back and look at the tape from cable news in the months preceding this war. And just clip the portions where they describe what Iran is like. All experts on Iran, not a first speaker among them, but no a lot about Iran. This is before anyone heard of carguerland. Didn't know the population of the new nothing about the country except that it was a primitive country.

And so the presidents that were going to bond them back to the Stone Age, most Americans must have thought, well, I thought they were already in the Stone Age. Well, those what age they were in, Stone Age or medieval, who knows what their caliphate was really like. It turns out that their military power and their economic power, we vastly underrated. Vastly, they've done, and this is noted with real sadness, much better than anyone expected, including these railies, apparently. No one saw this coming.

“So how did this happen? How did this primitive country that she was protesters in the street and beat up women?”

Because they're women or whatever they were telling you on TV, how did that country chase away US aircraft carriers that aren't anywhere near the coast? Where did that country shoot down some of our most advanced aircraft? Wardog, black cocks, etc. How did they do that? We have gotten as a society into a very bad and self-destructive habit of not allowing questions like that honest questions about our own failures. And the reason that's bad is because unless you understand what you did wrong and repentive it, promise not to do it again, you tend to keep doing it.

And yet in this country for some reason, the reasons are pretty obvious. We have allowed the people who make those mistakes to browbeat the rest of us into silence.

And whenever someone pipes up and says, wait a second, we're spending a trillion dollars a year on this military.

“And we can't get our aircraft carriers within striking distance of the coast of Iran because why?”

Shut up, Islamist. Were you siding with Iran? Well, no. I'm siding with the United States, but what's the answer? We pay for this military. We were told we had total dominance of the skies, but then they shoot down our aircraft. Apparently a lot of them. We can't know because everyone lies about everything, but apparently a lot of them. But one is shocking. How did they do that?

Is it worth having an aircraft carrier in 2026? I don't know. But the people who build aircraft carriers certainly have an interest in telling us, we need them.

During the Ukraine war at the point, maybe a year or two win when the public was starting to ask like, wait a second.

Our airports are filthy. Our schools don't work. If we're too jobs, just to pay my bills, and I still can't afford a house, start to add those people, which is most people, started to ask the question, why are we sending all this money to Ukraine? And by the way, where is Ukraine? And Putin bad, okay, Zelensky's Jesus got it, but like, what does this got to do with us? And why is it good for us?

And the answer that we all received from members of Congress, Republicans in the Senate and Democrats was, it's a great deal. Actually, it turns out, this is like congressional accounting. Actually, that money, which seems like it's going to a foreign country actually comes back to us, because it goes to American defense companies,

And so it's a kind of slight, slight of hand, where we seem like we're being generous, but actually we're benefiting.

“And there may be some truth in that, by the way, it's not a totally, I mean, you can assess whether that's like a, the kind of country you want to live in, where the only real manufacturing bases weapons, probably not, but that's where we are.”

That crazy argument to make on a practical level. I mean, there are military contractors in every congressional district, or always were.

And so it does produce American jobs, but it also sets up an incentive for those companies and the lawmakers who fund them to maintain the status quo. And the status quo is, of course, always going to favor a larger, more expensive weapon systems, because those are the most profitable. A system like that will never invest meaningfully and say drone technology, because it's not enough money in it. To watch the war in Ukraine, and you watch the 40 odd days of the war with Iran, and you realize, well, wait a second, maybe we should have invested more in drone technology or take in a big picture, look at what the United States would need to project military power beyond its shores, and maybe aircraft carriers, and the whole suite of weapon systems, the most expensive in the world.

And the way to project military power, because it doesn't work, and they can be defeated or least constrained at a thousandth of the cost by less technologically advanced countries like Iran.

That would be very obvious conclusion, in fact, that was the conclusion of any smart, non-aligned person for the last five years. Just really worth having an aircraft carrier, if you have to open the straits of our moves, maybe not, well, apparently not. But we have been unable to have that conversation, because the vested players in the whole economic chain coming from the United States Congress through the Pentagon and out to well the entire economy of North Virginia has discouraged it. We've continued to do the same thing, the same way, except at a higher volume for a very long time, and now we are seeing the results, which are embarrassing.

And we actually can tell ourselves with the strongest military in the world, and you want to be the strongest military in the world, because that's great.

If you are the strongest military in the world, why can't you force Iran to open the bottleneck at the end of the Persian Gulf and let vitally needed commodities out to the rest of the world, including you, like if you're so powerful, why can't you get it done? And so what we've learned is we're really not as powerful as we said we were, and that's bad for us, but it's also dangerous, because it invites aggression. We need to fix that by being honest about what just happened no more lying. We should learn something from what is happening right now, and that process will require the people who made bad decisions to be punished for them, not imprisoned or killed, but certainly humiliated, because they deserve it.

Well, is that something public officials ever really humiliated? Even the ones who get fired did fire with a statement like, "We thank you for your service, you're so great, you're doing something more important." How about you committed dereliction, you did a terrible job. You don't have to kill yourself for anything, which can't work here again, and we're not going to endorse you, we're not going to pass you on to the next employer with a fake letter of recommendation, or you did such a good job.

“You're terrible, that's why you fired you. Only in a system like that, a true meritocracy, can you have excellence, but that's the opposite of what we have.”

No one has ever punished, no one has ever criticized, no one ever takes the fall, no leader is ever humiliated. Only the people beneath him who carried out his orders. That's the definition of a perverse system that produces, not surprisingly perverse results, like the ones we're experiencing now. Since the next thing we need to do, be honest about how Iran, this primitive country, just humiliated us. That's not anti-American, that's pro-American, we love our country enough to want to know, and we need to know.

“And the final thing we need to learn from this particularly ugly experience is that you have to have leaders who care about you, because that really is the basis of good governance.”

It's not brilliance or superior planning, those are important sometimes, but what really matters is intent, is the will to protect and serve the people you've been elected to protect and serve, to put at the very center of your agenda, the people who put you there, the people in your country, a love of those people, gets you a lot farther than the best funded government program ever made.

And if you don't have that, it doesn't matter how much money you have, your kids are going to be screwed up because you'll do a bad job.

So it's about intent. How do you define intent? How do you know what a person wants? Well, by the way, he behaves. You judge the tree by the fruit. And so any leader whose focus is outward rather than on his own country is going to be a bad leader. And this is the core problem with maintaining a global empire. You are never going to find a leader. You will never find an American president who is more interested in governing America than he is in governing the world. And honestly, would you be, what shall I would you rather have? King of the world, the world, king of the world, classes, stride, here I am. I'm king of the world. I make all the decisions. I'm going to eliminate your civilization for breakfast.

I'm going to overturn your economy for lunch.

And tonight, we may have Operation Eternal Darkness. I mean, there's an appeal to the megalomaniac, to all of them. It's not just this one. It's all of them. That is your resistable to leaders. I run the world. Now, running America by contrast is hard and messy. And you know a lot of the people you're going to make them mad. You go to work with a hoothe. These people don't know who the is. They're never going to meet a hoothe. There's no cost to you whatsoever in the short term. But let's say you just ran America. How'd you like to fix Baltimore be responsible for Gary and Diana or Detroit or Los Angeles or New York. These are hard problems. How do you fix American schools? They're totally useless. No one's even trying.

And the reason they're not trying is because they're totally distracted. Well, because it's hard. Of course, the solutions are not obvious. But they're not even being attempted anymore. And this is a generational thing. Thirty years ago, people still talked about our schools. We got to think of a way to make our schools better. School choice. Sound like a good idea. Did it work? I don't know. No one ever mentioned it again. Nobody cares. Our leaders don't care. They don't care.

“And that's why the country is weathering because people who don't care are inattentive. Sometimes they're actually a little bit hostile. Sometimes they're very hostile.”

But no matter what their disposition, they're never going to save you because they don't care enough to save you.

And no leaders who really loved his country, no matter what they tell you, would've embarked on this disaster. They kind of nod to caring. We're going to save you from the nuclear threat of Iran. Was there a nuclear threat from Iran? Shut up, Peter. Was there a nuclear threat from China? Okay. Okay. There's no even real attempt to tie what they do outside our borders with most of our money to

“any benefit to you whatsoever because that's how little they care. And that actually has to change.”

And the such is to matter the looming debt crisis, which is real. The fact we spent hundreds of billions on a fruitless war that diminished us, it's not even about that. It's bigger than that. Coming out of this, we have to demand regardless of party or even ideology. Leaders who have a gut level love and concern for the American people. That is the test. That's the acid test for holding office in the United States. You have to care. We can probably devise ways to measure whether you care. But if you don't care, you're going to have to join the neocons doing something else.

“So that's what we've learned so far for where we're going, whether this ceasefire assuming it even is a ceasefire will hold. We want to talk to someone called Alistair Crook's who is not famous in American media by and large.”

But it's outside the United States. I think regarded as one of the most experienced and wisest observers, mostly non-aligned observers of what's happening in the world, particularly in the Middle East. But most of his career as a British diplomat, intelligence officer, it's not endorsement of British intelligence, which has been much discredited in the last 25 or 30 years. But certainly one of the most knowledgeable governments for most of its existence. I mean, they managed the world and they sent people out into the world who really understood how things worked at a granular level, not just a 40,000 foot level,

but understood the languages and the cultures and the geography of the nations that they were trying to influence. So he has spent his entire life outside his own country and has actually personally negotiated ceasefires in the Middle East and knows it very very well, live for years in Beirut.

Mr. Crook, thank you very much for joining us.

“Do you believe that the ceasefire that the president of the United States announced last night can hold?”

It's very tributes. At the moment it's very tenuous. It's already eroding somewhat. And I'm not sure that the contradictions in the tension, the underlying tensions within the ceasefire can hold. It may be that it's already eroding that being Israel has been attacking Lebanon. There are some disputes to weather.

Lebanon was supposed to be a part of the ceasefire or separate to it.

And it should be, it was definitely a part of it. Now Mr. Netanyahu is saying it is not. And it seems to be that that is being confirmed by the press secretary at the White House. But the Iranian reaction to that is that they have an equation either there's a ceasefire or or there's a ceasefire or nobody. And all that was happening in the largest at the moment in the parliament in Iran, it is the security committee that are saying, OK, if his bullet is targeted and is being targeted and being killed at the moment and it is not finding the ceasefire.

But when they may be we'll consider that the whole of Israel is not part of the ceasefire and we'll continue to target then.

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“Can you describe what you refer to at the beginning as the underlying tensions in the ceasefire, the mislined interests that may torpedo it in the end. What are they?”

Well, I would explain it, not in terms of just sort of literal what is in what is not in it. I would say probably Iranian perspective, the purpose of what's happened, or at least the attack that the place on Saturday last, with the Supreme Leader, that has given an opportunity to change the situation, to break the corridor. They want to get out of the cage. What do I mean by the cage? Well, it's not the sort of physical cage of Gaza, where there are fencing and gross buying over. But nonetheless, it's been 74, 75 years of cage buying. If you look at a map and see all around around every side, it is hundred environmentally bases all around.

These hemmed-in bite-downs by tariffs, by seed, economic seed on the country, by political, even cotton isolation. And they see this, therefore, not as an attempt to not as a process that will lead if you like to new deterrence. A new form of a sort of, we go back, there will be a cease-fire, then it will end and there will be another round of military.

In fact, I know this will be seem counterintuitive to many of the audience, but actually around this emerged stronger from this month of war, then it did at the end of the 12th day war last two.

In many ways, firstly, because in economic terms, they are benefiting. For example, in the last month of this war, they have gone and more revenue from their soil sales, from fake capacity from carguerians, from the homeless, and being so, in this one month they have doubled what they've ever in previous years.

“In one month. And just to take us an example, for example, on Sunday, they loaded five takers in carguerland.”

At the terminal there, there was a 7.7 million barrels of oil, and they owned $8,5 million dollars in one day from that. So the revenue from, if you like, the potential revenue from homeless will be enormous. We probably, in a year, have just under $3 million on the basis that they're charging at the moment. They're not really charging that, but they're also demanding it in one, which is part of the bigger, if you plan they have, which is to break the sanctions not only to break the homeless, but by insisting that carguers have to be charged in one, which I need currency.

“And not in dollars to be get commercial, the past two, but test them island and Gerard Island. And they're then escorted by the Iranians, just through, through the elements, the other.”

But in the other aspects, which will be seen strike probably listeners are the most surprisingly, is that their casualties are probably less than in the 12th day war.

Why? Well, because what they learned from the 12th day war is evacuate all public buildings that you possibly can, absolutely hospitals, but everything else empty.

“State buildings, security buildings, educational buildings, all around. And so the attacks, which I've focused very much on those, of course, we've far fewer questions.”

I mean, many civilians, where residential areas have been attacked, but on the whole, they have had to use casualties.

And the second thing is that their military is in better shape than it was at the end of the war.

But the first of all, the reason for that is again, rather strange one, the Iranians bought a lot of these decoys, huge numbers of decoys from the Chinese that are imitated airplanes and missiles and so on, but the Chinese gave them a twist, which was interesting. And I didn't know this before, but they have a heat source, and so the women picked up by radar or by sensors. It looks real, because, you know, it's not only looks apart, but it actually emits the heat or real missile or an airplane. And so, largely, the Israelis and the United States have been bombing decoys. They've also been trying to bomb the main missile cities, but if you take a main one like yes, it is very, in the granite months, it's 800 meters steep.

And there's a whole railway system underneath the tunnels and railway systems, under this mountain. And they deliver the missiles on railway trucks. And the railway takes it right up to the entrance and airtight door opens. It moves to the entrance. And the missile is part of the airtight door comes down and the train withdraws. Well, the Israelis have got the bombing bombing us and, you know, the mansion is getting black or black, but it's not affecting their missiles.

In the past few years ago, is that they are dispersed across the event of Iran, which is a huge country with mountains and forests besides the voice of the Europe, effectively. And they are very deep deep. That was the lesson that the Iran is done from the attack on a Baghdad in 2003.

“They saw how airpath had come in and could destroy the command sensor and the military capabilities, or said I'm saying that time.”

And they decided we have to manage a way that we will not suffer the decapitation strike.

And they implemented this asymmetric rule, where the leadership is completely dispersed across the country, again autonomous, if you like commands, they have their own missiles. And they are completely immune from any cattle or communications or an assault or a decapitation strike, because they have reset plans.

“Each command has a serial plan of what to do if the Supreme Leader is killed. And they tell him what the next proposal does.”

So it's like a sort of huge retributed machine that's absent to action. The second command is lost.

And we'll continue the war. We're continuing with preset plans. And we saw that happen. On that Saturday, when the Supreme Leader was killed within the hour, those plans were unfold. And the tax was starting on Gulf States, and the US military bases in the area. So all in all, what I would say to you is that, you know, and people think it could be quite surprised at the resilience that Iran has shown in this. And I'm trying to, if you like, leverage this resilience to bring about a major change in the situation.

“And the Iranians have, you know, some equations that is best to understand. If you want to understand what their position is, it's like the one I mentioned about the ceasefire.”

It is security for all, or security for no one, prosperity for all in the region, or prosperity for no one.

If we are attacked, we will move up the escalation ladder calling. And the aim is to try and bring about a complete change, as I say, to change the region through the control over the whole most, to change the region away from the pressure dollar region away from it. If you like, and part of the economic, the economic sphere of Wall Street, and to try and to move to a different economy in the Gulf area. And also, by insisting on one, it is trying, if you like, to change the whole, if you like, basis and the whole geopolitical, uh, sit slightly, or Iran.

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There's nothing we recommend more strongly than this. If Iran, from what you've described, if Iran were to achieve those goals or even the majority of those goals, it would be a major global power, not just a regional power, it seems to me. Yes, exactly. And this is why, I mean, you know, what is happening in Iran and with almost two times the big ship in the big of a half, because already we saw sea signs of this taking place. They're the month that every ship has got to confirm that it is its cargo is paid for in the month, and we're seeing consequently, Russia has already announced that its future.

Any sales, any artists of Russian oil or gas or products, by Europe, will have to be in one from now on, that's it. Then you've seen a big European bank, Deutsche Bank. Now, stopping, if you like the issuance, so much of that, they're deaths in dollars, and are extremely comfortable.

“But based on either the digital or the ordinary, or the ordinary, remember, and it was a shame that people have been, it's been oversubscribed, people coming back and taking this.”

So what they're doing is actually, if you like, in a small way, but they're trying to tackle this, and the economic ship away from the very leverage financialized economic world, which incidentally has been so damaging to America and Europe too, because it's prioritized the financialized world. And it's all about trading and making money by trading or something else, but it isn't from making goods. No one does that, no, not enough money. So to make more money in an hour on the stock market trading across futures markets and other things. So it's also part of, if you like, that greater project that he is, and Russians are engaged in, of going back to multiple self-sufficient economies.

So it's not just based on financialized products and deals, but actually produce things for people, producing people, and therefore come take panorists and they think this is, you know, what they need to move towards, and they want to change the doubt in that direction by persuading them to deal with Iran, that they have no choice, but they need to deal with Iran. And they should give up if you write all these big data centers by Amazon and AI centers, things to change to a much more simple document.

It's been clear from an American perspective since the first days of the war between Russia and Ukraine that the US dollar as the global reserve currency was in retreat, and it was obviously going to change at some point it always was. That could be managed in some way, you're describing a very abrupt change. I mean, if a fifth of the world's energy is settled in Chinese currency, that seems like just the end of the dollar as the global reserve currency, or maybe I'm overstating it.

“I mean, I don't think that is the aim, I think the aim at this point is to construct and not pay to get the leverage over the West and get them to understand, because it's not just oil and gas.”

I think it is also the precursors for equipment, helium, the software, gas, and all these things that we need for our supply line.

You know, if there's a parallel I would say that the sort of second part of it is a parallel to what we've seen in China when Mr. Trump imposed on his tariffs, I carry $155.

I mean, in the sense, almost straight gives the opportunity particularly if the Red Sea is included, where so much of the world's commodities are.

“And of course, I'm sorry, I'm quite capable of controlling that in a similar sort of way, so yes, it is exchange in that direction, but China, I believe, is very, is very powerful.”

I was in China at the end of last year, and I was very much aware that they are cautious because the way they've applied AI and sound is not in the way we do it in the West. I was talking to some of the factory owners. And he said, "Look, you know, out of the well, you know, at the beginning of the year, I take it to go factory, please, as men, it's now 200, one year later." And he said, "All of that is because we try to stop AI, you can call it robotics or automation or what or to massage or whatever. We apply soft AI for productivity to get our costs and our costs are fully manufacturing costs of 40 by 2%.

And I turned him and I said, "That's terrible because, you know, we can never come to teach with that. We, you must be aware that's quite a difference because you are until a few cities, point, and because we have cost inflation and you have cost deflation.

“And this is not going to be a very easy task, so you have to manage this, you know, you're too sit at the end point with great terror otherwise you end up in a worse conflict with the West.”

But the Chinese don't want to push themselves to the forefront displaced the United States and the special currency to take for do it, you're right.

For example, when I use we chat that in China, you know, it has 1.4 billion users on that 1.4 billion and you can pay, you can take insurance, you can get a loan, everything you want on that.

They can roll that up so easily. I mean, you know, the scale is already there. They could roll it out of causation tomorrow. But I don't think they want to do that. They're not trying to create a crisis that will affect the whole of the trading system of the world because China depends, you know, on trade. And it doesn't want to embrace the system, but it wants to gently remove the system in a different direction. Cost of living is already making it hard to live here and it's not getting any better. Unfortunately, it's likely to get worse and a lot of Americans fill the gap with credit cards, not just for fancy dinners, but to cover things like groceries and bills.

It's a disaster. It's understandable, but don't cut down that road because there is a tax in effect, a survival tax of 20% interest or more.

“Why would you do that? Why would you hand money to the big banks when you can keep it for your family?”

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No, because you wouldn't see it because what they have provided is that the Iranian is used to use GPS. And the West was founded quite easily to disrupt GPS signals when they wanted to order proof into thinking it was a different location.

“The Iranians had gone on to the Russian system first of all, but now at the beginning of this period after the June war they moved to Beidu, the Chinese digital system, which is linked to their satellite.”

As you know, we see some of the pictures from that they're very good. And they also in the agreement in the cooperation agreement between Iran and China agreed that they might have access to the highest grade military quality digital communications system of Beidu.

So the satellite system there are first receivers in Iran. The satellite system is linked to that. And the radars are linked to Beidu, to a single command post or to each single.

It's like we miss our city to provide the targeting and and the data. And during the first stages of this they also put one of their intelligence ships, or ocean one, or to the coast of the Persian coast, which was able to intercept communications.

“It was also able to map under sea, in other words, they could map any Israeli or the United States submarines that were operating.”

All of us was linked and it's linked in a sort of huge, um, digital map that is available, which gives the targets and it gives the way in which those targets can be attacked or type of missile we used. It was used by the Pakistanis in a rather central form in the war against India, which, um, you know, the the pilot in the Pakistani pilot didn't have to see it's target on radar because it could see the whole the whole situation, the whole map.

We call this in the West, the IRS intelligence, reconnaissance surveillance. This was the big asset that the United States did to the Ukrainians.

The ability to have an integrated, um, type of targeting and data, um, all in one, all presented even down to a laptop if necessary, but onto a cockpit or into a missile center. So what I'm saying is, and there's no confirmation of this from the Chinese or anyone they keep quite far. But this time, the suicide on the other foot is the Iranians that have the IRS, the intelligence reconnaissance surveillance is quite clear.

I mean, you know, I don't have to prove it because, you know, when a B1 takes off from a platform, a port that are in in the, the the Iranians pick it up within the second that it's taken off.

But no, when they can thought where it's going and what to do about it. So they obviously have much more strategic, um, if you like targeting and data managed to live in the past. I think the Russians helped it in a different way, more with drones. I mean, the Russians asked for them for using Ukraine, and they took them, and then they upgraded them and now some of that upgrading is coming back to Iran.

“I don't see, I think, all right. How difficult would it be for the United States to defeat militarily the Iranian regime at this point?”

Oh, I, as such, I don't think it's possible not in that sense if you need to destroy the ability to continue a military conflict with Israel and the United States.

And then the new rocket, a new missile is automatically, there's a rotating, um, if you like, um, you know, Chrome, and it moves the next missile directly.

It doesn't get exposed, it's not out in the open, it's 200 meters underground, and then the attack door shots as soon as the missile has left. So you'll be very, very difficult to defeat Iran in that sense to destroy its military capabilities, and it will be even less possible to take control of almost now from, um, from Iran.

“You have to look at the geography, I mean, and it's gray of almost to understand why this would just really be a non-star.”

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“And you're hearing people talk about that, was just eliminate Carg Island. Is that, would that work? Is that possible?”

No, it wouldn't work. And you know, this is a, first of all, called, first of all, called, as you know, licensed foreign tools.

And on the other shoulder on cliffs, and then behind that, it's barren, very, very barren, very with no vegetation, the hills and mountains, those four inch mountains goes right down to the straight. And so, first of all, is how would you get food to car? I mean, you can't sell them up the whole news. In fact, the, the, what I understand is that, that what they call, I think, any, use the marine expeditionary unit ship.

“The mission is something all, as the US says, something rather, I can't remember, but he's properly, did a wrap with 2000 breath on board.”

And he run a file a couple of missiles across, it's about, and it is now removed about 1000 kilometers for version of course, because it doesn't want to risk moving any closer, which is what happened to the. And also, which happened to the carriers, they have to move further on further five, so that they couldn't actually use the. The fact of the strike aircraft on their day, because it was too far, they'd have to start refueling them even over the target, and that is, analytics have to risk for them. So, I don't think you could get.

I don't think you'd get to do that. I don't think you'd get to do that. I don't think you'd get to do that. I don't think you'd get to do that. I don't think you'd get to do that.

Actually, the Iranians would allow them, because they, they in the Iran era, or they were specialists in.

The Iraqis go in their corridors, because they thought they'd work and protected, and then they funds corridor, and then they killed the.

“The Iraqis has a big amount, but it is a million men under arms, and the busiest are the other million. They will, I think, not find it difficult to deal with a substantial landing of objects.”

It is terrible, the mountains that, you know, they are the cliffs of all of anti-ship myself, and the mountains also are full of caves and tunnels where artillery is in position, digging artillery out of mountains is a terrible expensive job. And in any case, you can't get into that would give you, if you had far-guile, and you wouldn't have to throw them loose, because the Iranians have, as I say, and the ship must ask, but they also have, which we haven't seen used for, some multiple drones.

“These are small drones that are in under the water. They are submerged tunnels, and they can exit under the water on those tunnels.”

They have this human batteries, which can last about four days. They have the capacity to loiter, and then humans are special intelligence to select the target and to attack the target.

And then they have surface drones, and by 600 fast ship surface drones, most of those are concealed also. And they have finally, which is not not much, but they have about 25 to 30 million submarines.

The draft in, that hummus is relatively shallow. The destabmarines, and the destabmarines are mini-tabmarines, very small, and they can fly up and down for moans, and they can fly into ship missiles from a submerged, they under the waters, or attack it with other forms of drones by these small submarines. So there would be very long time to go. And certainly more long, we see what happened over the weekend, where the US law of many aircraft, partly because of an attempt to risk to prove from the F-15, but also the subsequent operation, which is probably an operation, try and take the enriched uranium from the Sun.

You care facility, then went wrong, and there was an ambush, many things were, and helicopters were destroyed in that process, and it failed.

I think I was very much confident that they could do a majority of them as well. The special forces would go in one night, along each weekend, when the markets were closed, they would go in, go to where, grossly, they had the I-E-A, you know, there's half of the enriched uranium sitting in a tunnel, and this for harm, and take it, and then come back. And before the market opens, we've won, it's a great success, but it went badly wrong. My guess is, you know, that's over, you can't repeat that exercise now, not because the uranium's know of it, then you all are lost.

You know, that's not stupid, they use a main aim, or Trump would be to try and take seas in the uranium, and then sort of put it off.

“I think we destroyed that nuclear capabilities now, we have more than half.”

Rossi said it was 60% to 70% to 430 kilos of 60% enriched uranium.

I already don't know, it's founded very luminous to me, I mean, that he could take out, you know, this is a big conflict, I mean, a huge conflict, 95 million people, you know, infrastructure or industry, I mean, the size of the whole of Western Europe across it, I mean, how could he, how would you do this? I don't understand, maybe he was deliberately hitting the Trump sort of nuclear device, but I can't tell, but that's, I suppose, one possibility of what he meant by, this would be the death of the civilization, and it would not return again, in the future, it would be over.

“Well, what do you, how would you do that in such a big scale? I don't know, or maybe he was just talking, and didn't really mean what he was saying was blaster.”

We just, we just don't know, this makes it very difficult for not just the Iranians, but everyone sort of negotiate in this time, because they're finding it very difficult to understand.

What is now from ambition? It seems to be that he wants to get out of this war, to which he was invited by Netanyahu. He wants to get out because he has this timeline, the entire election is coming up. He's always said, you know, I've got to, you know, we've got to get this Iranian thing settled, you know, in 4 to 6 weeks, so that I can concentrate on trying to save the midterm results.

“But now, after the failure of trying to extract the Iranian from his behalf, I think the only thing that was facing him was a long walk or massive escalation, and I wasn't going to work well for the midterm or his situation in the country.”

So I think he was hoping for way out, is he going to work in his work? Well, that's what I mean about the contradiction. Iran doesn't want a ceasefire, it wants an end to the war and end to exceed it wants to be able to get out and play around in the region. And of course, that is not the interest, not only of Trump, particularly of Israel, Israel has been pressing. I read the Hebrew press regularly, we do some research of it, and they give it up from the idea of what they call the regime change in Iran.

We realize it's not going to happen, it's not going to work, maybe it never was going to work. I mean, they say to us, you know, the people that press up much better than in this country.

They say this very clearly, it wasn't going to work. Then came Netanyahu said, they must take part in it, this has got to be done, both on the ground, coal guidance is the key thing that they have to do. Well, they have now come to do it, I mean, the Israeli military experts who know the region, like the military and the defense agency have said, you know, you're not going to do it.

What he's going to do, he said on coal guidance, you just basically talking, you will have huge casualties. And so even the Israelis understand that.

“So that's why we now have the switch that is taking place, which is over, okay, now we have to destroy that infrastructure.”

The electricity, water supplies, railways in the last day, the entire railway system of Iran has been attacked by Israel across the entire country. They've been destroying the railway system. I mean, it is civilian infrastructure. It is a criminal thing to do this. The civilian population, well, the deaths, what are pressing on trial to do, to try and push him further down and playing. They want it really so that Iran is not functional as a, as a going state that it is too broken.

What would it take to do that is that even, living aside whether or not it's evil, and of course it is evil, but if that were your goal, do you have a realistic chance of achieving it, and if so, how?

It will be vertical, but you could do some of it. The Iranian electrical system is not a bready centralized. This is all part of the rethinking of asymmetrical warfare from the 2003 period.

“So, I think it's 150, 160 different electrical tasks that are all interconnected, and so they have a huge number of small tasks that are decentralized across Iran rather than, you know, a few big problems.”

And the share is probably the biggest one, that they have, but that's a joint project is right. But they've Iran has attacked that twice, and I think this was a message.

And you obviously, what was happening, but first of all, Israel attacked Nantaz, which is another nuclear site facility, in Nantaz, is also still damaged from the bomb.

But then they could land it on the cell, quite near to Boucher, which is the functioning power nuclear power plant, jointly run by the Russian. And it's under full IEAs provision, because the Reiches wanted like that. And then they landed a missile quite close to Boucher, and then now they've landed in the recently missile that has damaged it, not heavily just, but hitting. And of course, the IEAs were very concerned by the Russians that now withdrawn all their staff from it. But in my view, this was a message not to Iran, but the United States.

And the message was to say, you know, "Well, if you don't do it, we have the capability to eliminate these nuclear to go down the road."

“So I think this was a pressure point that was put on to the White House, to say, "Look, I do you do what we say," and, you know, destroy the capabilities of infrastructure, or maybe Israel will be forced to move to a different direction.”

Or maybe Israel will be forced to move to a different level of a power to a nuclear level.

That would not be the first time the Israelis had threatened that they threatened that in 1973, so it's been over 50 years of the same threat.

Do you believe that that's a real threat? Do you think Israel would use nuclear weapons in Iran?

“At the last resort, possibly, but not before. No, I don't think so. I think it would be very much the last resort.”

But you know, Israel has become less, I would be writing to some years to say that, you know, it's no longer possible to see and understand a large segment of these really populations through secular rationalist lenses, which we've headed to do. We have to look at it through eschatological ideas and see what they are looking to. And then you see, I mean, you take some of these, someone, a minister like Spockridge, I remember, six to ten years ago, who said, "You know, this is the plan. We're going to get rid of all of the Palestinians, all of the Arabs outlands, the territories, but we require one thing.

Okay, this was seven years of six, seven years ago, and we miss a one thing. We need a big crisis or a major war to finish off this project." In other words, there is a large segment that are not writing the parliament garden, but actually, I'm looking forward because this is the redemption in the student.

It makes absolute sense that you're an eschatological, a messianic, believe her, to do these things.

So, you know, we have to try and understand it in these terms too, I see. And there is the danger, the sort of eschatological, the messianic thing, but it is present. It's been protected, but it would be present. And it's probably more than half of these railings, the sense of amulet, the tail, twice in the war of amulet. And this is going to lead to eventually, to all together and redemption.

“Given that, how do you understand the pressure from Israel on the United States to continue fighting Russia?”

It's very clear now, it's always been clear, but it's rarely spoken in public in the US that Israel and its advocates in the US have been the prime drivers of the Ukraine war,

pushing the United States to fund Ukraine in a fight against Russia and Putin. Why, what is this thinking there, what's the strategy behind that do you think? I think it's the same people and it's the same supremacist thinking, the idea of control.

“And the idea is I think in the case of Russian great ancient resentments, I mean, dating back, first of all, to the sale attempt of the Bolsheviks to institute a society that, you know,”

or ending or relies on family community religious decree, people as just units units in a society, in a sort of democratic society. That failed and then Stalin was instrumental in the same belief in killing many of those people who, last year were originally many of them came from the US and were prosecuted. And I remember watching a video of Putin addressing some of the acidic members in Moscow, and he was saved to them.

“You know, he was pouring them and he said, you know that I think it was 83% of the Bolsheviks were Jewish and most of them didn't speak Russian, basically.”

So the Russians are very aware of this history and then they were made aware of it again in the 90s when the oligarchs, the period of the oligarchs, or Putin can turn on that. The oligarchs, the oligarchs, normally, or a 6th of a Jewish, and tied to financial institutions in the West, whether in America, or in Europe, and the consequences of that period with the shock treatment, the shock economic treatment that was visited on Russia. I mean, what terrible consequences on the society.

So I think Putin has always tried to carefully maneuver and manage if the life, what he understands is a sort of a past system, which is higher and larger than the past system.

In Europe, in the United States, in the conventional way, they much a bit, also finance and going back to the 19th century and the opposite people, yeah, have pranks and so on. And that has given them a very kosher to their relations, and we've seen that kosher sort of obviously Syria times, but also in Putin's relations with Israel. I don't mean it any delicate way, I'm just saying that I think he's a kosher person, a lawyer by training, and he understands the power, the global power, and it's ability to mobilize, and it's ability to use proxies to damage and maybe even defeat a country.

It in the sense that I think the United States and would like and Iran would be content to find security solution, a common security situation, not just a ceasefire to which would involve, of course, things like sanctions or mobile sanctions. Very similar to what Russia has been looking for, but just as in the Ukrainian situation, the European determination to continue the war on Russia, you can see the Ukrainian proxies has really stopped the ability to define the ability to consume shit.

“Because what Russia wants is quite clear, I see, Russia wants to set the balance of very clear waters of boundaries of the sphere of interests of nation, and what Russia and China and Asia is, it's the Arab interests.”

What where does the boundary between their life and what does that mean? That's what I think he means when he talks about security architecture. And let's hear what Iran is effectively saying, you know, you'll have to cover in something about stopping Israel, because otherwise Israel will not allow you to come to any, you know, any serious means agreement. With Iran, and if you don't, and then Iran will do it his own way, which is going to be, and you said what happens about almost, but, you know, they only have to keep almost highly close to three weeks.

“And the pain across financial markets in the West, around supply lines and around food and all these issues will become very, very severe.”

So, you know, that's saying, you know, this is your, these are our equations.

It's either security for all, or security for no one, prosperity for all, or prosperity for no one. And we are intent on it. And you know, the, the Iranians have a huge resilience.

And we are unusual people remarkable in many cases, because they're reading of the revelation of the prophet, and is that you are mandate as a human being to oppose the oppression of others.

You are mandate, and similarly to look after and to take care of the distance that, I mean, these are the fundamental things you go back to help away and see that is the principle. These were the principles, these were the principles of the Imam in, in use. And the third principle was the need to have active minds. I want the people to have active minds to think for themselves and just think well. And for that reason, made it compulsory that you are, if you went to university, you had to want it to study Islamic philosophy, also have to study Western philosophy to run together in Iranian University.

So this gives them a very strong and they've explained why Iran is viewed as an enemy by people who, you know, are the pressee of us, people and ways who enforce each special rights on some people and not on others in the region, and that is, you know, where it is.

“I think that eventually, we're going to get to the point because the tensions in this realm are huge, enormous things are there.”

You know, the, the, the, the history of staff went to the tap and the other day and said, listen, the idea of military forces collapsing will totally overexpend it is collapsing and, you know, there's nothing we can do by it unless you want to produce another 400,000 troops.

We can't do it. We're overextended. We need to get out of Lebanon. We are failing. We have failed with Gaza. We have failed in the 11th we thought we defeated the has for that.

me out. It's in the Hebrew press movement, it's in the English language press. It's a real

price. And why is such a big price, this is, in Israel, the army has always been the spinal

core of the state. Left, right, religious, secular, all diverse habits in the army. It was the thing that kept it together. And the people's staff is saying it's stronger, it's completely bust. And the clinical leadership says no, you're just being the fetus. We are on our way to a great victory. And we're going to establish greater Israel across the Middle East. And within Israel people are saying, you're wrong. It's not going to do that. Actually,

you're going from one defeat to another to a bigger defeat. Either we have to take stock and take a game or where we go. I give in the fragile state of the idea of would the idea be bombing residential apartment buildings in Beirut, not in southern Lebanon, but in Beirut, you know, a country with a Christian

“president, why would they be killing civilians in Beirut right now?”

Well, what some of the military equipment is doing is interesting. This is clearly a last cost by the government there to present if you like, they could be before they have to succeed that they will join the deceased part. And you, of course, this was a show of force. Even though it was completely in effect, it's show of force, militants. This was just simply destroying residential blocks, many of them, and it was no purpose other than for, you know,

the political grantees to say, "Oh, look, we've done. We've got freedom of action in Lebanon. We can go over one to destroy what we want." Well, maybe we will agree to join the C-Spirit from which is as hard enough to do that. But it has to have no purpose and the idea of

“no, it is actually, they are all going to, I think, completely withdraw, except that they say,”

and this is what the government is doing in 60, they have to demolish all the houses for a depth of 7 kilometers in Lebanon, flat in them, they have to be like Gaza. I mean, they don't hesitate to say, "It's got to be like Gaza," and that's going to be a buffer zone. And the military said, "What is the point of that?" The idea of saying to their leaders, "What is the point of that?" Because actually, the, the, the, the, as well as missiles, most of them are north of the

the Tani. The Tani is the river that provides Lebanon. This is about, I can't remember how many kilometers

but it's about the third of the way up in Lebanon. And it says, "They can still power from north of

the Tani into northern Israel." And that causes huge damage and huge losses. In one day, I mean, the, the idea of the last nearly 100 micro about tanks, the in battle tanks, now they, they, they, they did an ambush, and they saw that on other days, and other days, they lost 80. And maybe 50 in another day, it's like 2006 in Lebanon when I was there, and they did the same thing with the micro about that. And, you know, of course, I mean,

“actually, but I think a few of the lead tanks to cool get out of the, for most of them, they don't”

get out. So there are big casualties taking place. I mean, the thing is a mess, it is asked.

And this is why I think that ultimately the demand for, that sort of a real ceasefire is mostly

going to come, not from from those associates around them that are close to Israel, who may come from Israel itself because they've experienced huge damage. And, you know, what is the point of this? I mean, they cannot, they cannot make a political day from the system. They've created mayhem across the region, and nothing is working through their paper.

after what has happened in these, in this period. So they have to rethink where they're dying.

“And I think that probably will happen. Maybe not yet. It's not right yet.”

But I think they will. I think in the United States, it doesn't the US have to think about how to disengage from Israel, given that the cost of the relationship is very obvious to the American public now. We would not be in a war with Russia. We're not for pressure from Israel and its advocates. We would not be in a war with Iran. We're not for a relationship with Israel. So can the United States disentangle from Israel without getting hurt in the process, do you think?

Well, there are those in Israel who advocated. I know that's surprising. But all the right please, there are those who say, even Netanyahu said, it's time for us to disengage and be less

“alive on the United States. I think he reads the writing on the war. I'm trying to be”

this is the writing on the war. So let's anticipate it. But how they're going to do that, I mean, is a different question. As I was saying earlier, you know, the whole is not just the geopolitics of the region is shifting in because of almost the way to war, but I'm saying that, you know, the mainstay of Israel has been the technical industries of the Gulf and the Gulf states and the money of the Gulf states, which has supported it. And I think that is probably going to change

and change quite tremendously. I'm not sure it depends to the degree with which the Gulf states could also read the writing on the war and realize some of the might have begun to do that. They're thinking about how to deal with, how to deal with Iran, that they need to come to terms and to come to an arrangement so they can export their energy and whatever else they want. But that is going to mean and the Iranians say that, you know, you can't do that and also be

beholden to Microsoft and Amazon and have all of their data centers. And because, you know, we understand what data centers are. They are for security. They are for surveillance, for monitoring every telephone call, every structure that takes moves in the Middle East, so that you can assassinate them if you want them. We are not going to accept these

“of this type of technology in the region. And that's why they've attacked them and I think they”

attacked that big Amazon center in the UAE and it costs $30 billion to set up. It's the biggest

you want to find it on Google Maps because it's hidden but it's a huge AI center there. So I think I think yes, I think, you know, that is the way so where what is the business model for Israel for the next 10 years? That is going to be a question. Where does this war leave the Gulf States, the GCC? It leads some badly damaged many of the people leaving.

I take care of Dubai and UAE, they get leads some needing to rethink how they can survive, manage a relationship with Iran, which allows them to export their goods even though it will mean disengagement from the Western financialized world, but they will need to do that. I think they will find they have little choice ultimately. There's a moment from the information and they do that. They've been attacked and blah, blah, blah, blah. But ultimately,

if they want to move to their products, I'll just do the red sea by the way, it's hardly pipeline to the red sea has just been attacked. I don't know if this can be too destroyed but it's just been

attacked for that for several tentative to supply oil. They could supply a five million hours of

a day from both the coast of the red sea, but that's been attacked now. So I mean the pressure is on the Gulf States to come to terms in some of the world. I mean some of them will more easily

over what time period? I think that this is going to be resolved in the way that I indicated.

“I think that initially we will see the negotiations of the Americans, although they've said”

the White House has said that the ten-point plan is the base for discussion about the political

second. This is the base. This is the anchor if you'd like to ten-point plan that Iran has produced. It's a real

I mean it's a real initiative. It's been signed off by the Supreme Leader, the young Supreme Leader, and by the security council. It's not one of these plans that have come in from Pakistan, but already to sort of if I'm or all people, this is come out of the security structures, and with the support of the IRGC. And the Supreme Leader ranked it after some amendments to it

“and gave it its impregnative. So it is a serious document. I think that inevitably in the negotiations”

whoever is negotiating with this balance or with cough or whoever, they will then reverse or

trying to say yes, but we have to go back to these other issues. You may not enrich the Iranian in Iraq and one of the principles that the Iranian has said is we have the right to enrich in Iran are ready for as a source of energy. They will then say what you cannot have such missiles. You're going to have to dismantle your missiles' systems and you will need to put limits on them and we will have to inspect them and we will have to monitor. And Iran will say no way,

is that going to happen, and they will say you'll have to give up the whole news completely that we'll have to you'll have to give up the news and and they will say no we are in control of it and we don't intend to give it up and then the negotiations on the American side will probably say well, it's you do what we set out in our 15 point plan or whatever it is then slowly sanctions will be listed on you according to how you behave and Iran will say listen you forget our basic equation,

prosperity for or prosperity for now. If you do that you're going to have an economic crisis and I say probably that is where we're going to go. There will be a venture financial economic crisis it ends certainly in Europe but in America too. The death market will well time the market, the stock market will go it will be a crisis and people will eventually you know that unfortunately pain is the greatest instigator of pain. I mean I say when the pain becomes efficient then then

there will be an assistant if in the White House as they have to rethink how they approach this and that maybe at 10 point plan was something that they could actually work with and that they understand that there's were preconditions to a ceasefire not to discussion what's during a ceasefire but the preconditions and they include the living of sanctions and the first primary sanctions and second sanctions at the fair Iran. I mean you've heard these say it's stories from Africa I mean

this is the same the same sort of thing and either either people will face up to that always going to

“be a long and painful period in coming ahead for us unfortunately. Because of what I think it's important”

I was going to say but nonetheless I think that's not about not a disaster because I do think I mean maybe I'm speaking you know I'm going to contrary but I think we in the where need a process of catharsis we some came to nihilism I think we some came to a sort of negative as modernism and the economic structure the damage on the the majority of our peoples the the minority

jobs who get his gas up and hard and I think that we do need sort of what I call creative

“destruction a little bit to the office rethink first start what sort of economic structure”

do we need to to address the problems we have because the economic structure we have in this period has not is has brought about despite how well there is you know the world of the billionaires

and the world of the rest which is getting progressively intolerable and you know our people are

only people wherever it is in Europe and others say well you know protest doesn't work because we protest nothing has we rotate doesn't work we can both between a deal or three

“to a dollar it doesn't change the economic system and bring it up by the trend and that's what we”

want to see and I think the whole of this period partly stimulated both what the Iranians are doing

and even by that sort of thoughts about it is going to provoke people to think more deeply in Europe about how do we actually not just produce the cosmetic market relations type of tape but how do we actually find a solution that would provide a decent living for our people

“I think that's the that's the most hopeful thing I've heard in a long time and I'm grateful for your analysis”

Alistair Kirk, thank you very much so if you've made it to the end of this episode one recommendation go back rewind the last three minutes of what Alistair Kirk just said about what this crisis could lead to that the shoots of renewal are poking up from the soil they are there if you look carefully you can see them what we're doing is not working and hasn't worked for a long time it's not even worth the portioning blame for that it's enough to just observe it

acknowledge it and know that it's true because it is true the majority of the American population is not being served by the current system and yet some sort of horrible revolution is the last thing we want it is possible and if we're wise we could make it true that what we're going through now leads to something better a better future for our country the United States and for the West and maybe for the world this doesn't have to end in total destruction it could end in renewal

and no one has ever put it better than Alistair Kirk suggested so watch it again if you have the time thanks so much for joining us we'll see you next Wednesday [BLANK_AUDIO]