Exorcist Fr. Chad Ripperger: Possessed Politicians, Occult Activity, and Speaking to Satan Himself

>> Father, thank you so much for doing this. >> Thank you for having us. >> As a Protestant who grew up in Georgetown and part where the Exorcist was filmed, I've been trained from birth to think of exorcism as something kooky that the Latin church does for weird

cultic reasons, not at all mainstream Christianity. And then, you know, then you go and read the New Testament. >> That's right.

>> And you realize that the first miracle that Jesus performs in the

Gospel of Mark is casting out demons and then he repeats that continuously and commissions the apostles to do the same. And casting out demons is not just this random thing. It is central to the gospels. >> That's right, 23% of the gospels are actually about Christ dealing with demons.

So, and this is why when you know you're Christian. >> I don't know, I don't know that.

“>> Well, a lot of the Christians will just say, well, you know, I believe in”

God, but I don't necessarily believe in the devil. They're like, well, do you believe in scripture? Well, yeah, well, then how can you not believe that this is one of the primary missions of Christ was to save us from them ultimately? >> Well, when he sends the disciples, I mean, of course, this is your life.

This is also new to me. I'm just shocked by it. When he sends them out, it's like, preach the good news and cast out demons. >> Yes, that's right. >> That's the mission.

>> That's right. >> So, I just before we get into what you've spent the last decades doing casting demons, how is it that the modern church, at least in the United States, at least the Protestant churches in the United States have so deemphasizes to the point where it's disappeared? >> I think there's a historical reason behind that.

So, if you, and it's not just here like in the United States, it's actually in the West

in general, the Christian West specifically, and basically it had to do with the advent of

psychology. So, when psychology came on board, it became in Vogue, especially in the 50s, and in the 60s, you just think that all these people's problems were just purely psychological. I mean, there are psychological issues that very much alert like that.

“But the fact is, is that, so they just started talking it up, and that's one of the reasons”

why in the United States, before the 1960s, the number of dioceses that was the Catholic diocese that had an exorcist was fairly high, every major diocese would have one. But then it started to decline precisely based upon that thinking. But then out of the course of time, they began to realize, well, look, there's certain things we're seeing that are not psychological, and so they can't be explained in that way, and

people needed to help, and so now the bishops are coming a little bit more up to speed in that regard. >> Well, yeah, after 100 years of Freud, we still can't identify what schizophrenia is, it does make you realize that the very least, there are things we don't understand, that could very well be.

>> That's right. >> So, that does make you wonder about the origins of psychology, though. I mean, if the net effect was to eliminate people's belief in something real, which is demonic possession. >> Yeah.

Well, I think that was only one aspect of it.

“I think that the real goal of a lot of the psychologists, which is in the literature is that”

many of them are atheists, you know, they didn't believe in God, and so they wanted to eliminate any concept of anything supernatural or what we call "praternatchels," which is the demons or "praternatchel." They're not supernatural. God is the one that's supernatural, but we tend to talk that way.

Although, sometimes people would just say supernatural thinking about demons in that way, too. >> Can you, for the ignorant, like me, explain the difference between "praternatchel" and "supernatchel"? >> So, "supernatchel" is those things which are above anything that is created, and that is pertains to God, whereas "praternatchel" comes from the latter, "praternatchel," which means

"a side from nature." So, that would be things that are above what we experience as human beings in this world, but it's not supernatural because it's not God, it's kind of in that in between state, which is what the demons are, but they're still considered natural in the sense of, they have a specific nature that God created them with, they're created beings, and then they actually

have a natural law, they have all that they're structured to think in certain patterns in certain ways. So, it's kind of a middle tier, but it's "praternatchel," "supernatchel" would be something that being able to suspend the laws of nature, so demons can't cause miracles, for example. But they can cause things that, to us as human beings are outside our normal experience

and so it looks miraculous, but it's actually not something that they can do.

So, I guess the good news about that distinction is they're not all powerful.

No, they are not. In fact, demons are one of the most regulated things in the universe, really, because, and they're regulated by three things, as I mentioned, they're natural law, they're nature, they're structured a specific way. The second thing is, once the demons made their choice, their will became fixed in a specific

way, this is one of the reasons why when you do with them, it's an exercise, they almost seem obsessive-compulsive, even when it goes bad for them, they'll still tend towards that thing which they chose, that the sin that they committed, and so they're very, their tendency is towards that, so they're fixed by that, and then, but the main thing is, if you remember

to me and heaven and earth, all power."

That means the demons even know that they can't do anything without Christ's permission. So, in the spiritual warfare landscape, we know, and this is, as an exercise, it actually brings me a lot of confidence, because I don't have to worry about, if it turns into the type of thing where I get shallacked a little bit during a session or whatever the case is, then I know Christ is still controlling and metering how much and what He can and

cannot do.

“Because if you remember, you made the mention of it before when they asked the demons actually”

approached Christ to ask to go into the pig, so just thinking that exact on the other side of the lake. So they can't even enter into the pigs without His permission, and so nothing they do can occur without their permission, and so Christ has complete control over the spiritual landscape, but the spiritual battle has complete control over it, and so they know what they can

and can I do.

First time that actually really occurred to me, was I had this one case where this demon,

because when they take possession, unless it's a perfect possession, but if it's a partial possession, they take possession of a part of the body, and from there they can affect the rest of the person, and so the demon was possessing this woman's lower back, and I asked a commander to tell me, "Why are you possessing that part?" He says, "I don't know."

So I commanded him, "Why not? Why would you mean you don't know?" And he said, "When I entered, Christ restricted me to this part of the body." And that's when it made me realize he has control over everything, when they can manifest how long they can manifest, the kind of manifestation they can actually do, how they can

attack the person that's possessed, how they can attack us, even in our ordinary temptations and things like that, and in other ways he regulates all of it ultimately, and then you begin

to realize two over the course of time, it's ultimately for our spiritual benefit.

“The experiences for our spiritual benefit, yes, I believe that.”

Okay. So what are, you know, we can just start at the beginning, big picture, what are demons? So actually according to a pseudoscience issue, and then also Thomas Aquinas, and then pretty much the whole theological tradition, from that time, from Dionysius on, basically held that in the very beginning when God created, but he did, as he created the entire

hierarchy of angels, instantaneously, all at once. And these angels were created, and Thomas Aquinas talks about what they call the three instances of the angels. So when they were first created, how they understand things is the opposite of ours. So when we want to know something, we'll actually study a number of different individual

things that are like that. So we can get a general sense, and then from that will abstract, a kind of a conceptual understanding of what these things actually are, what their nature actually is. But that's because we use our senses to come to know things, right?

“And this is why even as human beings, we know that if someone is in contact with their senses,”

we know there's something wrong with them, right? Whereas the angels and also the demons are the exact opposite. All their knowledge was infused. So they know exactly what the essence and nature of every created thing that exists. And this is actually a diagnostic that you can use in session, because we get people

that try and fake, you know, fake that they're possessed, and, you know, there's a variety of reasons why they do that. And so we will, one of the things is if you ask them a technical theological or philosophical question, if it's a human being, you can see they have to think about it, and then they'll kind of reason the way through it, that's not how demons work.

They immediately immediately give you the answer, just immediate, they'll just say it's X. And they don't have, because they don't have to think, because for them, all their knowledge is infused, both the concepts, but then as things occur, have you ever seen demons answer as terror questions?

Yes. Yeah. I've actually, there's been cases, how to case, it's one that I'm actually working on right now, where the demons in this particular case have made theological distinctions that there's no way this person could have ever known those distinctions.

And they're, let me give you an example. So he made the distinction between consumatomest and finitomest, which is a lot in phrase. So consumatomest is that the sacrifice is complete. So in relationship to the sacrifice of Christ, he says consumatomest, and then he gives up his spirit, right?

So it's completed. He's finally completed. It's necessary, in order for our full redemption and our full healing and all of that. But it's not finished yet. The finishing occurs once he's buried, so they have to take him down, our late embraces

him, and then they put him in the tomb, right? So that he made that distinction, and I'm going to say, this is one of those indicators that you're not going to see those kinds of distinctions being made by a human being who hasn't ever studied theology in any sense.

about it.

“So seriously, yeah, and so, and there's other times when they've made distinctions that”

are just like, in fact, one time, in the Catholic tradition, we actually believe our lady

was assumed in the heaven, because she was so pure and so perfect and sinless that God assumed her body into heaven. And so the, it was the feast of that day, and I was doing a series of extra systems, and I asked the demon, I said, or it commanded him to tell me, I mentioned the fact that this was her moment of greatest glory, and he just looks at me flatly, which demons

lie all the time, but you know they're telling the truth, there's way we can ferret that out too, but they'll just give you a pat, they'll pan, they'll just pan you and just say, no, that's not how that works, right? And I said, I said, what was it, Dan? He said, it was her moment of great triumph.

She had gone through life without committing sin, and now she's entering into heaven, triumphant.

I said, was it crowning of heaven, Queen is heaven and earth, because we believe that is Catholics.

And he says, no, that was her moment of greatest honor, I'm like, okay, that makes sense, because honor is praise or recognition for excellence, and so God was recognizing her excellence in this way.

“And I thought, so I finally just commend you to me, but what was it?”

He said, standing under the cross in perfect virtue. Peter, he revealed that he said, other than the actual passion and death of Jesus Christ, he said, it was the most glorious event in all of history, the demons of that, the demons of that. So, what's in your toothpaste, if you're using the brand you grew up with, you probably

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And so, Thomas Aquinas makes the observation that the way they manifest, so one of the ways that you know you're dealing with something to demons, we call it morphing, the person will actually change shapes, they're continents or the face will change. And then, I mean, it takes on the characteristics that are proper to the demons' personalities. You've seen people's faces change.

Morphing is about 90% of what you see. What are the changes like? It's very subtle all the way from just recently I prayed over a rather prominent individual. And when I looked at him after the prayers, it can be something very subtle where there's a complexion in the writers and the authors they call it to cherry, what a look.

They take on this face where their face turns like this cherry wood color that's impossible for us as human beings to have a replicate on a natural level. So cherry wood, it's kind of like this red brown color that you just, you're like, yeah, that's not a natural color. So it'll be everything from something very subtle like that all the way to complete morphing

where they change into the shapes of animals. One case, actually there's been a couple of cases of had where women, very feminine, looking all of a sudden morph into looking completely like a man, so you see these are some of those the morphs that you're sitting there while you're praying usually is when it actually ends up happening.

And you'll look down on the woman you're praying over is now a man, looks like a man, yeah. And it's not just me seeing it because we have a team that's there present at the time for a variety of different reasons, they provide different functions but they'll very often see the same thing. So they're all seeing the same thing.

Have you seen people's people's change? Yes. They're pretty common. So there are a lot of times a hyper dilate and turn very black or they'll, another more common thing, I don't see it too often but certain accesses will see some things

much more regularly than others but a lot of times their eyes will roll all the way into the back of their heads so they should all you see is white, so you'll see those.

we call it, one of the Prater Natural Signs that you know someone's possessed, you know they're possessed. How's their voice has changed?

“There's two things that they change, a lot of times they'll change in just the tone.”

They'll start sounding like a man sometimes. Now once in a while the demons will use the person's own vocal voice and so and part of the reason they want to do that is because they, they don't want you to hear what the characteristics of their own voice and the reason I say that is because of the fact that an experienced actressist, it's like a boxer, you know when you box, when you get into the ring

you can watch all sorts of videos about this guy's technique, it's not until you get in the ring and box with this guy, that you actually get a sense of okay this is what this guy is actually like, so the reason the demons don't want to attack you, especially if you're

an experienced actressist is based on a philosophical principle which is the cause is always

some way in the effect. So any time they attack you they reveal something about themselves in that process and then you can use it against them later. So as an experienced actressist

“they really don't want to get involved with you, although a lot of times Christ still requires”

them but they don't want to attack you because then once they attack you you know you can find out what his, what his psychology is, what his patterns are thinking or etc. When he, when he's attacking you. How, how do they attack you? One is the, is the oppression where they attack you from the outside. The other one is is that it's not a obsession in the proper sense because obsession is something that's ongoing but what they'll do is they'll, they have the ability

to affect our imagination and our emotions. So a lot of times what they'll do is when they attack the actressist they'll put a perspective on an image in your imagination. So for example,

you know a guy when he's first married he thinks his wife is wonderful. He gets all this emotional

the likes our emotions are moved by what's in our imagination. The perspective specifically. So when he's first married she's wonderful. She's great. I love my wife. Look how beautiful is she just brought me a beer. Isn't that wonderful? You know, et cetera. Then after 10 years his perspective on her changes because they've had fights and things of that sort and so when he sees her even though she hasn't changed his perspective on her and so his emotional response changes.

Well, demons can put that perspective on your imagination so they can actually do that and this is one of the ways that they can actually affect relationships. In fact, the first thing they ever do in a marriage is they try and put a perspective on one of the spouses or both the spouses to to psychologically divide the people. So the the person thinks they see something bad in the other spouse when they that's it's actually not there. So but anyway what they'll do is when they attack

the exorcist they'll put that perspective on your image and your imagination but that perspective then tells me something about his psychology. So I've written three books or four books actually in psychology from the way Saint Thomas Aquinas understands it. So and developed it based upon that. It doesn't incorporate a lot of the stuff in modern psychology but it actually gives a foundation to it based on an authentic anthropology and not just some wacky view that we have as human beings.

And so what I beg when the first time I was in it started to be an exorcist I just started

watching the psychological patterns of demons because I figured well they have a natural law. In other words, each demon has its own natural law that it's inclined to specific things and not to others. So as human beings we have a natural law because we're inclined toward things like marriage, eating, living in community and society and that type of things. We have a we have a set of inclinations of God placed in us. Demons have that same thing except there's

this particular to their specific nature because each demon's nature is different. Their species

“and technically speaking is different. And so that's why in a session when they manifest when”

when demon comes to the fore and the other one leaves the morphing will change to accommodate that and so you immediately know I'm dealing with this guy rather than that guy and actually after you've dealt with the same demon over and over again you can do a session and just start out on a new case and then when see manifest you're like you recognize who he is. You'll see the same demon in different people. Yes. How many so this I have so many questions I hope you're prepared for long

interview. This brings us back to my initial question before I sidetrack to you too many other questions which is what are they and where they from. So they're basically pure spirits. They don't have a body. They can act upon us who have bodies and they can act upon physical things but they don't have a body so they're pure spirits. They only have two faculties in intellect and a will. They don't have emotions but they experience emotions in their will. So when they were first created

the entire hierarchy of angels and they're in the billions because it's it's actually part of the theological tradition that every human being has their own guardian angel and that's from the lowest rank because there's nine of them the nine choirs. They have the lowest that's just from one of them

to the theological writers that meant that they were created into a perfect state of knowing because as I mentioned before they they just have to think about something. Use their will to move their mind to think about something and they immediately exhaust everything that they can possibly

“know about that thing to the degree of their intelligence. That's why when you ask them questions”

as I mentioned before they never think about it. They just give you the answer so they because they're

they don't have to sit and reason it out they just immediately know it. So that first instance they they were created in an act of knowing and that meant they knew who God was, who they were, what their nature was, what he was asking of them as an assigned task because God every single angel that was created it was given a he God created him to perform a specific task and so for example Gabriel was it was basically created his task was to do the enunciation toward me. So

and we see Michael say Michael his originally assigned task is according to the theological tradition is that he's actually the guardian angel of the elect. That's why he was originally the guardian angel of the Jewish religion but then once they apostazized and because they refused to

“accept Christ he then became the guardian angel of the elect of the Christian religion so that”

he became the and that's all that's also why we read in the scripture in the book of Revelation Saint Michael was given the power by God to cast the demons down from heaven after they fell because his goals to protect the elect that were in heaven and so that was his function so they're all given an assigned task okay so they know all these things they also know all about the angels behind us they also know what Satan at the time Lucifer is being tempted with as far as

his thought because so they were creating the state and then they have this this act of knowledge

that's their first instance and then there's a concomit and act of will delight they see how

magnificent God's creation is now beautiful it is then they have to make their choice are you going to do what God is asking or not now in that choice there's something very specific that has to happen they there is some perfection that they see that is above that they have to be willing to let go of otherwise the otherwise they're in order to to perform their task otherwise they're going to be damned if they don't basically they have to be willing to let go says and basically

and even under the rest in session you can you can compel the demons they'll they'll admit it that their first sin even though it was usually pride or envy of some sort because that envy of some perfection that someone had that they their first sin was pride or envy but they fail to sacrifice that thing that they wanted they literally wanted something that God had not intended for them and so and this is why at the core of it Thomas Aquinas makes an

observation he says in the end there's one thing that God wants from every intelligent creature and that's sacrificing his will to God to him so then that meant they had to accept their their task which is below this perfection so they had to accept this the slower test but then so then they made their choice and because unlike us you know Tucker's general rule human beings are pretty

“stupid yeah and so that's where yeah exactly that's why God has mercy on us because you're”

just like this guy's just clueless right and so and because a lot of them basically that just means that we don't have full knowledge of what we're doing the demons had absolute pure knowledge so when they made their choice it was unadulterated malice they they knew what they got even given the grace to to accept their task but they absolutely refused to accept it the the the third of the angels it felt because we know that from the book of Revelation where it

talks about how the dragon swept a third of the stars down and that's the the fathers of the church say that that was an indicator that a third of the angels fell and became demons as a result of it so the demons are actually fallen angels whose will is now fixed so once they make their choice it's all in you know it's not half-hearted note they it's a full choice they're either kind of accept God's will are they're not going to do it and then the third instance is

right after that then if they refuse to accept their task then they're down immediately so they immediately experience what we call in the Catholic theology the pain of loss they immediately

experience I'm never going to see God I'm never going to see him and that's where our ultimate

happiness is so they know they're going to be miserable plus they have remorse of conscience and all those things because they're intelligent creatures and and but then that of those who are faithful then they immediately got to see God and then of course we read from scripture there

is intellect and will they battle it through the wills but then at a certain point God said that's enough and then he sends Saint Michael to cast him down so the it's a long-winded way of saying

that basically demons are fallen angels who are now bent on malice and evil we are strongly

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that correct yeah i know that that's correct i mean under the under those you would see you know sometimes we say the truth good in the beautiful is what they work against yeah um and truth them so yeah so they they'll they'll mitigate against that and that's part of that perspective putting those perspectives on you so that you don't judge the reality the situation the truth of what really is i mean the historic definition of truth is the ad equation of intellect

to think that my mind conforms to the way the thing isn't reality and we know this intuitively if somebody is telling us you know that that yet this wall over here is purple you look at it and it's brown you're like it's not so you know that there's something wrong because their mind isn't in concluded with reality they don't truth about that what what they do is they try and

“change your perspective on the reality of the situation and that's how they cause damage among”

human beings and relationships in marriage which is one of the things that are majorly under it

they're attacking now a lot of they're doing marriages so um but basically their goal is to get us to

commit sin and basically place ourselves in this point where we're damned as a result of what we do are there you said recently we're seeing a lot of attacks on marriages that suggests there are cycles in behavior of demonic in the behavior of demons there is in the sense that because the as i mentioned that the natures of things are infused in them but also every physical or every individual thing that's happening throughout the universe is infused in their mind as it happens

so if they want to know what's going on in Saturn they just think of Saturn and boom they see what's going on there it's the same thing with us if they want to know what we're talking about all they have to do is think about the the concept of humanity and look inside of that and see us as individuals

“of human beings and then they can see what we're actually talking about that's how they that's how”

they're mode of knowing is this is why they they they can't they they can't be an error about things even the demons are not erroneous a lot of times when you can trick them it's because they're basing their choice or their their things on the most likely thing based upon what you said they're not in error about what you said they're just in maybe they may not know what your intention is okay this is i'm talking about like insertion but anyway the point being is is that they

they basically are they go through phases where their goal is ultimately to destroy the

Christian religion that's their goal ultimately because they know deep down that is the religion that Christ has established period and so and it's so obvious yeah I mean I didn't even under I still don't understand most of this but I just watching the intent of almost everything well say the US government does um and it's aimed at Jesus you know or even the mainstream news media I mean a lot of times they're just they're you know you can talk about anything about Christ although

that dynamic has changed a little bit more recently a little bit but generally it's Christianity that's under attack you can be any other religion you want you can believe anything do anything you want but don't whatever you do don't be Christian yeah and especially don't use the J word except

hmm I see a pattern here what is this yeah that's how I get interested in this topic but

“so do you think the United States specifically where you live is under greater demonic attack”

than it has been um historically yes and I and I I usually tell people this particular aspect to it so under Satan this is that this has been the common experience of actresses for centuries that under Satan there's five demons and they're called by different names like the council the generals but their their job is to execute the plans of Satan that he wants done in this life

the first one is ball who is the spirit of fortification the spirit of impurity so when the

in the United States when they shot down the uh they shot down the anti fortification laws and they basically you know and then push you have all the problems with pornography and that type of thing is free freedom of excuse me it's freedom of expression and all that once they allowed that they exceeded the territory to ball after ball and we get this from Saint Paulis as well if people give into

“lust and eventually men start sleeping with men and women start sleeping with women so”

the next three the first one is Asma Dayos which is he's a demon of impurity but he's uh specifically the demon homosexuality in men so if you what's his name has Asma Dayos yeah as modias is sometimes tell you to hear pronounced as well so he so if in cases of possession if you if you have a guy

that has uh is possessed and he's had homosexual experience it's a pretty good bet that Asma Dayos is

one of the one of the possessors do you call him by name yes at a certain point in fact the ritual that the church has us do tells you to ask the names and the reason you want the names is because once you know the name of the demon you can actually know a bit about his history because these guys are throughout history right so you can actually go and read there's Asma Dayos is mentioned actually in scripture you can also study like for example the the demon ice you can

“actually study the um the history of the ice is cold and you'll actually understand certain”

aspects of his personality because he engendered um one of the one where Rika one was I had more recently was the uh it was the demon Loki who's a demon of mischief and so once I once I got the name out of him I went and researched Loki and this this demon was a spit image of this spitting image of this of this of um of the the mythology behind this guy I did getting him under control was very difficult okay so all that what does it mean mischief he was just constantly trying to create havoc

and you know he's a bit of a geoster and he just doesn't want to obey commands and he just you know and so it was very difficult to get him to be compliant in relationship to doing what he's supposed to and what and what were the problems that the person possessed by this demon was experiencing uh excessive religiosity really yeah what does that mean it means in the sense of doing things it's actually spiritually harmful them under the guise of religion huh like for example uh fasting

fasting excessively or praying to the point where you're neglecting your duties that you're supposed to be doing your duties of your state and life yeah type of thing and so because Christ expects like for you as a father God expects you you've got to be taking care of your kids well this is something Jesus lecture the Pharisees about yes he said you're ignoring your parents because you said this that's exactly right wealth goes to God that's right that's exactly right that's the same thing

so you can get people um the way we say see it a lot is you'll get married women who'll spend all their time at church and they're neglecting their family at home for example um and that's the product of a demonic attack it's uh it can be in the sense that the demons can begin to foster through temptation you can they can foster that type of thinking that I'm doing a good thing because I hey look I'm looking at church you know get it yeah well you probably heard a lot about the

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be things you know taking care of your kids and your husband etc so as my day is is the demon of

“homosexuality and man in women he's cast out to the impulses leave yeah it's kind of interesting”

that you asked that question there was a I actually had a case that had the new day devil mentioned in Psalm 91 as a possessor and once I found out who he was I went and I researched in the father's who is this guy very fascinating he's actually the demon of the midlife crisis according to the this is the father's the church you know the guys that were around after the apostles all the way up to about 800 referred to him as the demon of the midlife crisis but he's also the demon of

um a chariot or spiritual sloth so once I found out uh who he was I started the bit then during one of the sessions this after the sessions will often talk to the people that are possessed and say did what did you experience because a lot of times the demon will um communicate to the person or um what they're experiencing you the extras who won't see it or hear it but the person is experiencing what the demon is often going through and so he said well the the midla the new

“day devil kept crying out to asthma days asthma days asthma days now this is a guy that was married”

to a beautiful young wife with two children and I said do you have homosexual ideation and he says yeah I don't know where it's coming from he didn't have the trauma that's normally associated with the eyes that they have thought that you know he didn't have the psychological history so I did a part of several the connection between the new day devil and asthma days

and boom from that point on he never had the ideation again now I'm not suggesting that all

homosexuality is diabolical to saying that because people can become homosexual through psychological there's a cycle let's say a whole site college behind it but um but the demons can drive those kinds of thoughts you know you'll get guys who are normal heterosexual man and all the sudden they'll just out of the blue they'll get a thought about something like that well that's not your thought you know that's that's that's usually something that's diabolical the

difficulty we're having in our culture those is that we're we're forming perverts basically we keep putting we keep putting stuff on the news media and then you know like on YouTube and that type of thing where we're making these associations between this thing and that thing and over the course of time people's minds began formed by that and so they're becoming perverted in the process where they automatically presume if a guy's on married he's got to be gay you

know that kind of a thing well let me in may or not we're not necessarily be the case so

we've been making those associations okay in women there's two demons of homosexuality the first

is Lilith who is of the more passive feminine kind of homosexual women these are women that you look at them and you're like oh you seem like a pretty decent looking gal why didn't she just go get a guy you know that type of thing so these are women that they're not they're not acrimonious they're very very passive more seductive side of things the other one is Leviathan and Leviathan is the demon of homosexuality in women of the more aggressive kind might make

name form as the women who are heavy on the heels right yeah yeah so these are the the butchie women that are very you know masculine actually so they you'll see that kind of a that phenomena actually happen so then I tell people when they when they when they actually when they actually allowed gay marriage they seeded our country to that tier of diabolical influence and then the last one is there's some debate whether it's malach or balfama because the exercises have different experience

of it but balfama is is the primary demon of malach is also a demon of child sacrifice but balfama is the demon of child sacrifice abortion so when they when they allowed abortion in this country so you have those those five generals now basically have a gain say over our country and

so their influences extremely powerful and we know this just by virtue the fact like to try and

get rid of abortion is like extracting teeth without novokane it's just so brutal difficult to get done and that's because the demons empower the people that are keeping it in place because they the demons love abortion basically it's interesting that child sacrifice seems to be a feature of most religions really around the historically around the world like there's no region in the world that we haven't found evidence of of human sacrifice child sacrifice yeah so clearly there's

something real there it's not that's right like the the ink is you know and the some central african tribe didn't kind of come up with this because they were talking to each other in the internet that's right

“there's something organic and real about it what is that well I think it's the it's the tendency of”

demons towards those specific things but do the people who participate in child sacrifice whether it's abortion or voodoo or mootie in Africa or whatever do they receive power from

it's the opposite they become a subject that there's a subjection now that they're under the demons

“as a result of being engaged in that behavior but there are certain people that are intentionally”

involved in the occult arts that engage in these specific things to empower themselves yes for sure very common yeah and it's and it's it's exploding you know but does it work in the short term I mean does it so so the trade is in Haiti in Africa here santeria you know the trade is I pledge allegiance to a demon and in exchange I receive power wealth right does that work so the technical term for that is a patch you enter into a patch with a demon right

yes no a pact is a form of contract and there's certain aspects of a contract and so one of the aspects of a contract is there has to be a guarantee that you can fulfill the terms of the contract you know like for example if you if you if you enter into a contract for some guy to mow your

lawn but he doesn't even alone a lawn mower and he's never gonna bother buying one well that he

can't fulfill the terms of the contract the problem with the demons is because their subject

“completely to Christ and cannot do anything unless he allows it they can't guarantee that”

can fulfill the terms of the contract so what that basically means is is that because of the disordered act of entering into the patch you can still become subject to them but they may or may not be able to deliver on their side of the contract so I've had a case of possession or more than one but where they entered into a patch with a devil and the devil couldn't give him anything but the person ended up possessed as a result I entered into that and destroyed

fortunately these these these people climbed out of it because they actually sought the help and did but they needed to do in order to become liberated from the diabolical influence but a lot of people just become destroyed there are times however though that that God will allow the demons to fulfill the terms of the contract now what most people think is is that they think oh well the demons doing what I'm asking him to do you know and but what they don't realize is each

individual time he does what they ask they become more subject to him and it becomes harder and harder to get out from underneath that subject they're a crewing debt exactly how did you get into this I was minding my own business I was I was an I'm an academic you know because I I had was teaching in in a seminary at the time and a case in the archdiocese of Omaha came up and they didn't have an exorcist and now you really I just told the diverge diocese I said

we'll get one you know and find some reason but at that time they were only 13 exorcists in the country and about five knew what they were doing so there's so there was very very few and so the but eventually they ended up asking me to do it because I had written a book in psychology where I had consulted with a number of different exercises to deal with the interchange between how demons affect us psychologically because there's specific patterns that you'll begin to see that

are distinguished from something that's just pure mental illness as opposed to something that's purely diabolic which is different from the intramix because so you know if you like if you not saw the moving affairs that's that interchange between the human and the diabolics psychology that you saw but anyway so they asked me to do the to do the case and so once I agreed to do it and it had to do with the fact that when the when the case was diagnosed it it that demon

manifested to me the first time because the pastor I was with asked me to pray with this guy so I

did and booming immediately manifested the demon did and that was an indicator that usually when demons will manifest in relationship to a priest it's an indicator that that's the priest that's gonna liberate usually and that's because demons are very tuned to the power structure and so they know this is the guy that Christ is intended for me to you know take their salaking from so I started being their actresses I did that for about two years and then I was actually

moved to take care of a problematic parish to clean it up but I continued doing exercises for the archdiocese of Omaha and one other a couple of other diocese actually again because there was virtually nobody that was available and then in 2011 arch a bishop slattery of Tulsa asked me to just found a society of priests that this is exclusively what we do we only do exercises in work we don't do parish work you know I do lecture publicly but primarily about this particular

“area to inform the people about what they can do to keep themselves protected so that's how I kind”

of got drug into it and so I've been doing exercises for about 18 years so when you started there were five capable exercises you said how many are there now in the US well right now there's probably about 130 to 140 exercises that are mandated or named by their bishops but out of that 140 maybe only about 20 to 25 I would feel comfortable sending someone knowing that they're going to get to

so even though I've written a book on diabolic influence that's the academic side but you have to

sit in on session and see how you actually have to handle these guys because you're basically handling

like a piece of nitro glycerin you know you can talk from about don't do this and don't do that but they have to have to see it and so there is a mentorship well that mentorship collapsed in the 50s which we talked about before and so now we're getting that back up off the ground and so

“the a lot of the guys haven't been under that a good mentorship and that's why there's so few”

they actually are very proficient at the clinical exercises kind of yeah like practicing yeah that's right yeah yeah it sounds like a potentially dangerous job yeah okay so that's a very good observation the way it works is so the church actually has it's it's called the prenotonda or the note hey which is basically a series of dues and don'ts right but there's also ones that's also part of the part of the mentorship to is to be trained look there's there's a set of guard rails if you stay in

your lane and you don't get out of that lane theologically by doing something that's the ologically daft or it's bad you're you're relatively slave you're not gonna you're not nothing grave is gonna happen to you now it doesn't mean that you don't get beat around a little bit you're stepping into a boxing ring right and so the and that's why they'll a lot of times they'll afflict you with certain thoughts or they'll do certain things to to like try and affect your health

and things like that but that's one of the reasons why the society of priest that I started we are some I contemplative we pray three to four hours a day and then we pray primarily to in addition to maintain that unity with Christ because as long as you stay with Christ you're safe it's when you try to branch out on your own or you think that it's actually not that it's that is you liberating these people are not Christ that's when you're gonna get taken to the wood shed and so

what we do is we we pray three to four and it deals with all the different kinds of diabolical influence everything from normal temptation to oppression to obsession keep us to keep us protected so we have a specific set of prayers to create a protection by keeping us under Christ and keeping that protection in place so if you do it if you stay in your lane you're relatively safe it doesn't mean they should like I said you're not gonna get you're gonna get beat around a little bit but the good news

about that is it also the first two years of the exercises the words and the reason being is

it's because the demons are probably contesting every single area of your weakness and they know your weaknesses are because they've been watching your whole life and so they they'll start picking at certain areas of your of your moral weaknesses and things of that sort of even psychological tendencies that may not be necessarily healthy and they'll start picking at those

“things and so you have to really sure those up in a hurry because otherwise you're gonna get taken”

you're gonna get taken down I've seen a lot of priests actually that became exorcist initially who didn't get that cleaned up and did get taken down so you have to be very happy to leave that yeah so you have to really stay in your lane and you know do everything you can to eradicate any defect spiritual moral or otherwise you might have it's very obvious to me that demonic forces go after Christian leadership yes one of the reasons so many of them are rotten

I feel sorry for them and also leadership in general like are the U.S. Congress has a much higher incidence of diseased personal lives that's right than the American population that's not an accident because they have authority does I mean that's just what I've noticed yeah that's true oh I think that's absolutely true I mean as far as the Christian leaders a lot of times what happens is a lot of times I'll start out with good intentions totally but then when they get to that position of power

it attracts the demons because for demons they they because they're cut off from God they're no longer have grace they no longer they don't even know the economy of grace and by that I mean in the sense they don't even know what helps that God is gonna give different people to get their lives together that they have no access to any of that knowledge they don't have any of that they don't have um they can't each other they can't stand each other so they don't even have the common each other

yeah they completely hate each other and so they yeah and so as a result of that they can't they have the only reason they get along is because they have a common end which is to take us down right man you're describing people I know what I'm kidding I'm sorry that's a hard

“I'm getting there so so the only thing that's left with the demons is because they were created”

in a hierarchy so how intelligent they are they have a will that's proportionately intelligent is strong to that intelligence and different demons have different degrees of intelligence and so

basically what that means is is that their will one demons will is stronger than another so in hell

there's only one thing that's left and that's raw power and so what happens is is but it's also but that power is melted with malice and self servitude and that type of thing

the demons because they know if I can get control of this guy then I can then I can basically use

his power that he has to cause all this other damage or to take other people down that means there's so as I mentioned you know a lot of the Christian leaders they go with the right intentions but when you're talking about politics or in in the civil affairs where powers involved sometimes people going with the right intentions but then they get corrupted afterwards because the demons start when you get that high profile the demons are going to be really spending a lot of

time and energy trying to take you down but the other side of it is two is is that and we've seen this even in the catheter church they'll get the wrong types of people into positions of authority they they know this particular person has this defect they'll give the person the inspiration

“you should go into politics you should you you could you should rule you should be the governor”

and so then they'll incline the person to go into that governorship knowing that because of this person's psychological compatibility with them with the demons that they can manipulate this person to cause all sorts of damage man have I seen that a lot I mean you must watch the news with your jaw open because you know what's happening I watched the news from a distance because it's almost like being in session like yeah I just saw that this afternoon you know really yeah

in fact that's actually one of the reasons that's actually one of the two things that I think you find interesting I actually did a series on how communism and diabolics psychology are identical you strip the veneer away of but one being political and the other one being from the spirit world we put that veneer away the patterns of thinking are exactly the same but yeah that's true yeah it is it is can you that's it worth lingering on for a moment can you can you describe what you see

is some more between yeah well we demons behave in the way that the Bolsheviks behaved yeah I mean

well we see it even happening in our own country in the sense that demons always present a temptation

as this pie in the sky great thing that you're going to get and you're going to get all this pleasure and joy and everything's going to turn out right it's got to do it there you go but they'll they'll present it as you know this is a great thing you're going to get this pleasure you're going to get this you're going to get power you're going to get but then but then once once they get and so then you give into the temptation and then

from there they take you down it's the exact same thing in in in communism they it's a pie in the sky thing we're going to have nirvana because you know nobody's going to have to you know there's not going to be any private property you're never going to have to worry ever the government's going to provide everything everything's going to be peaceful and joyful and is because of capitalism that there's all these wars it's you know it's it's they sell you the bill of goods they get

you to sign off on it and then from there they take you down and that's exactly what the communist do this is one of the reasons why one of the patterns with in relationship to to politicians in

this country that are clearly communist I always watch I said you can just watch the pattern they'll

start out idealistic but I always tell people give them a couple years and you're going to see the

“malice oh yeah and that's what you're serving people yes exactly because and they think it's just”

a fight to achieve this good thing in the end but here's another one you see that exact pattern of behavior in demons yeah in forms of temptation when they die about the obsess people about certain things you know obsession is where the the demons be siege their imagination their emotions to such a degree that the person can't really think outside the box oh man who hasn't been there yeah well that's it and this is one of the reasons why but from that you can self liberate just where

you're just totally distracted all the time because you're focused on this one thing yes it's lost related but not always sometimes it's you'd related or right and what do a lot of times the way you know it's dialbolic is if it's if it's from yourself you can usually like okay I got to put that side of the idea but when it's from the demons you'll kick it out and it comes back and it just it's kind of this battle of just trying to keep that thing at bay being angry at

people yes envy yeah another sign of dialbolic obsession is it'll switch on and it'll switch off without any external stimulus you'll wake up in the morning just torqued you're like my mad you know or something will happen and you're just like why am I sad or why am I angry at this actually person etc and so one of the one of the forms of dialbolic when they when they affect people's psychologically you see this even like people getting fired for no reason whatsoever

because the demon step in it's a hey you got to get rid of this person right put a perspective that there's something wrong with this person then you go back afterwards after the person's going to say like if you have the highest rated show in TV and all of a sudden they fire you one

“day yeah exactly that's what no that's just it yeah yeah yeah but I mean but it it's proof though”

that the demons anybody that is starting to get a little too close to how the demons are functioning in society or in the corporation or whatever the case you start getting and you start really seeking the truth regardless of the personal cost the demons like we got to get this guy out of here

individual thinking there's something wrong with this guy we got to get rid of him that is fascinating

“I'm sorry I never should have tied it to myself this is certainly not about me but I just couldn't”

resist that so here's another one in relationship to the politics but you probably even seen this even in a news media industry so one case that I had it's the only case I've ever had of Satan as the possessor it those kinds of cases are very very rare even historically and in the only reason I thought he was actually this has got to be the guys because he was trying to kill this woman and that he was possessing and he was also he I for three straight days I beat this guy ruthlessly

in a session and he just lied all the time even when it would go bad for me if he just told the truth he would just lie which is what Kri said about him he said he was a liar and murder from the media

yeah yeah so but anyway at a certain point what came out was so in heaven there are

nemesis just to say Michael fights against against against the demons there's nemesis in heaven against the demons so the demons actually have nemesis specific specific holy people in heaven that actually combat them or deal with them and very often it's because of the fact like for example the the demon against the new day devil is actually Saint Catherine of All Exandria because of the fact that she conquered him by conquering that particular aspect of human nature which is the

tense he just being sloughful and lazy right well in this particular case with Satan is the nemesis was Saint Joan of Arc and the reason it was Saint Joan of Arc we as it starts to come out in the case because there's a very there you have a series of sessions and stuff starts to be revealed about the dynamics of the case and why Christ allowed it and why why is this this particular demon of possessing this person at this time and for whatever reason and what we occasionally came out

was is that Saint Joan of Arc was the nemesis because she actually showed up during one of the sessions I don't see her but the person who's possessed actually saw her appear and the demon just completely freaked out and starts running straight at me and I'm watching him run straight at me I'm like he's not coming at me he's trying to get away from something she literally ran over the top of me and the woman that's possessed but it was actually the demon goes and goes

and powers in the corner and so I asked the woman and I said what after after the session was

“over I asked the woman what happened she said well Joan of Arc appeared that's how terrified they”

are of the people in heaven well over the course of time what became out is is that the reason Saint Joan of Arc was the nemesis of Satan in this particular case was because of the fact that Saint Joan of Arc is the nemesis to Satan under the aspect of treason through ambition yeah and he's in through ambition and the reason Joan of Arc is the nemesis of him under that aspect is because she was put to death by a bishop who was French who was siding with the English

so that he could get a higher bishopric of he would advance in the church so he commits treason in order to advance himself and that's what the ambition part is that's a description of

a vast majority of the politicians in this country that's amazing yeah you see it you see it all over

the country so I just need to ask his report forget so in in the famous scene where Jesus cast out the demons called legion from the man wandering the tombs and the other side of the

“lake right it's in a couple of gospels I think and they say send us into the herd of pigs the”

thousand pigs right and the pigs drown themselves they immediately commit suicide yeah okay so the two questions I have are is it a feature of this realm that demons possess animals yes they can possess things with the technical term for that's infestation which is different from possession okay but infestation is where they basically can get into houses I've had to clean up a lot of houses buildings at physical places yeah because they they like play like they like things like places

like possessing them they can also get into in an inanimate objects I know a guy that actually there's what they call for tuna which is a suit they're little figurines where they they're they're they're in version of the Catholic statue type of thing or Catholic image yeah and so what they do is they put a curse on these particular things and then from there they can affect people and this priest ended up having a case where he had a whole bunch of those he put him in a bag

and put him in his car and as he's driving down the highway because he didn't have a chance to burn their destroy them yet this is driving down the the road he's just he goes over this bridge and he does not pay attention to anything you know he's underneath a tractor trailer the car is shreds every single inch of that car except for that where he was sitting that's crazy yeah another priest he there was a case where a guy had killed his wife in the backyard and he found this the

look to see if we can find any remnants of this deed and he found this shotgun shell so he

“gets a house cleaned up but he didn't have a chance to get rid of the shotgun shell he said”

until went from the time it took possession of that shotgun shell until 48 hours later when I got rid of it every single thing in my life went wrong so they can actually infest things and then from there they actually influence things do but have you seen it with living animals yeah well I haven't seen them actually infest to the animals to the point where the animals are doing that but I have heard of other excesses having that I have seen them

actually afflict animals there was one case where the land was infested and the people who owned the farm on their lost 50 animals in the course of one year and it was not a really odd circumstances so the one one day they just came out stepped out on the porch and they had these piranys one of the piranys was just standing all of a sudden that the piranys just starts choking to death and kills it right and so because the demon on the property it took us a while to get the

“guy out of there but we found that got him out but then they took it to a vet and they said”

there's no obstruction there's no reason there's no reason this dog should be done so they can they can actually do that what do you know about cattle mutilation anything some of the cattle mutilation you know the stuff that I've actually studied I'm it's a little bit unclear to me about what the actual motivation is of some of the people that do it but some of it is actually a call activity so literally yeah and so and part of that is it's the they're still what they're

doing is is they're inverting the sacrifice so all you know in the no testament all the sacrifices of the animals were actually just to lead up or a a type or a pre-figurement to Christ right and so what they do is they do these the rituals are like the inversion of those things in the Old Testament or they where they're sacrificing animals and doing specific things in a cult activity to empower themselves so a lot of those I've heard I haven't you know it's not

something I can verify or vouch for 100% but I've talked to a lot of police officers in areas like that and they say yeah there's a there's a satanic covenant over here there's this which is getting involved in this type of stuff too and so they they'll say that you know you'll see those kinds of things and where there's a high degree of our high number of people involved in the in the cult arts what about the connection between demonic possession and suicide I just

can't help but notice that the second the demons enter the pigs they kill themselves

yeah they have an animal still and they want to destroy everything they get in in contact with in fact one during one session that I actually had with Belsburg which is another name for Satan because there's a peer under Satan is one thing but to have him to possess something under the aspect of Belsburg is another matter but at one point I just said basically the reason you hate everything is because whenever you see creation you see him isn't it referring to God and he says yes

“that's why I wanted to destroy everything so they have that they they do drive suicide now people”

can commit suicide on their own that for example as you probably know there's certain SSRIs that actually have an 80% suicide ideation rate right so there's you can people can have you can people can commit suicide or have that inclination from that but the demons also will begin picking at the person so one of the things that the demons do is they try from the very beginning of our lives they'll start tempting us with certain things when they see us being born

because the knowledge of these things are infused in their mind they actually know what our DNA is and so they know okay because this guy's genetic disposition he's more likely to be inclined at these kinds of sins and not those so they'll start picking at the kid from a very early age about tempting him to do certain things in that area and their goal is not just to get him to commit sin and offend God although that's the primary reason but it's to slowly build a psychological

compatibility because each time you give into that you create a set of habits in you and you create these defects that make you much more easily and intertwine with them for sure and and so they're actually building that and so what happens is a lot of times when you see with suicide not all cases because some cases are it's entirely natural right it's a psychological issue that's brought this about but we've seen this with people who are possessed a lot of times in fact

every person that I've known this possessed has had this very strong and sometimes they say uncontrollable inclinations to suicide but they know that it displays his God so they don't how does a person know well how does person get possessed by a demon and then how does he know he's possessed

there's three ways so the first is you commit some grave sin like abortion murder

engaging in the occult arts is one of the principal ways that we see people becoming possessed

opens the door in the catholic sphere we call out a moral sin something that's really grave

“that you commit and those sins can open you up to diabolic influence now the way it works”

though is because Christ has perfect power over the demons we open the door but to be able to step across the threshold Christ has to give them permission so most people who do stuff that's really bad don't become possessed because of the fact that Christ just doesn't allow because

it's not gonna be good for the person ultimately even though they've opened up the door so they've

done something really bad that's about 50% of our case load is that and you ask but the person yes because we want to know what could be the cause of the entry because if we know how the demon got in a lot of times that's going to tell us how you're going to get them out and so we very often want to know that specific kind of information the other 50% roughly is something really disordered or grave has happened to you so for example one case that I worked on the woman was

run over by a her sister ran her over with a car about 50% of our case load or women who've been

“raped molested psychologically or physically abused in a grave fashion and that disorder is the”

domain of the diabolic and so they can that opens the person up to getting possessed the woman

getting possessed and people say well that doesn't seem fair well that's true in one sense

on the other hand Christ permits it and what you find very often is as those especially the women you find this as they climb the way out they become some of the most holy people you ever meet because the amount of virtue they have to obtain to do engage in the battle becomes pretty significant how does a person I mean we're not encouraged to think that the torment we experience is the cause of demons right so how does a person realize weight I think I have some alien

being in me it gets to causation so if your torment is because you got a bad conscience because of the fact that you've been doing a lot of bad things well that's probably not necessarily diabolic so there's natural explanations it can be for it sometimes too you know like for example there's hypothyroiders and people can become depressed as a result of that so there can be natural organic causes for that but the other way that you would notice if there's no prior causation

but you just like you feel afflicted so we'll get people who like have been cursed and they said you don't just set in one day it was just depressed from that point on or it was just angry all the time from that point on I know someone that happened prominent person that happened

“too yeah and so so you have to look at the causation what did this come from and as I mentioned”

if it's diabolic obsession it'll switch on and switch off as an exercise will pray over people like that and you see a very distinctive pattern in this because as you're trying to assess whether this is demonic yes correct because sometimes it's just psychological right so we just so you show up you get the call I or someone I love I think is possessed you show up at the house and tell us what you do if you don't mind and how you make that determination so usual we'll do kind of

a initial intake or interview we actually have a vetting process because the the society of priest that I get we get about it ranges from anywhere right now it ranges anywhere from 400 to 800

requests for help a month and so I always tell people I got pretty good job security yeah considering

it was initially yeah but usually but the way you normally works is what they call the Roman model is you'll just sit down you'll talk to the individual and talk and what you're trying to do is get a sense of what they're experiencing first but then also the cause what could have been the cause in relationship to this was there a psychological thing that happened to you know where you raped when you're a kid or did your father abuse you or what happened you're looking for

specific things in their past you could explain it more on a cycle on a psychological level but then at a certain point there's actually a set of prayers that will actually say over the person and if it's psychological you won't see much of a change they might feel a little better when you pray over them but that's just because of the social interaction someone's listening to their problem right whereas if it's diabolical obsession all of a sudden they'll feel

just lifting and they feel like they're symptom free and they're like I was so fantastic I feel great now diabolical obsession is by degree and so what can happen is if it's really entrenched that feel of freedom and lightness will only last for like four or five hours at the most maybe a day at the most and then it'll set back in and then you'll pray over again and then you see this you kind of get this dolphin and pattern but they have to go they themselves have to fight

their way out there we put them on a prayer regimen and a spiritual regimen to fight their way out and then as you pray over them it'll slowly lift and then eventually they're freed but you'll see these distinctive patterns whereas if it's psychological it just will kind of flatline and so that's one of the ways that we can actually know but the the high drama moments that you described with the outset where the person when the demon is speaking to you through the

person sometimes and his voice sometimes and the demons voice yeah how often does that happen

maybe four of them I should have asked you to define terms what's the distinction between influence and possession so influences the broadest cat it's just the genus of how they so they can influence by temptation right oppression is where they attack your externals like your job situation things like that obsession is where they attack your psychological faculties primarily and they have such you and then possession is where they actually take possession of a specific part of

the body and then from there they'll drive obsession them up so all of us from time to time experience

the first sweet yes all of us are subject to what they call ordinary die-balk temptation

“yeah and that's why the Lord's Prayer says lead is not invitation delivers from the evil one”

exactly and then the the other forms are what we call extraordinary die-balk influencer extraordinary two reasons when they're above and beyond what most people experience but then the other part of it is is that they are rare they're rare or I should say so possession how do you know your you're confronting one of those unusual cases well the there are what we call the primary and secondary signs of possession the secondary signs are certain psychological patterns certain patterns will see

in the person's life of what's happening they can give us an indicator but they don't give us a certitude we give us a certitude as you'll pray with them and then you'll see a greater natural sign this is something that human being it's not capable of doing like morphing changing shape as I mentioned before or superhuman strength there was a case out in California a few years back where there's eight-year-old woman who had to have a walker to get in just to get into the case the

“sessions they had four beefy police officers there during this case and as soon as this demon”

manifested he just threw them all over the room so these are types of things or another case that a friend of mine had as it was a ten-year-old boy that two police officers there that were 250 pounds each he'd lifted them both off the ground at the same time with ease so these are these are so you'll see those particular kinds of things so another so we get unknown languages

foreign languages never yeah so that's the that's one of the other ones so uh speaking in languages

they've they've never studied now um there this is uh and so a lot of times um you know psychologists for a while were saying that oh well maybe the person's heard the language well I don't know of anybody who can hear a language want them be absolutely fluent in it right and so too there's languages like the the first case of possession ever dealt with this guy was for speaking a form of Phoenician that had been to funk for 3500 years so he's been for Phoenician yeah he did say and so

this is so so and fluently by the way so we're not talking about so this is not this is not a psychological issue um there's other things too uh so then so there's um speaking them foreign languages in fact it's kind of funny I had this one case where the demon um he uh Christ restricts what languages they can speak with you even though they know all the languages he was he restricts them and so in this particular case he was restricted speaking in Latin so I had to converse with him in Latin now my

Latin is decent but once in a while I'll you know when you're supposed to use the accusative I use the date of grammatically and he would just when I would do that I didn't do it right he would just ignore me like he just hadn't didn't have to put up with this right and so then I would correct my language who is the person he was occupied um it was actually it was a it was a woman that was actually possessed but not a Latin scholar no not not since she didn't even know Latin so at

the end of it I totally I commanded the demon to consider the fact that he'd actually improved my grammar he wasn't happy with that one so you mock them it's not it's not mocking them I just informed them and stuff that makes the it's painful for them because you don't want to mock them because that's that's um degrading right and we don't want to degrade we don't want to be involved in the degrading process it's the same reason why you don't call them names you know do you

even in the ritual there's a listing of names of theirs but you're not going to call them like you're hey stupid do this because they're not stupid right and the part of that is because they're looking they'll they'll be happy if you do that because of the fact that that means your your speeches are perfectly modest and so at least in relation to totally right yeah and so they get power they get power out of it so yeah I've seen this in the human realm yeah they're inviting

you certain people are clearly out of the influence of these things invite you to lower yourself

yes and invite you to mock and swear and degrade and like the second you do that they become

swollen with power I don't know if it's your experience but my experience with demons they're willing to take a beating to get that out of you they'll take the mockery they'll take those that you

“know you're cheating them badly if it means they're getting power over you yeah I think they're”

trying to incite you to become more like them that's exactly it that's exactly why I've seen that a lot

it's like anyone engaged in our political discourse have has took to what you're saying are like crazy but you know I you're talking about that psychological compatibility we have had just a lot of

“people today that are psychologically compatible with a lot of demons and that's why we're seeing”

that behavior these people are just psychologically compatible with them and what can you just restate what the qualities are that you see in people that are compatible with demons just like

to remember to avoid these things what are they well it's basically people that and this is actually

some of the secondary science of possession it's people who are have a tendency towards mendacity you know lying lying all the time do please it is there's I've made this comment even publicly about certain politicians you know you can tell that these people are in the goods with the devil because of the fact that every single thing they do maximizes damage within their capacity to do so you know you get you get around you do you get around people that are like oh yes yeah why I know

them even though they might have a veneer of respectability they're in a position of authority and they kind of conduct themselves a certain way everything they do I first know they don't show

“any like a normal I lie I have lied I hate lying but I have done it but when I do it or I think”

most people when they lie you know you kind of twitch a little bit you know why yeah it's the people who registered no concern at all about lying no that is a sign yes you think yeah absolutely yeah and that's that psychological compatibility or people that are willing to just sacrifice other people for the sake of them getting even some of the most modest of games you know where they're just they're and so the demons will just I mean they'll be happy to kill a bunch

of you know unborn children in order to empower themselves in relationship to you know say

one particular politician or another they're more than happy to do so wow the other third sign of

the international sign so one is things that are beyond human capacity which I mentioned speaking for in languages but the other one is a cult knowledge and that's in two forms so they'll uh I mentioned it earlier we mentioned it a little bit earlier about this woman who's making theological distinctions you know the the demon was making theological distinctions this is a form of knowledge that this woman didn't have but the other form of a cult knowledge is they

can know what's going on in the other room because as I mentioned it's all being infused in them

“as it happens as it occurs because that's how they're designed to know things that's how God made”

them to know things he just infuses them as it happens so they'll actually know like what you ate for breakfast this morning or they'll know things about your past history one of the things that you'll see from time to time is that they actually know your sinful history and so when if you go into a session and um because you know we've we see this from time to time if one of our assistance has you know that there's some some sin that they haven't confessed you know then what

happens is the demon knows that because as far as the demon is concerned is if you don't confess your

sins then basically they're out of two days well then I still have power over you because you're

still under me it's when she confess your true yeah then it's evolved and then boom and so as a result of that they know that and so you'll start the session and all the demons will point out hey this guy over here he did xyz this morning and this person didn't even see that guy until the session started so they'll have a cult knowledge and those particular kinds of things and so those are kind of the indicators they're like okay I'm not dealing with somebody who's uh that this isn't a

psychological issue this is natural now one of the things that people often ask is well what about levitation is that a prayer or natural sign yes and no because there has been um it's uh there has been cases of like there was a there was a that's a saint in the Catholic Church who would actually levitate when he'd said mass right and so um and he was a very saintly man they even did exercise and so everything made the guys possess and nothing you know so um well the Pharisees accused

Jesus who being possessed yes that's right it's right and then uh but then you can also have levitation occur in an infested building which is not too common so people will be in bed and all of a sudden from the field themselves getting dragged out or pulled up or lifted up off their bed and that type of thing people have seen that that's a very rare but you but you as actually this we we hear about that from time to time and so that doesn't necessarily mean the

person's possessed plus all the people that are possessed not everybody levitates when they're possessed some do some don't and so um levitation is just not that common but you see it from time to time and so it it's not a necessary sign that the person's possessed but if you see a a bunch of secondary signs you know around the person and you're dealing with them uh and then you're are you start praying over them and then the demon more for changes shape and levitation will then

then you know okay that's that's something that's that's that's prater and actual there's a scene in uh in the gospels in Mark where uh man brings his demon possessed boy who's

exercise the demon that's Jesus walks up and kind of scolds them and then does so and they say why were we able to do it and we weren't he says because this kind of demon can only be exercise through prayer and fasting what does that mean um well it means that uh how you get a demon out of somebody uh varies so Christ said by my name you'll cast out demons what he did not say is by my name you'll cast out all demons and the way we know that is precisely this scene

in the gospels where he they they they were using his name but it wasn't having the effect and so

they actually have to do prayer and fasting and basically what that means is the prayer is to um

to a petition God enough in just as we prayer praying to him asking him to to uh do enough prayers so that the person will actually be liberated this is one of the reasons why we actually have people praying like the assistance during the possessions um and outside of sessions we have people that will do um spend hours praying for the person's liberation so that we get that done the other part is through fasting the fasting is uh goes back to St. Paul was St. Paul's

“bring your body under subjection right so you you you you have to fast in order to get your um”

to get your lower faculties under control to some degree and by doing that it's a maritorious work which God will actually and you can offer that so that this person will actually become

liberated in the process the other reason is an exercise so I fast six days a week when I when I'm

in session and the reason for that what does that mean it means having one moderate meal in the in the in the evening that's it each day so I have nothing for breakfast nothing for lunch and I have a moderate meal at night and I do that for six days and part of that is just to um because um when we become uh when we get our body under subjection two things occur when demons don't want to get involved with you because if they attack you and try to suggest something to you

that's contrary to that subjection you're going to reject it outright so it's going to get defeated very easily and you're going to be and by that you're also developing virtues here in power to be able to kick them out much more easily when we're weak they can take advantage of us but the other

“part about it is is that um and you've probably noticed this even with yourself you should be”

starting to grow in virtue and you start saying I got to get this part of my life straightened out

you become much more sensitive in that area that you've cleaned up so for example people who stop using profanity all the sudden involved guarantees all the sudden when they hear it it jars them right what's the same thing in relationship to demons so as you fast if the demons attack you you're much you're much more sensitive to it and so that disorder because you've got it under your body is now rightly ordered and so as a result you quickly do you quickly detect them and then

this so they don't want to attack you so in addition to they don't want to attack you but also you have a certain amount of protection but also you can offer that fasting up so that this person is actually liberated the people that are possessed sometimes will also need to fast given the nature sometimes the nature of the demon that they're dealing with they need to fast in order

“to break the possession you said you've I think you said you've cast out Satan himself twice”

now Satan once so Satan Lutheran be Elizabeth or the same guy yeah and so which Christ himself even said it right because the the the Jews accuse him of casting out Satan by the power of be Elizabeth right how can I house divided yeah it's he's casting out Satan say how can how can Satan cast out Satan so he turns it says or I know sorry excuse me they're casting out by the power of beels above right and he says well how can Satan cast out Satan so he he's the father

it's a Patricia commentators on that scripture it said that that's an indicator that Satan beels him over the same guy and then Lucifer was his original assigned name because Lucifer comes from Luciferay which means to bear light he was supposed to enlighten our minds and that was his originally signed task and refused to do so but then after that so I actually had a case which at a certain point during one of the sessions demons will be compelled to say things that

you're not even asking them god tells me you gotta tell this guy x y and z and that's to keep the case moving along and out of the blue he just to demon just splurits out it was beels but blats out I'm the mockery of the Holy Spirit and then he checks out he can't get him back to the surface he just wouldn't we got us what purpose I did so I'm thinking to myself well I know beels above and and Satan are the same guy so man I started asking you know started praying

getting some you know give me the grace to see what am I seeing here right and we also know that Lucifer he was originally Lucifer and then it it dawns to me so in as an actresses we deal with cases of dissociative identity so we're which is multiple personality it looks like possession but it's actually not possession okay and so it dawned on me this guy's it was a try-for-cated

and he just lit up like how did you ever figure that out right what was it grace obviously so then

“I basically beat out of and so peyels above is the inversion of the Holy Spirit and Lucifer is”

the inversion of the second person in the Trinity because Christ is light from light right which we

were even saying John's gospel and then Satan is the father of life who's the inversion of God the father so you it basically have this unholy Trinity so then I I commanded him to tell me was this try-for-cation of your personality the punishment for wanting to be God and after a little bit of beating he said yes and then he basically admitted he suffers the same thing that people who suffer from dissociative identity disorder he suffers the same they're in constant pain as a

result of this try-for-cation and this actually so I thought to myself well you know somebody had to have talked about this historically I can't be the first guy to kind of stumble across this well low and behold there was a case in France in the 1600s where this exact same thing played

“itself out and they they talked about this and then the father's talk about it in bits and pieces”

so that's actually know that his his personality he was punished with this try-for-cation is personality and that would explain why actresses would experience beels above Lucifer and Satan in very different ways what about this guy invited Satan rather than one of the lesser demons well this it wasn't actually a guy it was actually a woman who became possessed by Satan because she was the victim of satanic ritual abuse yeah and so at a literally right off the bat in her life

so she common is that when I first started doing actresses and work most of the cases that we would

see of that were from satanic ritual abuse in the 80s which is when it really picked up steam and then it kind of went on a bit it kind of plateaued out a little bit but now we're starting to see a lot of the cases from stuff that's been happening in the last 15 to 20 years so the probably if you're talking about cases of possession or the cases that well let's just talk about the cases that come to us that have satanic ritual abuse it's not that many but it's enough that it takes up a

significant amount of our time to clean these people up as a result of it the not have happened

“to that woman she was liberated finally now did her wife turn out do you think she's I think”

she's I think she's a very holy woman I think she's a very good woman and the she's still has to deal with some diabolical pressure but I think that she's she and her husband have really come up to speed and their spiritual lives so they're doing I think they're doing better than I think they think they're doing but I think she's she's doing fine how long does it typically take to save a person from possession it depends on the degree of the possession because possession is

by degree that is how deep the possession actually is if you have something like satanic ritual abuse it's gonna take a while if it's generally speaking whereas sometimes I've actually had cases of possession where things have happened bad like this one woman had she was molested when she was younger

but she was never complicit she didn't want it and she was always tried to lead a good Christian life

et cetera so three sessions boom she was cleaned up there's cases of children that are possessed those go much more rapidly there's usually just a few sessions but if you're talking about an adult usually the average case and this is something which even the exercise in Rome have made this observation as well the average time table is 4 to 8 years years can you exercise a demon from a person against that person's will no because if the person gives if the person actually wants the

demon to be there God respects their free will and that empowers the demon to remain so you can't get anywhere what are those persons lives like they're miserable the other living in hell yeah there was one actually at one case where the exercise is to train to me said hey there's this one woman I can't get to where would you take a look at her I said you'll take a look at her so I went in and normally speaking I would say it's serious of purse keep myself protected when I went in and then

clean you know and protected on the way out but I totally forgot to do this and so I went in I started talking to her and she was possessed all right she was showing signs of printer natural knowledge I mean she there's the not types of knowledge she had it's like wow that's pretty but she liked it she didn't want it so I told her well look I can't I can't really help you in relationship to this and so you know if you want to be if you wanted to cut bait with these guys I'm willing to help you

gout gout I just like you got a medieval illness perfect yeah exact so and everything I did I even took

those tablets that are supposed to help you clean out the reag acid nothing didn't touch it's the most painful it was just I've had it shocking yeah so and don't on me a week later you take it with a clue in being an exercise I wonder if that woman cursed me so I said a prayer to break the curse and within an hour it would all clear it up really so I called the priest that had sent her to me and usually he'll pick up the phone well he didn't pick up the phone two weeks later he

calls back to you know I would have called you but I got the worst case of gout I've ever had I said dude you've been you've been cursed and I said let me guess right toe big foot you know big big toe in the right foot yeah yeah how'd you know I said what you've been cursed

“so he said the prayers boom it lifts up a year later the another priest says well I think”

she's had a change of heart I'm said okay well this time I went in and I said some prayers kept last Saint Michael that protects me but I apologize for cursing you I know so what happens is I I just I said some prayers to keep myself protected but I also said a prayer which another excess has taught me which is extraordinarily effective which is Jesus if this if she tries to curse me I ask you or if I then cursed I ask you to send the curse back from whence it came

but if that's not your holy will in either case keep me protected now there's a reason for that is because if the person this is why high level witches will not get involved in cursing with peep cursing people as a general rule because they know they can become subject to the very curse that they put on people so this so I went in talker oh no she's still liked the cult knowledge you know she really liked knowing but her husband was up to you know that kind of thing

even though he was never not even around her so I just gave her the same story so so she was

getting knowledge that an old person wouldn't that's right she knew what her high the demons would tell her this is what your husband's doing et cetera and it was accurate right and that's how you know it's true it's actually accurate well so I left and then about a week later I

“called the priest that had wreck it you know said I think she's out of change how to say well”

well you know how she doing she said right after you left she ended up in the hospital and she's still there yeah so the this is you know the cursing is one of those things that the the you know people can become subject to it the main thing they have to do is make sure that they're leading an authentic Christian life not doing anything sinful that would open the door for the demons so they become subject to the curse have you ever seen a phenomenon where someone

is acts it on by God clearly inspired by the Holy Spirit has a has a closer connection to God the normal and then shortly after is attacked hard by demons yes yes that's a common yeah that's the action yes okay so the way demons tend to function is they tend to like to go after easy prey but because and this is something that I've learned about them because Christ has perfect course of power of them which we saw in the casting out of the Legion right and they and

“and they can't do anything without his permission but he but that also means that he they are subject”

to him and that means that they are his instruments and so he can use the demons to as an instrument of our sanctification and purification so we go for comes to get her difficulties and so a lot of times God will allow the person who's leading a really good Christian life to come under attack in order to draw them draw them even closer to him than they actually are or to purify them or to make them more whole it or help them to overcome a particular defect because the demons

using that against them and so from time to time you'll actually see that and so the demons are there is he uses them and he tells him we call it conscription hey you got to go deal with this and they'll they'll admit it I didn't want to be here but I hear him really yeah huh so the experience is designed to instruct the person who's being deflected by that's right

to instruct them to gain knowledge about okay this is how this works but also to to to basically

help them to grow even greater in in virtue I mean if the demons are kind of like tempting you towards that as you say lost attempting you towards lost and you combat that the degree of your virtue when you come out of it is going to be stronger than if it's just natural human that's correct yeah and so that's a lot of times why God will allow it so the person becomes even taller even more virtuous than they would outside that context the demons actually

hated especially when you see in these cases of possession the like as I mentioned some of these women would become extremely holy and I'll just mention to the demon you know you're becoming this person's instrument of sanctification they'll admit it's true and they hated

well the main thing to do is stop sending especially the more serious stuff like you know stop orientating stop doing all this stuff looking at pornography because the pornography is what we're seeing the real uptake in obsession and stuff really you you see this yeah so the the number of people becoming diabolically obsessed through pornography and even possessed we've seen a drastic uptake

and really and that yeah yeah you know when I was first a when I was first a priest you

people come to confession of a priest so when I was first a priest the guys that would confess pornography you didn't hear that too often because you had to go buy it and it was a shame involved well now that became ubiquitous on the internet you can do it in the privacy of your home the man the confession is almost you know it's pretty high up there and so what we're seeing is is that but also the fact that a lot of the pornography is cursed to increase it's addictive

effect that was one of the things that the Satanists taught the people in the porn industry cursed the master copy and then from that the copies that are made will influence the people and so they they do that and then people become so you believe the porn industry is controlled by Satanists I don't know if it's controlled by it my impression is these are just bad

“dudes before the most part I think that they're influenced by them it doesn't mean that”

they aren't Satanists that are involved in the porn industry I suspect they're probably are but I just think that it's they're the ones who taught them this is what you do and this will boost the addictive effect of it and so there's one extra sister wasn't wasn't me but there was another extra sister that I know of who's a good friend of mine he had a case where the the guy

became possessed and finally there's a certain stage where the demon gets weak enough he can

compel him how did you get in and he said pornography I believe that and so then the after the session he asked the guy what's the you know what happened and he said he said yeah I was I think he said I would believe it's pornography said I watched this one pornography that they had this one woman on it and then after that something snapped or changed and from that point on I had to see every piece of pornography she ever made I was just driven obsessively to find her

so this is the so that's one of the ways that they get in so so answer your question

“there's a few things one is person fasting you pray you should be praying regularly anyway”

as a Christian you should be praying and if you're praying regularly you can pray for your own protection that's actually one of the reasons I gave the book deliverance prayers for the lady which is right there but that book actually contains a number of prayers did it drafted you don't have to use those you can use your own but this gives you kind of an outline or a structure they say okay this is how this works so consistent prayer life a discipline prayer life you have to be very discipline

the second part of it is is fasting which is also true stop the sinning the one thing that we

have found this is something that one of my lay assistants this was about three years ago we started noticing a very pattern because that's about we watched we watch for patterns because demons act in a very consistent way and what we started noticing is the people that the demons attack whether that's attacking their externals through oppression or through obsession and even in temptation some cases are people that there's some area of their interior life

that is undisciplined you know they eat too much or they're not you know when it comes to chocolate they're a little too indulgent you know instead of just trying to moderate those things not that those things are bad it's got to concentrate they're good but they have to be moderated or the person just doesn't moderate like their irritation or anger and certain circumstances things like that so there's some area of their life that's undisciplined sometimes it's just they're

“not praying you know you should be praying on a consistent basis every single day I mean if you”

really love God if you really love him you don't want to be with him and that occurs through prayer a lot of people just don't do that also if you understand the world well enough to be terrified by it comma which she should be yeah comma yeah then you will seek safety and prayer I think that's exactly yeah and also the prayer because you're lifting your mind and heart to God was one of the definitions of prayers lifting your mind and heart to God it gets

that right order in your own mind and so it gives you clarity so that you you know when you see the insanity in the world you can still navigate and it doesn't affect you as much but that's that undisciplined somewhere in their spiritual life that is if people are getting attacked you have to start figuring out okay where you undisciplined this is what you need to get that cleaned up and it'll solve man that is I think whether you believe in God or not you can see that that's true

yeah are you hopeful for the country since you seem to pay attention to the whole country not just yes and no if you by hopeful you mean in the sense that human beings are going to correct this

you look at the corruption in the higher levels of government in that everything but I am also hopeful that Christ you know if you look at the history of how God deals with human beings he'll let us

“be evil only for so long and then he gives us a suspension so I think that Christ is going to”

correct it it probably fairly soon I mean who knows when that is but I think we're getting to the point where you know especially in a post Christian era we're almost as bad as Sodom and Gamora I mean I tell people look at Sodom and Gamora at least they weren't trying to marry each other you know no it's true yeah and so but so I think that we've gotten to the point where that God is going to to punish us but in a way that a good father corrects his son when he's doing

bad things right do you think that the first thing that jumps to mind is through war yeah nuclear weapons

and I and I wonder about the role of technology in all of this so you said when you started the people with porn problems bought the porn and that's a small number but thanks to technology it's embedded you know universal porn use yes yeah you look at something like AI or nuclear weapons specifically hard not to think that that was demonically inspired well obviously these are these are natural things which we could discover on our own whether the

demons actually inspired people to start pursuing this I think the real problem is the use of them that's where the real problem is so AI I mean I use AI to do research yeah and

“the although you have to be careful you have to even fit that because a lot of it's based on”

the language models of course is based on what's out there generally so a lot of times there's garbage but a lot of times it puts you in the ball parks you can quickly find stuff which is a very

helpful so it's a very powerful and useful tool it's a good thing but we've already seen people

using it for evil and and this is one of the reasons why I think that as time goes on it's going to be even become more and more evil the types of evil we're going to see coming from these things are going to be pretty significant I think well I mean Sam Altman's already announced it open AI will allow anyone to create their own porn yeah that's it yeah so but but the cycle that you're describing is a society falls into decadence and evil yeah and then it's

corrected through punishment that's right and you think we're getting pretty close to the punishment stage of the cycle if God is consistent which he tends to be yeah and that's not a terrible thing no it's going to be painful it's like the kid you know when he gets spanked it's painful but then he realizes okay this is not good I'm not going to do this anymore and so we God wants us to be able to see the effect of the evil there's a certain sense with that's already

happening right in the sense that the more evil we become the more difficult and afflicted living in this culture is becoming yes so we're already spaying the price for our sin to

“some degree but we're still on a course we're not correcting ourselves that I think some people are”

some people like this is just evil I got to get my eye together right but that's not that's not the whole of the culture but but at a certain point God's I think going to have to correct it himself I think that all the time you know for every aborted child there's you know another homeless fentanyl addict or something I mean it's all sounds like so last question which is about drugs in alcohol and the role that demonic influence plays in addiction so addiction is actually

threefold the first is there's actually a brain mechanism there's addiction yeah and then there's

the set of habits that revolve around that and those are also kind of a natural thing that people can actually develop but then there can be layered on top of that the demons can actually drive the addiction so they can through ordinary temptation you know just say hey there's there's the alcohol again let's go drink let's go do this remember all this fun that you actually had when you did this and so they can actually drive that the demons also have the ability to block our remembrance of things

to remember things and so part of the virtue of prudence is the virtue of memory remembering the right things at the right time yes so right so you know like you know last time I drank I I paid the price the next day well they can make you focus on the good thing you got out of this and and forget all the pain you went through right so they can do that the other thing is two is the demons can also they can because they can act upon us physically that is you know brain

and that's everything they can actually cause a mimicking of addictive experiences so there was a woman that I actually knew that she would come to me and and she didn't have the history or the habit building of an alcoholic but she had the tendencies for it and she would drive from time to time she would she would struggle in that area so what I did is I started praying over her for any demons of obsession relationship to addiction and she she said every time I would pray

over her she would go about a week without any addictive feelings whatsoever now I'm not suggesting

get involved in the addiction and the demons get involved in that yeah so but but they can also drive

“those things in relationship to certain people we also see this in relationship to people who are”

possessed so I and it's a very common that sugar is a big addiction the demons drive and people who are possessed you know really yeah where they just they can't stay away from the sugar I had to had one case this was kind of interesting I had gotten to the point this woman that was

it was undergoing actresses and from possession was a very virtuous woman like why you know why

am I getting this guy out right and so at a certain point doing one of the sessions I commanded to him and she was possessed yeah she was possessed I said at a certain point I said I said

“um I said to the demon I I commanded the demon to tell me what is it you have on her right and”

he just looked at me and he said pop meaning soda yeah so he checked out asked her I said do you have a problem with soda and she said I cannot go a day without rewarding myself with it she says I just can't do it and then once the possessions broke boom they don't they don't even have the inclination towards it so they can drive those kinds of things but again I'm not suggesting that everybody who has these addictions because these things are

just addictive by nature and people built developed their own but in possession sugar addiction wow sugar addiction I'm not surprised even a little bit I'm just surprised you said that I allowed that's like because it's so clearly true yeah why do you think it's true because I've just seen it and felt it and I just know that there's some kind of connection

because it causes compulsion yes exact and compulsion is always a sign to me as a total

element but like compulsion really what's that the compulsion to harm yourself yeah there's no evolutionary theory that can account for that right right yeah exactly yeah yeah and a lot of times I'll look just to see what our disposition is like I said before dispositions are not drawing those areas suggestions you know whether it's to particular kind of food or whether it's particular kind of thing although with man eating a lot

of meat I get that you know but but but when it comes to the actual but other things that are very addictive like sugars alcohol things like that meat does not cause compulsion it can't you can't eat two pounds of meat of beef you can eat two pounds of chocolate though yeah you can that's true and then wait an hour in another two pounds you can't do that with steak no you can't that's true although they uh they do know that um that chocolate actually gives it

reasons and door fins when you get it and it's even more effective in women apparently for what I've read from the brain studies but with men they say you just show them a picture of meat and his brain lights up which is why I tell people look if a guy doesn't like meat

“something wrong yeah I think that's totally fair yeah father that was amazing and I appreciate”

you're doing it but thank you for having me thank you for shooting very much