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Russell Brand: The People Trying to Imprison Him, Trump’s Fall, Speaking to God, and His Mayoral Run

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When politicians tell you they’re Christians, it makes you wonder if Jesus endorses greed, violence and arrogance. Russell Brand answers that question in his new book, How to Become a Christian in 7 D...

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I'm ready. How many farther thank you for this chance there for us to be together where

two or more gathered you are present Lord. Can you hope us to put aside any

prejudices or biases that we might carry into it? Can you help me Lord not to look at Tucker as a person that exists for my benefit or to facilitate me but to know that he is like me a person that's broken and that will die one day and that we here to love one another and serve one another and by the way we love one another they will know that we are in you and that you are in our squad. Let's communicate graciously and with grace

and do nothing that the son is your name or your kingdom which we are here to serve however you decree we pray in the name of God the Father with all your infinite creativity and wisdom. God the Son with your compassion and your holy sacrifice taken on our sin and God the holy ghost who moves among us mysteriously now in communication and endless unity. Amen. Amen. Thank you.

Boy that is the prayer isn't it? Not to look at people as someone who can do something for you.

Yeah so we'll rectify even powerful people. So you were just you were just reading me

is that why I want to talk about your book and I want to talk about your journey as a Christian and we will but I just can't resist this. You were just reading me from Daniel in your marginally a filled Bible from Daniel 11 and I was just so so struck by I took a picture of it and said it's like 20 people can you read the passage that you just read me? It's from Daniel 11 36. The king will do as he pleases he will exalt and magnify himself above every God and we'll say

unheard of things against the God of Gods. Please. He will be successful until the time of Roth is completed for what has been determined must take place. He will show no regard for the Gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women nor will he regard any God but will

exalt himself above them all. Instead of them he will honour a God of fortresses, a God

unknown to his ancestors. He will honour with gold and silver with precious stones and costly gifts. He will attack the mightyest fortresses with the help of a foreign God and will greatly honour those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price. At the time of the end the king of the south will engage him in battle and the king of the north will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great

fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. He will also invade the beautiful land. Many countries will fall by Eden, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. He will extend his power over many countries, Egypt will no escape. He will gain control over the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt with the Libyans and the Kushites in submission. But reports from the east and the north will alarm

him and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. He will pitch his royal tents between the seas of the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end and no one will help him. Ripped from the headlines. That was just so striking to me. Shocking. Actually, I've read it, I don't want to completely miss that. It hits differently right now. How often do you read the Bible? Well, every day I was reading the Bible in one

year by Nicky Gumball and obviously the Bible is not by Nicky Gumball, but I'm sure even come close to making that claim as many Christians. If someone's I feel like I've made it up. I'm brilliant for like even now. I'm trying to take credit for reading this out. Yeah, I've understood this in a way no one else has. Anyway, I started off with that, which is like having training wheels on a bicycle and then I left it on a plane and I thought,

wow, I'm going to have to just start reading it. Now every day I read the scripture for about an hour and I pray and meditate as well as reading some devotionals and doing some breath exercise. I remember when I met a year ago, he's holding this with that alarm. Someone said, like, you know, oh, he meditates like eight hours a day and what does that seem as excessive. But now, like what else is there to do, except being continual prayer and creasingly as my walk with him,

yoke to him continues, I recognize any time I let go of his hand, any time I step back into even neutrality, neutrality, metastasizes immediately into self and therefore sin. I see sin now, tuck a knot as the transgression of stealing or lying or whatever, but as the mental state that precedes it, when I'm in that mental state, where I suddenly elevate myself, like Lucifer,

like the fallen one, I think I can create my own circuitry, my own neurological circuitry

without his angelic agency. As soon as I'm in that, I belong to the world again. I belong to

Empire.

tyranny, I bear there in signature, not his. It was you, in fact, that made the observation

one of the times you met, I think I've been one of your tremendously successful and well-attended

live shows in Fort Lauderdale. I'm still showbiz, I still know how to do those bits. And like we were, I showed you this bit from all well, and you said, well, you said, all well, and this is probably the most recent American electoral cycle. You said that all well, understood Soviet communism well, and at this point you said, in 1984, he's talking about social democracy's tendency to evolve towards, or degenerate one might say, towards tyranny.

And we discussed together, oh, wow, what is all, all well's most famous, maximum, if you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever, and in that moment, I think, both you and I discussed. Yes, and what is the face? That is the image of God. They are annihilated in the image of God. They remove the image of God. Once the image of God, our personal imputure, our signature, the Hieroglyph, he's presently in us, the creator of

meaning, without whom there cannot be geometry, mathematics or music, but even meaning itself, he is a storyteller, our Lord. He comes and tells stories to show you that meaning itself is what we must align with. Because, you know, when people say, oh, it's astrological, the three kings and the Virgin is the starver, it's a natural logical description of movements, and a Cyrus was this. And ISIS was that. And Dionysus meant that. And they tried to say that

Christianity isn't unique, particular and special, that the incarnation of God, that these principles being made fleshed in established the new frequency through the Holy Spirit. They try to say, it's just another story. When you go into the word, you feel it. You know it. It changes you.

It reverses and undoes so much. Your whole life, CS Lewis says, Tucker, your whole life is redeemed.

You look back at all of it. The father, and you see it differently. The career, you see it differently.

You see that you were being prepared always for this. So CS Lewis says in the great divorce,

when you accept him, your whole life will have been heaven. If you reject him, you are impurgatory forever. And why do they stay impurgatory in the great divorce? I'm recommending greed, the great divorce, is because they won't let go of their earthly identity. They won't let go of it. We have to let go of that. In order to receive the kingdom, we have to let go of who we are in shame, who we are in fear, who we are to the world. And once you do that, you're kind of already dead. But you're also

in a tonal life. And that's what's been amazing about watching you in the last month, in particular, is a sort of the jaw-dropping boldness and bravery that sometimes can seem like frightening. Well, not to me. I've never felt calmer. But no, yeah. I mean, just don't care at all. Um, why would I? Nothing. I mean, you know, winning the thing, the prizes that are held out for us. I haven't won them all. One of you. Not that great. You know, not that great. That's not

over here. So um, but the you've been a reader, your entire life, even when you were like a dissipate, and in Hollywood, you're still red a lot. How was reading the Bible different from reading

even more? Well, how it's different? Firstly, I've not read even more. What? What's right?

We're kidding? I'm lazy. I'm an auto-diadact and like Woody Allen, he says with the

auto-diadact superficial. I've never been properly educated. So everything's thin across the top.

This is the first time I've gone deep into anything. How it's different? How it's different type of something? What I've accrued culturally is that it moves effortlessly into mystery. It is divine and profound truth. Now, I think that one of the conversations we might have is if you think during the brief time that you and I have both, I'm going to say the word transition to now, but don't panic transition from mainstream media into whatever this is. This kind of

independent media. What that's been accompanied by, if one envisages a spectrum and at one end of it, the New York Times, the BBC, MSNBC, one might even include Fox and more sort of particular flavors of mainstream media. And over here, your Alex Jones, your David Eich. Where is the needle moving? Well, it's obviously moving radically in a direction that Alex Jones and David Eich have been in some time. That's not to say that either of those two men are without flaws.

Of course, I wouldn't make that claim for any human being. But during that time, people have started to look at pedophile rings, conspiracies, global events that seem to manage to manipulate the possibility and potential that real power is not government or political, but is in fact controlled by institutions that are imperial, transcendent of global boundaries. And may even be a cultist and dark and demonic. I mean, certainly the trend is moving in that direction.

And I think one of the great challenges for people that are telling the truth at a public level

To a lot of people is how do we remain in that, which is corroborateable.

important here is when you're dealing with people that might say, there are demonic forces of work, there are cultists, there are pedophiles, they're doing child sacrifices. Well, it's all in here. Like when I try to come into the Lord or rather more accurately, him coming to me, I felt I knew what was in the Bible because I thought I understood right. I didn't read it, but I got the idea, totally. I get the chance. I felt the same. Yeah. And so I felt it's going to

be about ethics and morality and sort of a kind of a rather, obviously, piety. But I sort of felt that it might be a bit, um, anemic. But what was, what's really struck me is it moves between

sort of like Smith. So powerful that it takes you to the sort of edge of what consciousness can

ever comprehend. Obviously, while telling you that's what it's doing. My ways are not your ways.

Do not conform to the patterns of this world. The evil one is in control of this world. We find organs flesh and blood, but we fight against the authorities, the rulers, the dark, heavenly powers, all these things are in there. My children, don't worship false idols. Don't make God's with your own hands out of metal and then stare at the whole time. Like you will, you will glimpse God as if through a glass or perhaps for contemporary language, as if through a mirror, darkly,

it'll be like you're looking at yourself and you see that Christ is in you and coming through you. But then you will return to yourself again. You will flick it in and out. Let's see the promise of Christ is redemption. That means you are owned by Him and there is a restoration of the original state. It has been completed. Our God breaved life into the dirt man, Adam, and Christ on the cross

excels. The final breath is finished. It's possible for us to return to absolute harmony with God.

For us to live not in some utopian afterlife, but in the present moment to be in the kingdom of heaven, which our Lord said is here, ever present and all around us. I did not anticipate the depth of the mystery that we live among forces undecernable to the senses and jelly and indeed demonic, that there are dark energies that are affecting us and impacting us and attacking us and significantly

controlling the most powerful institutions in the world. And that is not North Korea.

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in fact, I believe it to such an extent. It's kind of hard to remember when I didn't

believe it. Yeah. But as you look back in your own now redeemed life, do you see those forces that work on you? Yes. I see the work of those forces and I see the presence of God. I see continually this unfolding discourse throughout time. My own little life. I see I'm being shown this, I'm being offered that. You know, one of the things I'd forgotten Tucker is that at the point of

first becoming famous, there was a kind of glory in it. And by true glory, I don't mean personal

glory because anything that's personal is not true glory at all. There was a moment where a world that continually said no to me suddenly after decades said yes. But suddenly the golden light was upon me and open that I was appearing on television. People was saying yes to book deals. I was in movies. I was experiencing, and this is where I think I went wrong, a abundant sex, for example. And as that took hold, that's where I feel and see the presence. That I, you know, the

tenter, the accuser, the fallen one, the enemy, requires our complicity. I did participate. I did participate in elevate in false gods. I did allow sex to become a kind of idol, fame to become an idol. And none of those things are possible. If you don't first fall into self, I consider sin to be in

Self, in self.

I crawl upon the floor. I'm only a belly. We're continually in the garden. And we're continually

as Renne Girard, obviously observed observing Satan fall from heaven like lightning because he

wants his own kingdom. I'm continually believing the lie. The lie that I'm worthless, the lie that I'm ugly, the lie that I'm shameful, the lie that I don't deserve to be successful. I enter into that lie. And once I'm in that lie, then I belong to the world. Now I have to prove myself in the world. I have to make myself beautiful, lauded and applauded, celebrated, adored. I have to perform all of those rituals before his altar. If I don't stay with the one that made me, it's an apostasy

to be in this world. You don't convert the Christianity. You let go of the false conversion

of being in this world where you have been placed by the evil one, by the enemy, lured, tempted,

hypnotized. We all understand it. We all understand the idea of maximally the counterfeit, the emulation, the simulation. You know, see when people posit about the right like the sci-fi version, perhaps we're already in a simulation. You don't need to use that lexicon. Through the electromagnetic moment, where century information is converted, you're logically in that hamster or century input, you live in a synthesized reality in your own consciousness. There are

peculiar inexplicable moments, as with all scientific disciplines, when you take it to it to its edgeland, i.e. between the synapses as electromagnetic energy travels around in the brain. There's a moment where it's hormonal. It's inexplicable. We're surrounded in every direction by endless miracle, which we nullify through dumb orthodox science, as we've witnessed that the length and in depth through the pandemic. We deny him continually. We are continually Eve.

We are continually looser for why does our Lord say when the heuristic disciples return saying, we moved among scorpions. We were casting out demons. He says straight away, and it's an odd non-secretur. I saw Satan fall from heaven, like lightning. You will move among demons. You will move among scorpions and snakes and do great healing, because your names are written in the book of heaven. What can that even mean? You are encoded. You are encoded. You are made. Did you see

that it looks like a cross? Some micro, micro-scopically observable level. There's a cross down in our DNA. There's so much poetry in it. Of course it's interpreted because interpretation is relationship. Of course people will say, you can use the Bible to prove anything you want to prove. But one of my teachers said, the main things are the plain things and the plain things are the main things. We're men and live here harmoniously with one another. We'll meant to be one human

family. You have to accept Christ as Messiah. If there's any particular group of people that deliberately

do not accept Christ as the Messiah, you might want to investigate that thoroughly and there's instructions

for how to do that in there. There's some powerful information in here that must be acted upon.

Now from the other side, from the countercultural perspective, there's a hell on this. You know, it's put the council of NYC or in all that kind of stuff. I'm thinking now of the sort of the people that you've surely we must pay our due to the likes of I can Alex Jones who clearly are current not actually because he's so sort of in the moment, isn't he? But David, I feel that you can't raise this weight of, I've been saying this for ages, I've been saying this for ages,

but what he doesn't do with love and respect him is honor that Christ is real, real, that this is a transcendent manifesto of all reality, the author of reality entered into his own story, the creator of the simulation entered into the simulation, to establish a new way of communicating and being.

And I think to forgive this rambles, is I think that what we're trying to do is look at

anodine and sanitary Christianity and look at where it needs to be revived and reignited. Then we're looking at a conspiracy culture that's endlessly grooming and tangled. We have to look at these two worlds and recognize that the same thing is being approached. And without the cross, without him, without personal acceptance of him, we'll just end up critiquing without energizing, we'll end up in dead tradition, just ashes and incense. And we have to

re-viverify this now. We have to participate in the resurrection. He says, I am, the resurrection. He says that when he brings back Lazarus. Can I ask just to move back a couple moments about your, you said you pray as you read? What is that? What is prayer exactly? I'm trying to recognize that there is a subjective experience and we might be told an objective experience and fruit prayer. Collapse that. The kind of Christianity that I feel like I've been

called to is a kind of a quantum physics, Christianity and of course I don't understand quantum

Physics no one does because it's sort of unknowable.

of observation, altars, physical reality, it's smallest observable, the smallest observable level.

So in prayer, it's an incantation to become who you really are and to be in absolute truth

and to recognize as with Paul's great analogy that we move in and out of Christ. Like that there are moments like now I feel alright. I feel like I'm doing this properly. I feel like I'm not trying to get anything from you and I'm not trying, I'm not frantically panicking about why the people think of me. But I know that we'll be points over the course of the day where I'll experience our temptation or intimidation and in those moments I'll lose myself prayer is to ensure

that we establish such a strong connection with God that it can withstand that we can sleep in the storm with Him, that when the storm comes and we know it's coming, that we can rest in the boat in total trust and faith in Him. Oh, jail. Okay. jail. Assassination. Okay. Assassination. Like that you well you when you no longer belong to the devil when you belong to Him then as Paul says good like I'm only here to talk to you lot I'll go now. I want to be with him. I want to see his face.

I want to see his face. I love him. But I know at the moment I'm meant to be here to be with you

to love you, to train with you, to be in discipleship and training together with you. I'm in question that's not a job to question it. So prayer is to collapse it, to collapse the wave particle, to live in the unknowable, to recognize that we are being made pure in Him and through Him in and of ourselves we do nothing. We do nothing. We saw what we did when we were in sin and he loved us then. I have a vision of you in B.C. and I know because you've told me and you've been

honest about it, cocaine and the things that I have assumed accompanied at and he loved you then and he died for you then and he bought that shame onto himself that you may know him and then when you are not he can't be with us when we're in sin. When we're not in sin, there he is. The Holy Spirit will dwell in you. Do you not know that your body is a temple? Do you not know? I'll go do you do not realize you pass odds. Otherwise you won't be living like that. Your body is for me to

live in. Stop using it to get stuff. Stop like putting pleasure on its sensory surfaces to try and defibrillate some synthetic spiritual experience when you're already here. You're already here. I'm here in you. He's here. He's here in his real now. It's quite psychedelic and the problem is that if I'm hungry or I'm fawny or I'm afraid then they've got me again and so now I try to do whatever I need to do to not go back there and it anticipates all of that. It tells me the flesh

is weak. It has so much guidance around sexual morality. It has so much guidance around power

and false power. It's always telling you this is what I intended you for but I had to give you

free will otherwise the whole thing will be pointless. It wouldn't have time in it. If there was no free will, it doesn't even need to happen because it's for four gong. But through his grace and through his greatness, we are parties are paying in something but don't you see, I'm they even now observing what they are calling large structures. I'm they even observing that the cosmos into there's intergalactic influence. Did you see Randall Carson? Never days sort of say that maybe things that

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An all systems of power attempt to impose a narrative that facilitates their further power. I realized after you, but like I realized that the problem with the kind of imperialism that would have occurred if Kamala Harris had been president is it's globalist and it's bureaucratic and it's managerial and they use compassion to maximize total control. I was not, you know,

Everyone's got 20/20 hindsight, but like, you know, the videos exist.

enjoyable public figure. I think he says what's on his mind in a way that's sort of almost unprecedented, but it's certainly seeming to become somewhat unpresidential in addition. What I didn't enter into was the idea that Trump, Maca, could be anything other than a bullvert against the annihilation of bureaucratic global imperialism. That's because I think a personality like that can slow things down and I think it's an obstacle, but the thing that's particularly disheartening about this war

and I know that you spoke about it extensively prior to the election of Trump with the Iranian war

is that this war would be happening if Kamala Harris was president anyway. That's what,

like, that's my very distant, hazy. I'm not really in this view is, oh, if someone as particular

personal and extraordinary on the human plane as Trump, ultimately ends up doing what the globalist

imperialist would have done anyway, then what are we all discussing when we're talking about America first and Magra and all of that stuff. So what I'm saying there is global bureaucracies is a terrible instantiation of Satan's count of it power omnipotence, omnicience, or omnipresence through technology, absolute ownership. Nationalism, I thought, would instill a temporary preservation at least of the nation, but the nation is corruptible and is corrupted and is fallen. And now I think

the call isn't you seem to understand it. I know you understand about the me historically and geopolitically and politically and nationally and domestically and I would rather have worked in the all of those ways, but what I know as a Christian is that there is something about your sovereignty in absolute submission to him that we need to tell people. There is something in the principle of democracy when practiced correctly using the maximum technological efficiency

that gives us the chance to live truthfully. We can't live in this loopy lunatic illusion

any longer of moving between false polarities that appear ultimately to have an ulterior or at least

superior power that directs them regardless of the mandate offered through some fatic electoral process. I don't know you can double the speed of a YouTube video. I don't know if you can

cut it in half because I want everyone to hear every word that you just said because I think they're

inspired words and I think that they're all true. And I won't summarize about it. I just asked people to rewatch what you just said in case they missed all that the first time. I'm good at listening to fast-talking. So I caught every word. I think you're absolutely right. And so let me just rephrase what I think you said. We spent all this time trying to construct a defense against what was clearly happening to us in the West, maybe the world, which was this

globalist totalitarian nightmare, only to awake, to realize actually we may have been participating annoyingly in the creation of it just from the other side. Where does that leave us? What's our duty now? If we had any faith in any personality or person other than Christ, it's only in him. What I was thinking about today is let people like that verse that's by the way we love one

another. Let them know that we're Christians. So my job well I'm here. I know you're in Christ.

My job is to love you. That's my job here. And with my friends Dave and Jake, I'm traveling with them. Beloved Lexi and the people that are working with that mess is familiar with just to be loving and present with them. And that's my primary job. I can do that. And when I notice myself stopping doing that, which I will do because I'll get hungry or something, then to intervene with myself as best I can by honoring and knowing my weakness. Now I didn't believe that and I don't

believe that there is any political figure operating within current systems that is going to bring about the type of change that's required to at least for stall at total annihilation. I don't see anyone, Gavin Newsom, AOC, Bernie JD. And in fact, what I was saying around 2015 when I first stepped into, when I stepped out of what you might call vanilla celebrity and into political opining, even though my vanilla celebrity was attracting a particular kind of loose

decadent. When I stepped into, when I stepped into, because I was like, I had a girlfriend at the time that was involved with a new statesman. And so I did an addition of the new statesman, British, one might say, Fabian kind of, yeah, Fabians are so sort of fetishizing leftist ideas

in order to create centralized bureaucracies that will never deliver to the people that they

report to care about. The famed ordinary Brit or average American, that poor bunch of chattel churned and tossed about on the storm of any passing breeze or fad. Anyway, so I said,

Yes to this thing.

Baldwin David Lynch that I we we do out of China, who just said that he went back to his native

China, our we we, I think I'm saying his name right, who went back these, I super famous and the

left loving. And like, you know, because he left there's a dissident from China and lived in Germany for a while. And he's apparently very brilliant. I don't know that. I think he did the cover has long along with Shepherd Ferry. The, you know, ardent democrat support in American artists. So I we when we went back to China, because Germany's worse than China, like he's moved like there's more centralized control manipulation, less freedom of speech and China. And this

guy is a darling of the left type figure. Anyway, so when I was doing that new statesman thing, that's when I I did an accompanying promotional interview with our defining show was Jeremy Paxman's News Night. Jeremy Paxman was Fox News Tucker. He was like the guy that people got off on like watching that dude mess with politicians. I'm not talking about like, you know, he'd probably be more liberal left than you were sort of a traditional conservative during your sort

of Fox pump and hey day, but we got the same commodity from him. Jeremy Paxman would sit there with a home secretary and just go, come on like he was more bombastic. You know that time like, oh no, I get why you think it. No, you just don't want us to have guns, but you have them. Oh no, I get it. I do it. Like he had great stuff. No, I get it. I get it. I love all that. Um, like so, but when I went on there, right, it was cool. It's even last three or five much younger.

And like I said none of my friends vote. We never vote. And he's like, come on, you can't talk

about poll. If you don't vote, you've got no right to be in the conversation. And I said like, well, you're talking about, I see you every week on air attacking politicians for being vapid and empty and insincere and Machiavellian. And then when I say, I'm not participate, but you knew attack me. I don't want to participate. None of the people are doing whatever. And it calls this big national conversation. And I was talking about I'm going to run for Mayor of London

because like an idiot, like the disciples, actually. I thought, this is why I thought, I thought, you really, what should have thought is people have heard what you've said is true. And they're

responding to the truth in what you've said. That's why I should have recognized. But what I thought

being full and yeah, and a full was, oh, I'm really great. And I should be powerful. I made it about myself. I thought that I was fantastic. And I got involved in it. I got involved in my own thing.

And obviously it will terribly, terribly wrong as it always does when you can't happen. Well,

I did say that I was going to run for Mayor of London. And I did say that there's, there's, yeah, I participate. There's brilliant movements, like housing movements in London. And we led that. It's big march into Downing Street. And outside of Dynastria, I'm going to confrontation with a report. And I had to talk about me in Parliament. This is 2015. And what happened was, is I think from that moment, I think I was on the, I said, the radar

of certain forces that probably monitor online threats and vocal critics of establishment power. And my, I would suggest that in the UK, it's a little more insidious, nefarious. And the image I have is like the, like the soil, like oil in soil, like toxic land, like Britain's a deep-rooted toxic land. Now, I know a good deal of British UK empire, imperial power, my great to your country, in the same way that Nazi physicists migrated in order to ensure Babylon succeeds. What I haven't

was is I got attacked a bunch, like seriously attacked, seriously attacked. And I, so if we'd stood

it somehow, but that's what it did, it eviscerated me. And I withdrew to the country. And I got married,

and I bought my beautiful dog bear, and I had my beautiful children, and I lived out there calmly.

But something was nagging at me the whole time. Always, you're going to be participating in this

in some way, in some new way. See, I'm doing a new thing, find the new thing, find the new thing. But I always, always lack an idiot. I've been inculcated and indoctrinated by our culture, our culture. I think the individualism is our religion. Progressiveism, and I don't mean cultural progressivism as a multiple jet. No, no, I mean, we're going to the moon, so everything's cool. I've got these device now that's going to solve everything. In Gandhi, in like 1940, he said,

check this from Gandhi. Gandhi said, as the British were finally expelled, he said, there's, he said, there's no point in us be in the British, in his revolution, and then imitate and enemulate in the systems that we've been bequeathed by them to us. In there is a country of 70,000 villages, each village should be fully autonomous, trading only where necessary. We must lose our fixation on gadgets and technology, 94, is he saying this? Of course, india, we know what happened.

Emulate it, and like he's essentially sort of, you know, it got conquered in an entirely different and more serious way. Now, we care about supporting companies whose values aligned with hours. We do not want to show, firstly, the companies. It is better to give business to like-minded Americans than people who hate us. That's our rule. And that's one of the reasons we like charity mobile. When you make the switch to charity mobile, the company sends 5% of your monthly

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Was he rewarded for that? People said this guy is a wise prophet. That's what we're thinking.

But before we do that, we're going to shoot him in the head just to be sure. Lone, gunman! And whenever there's a lone gunman, just some crackpot. Hey, these crack pots. I noticed that a

lot of the time they do stuff that really benefits the most powerful interest. I see what,

they're mostly the powerful should start using these lone gunmen because there's a natural alliance. He's a good fit. He's like Coca-Cola or McDonald's. The two of them go down like Coca-Cola, McDonald's, and the Olympics, you know, like the and like Coca-Cola, McDonald's, the Olympics, and satanic festivals where you mock Christian imagery. The whole thing should get together. And if you find people that are prominent and outspoken and willing to risk their lives,

probably what you should do is shoot them dead. And then blame like something or work in the culture like I don't know the trans people that would work. Knowing in your heart of hearts

that Christ would love and minister to all of us, seeing us all as one family, I'm not interested

in race, I'm not interested in colorless skin or sexuality, although I have a bidressy sexuality. All of you don't make a god out of it, whether you're a heterosexual homosexual, single, sell a bit wherever you are. Anyway, so I'm going to a lot of trouble. It was the first time I'm going to trouble. I learned from it. Well, I just want to pause and say note to the editors of this, please clip that, that was like my favorite thing I've ever heard. Sorry excuse me sorry.

But the one I wanted to say was that the thing is because he is real and because it is true, the very fact that as a result of presumably certain demographic information in your country, there's a requirement, even to imitate Christianity as with that lady sort of charging her way to be first rather than last. And if she'd be very viable, that's not what she would do. She'd want to be last rather than first. Then in this condition, they can't then deny.

You can't deny what's in there. You can't deny the word. Once you've said America is a Christian country. We're running this on Christian principles. We need to return to how Christianity informed the constitution and the founding fathers. And as Charlie Kirk or Ressie

always to say that this was meant to be practiced in alliance and alignment with Christian principles.

If you, that tell us will be used in his service because we now have a standard. We now have a standard. Now of course we have forgiveness and we have anyone, he will forgive all of us if he can forgive me. He's taken my sin. He's taken my shame. He's taken yours. He'll take anyone's the most powerful people in the world. The most vulnerable and weakest person in the world. Indeed, he has no favorites. He doesn't care about those categories. He doesn't recognize those categories. So one saying is

he's the reason that they annihilate if Christianity is because it gave us a verifiable permanent indeed eternal basis upon which to run kingdom. It gave us instruction. It told us what's going to happen. Now if, as some kind of gambit, people have been emulating and performing Christianity, that's in there too. He says no problem. No problem because people will hear the name of Jesus Christ and they'll be saved. They'll be saved by that name and by acceptance in their hearts.

And more practically, once those environmental conditions have been set, those of us that truly are following him and are trying our best to follow him and are trying to make ourselves smaller, so that he can become greater. We can say, well, we've been looking in here and it doesn't say that your men have had a war with Iran and it doesn't say that your men to validate people performing surgery. In fact, you are perfect already. Did you not know you are so beloved? That's

help you. How can we help one another? Because you know our Lord, he would have been down with a trans, down with a homeless, down with a friend and he'll down with a junkie. He's going to be going, oh, this is disgusting. How can I love you? How can I love you? And I spend surprising about time, actually, speaking to gay people about Christ and, like, you know, because obviously there's concerned and I'm trying to understand how we love. And what, but why can't tell them

absolutely is I, I overly identified my sexuality? I'll tell you that. I made my sexuality the most

important thing about me and I thought it was okay to be head andistic and decadent and there was

an expression of my sort of neo-pagan self. And can I say, there's been some consequences. So you might want to consider, you know, there's something more beautiful about you. Are you saying, for example,

That Jesus Christ and the beloved disciple John would have improved this grea...

total love between them by ejaculating, is that what you're suggesting? Do there is more to you than that? There is a supreme intimacy with God. He's actually was the B inside you right now. Look at the carnality. He's in carnate. He's flesh and blood. There's a, because as well as the agarpal love, there's eros love in that. He's, we are, he's bright. We are bright. We had, like, it's there. It's a very powerful energy, this sexual energy. And I definitely definitely misused it

extensively by worshiping it and identifying with it. So when I'm talking to people about problems

around identity and sexuality, even though I've never had the challenge of same sexual attraction,

my certainty is that we shouldn't be sex should not be our God, but love must be first. In fact, the 12 steps puts it so well-tucker in the great big book of our colleagues anonymous, which I are the student of. It says, we want to stay out of this debate around sex. Some people think that sex is the be all an end all and some people want to live in absolute denial of sex. This is a controversy we don't want to enter into. Some people would have a man with no flavor

for his fair. And the other camp would have them on a straight pepper diet. Someone pointed out to me that straight pepper diet would be eating a condiment as if it were the main course or the real.

Sex is a condiment upon which, which adds flavor to the meal of love. That's what it is,

it's called a scripture in a marriage between a man and a woman. I'm still, you know,

for my own, I'm trying to understand how to be completely loving to all people and not, I don't, it says here clearly, don't judge, get the log out of your own eye. So I guess it's not my, my ministry is not about that, but I'm just what, what I don't want is to be a participant in a church that prioritizes judging and condemning others rather than dealing with our own evident internal fall and problem. That is the truth. We had this conversation breakfast this

morning with a wonderful person works for us. And I was telling her about being in church a couple of weeks ago and somebody got up to read who, you know, I knew a lot about and, and had was judging so much based on, you know, behavior that we judge or whatever. And this person is up to read and I really felt very strongly that God just spoke to me, which doesn't happen every day. And the message was, you are no better than her. And I turned, it makes me

emotionally mad and I turned to my wife who I know was having similar thoughts or thought she was, and I, I whispered to I said, we hear no better than her. And she goes, I know.

And I think that is, that's really at the center of it. So much instruction, love your

neighbours, then he removes any limited liability for the category of neighbour, who is your neighbour, whoever's in front of you, that's your neighbour. That's your neighbour. That's your neighbour. That's your neighbour. That's your neighbour. That's your neighbour. But if you begin with, I am no better than any other person. I think it's a, it's a clarifying. It takes the blinders off, like you can see things clearly. Because what, then you feel like you don't have your own personal little mandate to go around

telling people. Yeah, and also, but it, I mean, there is, not a sense in which I hate that phrase, but there, it is true that all people are connected to all other people in some way that's impossible to understand as a person, or for me to understand, in case, but that is absolutely real. And you can feel it. And it's almost like there are moments, these rare transcendent moments in your life. I mean, sex is one of them, where the barriers between people get thinner. They may not dissolve

entirely in this life, but they're definitely the membrane is thinner. And you, you feel a great satisfaction in that, because that's kind of how it's intended to be. That's so much that divides us as fake. It's put there on purpose in order to divide us, but that it doesn't

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most. Find today on Tucker Carlson Books.com. Yes. And that if we are able to receive our identity in

Him, then we will find in that kind of harmony, not necessarily ease or absen...

right, at least a certain truth. And there's an extraordinary in this world of counterfits,

the identity politics, a peculiar facsimile, an emulation of individual sovereignty has come at the forefront. Exactly. As we can explain that a little, can you flush it out a bit? Well, you are, you were fearfully and wonderfully made, knit together in your mother's womb. He loves you.

Who is it? You say that I am. I think that you are son of the living God that you are the Messiah.

Well, this insight, this is from a, I guess, in a few of the gospels there, but that's a moment between our Lord and Peter. After, after Peter acknowledges Christ as God, as son of the living God on the Messiah, he gives him the name Peter, you are the rock upon which I can build my church. When you see God for who God is, then you will know who you are. If you don't know God for who God is,

then you will be looking for an identity in the world. I'm an Englishman. I'm an American.

I'm a proud homosexual. I'm a young black woman. I'm a little Dutch boy wearing clogs. Oh, you know, like you started to identify with false things that you made with your own hands. They're, they're message to the, to people that about gender identity is go further. You are more individual than that. He loves you more than that. You are more unique than that. You're not part of a group of people that happen to feel that you don't fit with the arbitrary

gender identities of 20, 26 American cultural identity that we're this and where that indeed,

in the word, in heaven, there is no man woman. In heaven, in the supreme reality, there is no man woman. He says that. That's in there. You're right. You're right in a way. It's a kind of a performance. But if that performance leads you to be like, you know, changing your body surgically, then that's potentially there might be another route. But we can look at the data and see if that's working for people post surgery and how many of them are happy with it. And I guess we could make a

scientific kind of a scientific judgment. But the problem is, is that all of us have been now recently

exposed to the total illegitimacy of science in so much as we all know that only profitable experimentation is being undertaken. Who's doing and conducting the experiments to demonstrate absolutely that there is no causal link between the childhood vaccine-pros program and the rising autism. Who's going to pay for that? Vaccine manufacturers? I wouldn't have thought so. The government. I don't. And then that's the end of the list. There's no else they're going to

fall to. Who, by the way, I mean, one of the moments of the deeper awakening to the immerse if ubiquitous insidiousness of global imperialism came for me. You know, when you sort of realize things yourself that then becomes somewhat culturally evident and obvious and explored and it happens to me, yes. Yeah. So when with the vaccines, how are they clinically trialing that for the impact on pregnant women? Because which pregnant women are going to allow

them to in this timeframe have experimented? And how do we know the long-term effects? Because there hasn't been a long period of time and which to witness the long-term effects? And all those questions that one might sort of ponder chewing a pencil on your own. It turns out what unanswerable because we were being dreadfully deceived, dreadfully deceived and it seems like the ultimate aim of it may have been population reduction. Of course. And then, of course, I suppose the

additional benefits of how much authoritarianism can we leverage how successfully? Because

remember the bit when it's like, well, you won't be able to do what you didn't try and

are in America, Italy and the United Kingdom, turns out that you largely can. But there was just kind of a stumbling block because people online with significant audiences were talking about it. Okay, so that's a problem. We can't have significant audiences online where people are getting non-mainstream information. What do we do to annihilate that? Well, can we create some kind of ideological diaspora where they're all arguing with one another? Sometimes we're important

things sometimes about dumb stuff. And as Dave Smith, I know he's a collaborator and friend of yours, when he said that 2008 and the occupying movement was a kind of unique solidarity when it comes to the typical political taxonomies in your country and mine, people transcended that and recognize, hold in a minute, it's financial institutions that are to blame for this. Why don't we start talking in them? That was the advent of identity politics. Yeah, let's have a race war.

Yeah, race well. Quick, quick. Super quick. So you were involved in all that stuff. I mean, you were assessing British politics in 2008. That was a long time ago all of a sudden. And now you're talking about Jesus. So how did that happen? Well, you wrote a book about it. How to become a Christian seven days? Did you become a Christian seven days? No, I became a Christian both instantaneously but over the entirety of my life. When it happened, it happened in an instant. It happened when I was

I reckoned, even though I wouldn't have termed it this way at the time, probably

Contemplating suicide.

And the reason was, of course, was because of the allegations in the UK of criminal, sexual conduct, specifically rape and sexual assault. At the same time, as my son had been diagnosed with a hugginition, which we've discussed previously. And those two things happening simultaneously did something extraordinary to me in so much as I was exposed to me that I've, I mean, I had it as a voice. Like you just described, sometimes you hear these voices. You've spent your whole life

worshiping fame and sex. Well, now look, fame and sex have come together. Is this what you wanted?

And all the time that I was famous, by the way, I think there would have been people that are there, and the other things I would have known about me is, I wasn't that that guy that was married to

Katy Perry. And isn't that that guy that likes always talking about sex and stuff and being all

like a sexy rock star and movies in your country, they might say that. And so those two things sort of compounded to show me the nature of my worship. You have been worshiping fourth gods. You have been idolizing yourself and the fame can be glorious for the kingdom. Here's a tool he can use. Sex, magnificent source of creation, connection, of course, but I was misusing those things. Now, when that hit me, even though I kind of understood it a little bit before, I didn't

understand it as visceral ears I did in the new context of your son. I'll tell you this man, there was a moment where I was walking my dear beloved dog bear and check out this thought.

This is, I think, the temperature. I think this is the accuser. This thought occurred.

Would you, what if your son, Lord is still pregnant, my wife is still pregnant? What if your son died and this could all go away? Would you accept that? And I sort of, oh god, no, like that. I felt I felt my knees and I cried. I cried for thinking it. I cried for thinking it. Like how could you even think that? How could you even think that? And it's sort of perched near bit that cry in that cleanse. In this period of contemplation, a friend of mine from

from a 12 step support group sent me a video of Rick Warren and Rick Warren. I never heard

Rick Warren, I know that purpose driven life self-ful, I don't know things like that. I'm not Christian, I don't care. Right, he sent me a video. And then I'll see it is the most so slick, televangelical TV show of like, hey, we're going to be speaking with Rick Warren. And I see Rick Warren, he's kind of feard and plump on a lot of people. And then when he talks about like, he's, and that everyone's 2, 2, 3, 2 tax-brake. Like you're not going to get me with that.

You're not getting me with like proper American evangelism. I'm clever. I'm pretty clever. I'm British working class, clever. That might be the cleverest anyone can be. The only one getting me with that. That when he talks about his son killing himself and like, and the way he spoke about his son's killing himself. Of course for me, in my mind, this is Tony Robbins, like someone who I deeply admire as a matter of fact. Like I'm thinking

Rick Warren, he must be like a personal coach kind of person who brings out your excellence or whatever. You know, I didn't even have a reference of what Christianity is thinking about it now. Like, but like, so Rick Warren spoke about his son's suicide without shame, with pain and sorrow, but without any kind of indulgence of that. And I thought, what is that? What is that? What is that that you couldn't? Because if you're a child, kills himself,

ain't better not be writing no books about personal development, because the worst thing that can happen

is happened. So shut up. But when I saw it modelled, delivered, when I encountered it, I felt like, oh, what is it? And that sort of somehow glitched something in me. And I was out there. And I was in the field by my house. You've visited my house. I'm by the river Thames, by the river, by the Still Wars. And I'm in green pastures. And it was only when my dog died. I realized that my dog is a German shepherd that he was a shepherd and that the shepherd made me sit

down in green pastures. And he made me be still by the waters. And I understood that that was being spoken to. And that through my son, I was being spoken to. Tuck him in those moments where you, if you hand over your boy, like, 12 weeks old, to surgeons. And you don't know if you're getting back again, like, and then when you see him with the wires and the tubes and all that, I was so visceral. And in those rooms, me and Laura, we felt okay. We felt fine. We felt peaceful. We felt protected.

And I was going into those hospitals in, like, first time I wore a mask during that pandemic.

Let me tell you, was to be out in the streets in London because every single newspaper in every single TV station was dedicated right up into October 7th, peculiarly, to saying Russell Brands of rapies. We should have known. Could we have done something like, like, in plain sight. Suggesting that somehow I'd conducted my entire career, and in anticipation of a time, we're in the future. I would be accused of sex crime brilliantly. He was flirting with every

single woman he ever met on TV, on camera, and chatting up. He said, "If I was a talk show, and there was a female here, I'd like to know, are you single?" And if she said, "Yes,

I'd like to start flirting.

was, I would pursue that till it's natural, can literally natural conclusion. If I, on now, they're undetected, revulsion, resistance, then, like, I'm like, "Okay, luckily, I'm famous." So like, and they tried to somehow reframe that as some, there's like, "I don't know how you would even do that."

But the problem is, is I created a lot of data out there in those years. I was sleeping with

thousands of women, and I was sleeping with women that will have sex with you immediately in a bathroom,

or backstage, or in a corridor and a car. That's why I create quite a lot of, I hurt people.

I exploited people. That's greedy. That selfish is inconsiderate. It's mean. It's certainly sinful. Immoral is all of those things. There's no question about any of that. So when, show me the man, I'll show you the crime. If people's phones are getting scraped, is able to snode and reveal from more or less the late '90s, just in case one day you do something we don't like. We're ready to go. See if we're going to be the pink or the green, the money

or the honey, we're going to get you financially or we're going to get you sexually, unless you're a person

that's lived in Christ. If you've lived in Christ your whole life, they're going to have to kill you.

For doing nothing. We're going to have to kill you for doing nothing. Probably I'm to Charlie Kirk. Probably there was nothing shady to get him with was there. That may be what it was. So, you know, luckily, I was a phallander on ahead of this. So, well, we'll just do rap and sexual

so with that guy. That's, it's going to take minutes. So they're able to, it's unbelievable.

When you see the material that was generated initially, I mean they're documentary and by this company called Hard Cash, it was a actors played the women that were making allegations that had not gone to the police or anything like that. And they used bits of my stand-up where I was saying stuff like, yeah, like really in a camp, I'm British comedians. I was a super camp and

crafts but using campness to take the edge off very vulgar and a tomacle and sexual and erotic

jokes, which I was very explicit about. And they would pose that next to someone being shot in silhouette, even though it was an actor. Shroins silhouette, even though it was an actor to protect the identity of an actor. Like they should, like, you know, if you put them with music, you know, people don't realise that documentary is a construction, what archive music did you choose from the archive library? What music for that scene? Why? Why did you cut away there? Where's the

rest of the interview? How many times did you talk to that person? What did you tell that person

when you were talking to them? So it was an extraordinary time. And I have absolutely, I will say this, no animosity to anyone involved because I can see why you would do it. I can see if you look back at something 20 years ago, 25 years ago, where you had sex in a bathroom with a stranger. Why would you not? Like, if you see a documentary, that guy, he's a villain. He was dressed in black. He's eyes changed suddenly. He's extraordinary. It's extraordinary. But the reason

that there were no allegations I'm assuming contemporaneously, or during me too, or, you know, all the way up to you, there was a television program called Russell Brand has secretly been committing all these sexual offenses. I'm assuming, and then there was a phone number at the end of have you ever met Russell Brand? Then I'm assuming that was a component in this. So, Eva, we believe that the times owned by Rupert Murdoch are a great, you know, there are

force for good in the world. And, you know, hard cash whose name has certain indications, are that they're there to help us and that the mainstream media large are here to help us, or there might be some other agenda at play. If people are prominently talking about COVID and Moderna and Pfizer and Rishi Sue Nack invested in Moderna when it only had five employees, and then when he was Chancellor and Prime Minister, they did deals with Moderna to the tune of

millions, and all of the things that we understand took place in the COVID period, or the Ukrainian war and the CIA, the CIA carve out, I should say, made content saying Russell Brands an asset for Russia and put it into your Ukrainian language. That's an indication of the presence of the state, or if the 77th brigade run by Mark Lancaster, who's married to Caroline Dianich, who's the death, the department head of the social media department, and Caroline Dianich on, like,

they won over of Russell Brands accused of sex crisis, like, he should be demonetized on x and youtube. When did she learn what the word demonetized means? When did she learn that? Just you know about CPMs, Dishy, and programmatic ads, or did she have a conversation with someone, I wonder who, I wonder if it was her husband, Mark Lancaster, guess what their job is, in when Britain are occupying or working in Afghanistan or Syria or wherever, to protect us, like the 77th brigade,

what they do is ensure that there is no significant uprising by managing the social media, by deamplifying and controlling social media in EGF-Ganastana, Syria, to make sure that only the correct rebel factions are able to organise their information, shadow banning would call it here,

Or 77th brigade, aren't allowed to operate in the UK, so you're not allowed t...

synops on a domestic population except in COVID, special suspension was made, allowing 77th brigade to

operate inside the UK, and to allow them, and it said this in the Times newspaper, the same

newspaper in fact that published much of the nefarious and untrue reporting about me, that 77th brigade are going to take down vaccine misinformation, social media commentators, now in the UK, that's who I was, and what I was, that was what I was doing, I was providing an alternative, narrative, the YouTube channel was exploding, it was extraordinary, and I was beginning to think, I have to be involved in politics, it's not enough, it's not enough to just talk about this,

indeed, look what's happened with cryptocurrency, technology means that the same centralized financial institutions cannot control global finances in the way they once did, don't look too much into

where that power is primarily housed, but it seems that you can generate false revenue for

inflationary measures, you can control entire economies, and indeed, base an economy on the one thing that's explicitly forbidden in here debt, and newsy, thankfully all our debts are paid

by the one who truly loves us, so technology changed currency and finance forever, technology is

changing media forever, it's inevitable that it will change politics, when people accept that we now have the technology for direct participatory democracy where every single issue could be pulled and voted on by the population that you could have minimum centralization and minimum intervention as the principles that the states each state could be independent, wherever possible, each town could be independent, wherever possible, each individual could be independent, wherever possible,

in here of course we have some significant guidelines for transgressive behaviours that would

require legal intervention and pretty much all of us know what those are, we've all got indeed C.S. Lewis's primary argument, along with Aquinas's morality doesn't have to be engineered, and it's not some sort of post-truth post-structuralist, there is no truph arbitrary thing, we all know good and bad because we feel it viscerally, and we feel it in our cardiovascular system, we have in-built sensors, if you don't turn them off with vaccines and bad food, bad signals

continually, in a manageable way, Tucker, the city of London is having an election for mayor in 2020-28, the reason this is fascinating is because the office of mayor is manageable, the London mayor, so they can't, right now, is only in control of the metropolitan police force, London transport, and certain issues regarding planning and housing, all of these areas in a participatory direct democracy could be opened up to people that live in London, that love London, all of a sudden

you don't have politics that thrives and runs on ideology and debate, you have a pragmatic democracy, do you want you let's cameras that charge you if you have a certain type of vehicle? Do you want a congestion charge? Vote for it, if you vote yes, we'll do it, if you vote no, we won't. Do you want this type of policing where people are arrested for Facebook posts or do you want to focus on knife crime, which paris wins here is what time of day? Do you want us to investigate

historic crimes or do you want us to focus on contemporary rape gangs? The beauty of it is you would say, we have an opinion and we have a voice and we have advocacy, you could even if you wanted for free because there's no way I would pay people to do this, have accounts or other elders from the LGBTQ+ community, from the Muslim community, from the white working class community,

from the left, from the right, from all potential groups and say, why don't you advocate and advise?

Because I don't want to be in charge of London, I want to participate in an end to the kind of politics that we know is birthing, midwifeing, the apocalypse and Armageddon, through duplicity, through conflict, through endless self-obsession, through pornography, through addiction, using addiction, even where it doesn't typically play out. Every time you look at a screen, the food that we eat, the things we believe about ourselves, I would like to run for mayor of London in 2028 so that the

people of London would run it, so that politicians are not involved in politics, so we have true open-source, transparent democracy, I bet you like me do polymarket adverse, there's injury advertising absolutely everywhere, that technology for polling and electing could be used to determine where you want your local budget spent, who you want running a particular area of public life if there is a requirement for any representation, and most importantly, you will be in control of

your own lives, and we don't need to quarrel and squabble about Islam and Islamic invasion, if the people of Epping don't want to have migrants in their community, then let them vote on it, now that's not an area that the London Mayor controls, but certainly if the polling was available, it will be difficult to impose that on the people of Epping, perhaps if people in other communities are very pro refugees, they would get a budget for and the ability to house refugees.

There's no point in us living in this tower of babble madness, of incestion, ...

online, and sometimes in person when we have the opportunity for real community, real change.

At this point, Taka, we know that the Republicans are on the answer, the Democrats are on the answer, the conservatives are on the answer, the Labor Party, the Greens, Reform, Reputty, or whoever, what you want is for people to be absolutely empowered in their own lives as our Lord suggests each of us has direct access to divine truth and you can participate as much as you want to. So that I want to tell you as well, the mind tension amidst all this madness with a forthcoming trial

and a book out that I'm very pleased with, I'm going to run from there of London in 2028. You're going back to the UK? Well, yes, possibly to serve a joule sentence.

I wasn't going to ask you about this because I'm upset about it.

And I just want to say for the record as clearly as I can that I buy your explanation completely and I think this is a lie and that you're facing like a real jail term because you spoke against the people in power. I don't think there's any other way to interpret it. So that's my position, just to be clear. But what exactly are you looking at? Like what happens next? I'll be on trial in October of this year. Yes. And I don't really willfully ignorant of course,

but I tend not to ask what will happen if I'm not acquitted because I've got a wife and free young children. Also, by the way, I did believe it's someone committed a rape 2025 years ago and that's proven to be true. That person should go jail. Like rape is a boring. I watched it on the other day. It's like pretty woman with my wife. And when there's an attempted rape by the brilliant Jason Alexander is an appalling abhorrent jarring moment. It was thing, but when I watched it

from the position, I mean now is that that's what what the fuck? How dare you say that I would do that.

How dare you say that I would do that? Exactly. I have a kind of a magnetical lure. I'm not saying I wasn't an appalling low life of an individual. But what I was not doing was imposing pausing, attracting, charming, reducing. Anyway, of course, they're, that's the pleasure in it. It's like fishing. That's why dynamite fishing is no fun. Fly fishing is lots of fun. Do people use dynamite fishing? Of course they do. Right. Yeah, that should be banned as well.

I mean, but I'm just saying like five London, that goes on day one. But most men, yeah. I mean, I know that there are rapists out there and I think they should be severely punished. Most normal

people think that. Yes. But most men, I've never met any man who, you know, got drunk and told

me a secret dessert is to like force sex and anyone. That's the opposite of what I think most men want. Correct. Because the currency is love. Well, that's exactly right. And it's also like I lured this person with my charms. Isn't that how men feel? I think they do. I think primarily and I pray ultimately most men. Yes. So why? Okay. So this whole thing happens. You get charge

I was actually in the British Isles. The day this happened. And I called you. I'll never forget it.

And I gave the bad advice. I give to everyone who's charged in the political case. Like this, which is run as fast as you can to a country with no extradition treaty. And like, don't which it was is an option. It is an option. Of course, run away like this. This whole system is rigged against people who question it's most basic premises as you have. So like why are you submitting? You're choosing to participate in this to take the risk to submit. Why? Firstly, because

I believe all things are from God. And I recognize that this is what it took for me to accept that my life is not my own. I belong to a higher calling, a higher purpose. I recognize that. I also recognize that what I demonstrate in how I lived for a long time was wrong. I also believe in trial by jury as a matter of fact, even though the United Kingdom are trying to obliterate that. And that's not a good sign. They're trying to remove that. Except for murder and rape cases.

But they are, as well as advancing surveillance technology, facial recognition, digital ID, all of the things you're aware of in the dystopian UK. They're trying to get rid of jury trial.

And I believe it is possible to have a fair trial. And I believe it is necessary to confront

and stand up and stand firm in your conviction in this case in my conviction about the truth of what I have done and what I haven't done. Because as a Christian, we're all forgiven for all of the things we've done wrong. But you don't need to be forgiven for things you haven't done. And there is, of course, in a way, no choice. You say that, I could be able to go to a place where there's no extradition treaty. And in the moments of my worst fear, those are the kind of things

I think about. But in reality, Tucker, it says in here that the book of James

Opens with, we consider it hugely when we face trials of any kind.

in the Christian life. It's not like, well, except unless you actually do have a trial in which case, we're going to get yourself to bore a borrower, quicks, yeah. You know, this is what I'm called to do. This is what I am called to do. This is what we are being called to do. I'm not

trying to drag you into my terrible trial with me. I'm saying that your trial, I think, is of a

comparable nature. Because in a sense, it's sort of inadvertent that we find ourselves in this position, that you had enormous audience on Fox. And then you become an independent journalist and become even more successful. And you go from advocating for Trump for reasons that are perfectly understandable to condemning Trump for equally evident and obvious reasons. But even if we take personalities out of it, they're on war, that where does that go for you now? What are you going

to be called to do? And you will know that most of the people that get called in here are like,

no, thanks. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. I've always been sort of a bit of a glory hunt,

a kind of, you know, look, well, I think that's actually in the wrong way. Put it. I feel so worthless and inferior as a child. So I've sort of, I unapproved of unwanted non-love. That's not what I'm going to do with my parents. They really did their level best. And then as a drug addict,

anyone who's like the kind of drug addict I was, you're moving among poor people, prostitutes,

broken people. And all of that time, I felt kind of an emptiness and a worthless nurse. And when my identity was fulfilled, it seemed at least to me in a kind of stardom and acceptance and being lorded and applauded and celebrated and loved and given the kind of attention that I thought would well, and it was really quickly, meaning us an empty after this beautiful golden moment of feeling, like, oh, wow, Lord, you love me. I feel that there is nothing for us to do, but to lovingly

participate in whatever he puts in front of us. And the examples are alive in here that all of them persecuted and often distilled for what they believe in, normally because of some point, they encounter conflict with real power, either the kind of cultural fairsake power of the early Christians or the monarchical, oligarchical, terrifying despotism of the kings of the earlier empire. And for the first Christians, their role was to, well, indeed, isn't that the primary

character of their conversion, all these people that were willing to look into the eyes of people,

people, including the 12-year-old girl at the fire and pieces. I don't know, I've never

never met that guy where minutes ago he was willing to sort of get a fight for him, but that these people, these men, these ordinary men and women, these ordinary Christians, when they're confronted with a moment where they might have to die for what they believe in, take it. Now I recognize I'm not standing trial for being a Christian, I'm standing trial, according to the lexicon of the jubritish judiciary for the crimes I've already discussed. But in what this is

my opportunity to do is to show that I believe in truth, I believe you can have a justice system,

because there is a God. If you don't believe in God, you can't have absolute justice or absolute truth. They are by definition constructs of the human mind, arrived at using a mind that by its own belief, is itself an arbitrary system born of chaos. You can't have morality. And when you live in that culture, most people do a lot of people seem to do anyway, because I'm talking about a lot of Christians, I'm not living like, oh my God, this is actually real, and that's of course

forgivable, the first Christians had that problem. They found it hard to live as Christians as live

as disciples of Christ, yoke to him, following him eyes on him at all times. This is, for me, a difficult thing, I wish it would go away, I wish it would go away, but what I pray for is the strength to be who I am in him as I walk through it, and to go where he wants me to go, I don't want power no more, I don't want the power of being a celebrity or the mayor of London or the Thario, I don't want that, all I want is to know him intimately, and I forget that sometimes,

because I'm weak, and I'm easily distracted, and I'm fallen, but in him I am none of those things, he made me and you, and everybody, for to know him, to know him and love him, and it doesn't all have to be on a big grand global stage in great big trials against a fall in nation, Britain's fall in a par, that's obviously it's evidence on a different trajectory from your country, it's still owned by dark imperial power, and the thing about the idea of participatory

direct democracy tuckers, I don't care if I don't want to sit in an office somewhere, making decisions, I want to pray, all of the time, I want to be with God, and I want to be with my children, and the people I love, and to tell people, to do what it says in the Great Commission, to tell people, in a language that they understand, God is real, Christ is real, stop worshiping the world, you're going to die, you're going to die, and it's all meaningless. All of us, evidently,

all of us have experienced grief and death, I can't even get through the death of my dog without

Jesus.

of a Galilean man, two thousand, twenty-six years ago land down their life for me, but I know that dog would have done it, I know that dog would have done it." And that opened enough in me to for me to receive him more deeply when my beloved dog died, I don't want to be in any other communion, I don't want to be in any other conversation, I don't want any of the world's power anymore,

I know how broken I am and how corruptible I am, and I know I can't take my eyes off him for a second,

but thankfully I see him everywhere now. So you began this process, well, you began the process at the beginning of your life, but you began the conscious change from pagan to Christian, or whatever you were before to Christian, after your son was diagnosed with a very serious

ailment, and you found out you're going to be indicted for rape. That's what it takes.

I'm not easily converted. I was this guy, he helped people, so what? It's probably not true. He's the son of God, I don't care. People are doing miracles, you're in trouble, okay, all right, what are you talking about? Okay, you've got me, what I need to do, explain it. So I watched it carefully, and you and I talked about it as it was happening, and I just thought it was one of the most wonderful things, and by the way, I just have to pause for a two-minute

story, which I think I've told before was my favorite story ever, that we went to Easter a few years ago, and we had dinner that I had before, and you were talking about how you're getting it baptized, and we went to this Easter service, it was an outside Easter service on the beach, and these two kids come up to me, they were college students from Purdue and Indiana, and they said, is that Russell Brandt? This is the next morning after we had talked about baptism, and I said, yeah, that's Russell Brandt,

yeah, Russell Brandt, my friend, and I said, that's incredible. We have been praying in our church

that Russell Brandt would get baptized, and we just find ourselves here this morning at this church service, was nowhere near where they live, and I said, I, I felt emotional hearing this, I said, we were just talking about baptism last night, and then they walked up and introduced themselves to you, and I just thought, wow, I mean, I guess I already knew this, but there aren't coincidences, like we are in the middle of a of a drama that we didn't write, so then you get

baptized, and then you start talking about Jesus, and immediately people say, look, as an actor and a comedian, he puts on personas for a living, and they don't believe you, and they make fun of you. What was that like, that experience? I didn't really mind that actually, there's a really different reality at that point, yeah, you guys, I don't say remember I've got this good foundation of 12 steps, the 12 steps too requires that you surrender your identity as an alcoholic and as a

drug addict, you come to believe there's a power greater than yourself, you hand over your will

and your life to the care of God as you understand God, but the problem I think with paganism

is you will all wait, one will always revert to self, and each, if everything is, if everything is

God, then anything is God, and I know what I tend towards, me, I'm God, I should be in charge, that's what I, I inclined towards, so when I was in, I don't like people saying that, you know, if it was up to me, people would only say nice things about me, all of the time, and I was like, I would be bad for us if that happened, don't you think? Yes, I don't think that would work, because I tried to surround myself in a little sycophantic bubble, and in various points of my life,

and it hasn't worked out for a tool for me, so I don't mind about that, I don't care about that at all actually, because really, because it infuriated me watching it, really, because I actually knew it wasn't true, and it really bothered me. Thank you, thanks really kind of you. But it had no effect on you, that's funny. Well actually, I was around really good Christians that was like, sort of like, I'm well done, well that has been rubbed so encouraged, like, I was sent people,

like, you know, like, when I got baptized, because those kids, they were trying to, they were

about, like, I remember those kids from hanging out with you that time around Easter, they were like,

hey, I baptize her, can we baptize you, we baptize each other, there's like they're gonna get baptized me there and then, and like, and I knew that Bear Grills had been saying to me, he actually is termed it this way, should we get baptized, is what he said, like, and I thought, I'm mean, because I've been so solid, cystic up to that point, I didn't know that Bear Grills is a pretty passionate Christian, and have been public about it, so I thought, Bear Grills on this trip,

is he, I'll get baptized, I mean, well, when he arrived, it was quite plain that I only I was getting baptized, then there was the obvious and evident demonic coughing, like, I could not stop coughing, the pastor arrived by boat, my friend Jo, who's a Catholic was one side of me, that hefty fallen man, and a little Bear on the other side is like, you know, it takes me sort of career criminals, and the S, I guess, to baptize me, we got in that one, I couldn't

stop coughing, you know, you're getting embarrassing cough, oh yeah, one of them happened, and they were looking at each other, we got in that river terms, I went under, I came out, and I felt different, I felt different now, a lot of companies in the UK that were in charge of

Water franchises, have not baved, but responsibly with that river, so it coul...

it could be all sorts of follow-up, follow-up could have been many of those things,

but I came out and I felt different, and I've not really, I felt in increasing, anyone that's Christian, or it comes across as an adult, knows what it's like, there is a subtle vassalation, there is at least temptation, a calling to go back, what if I did this, there is, I can feel the old identity, wasn't it? Spurgeon who says, you know, you are drowning Christ, but sure, you're sure enough the old guy can swim, the old man

can really swim, I feel the old man, I feel the Adam man in me, the old earth man for the fallen man calling back, but I feel closer and closer in all the time, I feel like I'm able to have this conversation with you in Christ, enough so that it doesn't seem to me to be a problem,

if some people go, I think you're really going, but I don't know if you know the British

legal system works, but there is no contingency for Christians, Britain has just made like a abortion legal to 25th birthday, but we're going to point you now if we have to, we can you for nice you, if you say, I've got a headache, you've got you for nice him, you've been eyes in, they're changing the law to put the power of God into the hands of man right now, so saying I'm a Christian, it's not like, you know, in Britain, the way things are going right

now, I pray for revival, I pray for revival. Yes, I do, so, no one seems to be questioned, in fact, you can't have a justice system without a God, without God, there is no justice

because the justice means absolute right, absolute truth, that's what it means, it means it's possible

to aspire to, that there is a path, that there is a way, no one's thinking about these things, as I turn through mad, posting light and despair, an atrophy and entropy, as old things have to dissipate and degenerate, and as we nominate AI to be our moral center and create new false consciousness, new false gods and alarming right now, it's considering that we've got no grounding in truth and until we have systems that represent our true role, yet we are stewards of

the earth, that's why we love the earth, we are its stewards, we must love one another because that's what we're here to do, under God, when we get rid of that and put ourselves at the top, then we're just quarreling about our ideologies, how much longer in American politics do you want to go over to me, right, we won, there's been the next four years, desecrating the beliefs of this group, right, we won, there's desecrating the beliefs of this group, that we won, this doesn't go,

before we recognize, well this isn't real, what are we doing, the real agenda is carrying on in plain sight, and it seems to be a geopolitical agenda that has some weird connection, both to energy, which is another word for power, and indeed, a cultism, which means hidden, ritual, hidden, power, something that I don't think any of us really understand, and you more than anyone, it seems to me, at least right now, appear to have been nominated to describe

it to people, well I don't understand it at all, luckily I do understand almost everything on like a dog level, it has to be very obvious to for me to pick it up, but I do believe that symbols

are resonant, that's why people use them and if all around you you see obvious signs that people have

a religious agenda. I have been around powerful people for so long that one thing I've learned is they're the most religious people of all and they all pretend to be agnostic, I don't believe in anything, I believe in science, no, no, no, no, no. They are observant religious people. They're just not worshiping the same God, but they think their power is supernatural. There's no doubt about it. I know them and they believe they're special because they're getting supernatural power and I think it's

demonic power. I think it's really obvious. Look at the fruits. But they know it. They know it. They're observant religious people. You mean through practice, yes, through ritual, correct? Correct. Yes,

absolutely. I mean, and it's always the same. It's the temptation of Christ,

badown before me and all this will be yours. But, I mean, there's no question in my mind that, you know, the killing, the ritual, killing of other people, whether through war, abortion, or euthanasia, the death penalty, it is, it's a religious ritual. Of course, and through killing, the shedding of blood of others, especially of innocence, they drive power. What's what's child malestation? There's no sexual attraction at children in nature because there's

no reproductive possibility. So, no people are not, of course, there's something sexual about

molesting a child. The point of it is to defile. Right? I mean, that's why it's so common.

Yes, it's something because they have like weird sexual or just like sexual about it. It's like when I destroy purity and beauty. I gain supernatural power. I think that can be eroticized by other. But the eroticization is in itself a kind of charge I believe. This is where again,

We would look to the outliers in the conspiracy community.

to the beginning of how we've moved from mainstream media per view where, you know, just to say

that I'm from the New York Times or the BBC is insufficient. That doesn't end up not a bandage of

honour and authority anymore. Those days are gone except for the sort of, there's kind of nostalgia around it, I suppose. But then like, you know, people that have been that are eccentric and are kooky, and perhaps because our culture hasn't afforded the roles, the emerging from this new kind of Jungian psyche that we're creating, creating new consciousness through AI through the internet, through mass comms. And so you will have the dark woman, the shadow woman that tells truth

and mad and frantic red-faced preachers screaming or broken wounded men in, you will have converts and apostates too. That's you and probably me too. You will have the, and like,

see David Eich, I always feel about him is, why can't the culture accommodate him? And one earth

was it that happened even in the brief time that I was in media where we could ice have a radio show on the BBC, BBC 2, very popular, normal, I got thrown off it, of course, because there is something ridiculous as usual. But like, David Eich, they spent, he's just come on, like David Eich, so tell us what, the Queen's in a lizard, and yes, they're reptilian entities, and now what David Eich would say about the rituals that involve child abuse are that it generates

an energy that I believe they call loose. That's sort of his being utilised, and all that

adrenaline chrome stuff. It's time to seem eerily, we're not moving away from that direction, is what I'm saying. Is it like that there's one vocabulary that describes it, that seems conspiratorial, some what sort of brach in its imagery, and then, but the other one is in here. I mean, it's like, neutral sacrifice. It's clearly what they play at those high altars, for a mollock and bail, and be eligible. Like that, they're demanding, in a sense, and there is

some sort of weird, right component, and what was Jezebel doing when Elijah had to take all that time out, driving himself, none of this is, I mean, it's all bad, but it's certainly not anomalous, or strange. It's like the story of every civilization from the beginning of recorded histories,

always operated on the basis of what we're describing. I saw you say what you think all of a sudden,

like, throughout, for time immemorial, the elites, most powerful people, have had access to, like, sexual pleasure. You think that's all of a sudden stop now? You think they're not doing it now, because of rationalism, because of what? So silly! Of course they're doing that, and I said,

post isn't strange, but now we can't, like, we can't talk around power anymore. That's what the

decline of Trump does, I think, is it means you can't have this convenient, albeit temporary symbol of research and American pride and nationalism through common sense and free market and America first, when there's a war with a wrong that appears to be beneficial to extra American interest. You can't have that anymore. Now it's like, "Oh, right, so you too, huh?" And that's, but what do you mean we can't talk around power anymore? That's when we talk about power now,

I, you know, of course, even though I didn't particularly read it, I can, like, one can sense the hysterical glee of the Democrat glyph. We told you, Tucker Carlson, the Trump's a madman, we told you that he was a narcissist. We, we could have had Kamala Harris in that way,

how's right now? You, she would have never have gone to war with Iran. Kamala Harris would have

stopped for you. So the way that woman described problems and definitely wasn't drinking in the daytime. She would have resolved all of this. Get out now, is it too late? What she do? She might run again, quick, it's not too late. What about Gavin News? He's got nice hair. I see she was a bartender, you know. Come on, see reason, see reason. But like, also, Republican Party, who we're going to get excited about? I mean, look, I, you know, why used to criticize when I was affiliated with

the left, by virtue of the class of my birth and the champagne socialism version of that is a sort of a start type guy. I used to, the argument I used to really find quite repugnant was, well, of course, we know the left's not perfect. We know that Tony Blair is compromised. We know that Kear Starmer at the CPS was dreadfully authoritarian as I heard you once said, you won't convince me even at gunpoint though that guy's making decisions himself. I love that. Like, we just let

them because the alternative is so much worse. The alternative is so much worse and using that polarity modality, they've bounced us around for about a hundred years. At least not longer. If not longer. And now, so when I say real power, surely, we should be considering now okay. So if no nationalist America first populism, conservatism with kind of allusions to Christianity, we're voting without heating, chesterton's warning, Christianity has not been tried and found wanting,

It has been found difficult and not been tried.

be a Christian because it starts with you. Like, I'm always like, I'm also said, I'm the problem.

I'm the problem. That's the true thing. And like you said, yeah, you said, that I see that resonates with you. That's the price of admission. Well, I just think that's the beginning of liberation is real. It's like the beginning of a healing, a fractured relationship is always the same. You acknowledge that it's your fault. And it stays fractured. This is true of a relationship between another person and a relationship between you and God. It only begins to be healed when

you admit what you did wrong. That's just true. That's just a fact. It doesn't work otherwise. Does it? No, it doesn't. And I'm trying to do that in the areas where I have been wrong while in the difficult situation of being accused of things I haven't done. And that's been

the rule of little Tyra walk and certainly more than I can tell. What's your story?

Are you going to get a chance to see this? I want to come by the way. Will you? Oh, obviously. I mean, I don't know if they'll let you in the dark. I was like, you're in there. I mean, they got excited when I did buy it in there. Like, they had someone came and took the Bible off me. She was a lovely lady. Actually, but I was holding the Bible. I was in there. And also, when the news put on my father and all my beloved father and Lord God love that Catholic,

the Valt lovely man, Bernard Gallagher, like who's like a serious poet, like he's a golfer. They're accused of right a cup captain, you know, like he's a beautiful guy. And he like, when I saw him last time, I said, okay, what are you doing, Ross? Or it says that it said in the paper about that year, stood up and started trying to preach in the courtroom. Was that? No, it did not do that. It didn't like grab the Bible. It's like, no, here it is. It is only one

drill justice. And it's not the corrupt justice of the British. I didn't do that. It's just quietly holding it. Then I saw someone as clutching his Bible. There's nothing that I want

to attach to sign. Bringing to I think it's the term we're calling into his Bible,

which I think we saw him sexually assault earlier in 1992. I mean, like, they won't miss an opportunity to turn everything negative. So when I say, we can't be confused about power, you with your constituency, you with your voice, how can you ever again say, or I advocate for this pile, this group, it's got to be principles, it's got to be principles, it's got to be these principles. And the one that I keep coming through is democracy could work, but it can't work

at the scale of nations. You're going to have to look at what, how, what the limits of democratic recharge. And we've got to let go of some pretty baked-in ideas, the individualities, individual sovereignty, beautiful, but individual expressionism, the ridiculousness of, you've just got to be who you truly are. What do you mean? Well, people are truly violent, they're truly corrupt, they're truly broken, they're be who you are in God, be who you are in God, not who you are

who's your mad culture, that will turn you into all sorts of crazy things on a, any given Sunday afternoon, individualism doesn't work an idea, materialism doesn't work as an idea, as a highest principle, because I recognize we're in a reality that, you know, has edges, and progressivism, the idea that we were advancing, people in the old days, they were idiots, we've understood this now, they needed the Bible back then because they were dumb, we've advanced beyond that,

that idea has to go as well, we have to move to a position of humility and righteousness, righteousness means I know your real God and I know me because I am me and I know you've been with me all the times, you know how broken I am, you know what I've done, you know what I've not done,

so that's the basis now for the rest of my life, seek the first, the kingdom of God and all this,

and his righteousness will be granted to you. If I'm in the right position with God, now I can do what God wants me to do, not what I want me to do or what the culture wants me to do, so real power is God's power, but as you already alluded to, in both Luke's telling and John's telling of the temptation, when the devil tempts Christ, he says, "I'll give you power over all of this, it's mine, and I can give it to whoever I want, and Jesus doesn't go, what steady, I only go,

you know, I recognize that, but actually that's not why I'm here for, I'm paraphrasing, but like, you know, the Christ recognises, and as it says in John's first epistle, we know that the evil one is in charge of this world, and as Paul reminds us in Ephesians, we're fighting against dark spiritual power, so real power, I saw it in one of your shows, actually, and it's a good video title, by the way, who ever came up with that. Everything is downstream

of spiritual warfare, everything is downstream, so if we operate on that basis of how is this,

what is this doing spiritually? What value is this promoting? What role is this casting me in?

What lie am I believing in thinking that if Congress goes this way, or the executive branch goes that way, or the Senate does that, it's not enough anymore, we've got to look rigorously, it was happening, and I think the one principle is maximum power to individuals, to communities, to families, but you can't like go around making people be Christian at gunpoint, so it works, for me, it took the breaking apart of my entire reality in order to recognise that he's real.

The simple fact, he's real, he's here now, he rose, he didn't die, he ascended, he granted us the

Holy Spirit, it's within you. It's not just a poem, it's a deep, essential reality, it's more

real than your called Russell, and you can speak this language that you didn't invent,

Using lungs that you didn't give yourself, walking on a land that you didn't ...

space that seems to be expanding with a molecular world that's full of weird paradox and miracle,

you didn't do any of that, but you can through his grace, participate in it, through truth,

first truth, like you said, confession, confess or this is all in my brokenness, this is who I am,

do what you want with me, and in a way that is liberating, because every part of me, Tucker, that doesn't want to be convicted of rape and go to jail, but there's a part of it, hey, that's a bit of me and how I'm trying to get rid of that little guy, but there's a part of me that also thinks, well hang on, if this can happen, anything can happen, if you can conjure up, and also by the way, you know, like we're saying watching your content, I'm thinking,

oh man, am I just some guy banging on about his divorce? Well, this thing happens to me, he's not fair, I can show you, he's logical, I know that guy, he better not be coming to dinner, I like so much, yeah, so um, yeah, like you were freed, sometimes, sometimes, and in that fear, that fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, but 365 times do not be afraid, and so what is the fear of God is the beginning of God has absolute power, it's the beginning of wisdom,

it's not the end of wisdom, it's the beginning, so if I sort of recognize that God is the person that must be my focus, I will be taken on a journey, and if obviously God wants me to go through this, because this is happening, so, but it's also sort of kind of not odd in a bunch of ways, other than the odd anomaly, if I didn't do the things I'm accused of, it really makes sense, in a lot of ways, I worship the world, I was exploitative and greedy, and but it's loads of ways

that it makes sense, I kept missing opportunities to live a good life, like God would show me,

hey look, you've got this amazing wife and these beautiful children, don't be afraid from now,

I still don't know, I should have motion, I'll be powerful, I'm looking here, I keep falling into, I need, I obviously have a person that needs clearance structure, and I've received it, so, are you going to start your campaign while you're in London on trial?

I'm starting now, right now, and it's in 2020, you have to, you know,

like the business end of running for Mayor of London, it's pretty practical, you pay 10 grand, you get some signatures in every single bar of London, but this is the thing that I think is important, it doesn't matter if it's me, it matters what the idea is, if you have a green, Mayor of London or a reform, Mayor of London or a coat and a conservative or even if custody can't

continue doing it, you know what you're going to get. If you vote for participatory, open source

direct democracy, where every single decision, where possible, and I don't see why all of it wouldn't be possible, and open for referendum, Switzerland does it four times a year, massive referendum, that's a whole country, you have the opportunity to change London meaningfully, now that is populism and populism is a kind of daily word, people seem to think that the population are dirty, that they're sorry, wrong with people, more brawl, but say what we have now,

he's closer to mob brawl, mafia, mob, mob mentality, we know what mob means, and also by the way, I rather object to the fundamental principle of contemporary politics by leadership and governance, by a pointed leaders, that you don't understand, you're stupid, you don't know what we know, we need people that have been through these institutions to run government, I don't like that, I object to it on the most personal, sociological and relational grounds, some of the beautiful

people I meet haven't had formal education, some of those intelligent people I meet haven't had a formal education, and the idea that power belongs to an elite is for me, it's disgusting, and I think for a minute, if I can be entirely honest, I was so sort of blind-sided and overwhelmed by the events that we've talked about a lot over the course of this conversation, that I actually forgot, you're supposed to be doing something for other people,

you're not meant to be here just for you, you're supposed to be doing something for other people, and the idea that someone as self-involved as I have been is narcissistic, anistic and indulgent, as Epicurian as I've been in my life, well now say, I listen, it doesn't even matter if it's me, I doubt it doesn't matter if I'm the mayor of London, the system,

this idea is what matters, open source, direct democracy, where you vote for if you want

you let cameras, or this kind of policing, or that kind of policing, is it Facebook or is it knife crime, what do you care about, you're not stupid, you're not an idiot, and indeed it is possible to transcend this hysterical, endless conflict between Muslims in the UK, gay people, as he's straight, who's pointless, he's irrelevant, he's abstract, I care more about my dog dying than the horrors in Gaza, because when my dog dies, I'm falling apart and grief and I'm

coughing and I'm puke out, and that's how God made me, of course, I should do everything in my power to prevent genocide and destruction and war and hypocrisy and lies, but I've got a lot of

That in house, and until I deal with that, I'm no good to anybody, I'm no goo...

maybe people in London shouldn't be thinking about Israel, Palestine, all the time, maybe they should

be thinking about how to run London themselves, how do you want it run, is that to you, why are you an idiot, did you believe what they told you, do you want to live in what they told you forever, or do you want to take this precious gift of life, grown into you by God, or an unknown cosmic force of random molecular chance of somehow ended in your consciousness, and everyone you love, and grief, and mourning, and poetics, and archetype, and participate in it, while you're here,

all too briefly, unless you accept him, repent, and enter into eternity through him, that's one route, and yeah, we've got to book out of that, also though, you could be running your community, if it's bothering you at all, then the post-epstein file release era, which they were just like,

maybe we should have this one, or that one, we'll do what do you think, like what we've been told,

they're mad occultists, having sex with children, on an island, what do you need to know,

I'm actually younger, I'm much longer, I'm just so glad there's the fridge out there, of me, on YouTube, or on Bill Ma, or wherever, saying, hey, listen, Fox News is no worse than MSNBC, on obey, you know, it's out there, I've said it, on the television, and I'm saying it now, and I'm saying it now from a position of, I recognize the position I'm in, I recognize my own fallibility and brokenness, I don't think I should be in charge, I don't think anyone should

be in charge, they're all broken and fallen, the problem with representative democracy is on that little horse ride from their constituency to Congress or to Westminster, where 400 years ago representative democracy at least had a rational undergirding, as well as no obvious technological solution, it seems that other interests getting there of these people, and so maybe would you

vote this way, or maybe would you never say that again, or maybe shut your mouth right now,

and if we don't change that fundamental flaw, then you're going to live in an endless whirling, downward cycle, a senseless spiral of their insanity, which we could intervene in, with the one, if we know we have, consciousness, love, life, glory, inclusive of everyone, beyond this, not your job to worry about whether someone's a Muslim or a Jew or an atheist or homosexual, you worry about running your own life here, you vote, do you want that, yes or no, no,

okay, 67% of people vote, no, we're not doing that anymore, we want another vote, okay, we'll have another vote, not like Brexit, we'll just keep voting until we can do what we were going to do anyway, not like every single general election, or even Trump, even someone who seems pretty in themselves, eventually over time, I thought it was a great post you did, by the way, like you know, eventually like give him some grace, that was great, like even someone like him

can be just turned into whatever they want, and then like the people that are ultra-conspiratorial, and I think probably closer to the truth than any of us, which say, we told you all along, it doesn't matter who you vote for, you're going to get the same results, you know the macro

picture, you know the geopolitical picture, bear in anybody, but I think the only way to do it,

it's this thing that I'm starting to trust from being in your country, the American people are beautiful, they're brilliant, they're not full of hatred, I'm like down there in like the pan and all they know, they know all like cool up in racism and bigotry, they just want to love their families and stuff, I sort of brilliant thing in my country, the farmer movement in my country's lively, the people love their land, you know, John Bull, John Bull is like a British

archetype, you know, and like they're getting into it, and it's kicking off as you will be obviously aware in Ireland, and like I saw something on the BBC said, like in the countryside, it's too white, and farmers are too racist, and it like, let me laugh out loud, I thought like, imagine being a farmer and they're sort of graft involved, the jobs, the duty, the toil, the trial, right, because get out, we've got plums, crops, we've got till that field, we've got

feet, those cows, we've got getting there and cleans our soil for next year, then I have to stop for a while, burn some carons, then I'm going, then I've got shout out a hate language over a provera hedge into an adjacent field, this field goes fellow, this one here, this one's from my bizarre ritual to racial hatred, that's my homophobia barn, but I don't have time, so they're telling you that people have got problems that they don't have, the British country side's white, because

that's where British white people have lived for ages now, I'm making people hate one another

for, it's reached a kind of an absurd frequency, and I feel that, I believe in him, he's real,

so if I'll run for mayor of London, and nothing will happen, or I'll run for mayor of London and go jail, or I'll run for, but what will happen if people talk is the idea of holding a minute, yeah hold on that technology, they're saying we'll work for our digital ID, wait a minute, that would work, and then we wouldn't have dominion voting machines that might be maybe centrally corruptable and compromised, you put the doctrine, democracy in the hands of the people,

open source it, the technology exists now, it's like the Adobe Weeks is on house arrest,

You just talk to that guy by the way, he like he was a Bitcoin entrepreneur, ...

on, he got rich too quickly, the FBI just came, took all of his equipment, put him in jail,

they've confiscated billions from this guy, and under house arrest this day is a waiting

trial you should meet him, so we're in these areas of the ingenuity exists, the grace exists,

the righteousness exists, the talent exists, this whole country that came from back dirt and paganism,

and in 250 years it's the most powerful and unprecedented and glorious nation in history,

which by the way I think is Jerusalem now, because if Israel was the original people and Paul says go to the Gentiles and our Lord says be a lightable nation and everyone will come from everywhere,

I mean it's time to sound familiar and all of these railroad entrepreneurs and all of these

miners in this rich soil and the furriers and the trapears and the banks and everything,

and then all of a sudden it gets captured in a peculiar way that I don't quite understand and it's got another agenda, this is the grace country in earth, they all know this, this could be Jerusalem, but that won't happen with current institutional biases, don't you reckon if the founding fathers of your nation were alive now they say, what should we do to implement the changes that are possible now as a result of extraordinary advance? Russell Brand had to become a Christian seven days,

I think it's pretty obvious that God is using you and I'm going to your trial. Oh good, thanks.

What's over the seventh? Is it actually October the 7th? Oh my God, I didn't even see that. Yes, it is. Your trial is October 7th. Do you know when my friend said to me from what he goes, he goes, what I know about the state and the kind of interest we're talking around is they do think preemptively, like if they think right, if we're going to take this course of action, what are the potential obstacles in this reason? Well, preemptively,

give it to that one, give it to that one, give it to that one, rather that's the perfect, I didn't realise, yes, I assume you're pretty sure hearing us a 9/11. Just go, I'm just guessing, I don't know. Thank you for that. Thank you. We're proud to launch our new bookstore with Russell Brands, how to become a Christian in seven days. It is the message this country needs most. Find you today on Tucker CarlsonBooks.com.

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