Tyler Oliveira: Exposing Somali Welfare Abuse, Republican Hypocrisy & the Group You Can’t Criticize

- Thanks for having me.

- I was looking through YouTube numbers,

which I don't normally ever do though with anybody, but you're huge. (laughs) So big you were, I'm flattering me, yeah. - Well, it's real.

- Well, you're a lot bigger than me, I'll tell you that. So a lot bigger. So I'm amazed and impressed. So before we get into how you,

“I think kind of accidentally step into this controversy.”

- Yeah. - Where are you from? How did you start doing this? - I'm from a desk so California. I started doing this.

- I started doing this. - That's such a verb in relish. - Yeah, meth, meth, auto theft and... - What meth meth? - And I'm from.

- Farming. - Farming. - Amons. - A small agricultural town in the centre of mind. - For people who are not familiar with California Ag.

What's an amond? - I think it's an almond that is yet to fall from the tree. - Yeah. - I actually couldn't be bothered. I'm not fully certain.

It's an elis almond. - So you're from the desk. - Yeah. - I went to college for three months, dropped out. I was doing YouTube full time, sort of accidentally walked into the field of investigative.

- How many kids in your class at UCLA were doing YouTube full time? Was that like a... - Not that I'm aware of that. - That was not a major? - No, no.

- It was not a trendy thing to do. - I just decided to do that. - Um... - I don't know. I didn't want to go to college.

I wanted to get out of there at the cost. - Not bless you. - So I was charging those lime scooters and then filming videos and then I just dropped out and left forever. - How long did it take you to support yourself or feel like you were...

I had a real job doing this. - I think about a month into it. - Really? - I really wanted to subsist. - Yeah.

- Oh, immediately. - Yeah. Pretty immediately. - Amazing. - Doing all kind of videos.

- A goofy stuff, Tucker. Um... All sorts of stuff. - I think you've reached on this. - I think you've reached on this.

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- I think you've reached on this.

“- How did you wind up in this variety of, like, basically doing journalism?”

- We're doing journalism. - Yeah, we're doing a lot of goofy stuff. One day, we saw what happened in East Palestine, Ohio. I think about three and a half years ago, maybe. - Yeah.

- There was a trained rail mints. A bunch of toxic chemicals had leached into the water supply from what I remember. And there's kind of a media blackout at the time. And I saw what happened on TikTok.

And I was like, what if we just brought our camera there and asked people questions? - Where were you? - In Austin, Texas at the time. So we drove, I think, into Ohio.

And it just started filming people and asking questions and try to figure out what was going on. And then it sort of evolved into whatever we do now, which comprises of basically amateur documentaries and investigative journalism.

- We see, you just, you don't work for anyone, but yeah, no, I'm fully independent.

Self-funded always have been no investors of any kind.

- You're on investment. - You and a couple other people. - Yeah, four or five people behind the scenes, putting these videos out. - And you're watching TikTok at your place in Austin,

and you see there's a train derailment in Ohio, so you get in the truck and is drive to Ohio? - Exactly. - That's the whole thing. - I thought it'd be an interesting video.

I thought it'd be informative. And we're trying to sort of mature what we were doing on YouTube make it a little more serious, because I was becoming what, 22 years old. I was like, I don't want to do goofy nonsense

for my entire life. What if we did something actually useful? So we showed up and people really resonated with it. It was informative and valuable. And yeah, I mean, there wasn't a ton of news crew there at the time.

It was somewhat irrelevant in the news ecosystem, but it was fascinating to me. So we showed up. - I remember your video. - So that that was it.

No one assigned it to you. - No, you're just going through TikTok and you saw it. - Exactly. - Just drive there. - Yeah.

- I think because I'm so much older, I've been in the formal media my whole life.

“It's just amazing that that's how it's done.”

- Yes. - Yeah, weird, right? - Yeah. - I mean, this is kind of the problem. I mean, this is what they told us the internet was going to be.

- Yeah. - Before it became like all porn and bots and sports gambling. - Yeah. - Like you're going to have citizen journalists and people would find out that true. - Yeah.

- Because you couldn't mediate it because it was, you know, - Yeah. - And you want to sort of put a name to that idea of citizen journalists for me, at least.

I never even heard the term.

I even know what we were doing was journalism, so to speak. But I feel like that's what it was and what it became. - So when you got selling a gas in what you did, like, what do you do? - We just asked people what was going on,

tried to gain access into some of these areas that were closed off, asking these federal agents what was going on, and just tried to sort of paint a picture of for what the media sort of failed to present to the broader American audience. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - It was interesting.

- Yeah. - So you just see people staying in the side of the road and say, "Hey, can I talk to you?" - Yeah, what's going on here.

- But you never got a degree in journalism from Columbia.

- I don't have a degree. - So how did you know how to do that? - Just talking to doing it for sillier stuff prior to this. - I was just making fun of the absurd idea. - Yeah.

- So I'll tell you how we got it. I was driving these vehicles that looked like Minecraft vehicles across America and we would go to gas stations and always have these funny interviews with random people like gas stations.

And we had this interview with a guy who was telling us about banging his cousin in Alabama. And I was like, "What if we took the beauty of what that moment was

“and just brought it to relevant important topics”

in day-to-day life?" So we did that. We took this gas station interview concept and sort of brought it over to actually important topics in our everyday life.

So here we are. - Here we are. - You make the video on these Palestinians. - Yeah. - If I saw it, it was so good.

- Yeah. - And I was like, "What if we just keep doing more of this?" - Did it get a lot of views? - It did. - Yeah.

- I like three or four million views.

- Wow. - Yeah. - I think so. - Yeah. - Amazing.

- But for what? For us, it was a validation that this is something people can use, and it's informative, and it feels and sort of where the mainstream media is, is not interested in. - Well, it's objectively validation of that.

I mean, that's exactly what it is. - Yep.

“- And it also says something good about the country”

that people want to know what's happening outside their borders. - Yeah. - So then you just pivoted right then and decided to do more news? - Yeah.

- We did a variety of news topics to interesting cultural communities. Like hard access communities, like the pedophile village in Florida. - What? - We went over there and started interviewing a bunch of pedophiles. Asked them how they ended up there.

To white supremacist in Arkansas. To black supremacist in what Harlem, New York. So just a broad range of interesting people places and things. From political to cultural to just wacky stuff. - What drove you?

- drove me? - Yeah, what was your motive? - Oh, just curiosity. I thought it was good at it. So let's go for it.

- That's the right motive there. - Yeah. - So then you started doing, when I first became aware of you, you moved from like the full outliers.

Like the pedophile community I never had heard of that before.

- And white supremacist is called Miracle Village. - And white supremacist in Arkansas. Black supremacist in Harlem. I've interviewed both those communities 30 years ago. So that everyone knows that exists.

But they're really so far out on the fringes of American life. But then you start moving closer to the actual news. Like the rest of the news is talking about. - Yeah. - And you started interviewing smallies.

- Yeah, so I think in December of 2025, we put out a video on Somali's Minneapolis. Now keep in mind to the local news is credit. They've reported on various forms of fraud for years over there. But there's something about their inability to story tell

and package those narratives that it's just never took off. - There's a talent gap there, yes. - Yeah.

“- And just a medium misunderstanding, I think.”

But long story short, what does that mean? - They just don't know how to use social media. They're illiterate, maybe by design or incompetence. I'm not sure, but what do they get wrong? I think they report accurately.

In fact, many social media guys often cite their reports. I think they just can't synthesize the information to the actual storytelling, to the packaging, and how these platforms like YouTube work. You're figuring it out, though, I see.

- I have definitely not figured it out at all. But I think the ability to tell a story works at dinner. It works on cable television, and it works on YouTube. It's like all kind of the same thing. Can you synthesize exactly right?

You just take the facts, and you put it into an order that you think is accurate. - Sure. - It's just truthful, you're not misrepresenting it. But it makes sense.

It's got a narrative structure of importance, too. - Exactly, thank you. - But yeah, we've covered tons of topics from all over the country and all over the world. But about whatever in December of 2025,

we did a video on Somalis and Minneapolis. A lot of it was focused on more of a demographic shift more so than fraud. Nick surely then puts out a video. I think a couple weeks later.

And it really bursts into the mainstream. He covers this daycare fraud. And this is like the biggest talking point in the GOP. I'm sure you saw, right? - Oh, yeah.

- I looked at it. They loved it. It was a perfect story, really. He found these layering centers, all this stuff. This blatant retardation, if you will, of.

- Yes, people from Somalia who can't even spell the word learning. Whatever it becomes part of the mainstream conversation about these third-worlders absorbing welfare benefits,

And everyone hates these people, right?

- So most people don't wake up in the morning and decide to feel horrible, exhausted, foggy disconnected from themselves. But it does happen and it happens slowly. You're working hard, you're showing up,

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You said, "I approach it as a demographic replacement question. They approach it as a fraud question." Great. There's a tease that out a little bit. Why, you sought slightly differently.

Well, it's not in bigger terms than they did, I think. Yeah, my focus was just, you take Minnesota, which is land of the Vikings, right?

“These Scandinavian people, and now it's becoming--”

You're speaking to a Carlson here alone. Exactly, right? Now it's home to Somalis. And I saw the Minnesota Vikings. They put out what I thank you to our Somali community or something on Twitter the other day.

So for me, it's just an interesting case study of a state in the United States of America that has such a generous welfare programs and has such a generous people that inevitably it attracts some of the most opportunistic parasitic, if you will, population of people from a destabilized country in Africa

that come here simply because of the benefits

they'll receive upon entering.

And it became a hub before these people opportunistically taking advantage of such generous people. This is why you've become so big. Yeah. Because, yes, thank you for saying that,

because it is bigger than-- It's a Minnesota thing too, right? It's a Minnesota-- Well, maybe. Which has some more demographics. Overwhelmingly northern European whites,

who have no idea what an idyllic place they have who hate themselves, because they've been talked to hate themselves. And so to a tone for since they didn't commit, the most destructive parasitic populations they can find. Sure.

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Let's keep the fun going, Tucker.

“Because you believe in universally applicable principles.”

Exactly. Not just tribal politics. Exactly. The thing above tribal politics, which is principle. What's the fact we founded on?

Right. Okay. We've covered plenty of this Islamic ethnic enclaves across America. It would be interesting to find a different group of people that do this. That's extremely religious and utilizes welfare in similar ways.

They found this village called Curious Showwell. Now, Curious Showwell is an all Jewish ethnic enclaves in upstate New York. At one point, they were the poorest town in America with 40% living beneath poverty line. They had the highest fertility rates in America. Having seven to ten plus kids.

Extremely high, anomalously high rates of welfare dependency from Medicaid to SNAP, EBT to Section A Housing Vouchers. So this is definitely a parasitic insulated Jewish community. I found it upstate New York. So to me, that was obvious.

I had an obligation almost to go there and film a video. If I was filming videos in Dearborn or Hamtramic or Minneapolis. Did you know that that was not allowed?

“I suspected we would unveil some hypocrisy, especially within the GOP.”

The larger Republican tent. Really? For sure. But you suspect it. I suspect it.

To this degree was a little bit surprising. But at that point, it was not fully confirmed. No, not long. No one had tested it yet. And I wanted to test the line.

Because you see so many of these guys on Twitter, cosplaying as these hardliner, principal first guys, America first, we'd out all the fraud, we'd out all the welfare exploitation. And then when it comes to specific groups, this principles disappear. So for me, I was like, I know this is going to happen to some extent. So what extent I didn't know?

Let's go there and show this. Do you think I'm showing you off track?

But this is a more amazing story that I've noticed.

Yeah. And I just want to say once again, I had no idea how big you were on YouTube. Yeah. No, well, the numbers show it. It's not my opinion.

There are many times my numbers. Very, I'm so impressed. So I just love that you're being rewarded for this. Oh, nice. Do you think the fact that you didn't go to college allows your mind to stay a little freer, more supple, less constrained by lies than if you had gone?

Yeah, maybe I'm a little less conditioned than the average condition. It was the word. That's generational cohort. Yeah. No, I think I mean, to be fair to my generation, Gen Z.

Yeah. A lot of people agree with me. Gen Z is on the same boat here. Yeah. But I think they're far more principally consistent than a lot of our political representatives.

“And they're all for it. I think, well, you know, who's not?”

Who? A lot of these evangelical boomers seemingly. I've known is real is a hard line. And anything remotely indicative of Israel or related to Israel and any capacity, including how civic Jews apparently is off limits, Jesus doesn't seem to be the hard line for them at all, which is a little surprise.

They'll tolerate this. And I'm talking about the leaders. I'm not talking about the people at all. But as some of the leaders, you know, you could say whatever you want about it. We've done videos on corrupt Christian mega churches.

We've done videos on, you know, Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. What's interesting to note is that most Christians watching the videos, we did about corrupt Christian mega churches were highly apologetic for what they viewed to be as an aberration from true Christianity. They were denouncing what they view as a bastardization of Christianity.

That's how I feel. Exactly. Yeah. But for what we found after putting this Jewish video out is that there's almost like an immune system response of how civic, you know, orthodox, secular Jews have each other's back. It was what I took away from the backlash that followed that.

So it's interesting.

So tell us your, first of all, what did you find? Yes. So Kirstrow out.

Yeah. In New York, it says New York City, 40% below the poverty line at least at one point. Highest birth rate in the country right now. What's it like? What is it? It is reminiscent of a European stethel.

A Jewish village you might have seen pre-World War II. That's how they described themselves. What I saw was a ton of aesthetic Jews walking to synagogue's praying

I guess to another synagogue to pray some more and study the Talmud some more.

That's basically all I saw.

“People praying and people living off of the teeth of the welfare system in many ways.”

Just to be clear, I've got no problem with praying or following the religion and I've supported. It's the living off the taxpayer part. You are. It is too much. Yeah. I mean, to give them credit. Obviously, there is some level of communal support.

Sometimes they'll rely on in laws for some initial financial support, whatever. But largely by design. Their entire lifestyle is designed to extract and exploit these welfare systems to the maximum degree. It is strategic. It is not happenstance.

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And if you talk to any non-religious Jew in Israel, it's like the third sentence out of their mouth. I am angry with these people for this. So it's not just here.

For sure. And a lot of Israelis actually, they would contact me and say this was an amazing video.

We have this game issue. Do you maybe that's cool? That's maybe the one thing I totally believe that. Yeah, it was funny. Israelis were super supportive of it.

They're like this is great. They're draining the taxes from over here. And apparently there's a demographic ticking time bomb taking place over there. You're a pointer, right? Because they have similar levels of fertility rates and don't contribute economically the same way. No.

Don't serve in the military, which in Israel is a big deal since ever. Everybody, male and female, serves. And they've had an endless series of wars for 30 years, so you can imagine the bitterness. Yeah. Your kids are going off to risk their lives.

Your neighbors aren't? For sure. Yeah. So speaking of resentment though, it's the same logic and in the same vein that the average American tax pair,

“grinding their nuts off right now feels when they're going working us a seven to six, right?”

If you count for the commute to work and back from work, they see where their tax dollars were being spent. And they don't feel as if the money they're putting in, they ever get to see coming back out to that. No, of course not. And how many ethnic enclaves are they funding to live this totally insulated lifestyle that doesn't benefit them? And that was really what the conversation sparked in became.

What was it like as you walk through the community? How were you received? Un welcoming, I would say. Yeah. Especially with the camera, of course. I think if I was there without the camera, not questioning anything, I would have been tolerated for sure.

For those who haven't seen it, what kind of questions did you ask? What do you do for work? How do you afford to have seven to ten kids? You ask that. Hey, what do you do for work?

I study. I study Torah. Okay. How do you afford seven to ten kids? Oh, God. And I would be like, what about the American taxpayer?

And they would say that too. So, of course, that too. Was there any gratitude that you discerned? To the American taxpayer? For me asking these questions.

No, they say no, God bless them. God, I think it was not for America. I mean, maybe there is some. Sure. You didn't hear it, though.

I didn't feel it, no. No. Wow. What about local politicians? They must know this, right?

Oh, for sure. They're beholden to these people, though. They're beholden to the Jewish voting block. That exists in these concentrated Jewish communities in New Jersey and New York. So, we have an established importance of the Jewish voting block in states like New Jersey and New York.

Obviously, local politicians are aware of this. Even Donald Trump's aware of this. He put out a tweet saying, you know, thank you so much to Lakewood, New Jersey.

There's some tweet who put out thanking them in 2024. And they're one of the most powerful voting blocks because of their consistency.

They always show up and they always vote on behalf of whatever the rabbinical leadership tells them to.

So, if they say, vote for this guy, they consistently show up on behalf of that candidate. There's no partisan loyalty. They'll shift from Democrats for Republicans as long as the benefits outweigh. One party over the other. So, they're the perfect voting block.

No one wants to stop their gravy train for fear of losing their votes. So, democracy has been literally subverted. Like hijacked here. Oh yeah, hijacked. He's seemingly in exactly the same way it has been in the lowest in Maine and Minneapolis Minnesota by the Somalis.

Yes, seemingly an organized group. A small organized minority can disproportionately impact everything.

“Could you have these communities without publicists without welfare?”

No. Actually, you could. Did you as community would not? Because they're so dedicated to studying, full time, spending so much time, praying, et cetera, et cetera. Although there are precedents for that being possible, which I always bring up the omnisch community.

They're self-sufficient.

They're fully reliant on their own, sweat and toil.

It can be done. So, the Christian community pays for itself. Exactly. Oh, okay. But the others don't.

Oh, seemingly not. So the omnisch, this is a dumb question. Yeah, I just assumed I knew the answer would something you really do. The omnisch are not in welfare. They're not li- Oh.

No, they are philosophically opposed to taking welfare. They do not want to take any welfare. They find it as shameful as most people probably should, right? Because it's a safety net to reduce poverty and not a way of life. And not a strategy for maintaining a lifestyle of having seven to 10 kids when you can't afford

to otherwise. I think. Of course not. Right. Especially in the century that has no state religion.

That is an allowed to support yourocracy.

“I mean, speaking for myself and I think I've reflected in constitution.”

Yeah. I absolutely think that orthodox should have a right to any kind of religious practice they want. So I actually aren't hurting anyone. And same with this smiley, same as the Muslims in Michigan, same as the omnisch in Pennsylvania. But I put the idea that taxpayers would support someone else's religion.

Yeah. It's not allowed. And it's even funnier for me because for some of these groups, there is outward hostility, right? You take some of these. I would argue these orthodox Jewish groups.

There is in fact hostility when we were there asking people questions, asking them what they do for living, how they get their money, how they afford their little society. There is hostility. So for me as a taxpayer, it's like we're going to take your money. If you question it, you're anti-Semitic and we hate you.

What was anti-Semitic about it? The ADL said it, "Harkin' back to anti-Semitic stereotypes of them being a drain on society or something like that. When it's all statistically corroborated, I'm not pulling these out of my ass. These are welfare stats I was quoting. And then I would go to the direct source asking these people, what do you do for living?

How many kids do you have? How do you afford your kids? Are you on welfare? How is that anti-Semitic?

“Why do they get their own brand of their own proper knowledge of racism that never makes sense to me?”

I agree. It's odd, right? It is odd. It's weird. It is odd.

I haven't thought you actually about that, but I think it's you make a fair point. Is it how is bigotry against one group different from bigotry against any group? But of course, if you believe in absolute standards, it's not. It's all the same as the right is the same thing. But if you believe that only one group should be immune from criticism,

then you're not against racism, of course, you're an advocate of racism. Sure. You're arguing a kind of supremacy. Yeah. Jewish supremacy.

Yeah. Or any kind. I mean, any kind. If you can attend this case. Anyone. But why do piscopalian men? Everyone else is very good.

What on earth can you not discuss, though, right? I don't know. You can disrespect Christianity without any flag. You can disrespect Islam legally. They might kill you for it.

And seemingly with Jews. Or at least some of these groups of Jews. The legal fair may begin. You might get de-platforms or pulled off some sites. So what happens?

You do this video in New York. It cares too well. What kind of reception does it get? The Americans are happy. Thank you for calling this out. The locals who live in nearby communities.

Thank God.

Someone is finally really spoken out about this.

Oh, the locals have strong feelings about it. Oh, they're perpetually grateful to me. Because no one has ever touched this. Because seemingly it's radioactive. If you have any political ambitions,

they die overnight.

This is a strong voting block.

And on top of that, they're leveraging the generational guilt of the Holocaust. Your anti-Semitic, if you oppose any of what they're doing. So I was a hero to the local communities that lived nearby. Just to be clear, the Holocaust was not committed by Americans.

“We were actually the people who ended it, I think.”

You can't make the sub-tucker, right? No, but I just won't. Because history does get so distorted in the real time. America did not commit the Holocaust. What does that mean?

We lost many, many, many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Americans fighting against it. So actually America is the hero in that story. So I don't know why any Americans would feel guilt. That's something that we gave the lives of our ancestors to stop. So that's just my opinion.

That's a great point. It is a weird, it's a weird thing. It's a mechanism that's almost reflexive for a lot of these people to throw at the anti-Semitism, and then the conversations buried. So it's a shield to dissuade further argumentation as to why I disagree with,

let's say, a Jewish group, their actions. Right. And it's abused, obviously, and it's weight seems to no longer. I heard that it was abused. Yeah.

I mean, I think so. Right? Yes. Okay, someone had told me. To clarify, I'm an equal opportunity, a fender, so to speak, and I think you've demonstrated them.

Yeah, I'll talk to any of these groups of people and have plenty of critical questions for all of them.

Not just Jewish people.

“I didn't wake up one day and say, let's go piss off some Jews, right?”

It's just, this is a perfect example of an ethnic enclave. That exploits the welfare system. And let's go check it out. Just like I wouldn't Muslim group or mainstream group, right? Just as you did.

Exactly. Exactly. Okay, so you get big numbers, the audience likes it. Hmm. The neighbors are grateful for it.

A bunch of Israelis say, hey, we love this because we've lived it. Yeah, yeah. Where does the criticism come from? Um, Republican, Demagoguery. Um, I think some politicians, Republican politicians.

The Republican party at large is as opposed to it. Real. The left can get behind it. A lot of the right can get behind it. But also a lot of the right is disgusted by it.

How dare he, he engage in anti-Semitism. Um, the ADL says it harkens back to age old anti-Semitic tropes. Um, yeah. I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to say.

I don't even know what to say. So how do you? It's just laughable, you know? Do you need the people who praised your Somali.

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they attack this? Yes. Same people.

Yes. Yeah. I would give names. But their names are probably two irrelevants to invoke here at this table. But you know, certainly hypocrisy.

You know of people who praised one video exposing horse. Yeah. Harassitic behavior by an ethnic enclave. But attacked the same thing when it was another enclave. For sure.

For sure. Okay. Well, that you would think even secular Jewish communities would be like, Hey, you know, thanks for pointing this out. We appreciate that.

Which some of them did, of course. I mean, there is a tribal mentality of why are you attacking these poor innocent Jews who just want to mind their own business. That's great. Go mind your own business. Not on my dime, sucker.

I pay taxes. Oh, I agree. Quit taking money out of my wallet.

“If you want to go live in the woods, do it.”

Work hard enough to buy your own property and go do it. I shouldn't have to subsidize your lifestyle. It's that simple. Totally agree on that though. There's no beef.

There's no frustration. There's no hatred. It's just, I think, if any, any honest person sees exactly the point you're making. That's pretty hard to disagree with it. Yeah.

Any serious person? Well, yeah. I mean, if you think this is okay, is it okay to have? I don't know. Some Christian Nazi group or, or whatever.

At that point, right? So there's that all white community that's trying to start up in the Arkansas. The, the Ozarks. Yeah, they're going to get sued into oblivion. Just for existing.

Just for violating the fair housing act, right? For discriminating against non-whites. For those who don't know, it's a group in the Ozarks that's trying to build an all white town. Yeah.

That's illegal. With tax money? No. Self-funded. So the beauty of curious showouts of me was we're essentially going to de facto violate the fair housing act.

De facto segregate ourselves from secular society with secular taxpayer dollars. And if you don't like it, you're anti-Semitic fuck you. That was my takeaway. What's that? And white people can't do it.

Blacks tried to do it in downtown Philadelphia in the mid-80s and they got fired by the mayor. Yeah. Yeah. They literally got blown up with a bomb. Not to, you know, look, whatever.

I've never been for racial separatism, but like I also believe in freedom of association.

That's do whatever you want. Honestly, right? I think actually you should be able to do that.

What if em segregating? That's fine.

Why would you not want to live next to the people that look like you?

Um, worship the same God, pray like you, raise their children the same way. Yeah. But why can they only do it? That's all. Well, here's a pretty awful statistic.

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So I can talk about it. Muslims, Christians, pimps, prostitutes, any group you can imagine. But this was the no-no Tucker. This was the radioactive topic. Which you had an advertiser in my video.

Typically, they do not ask me for the topic of the video for this video.

I've never been asked about it.

Exactly. I generally have creative flexibility to place these sponsorships I get. On whatever video I please. But for this one, I put out a tweet saying, "Have you ever heard of Curious Showwell?" And I broke down some of the statistics regarding their welfare use.

And I'm not going to name the company. But one of the the correspondents on behalf of the company saw it. And wanted to clarify that it would not be about the orthodox shoes. And then when I said, "Yeah, it is. They pulled out." So obviously, they have the right to spend their money.

How they please. It's just funny. And it goes to show seemingly which groups you cannot talk about.

“Well, I think that's pretty clear at this point.”

I have a lot of thoughts about that. The main one is, I think it's kind of productive. Obviously, it's not good for anyone in the end. But I also think it's a violation of like the core idea of America, which is... At least to resentment, I think, a big time.

For a lot of people. Big time. And sort of proves their points right in the sense of you have special privileges. Because no, I don't. You can't talk about us shut up. Okay. So you do have special privileges.

Oh, I agree. Do you? So after that video, so many residents from New Jersey reached out to me and said, Hey, we have the same thing going on here in Lakewood, New Jersey and surrounding towns. Please come here and take a look. So Lakewood, I think it's the most populous Jewish town besides what Brooklyn, New York,

on the United States, massive Orthodox Jewish community. And many of the towns have been turned over, so to speak. Non-Jewish towns have become predominantly Jewish towns and the last two decades from understanding that early 2000s, especially. And it has been perpetrated through pretty aggressive methods, so to speak.

Really? Yes. So we're talking about the consolidation of political dominance from the township board, to the planning board, to the zoning board, to the school board. And the heritage residents in these areas, there are humanists. They've made it so uncomfortable for us that we've either left.

If we've had the means to leave financially and those who are left behind, send their kids to a dismantled, eluded and pillaged public school system that's been destroyed inadvertently by the presence of these Orthodox shoes. How is it destroyed the school? So in New Jersey, the state funding formula for schools is a derivative of public school

attendance, okay? So if I had 5,000 public school attendees, that would be multiplied by X to determine the amount of money in our school gets. So what happens is when Orthodox Jewish communities come in,

“they overwhelm these school districts with Jewish students who go to Yashivas, right?”

They do not attend the public school system. Yet simultaneously, those schools have an obligation to fund private transportation, special education for these private schools. So what ends up happening is a large piece of the pie ends up getting allocated towards

special education within the Jewish community. Wait, the state pays for gender segregation, gender segregated busing. Yeah, the state pays for that. Correct, so that's state funded. You can't even get states to have gender segregated bathroom, but they're paying for gender segregated busing.

Sure, because they argue it's a violation of their freedom to religious express themselves. And yeah, there's gender segregated busing at play. What about Title IX? There's no federal law, that's a means. Sure. Yeah, so what are you, it's a violation of the establishment clause. By the way, just in point of fact, I'm okay with gender segregation.

Yeah, I have a problem that it's at all. In fact, I think it's good in some ways. But yeah, I just didn't know that the government could pay for, because I thought the official position of the government in every level was gender segregation. So it was bad, including in the John.

“Yeah, but no, it's okay when I guess that you should just do it.”

Sure, because there were religious organizations, okay, which, you know, different conversation, but religious freedoms in this country, I think, have gone too far or have been weaponized by bad actors. Yeah, I mean, there seems to be less religious freedom for some people, but a lot more for others. Yeah, and this is not the only instance of this exact same behavior. The blue prince was made and east from Apollo in Muncie, New York, not too far away.

Basically, Orthodox Jews came into this community of mostly black and brown working class poor people.

A lot of bunch of real estate established their presence, voted themselves into positions of power in the school board, the zoning board, the planning board, the city council, they voted to defund like after school activities for the kids in the public schools to increase the amount of funding for these Yashivas, and then they would consolidate the public schools that existed. As the funding basically went down and the public student enrollment went down as people left. It would consolidate them, consolidate them, meaning they would close down some of the public schools.

And they would then sell them off for a discounted price to these Yashivas. So it's take away from nearby towns and so they actually took over the physical plant, the buildings, the public schools at discounted rates. Yeah, below market rates, arguably. Damn, it's brutal, right? So the lesson for nearby towns was, we don't really have any upside for these people to move in.

“If the state funding formulas designed in such a way that the quality of our kids and their public education will go down,”

and they will like themselves into political power and basically be aggressive and unreasonable neighbors to live by. So yeah. So it's an amazing story. Yeah, it's interesting. So you get calls from people saying that this is going on.

What you covered in New York is happening, it's even bigger. Not a call. Just widespread social media feedback. Yeah, like hey, you saw here, there's there's tons of it in more here and like would come come down. So what's like would like?

Um, Lakewood is somewhat described as little Jerusalem is real 2.0.

I've never been to Israel.

The climate's fundamentally different. But New Jersey is the same size as Israel weirdly. Funnily enough. But I bet you the landscape in Israel is more charming. Probably so, right?

Yes, the Holy Land, right? Yeah. I mean, it's New Jersey first off. It's a notion county. The climate's much different.

“But it is densely populated with, I think, 2/3 of the population is orthodox Jews.”

The driving's terrible. And they run the show down there. And you went. I went, I went to Lakewood. I went to Montenegro.

I went to the nearby town of Jackson. Jackson Township. We're also, we go. We went all over. What kind of experience did you have?

Um, oh, I was the bogeyman. A lot of these people had seen the video in Curious Showwell and they were afraid for me to come down to Lakewood, New Jersey.

There were group chats where they would disseminate Yiddish posters, basically saying,

"Do not talk to anyone with a camera. Do not let anyone in our synagogues play Disney music." So he gets a copyright claim on his videos. Like, I was the devil after that video in Curious Showwell came out in other orthodox Jewish communities. Because I also put out a tweet saying, "I'm going to come down.

Let me know if you have any tips. I'm coming." Basically. Wow. So what happened when you got there?

They went talk to you? Of course. Yeah. Well, despite them being told not to talk to me, a lot of Jewish people did come up to me. And their main point was the laws written in such a way that we deserve to receive these welfare

We qualify legally and therefore it's okay and good.

And if you have a problem with that, go move to a different country. My position was to go move to a different country? Sure. I mean, obviously not all of them thought that way. There were a few friendly encounters, but mostly it was pretty confrontational, unwelcoming.

I was very frustrated that I was there. I can take it therefore. I'm just what I'm taking it. Yeah. So beyond the ethics of whether or not it was a good or bad thing to do, their justification

was if the law is written in such a way, we are justified in doing it. The law was somehow supreme over what I would argue to be morals or ethics that in my opinion, this is a bad thing to exploit or take advantage of if that's what you're doing. But for them, it's not coincidental. It's by design.

It's systemic exploitation of a system. They're fully aware of all of its loopholes.

They understand the law in such a way that allows them to exploit it in every degree.

“I mean, I think what's your thing is a clash of worldviews?”

I think so. So I understand both. By the way, I understand both. Yep. But one is a legalistic worldview.

This is the law and we're within the ground. So the law, which is, I think, totally defensible. And the other is, well, there's a higher law having to with your ethics honor and a great name. Yes, and you see this repeatedly in the New Testament when Jesus heals on the Sabbath. Yeah.

There's a little all-famous scenes, but there's a particularly memorable scene where he healed the guy who's been crippled for 38 years at the pool of Beth Sida. And the guy gets up and picks up as Matt and starts walking in the Pharisees. There's on him. The guy hasn't walked in 38 years, though.

Like you're holding your mat on the Sabbath. This is against the law. Sure.

And Jesus is like, no, you're missing the boy.

Yeah. I think after 38 years, like there's a higher calling here. Sure. And so I'm not attacking anybody. Yeah.

“I'm just saying, like, I think you're kind of seeing that in law versus ethics morality.”

I think that's my opinion. The way I view what welfare was designed. Yes. Yes. For, which was to help indigents, you know, poverty, single mom with some kids.

They can't afford to-- Or even more broadly, there are things that were allowed to do that we don't do, because we were doing ourselves. I agree. I can scream the effort to the grandmother.

There's no law against it, but I don't because that's disgusting, right? I think so. You could probably get on welfare right now. Oh, I'm sure a lot of people could and don't do to this concept of shame, which is seemingly not universal, right?

Yes. We let all of these groups of people from all over the world, including Jewish people, right? Including, you know, sub-Saharan Africans, whoever it may be into the United States. Because apparently we have this obligation of being a melting pot. Whatever that means, however new that concept is.

And we're surprised when we learn that we have different worldviews, different values, different gods, different interpretations of reality that guide our actions. Thus, the divide, because the heritage residents in a city like Lakewood are saying, "Yeah, we know you can legally qualify, but we're tired of paying for your shit. Please stop."

And they're saying, "Herm, the loss says I can, therefore I will." And it's I simultaneously. If you don't like it, leave. They're for leave. You leave your country.

Yes. Despite their whole lifestyle being contingent on being subsidized by the welfare, that is paid for by secular tax dollars, is my position. So you can't be mad at the person that funds your entire way of life. I think that's disingenuous.

And that's a little ungrateful. It's the definition of it. Do local politicians, so they weigh in on this? They didn't weigh in on it directly when I put my video out. But all local politicians cave to these guys.

The voting block is too immensely valuable for anyone to shut this down to cap. The amount of benefits that they receive to two kids or three kids. No one wants to take away their gravy train because they want the votes. So the votes in exchange for them to be able to live the life, however they want to please. To teach their kids, however they want to exhaust the welfare system, however they please,

and to not prosecute seemingly any wrongdoers. So yeah. So this video comes out. Did you have any?

“I should ask, did you have any like hospital exchanges?”

Yeah. For sure. I mean, I want to emphasize that I know fear of being physically armed in these communities. That's, I got to throw bone their way. Unlike Minneapolis, I did fear the Somali communities attacking me or shooting me. For sure.

That's a real fear. Showing up to curious show how their lake would. That's not a real fear. There's no fear of physical harm in my opinion. I walk without security there.

That's not a real concern. Where did you felt threatened in the Somali? Sure. Yeah. I mean, or some of these crime-written predominantly Black cities. And let's say Jackson, Mississippi, or Kensington, Philadelphia. I might fear. I might get shot.

So I'm not physically fearful. But we were intimidated by the local police. And most interestingly, they're own internal police. They have this, this thing called Shamrim. It's a volunteer community patrol.

But the de facto function is law enforcement within the community.

So we had this Shamrim volunteer police equivalent basically show up to us and say,

I'm going to let everyone know that they don't have to answer your questions. And we're going to follow you. So keep in mind that these people drive cars with red and blue lights. They look like undercover police vehicles. How was that legal?

I don't think it is, Tucker. But they do it. I'm not a lawyer, of course. But they're blasting through red lights with what appear to be undercover police cars. And this is a volunteer civilian patrol squad.

Now keep in mind. They receive some element of federal funds, township funds. So my tax dollars still somehow end up funding Shamrim. A volunteer police squad in New Jersey. How was that even possible?

The religious police. Exactly. Essentially like in Saudi Arabia, Iran. So I don't have a Muslim group did that. I get the idea posed.

You may do, I don't know. Yeah. And technically there are a volunteer civilian patrol squad. But they function as an intimidating force to stop you from doing things to sort of enforce the law. And oftentimes they've been accused of breaching what they can actually do legally.

“Whether it be like, I think they beat some gay black guy to blindness once in like,”

found heights, there have been several instances of people basically saying, Yo, they're not cops. Why are they acting like that? They ran over at Kidding Crown Heights in the 80s and caused one of the biggest riots in New York. Oh, is this the Crown Heights riots? Yeah.

We're hot solar. They're EMS. They're volunteer EMS. They didn't take the kid, but that took the Jewish guy, right? That's correct.

Well, that was the claim. I mean, I was the player. No, I wasn't there either.

Never know, and everyone lies about everything.

And ethnic conflict is incredibly hard to decipher like what? Because as soon as he gets tribal, everyone lies on behalf of the tribe, whatever the tribe. It's not just, it's not just the orthodox. It's the black people. What do any tribe does this?

So I don't really know what happened. Of course. But yeah, I don't know. That was certainly the account that history has recorded. And why wouldn't they have an in-group preferential bias, right?

Well, they do. And any person does, right? Obviously. White's don't. The exception of, like, post George Floyd.

I'm pretty sure they ran a study where whites were less inclined to shoot a black guy. Of course, much less. Obviously, right?

“What's your whole life is going to get torn to shreds?”

Right. And whites have just had a beaten out of them. And even in a country that fought the Nazis. Everyone from how it feels responsible for the Nazis. But anyway, yeah.

And there may be other reasons.

But the bottom line is, you're right.

Yes. We had rabbis telling us we couldn't be in the parking lot for the kosher west supermarket. Get out of here. People whispering in each other's ears. Don't talk to him. So there's seemingly this upper management,

rabbinical class that's telling the plebs to not talk to this guy. He's trouble. So there would be a lot of people excited to come up to me, actually. And tell a joke. Yeah.

I got a funny joke for you. I was like, all right, great. We'll show some positives. Guy comes up. Or, oops, don't talk to him.

He says, do you know how much money we make? That was his new response. I'm like, come on, man. Just show your humanity. Talk to me.

I'm here to talk. I'm not a scary guy. We're not rolling with 10 security guards. It's me and like a cameraman or two in the distance. I'm walking alone for the most part.

And I have a group of 10 to 20 of these orthodox shoes.

“Are you with me as to how they're entitled to welfare?”

That was seemingly promised. But yeah, so they had their own internal police force. The cops themselves were pulling me over without probable cause. I would say, hey, officer, I know you're doing your job. Why am I being pulled over?

They would say, you're a suspicious person. I would say, what's the suspicious about me? You were filming. Okay. We were filming on the sidewalk.

Give me your IDs. They can't articulate probable cause. We suspect that one of the high ranking local officials called the police and told them to give us off. A hard time. That's speculative.

I don't know. What country is this again? The United States. America. Okay.

Yeah. It's easy to forget them. Yeah. So yeah, it was hostile. It was unwelcoming.

They thought I was there to do a hit piece. I was there to talk to them. And I'm allowed to do a hit piece if you want in your own country. Yeah. And I am allowed to do that.

It was fair in my opinion. But be, I don't have to show up to show the positive sides of whatever community. That's for Joe Smoto do. I'm here to jump into the heart of darkness and ask the hard questions. And if people get pissed off, it then so be it.

It's not your problem. It's on my progative. I want to do the fun hard stuff. Right. I'm asking the questions that may piss off a few people.

So did you get the same picture you got? It carries too well that this is a community supported by welfare. On the economics are a little bit different. They're a little more well off financially.

But basically at any given time,

you can expect half of the population that's 16 and up to be unemployed. Half half. So keep in mind, though, Tucker, that in a place like Curious Joe,

“I think the median age is less than 16 years old.”

So what that really means is half the population is children. And half of the adult population is unemployed. And not seeking employment. Whether it be religious study, child rank for the women. They have no intention of getting a job.

And financially contributing. So yeah. So have that video do. Oh, that one went nuclear. Republicans were pissed.

They were. Good faith Republicans, in my opinion, drew comparisons to the Somali situation and said, "What's the difference between the Jews here using the welfare and systematically exploited of ways?"

And the Somali is like, "What's the difference, basically?"

Bad faith Republicans. Hypocretical Republicans were saying, "They're using the system as intended. They don't cause any violent crime. Leave them alone, essentially."

You're not allowed to talk about it. Why don't they leave us alone? Right? As a taxpayer. Yeah.

You're self, and no one would have an issue. And that's really the correct answer. Sure. I like eccentric self-sufficient religious communities. I don't want to bother anyone of them.

Sure. But part of the secondary argument is, there are intrusion into the community. And the words I used were, "Invasion" has led to the inadvertent destruction of the public school system

for the secular or goiom population. The non-Jewish population in these towns.

Basically, as more Jews move in,

it is unavoidable that your public school quality will go to shit. Your kids will have a lesser quality of education. So it's either get out now while you can sell your house to the Orthodox Jews moving in or be the last one holding the bag

as your town goes to shit. Man, that's upsetting. Kind of, right? So this video goes bonkers on the internet.

“Yeah, so within, I think, less than 24 hours,”

my Patreon is deleted, mysteriously. It's Patreon. Patreon is a sort of a crowdfunding website that allows you to directly raise money from your viewers or fans or whatever

where you can say, "Hey, you can get access to these videos for five bucks a month." So a large portion of our independence was from this website where we had people subscribe to our Patreon. It's just a website that allows you to collect money

on a subscription or routine basis. Less than 24 hours after releasing this video, my Patreon is deleted, gone without warning. Why? They cited some BS.

They basically, the way the terms of services written is in such a manner that they can take you down. But that's your business. That's my business, right? Obviously, it's their business.

It is what it is. I was naive. But this is the engine of your business. Yeah, a large part of how we're funded. That's, I mean, it's really just a middleman

that allows you to run a money. No, absolutely not. They did not understand it. Did they run? They ever explain?

No.

“No, they cited, I think it was for bullying or something like that.”

Only. And I think they might have selected a video that they could easily argue was the case in their eyes in such a way that their terms of services written. But no, we were to platform to basically overnight

from Patreon. But you'd done controversial videos or videos that could be seen as controversial before. Correct. Who said videos that could easily be seen

if that is your parameter for hate or bullying, then we've bullied every one. Give me an example. And one of the biggest bullies. We've critiqued corrupt mega pastors like Benin.

I ran up on the guy's stage and said, he's a snake oil salesman. I got tackled. Wow. We've dissected any hint that Benin.

He was a friend of Paula White. I think. Paula White. Yeah. He's an ocean scientist in the administration.

Wow. You didn't get pulled off. No. So you actually got a hassle to Benin. Like full blood.

Yeah. We interrupted his service. Whoa. I jumped on stage. Do you think like that in a synagogue

and Lakewood are curious? Yeah. We just walked in the synagogue. He didn't interrupt the camp. Yeah.

I didn't do any dramatic. So you're way tougher on the Christian preacher than you were on the earth. Yeah. You know, if you think of it like that way, not by design necessarily,

but you to be fair, absolutely. Nothing happened. No problem. What else?

“What other kind of videos might have been read as bullies?”

If I'm a bully, then we've bullied pedophiles. Pat myself on the back for that one. It's not so much bully.

It's just critique to ask critical questions to every group.

Yeah. And never Muslims, Christians, Pimps, prostitutes, criminal gangsters, murderers. Who ever took her? Everyone.

And did Patron have access to premises, white supremacists? No. No issue on page. What's interesting is it used to be not that long ago back in George Floyd times.

George Floyd. We had a video on George Floyd. Oh, did you literally? Yeah. Yeah.

But there was a period where you couldn't say anything about classical matter. Yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. I grew up in those times. Yeah. So that's gone. Apparently doesn't matter.

I guess. Yeah. This is the new BLM. This is the new meta. Yeah.

The new untouchable group is seemingly... It seems to be Jews at large. Unrelated to how they feel about Israel. And, you know, what's going on in the Middle East. And just that's an untouchable group.

“Are you familiar with the proposed, what anti-Semitism protection laws in Florida?”

I'm not a lawyer. I don't have a encyclopedic breakdown of what it is.

But basically, laws that are designed in such a manner that if you criticize,

basically exactly what I found in curious show well, that that would be criminal. Criminal. I think so. That if you accuse Jewish person of having dual loyalty,

or them causing problems in the Middle East, or whatever it is, there's like 12 different bullet points. That's a mendurability to freely discuss what's going on in the Middle East, or here in the United States of America. Which is funny to me because there are, in fact, people who do have dual loyalty to that.

And you're not allowed to tell Americans what they have to believe. Period. I think so. And if you back up your demand with guns using our government, to prevent us from saying what we think is true, then that's grounds for.

I would agree. But who's going to-- For a revolution. We had a revolution or something smart in that. You know, so.

Yeah, but who's going to go out with guns and fight back at this point? You have the surveillance state. You're going to get arrested immediately. Like it's revolution really. If they can make people take the vaccine.

Probably they can do it. We failed the compliance. Oh, you're right. We're right. No, it's, it's right.

It's just that you would think, um, that people would hold on to their core freedom, which is the right to say what you think is true. Period. You would think a lot of things, Tucker.

No, I know. So. Patreon. Yeah, that's crazy. You lost us.

You lost an advertiser. And overnight. Yeah. And that money. The amount of money that was allocated for me to receive it.

I think on a monthly basis, just disappeared. Refunded to my supporters. Seriously. Yeah, but luckily, you know, we're big enough to where we took it like a champ. But it is one of these.

Fuck them basically. Yeah. We made our own website. You know, we fully host that. And then I got banned from the website servers.

Not once. But twice. What? Yeah. I couldn't host my website.

Um, for what was its hate speech for something along those lines. Seriously. Seriously. Yeah. Because of those videos.

Uh, I guess. I mean, there's no specification as to which video just generally. Um, I'm a propagator of hate speech. The web host. That's just the web host.

Whoever owns the server. Exactly. Just the servers. So Hertzner and Volter took me off. Yeah.

That's crazy. Right.

It's just something you never would have thought of.

Did you think about it at a time? No. Absolutely not.

“That's why I made the website in the first place.”

It's like, I'll just make my own. Are you? And then we got taken off the hosting. Yeah. Did they explain it?

Yeah. They said they cited like banning circumvention. As basically, I circumvented a previous ban from another platform. Which in this case would be Patreon. I guess.

And then for hate speech or something along those lines. How long did this take to happen? Uh, I think maybe I'll ask it a week for the first one. Maybe a week again. Maybe a week now.

So immediately. Pretty quickly. Oh, oh. Patreon within 24 hours from what I remember. And then about a week on one website.

And then about another week. One week on one website. Server and then another. And there's no appeal. And there's no appeal or argument or anything.

We're kicking you off. You're out of here, buddy. Did you ever hear from them again? Did they reinstate you? Nobody?

No. If reinstate it by none. It's a joke. Yeah. So what does she do?

I mean, I have a new web host server right now. But, um, are you worried about YouTube? Um, I feel as if YouTube's doing an okay job. They're certainly not operating, right? They're letting us have this conversation.

Yes. These videos have nine million views almost to me. That's, um, I got to give them kudos. I say like, I spend many years attacking YouTube and maybe I will again. Yeah.

But I got fired almost exactly three years ago. Yeah. And YouTube has been a stalwart partner. Yeah.

Never thought I would say that I wouldn't lie about it.

It's all like I'm in. I don't know the money. Sure. I could exist without them.

“But I just have to be, I think you're in the same position.”

I would say largely I could not exist without them. But they've treated me with, uh, fairness. So that's kind of shocking. It is. I know.

You get to the point where you sit in your complimenting Google. I know. I know. They're limited free speech. It's not that bad, right?

No, but we should be grateful for our blessings. Yeah. And so far YouTube has been a blessing. I can't believe I'm saying that. I know.

It's just a fact. I don't know what to say. I feel like a sellout. But it's just true. Um, so wow.

So we didn't in the end. You replaced the income. Yeah. Yeah. How do you do that?

Uh, people will just rally behind the cause of. Why would you not allow this guy to do that? I couldn't. I could, I feel like sending you money. But I mean, how do you do that?

So Patreon is the dominant. Sure. Oh, this correct. I use AI's. It's a code and new website.

And then we hosted it on a web host server, right? You made your own. It's made my own. Yeah.

“Like the next day, like two in the morning.”

Yeah. I was just clapping away on. No way. I swear. Yeah.

That's the story. Yeah. I don't think it's real. The prettiest websites. Yeah.

We built a Patreon clone, basically. Yeah. In 24 hours. Uh, no, cut maybe a couple days. A couple days.

That's incredible. And actually, I guess for that much, at least. Yeah. It works. Yeah.

Like processingly, it's not that sophisticated to host a video. Like, no, I guess that's true. Yeah. Right. It's not a complicated product.

So you have survived. We've survived. Yeah. What are the lessons you're drawing from this? Um, seemingly, there are a lot of powerful Jewish people who own significant media enterprises,

websites that seem to bend the knee, at least to what they view to be anti-Semitic dialogue. What's interesting, though, is I don't know a lot about it. I'll just be totally blunt. Yeah.

I've always liked the orthodox, just on principle, because, yeah.

Yeah. And I loved him during COVID, because they wouldn't stop their weddings. Yeah. Yeah. They threw middle finger.

I didn't love that. I was constantly from my heart, complimenting the...

“I think they're great if they did it on their own diet.”

That's totally agree. I didn't even know if they were eating this. I mean, the nice people. If I wasn't there with the camera asking critical questions, they're nice enough. What's interesting is, every time I've ever, um, complimented the orthodox, and I like their style.

Yeah. Like the anger hat. I like all that stuff. Yeah. And the guard is badass.

The people who've pushed back against me are, or secular Jews. Like there's always been, in Israel, as noted, there's terrible tension. Yeah. But here also, um, I've had a lot of friends who are basically secular Jewish express real hostility toward the orthodox.

And what respect? You know, they don't like them. I mean, I've just noticed that my whole life, just having a lot of secular Jewish friends. Whenever I'm like, I was in Burl Park, Brooklyn once. Yeah.

And I came for a story, years ago, 30 years, and I came back to my newsroom. And I was like, I like those guys. And they were all the people I know who are secular Jews. And I was like, they're disgusting. They're horrible.

Like there was tension between those two groups.

That's what I've always noticed.

I'm hardly an expert. I'm an Episcopalian. But I've just, I've seen this. Yeah. Well, it's fascinating.

It's kind of weird that it's that despite their internal differences, they do show up for each other. It seems like apparently. Um, I think so. Because I had a lot of secular Jews frustrated and pissed off.

That would be really. Yeah. Uh, the Israelis kind of loved it though. It seems like. Um, they're like, thank you for calling this out.

We have the same thing here in Israel. Well, and list. Yeah. Whatever you think about the Israelis, I've known a bunch of them. I liked personally.

But they have fewer hangups about this kind of stuff. Yeah, they're much more dramatic. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

They're straightforward people. So what is this going to change how you progress? Hell no. No, I mean, this is the most radioactive thing we could have done at this point. No bars held.

Well, I mean, we'll continue to to critically show up with the same critical lens. We would any other group, right? Did it affect any friendships? No. Not that I'm worth.

Okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah. That's a true loss.

Yeah. If that happens to you, that's a real loss. That would be sad. But ultimately, I would see that as their loss because come on.

To the same standards. That's exactly right. Right. Right. Start friendship then.

Come on. Get out of here.

I agree. I agree with that.

“Do you worry that if this can happen to you?”

I didn't realize this stuff was still happening. Yeah. I thought Trump was funny, right? It's all this stuff. Yeah.

I thought this was like a relic of the Biden years. But sure. Oh, even an example. There's a guy who made a similar video. Almost a brand new channel.

Maybe like 2000 subscribers on YouTube. A very small channel in, you know, YouTube metrics. He put out a video there in Lakewood about a week or two before. I think we finished ours. And he got dogpiled by the orthodox Jewish community.

They mass disliked it. And ultimately algorithmically killed the video. They aborted the video before its inception. So to speak.

It never got to take off.

So my takeaway was if we were not the size we were on YouTube. I don't think we could comfortably even talk about a lot of these things. We have the track record for treating everyone equally in my opinion. We have the size to sort of bully this into conversation was was my takeaway. Interesting.

Yeah. For people who don't know what you mean about dogpiling a video out of existence. Can you just explain the mechanics? Yeah. I mean, this is somewhat speculative on my end.

“But I think there's data out there that suggests that when a video from the get go is mass”

disliked. For instance, if you had 10,000 people click this video, dislike it and watch it for one second. The algorithm would disincentivize the proliferation of this video to new viewers. So you have a guy with 100 subscribers who puts out a video. It's at a critical of a group like let's say the orthodox Jews and it gets 10,000 dislikes.

And they watch it for five seconds and leave a negative comments. YouTube is going to see that as this video does not resonate with the initial sample size. And we will not continue to share this video. So this video will never get any traction because of that initial abortion of the video. So to speak.

But you've reached a scale where that doesn't does not work anymore.

Yeah. Has it hurt your business? Yes. I think so. Yeah.

Sponsors won't touch topics like that. We've had sponsors even asked to pull out sponsorships from videos we filmed three years ago that have nothing to do with these topics. We filmed a video in a cancer belt in Louisiana about companies like what's an example. Some of these pesticide companies.

Yeah. Man, there's the big one. I'm not saying so. I think yeah. In Louisiana a bunch of people getting cancer way earlier than they should.

Due to their exposure to these toxic chemicals. Videos totally unrelated to this orthodox Jewish topic. They've asked to get pulled out from those videos. So I've cut them out of the videos on YouTube. Retroactively.

Three-year-old videos. I guess the frustration of what this video represents, I don't know. There's no clarity beyond, you know, take this out. We have a legal class that allows us to. You said you grew up during George Floyd obviously did your 26.

Yeah. So that was six years ago. Yeah. So you were just busy dropping out of college at that point. Yeah.

I was actually an Austin when the riots happened. And people were throwing Molotov cocktails through some bars downtown. I was watching the chaos unfold in downtown Austin. People were blowing up cars. I was like, what the hell's going on here?

And I was pretty politically illiterate back then. I would argue I still am now. And I even fully understand what was happening. I was like, why is Austin writing? What does this have to do with Austin taxes?

Why is everyone still doing this? I still don't know. I still don't know.

“I was like, wait, why do they get the past to blow up a car?”

And why are the cops watching it happen? What does Austin have to do with Minneapolis, right? It just didn't make any sense. And when that happened, this was also during the COVID nonsense. The lockdown restrictions, all that fun stuff.

And I was like, screw this. I'm going back to Medesto. I was like, I'm out of here. I broke the lease prematurely and just laughed. I was like, I'm not dealing with this.

Yeah. You're just in. So if you're 26, I mean, you're whole like adult life has been like me too. George Floyd. What?

What? It's been one witch I witch hunt after another. It's just been pure identity politics from the minute you left high school. Yeah, there is no world that I can recall without this identity politics, right? There is no non tribal politics that I. But you belong to the only group that's not allowed to have a tribe.

So there must be very strange for you. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what to make of it.

I think I don't know. I can't conceive of a world where this was not the case. And I imagine you grew up in a time where most people looked the same for the most part. Yeah. They worship the same God they did and what?

They wanted what was best for the economy. Like they wanted national security and I'm a thriving economy. And I think because it was overwhelmingly overwhelmingly weighting Christian,

the Christian whites really went out of their way to make non Christian whites feel comfortable. Yeah. That was like if that was a huge emphasis. You know, there are some people who aren't like us and we need to do whatever we can to deemphasize the differences and to make them feel included.

That whole world view I think is dying as the group that did it becomes a minority. But there was no sense in which discrimination was acceptable at all, even in private. You didn't ever say damn those Jews or damn those blacks.

Like I never heard one person talk like that ever.

And now that's pretty mainstream. Now they're like people say I don't believe you're lying. I don't care what you think. I was there. And I never talked that way ever.

He has a kid. Maybe the earliest I can remember it. Maybe an elementary school. Like they're truly might have been a color blind element to life, right? And then beyond high school for me though, everything's been this identity politics.

How do you think this ends? Balkanization of America for sure, right? We're already seeing it. If you can afford to, you'll insulate yourself from like crime written in our cities and it's why you're in Boseman or wherever.

“You know, that's why both have been all of a sudden short in value, right?”

Absolutely, if you have the money, you'll leave these areas that are becoming crime written

shit holes. And if you don't, you'll be left behind as seemingly these activists judges release the same repeat offenders. These murderous people who are, I guess, two mentally insane to be institutionalized, but mentally sane enough to be let back on the streets. Well, you can see why the, there are probably whites who are getting a little paranoid.

If you're the only non-protected group in every other group. Yeah, things as a group except you were not allowed to think as a group. And a lot of groups hate you, but there's no one to defend you. Then, I mean, you can see why Elon Musk recently tweeted, we're moving towards South Africa and the whites have screwed. You can see what's written analogy, right?

Do people go that way? Do people go that way to a whole city like Jackson, Mississippi. Yeah. I spent a summer in Jackson. I'm the lady.

I'm the lady. Okay, and the lady in a black neighborhood. Yeah, and it was great. And the black people were super nice. And there was no crime aimed at me.

“I think things have, that's kind of the point at me.”

Yeah, I can't remember that world. I was in Jackson, Mississippi in the summer of 1989. In a black neighborhood for three weeks. And I went to the 7/11 at night to buy cigarettes and call my girlfriend on the payphone. Yeah.

And now one person bothered me. And I was the only payler face in the zip code. So like, that did exist. I was there. Yeah.

Yeah, I think you'd be unwise to show up to Detroit or Philadelphia or Jackson, Mississippi. And when gets rich to soccer, there's a lot of people make it a red, blue state issue. No, I mean, there are some fucked up cities all across America. That deal with the same issues. No, no.

And it's not on the lines of red or blue, Democrat Republican. It exists all over. So I don't know. I think if you, the drink, the American dream right now is seemingly to make enough money to insulate yourself from the chaos unfolding in major cities.

To get out of the major city, to go buy a nice house in the suburbs and to be left alone. That seems to be the modern American dream. And for a lot of people coming to the US, it seems to be the make as much money as possible. Send as much as you can back home. And then show up to a mega mansion in Bangalore, India after you're done exploiting the United States.

“That's what it seems like the dream is for a lot of these people coming here.”

So yeah. So that leaves one group totally unprotected. Seemingly white people, right? Yeah, by every measure. So I have noticed just in the night.

Of course, I don't know what's coming, but I've noticed. Concern bordering on paranoia among people I've been talking to. Pretty moderate normal, you know, bush, Romney, McCain, now Trump voters. Just Republicans not, you know, nothing crazy. Not a white supremacist among them at all.

It's like normal whites who are like, I think we're going to get necklace at some point. I think that group's probably least likely to hold any in-group racial preference. These are not people who've ever thought of themselves as white. Right. These are not people who've, you know, they're not from Alpina, Arkansas.

No, no, these are people from like Long Beach. That's insane. There are those least likely to totally hold any, you know, whites don't stick together in their eyes, right? It's at all.

It's never a burden to them.

They've never had the need to. Right. But those people, at least I just noticed this in the past couple of months, you're like, man, we're in trouble. That's interesting. Have you heard anyone say that?

Um, I only speak to, I feel like Gen Z, you know? How do they feel? Gen Z feels hopeless, demoralized. Without opportunity, the college degree is seemingly useless. The bachelor's degree means nothing.

They have to compete with a globalized labor force.

to compete against our college graduates.

Yet Trump's out there saying, our college graduates are lazy and incompetent and not sufficient to fill these jobs despite us holding the best universities on the planet. You guys noticed when he said that? Yeah. Right.

“And that's such a slap in the face of what's the point?”

What are even voting for, right? Like, that's the question. Who represents my generation's interests? Someone will have to otherwise that energy has to be funneled somewhat. So Trump did say something like that.

I think something along those exactly. Yeah. And people in your generation heard it. They caught that. Well, yeah.

These are the same people who don't have a job several years out of college who can't get a job with their degree, who are competing with, you know, infinite H1B Indians. These guys have 20 years experience from India who are taking their job and we're using these H1Bs as a wage suppression mechanism. Why are we not paying these H1Bs?

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You know, we're not paying these H1Bs. You know, Nick Fuentes or Fuentes is only about Fuentes. But at some point, there's going to be someone who is not just about himself who actually wants to build a political movement that is way more radical in our public and party.

And that person is going to be huge among your generation. Is that a fair? Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know the political belief of, I don't know all the beliefs, you know, Fuentes has, for example.

“But I think he's right about that young men are disaffected.”

I'm not attacking Fuentes. I'm just saying like Fuentes is not only about Fuentes or whatever.

I mean, I don't know when it says, is ultimately he talks about himself.

He's not avoidable, you know, but he makes points that are true. Absolutely. A lot of them. For sure.

Uh, and you know, it's like that ring true for a non-radical or someone who is. They ring true for me. That's why everyone. Yeah, I don't agree with a lot of it. I told him I didn't.

“But in general, his critique that the whites are shafted.”

For sure. And that this is row relationship is really sick.

And that in everyone, basically, that voted for Trump is seemingly not getting in.

Got it. Got it. I agree with all of you. Yeah. So that's all real.

Yeah. My only point is people look at Fuentes. Yeah. Like, oh, you're the scariest thing that could happen. Absolutely not.

Yeah. That's my point.

I don't know where it goes, right?

Um, the energy has to go somewhere, right? This is like Newton's. Newton's. I don't know. Second law.

Third law. I don't know what's high school. The energy must be divided elsewhere. And a lot of young men are pissed off. I think for a lot of young men, though, they will just hibernate and jerk off and decay in their basements

and their parents homes. That is reality. There will be a eugenics effect. Um, white men getting litigated or filtered out of, uh, participation in society. There will be an extinction event for sure.

Um, that's inevitable, right?

But some of them might try to do something a bit more bold and revolutionary.

Maybe, but how does something like that even come into existence? Which I know with the surveillance states and, uh, Can you even, is the democracy that means by which my generation?

“Um, up lifts their quality of life is, is at a possibility.”

Because the Republicans clearly don't care. The Democrats don't care. Uh, is there a third party alternative? What does that look like? I'm not sure.

But the two current options are insufficient. You're making me emotional. That really gets up. What you're saying is true. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm like, I mean, I think of myself as a pretty reasonable guy, right? Like, I was politically illiterate in many ways. I didn't, I didn't think about this stuff. I was making goofy YouTube videos on my early 20s.

Um, from 18, 19, 20, 21. It's only 12, 22 years old. So I even realized all of this stuff was going on. I didn't even think really about, you know, the George Floyd stuff that much. Um,

But now it's unavoidable. People say, why are you making everything so political? They'll talk to their neighbors or their family members. Why is everything so political? And now it's, it's unavoidable.

“You, you have to consider the reality in the consequences of how your everyday life is being affected by these things.”

So unfortunately, everyday people have a political opinion on everything right now. And I think that's, that's a, a tragedy more than a. Haha, it's down a win. No, it's down a win at all. Um,

Well, I'm subscribing to you. So thank you. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah. I really, thank you for spending all this time.

Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate you. For sure.