Episode 5 : Antonio Cesaro

that I have known on the job in advance and can be tried to have an intellectual conversation, maybe with this evil debate leaving obviously myself and hopefully the listener more educated at the end of the episode. So today, really happy to have on a great friend and a fantastic student of mine

“I think he's an exceptional talent. He's wise above his years when it comes to his maturity”

and yeah, really happy to have him as part of my friendship group and also look at him like a little brother so without further ado and Tonya Cesaro I would like you to introduce yourself a little bit How you going? Thanks for having me Yeah, what are you want me to say like I'm just just tell us a little bit about yourself quickly like age what you do What's what what are your hobbies? I'm who are that? Yeah, well, I'm 22 and

I've only got one hobby which is really fighting don't really enjoy anything else but I work But other than I don't really like it. You work so that you can fight right? You don't work because you love it

No, but you love to fight. Yeah, I love that and like the second you're not

Go match up locked in you're like breaking my balls. You're a match up all the time right? You're very keen You're a gym rat. You're staying the gym a lot as well as say make yourself your one of those I spoke about I don't know if you listen to the episode just my tips is for developing and coming fighters Yeah, and I really mentioned about like happy and staying in the gym outside camp is really important because in camp You know now you've had 10 fights like you might pick up on one or two things

But you generally like specifically training for that person, right? Yeah, and also I guess getting fit Yeah, so you the camps about like sharpening the tools you've got for your opponent getting your conditioning and you fitness right getting your weight right Yeah, you know when we learn 10 new techniques in the period of time

“So I think that's what this is where the learning periods happen. Yeah outside the camp and you want your”

Some of those really good at staying in the gym and dedicating yourself to it So yeah anyway without further ado, let's go topic number one This could other turn into a debate or it might we might agree on the same thing. Yep, but I was wondering in MMA What's your Mount Rushmore fighters, but like fighters that haven't retired yet so current yeah fighters

I would say don't we wait include John Jones so then we got an extra spot. Okay, so oh If John Jones was included, I still wouldn't include him because of his drunk like he's just there I mean they're just quite funny when he's ever tested top positive from my wrist. I'm gonna say that John Jones is probably the most talented MMA fighter of all time Just he's been popped for steroids. He's been done for

“You know other incidents that kind of tarnish his reputation. So take John Jones out of the table top four”

Mount Rushmore current MMA fighters. They're not in any specific order. No, yeah So Islamicative obviously he is a two division weight champ He's lost one fighter, you know heat bits since then other than that small portion around five against Volk

He's never been finished since. Yeah, he's obviously gone through some wars. He's fought all the best guys

So yeah, I can't build a Mount Rushmore without putting Islam on there Next I would say There's a tough one come if I look I'm gonna put my rabbit on there even though he just lost on the weekend Yeah, just even think about my rabbit just purely for the fact that how active he is as a champion Like if you look at all the other champions how many times did they fight this year? Yeah, he's fought he fought four times

It was a four year four times and he's already talking about fighting in early next year But he obviously wants a rematch with purely yarn. I'd love to see it because yarn's performance On this last fight was spectacular. We have seen young in rematches not do as well. I'll see the Arjo fight was a good example

When he kind of dominated the Arjo in that first fight

Wasn't completely really even that competitive he got the need then the next fight How do I kind of dominate him? It was a young one and approved too much of a point and like just doing like not high fight Like huge stuff and so I'm gonna put my rabbit in there just because of his activity obviously he was on a large wind streak up until the other weekend But losing the pure pure yarn who's you know a fantastic fighter and his own right is very well rounded and

The ladies cardier hold up is no chain will see if my rabbit can bounce back and get get a win again Because if he can if comes I can beat yarn you know wins the trilogy because at some point unless Something dramatic happens. There's going to be a trilogy because they're one and one and they're both kind of like One almost every round in the fight or I thought Mirab could have stolen the round in this

Yeah, so that's a number two Mirab do I wish really then I'm gonna go with number three

“Probably Humbs up. Humbs up. Well, yeah, I'm thinking like he's”

Unbeaten. Yeah, he's won fights at world away and the obviously something they can both wait again

about me the way he's basically looked

Unstoppable middle way other against Osmond. I'm sure know this potentially an Osmond to his own riders Isn't like you know, he's he's up there is him and GSP are like their debate of who's the greatest world away the whole time in my opinion So Humbs-ups just comes out and like destroy drake us and we're seeing drake us obviously look pretty good Yeah, we've seen him Grand through Robert Wittico like no one in grappling wives ever done before they can't rob it really been

Finish that quickly was when he fought drake us kind of caught him with that weird drake style or attack and knock him out I was crazy how he just did that to rob it. It no one does that to Wittico Especially like because takedown defenses generally on song pretty very scrambling is really good. Yeah, he looked like a fish out of water against And so Humbs-ups got some cuz he's undefeated cuz his a champion the only knock on him obviously is there. He's he's not currently been active enough The fourth spots are really tough. I'm tossing up between two

“But I think on the fact that they've been in the sport so short amount of time. What they've achieved. I'm going to go out”

It's prayer Yeah It's obviously championed in life away from the middle way champ He's only been doing him away for like in the USA for three years or something. Yeah, that that their accomplishments They he's made in the pit the time period. He's done

He's pretty phenomenal. He's obviously a Great kickbox ring his own right, but you know he's got wins over it is he he's got wins over Sean Strickland He's got wins over then he goes up to you know wins the lihyro toes of things over Jamal Hill and Europe Eury you hear some lost that anyone in nine years except for our area. I don't know. Yeah, I'm young

Yeah, I'm the coach and to live and come I have like obviously lost the first one

But then come back and absolutely put a stamp on the same one with that knockout So the other person I was tossing up would be a lihyro tutorial. Yeah, so in the reason I didn't put I lihyro deporia in there over the other guys is Inactivity a little bit of racing. He's got some good wins like the win of Volk was a good win But that being said Volk was on a short turnaround from being knocked out already

Not saying that that changes the result, but obviously it does give you a small question mark of hey What's Volk's chin still compromised? We mean knocked out by his alarm on that short notice by Obviously it didn't knock out max, which is something we don't see happen

“But I believe that max going up to lightweight and actually looking like on lightweight winning for Justin Gachie”

Yeah, and then going back down the cup took a lot out of max Max has also had a lot of fights. He's for some time here. Yeah, so earlier finished him So and if Iliya can at least defend the lightweight title sometime soon and and you know I'm I'm going to be upset that they're doing their patty pin bullet and Justin Gachie in trim title I understand what you think is not fighting now that all the stuff for these whites come out that they give a separation

It's hard, so even a little bit more sympathy at first I thought it was just being a bit of a diva like hey

I want to fight Islam I'm going to go up and fight Islam. You know like you haven't even defended the lightweight title shot Yeah, he's done a call So be yeah, if Iliya can defend the lightweight title and if him in Islam have a super fight whether it's that If it's a world winner think it's a terrible idea for Iliya. He'll be too small. I feel like if he if he Does go up he has to be

He has to be so rookie and to get that that that astrix off of his name and if he beats a rookie and done with a fashion Yeah, we saw so rookie and push Islam to the limits now. He's I'm striking didn't prove to a lot since then Yeah, but so's almonds so if he walks through your arm and so rookie and then then he start being the all maybe Him in his time is a really interesting fight. Yeah, otherwise like if I don't see if I'm getting back to 155 now I don't think you'll go down again. He's too thick. He's too big

And so doing where we get that fight is is Iliya goes out obviously. He looked way better at what to wait to Islam off look for normal life to do that to JDM who obviously was it was pretty sad as well Yeah, being Australian's being paying for its and JDM He's a really nice guy. I don't know if you had you spoke to a member in person a few times No, I got to start struck

He's a good bloke. I wouldn't want to be locked in the cage with him because he's like he's obviously But he brutal and mean in there, but as a as a person, he managed rather Joshua Seems like a legend. Yeah, really good people. So yeah, no, no one's done that to Jack even when Gilbert was beating him Jack was still having some success. Yeah, he was like totally washed the arrogance

He looked like him when I'd be in there anymore. Yeah, I don't know whether that was from frustration or when he

Was got hurt. Yeah, it was he was carrying injuries If I don't give it's because they talk about how Jack's such a highlight like level grappler and If he's that good and like you think you're so good and then you still can't do anything I felt like that probably mess with your head. Yeah, because it's like fuck Islam is just too good You know, I can't do anything against this guy. Yeah, like the only one thing that you'll say is he was able to stuff the submissions

Obviously he's done a lot of work with Craig He used Craig's to ask defense really well against Islam Because I was trying to cinch it up a couple times, but he couldn't get back up. Yeah, I think he can get back up once Yeah, I don't remember if he can get back up. Yeah, every time his arm took him down He didn't get back up. Yeah, I thought well if he did it was very short and read re-grounded and I don't think he stuff ate take them

Fuck now. Yeah, it was it went too fast for me to remember. Yeah, but so that's that's my mine I'd love to hear you. It's give us a why I'm wrong. I think you're wrong. I think mine's just different because of like the accomplishments people made So I'll go Islam too. Yeah, just because of what he's done in the lightweight like he defended the belt Three times all the four times four of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul. Yeah, Volkswagen twice and he won it off Charles More calm. Yeah, but I kind of was a rough answer. Sure, no, I think there was one more wasn't there. He has the most lightweight type of defense this day

“Okay, so that and then it then he goes up and wins. Yeah, so that's why I would go”

Islam as well. Yep Second I would like I know he's had a bit of a rough street lately, but I'd say it was been just because of like the accomplishments he made

Because he he won the belt and then I also never used to like it was because he's thinking to boring

Yeah, but then I swear once he became a champion. He was finishing everybody. Yeah Early on it was kind of like he just was wanting to win rest all. Yeah, pay positions. I remember the whole I remember who it was that he beat when he said that was 30%, 30% and Dana said we'll maybe we were exciting And he'd give more than 30% maybe we would leave something now It was this was like when he was like early. I think it was OK. Maybe when he beat he beat someone 3027

He actually was took him down to the minimal ground and pound down and whatnot. Not bad enough to keep on the ground And then obviously yeah, once he became a champion, he started finishing people finishing everybody I guess that means for that one and then the Gilbert burns when we're in drops in with the judge Yeah, after Gilbert hurting him. Yeah, and the match for that one was a big one as well

Because like massive. I was gonna grant it to you. Yeah, he'd never we never like he'd be in Tico once in this career

We never even slept like that. No, never so then those two and then I'd probably put bulk Yep, no, too. Okay, so there is more of it. I'm with current UFC fighters I guess I'll wait on their current status of where they're adding their career Not so much they're overall career. Yeah, and so I've done my life my four with earlier with our tricks next to it As where they're standing currently. If I looked at their whole career

I definitely would agree that Vulkan Usman would come on there over guys like even I probably would keep his arm in prayer on there I don't like you. I'm gonna struggle to find a spot for the other guys It's because of like yeah guys like Usman hand or so you don't just retire, but even so who though? Yeah, like two division champ fans those times. That's true any gold battles. It didn't become a list

“But that's not to be able to know so but that's how I'm writing. I've got to include that in because that's what I was going to go”

Parara next because it's hard because I think to pour it too because I just what he's doing Yeah, and he's undefeated but I guess I'd have to go parara because He won he's the only person to win two belts in glory and also two belts You remember in MMA even you're saying as well the biggest organization. So it's like nobody's ever done anything like that before Yeah, no, I totally agree like he's a congressman speak for itself. Yeah, so oh, yeah

That's who I would are tags. I was I wanted to pour you and you've got one more. No, I said Oh Islam Usman Perrar and Volk my vodka. That's right. Yeah, okay, but yeah, it's very hard But you're picking four fighters. Yeah, to be on the market marquee of like who the best ever I the kind who's still fighting because obviously then there's the whole conversation of

Are you breaking away there now in their career? Yeah, they're whole career part as a whole I agree with you. What you're saying if it's the other way around to where they are now? Yeah

“Where they're shooting because like oh that's what I was like not like or comes out. I don't know”

But at the moment. Yeah, you're right. He's undefeated and he's smashing everybody Yeah, and here's good wins, but like yeah, if I I would take him out for some of like Osborne for sure Or at involved or Volk because if you're looking at their whole career because Hamdan has an obviously done

Yeah, excellent a really good discussion. Oh, this is something obviously I love that my original idea when I thought doing a podcast It's just doing the Mount Rush for a podcast every week. Yeah, I was kind of getting a different topic and give my man Rush for so I did the Mafia one like just because it was a hobby

“I thought about doing a MMA one. Yeah, and I was like how the hell do you pick four MMA guys?”

Ever two on the Mount Rush for yeah, it's obviously possible. There's just too many guys the name So then you can look at iris because you can't judge like post-gracey and Mark Coleman and dance ever and don't fry in that against the current fight. Yeah, it's a skill level so different the games change So you could look at like iris because even guys who were like dominant

Five six years ago their skill sets if they are now still fighting has had to evolve tremendously Otherwise they've dropped right off. Yeah, so you know then you go to the next generation It's kind of like your GSP isn't your Anderson Silver's and stuff. Yeah, I think both their styles now in their prime probably hold it up Yeah, like GSP's that like such a smart fighter

Obviously he could wrestle he could strike he could but I always wondered how Anderson Silver would go again

Someone like comes up. Yeah, that's that's a really interesting one because we you know You would look at it and go and since takedown defense was Okay, it was pretty good for the what like child ragdoll even that first file Come back with the triangle. I don't think he's gonna be submitting hums out off his back He does a good Jiu-Jiu-Jiu-Jiu-Jiu, or he could have caught hums out with a knee or something and going

You guys shot him on him but hums out probably would have come in with the the approach like Kevin Holland We're basically just charged that him straight away Go his hands on him and then he could have done that for five right out. Basically. We're dead to Drake again Yeah, the Anderson wasn't like Super

Star off of his back. He was very good guard because of his long limbs But he wasn't like yeah, Super Star there. So that's an interesting one, but he overall he probably still be a a decent middleweight now. Yeah, and then you look at the obviously the car in the room and then you've got these guys Yeah, that has just been training MMA since like they were young Like you know you kind of started training MMA at one age

I think I was like it was just before I was about to turn 17 so I was like 16 but basically So you hadn't quite even like you look you know even the dog yet where there's like some of the other guys that I spoke about in the past They even on myself and my kind of stuff. We there wasn't a MMA Like we we didn't I didn't start training every way until I was like 22 so you've had 10 fights at 20 So I was starting training for everybody. Oh, yeah, so you can't rank so yeah

That's a really interesting topic of conversation and there's always a bit of a debate of a who will beat who?

Yeah, I can't believe that you didn't mention the Bronx What I was gonna also say you kind of include the Bronx and the thing but like John Jones, but I forgot about it

“Yeah, I think you he did it is is into club last night too. Yeah, I thought that's what um the second question”

Yep, it was just like a kind of like a three-part question. Yeah, because we both love food. We do And you've been all over the world what's what country has the best food? That you've been to what's the best meal you've ever had and what's the worst meal you've ever had? Oh, all right Best food like as in then that country's native cultures food

Yeah, yeah, and then like whatever like food. Yeah, you can commonly just go. Oh, this is this is good. Yeah, obviously We spoke about it for that. I'm a big fan of like on the Asian foods and Mexican food. Yeah, so I've been to Japan wasn't there for a long because of Other travels and stuff, but that you know great great food there Obviously the ram and you just come back from Japan recently. Yeah, you can get a really good meal from the seventh and eleven there

So they have we don't get dinner for like 9.50. It's ridiculous Ridiculous rise cheap abs Mexico like when I've gone on being Mexico certain places Like

Like the way that they did their They're food they're nachos they're burritos they're tacos

But then the fresh fishes and stuff they get out of there because they've got the second biggest barrier reef in the world after hours

And yeah, that it's highly protected there because the massive tourism spot so all the fish and all the animals that they get from around there actually like Very clean day, so we we do a tour

“What do you say you have to be careful where you eat those sometimes you can get really sick? Yeah, so”

Oh, I was this was in costumaser which is kind of a little bit lower down on the coast of Mexico on the side of like Florida as border and all the other side We did we we did a tour where I can't remember what oh, yeah, we we did we did like a

to a certain area and we'd like a hike and then the end of the tour they take it to like a

“Drone the beach have a traditional like Mexican meal. Yeah, and that was pretty spectacular”

I've been to Tijuana and which is on the border of like California and America a lot of College guys kids in that go there because you can drink a 18 in Mexico 21 in the U.S. Oh, yeah So they go there a lot of them who live close to Canada if their high will go your Canada for like school break And that so they can drink and have fun or the other people go down like to Mexico Especially if you can come 400 like from San Diego, it was like an hour drive to get to Tijuana

Yeah, but when we went there number one it was like one of the cds places of everything. Yeah, yeah Like it's very heavily controlled by like the cartels There's like 5,000 murders a year there or something like that. It's a big time freaky Yeah, and you know like they take that the tour guide said look if you're gonna eat any food here Because we just went for a day tour just to have a look this was like in 2001

“But it said don't eat anything that is from home with jacks and McDonalds are like how to say yeah, because he's like you'll probably get”

It's very similar to the barley belly that we a lot of Aussies know like Mexican belly where you're not used to like their The food being like street food basically they're like just sitting in like a little thing with a little barbecue going with like skewers and stuff on it Yeah, but they don't really like have the best refrigeration system or the the the best hygiene system that comes to it So that Mexico when I had that authentic and like kind of like a high class beat theory that was definitely up there

Yeah, and then I love Mexican food too

I feel like if I actually had Mexican food over there. I love it so much. Yeah, it's my favorite. It's it's great like the the guac was amazing

The I was really surprised I would there see food and stuff for us Generally, but I get Mexican I get like a breato bowl or a breato chicken or beef. Yeah, well, as they had like some really good fish and stuff that Don't give it wrong. There was some other stuff like chicken the rice and the way they do their beans and rice and stuff over there is really good So Mexico is it's great for food and then I reckon

Like it's I don't been there Vietnamese is like on my face, but I don't know I haven't been there so I haven't eaten in Vietnam I'll say the worst place to get food is definitely the US Well Everything so unless you like seek out places

They're really good, but I have them actually so I will say I had the best pizza ever had in Brooklyn. Yeah. So we we either think of the Brooklyn pizza tour in 2022 and they just take you to the to my famous best pizza rears in New York and We're one of them is like a without even pizza. Yeah, and if they only do margarita

Oh, you can put like other like flavour them. They put meat and stuff on the traditional Italian and then And that was the best one you've ever had no meat. Yeah, they yeah, but that was excellent I feel like how could it get me better so then we go like another place called Grimaldis then they knew the square pizzas Yeah, Sicilian style and that was same 20 Margarita yeah, but absolutely sensational so that they're probably like the yeah Grimaldis

I think it was Grimaldis that was the the second one they had the square pizzas

Mexico and like a private pizza location of for costumaya and obviously most places in Japan You can get really good food easy. Yeah, so

“The worst thing I've ever eaten is in taste wise. Yeah, I would have a yeah taste wise or if I made”

you feel sick or I've eaten some interesting stuff. Yeah, when I was in Canada I did like we went to a a game restaurant so they sell game meat so they had like I had like Caribou and I had rattle snake They that they were gonna give me kangaroo on my mate. I'm from Australia. Please can you do something with using kangaroo? I like a bit of Venice and on a elk and I think it was that's buffalo or whatever

It was you know that snake wasn't great but safe from the worst food. I'll take tasted that I definitely Don't have a game would be escalo like snails. Oh garlic snails is a French delicacy

Yeah, I'm not eating bugs or anything like that before. Yeah, so snails is it's all basically you eat it

and still at the shell of a crunchy as hell and it's just an overwhelming power of garlic because that's what they cook in like the the broth and then it's like no, it's not a good even the nice texture. Yeah, like it's like a slimy thing like if you if you get a muscle or an oyster and you just like chew it Fages rather than just like you have like an oyster little Patrick. Yeah, bang it down. Yeah, if you just chew on that Fages and yeah, so that's probably the the meal that I disagree. I didn't I definitely don't need to do again

We bullied Luke in the eating it. No, I think that he was gonna hate it. But he ate it. So yeah, that would mind but make yourself

Well, okay, I don't even I should have thought about what my least like the grossest thing I've ever eaten is I have to think about that one, but my favorite obviously I've only been to one country, which is Japan Yeah, and the food's really good over there, but I've tried heaps of good foods over here too So I'd probably just say Australia because buddy, I've had heaps of good foods here. I think it would be a sport for food in South Australia We have like a really diverse like culture where you can get good Japanese you can get like a bad ramen place to

“Took me to a northern. That's what I was gonna say. That's probably my favorite”

I it's crazy because I went to Japan hunting to find the best ramen because there's one In Nord called Kazumi ramen That's like my favorite and I still couldn't find one that beat the Kazumi ramen so the Kazumi ramen in northern is number one There's your nation's bugs here. Yeah, I should outside the fire camp one ramen bomb I'll put on one kilos every week

It was a cold because every time I go to go there cuz if you ramen that put on one And then oh that's probably not my favorite my favorite meal of all time is probably my nanos Pass a sauce like you should have like a bone-raise sauce. Yeah, well nice sauce doesn't my family like sauce on my dad's son I just used to have a heat when I was a kid and then I didn't have it for ages and I had it for the first time A couple years ago and I just brought back so many missions. It's just the best so do you give me a meal?

Do you get your favorite meal um for tasted also for like the nostalgia of having like well great memories

Not really the memories just when I was a kid that was always my favorite

Yeah, and then I didn't have it for ages and then I was like always wanted it and then Like like It's just still just as good. It's just as in this spot. Yeah, it's just I love it. I mean my family Not like adventure as diners so much so like we don't and You know like

Our heritage like thanks back to like places that don't aren't exactly knowing for their food But as obviously like having the Italian background very well known for past them pizza well not so yeah, that has that cow's own So I love a cow's own. Yeah, and yeah, so like Irish like Stu like potatoes. Yeah, nothing special. Yeah, and don't you think that Yorkshire pudding is quite good. I think people probably tell me it's not but I love it every Christmas tree

We have Yorkshire pudding without roast with our lunch and Well, you know it's kind of it's like a savory like Pastry dish that you have but it goes well with like gravy and roast and stuff Oh yeah, so it's an it's a trip or a trip from Yorkshire but um so my God's mum

Move treating one during the war from Ireland and say my dad's older sister grew up a little bit in England before they moved here And so she's got the recipe to cook that but and then yeah, like my grandpa on my mum side was really fussy either

So my grandma never really liked even experimental cooking. Yeah, so mum's

My dad's not the most adventurous time either like he likes his steak He likes his like Basics like he likes a omelette. He likes like a chicken and whatnot. So yeah, but yeah, don't have any like family classics Like cooking a good barbecue. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. I mean like Same here really for me just this is that past that just hits a spot

“I've got one more question. Yeah, you got to tell me the worst the worst thing you've eaten”

Probably I can't think of one that's like that's When I was younger, but most recent When we went on the way to Japan we went to Hong Kong. Yep, and we went to this restaurant And um it looked pretty good from the outside we thought it was gonna be Pretty good. There was heaps of people in there. So uh yeah, that's for me. You could sign it must be pretty good

And then um we ordered like We all ordered our dinner and it came out and every bowl had like at least like You like the little garlic cloves you saw them all over throughout the bowl Chili everywhere like I like chili by that it was just too much the overwhelming the taste of the food Yeah, and you just have to take out all the

“You have to take out all the garlic because they're just garlic everywhere. It was too much garlic and you don't know”

But even a bite into a garlic clove. No, no, no, no, it was all in the bowl. It was at least like 20 different Right, what was the dish that you ordered? I got like it was like just beef and rice. Yeah, but like It just everything that came out. It just wasn't fresh. It just wasn't like you do it

I could leave for go about that place. All right, so that's the so the grossest thing you've eaten

“Was in Hong Kong. Oh, I guess it. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a lot of things”

I didn't actually grow so that wasn't like gross gross, but like Hong Kong's interesting mix because it has Such a mix culture with food when it comes from the up until you know like the the the war

End of over two like it was the British basically ran Hong Kong and it Hong Kong was independent

But obviously they really have the strong connection to the CCP in China. Yeah So they have that kind of influence of British and also the influence of like Chinese food plus their own cultures There's quite a weird interesting mix. Yeah, it's like a why you when you go to Hawaii Other than the fact that there's a seven eleven and then you see you walk on a straight And there'll be like a ABC store seven eleven ABC store restaurant ABC store

Coding ABC store this is the ABC store. But what is an ABC store? It's basically like a convenience store They sell like and everything from I divide a suitcase of a suitcase broke on the side back But what a suitcase they buy they sell souvenirs. They sell pharmacy staff they sell food if it's like kind of me shopping Yeah, kind of like a mini Walmart. All right, but they just have there if they literally everyone's like you

What you like look down the one straight on the beach random is like

You could look left and right and see twenty buildings and like eight of them at ABC stores. Yeah, how can they all be operating

“And a profit anyway that's on like your key, but they have a such an interesting mix of food and culture because”

They have the American influence Polynesian influence and also there's a large Japanese proportion in Hawaii as well. Yeah, so you get some really cool interesting mix of food in Hawaii as well Because you're kind of getting like the crossover of the cultures. Yeah, so that they yeah I've had some of the lights moving in Hawaii as well. Yeah, that would be awesome place to go. Yeah I thought anyone who wants to go to Hawaii like I've been to

Like the way everyone goes, which is all it's like a key It was Tahiti Tahiti is a country

I'm an idiot then um it's lowered down in the coast on the way closer to Australia Tahiti is yeah

A borer borer is probably like the famous place in Tahiti where yeah, and it's like kind of A face that a lot of people go you cost a lot of money to be there. It's like one of those So I don't know if you know about the now the lives as well Yeah, that's like a lot of the coast of like Sri Lanka that's like beautiful scenery people go there to like get away That there's not much

Many people there You know you have your own private height one you'd be able to walk through your beach and you might not see anyone else

“Like it's it like a nice and that's what that's Tahiti has borer borer for that”

But yeah, so that's them the the mainland because all the airport the main airport is in my key key So if you fly from offload from the US so from LA to Hawaii and so it's Honolulu But Hawaii here's the area and you stay there and like the pipeline north side is there where like all the surfing Chemichips are done and that's kind of around the other side of the island that's cool Pearl harbours there so obviously there's the historical stuff in the war like

Where the Japanese attack America yeah, and there's an active military base there as well Which is interesting to see like stealth bombers and stuff in those planes. I know it I think it's a F45 or what the ones that can like take up that take off very clearly They don't even run away. They're like take off. Yeah, and you saw that yeah, yeah, just not like taking photos So you can have so one side of the base looking over to the island is like where the Pearl harbours memorial stuff is

It's where the Arizona is which is what the only ship that they didn't resurface after sinking But it's still there and you can go across and it's kind of like a bit of a somber side to visit because you know all the people passed away there and that and then you can go on to The active military base side and and there's the ship there That general McCarthy got the surrender from Japan and yeah, and that was a battle ship. They were called back in the day And so that's on one way that's facing back towards the island where the starter Pearl harbours

But if you go to if you look behind you, there's an active military base so you can take photos of like the ship and Pearl harbours area and stuff But you can't take photos in the direction of the military base. Yeah, the two of our guys have he's been on there with people that like quickly snap on them Like their buses been pulled over. I've got on smash their phone up So then they take a pretty seriously said those cause cool to see that you can't you can't actually film it

Yeah, yeah, that's that so that but long story short We we went to the it's actually a short story long were the way I'm going so we're we did do a day tour of the big arm which is called a way Yeah, it's like huge compared to the others You go there there's only like 50,000 people that live on the island and probably the best cold brew coffee over the head there

Fuck, I love coffee as well cold brew coffee is one thing that like America does really well in right

They reckon we got the bed Australia's got the best coffee. I great. Oh, I normal coffee. Yeah, we have great coffee

“Like you go anywhere in the coffee's good like you can go to a cafe”

Almost anywhere in their site and you're pretty solid the coffee's going to be a lace like a solid coffee Yeah, even driving through McDonalds you can get us a decent coffee McDonalds doing good coffee Yeah, so I mean, you don't think that that so we are we are spoiled for coffee in Australia In the US their coffee like their best coffee that you find is like Starbucks and that would be like a Sheet coffee here in my opinion. Yeah, right and so you back cold brew opposite they great cold brew

Yeah in the holiday areas because no one's to drink a quite a lot of drink back coffee So like having a long black at Three in the afternoon when it's 30 degrees and 95 cents you mean do these and like the most appealing But you want that the little caffeine pick me up. So I go that the iced coffee It's on the big island you can actually experience every season if you track out and whatnot in one bag

Oh by driving different spots. So there's a part of the island. So we go into the island It's probably like 25 26 degrees young to mountains and there's ice and snow on there Yeah, but then you come down to a tropical rain forest

“There's active volcano. So we were in the worst thing over the active volcano. I've got food to let staying on that”

They actually erupted Not when I was there, but it was it is Continuously active and that's why Hawaii is well, I mean, that's how Hawaii was created It is volcano activity builds the action builds up the land. So the big island was awesome to go say I would love if I go back to Hawaii which I want to I'd like to spend more time there less time in Waikiki

I don't even think to go Waikiki again. I've been there a few times. Yeah, I'd love to get a Maui apparently It's a beautiful island. Yeah, but yeah, I have that that's kind of like it'd be it'd be nice to do I'd love to do like a cruise That stops all look like a lot of the Hawaiian islands because a lot of them you probably want to stay there for too long because It wouldn't be heaps to do. Yeah, you might spend it, but if you do a day at it, it's like you get to experience the best of the island

But then you know getting like will board all pay heat to money for flights the travel. Yeah, true That's why I've done like several cruisers through the Caribbean

“That would be cool. Yeah, because yeah, I've never been on a cruise before. Yeah, it's a it's interesting”

Depending on who you cruise with there's what type of People you get on the cruise I've done most of I've done if a piano cruise with a group of friends or young and

Was 10 of us we got like the cheapest room. Yeah, but like basically under the water. I room that we had like four bunk beds

There was 10 of us that way. No, it was just one What am I man? I saw you guys are all in front of me. Two of us we had like two rooms and then my mate and his misses got the room together Yeah, and whatnot And it was just like a party central. Yeah. Yeah, we're 19 They're so tiny 19 and 20 and all you want to do is you know, but it was just been Australian cruise

We went like to port those with some cans and it's like drinking every day Yeah, you know going to nightclub the nightclub that night doing all the party and wait nightclubs in the Caribbean Yeah, yeah, they were a couple like they've like two night or depending on the size of the ship They have a couple of nightclubs Yeah, right

I thought it was more like I thought it was more like they um just have a dinner room and then they you just have a massive dinner or something I didn't know that had all that shit like yeah, that's it and this was not on like a flagship boat I mean, it was just a piano ship, which is like it does kind of oiling piano You or and roll Caribbean though. They're the big cruise line company They got really piano. It's a carnal's like their budget cruise ship line now

They even they have they've casino on there. Yeah, they have couple plate. This is they've you don't just have one restaurant Yeah, like there's a buff a buff a as well. We can go to They have like lots of bars and stuff as well obviously pools gym all that type of stuff But all more more recent cruises. I've gone on with being a Disney cruise lines because Family big old Disney fans and yeah, you think that you're just gonna kids everywhere and it's gonna be annoying

I'd be on five and I'd put to six from my 40th from Singapore

Yeah, and never once if I've been my man

It just hits a kid to it. They're all in the kids' plate area, and then you don't get like the belligerently drunk more on Looking for fights on there like that you do be like kind of more piano and stuff because it's like a family cruise line Yeah, but the restaurants are like top tier and you rotate restaurants each night And yes, but you serve as follow you. Yeah, so they know you your preferences like I you're allergic to this or you're like this You want a beer or you want a cocktail of the day or they're gonna get to know you a little bit

Yeah, that's enough. So yeah, like that's we stopped the heaps of islands in the Caribbean Like antique all was one. There was a really beautiful like I would never have gone there any other time Yeah, but I'm really happy I got to go there. I'm not gonna. I wouldn't be there. I'm gonna book flights and go spend time in antique Yeah, so A cruise is a really good opportunity to visit places that you don't get to

Did you wouldn't go to it normally? Yeah, and then you were like check out but and it's also they can be quite relaxing But anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, so food and into travel

um I would like to go

Obviously Tyler would be pretty cool for just for the like training and stuff for that

I'd like to go to America Mainly what I think about is more just like place I can train. Yeah, so you trained in Japan? Yeah, tell us a little bit about that That was cool. Um, I went to go to Japan top team and then they did they didn't let me train because

“You have to want to you have to be looking to become a member”

So I thought I was a bit good. We didn't get paid like a casual session. Yeah, that's what I thought But then I was like fuck. I'm gonna go home. I would try and find another place tomorrow But I was like so excited to train there that I was like I was still out of the house I was like there's another gym nearby. Let me just look up what time they start and I'm they still didn't have their less than a make-lass to like another

Hour or so there's a fuck. I'm gonna go there. Yeah, no, I thought it was just gonna be like a it was like a normal gym just like hours But I thought it was gonna be and then I rock up and then all of a sudden the coach is like He's from the UFC. Oh, this is pretty cool. Um, get to learn from him. What was the gym cool? You know how did you? Yeah, you did say you got it. Yeah, yeah, and And then

“The first thing was like we'd started doing”

Technique like grappling technique in MMA class and I thought it was gonna be Like I just it was like a normal session. You know what I mean, but then I realized I made both of this session Because when he was teaching the technique he couldn't speak like barely any English So I had to let watch really closely to like what he was teaching because I was like otherwise I'm not gonna be able to understand Sometimes here like you can watch and listen and you don't like you still have to watch closely

But you know anything like you can get up to details from being out just be but language and understand But yeah, I do like make sure I was seeing every single thing he was doing and then I had a realization I was like oh my god, I'm actually training in another country right now. Oh, this is fucking crazy. Yeah, and then

And it's crazy how late they trained to like the first night was 7.30 and

Then the class ended at nine and then they did spying to like 10 and Then you put your name on like a whiteboard in the cultural hall pads feel yeah, and I didn't know because they were right in the whiteboard I was like what they doing on the whiteboard and I noticed every time they were driving the whiteboard the next person would get to hit pads And I was like oh, I'll put my name on the board. I was like the last person on the board So I was there until like

“1045 11. Why do you think they're trained so late? I think they just they just do everything like you know”

It's like stuff doesn't get Busy in the morning until like 11. Yeah, yeah, so they have like a later start time must be So I was thinking about training late. It's beneficial for fighting because you generally fight late. Yeah So obviously I do a world you're trying to train at least some time with the week close to when you're going to fight Yeah, cards do in when people start work at six or seven in the morning

Excellent Australia where there's obviously over there. They don't stay until like nine or ten o'clock Yeah, they can get up later and stay up I don't know if that's if they're work is like that too. I just notice that like um like because when you go around because there's so many people Everybody goes there's just so many people even if it's a weekday or not. Yeah It's the most densely populated city in the world. Yeah, I could see it because it was fucking. It was a bit much

So yeah, I agree but Yeah, you just noticed things started to get more busy around 11. 12. Yeah during the day And then I went there two I said I was only going to train once and then I went there the next night and I was like I won't I'll see you guys later. I'll maybe I'll come back one day and then the next night rocked up I have to come on with time. So you obviously really enjoyed it there. Yeah. It was good. It was good. Heading like

Take away different to a weekdays. How we train here to have a train like is it not just us at Trinity, but and specifically you've gone around and done some sessions at 7 GMs. Yeah, you kind of have a rough idea of how like SAM may operate. Yeah How what like any major differences any stuff it was like or That's I like doing it that way or it's not pretty much the same or if it was similar to be honest I was in the time swamps. Yeah other than the time

No, I felt pretty similar like we did the MMA session and it was like first thing you warm up with some like striking

Then go into technique then we did some wall like they didn't have a cave into that wall wrestling. Yeah, and then spying It was like similar to what we do and Harry people in class I depend on the day like on the first class It was probably like five or six. Yeah, but then the next night did the boxing class and it was probably like 20. Yeah And then the next day the MMA again there was probably like 10. How did it vary? How did you feel like school wise backing up?

It was weird because you know I only had my only had the four ounce gloves. Yeah, so like I feel like when you

“Punch with the four ounce you have to go obviously heaps lighter. Yeah, but you don't want to like you can't like really do fully extension because you don't want to”

Actually like crack somebody you catch them like coming into the punch in my eyes. Well, so I didn't really feel I felt we with the punches that night But then the next day we did kickboxing and I had the big gloves on and I felt a lot better You know, yeah, but yeah, you just especially you don't want to like go to a new gym in it It did not come out. Oh, yeah, I hurt somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Give him a bad reputation for yourself in the country that you represent exactly, but it seemed like they really love me

I like them too, so it was good. So you go back if you would go there. Definitely. Yeah So in how where where is it roughly? Just so if anyone who's going to Japan or anytime soon wants to trace it It didn't okay, so if you Google you know, I did yeah, I did gym Tokyo. I think I'm probably but I'm probably gonna fight this out. It was maybe Nishimashi, but I might be triggering. I don't know. I'm not 100% sure. That's alright people go go

Yeah, they're in Japan obviously it's a place that we'll let you try and know without especially if they want to be a member And they're a good friendly welcome and the skills and stuff for there to learn and develop Yeah, stuff so people in Japan going there because a lot of Australians going there at the moment It's a pretty good exchange right obviously Also expensive is going to I look at like Europe in America at the moment

Why expensive? It's probably like the most popular tourist place at the moment Yeah everyone's going to Japan especially Australians. Yeah, so yeah, that's that's cool Do you have any other topics? Yeah one more. Yep, um, obviously like coming up or like your whole Emma made career like for me. I had um, heaps of people that I looked up to like including yourself And then also like inspired me. Yeah

Who was that for you and it could be like people you trained me? There could be like a fighter in the UFC or a boxer You know the name so like you're like your whole career like yeah Dave to come tea. Yeah, firstly without him I probably would never have done MMA I'll yeah, I'd done like maybe for three or four two two sessions before I met Dave and He was a member of a gym always working out and was he already a purple

But when you knew yeah, he was probably just he just come off lean panpacks as a purple book

Yeah, I never met forget he's the train with the same striking coaches my first voice like coach

Yeah, there's no longer with us, but um, Dave Dave I sort of have this shirt on this as fighting solves everything Yeah, it was that one of the old school even the UFC these to be able to like tap out each and they catch shirts Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It was like a full combat fighter kit. I kind of know which fighter it was that walkout shirt Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and so I saw that doesn't go this guy's obviously a fighter

And they're sorry, but I'm like a Friday. There was a couple other PD's there and they would like doing some grappling Yeah, I was like, oh, can I jump in and he's like, yeah, no worries

“That's really him just like to mow a shing me like I was like how does this even work?”

Why is this guy just smashing me? Yeah, he's so strong. I swear he's very super explosive Yeah, as well even that now like he's in his 40s. He's still super explosive

Yeah, he just can't explode as many times as he used to. Yeah, so Dave was definitely something I always looked up to

Obviously Turner. Yeah, yeah business partner. I was his coach when he For ever way like I helped coach him along with Nick. Obviously he was I would do up to Nick as well as I thought he had Like some of the his philosophies of coaching and the way he he talks through where he was cornering I really liked how calm precise he did he was and I tried to Okay, some of that I've had him in the corner, but when I did see videos of like people fighting from Trinity

You hear like such a clear voice. I feel like you're good at that, too. Yeah, that's something that I'd like give Nick a lot of credit for because I've had other coaches and corner minutes that for you get a little bit more emotional like a bit more like Like yelling and get up

Yeah, but you push out above that all that type of stuff. Yeah, and I don't think that that I don't know You can tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that being like you know that and sworn at and stuff is not the most

“Doctin, the only time I think it's okay is like when it's like um like the Leon Edwards verse”

Commirersman before like that. Yeah, motivational talking and that fifth round. That's I did that with Ruhullo Yeah, when he fought What's his name from Kato Flex Abdul Abdul yeah, Ruhullo just

Was he he just wasn't on that night mentally and the first round

I don't just ragged out with him luckily Ruhullo has excellent malnourskites because he was mounted several times Yeah, I'm waiting like it's not only time really where I put a harder work on someone like I said to him

Yeah, I said to him just you just need to go one hard kick or knee

“He's gonna shoot from further just it's just snatch his neck and you'll finish him and then you give it and you see the video of me”

Doing a snatch of the neck. I thought it was crazy because when he told me I was like That's crazy and then you see like when I rewatch a fight and you're like you grab his fucking neck and I was like oh my god Yeah, that's not only time I really have like had to go that level Yeah, you're you're pretty good backstage. I mean I like I spoke to Alec about that and it's a question I would like to to trap to you as

After after oh I'll give you a couple of other people that I looked up Yeah, yeah, I was a little glad I grew up my first favorite fighter was my Tyson yeah Crying up your neck don't look a little kid, but my dad was a Tyson fan watching my killer and think things stuff and then You know when it came to like ever made like early days when I started watching a Rampage used to when my favorite fighters, yeah, just because I like how he you know

It was always an exciting fighter like crazy like the knockout of a errone on a priori, but he's in the triangle tower

I'm a knockout shark and You know you bought 90 heads epic wars and rivalries if I've been to a silver

“But not I think it was crazy when he lost to ventilating pride and then they fought the UFC and then he knocked him out”

Yeah, that check the check and catching the hook to come to him. Is that that fire? I've got it over there. Yeah, I was going to show it from that. He brought you on that was because that had him I think the main event was Frank me or no gara and me Is the one where they did the comora and they kept flipping as those the rematch first font against me a me a stop

No gara yeah, and and apparently no gara had to read about staffing fiction going to it Yeah, so I remember they rematched not no gara dropped me Yeah, and he could have kept giving him but he tried to kill a team and then me a roll down and I had that roll and he snapped his arm No gara was one of my favorite fighters going up fan or I barely an ankle like watching him. Obviously pride and Early GSP yeah, but also I tried to like look up to people that I trained with and so yeah

Like Tom Crosby even those younger than being he obviously had been trained due to longer than me And stuff he caught in me a few times and and I thought he's a fantastic cornerman as well and And then To this day like I still look up to Dave. I still look up to Mike. I still look up the Crosby and Obviously have

Have built relationships with lots of Logan fighters and stuff as well. Like I have a lot of respect for guys You know at almost every gym in that Adelaide like a pro rather off several names So I'm not gonna go and name everyone that like you know Obviously like we have a good relationship with with Like the CCMA guys even though you fight him. Well, it's still super cool to respect and stuff

Yeah, obviously like we have a shed Relationship with cardio flexing the way we'd like how Louis trains both gyms and Tim tended for his tire fight and stuff And then obviously we have often got up and done some training M16. Yeah, I mean I thought miles twice What's in boxing months ever made the way I have but well, I was gonna read for a kickboxing fight He was holding pants with me and doing some work with me. So that you know, we'd fought and I mean we fought

So then he'll be getting ready for fight and I mean that fight again later It's it's cool down that so like those type of guys that we have relationship with obviously was going to element that helping Volour out for a while. He's obviously made the transition over there But obviously at some of that little guys when we were moving academies in like 29 team to be taking moving to this academy

We had like a bit of a period of time where we'll close so We were going down on Saturdays and sparring with him for probably like a month. Yeah, which is super cool. So yeah, we were out What who who motivated you to get in came to me? I had no okay, so when I was younger

Me and my dad used to like love UFC um and like we saw what she like he was into it and we used to watch it

“We used to play the USC video game. Yeah, yeah, USC. I'm disputed three. I think yep”

It was out on Pierce, right? Yeah, Pierce. Yeah, and we used to play all the time to career modes and shit and event loads and stuff And then I stopped seeing him for a while and I kind of stopped like I wasn't I kind of just lost interest for MMA

But I always like wanted to like when I was a kid, I always wanted to

Do something like I was always like pitching myself whether it was cricket season I would always like like imagine someone like balling a ball when I hit sixes and I'd like do the, you know The fifth row raise the bat. Yeah, it raised the bat like and then the footy season I just always imagine myself like being like really like good at something and like doing something like special I guess yeah, and then same as us like with MMA

But then I stopped we stopped doing like being heaps into it and then two of my mates I'm you know them both Finn and Bruno. Yeah, they um, they were doing boxing at the time And I was doing really nothing in high school And then they kind of was the first ones were like Kind of inspired me because I saw them doing really well. Yeah, and I was like, I want to do something

Like I want to get back into it, but I didn't know whether to start or not as I should just try to get you to And then I got and then I came here and I was like, oh, fuck, I'll just try to try MMA ones Yeah, and I came here and I remember doing the very first session here and I was like, that this is what I want to do Yeah, I love it. Um, and then said in the first first person because I remember you were injured Yeah, my first came here so I didn't meet you for like a month

Um, the first person might welcome me straight away. It was the first person I talked to and he was like and then I felt really welcomed And um, that probably like helped helped a lot as well So that's big thanks to Mike is like yeah, that helped and then you came and then I remember being like You came the first time I ever met you you came and then you taught wrestling yeah first night

“I was like, who the fuck is this guy who the fuck is this guy?”

Yeah, that was like and then um Yeah, so I'd say you inspired me a lot by like just the hard work and

Like no matter if you're injured or or you're not you're always at training you work just as hard as everyone else

If not harder so That was a big inspiration. I would say Tim and Jake as well when you were like when I first started I felt like they were both like can you do more of a time and I saw that some of the skills Jake had I was like oh my god, that's like what I want to be like yeah, and then Tim just beast like The team is a work. He was like a work horse

So he's always wanted more rounds or like when he's so good as well Like his style looks like I'm different from the outside, but then when he actually spying It's like It's so hard to deal with you It's really hard to deal with his time. Yeah, and he's so good at like pressuring me without really having to do a lot

Other than like some of his movements and stuff. Yeah, so it's like it's hard to be on the front foot against him. Yeah, and that's obviously like The thing that you want to do if you're if you're giving Push backwards and your both strikers

“You need to find a way of like push someone back and he's really good at like stopping here from doing that”

Jake would always talk about it as like a snowball we're going down to here

Yeah, slowly get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and once it's Massive you can't stop him anymore, you know there yeah, so you have to kind of Trying to try and come up with some ways to get some respect and to push him down the back foot Which is as easy as you said the data. I mean, we're always in my Prime up Tim was like coming in through the amateur ranks

I mean, he would sparse up. I'm steady 35 minutes without stopping because he was so competitive and I'm competitive Yeah, neither of us wanted to say start. Yeah, that's what yeah, then come on and you can be like Like parents over stop like you know because it would be like we've done our rounds or without you know Like like when no one was in camp or then teams like you know another round in like yeah, right? Obviously it just went and went and went and went and this yeah, then so we had multiple of them

So he was always a definitely a workhorse when it came to a and then I'd say I got like three more

Yeah, when I first when I first started and um When I was watching like he obviously isn't training anymore. He made new gym, but Nick when he was wrestling and we're doing like the It was like you know how he did the cage rules it was like the winner stays in yeah It was like the winner stays in with the wrestlers king king of a man yeah king of the map And I remember one night just watching him just like go through everybody

And I was like a maze that was like what the fuck this guy is so good Yeah, that was crazy. I was like that's awesome And he's still really good wrestling now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah for sure And then I'd say Jack when I met Jack space here work. Yeah, because I didn't realize how good he actually was but like the first from the very first day

“I met him. I think he really like changed my mindset on like what it actually takes to become”

a profiler or to become a Filer like it was more for me. I felt like I was always dedicated but It was more a realization of it has to be more of a lifestyle instead of like a I just trained after work every night. Yeah, I mean it doesn't matter what I eat what I do Like I remember the first day of my jacket was like what the second day one of the two here's like

You got a wake up at six a.m. every morning and go for a go for a run every morning You got to do this and I would eat something based like why you didn't that stuff like that like it was that Help me a lot so I hope you that kind of develop into being a hobby It's Friday into how to take it really seriously because obviously well, I just didn't realize what it took Yeah, you know, I mean like I thought like I was dedicated enough

But then I realized like because you have to do

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so what they do outside the gym as well that matters if they're you know

“You said like if you're not eating well or if you're not doing those extra sessions or you know that no one's watching”

Yeah, and only you can cheat yourself by doing that stuff. Yeah, where you're for a fight Now obviously Jack is like one of the most like extreme when it comes like you work Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like almost like David Goggins. Yeah He's like the essay he banned his brother

Yeah, like that and it's been really good obviously. I've seen the changing your mindset since you've been friends with him as well So I have a great deal of respect for him with being really cool to have him corner Okay, like we do In fights and also just having around to talk to you and sometimes I'm not because I feel like he's yeah He's got a good head on his shoulders for fighting and he's obviously extremely talented fighter as well. Yeah

for sure and then I'd say as of like more recent times

I'm always looked up to him, but now especially the last like year

Like it seemed great. Alec is just like in Maximus. Yeah. Yeah, it just makes me More motivated to try and

“Like I swear I think everyone here has got like dead different things that they're good at”

Yeah, but Alec is like so good at grappling, but he's also super like athletic like he can do All these crazy movements and well we we the video he posted up really doing his back clips and yeah And obviously there's a lot of his like he's obviously very strong. I know he goes and does like Crossfit with Mary yeah Marco yeah look look Mom yeah and whatnot which obviously I answered to it. He's obviously very dedicated to a match like yourself

I obviously I came on the other night and squeezed him on his mindset and whatnot because you and him A two people I really look at as guys who know Where the ones who need to be into where it's time to compete or fight. Yeah, um, so If yeah, obviously it's a good person and you do a lot of drill to that. Right. Yeah. Yeah Because gently speaking you are fighting

Grapples yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't really fought a strike ever before guys who Was more solidly strike a base, but they still grapple you eventually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone turns into a grappler against you So Alex obviously a really good Partner to work because he's grappling so precise. Yeah, it's like it makes you like Most I especially at the level level I'm at now with the amateur saying it really different when it's a pro

But there's probably like not much that someone can throw at you that you haven't seen haven't seen from Alec Yeah, or even Rahulah like I'm I feel like that's another one like he inspires me too because every time We fight whether it's him fighting on me

We're probably our main sponem partner. Yeah, you do what you've got a lot of rounds together. Yeah, and I feel like it's always like

Like we're both getting better together like he's getting better one week and then next week I might get the adjoining the next week. He gets the adjoining me and then we're slowly just getting better together So pushes each other like to get better. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and you are you and Rahulah have some great rounds. Yeah, I love When you're here with a good show to something and he makes that noise Yeah, he starts going all like crazy

He's like the most like softly spoken to a guy Then randomly he'll just feel whoa It's crazy both I was in his last fight was epic as well with that flying triangle into the arm bar Yeah, that was one of the craziest things I was seeing so I he probably has done it before in training

But I'd never seen him do I've never seen him do it

Yeah, he said he he never done it in training. I don't know maybe maybe he had but But not like that no it was made with an executed light. I've never seen him do that Yeah, as it had the the wrist and everything like the the handcarving stuff. Yeah, but just to set up was perfect and I was like How do you know how do you know that I was gonna work? How good was his postfight as well? Yeah, I thought what is it? He's like I was feeling

Very tired and my chest was hurting from bad weight cut. So it's like I think maybe now I go for Finn Go for Finn yeah, like it's just classic roller Yeah, he's definitely a great training partner for yourself

“So one thing I guess about you being a a band-on-weight generally you should be a band-on-weight”

We haven't been able to get the band to weight fights. That's why you the family champ as well So being in the gym where there's so many like guys like roughly your size We have which is different because when I first joined here wasn't either. I was like all big you guys Yeah, my size and my god. Yeah, yeah, and now it's kind of like as you it's fierce roller Alec

I'm Jamie is like a weight class above but he's still like like you can you can still move around with him Yeah, Louis Yeah, that's the light obviously To move around with so you've got guys like well, that's another one

And also Jamie is last fight. There's just so many people to name you know But like Louis especially like um Yeah, I swear like he was always like

Always good since like when I first like made him when he first came here

But I swear like because everybody's got like holes in their game. Yeah, I do every all do But I swear like um Louise like Like every every time you spying or whatever there's like just less and less holes in his game

“It's really hard to find you know what to do. Yeah. No, I think he's”

Improved tremendously like Striking his is solid. He's always had good hands. He's adding into nice angles and stuff now Yeah, obviously like start chucking like calf kicks is becoming a big thing. Yeah, and obviously as you know You're quite good calf kicker as well team was a really good calf kicker It was kind of not really prevalent when I was fighting regularly so calf kicking is good at

His takedown defense is pretty good now as well. Yeah, yeah, absolutely and he's takedowns himself He's good hips with the sprues and stuff like that. Yeah, it's very strong hips and and he's got Submission game as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a pattern over all that says one submission But he's got a good he's got an arm choke. He's got like a seated Yeah, cuz it's a good buddy submission though. It's wanted in so hard to get out way in the title. Yeah, so

But then you know, you're the good good to think that he's he's takedown defense has really come up in my opinion Cuz it's more closer to his weight. He gets decent more faithy rounds in with Christopher Dennis. Yeah, I knew it was like wrestling with Chris Yeah, he's like a dog on a bite and he gets like a little bite in that leg and he just drives and like His wrestling is obviously like very strong. Yeah, especially he's been on a time at absolute Melbourne developing his skills and stuff as well. So

“Yeah, I think there's he's more people to name but yeah, it's like it's like when you do a post fight”

Speech, yeah, you always miss speaking. Yeah, and you don't do it deliberately. Yeah, yeah, you just end up in the in the moment

And you have to live right up a speech Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so people should never take a fence like where the fire doesn't thank them specifically even as they thank some people because Being that you've just Being in the fight yeah, you're not gonna ever get that adrenaline down. He might have got clops a few shots or you might have

You know be pretty tired. So you just sort of rattle off the people that come to top of mine Straight away or people that you can see yeah, yeah, exactly. I always had bad bad issues as well. I People are I remember one time Finding and I thank the mic turned around my shirt so I could thank sponsors and staff and then I thanked obviously my team and I thank them all these

Sp百-parts and that and didn't think I forgot to thank my family. So I got like a message from my mum My sister like they were all that this is I was fighting camera so they had people around their house to watch the fight And they were the thank you family. There's not damn I forgot my family like you as my man

Your mark always remind me try to try to turn him's always good at that. Yeah, yeah, easy. Well

It's been a really good pleasure of a conversation to have you on yeah, I'm really enjoyed

“I think your obviously have given some really good insights into”

You know some some cool topics obviously it's been heavily MMA based being that's your your passion We're going to talk about food as well. Yeah, and stuff so just quickly so I'm going to chuck it out. Yeah I question a few questions to you and they're just going to be a yes or a no Yeah, so we're going to be going to do UFC champs Are they still champ at the end of 2026? Okay. Okay. So Joshua Veng no

Next champ, we've got is Peruvian fuck That's hard. I feel like he beats everyone except If Marad can beat him like I don't know. I'm just gonna say yes. Okay. So Peruvian is Valk Fuck

Hmm, I want to say yes, but probably not To for you Yes, Islam Yes, yes Hamza

Yes, prayer He's getting old now. He wants to move up. Um Yeah, I'll say yes That's cool Yeah, I'll say yes, but let me go

Okay, I mustn't No, I think we're gonna be the pizza. She'll shanko She's gonna retire so isn't she? all Yeah, I'll say yes as well way Lee

Would not they they change that she if they can she fake? Okay, so there's not this so I think Mackenzie does the champ now

That's it, isn't it? Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, there you go. Yeah

easy. Thank you. Well um guys

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