By the way, I'm Matt Spederson has 143 points in the Green Jersey competition.
Heads up, binging Garmai, former Green Jersey winner, and second 79 points. He's easy. Binging on it. They're for a second. We thought he might have the legs to come to the front of the end. But, uh, Philips and 72. But, uh, outside of Peterson, they're all bunched up. Right? There's five guys within nine points. So, this is, again, I, you know, we've had to, uh,
βlean into the Green Jersey in previous years because the whole Jersey is a foregone conclusion.β
Unfortunately, we've never leaned into the polka doctors ever. I was zero interest. I've actually kind of interested this year. I got your Alex put on such a good writer.
Yeah. And he's here. He's gonna make it the break way tomorrow, which he'll certainly be trying to make that. Oh, wait, there's a world where Taddy Poguchar wins the Green Jersey. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the move podcast. I am Lance Armstrong joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, Mr. Dorcine Kappy. Good afternoon. How deep is the morning? Right, more deepest condolences. Oh, I know. That was rough. PK's, thanks for coming to support me. I texted you like five times, bro. It's going to PK's. Come watch with me. Come watch me. No response.
I was, I was in a work. It was interesting. I was, I was, I was actually meeting a guy in town. And we were meeting at this coffee shop. And, uh, and I, and all of a sudden these people started lying up looking like over my shoulder. And I was like, what are these, what are these people doing? And I realized there was a TV behind me. And it was the penalty kicks for Columbia. Switzerland. Yeah. And, uh, I was like, oh shit. And I, so I felt bad. I felt bad. And then of course didn't go your way. The professor spent some more. Great to be here. Nice to have you.
βKnow you'll on today. Um, we are talking about stage five, Alan. What do we do?β
Stage five from Lennmuzon to Po, from Lennmuzon to Po. Love it. Love it. Another hot day. Uh, as expected, let the guy, you know, especially a, a one man break away, what a perfect scenario for, I guess, help us and they probably did the bulk of the work.
Um, just let him sit out there two, three minutes and then, uh, and we have a classic field sprint. First one.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was pretty, pretty straightforward. Yeah. Not much to watch. We knew it was going to be like that. We knew it was going to play out like that. But if a hectic final come with crashes, the Ella jersey went down, but, um, a surprise winner. I don't think any of us considered him yesterday. You know, fifty one wins as a professional. Five years. It's a remarkable. Yeah. We probably should have considered him and retrospect, but him retrospect, but he just doesn't have, I can't, he doesn't have the name recognition because he's been on these money.
He's not putting a race. These bigger races, but clearly incredibly fast. I mean, George, we were blown away by the finishing speed. Yeah, we mentioned after we watched out like when we're not sure how anybody's going to beat him. And, uh, you know, like I run in without an issue for him has speed today. I mean, he blew the doors off a Malir Phillips and who knows if they got into some trouble that we missed before that, but man, that was a crash. Well, yeah, but his he went earlier lost a few guys in that crash. Maybe that messed up his.
Yeah, but all of Coi was by himself, too. He's sort of floating it on his own and yeah. That's two fifty go and he goes. Yeah. A lot of still this, this, this road furniture.
βYeah, that's what caused that crash and even even after that, of course, the other newsworthy thing there is guys were outside of this supposed sprint zone.β
So they were sort of really on their own. They had to fend for themselves and ride as fast as they go to the finish. But even within three kilometers, we're still traffic islands and they were able to manage those, but why every time you see those and then the janky hay bales sitting there, it's like it's just not. But that is the reason that the crash happened. Even the yolo jersey went down. Yeah, Torsten train. Not too hurt, he said.
Yeah, he said he was never. It doesn't seem to bother about much.
I don't know. Yeah, maybe that's the cancer survivor. And he's like, yeah, whatever. He was unruffled, not a big deal. The green jersey conversation has begun. Speaking of sprints. Yeah, Matt was wiped out five today. He was seven, seven. So he's getting, he's getting real points. That's not a great result for him.
But he might probably had a little bit of, you know, burnt some matches yesterday. Yeah, yeah, quite all day. So he's still, yeah, obviously in there with the, in the fight. Probably the bigger win for him is that Phillips and his fourth, you know, the point start to drop off really fast. So as long as Phillips is not winning these stages, it really helps Mads. And like I noticed in the Betty Markets last night, he was minus 120 to win the green.
The, like the market thinks essentially it's over already.
Yeah. And then after today, I assume, he'll only be a bigger favor.
βAnd less coy, like, what what can coy do in the green jersey classification?β
Can he, I think he's going to have to get in break away and just take intermediate sprints, like we saw yesterday. Well, that's a great question. And that, that's going to really rely on what his team wants to do. Because obviously they're there for Paul sexists, they have to really focus on him. So are they willing to give up a few guys to help all of coy?
I wouldn't think so, because he did he want today, basically, and his own, of course, it can help him in these finished sprints.
But to go for the green jersey, first start focusing on the green jersey points in the mid stages. That's going to be a whole, another question that we have yet to see. And we totaled up what, if you're thinking of like classic field sprint finishes on paper, I told a six. So today was one five more of these, yeah, on paper on paper. And Patterson can contest stages outside of that. That's kind of the secret weapon for him.
I clashed yesterday was so hard. I still can't believe we got over that climb. And one that stage. So like, Paris could be on the table for Patterson and theory. You think so, you don't think so? What we've seen before. What's going to be different with this?
No rain probably potentially. Yeah. It's a little early to be gone. No, I know, but it changed the dynamic of this last chance. Yes, definitely didn't it? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But of course, like that is really good for it.
Yeah, that's good. He's been top three in flanders. Yeah. The guys are beast on that short steep climbs. Spencer, you had a question as we're watching the race about Matthew Vanderpool.
And of course, we saw Phillips in today, what finish only fifth.
βThat was your prediction. I believe yesterday.β
I think Yohan probably went with my earlier on Y'all show. Yeah, I actually got a tip that I shouldn't pick him. I picked him anyway. Hmm. But yeah, someone with good eyes, very well-trained eyes, said he might not be in the best shape. Hmm.
Well, you're in your question was about Matthew Vanderpool. Where he like, for example, today, where was he in this mix? It was two minutes behind. Yeah. And then yesterday, you'd think, well, that's a perfect stage for Matthew Vanderpool.
And I thought, oh, maybe he's not going because he wants to save his energy for the lead out. And he's not there in the lead out. He has a really touching go. It seems like at the tour, he's either in or he's out. Like, there's tours where you don't really see him. He's just at the back. Well, if he's two minutes down, though, he probably got caught in one of those crashes.
I would guess. Because unless he sat up or because he was in that line when they were chasing earlier on. So, which would indicate that he was going to be there helping out Phillips in. So, perhaps something happened that we don't know. I think this is also an element of people,
not throwing everything to the wind at this stage. Because it's been so hot again today. Yeah. You know, there's a long way to go in this race. There's a lot of stages for someone like him to contest.
And it's not underestimate how hard this first four days has been.
True. Yeah. It's focusing on the mountain bike rush.
βAnd if you remember last year, he went a bit too hard, didn't he?β
And he had that one day where he woke up with a recovery score of zero or something. And pulled out. Yeah. That's true. So they probably learned the lesson.
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All right. So Bradley, move of the day. I think we know. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go Madspettison. The obvious one is obviously the winner of the stage.
But I'm going to go Madspettison to pick himself up after a day like yesterday. Great.
And we keep saying how hard this race is the first few days.
Someone like him would have expanded a lot of energy. So to pick himself up and get into a bunch of sprint mode today, with the eye on the green jersey in Paris. I think he did really well to finish 7th and secure the early stages of that green jersey. Yeah.
I think for a guy like Madspettison, he's got one of the strongest foundations in the sport. Obviously, he burned a lot of energy yesterday. But today was a relative of the easy day for those guys. They got the stadium in the wheels. And for him to make that extra effort together in the top 10,
I don't think it's a huge deal. But obviously, stud ride yesterday. But my picks all of joy. I just started with 250 super confident. Didn't even look back.
And if you watched the whole road shot, just put like three bike lengths on the best sprinters in the world. Yeah.
I agree.
I mean, it was super impressive finish.
βAlso, in the meta sense outside of the race,β
huge for the calf on. Like they want to be a super team, new owner to calf on Bob the team, CMA, CGM, one of the richest countries in the country. Sorry. One of the richest companies in the world on board is a co-sponsor.
And like, you know, that's a lot of pressure, especially when your leader's 19. Yeah. So this is like takes a lot of pressure off of this. Yeah, especially with what's looming tomorrow.
Yeah.
Normally, the first big mountain test of the Tour de France with this young 19 year old rider.
Yeah, it helps him. Yeah. This story comes off of his shoulders a little bit. They got to win. They got to momentum a little bit less pressure. You're right.
It's a huge deal and then many different senses. Yeah. This is a win for Paul Sishos as well. Going into tomorrow. I mean, that dinner table tonight is going to feel different
and the bus ride in the morning will feel different. By the way, we looked up this this team to calf on. That there has been some and Bradley helped me with this. There's been some iteration of this team for 30 years. Yeah.
Yeah. Going all the way back to casino. Right. You even before that. Yeah.
You had, you had, you had 95. They went, they had a team in the right way. Shazal. Shazal. Shazal, that became casino.
Yeah. Then became a G2R. Anyways, the team has been around a long time. We looked up, you know, for a team that's been around that long now. You just mentioned it's been sort of this budget.
It hasn't been very prolific. Right. I think we counted. Well, today would have been the seventh Tour de France stage. When that they've had in the last decade.
Yeah. And first since 2023. First of them. They've indeed won. So this, this is, but, you know, obviously, they have this one.
They're kind of in Paul Sajas. They have the stage went today, which was dominant. Yeah. Well, they also spent a lot of money on coi cost.
I think I heard 2 million euros.
Yeah. But it's like, don't overthink it. It's okay. We need a tour stage win. Well, let's buy the best winner that's available.
It's probably going to win a tour stage.
βSo that's, that's what money solved that problem.β
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they've had a great season. So far, too, that they're at 19 wins already the season. They're fourth and, you know, the points.
Yeah. So they're on a roll. I think they're just going to get better and better in the store. Yeah. Oh.
What is your move today? You're still one. You know, when we go around the horn. And I kind of just, I kind of just vote with you guys. I like, I mean, I, and what do I know?
Well, they like today. And then there's not much. I mean, I have to. Yeah. He was, uh, wasn't even close.
Right. And the fact that he, he did it alone. Um, I mean, he's the guy. But I, I don't disagree with with any of, you know, with the, with Matt Spaderson. By the way, I'm Matt Spaderson has 143 points in the Green Jersey competition.
Head's up. Binging. You know, we've had, uh, lean in to the Green Jersey in previous years, because the whole Jersey is a four-gong conclusion.
Unfortunately, we've never leaned into the polka doctors ever.
I was zero interest. I'm actually kind of interested this year. Like Alex put on such a good writer. Yeah. And he's here.
He's going to make it the break way tomorrow. Which he'll certainly be trying to make that. Oh, the way there's a world where Taty Poguchar wins the Green Jersey. Well, yeah, because he's sitting right now. He's sitting six.
If you have five points, yep. He's going to keep it on him. But the mountain, the mountain stages are what half of the sprint stages for the Jersey. It's my peed less than that.
He loves the mountain. So they're not. But that's something that is being made. It's something he might. Yeah.
Just get by accident. Let's just get every Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would love.
Yeah. I don't think the people would like that, but I would love to see that. It's like, it's like, it marks did that, right? Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, the white jersey's going to be interesting. Yeah. You know, it's, you know, it's dire. I'm the white jersey battle on stage five. But this, the point jersey's going to be good.
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Kennyon.io/TheMove. Woo! It was really strong out. I mean, I know we had the crash, but that last camera angle, we were all like, "Whoa!" I mean, you just saw...
Yeah, it was crazy. Gaps opening up, I mean, is that... Was that the crash or was the heat? Yeah, when we were getting them overhead shots, you could see when it starts to get barred,
just how much it kind of expands. Fumbles down and that call such a string out. Normally, the wave of these finishes doesn't... Yeah, well, let's not forget it was a one-guy away. So kind of relatively easy to keep them at three minutes.
So what does that mean? The whole peloton's fresh coming into this last ten kilometers. Everybody's willing to risk their lives to get a top five, top ten result. So the guys that are leading it out, they're just feeling this warms coming by. I'm gonna have to go faster and faster, which makes it super strong down.
I mean, the GC guys were 14 seconds back. And I need to go back and rewatch the stage to see if they did it. But at the zero, these moves doing this thing. I really like it. They ride in a bubble off the back.
Today, you might have been too fast to do it. Yeah. But the thought is the risk, the benefit of staying far forward is not worth the risk of crashing. We would ride on a bubble on the left for right side of the road, away from the peloton.
So in the front. At the zero, you'd see them like they'd be like five feet off the back of the peloton, just by themselves on these sprint stages going in the last few days. I don't think five feet enough. Well, I mean, that's different, too.
Like the onus was winning by what five, six minutes at the point. True. It was a pair of his losing 20 seconds if they were impressed. Realistically, yeah, what are you going to lose? Exactly.
Interesting.
In that 14 second group that you just talked about Spencer.
Poguchar, Remko, Paul Seychos, Pitcock, Caripass. All right there. Sean Quinn. Yeah, that is their own bubble. They were that was the bubble.
Yeah. That was their own bubble. They're all, by the way, they're fine with that. They look around and they've got all these guys. It's 14 seconds or one minute, 14 seconds.
Guys, a matter of there. Yeah. Well, sir, we're somebody up. It's not getting the front. I wasn't.
Hmm. Hmm. We talked about tomorrow. It's going to be a big day. First big day.
This, this. This just shows you how on eventful it was today. But do we mention that guy? There was a way. We did it.
But he apparently last year, I read about him. Last year, he was doing like a gravel backpacking trick in Thailand. Really? Yeah. At the end of the looks of Timber.
That's pretty interesting.
βAnd I think to ask some, why haven't you done any grand tours?β
Like, I'm not ready to do a grand tour.
And here he is in first tour to France.
Apparently he stayed with, um, what's his name yesterday?
Arnold Deli.
A bunch trying to help him get to the finish.
How to believe him. Talk about having a lot of his day.
βHe said he went to break today to honor the race and honor the fact that he's actuallyβ
in the tour to France. I mean, he was doing gravel at the end of the last season. That's cool. Not thinking he'd be in the tour to France. Which I thought was really cool.
Would you do that? Would you do a bike packing trip around Thailand? No. I would do that. Like, I don't ever think about bike trips to be like, oh my god, I would love to.
Yeah, that sounds too bougie to do that. But you need like five star hotels, AC, you know, five, you know, you know. You also need to see that. Years ago, across Cuba. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I dare of getting Spielberg to film it or something. Spielberg.
You did. Oh, hang on. I was like, and I'm just getting a text from Steven Spielberg. I'm just getting Spielberg. I'm just getting Spielberg.
You said Spielberg or someone to talk to me. I think it was Angus Morton. No, no, no. I'll find the missing. Angus Morton, Steven Spielberg.
Yeah. Same class. Spielberg. But we didn't want to do it. So he went on and made the alien movie or whatever he just did.
Yeah. But you could have, you could have been that. It was Baptiste, Vice-Stropper, kind of an interesting name for a Frenchman. Yeah. And he's not an a French team, but he's a French writer.
Anyways, you're wrong. I would do that. I would do that. Thailand's supposed to be gorgeous. Yeah.
Yeah. Actually, you wouldn't do it, Bradley. I mean, I could be convinced to do it. If it became, you know, I didn't say you wouldn't do the gravel ride. I said you probably wouldn't be backpacking.
There's probably ways to find out. I'm not, I'm not. Yeah. All right, I'll give you that. It's the four seasons, the four seasons.
My family can tell you. In all of our years, we've been camping one time. And I went, and they just made me go. And we, we car-camped. This ship wasn't even camping.
Okay. This was car camping. Here in Colorado. Yeah. 20 minutes from the house.
But you feel like your middle and nowhere.
And I said, I'm never doing this again.
I insisted upon an air mattress, like a blow up mattress. And the thing kept deflating in the middle of the night. And I'm a great sleeper. Anna, my wife is horrible sleeper. And you know, the thing's deflating, I keep airing it up, deflating, air it up.
I'm like, why is she sleeping? She's not even waking up. And I'm so pissed. And I'm like, I'm never doing this again. And so we wake up the next day.
And she confesses that she took a sleeping pill. And she slept like a baby. And I'm like, that's it. I am done. That's funny.
This is what this is the shit you talk about on. By the way, stage only three and a half hours. I meant to mention that. That's a quick. I mean, it looked like they were just chilling and going easy.
Three and a half hours. For this generation, they're like, Oh, recovery day. I was like a tour down under stage. Three and a half hours.
Yeah. Yeah. And you're seeing a lot of these teams have these. The ice tubs at the end of the race as well, which we had back in HDC in 2009. I'm sure they've gotten a lot more advanced.
βBut I think it's a big part of their recovery.β
They're going straight in the cold lunch with their full bike get on helmet on. Everything is cool. And I saw a poker chart with his shoes on. Which, you know, I mean, a lot of people. I know I struggled with a lot of like the hot foot when you feel like you have
knives in your feet when it's that when it's that hot. That's like the worst feeling in the world. Don't miss that at all. But a lot of these guys go through that. And they just kind of have to plow through it.
Interesting. So the ice at the end of the race would feel very about the ice bath at the end of the race would feel really, really good. Do you can you do cold lunch or can you get in that? Yeah.
I cannot like sauna all the time. We have sauna. We have both of them at our house in Austin. And they're awesome. And I get in that sauna.
Like, yeah, I'm optimizing. I'm going to live forever. I see that cold plunge. And it's got like 49 degree. Whatever.
Not even that cold. I get a pinky toe animal. No. I cannot do it. Can you do it?
I can do it.
Not first thing in the morning when you get out of bed though.
We just went predominantly. A lot of people do it. Yeah. That's hot. It's just no way.
I mean, the people go a lot colder. I mean, what are they doing? Are they actual have to have actual ice baths? Or are they in the old days? They had like the kids swimming pools.
Yeah. Swan years dump and ice bags in there. Is it that? Or is it something a little more professional? I think now it's more.
I saw one where it was like, I truck like ball rain has a, it's like a cooling truck. And then you go in the back and it's like a spa. There's a nice little ice baths in there. Yeah. Well, I know you guys wanted to talk about tomorrow's stage.
But we're, we're going to take a break here in a second. We could talk about it right when we come out of the break. I was stalling her for a little bit. Francis Cade. And you can, okay.
βYou should do it by packing trip in Thailand with you, Lance Francis.β
Yeah. Who's that? I mean, it's like an influencer. The many of you mentioned gravel. I'm, I had a few friends that did unbound Excel this year. And it looked miserable.
Yeah. Yeah. It did look miserable.
It looked miserable.
Yeah.
βBecause the first thing that's a lot of clay there.β
So if there's any precipitation, it's, it's unreadable.
Yeah. People are talking for a minute. It looks great. The guys are racing in the front and racing for the wind. But the guys take it three days to do it.
Like us would take us would be. Yes. Would, can I, and you can't bring your guy like Dave, I can't bring Dave. Dave, clean chain. Yeah.
Check tires. Yeah. Move the chain. I don't understand the appeal. You can't.
It's all self-supported. Well, no, no, the unbound they have like pit stops. Yeah. But that's outside of that. You have to carry everything.
Yeah. Woo. All right.
We will be back in two minutes and 32 seconds.
And we'll talk about tomorrow's stage. Take your voice males. And, uh, talk about the world before. They're back. All right.
Come back everybody. Before we get to the stage six preview. There's one thing. I want to, uh, this isn't anything we should ever do regularly. But, uh, like when you're growing up, you haven't dinner with your mom, whatever.
She's so sorry. Let's do my mom still does this stuff. It drives me crazy. She's like, let's do hi, though. We do this too.
Like your highs of the day, your lows of the day. And everybody has to say, go around. Say it. I'm like, uh. Anyways, best part of my day so far.
Uh, I'm at upstairs because we're down below the gym, but I'm upstairs working out. And actually Dave's standing there talking to me. And we see Liz Krutz. There's a parking lot. Like, if you can imagine, like, right there.
She's walking across the parking lot with an Ottoman hanging on her hand. Dases what? What is going on here? She walks up with an Ottoman that she's actually sitting on right now. I'm looking at it.
And we're like, what are you doing? And she says, this guy just drove up and said, hey, man. Do you want any fat? Can I give you something? He was about to throw the Ottoman away.
She said legally. And she says, well, I'll take it. So she's walking across the parking lot with a free Ottoman. And she, it was like Christmas for her. She's now sounding.
No, she's, she's so proud of it. It's, it's, I wish everybody could see this. Um, let's talk about stage six. Uh, this is, I guess, our only real proper day in the Pyrenees. It's a shame.
It is a shame. It's a shame, because, you know, historic climb. Cold aspirin, cold atomalite. And then potentially a limp anti-climatic finish. Ah, you know what I mean?
I, I don't know, because I, I stayed up. I was, this was like reminding me of something. It kind of is like, as you were to tell your type of stage, we'll do the, you know, like the finestra and then they'll finish it. Sestereer, where it's harder climb.
And then easier finish and sometimes that's very exciting. Like Christopher went to Chris Froome, attacked over there. When Simon Yades attacked and that. Yeah, but that, that was normally on the last day. True.
This is day five, six, six. Yeah. True. I mean, yeah.
βAnd I just think when you're in the Pyrenees, you need to maximize.β
Yeah, the Pyrenees and what they could potentially offer to the race. And, and it's a little bit. Do we think UA is going to? Who knows? New, everybody on the tournament.
That's all's tattoo. Yeah. Well, we're going to get, he gets a little shout out in torscent trains interview after the race today. But, I agree. If you look at the profile and if you read what ASO has in there, there is the profile.
If, I mean, every, I mean, we all know that span and the tourmalade very, very well. They're incredibly hard, especially, by the way, not, it's worth noting. Tomorrow, the stage starts at 1230. Tomorrow, the high temperature in Poe is 99 degrees. So, there's a world where they start this stage at probably 95 degrees Fahrenheit.
And it's a long stage, right? So, then you've got to spend, then you've got to tourmalade.
What might be deceiving Bradley is eight, it look, 18.7 kilometers at 3.7 percent.
There is nothing to like about that. No. But, now, that is an average, right? So, there are pieces of this climb that are steeper. There's pieces that are probably even downhill or flat.
So, that's factoring into this average. You know, but I'm with you. I think if you're going to have stages like that with Aspen and Tormalade baby, let's go finish up, lose art at an hour or something else. I don't know.
But likewise, it could turn into being one of the best stages of the tour. We just don't know, it depends how it's raised.
βWell, how many times last year did we see Tade go at 70 K to go?β
Yeah, because I don't mind. And never saw him again. I do worry, let's say it was a big summit finish. I worry that that encourages waiting. You see that more and more, because everyone's like, "Well, it's about the final climb."
This might spread the action further in the race. I don't know. I hope. Totalvert for the day, 4,100 meters, 13,500 feet. So, just you just stack all those things together.
95 plus at the start, one of the longer stages of the tour,
13,5 on the vert.
And what? Over 100 K, relatively flat. I'm just going to make it super aggressive. It's accurate. Jacky-darrant, full line, starting on 11-0 attack.
Actually, I think what's going to be really interesting is the sprint point. Yeah, 64. Any climbs. You're going to have all the sprinters have to get in the race. Hour and ten minutes of racing.
Yeah. Can we pull a profile back up? Let's see that. Hmm. So, just want to, okay?
Like, it's going to be a battle for that sprint. So, 106K to the bottom of the cold last span, which we've all done many times, and no quite well. And that's going to be something, like, if the break was not that far away, by then, then you might say, "Hey, we can win the stage,
Monoggle, go for it."
But I always think that'd be a pretty good margin,
by the time we get to the cold last span. What do you guys think? It all depends with the sprint, doesn't it? Well, then the stage is largely a weird little trick for Milo. Trying to keep it together for that first hour.
Yeah. So, we're going to see the same thing. Well, and then it's sort of, kind of a second race starts after the sprint. And then, by which time they don't get as much time for the climbs, and then we get more of a race.
Yeah. How's Torsten Train going to do?
βWell, that's what we, that's one of the questions we have.β
First of all, he has 7 minutes and 53 seconds on Tadebo, which are. To me, as I look at this, he only has 28 seconds on Sean Quinn. Now, we were discussing this as we were watching today's stage. Torsten Train a much better climber. He's finished up 10 in a grand tour on paper.
He can manage Sean Quinn. But you can also have bad day. He can crack. And if he does, you know, Sean Quinn just starts frothing. Sean Quinn's just saying, "Oh, I have to do a stay within seven minutes.
And I'm an American in the Yellow Jersey." Yeah. That's not, uh, unforeseen. Yeah.
But Torsten, I like this guy.
I mean, obviously they have this, I don't know, at all. Other than he's, he's really warm team already. Yeah. We were talking this more about Magnus Courts Instagram. Yeah.
And they did a series of photos of him in the Yellow Jersey, and he's room at the hotel. One in the shower, one sound the toilet. Just did the guard. That's it.
Yeah, I really see that. Listen, I haven't heard the name Magnus Court in years, but we kind of fell in love with this guy years ago, when he talked about listening. They said, "What do you do to relax after the stages?"
He said, "I listen to heavy metal. A naked and helicopter." I was like, "That's it.
βThat's my favorite rider in the peloton."β
Immediately. Well, actually, I love the whole team. That was a photographer taking some pretty dope photos. Yeah. The team is like riding without fear.
You saw them today with like five K to go. They still had four or five guys out there.
I mean, they're, they're taking them both by the horns,
having the Yellow Jersey. And I think they're going to continue to do that in the next few days. Well, he was asked at the finish, how he thinks he'll do tomorrow, whether or not he can hold on.
Get it, listen to this. Tell him more pressure on you. So this is a big, big, big mountain stage coming up. Yeah, for sure. Tomorrow is the hard day.
So then you'll just have to hope and pray. You have good legs. And we'll see you on the course. But you're confident you're going to keep it. We don't know.
Today is today. And you almost is on us, so they are riding pretty well when they're riding fast. I thought it is today. You're on us as you're on us. Bradley can probably do that.
Yeah. He's just getting up the speed on him. Yeah. I know. We're going.
We're going. Actually. What is that key? Yellow to more of that. Yes.
I think he does. It's good. It's like good media training because you,
βyou should just repeat the fact back to them.β
Yeah. Right. So it's like house tagging to do. He's going to do good because he's riding fast in the race. You're not saying anything.
You're just repeating facts back to them. Yeah. Clever. Even with the injury, he says you can see for yourself. Yes.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, "I think, Roglic, they asked them." They said, "How is the race?"
And he goes, "The race was the race." It's like, "Oh, that's air tight right there." There's nothing to grab onto. That's like the Joker. That's the game.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We won. Let's take all his voice, Miles.
As I'm loving this little feature segment. What does it remind me, our number? Sorry. Remind me, George is one number. Plus one.
Plus one. Because we are in America. 970-718-2736. Call and leave us a voice mail. We're going to rip to a couple of these.
A couple of few of these today. Call and what? Who's our first person? Hi. This is sharpened from Seattle.
I've just got one question for laying up to that would be. Where is the sharp sand haircut, man? I really miss that. I have a love hate relationship with it. But I want to go to no one's going on with that.
So I love the podcast. She popped a great work. Bye. All right. Sean and Seattle.
It's funny. They don't play us the voice mail before we get up here. So I didn't know. We don't know what's coming.
I, I don't know.
I feel like I have a little of that today. That's ironic that your voice mail got through. Speaking out there, it's peeking out. My hair is shorter this year. Other years, I don't know what I was thinking.
I just let it grow. I'm trying to get a little vibe. You don't fool a bomb of this, you. Yeah. He's going to similar heck up.
I'm a can't do this. But anyways, I feel like it's kind of acted. That's, that's good timing. Yeah. Yeah.
We should bleach it like Donald Trump. Orange. Next one. Next one. Oh.
Move it on. Hey, guys. John from Utah Calling. As people who have written their bikes all around the world, do you think that there
βwill ever be a Grand Tour style race in the United States?β
And if you could create one, what kind of, what would the look like? Thanks, guys. Good question. It's a great question. Great.
George. A grand tour that would be kind of a difficult, you know, transverse in the whole United States because of the size. But in a certain way, we have plenty of great spots right here in Colorado. Utah, we used to have the tour of Utah.
You can get some. Yeah. Tour of California.
If you can merge those three, that'd be amazing.
Try fresh Virginia. I'm biased. So these coats would be kind of nice too. Yeah. The West Virginia tour.
You gotta go there. No tour West Virginia. There's a big race. Yeah. We don't see it happening any time in your future.
βBut hopefully some will start seeing some more racing pop up.β
And there's rumors that maybe the tour of Colorado has come back. I just heard that yesterday. I don't know if you guys heard that. Philadelphia's back. The August, which will be my team will be racing in.
So slowly, but surely hopefully we'll start seeing more and more racing pop up. But a three week race. I don't see that ever happening. And just hard to just from just a geography standpoint.
You know, France is basically the same size as the state of Texas.
So if you think about the United States. So big. 3000 miles across. If you did say, okay, you know, somebody wanted to put up the money. We're going to do a three week race in the United States of America.
And we're going to touch it all. You would first of all, you'd have unbelievable transfers for the riders. Yeah. And then a lot of those stages. You know, once you get past, you get west of the Mississippi.
You mean hard to have any spectators. Hard to have the riders. Where is everybody? The East Coast is obviously dancing. And, you know, has a natural, you know, has the topography.
You can make a hard race there. You could make it there. But boy, tough to cover this country. You did more than three weeks. And you'd still have to be covering a lot of this.
These, uh, is Jason Alding says, you know, fly over territory. But even Colorado. See that quote. I did. Yeah.
What was the quote? I don't know. It's just, Alding has a song. You know, your flying over the plane looking down. You're like, man, this is, we just want to fly over.
Yeah. We don't want to stop. But it's, and there's been a lot of, it's actually, it's a, it's a, it's a serious point. I mean, there's been in this country.
There's been a lot of stops and starts. You go all the way back to the course classic. Then you, uh, you sort of fast forward the tour to Trump, which became the tour to Pond. And then the tour california tour.
You, and these races have a hard time sustaining themselves over time.
βI mean, I think, and they, uh, they got four or five years.β
And then they fizzle out. It's hard, you know, there's not a, there isn't a 20 year, big time stage race in this country. They just, they come and go, which is, is unfortunate. Here, we, we set it almost a week ago.
This is the 113th edition of the tour to France. And there, and there will be a 213th. And whatever, let's say, I ruins us all. Um, but it's hard. It's hard in this country.
I mean, the loss of california. It's a good question. It was devastating. Yeah. That was, Bradley, you, you won that race, right?
Did you look forward to going to? Yeah, it was a great great great record. Particularly when we were in that bag as well. So, okay, there's hope that was a blow. I felt like because it was it was popular with riders a lot of a lot of
local fan support. Tide Poguchar did it. Yeah, that's where that was his first pro win. I believe. Yeah, and one there. I mean, it was really gain in momentum wasn't it. Yeah, I was
Should we do one more are we have one more? Okay? Hey, Lance, this is Rod. Hey, so Vinny goes and we're in the mask for a couple of days and The status two and three. He was definitely giving up the wheel a little bit. Kind of stuff for next. Is there a chance he's a little bit sick? Talkably and he was probably happy to give up the the elderly on stage. Great question. Good. Good question. I didn't it's funny that it's it's now we're talking about this. You've seen it on
We saw our George saw it. He actually sent it to our group chat said, "Ooh This is where in the in 95 I didn't think about whether or not he's coming down with something or if that's just precautionary
That might actually be a question for Johan.
Guys are fighting something off for some sort of injury. We'll see we're in in the 0 2
Good question. I don't he was sick during the zero. Yeah, I mean doing that just doing the zero
βWould I think cause you to be kind of fatigued at the start of the tour, but well, I mean it was enough that I meanβ
I guess to to the questioners point I mean it was you saw a George and right away fired off on the on the group chat like he's wearing an in 95 Yeah, I mean it just stood out the stalker race where he said it's just precaution. There is some sickness going round and It's a precautionary thing, but whether that's within the team or within the peloton or within the hub of the peloton I mean I I wouldn't want to do it, but I don't I don't hate it. I like if he thinks he's that that that gives him a better chance to stay in healthy
It's the tour he has to so Yeah, is it worth the optics straight off? Is it great optics? I don't think he really cares. Yeah, he definitely does not care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the only optics are going to matter Potentially tomorrow on the tour milling like I guess we'll know then if he's sick or not because if you're sick on the tour milling Yeah, it's probably there's no hiding. Yeah, the tour milling that side is and we did it is the traditional side
There are two you can go up that thing two different ways. They're going up the classic traditional hard side
It's I always struggled on that climate just see it
Hey, so this is a lot more g-side isn't it? Yeah, yep. Yeah, it's a little bit shaded at the bottom It is recovered and you get a little shade there's a lot of those tunnels Remember they belong those avalanche tunnels and I actually wouldn't be a bad thing if he was a little sick Because then he's just going to get better and better and he would think we should make the race We have we have heartedly disagree with that
You do It might be better if he if he was hard won the first stage got to this second stage The same time as poker chart now they're hitting the mountains and let's just assume he's better
βThen arguably he's going to be even closer to poker chart which will make the race more exciting. Yeah, and well the other part of the question was was he glad to give up the old jersey?β
I mean in theory, yes But let's keep in mind how we gave it up like that that demonstration with Del Toro and poker chart Yeah, probably probably did not want to give it up that way. No Bentham trivia and before we get into Bentham trivia for those who don't know
Bentham is founded by the ideas Egyptian so we're now we're going to go back to the woke up for just a hot minute I was well, I can't I don't know what I was doing after America got out. I'm sort of over soccer, but I walked in and I look at the TV Egypt to Argentina zero with like no time 12 minutes to go. There's a little time left
And I'm like oh my god these Egyptians they're gonna do this and Messy just to be in a goat doing goat things A little bit of controversies and questionable calls they come back and win He was crying But my deepest condolences go out to DNA and all the Egyptians they had me the you saw them in the stands
βThey these people were like we got this that is devastating. That's what goats do it isβ
Let's go cheer right there The answer to yesterday's question the question was When the tour de France finished in full on 2017 a Frenchman took the went on best deal day for the first time in 12 years who was that rider? answer Warren Bargain
Today's question po has hosted the tour more times than almost any other city how many times has it been featured?
A lot. I mean, I seem to remember always going to po for example
Po has hosted the tour more times than almost any other city how many times has it been featured? Head on over to ventemracin.com/themove enter to win also enter for the chance to win 5,000 bucks off a bike That's it. That's it they date them off. Yeah big day the first and only Stage in the pier and he's kind of our year. It is yeah. This is and I think I was just stuck on this in the previous show
I was like I I I think it's a disservice First of all, I think the finished tomorrow. We'll see how it plays out. I think it's a disservice to something like the tour. But I think it's a disservice to the pierties. That's not what you and I couldn't get around that That's where I was going with it. Yeah So time will tell we'll see if tour student train can hold on
I think you will tomorrow. I agree. Yeah, yeah, we need to see that. Oh, we don't need to see it But we need some helicopters happening at the WX Hotel celebration Man, that's cool. Did you work? George, by the way, why are you not? You're so you're you're very close with Tor Hushoff.
These days I can grab these at the say out of the wall.
We're getting access to yeah, I thought about yeah, I couldn't I can ask them but tomorrow they're in the We're in the high mountains so we might be hard to get hold of them, but I can ask All right, thanks for tuning in everybody. Let's see the more


