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That's IQBAR.com promo code bar20 to get 20% off plus free shipping IQBard.com code bar20. Aw, Fanzo Ullalio, the race leader, Spencer had get six second time bonus. Ben O'Connor kind of heads up, move.
Chase's after him gets four seconds. So they get a time bonus, they extend the race lead, they have the jersey for probably losing on Saturday, after they win a stage. I mean, it is, you could tell when they were interviewing
the Bahrain staff, just how excited they were. That has to be good vibes inside the team.
β- Spencer, success is contagious in a ground tour.β
You know what I mean? Do you, everybody's on cloud nine right now? And, you know, everything seems to work. As we say, as I say many times, the second part of round tour is there's a lot of mental struggle
and a lot of, it's very different if you suffer for a reason, or if you suffer just because you are in the race
and you have to follow the incredible pace
that other teams impose on you. It's very different, the kind of suffering. (upbeat music) - Everybody, welcome back to the Move Plus. I'm Spencer Martin.
I'm here with Y'all in Brineel. We are breaking down stage 12 of the Girod Italia. And then we'll predict stage 13 talking about who we think is gonna win that. But stage 12 was a sprint-stay, breakaway day.
No one's quite sure what it was. It was a hard day with a high pace. A breakaway got away early. Was realed in. Another breakaway win was then caught on the first climb.
When Movies started pacing just like they did on stage four, and then they just sat in it down. There was an even harder climb. Intercomos is at the front. Whittling down the group, Paul Monday's drop.
Jonathan Melon's drop. We think it's gonna be a Purdue sprint. We have guys like Tuna, our teeth and Vernon. Jonathan, our bias, who's gonna win this thing? Oh, it's Alec Seigart with a late attack.
A beautiful late attack with 3K to go. Was planned. It was in the final corner. He must have read Greg Le Mans, bike racing manual.
Always attack into the corners.
It's all I remember from that book. And Alec, he did that. It was perfect. He exited the corner with a big gap.
βAnd key, these moves on the front with Victor Campinard.β
It's nothing really to pull forward other than keep you on his friend of God's safe. By the time, Uno X got to the front, two door got to the front. It was too late.
And both of those teams got to the front, not one of the other. It was too late and he held him off. It was Yohan perfectly planned attack. What was your takeaway from the stage? Yeah, super nice winning for Alex Seigart.
He's first ground tour stage when ever. And you know, we've seen him do this already several times this season, Spencer. You know, like earlier, I think in March, we saw him do this in the Nokera Rampri.
He got caught like with 100, 200 meters to go. And they after. He did the same thing in Gropri, the Nat. Where he won. And he sorted this, remember it was at Dwarfs, Dwarfs.
No, no, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't. Yeah, and he didn't work out because God knows how to, yeah.
βSo, you know, you have to have huge power to do that.β
He's a time trial specialist, you know, X, European champion under 23, time trial. And very strong guy. So the thing is, you know, like for Seigart, you know, you have, he has to be in great shape because, you know,
he's, he's a tall guy, but, you know, he's also almost 80 kilos, you know, 79 kilos, which, you know, for, for rider, his size and his, his weight to make it over those two last climbs at that pace, because, you know, Movistar was really drilling it to try to,
to drop all the sprinters with, you know, they succeeded with most of them. As you said, you know, Milan was dropped, Bruno Bigum was dropped, Manje, Lunt, and others. And so for Seigart, with his size and his weight to make it,
you can compare him with people Ghana, right? In terms of weight. But I do think Ghana is now 87 kilos.
Even, that's okay, we're on the street.
But 79, I mean, we were just doing quick math. He probably would have to be doing 450 watts if Enric Moss is pacing around, like between five and a half and six watts per kilo, even if five and a half was what Moss was doing.
βSo you have to do a lot of power to stay in that group.β
Yeah, that size. Yeah, so, you know, he has to be, the thing is that I think, you know, because he did say it his interview after the stage that they planned this attack at the same. That's very spot, yesterday evening when they went
over the strategy. So, you know, he must have felt really confident that he would make it over that climb, which is not easy. You know, because everybody, I think everybody kind of knew that Movistar would do this.
They succeeded. I mean, they almost succeeded, but at least by, you know, dropping the sprinters on stage, was a stage two, or stage three? No, actually, no, it's later. No, it's not, it's not, it was not vice,
his first, not vice first when, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So, it was very similar terrain. And for sure, Movistar was going to try this. We talked about it yesterday that that was a possible scenario.
βAnd they did, I think they did it really well.β
The problem with those kind of strategies, Spencer, is, and especially, so deep within the grand tour already that, you know, you don't have a full team anymore. And some guys are injured, some from crashes, some guys are sick. No, they have Javier Romo, who abandoned today.
They have Juan Pelopis, who looks like he's hurt from a crash, because he has bandits over and over his legs. So you're not, you're not a full power. And the danger is you spent two or three riders to set that tempo.
But it was still far to go after that last climb. The last, I think the last climb was probably still 40 K to go to the finish. And so you don't have any guys left, lucky. Yeah, lucky.
There was also other teams who were, you know, on the, so Movistar started to set the tempo straight away from the bottom of that first climb. Did the damage, Manje, and Milan, and came back. But they got dropped straight away on that second climb
because Movistar did the same and, you know, they were joined by NSN, who were, you know, having their fate in Corbus Strong and Ethan Werner. No, but then still, you know, you still have to make it to the finish, right?
As we say, always Spencer, you know,
βat some point in a ground tour, you always find help, right?β
So it was kind of nice to see that Movistar did the damage, but then they didn't have to do the work anymore afterwards because NSN was doing the work and also EF joined because they had this Estonian champion in the Madez Micals. In there, was also a fast guy when the big sprinters
are not there. And so everything pointed towards a reduced punch sprint. Also, I mean, there was other riders there. Your bent-turner was there, had a flat, so he kind of lost, he came back,
but I think he spent too much energy coming back. And then the problem is that, you know, there is no more team that is really strong enough and can organize, except for, except Visma, but Visma, they had a lot of the guys,
but they had no intention at all to bring everything back. And so the risk is then that there are riders like Alexegrat who try a later tack and succeed. And so it's not easy, I mean, but a guy like Stegrat definitely has the power.
I mean, I'm really happy to see, you know, as a Belgian, a young rider, to succeed. Also, he's from my area, the town, next to where I live in Belgium. And actually, a one, two for Belgium today,
I don't want to sound too patriotic, but... - It's a great opportunity. - It's a great opportunity. - You can't be over here.
(laughing)
But now, yeah, two are to get in second.
Huge, not just 'cause he's Belgian, but super impressive result. If you watch the cyclic cross in the wintertime, that name will be familiar, because he's a cyclic cross rider,
has been a full-time cross rider. And tell you, what did you say the last year, was his first year on the road? - Yeah, I checked actually, last year in the middle of the season,
Spencer in May of 2025, he transferred, like, from his cyclic cross team, which is a pure cyclic cross team, to Lotto. They have a collaboration. And so now he's full-time on Lotto for the road season,
but it's actually his first full season on the road. As far as I remember, the team, he's on as a cyclic cross rider, his whole career, I mean, he's 32 now.
So, or at least the last few years of his career,
it's a typical cyclic cross team, so they do road races, but purely in preparation of the cyclic cross season. So basically they start the race in the month of May, these guys. So really impressive.
βI mean, Tona Arts, I think, is really undervaluedβ
as a road rider. And he's done a few good results already. He's strong, really strong guy. And it's nice to see him up there. I think it's also his first round to wherever.
If I'm not mistaken, so, yeah, it's the proof. Tona Arts is the proof that his, of course, has been a cyclist for a long time,
but it's never too late, it's never too late, you know?
I mean, he's obviously has a huge engine, has been a bit of a cyclist, but purely a cyclic cross rider for a very long time. And now he's on the world to her scene, and today he got second in the stage in the giro.
Nice to see. He had a two year suspension from 2022 to 2024. I kind of forgot about him during that time. And he got a real bum deal. It was some sort of, I think it was a legitimately contaminated supplement.
Yeah, it was a strange, strange substance, which is found in contaminated supplements, or it could be in meat, or he did have, he did get a suspension, a two-year suspension, because the explanations he tried to find were not accepted.
He didn't know himself how the substance got into his system, but it was definitely not a product that would enhance the performance. So, I mean, he was, you know, effectively two years non-active without racing and suspended,
and then to come back like this, yeah, great for him. Interesting, a trace of mounts. Yeah, it is too bad. I kind of forgot about him, he comes back.
I thought it was a different guy named Tune Arts, 'cause then he's on a different, he's on a road team.
βWhy do you think, why did he not switch over to the road for so long?β
He was just enjoying cyclic ross, and then decided to do something different? No, he was a pure cyclic ross, right? And like there are many in Belgium and the Netherlands. You know, like, you know, I mean,
Haley is a bit, I mean, he's now at the stop history, unfortunately, because of an injury. Michael van Tuneaut, your husband, you in house, even house, named him, you know, these Belgians
and Dutch riders who are making a living as a pure cyclic ross specialist. So, Tune Arts was one of them.
I don't know, he just didn't never got the opportunity.
I think he was on, you know, he was for a long time on, that was a track lions, Bolwaz or something, was it a bit of a nice? Yeah, which is also a pure cyclic ross team.
Now what we see, of course, is also, you know, since there are now these new collaborations between those teams. For example, if you look at Tibonais, with Tibonais is racing on the road,
he's on the little track. And when he's racing in the cyclic ross, he's on what, I don't know what it's called now. It's track Bolwaz or it has another name now. I don't remember the name, they changed sponsors,
but it's the typical, you know, pure cyclic ross team. So that's why they do it. But yeah, I mean, Tune Arts, man, it's a huge engine. Big engine, this guy. It shows to the risk of what Molye started.
Molye started as all this work. Christian, your son is not too impressed with our prediction yesterday, because he said, that guy's not going to win. And you know, he was right.
You know what, he was right. He told me yesterday, he said, "Who do you pick?" I said, "Yeah, you know, if it's reduced, "bunch, bring that thing or Luis Olar." He says, "He's not going to win."
I said, "Why?" He said, "I mean, I didn't check." He hasn't won a race in the last two years. So, or Luis Olar has not won a single race since he's on Molye's start,
which, you know, it's kind of difficult then to win a stage in the zero, right? (laughs) - It's a little difficult, yeah. - I mean, especially when you look at this,
sort of outside of Tune Arts in Cigart.
Third place, Thomas, Thomas,
sorry, Guillermo, Thomas Silva. Like, that guy is really good. He's already won a stage at this race and he's still there. Ethan Vernon, still there.
Those are hard guys to be in a sprint like that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
βBut listen, I mean, I think, I think Molye's start tried.β
I mean, they did the right thing. It's a risk, you know, because obviously, if you have a sprinter who can maybe win, but probably they've probably hoped that some of those, I mean, those top five sprinters who were still there,
some of them would not be there. But the risk is there that a guy like Cigart attacks and then, you know, you have nobody left. And I think the attack of Cigart was perfectly planned especially because Visma was pulling.
We were pulling. They were setting the pace basically to keep Jonas out of trouble.
They had absolutely no intention to chase.
It was Victor Copenhart, who was on the front, who was an XT mate of Alex Cigart and they get along really well. Victor went to congratulate him straight after the finish. I don't know if you saw that.
- Yeah, yeah, a little bit of cooking there, perhaps. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But yeah, I mean, they had their job to do. They would keep Jonas out of trouble and they were not gonna chase it down
and it took a very long time. And nobody had any, a man left to chase him down. And then if, okay, if it's another rider, you can say maybe he's gonna die towards the finish, but not a guy like Cigart,
and he just kept his speed and, yeah, super nice wind for him. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's driving the atmosphere in Bahrain. - No, yeah.
And they get the time bonuses. Ooh, L'Alio. A Fanzo U'L'Alio, the race leader,
Spencer had get six second time bonus
Ben O'Connor, kind of heads up, move. Chases out from gets four seconds. So they get a time bonus, they extend their race lead. They have the jersey for probably losing on Saturday. - Yeah, they win a stage.
I mean, it is, you could tell when they were interviewing the Bahrain staff, just how excited they were, that has to be good vibes inside the team.
β- Spencer, success is contagious in a ground tour.β
You know what I mean? It's like, everybody's on cloud nine right now. And, you know, everything seems to work. It's, as we said, as I say many times, the second part of ground tour is there's a lot,
a lot of mental struggle and a lot of, I mean, it's, it's very different. If you suffer for a reason, or if you suffer just because you are in the race and you have to follow
the incredible pace that other teams impose on you,
it's very different, the kind of suffering. - So I just have a few questions for you. Little speed round. Saigard's career has turned around. The guys having the career of his life
is this related to us meeting him on the road in the office and on the training ride. - It's hard to say, potentially, we could be really different. - Yeah, we did meet him in December, right? - Yeah.
- He was saying, well, I know he was still in a lot of clothing, lot of clothing, but on a Bianchi bike already. I see him remember. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, listen, he's, he definitely wanted to move away from, from Bloto. His brother, his brother is a trainer. - Yeah. - He was for Bloto, right?
- He was on Lotto, he left two years ago. - Okay. - And now he's back together with his brother. So I'm gonna guess his brother is his trainer. That's nice.
But anyways, at the core of the success, it's first of all, the big talent and the big engine that Alex Seigard has, I would say. - Probably, probably, that's related to it. And here's another, just speaking of odd things
that I don't really understand. So the breakaway goes, it's a nice, it's a perfect breakaway for the Peloton for a day like today. So it all quicks up and Univette are chasing.
Like Napoleon, the gap back down,
βVisma goes up and says, well, what are you guys doing?β
Why are you doing this? They keep pulling. They, they reel it in with a hunch, okay, to go, there's now more attacks. You would imagine this is making the race harder
for their sprinters who should be trying to go as easiest possible for the climb. Why is this happening? Is our team just desperate? - Well, I think, I think, it's not necessarily harder
for the sprinters, I think, because on the flat terrain, that's not gonna make a big difference. But, and then, if I think if the breakaway would still have had more time, at the bottom of that first climb,
I think, Movis Star would have done what they were planning to do anyway. Don't think it would make it a lot of difference, but I think it, I mean, it shows that they had confidence that these guys could make it.
And, and, you know, they did come back after the first climb, which was the longest climb. Milan came back and, and, man, yeah, came back.
We don't know if they can never make it back.
But, but I was surprised Spencer and, you know, not so much that they were chasing in the beginning, but I was surprised to see that after, on the second climb, where one year really got, was struggling, and he was fighting so hard,
and he made it over that climb, like, within 40 seconds, which he would say is still doable, right? It was still 40 kilometers, he was not by himself. It was with, there was two teammates with him, off Sudahl quick step, and there was Milan,
and a teammate at least, and then there was,
βI think, two or three guys from picnic post,β
and now, with Lund. But, with, one, you didn't know. - Very good, yeah.
- One, you didn't.
- So, and then I looked into the peloton, and I saw Jasper Styven and Fabio von Limboch still sitting in that peloton. So, I was surprised to not see them drop back, because, you know, I mean, if you go for your sprinter,
it's all in, right? You know, you don't have to keep a guy up there to maybe have a shot at the win, because it was good. I mean, Styven is fast.
On Limboch is not slow either, that's true. But, they were faster guys than them there. So, I would, I mean, I would expect that those two guys were, we should have been told to drop back and just all or nothing, you know, like Chase,
like crazy, to bring them back.
At that point, I mean, finally, they didn't make it,
βbut at that point, I think it was doable,β
still with those 40 seconds. And so, yeah, I think track had, a little track had, we did a half, they had, yeah, they had one rider. I think so, but it'll, Chicone was there.
I don't think he could win the stage. So, he could have dropped back. Their G was the only guy should have stayed in there, but then maybe they don't wanna leave their G by himself and gaze there's a problem with the bike.
So, Chicone had to stay there. I mean, it's easy to say now, right? But especially in, in respect to, Sudokwik's tip, I thought that Stephen and Vandenbosha should have been told to wait and try at least
to make it back with money.
But finally, Stephen finishes his fifth in the stage,
I think, you know, so it's not bad, but I think it was worth the gamble to, you know, play all or nothing with money, another weird thing about money, he said he dropped his,
βhe threw his bottles away at the bottom of the climbβ
and it was hot, it was like 27 degrees. And then he's like, yeah, I was pretty thirsty. Climb, it's like, yeah, dude, keep those bottles. Like, what do they teach in these kids these days, one of those bottles, man?
We think that they had, I mean, if that's the plan, then normally they should have had people on the top of the climb stuff with bottles. That's the way, I mean, they, they might have had them on the top though,
and then he wanted a little sip on the way up. It was a long climb, but I guess by only pushback on that, and I do think it's weird that kept those guys there. I don't really understand that, but the pace was so high that Ben took Ben turn of flats, and he's not,
you know, they're chasing him in J.K., and then they drop back a second guy to chase, and they're like 20 meters behind, and they can't catch on. So for money and Milan,
βit would happen, and even if they get back on,β
or they show gased, scene gas has been turned or set up to the stage that they have nothing left to give. That, I mean, I was shocked at how hard that was coming into the finish, and then you had to cone over it. The tacky, and maybe it just wasn't a day,
for those guys, I agree, a little weird that you have, I kept seeing a storyman on the back, thinking, why aren't they dropping them back? What do they do on here? At that wraps up, I mean,
here's another off the wall question. Should Movistar just have done the late attack, like a wide pace at all, with who, who are here? There's not, who are you? Who are you?
- They all are, you know, maybe with Milesey. - Milesey, well, he's the same kind of type of writer as SIGARt, you know, like, I mean, actually, when Milesey won the junior World Championships time trial, second was Alex SIGARt.
- Yeah, there you go. - The same type of writer, but yeah, I mean, listen to me. I think you have to try, but yeah, it was gonna be a hard call to win with all our. - We should say, Inrit Maslow can good.
Not like, not great for him in GC, obviously, but two days in a row where it's really good.
- Never looked you in a lot better than in the week one, for sure.
- Yeah, well, let's take a quick break, and then I have a fun little GC fact for you and we'll preview the next stage. So Johan, now much of a GC story today, I mean, really wishes today for the stage hunters,
Ulaulu. - In terms of, in terms of GC Spencer, sorry, didn't interrupt, but now I find it quite, we're not surprising, but telling that, you know, the big favorites, they did not even try to, you know,
the value of the six, O'Connor took the four seconds. Yeah, it shows you how confident they are. (laughs) - I know, yeah. - O'Connor is not a podium contender.
- Well, are we sure about that? - I think so, I think so. I mean, O'Connor, do not write him off for podium.
I mean, he's been on the podium already in several grand tours.
I think, yeah, like recently.
I mean, the thing about O'Connor, though, is four seconds probably is not gonna, 'cause he's in competition with Orangeman Gaul. Inly, that's probably not gonna make a break of podiums, but probably. - Yeah.
β- So, that's what for don't, nice, it's not.β
- But Ulaulu, I mean, he is, he's now two or three in front of Orangeman, two, 30 in front of Gaul, two, 50 in front of O'Connor, three, 12 in front of Jai Hindley. And the last time we saw them,
he outclimbed all of them except Gaul and Orangeman. So, I don't know, I'd be kind of worried about it. - Yeah. - What's the evidence that he's coming back on these climbs? I think Jonas is probably not too stressed,
but outside of Jonas, I would be, I don't know. I'm curious to see what he does. I don't think he's gonna fall apart. - I think what we need to see is how he's gonna perform once he's out of the jersey.
- Yeah. - He's on a high now, he's in trance.
Everything's nice, everything's never set better.
Everything looks pink. He looks pink, it's like spectacles now. - The flip side of that is, Jonas has been the guard who looks miserable and blue. The most unhappy bluishers that I've ever seen.
So I know what he likes to wear that. It's not a nice jersey actually. - No, it's not. It looks terrible.
β- And I think he's probably doing all this extra stuffβ
after every stage, 'cause he's in that classification lead, but he is obsessively, obsessively at the front. I don't know if he knows this. He's always in front of his team, and there's no, there's fortunately.
- There's usually one rider of the team in front of him and then everybody else behind him. - Yeah, I mean, he's dialed in. He's not messing around in the last half of this shirt of Tia.
But someone pointed this out to me on Instagram. There's four Australians in the top 10 over all right now. So almost half of the top 10, Beno Conner, Jay Hindley, Michael Store, Chris Harper, and three of them, fifth, sixth, and seventh,
though Conner Hindley and Store are from the same town from Perth. - Okay. - Yeah, I go to the odds of that.
- That's the first for sure.
- Yeah, like Perth, you wouldn't really think of that as being cycling central, I think. - Remember this guy, Jack Bobberidge? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
β- Huge talent, huge talent, I think he was from Perth.β
- Yeah. - That's some personal issues outside of that. But let's preview tomorrow's stage. Probably also not a GC stage. It is 189 kilometers.
We are going into Filippo Gana's hometown. Next to Lake Majore. I believe it's another one. There's a really tricky stage, probably to ride. To try to win and predict, it's flat-ish rolling to flat
with some bumps until 160 kilometers into the stage. We get a cat four climb. Then, 172 kilometers into the stage, we get a cat three climb. That is quite hard.
The last two K of this climb are over 10% average. We'll probably see something similar to stage two with GC moves and I assume the race will be one there, probably from the breakaway. And then you have a 12K descent down into the finish.
Johan, how's this going to play out? And who's going to win it? - Yeah, I mean, it's a very special stage. As you say, the last climb is hard. It's impossible for sprinters to make it over there.
It is, I would say, similar to the stage that Sylva won. Where we saw on a tack of Johan's on that climb. They were only three guys. It was played Zaddy and Van Aithwell. By the way, it did not start this morning
because of the crash of yesterday. And then, we had these 20, 30 riders come back and it was reduced uphill sprints, right? Could be the same tomorrow, although I think that a breakaway does make a chance.
It's a flat beginning. It's quite flatish until the real climbing starts. Sprintersteams won't work tomorrow, that's for sure. 'Cause they know that their sprinter won't make it over that steep two kilometer in the end of the last climb.
So, it depends how far the breakaway is gone. And then it depends on which team really believes and wants to work for their puncher who could eventually either make it over the climb and sprint from a very small group or get away
on that last climb. I mean, typically, I would say, there's the two main guys who could do this in this race, it's probably Jonathan Narvice and Jolocicone in my opinion. The question is, how much power do they have left
In the team to control a breakaway?
And also, in terms of UAE, for example,
it's clear that Narvice is an incredible form.
How hard do they really want to try?
βAnd, you know, if you want to control the break,β
you need, meaning you need at least three riders. I would say, they have Michael Bjerg, and then they have Ariyata, they have Kristen Narvice, and who else do they have?
He said Ariyata, Kristen Bjerg. Arvice, Morgano. - How much time? - How much time? - Okay, so they do have, okay. Looking at that team, they do have the power
to do it. But they gonna need to be joined by another team. In this case, it would probably be a two guys
from a little freck who can ride on the flat.
In that case, if it's UAE and a little trek together, the break away to can probably be kept on the control. So, I think, yeah, I think Narvice is a candidate in Chikone.
βI think those are the two main favoritesβ
to win the stage tomorrow. If it's not, if there's a really big battle between the GC guys on that last four kilometer climb, then it's gonna be Jonas and Felix Gal, and Raleo, they're not gonna drop him tomorrow.
Aransman, what we saw already on that two kilometer steep part on stage two, this is harder because there's a lot more tired guys. - Yeah, you know, a break away can make it. I think if it depends on the motivation
and the will of teams like UAE and the little trek, and maybe even a star like Scaroni is probably a straw, I mean, he did crash yesterday, but he was strong in the final, he came back. So, Scaroni would probably be one of the guys also
do look for tomorrow. - Yes, Caroni's a really good pick. The odds are Narvice plus 350 is on draft Kings. Chikone plus 900, Ghana plus 900, Thomas Silva plus 1600, who lower plus 1600,
stoven plus 1600, Ben Turner plus 1800, young Kristen plus 2000, I don't hate that one. Corbin strong plus 2500, Scaroni plus 2500. The Scaroni, when I do like quite a lot, we should say do Diego Ulyce,
who climbed really well yesterday plus 3000, Michael Wagner plus 3000, the Alisi one, Scaroni, super interesting, on the same team, I believe, on Estana, the question you want is, would you rather control a break away
if you were UAE for 160K, or would you rather just be in the break away? - Well, the problem right now, Spencer, it's not a vice, for example, is, I mean, it's gonna have to be some of the odds that not a vice.
If not a vice, it's in the break. Who in their right mind are gonna collaborate with? - Well, with Scaroni think I can drop them on the climb. - I don't think so. People, people, I mean, I thought the break away formation
was so weird today. I just don't know if, I think there's some desperation. Controlling it for UAE would be tough. Probably is the safer move, because then our bias drops every time.
It doesn't. - These kind of stages are sometimes different, I mean, they're difficult to predict. And sometimes you see things that we will say tomorrow, why is this team doing this, right?
βBut at the same time, you have to think,β
there are not so many possibilities anymore to win a stage, because there's two for sure, a bunch of prints for sure. And then there's what there's still four mountain stages left, I guess.
- Yeah. - You know, so that's six stages. So we have tomorrow's stage 13,
there's four stages, three stages left basically,
to try something, and tomorrow is one of them. So whoever wants to have a shot at a stage win, and they're not in the break, we can see some of those teams actually do desperate things in the race that we said it, why?
We don't understand, but at the same time, it kind of makes sense, because there's not many chances for stage wins. The problem with controlling the break and trying to win from the Peloton is how do you
not get dropped by a unit spin record? - Yeah, exactly, yeah. - So the last 3K of the climb are 9% average, too.
That's why it's basically, I think what I want to say
is that if there's a break on the foot,
and so what is it, it's like a hundred and 40K, right,
βor the real first climb, I think it's 160 exactly.β
- Okay, so, if you're not in the break, you still, I mean, if you're not in there, and you wanna have a shot at a stage, you still have to try to bring the break back to provoke another break, and have some of the in there.
Like later in the stage, in between moves, so I'm pretty sure tomorrow we're gonna see scenarios like this that we don't understand, but that's probably why they're gonna do it, because they're starting to be desperate to win a stage.
- I'm gonna do Nerviahs in the break away, plus 350. - Okay.
- I guess there's no, that beauty of Nerviahs
is there's no guarantee that you own a stage away, we're on stage two, we get caught, outsprinted, maybe the same thing happens, I doubt it, but say those names again, Spencer, so we have Nerviahs, Chicona, who else?
- Ghana, a home. - Ghana, gotta be only, 'cause it's his hometown, he's not gonna stay with the group on that group. - He's gonna be difficult to be there on that steep part, although a shorter effort he could probably be here.
β- You would have to catch back on, 'cause it is an important note.β
- The climb, do you know who I think can win tomorrow, Spencer? Bentonor, can win tomorrow, interesting. - Yeah, from the breaker, from the peloton. - From the, from the group, like being there
and coming back and winning in the sprint. - Yeah, that's interesting, could happen. So there's a kilometer of rolling terrain before the descent. So if you're Ghana, if you're been Turner, that helps you,
'cause it's not, you're not just going over the climb, drop and down, there's a little bit of power terrain there. Bentonor is at, is he even on the board? - Oh, yeah, plus 1800, that's pretty good.
So you're going to Scoroni, plus 2,000, plus 2,500, been Turner, plus 1800. - Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm gonna go in our bias and Scoroni. Yon Christ before we leave, Yon Christen,
do we see him or is he, he's just, he's at a rhythm 'cause of the crash. - He seems to be struggling, but he did go down
βpretty hard also, I don't remember which stage,β
but I don't think so.
You almost never see guys that look off like that,
come back, especially young guys, come back in the form. And what do we see today? You called it, who was dropped first? My name was dropped before Ghana. So we're starting to see a four experience.
- Four million, four million. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, got it, got it was dropped. - Yeah, earlier, earlier, earlier, earlier. - And I like Milan does, you know, he does have the endurance and the end the engine.
That's, you know, anyways, I think Manye had still did well. I mean, he fought for it. He was dropped quite a bit earlier than Milan and still made it straight away back into the group of Milan.
So that was a good effort. - There was even a point where the Manye dropped everybody except Milan on the descent. It's like, I don't know where you go in there. Let's just stay in the group, guys.
What are we doing? But it shows you, they really like that's a panic move, thinking I can get back on, I can do it. So he did believe that he could get back on, but Yon Christen,
we'll let you go, we'll be back to mile for stage 13 and then we'll be previewing stage 14 to two. It'll be a big stage. Okay, thanks, Ben. - Okay, bye.
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