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Another time to Eric Decker lost to both of them in the sprint. We didn't finish here.

“But they were still, they were, they deserve to win.”

With this version, finishing on top, I mean, it would take you such an extreme scenario where the best man, the best man didn't win. I mean, Remco, Renable, won today. He was the, by far the strongest rider in the race. He deserved to win any one. And so, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I like watching bike races where the best man wins. Okay, everybody, welcome back to the move podcast, talking about the 2026 Am Still Gold Race. Let me tell you, I loved this race. Such, I mean, such, such a great race. The people are great. The course while it has changed over the years is just such a, it's a very hard race, very technical.

Often times, whether it can play a factor, certainly win, can play a factor. They had a version of this race in the 1998 World Championships that I did. Just a great race in such a cool part of Holland fun, fun, fun what to do back in the day. And a fun one to watch joined by Spencer Martin over there. I was bolder than I was bolder than I was being bolder than I did. Got a brace lifestyle when you're here, but I have some tea down. That's the coffee shop and your horn, Brineau, where are you? You're in Madrid, right? I'm in Madrid.

All right, all right, how are you? Pretty good? Pretty good. Okay, you look at fit. I'm training man. I need, we still have, I still have my challenge on with Spencer. You know what, restarted it, January. You have no chance. Who? You, well, I saw it myself. You wanted us to entertain our week two weeks two, not to just make you see. Yeah, no, he can't handle the gravel, too. I wanted last year against Spencer and then I'm all the way to winning again. Well, just a mileage for the year, kilometers, total kilometers and a year.

Oh, okay. You're on his putting it in the kilometers, my board.

“Do you guys remember when you'd make fun of me for riding on too much? No, you guys, like, have the most mileage.”

And I'm riding probably less than any one of you guys now. And what I want to talk in is the star of the show, George and Kathy. George, welcome. Thank you. Great to see you, Lance. Tell us why you loved Amsterdam so much as opposed to, I know you always did well in the edge. You did flanners with me a couple of times, but why, why, I'm so. Well, outside of the, yeah, well, I guess to start when people think about Holland, as, as I did for, for many, many years, you think of this country that's just completely flat.

And, and of course, there's always wind all over the country, but you just think of these, you know, the canals and the bike paths and, and Amsterdam and, and a place that's just pancake flat.

And then you get to this part, this little corner of the Netherlands, which is the, the Limburg region, which actually isn't that far from the edge where we'll be next weekend, or the Ardens, as they are known, and it's very, very hilly. And the roads are narrow. You have to be in position. Of course, nowadays, I can't recall the last time we did a spring classic in the rain, just just watching on TV. But that was always the assumption 20 years ago, it's like, well, we know a couple things.

We know it's going to be hilly, we know it's going to be windy, and we know it's going to be raining. So we have to, it just makes the fight for position to, you know, to be at the front before these really tough climbs, because they're, they're very narrow. So if it's, if you're not at the front, you know, it's just very difficult. So I loved that. Also, it, it was just starting in Johan, you'll, you'll know where I'm going here.

“It was, it's just that time of year where it's, and I think we actually even described it as this.”

Over the years where that was sort of the first checkpoint. That's the first test. Yeah, like where are we, where, where's, are we competitive, are we on track for July? It was just, and it helps that it's a race that you really want to do, because you can have these checkpoints at places that you don't have a connection to.

But that was always the first one.

And for whatever reason, I just always enjoyed this really great relationship with the Dutch people.

This was his 30th edition of the race. This 30th and final edition. He's now stepping down Tom Dumoulin is taking over. He was always lovely. Um, congratulations to him for having just a great career. Really building a race that, you know, this is not when you think about cycling.

“And you think about the monuments. And you think about the spring classics, right?”

Of course, you've got San Ramon, you've got flanders in Rebe and Leigh Edge. And then this one is almost in a way been the red headed stepchild. But it's become a classic. It's, it's, it's, it's that special. It has all the makings of a classic.

Of course, through the years had had incredible winners through the, the Dutch glory years. And the, not just from the writers perspective, but from the teams going all the way back to, to PDM and Buckler and Robo Bank. And this was, this was there. They had to win this race. Now, that is a suspect no longer the case. But boy, this was the second biggest race on the calendar for them.

And, and some could argue maybe the biggest.

I don't know. It was just, I always, I always, I always loved doing it.

I always got excited for it. And fun to watch. I mean, and not, you know, of course, the course has changed over the years. As has, as have many of these. It's still kept its character. It's still damn hard. You still have to be in position.

I love to finish up the Calburg.

“Like I think that's, you know, in many ways, you want them.”

I mean, they, they copied a little bit of the, the flanders model. Flanders, of course, you have the old quorum on. We're going to go over this numerous times. We're going to set up this, this experience at the finish. And they did that with the Calburg.

Um, guys, the same. I mean, if you look at the people on the coming. Already in just before that corner, then all the way up. It's, it's the natural arena, right? They, I think the Calburg, they do it three times in the race. If I'm not mistaken.

Yes. So, yeah, I mean, that atmosphere there is crazy. I mean, I remember when I was a psychiatrist, but then also being there with you lands in the final of the race. I mean, the noise when you get what you have cornered. It was crazy.

Yeah. And it's standing there. Yep. And here's the other thing. And now with that set up.

“And then, and I think it's, look, I never, I finished second twice.”

One time to Michael Bogard. Another time to Eric Decker lost to both of them in the sprint. We didn't finish here. But they were still, they were, they deserve to win. With this version, finishing on top.

I mean, it would take just such an extreme scenario where the best man didn't win. I mean, Remco went up all one today. He was the by far the strongest rider in the race. He deserved to win any one. And so, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I like watching bike races where the best man went.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I think maybe people were a bit, I mean, at least the Belgian fans, you know, like, got messages from people during the race. Yeah, Remco was going to leave, you know, he's going to go by himself. That didn't happen.

He did the majority of the work. Once the three guys were away, but I think, as we said many times, you know, when you, especially when you're two guys in the break, you know who's the strongest. And it was clear for me during the race, but then also confirmed after the race, in the interview of Scalmoza that he knew he had no chance.

Yeah.

He was happy with second.

And, you know, he had settled for second already. So I don't know if Remco, if they had talked, if there was an agreement. Yeah, Remco didn't really need to drop him because he's more explosive. Because a little bit of conversation, I don't know if he noticed that a little bit of back and forth at the start of the final time of the Calburg.

And I'm just sitting there going, what they're saying. But then I kind of thought about it. I know exactly what they're saying. He's almost a fan. I'm fucked.

Don't worry. I'm happy to get second or some version of this like. I'm gonna go look great. I mean, and in one could say, and of course we were in this pattern of going, why would anybody pull with poker jar?

Just sit on the wheel. This is not that situation. No. And Remco knew exactly what was going to happen there.

And Scalmoza probably pretty dang happy to get second.

I agree. I mean, he won last year. He was still there. I said he grew up watching these races as a kid. So he's going to be there in the long city at the final.

I think it was still a huge success for him today. Well, yeah, big, big result for him.

But his back's kind of against the wall in that team.

You know, they brought in someone to do his job, which is never great.

When you're a GC rider and they spend a ton of money to bring in a GC rider, that they think is better than you.

“I think he probably didn't sit that well with him.”

Yo Han. And I think today was a big statement saying, hey, I won this race last year. That second today. Like, I'm still the man in this team. He was there, man.

I mean, listen, he was, he was, I think the moment Ramko went, I actually Gregoir went first. No, in that Ramko. Yeah, it's up over. And then Ramko dropped Gregoir smartly, right?

Because he's so fat. And he came. Scalmoza came from, like, fifth, sixth position. So he went up. You could see he was on a good day.

He was on a really, he was. He was on the limit, but he was not really. I don't think he was ever in trouble of on a, or about to get dropped. And you know what? I mean, the fact that straight away he took the decision that whatever he could,

“whenever he could, he did his share of the work.”

That was me that he was settling for second.

And it's a great result. I mean, listen. If you win the year before, there were, I've seen some interviews from people. By the way, you, you, you, one of your, you're, you're good friends. George, politically there said that track should, little track should definitely

forget about scale moza. He had no chance in this race. And that they should gamble on, who was it on Craig Anderson. Who happens by the way in the race. You know, these are the little things that motivate somebody.

And he showed he was there. You know, he, he, he was, he wanted last year. Today he was the second best of the race. Well, I mean, if you go on, just can't help himself. I'm just saying what I read.

Well, I mean, I feel like these days. I know, it's got me. So, so competitive, so important. Like you're on the podium of a world cup race.

“It's still a big deal for, for these teams, even though he won't last year.”

And you could see, you know, people just think that these guys just arrived there in that position. But we all know from firsthand experience how difficult it actually is. The positioning about all the thousands of corners in an absolute goal race. The small, tiny roads. How dangerous there are.

We unfortunately saw, you're going to have a terrible crash. Hopefully he's okay, but he laid there for a while. And I mean, they could just, you could just lose the whole race in one little slide like we saw those guys. I mean, if anybody just is really, really bored on, and I mean, anybody listening. I'm not asking anybody on the show here to do it.

But if anybody listening, sitting in home just has absolutely nothing to do. Go find one of the riders, strawberry files from today, just zoom in, count the turns. It's, especially towards the end. It is turn after turn after turn. Didn't seem as stressful today.

Maybe the, maybe the lacquer rain was there. The field seemed a little thin. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But it's also, it's also the speed lines.

I mean, you know, like for, for me, for example, I mean, I, I do have flashbacks of back in the days where we said,

I, you know, positioning and the whole bunch going to a critical point did not happen today.

You know, it's, it's so fast. I mean, if you look at the average speed, I mean, 43 kilometers average. And it's 3,400 meters of elevation. Wow. I mean, it's like there, there is no more fighting for position because the moment they get there, they're all dead.

I mean, there's, there's 10 guys that can still go. We saw one acceleration and that was it. Yeah. Let me just, let me just, let me just, sorry, y'all. Let me just, for, for the folks who don't think in meters or kilometers.

That's 11,000 feet of total vert with an average speed of a approaching 27 miles an hour. Mm-hmm. 26 hours. For six hours. A lot of them, that was a very big difference.

27 miles an hour. Sorry, yeah. This World Cup, we saw San Remo. Fit to kit worth 30 K to go. There's four guys, three guys.

We saw, you know, planners, one by one by one with already 40 K to go. We saw Rubé was done with 80 K to go essentially. But here, we still have essentially a Peloton with 55 K to go, which is the one difference. Even though it's super hard, like the riders are still there working together. We're working for their teammates.

So it's different in that sense that riders can stay together a lot longer in this race than, you know, the cobblestone races and the chipperists, for instance. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, I mean, we should also shout out y'all and try to make.

Man, he said that thing up. It wasn't a lot of drama going into these corners because Red Bull shredded this race. And then we needed one acceleration George mentioned. Meto, Jorgensen crashing. There was a five rider group that made it clear with Kevin Baklan, Roman Regoir, Jorgensen, Evan and Paul Schelmosa.

And Johan do you think the race is any different if they don't crash out or is Rimko

winning this no matter what? I wouldn't have been different, yeah.

“I mean, because I think Jorgensen, there was a goal for him.”

I think he came there and really good shape came from the, from altitude training on the data. Baklan is obviously also a rider that this race seems him well. So it could have been different. I don't know if it would have been a different winner. I don't think so.

I think Ramko quality wise is still a little bit ahead of those guys. Although, we have to say Jorgensen when he won Pyrenees. He did beat Ramko even a poor rider. Yeah. But hey, I mean, Baklan looked like he got back up on his bike.

Jorgensen stayed on the on the ground, looked like shoulder or collarbone. Jorgensen had an information. You know, and for that Pyrenees, he was there for a while. But they did look good. Well, I mean, they replayed the crash on on the coverage I was watching.

I mean, that's does not look good. And he stayed down. Yeah. He just didn't get, I mean. Classic collarbone.

I mean, when they replayed it, there was nothing to break the fault. It was, he was on the bike. And then he was on a shoulder. Like just, yeah.

“It looked like a, which of course, it's still common in the sport.”

But I saw that out. Not, you know, for sure, he's not getting back up. And then you start to be concerned with, with time off the bike. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I guess it was just collarbone. Those guys come back and like come back. But, but we're sitting here watching a race thinking he's going to be a fact. I did think about that. I'm just thinking about that group though.

I mean, to beat, that's an exclusive group. A double pair of pair of knees when a Rimko having a pull. She almost a defending champion, Greg Warr and Vucklorn. And that, that's it, right? It 42 K to go.

Like there's not, and to think about the winner. Rimko having a pull is the, the last person that's not. Rimko Vanderpool, Woutvinar to Porgotcha to win a major one day race. She's almost the last year. And then before that,

I hope so, and it's in Rimko, it's the same guys every time because he races is hard. Yeah. And let's not forget the season that all the momentum that Visma has right now. And also any else, I mean, they want to turn races this year. So in their minds that they're in that, they made that final selection.

They have perhaps a lot less pressure from their team. But they have a ton of motivation with the way how well their team is performed throughout the year. So they were, in my opinion, in a definitely a winning situation until the crash for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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“Yeah, I would also shout out to Benwack, wasn't it?”

What a race. I mean, he finished third, but so he missed the initial break. I think he might not know he went to UAE. Oh, yeah. He did.

And he was already really good on Friday and Flash Bravo on some.

It was second in this race a few years ago.

Photo finished with Michael Keatkovsky, if you guys remember. Yeah. But he did all the work. And there was this one. There's other French writer from EF who gave him some turns.

Now and then, but he did everything. Everybody else is sitting sitting sitting on. And finally, he went to sprint for third. I mean, two minutes down. So I think that also shows you the difference between those two writers.

And the rest, but still a great third place for him after doing all the work in the back. Yeah. And UAE just can't help themselves.

Like in the best way, I'm not deep.

They've actually been in a slump for UAE's normal performance. Like any of those closing in on them on the win rankings. That's I'd sound heard of in recent years. Well, don't they have like 10 guys out? Yeah.

Yeah, they have like a lot of. Yeah, a lot of the key class, guys. Yeah. The interest at Remko's interview at the end. One thing stood out.

They asked him about, they asked him, obviously asked him. If he was going to do the edge, which he pretended to be on the fence. We're thinking that's not the case. Yeah. The interview, I don't know if they were talking about flesh or anything.

Yeah, she's doing. Okay, well, what was interesting.

Was the entry of Paul Sashas already in this conversation, because it was being built as this three man battle between Remko,

Poguchar and now. Paul Sashas like this this kid overnight, not overnight. But in a year is is can and you guys have all the numbers. To back this up, apparently this is. Is the real deal Holyfield.

But that was. He's in the conversation boom. Yeah, he's yeah. What is what he did to pay the ask? I mean, just incredible.

Poguchar is. He toyed with everybody. He did whatever he wanted. And then, you know, there's obviously the data also. I guess this the one the one statistic.

“I think we all hang on to Spencer is this climb.”

He did. When he won that race in France there in the beginning of the season and he did a few seconds slower than Poguchar on the same climb. What was it? Seven. More than seven.

Yeah, I was planning that. I have a pulled up right here. Seven is yeah, 16 minute climb. He drew up and strong guys like Mateo Jorgensen and Lenny Martinez again. Shout out the back like the juniors.

This is a teenager. By the way, 7.2 watts per kilo on this climb. This was 40 k from the finish. He's soloed to the finish. Increasing his gap that whole time.

That's scary. Folks, if you're a GC rider out there. You don't want to see that. Yeah. Yeah.

Scoring that not only that the numbers are scary, but to be able to continue on on the flat. The downhill and the flat. And not show any weakness there is even more scarier. Yeah.

“But it's not racing with three minutes, I think.”

You know what? You know what? Listen. However, I mean, I know it's to your points, Vincent. It's scary if you're a GC rider who doesn't want to say it another way.

If you are a couch potato like all of us. Oh, baby. This is good. Yeah, it is. Like let's go.

I agree. May not be this summer. But it's next summer. Yeah, we have to, I think we have to wait. You know, there's a lot of debate.

You know, obviously his friend, she's on a French team. He's gone. He's gone to do the tour de France, right? This year. Personally, I think it's a mistake to send him already to the tour.

I would send him to the Vuelta with, you know, a full team around him. Super support and see where he gets in three weeks. He, for sure, he wants to go to the tour. It seems to me that he is already the guy calling the shots in the team. So he will go to the tour.

But I think we should give him some, you know, be a bit patient because, I mean, France is crazy now about it. I mean, even though there's these discussions of him maybe leaving the team after his, the end of his contract in 2007. French president Macron had jumped in and made a statement that he once

him to stay on a French team. I mean, it, it, there's a lot going on. He's still 19 years old guys.

And they're talking about tensile eight million euro contract.

“That's what, what his agent is asking for, 2028.”

That's proud. He is, he's a great cyclist. But let's, let's not burn the necessary steps. I'm curious to see what he can do in three weeks. I'm sure he's going to be fine.

I think we should also point out the present, too. Historically, if you do a full gas San Remo, full gas planners, full gas rebate, you're not going to be that great in Lee as best only as now. We're talking about a freaking nature and public charge. Yes, we're great.

But technically speaking, Sajos is a much better preparation with pay-bask. He'll be caught, you know, the hilly stage race for next weekend. So if they're in fact kind of close, you might want to put your money on. So because of the lead-up to that race.

Shit, you can be completely exhaustive for two weeks.

“Obviously the top of my poetry are completely different.”

Absolutely, but. We've got you are made in a small adjustment span. George, he skipped Amstall, which was. Yeah, he made me as his least strong race because he went. He went, he got real back in, didn't win.

I think it was already crazy, too. You know, to do the do some rainbow flanders, Ruben and then still be in the win for Amstall. That's very rarely seen because they completely different kind of riders. I think with two weeks. I'm not, I've no doubts.

But we're actually going to be on. I mean, I hope I hope Sajos is close. I mean, he was, I mean, we were there. But we were there, George. We're on the Bianca.

He was the last guy hanging on the car on that climb. But. Yeah, Lee as is different. It's a monument. You know, it's 260 something kilometers different.

Different. And does, does Jonas race? No. No. No.

Yeah. It's too smart for that.

Well, yeah, I mean, and he keeps.

You see the story about it. Everybody up in arms because he was in. Tenor Eve. Training with no socks on and. And they're like a speaker on his bike.

Box on his bike. And these people. These fucking bike nerds are just like, "Oh, you can do that." I was like, shut up.

Shut up. Shut up. You want some actually shut up. When you win the Tour of France a couple of times and ride like that, you do whatever you want. Okay.

Shut up. Not just won the Tour of the Pagotter of the Tour. Yeah. I mean, I saw that done that. I saw the clip.

I'm sure.

“I think it was subconsciously posted it up with the.”

You know, I was like, yeah, baby. He was filming me. Yeah. I don't know him at all. Personally, but I'm convinced.

He could not care less about people. Yeah. The guy just does his whole thing. I ride. I often not often.

But from time to time. Fairly often. Right. But no socks. Let me tell you something.

Feels good. Because I'm not. Especially if you live in a hot place like here in Austin. Do it. Feels good.

Like whatever. Full triangle. Look. I love it. All right.

P the show. I feel sorry for Anna when you put them. Yeah. Yeah. I just.

I mean, we got. We got Raj. These guys ride with ankle socks, right? I mean, they're not. They're not riding with no socks.

They're right. No, I'm not. Well, then he's not done it right. I don't care about the speaker. I think although the choice of music.

What? But just do it with no socks. Feels so good. It was. Was it.

Was it. It was last year in the 200. All of a sudden showed up with ankle socks like. Yeah. Yeah.

In this age to. Uh, what was it? Uh. We're put out. I hope that one that one stage where I've got you.

Yeah. The odor comes stage. But yeah. You want you. So it is a it's different.

Right. It's a monument next week. Leage. Long. Yes.

Paul State. Charles has done well in monuments. You know, top 10 at Lombard. He lost. It wasn't even a full process in 30 European championships.

13th that world championships. Rod race 270 K long as a hard race and he was following. We got you. When you attack. So I wouldn't automatically ride him off just because he's young.

Yeah. Yeah. And that case. But do we think. What?

What? What? What? What? What?

How do we think Rampco Avenue pulled us today's winner? Next week at Leage. Um, I personally think he's going to be good. But he's no match for. Poor.

I mean, today. He was the big favorite. The best quality rider. Logic has been respected. He won.

But I don't think that this performance of Rampco is up there with the level of. Poor. Especially, not only at Boston. I don't think so.

“The only thing that's a lot different compared to last year for Rampco is.”

But last year, first of all, he started really late because he had that crash. And broke his shoulder. And I think Leage was his third or fourth race of the season. Not that that matters anymore nowadays. But he was completely out of position.

He was on his own. Like he started. Larredoot in 48 position. This is not going to happen this year with the team he has. He's going to be brought to the bottom of Larredoot.

And good position. That's going to that changing obviously great motivation now.

The morale must be incredible after today's win.

But I think I think. I think. I have more gears. I'm going to disagree with you. I'm going to just just for the sake of anticipation and excitement.

I think the way we're we're seeing, you know, guys actually starting to be. Poor guys. I was like.

We're pulling for a pull for pull for him when we're in break ways.

Maybe they kind of sandbag and not pull as much now and just. Think more about getting to the finish line faster. Rem close have a really good build up to this week. And I'm sure this week is super important for us. We just saw today.

And then we have a safe sauce in the mix.

“So I think it's going to be quite interesting.”

And hopefully. Pogatrad is not just right away from them. And we have a really exciting finish. Like we've seen in the last couple. Yeah.

Do you want to show you all? God bless you. Yeah, bless. It's a quick big big. Today was a big like things circled on Quinn Simmons calendar.

Like he said, he had an interview a couple months ago. So he was skipping flanders. All the copper classes to go all in on Amstogold. There's just 28th can't be. I cannot imagine that's what he.

That that's what he was aiming for. What any tips like are you. Would you guys change his calendar changes approach at all to these. To these one day races. I would say no.

I mean, we saw last year.

He was really focused on the world as well. Didn't have a great world. And then week later. He basically did the one of the most impressive. Breakways.

We've seen all in 25 season. Yeah. In lumber. And lumber deer. So I would not definitely not count him out for next week.

It's a one day race. Maybe just didn't feel great throughout the day. But I would think he's going to be a better better throughout the week. Yeah. Off day off day off day off day off day off day off.

I'm trying to open up. I'm trying to start a conversation here about. So he's like 10 kilos heavier than a lot of these guys. He's competing against. Is he doing the wrong type of one day race?

I agree Spencer. I was going to say I would love to see him in the couple classes. Especially. Especially. Especially.

He loves the couple classics. I know like as a junior. He did the junior repay with.

You know Luke Lumparity and this is a really incredible junior USA team.

“And I think that was the only one that said he probably never wanted to go back.”

So he might just not be a huge fan of the cobbles. No. It's a huge. He has to do so much more power than everybody else on the in these races. Mathematically.

It's an uphill battle. You know, it's a really good repay writer is his little brother Colby Simmons. It's done at twice. Finish and said the time. It's about times.

The funny thing is Spencer. I mean, we're talking about, you know, him being 10 kilos heavier. And then these guys. I mean. Yeah.

He looks big on the right. But yeah. If he's next to him, I mean, I've seen him in it. Considering the well time. The guy's time.

His waist is like this. He's so skinny. I mean, he can be more. He cannot be any lighter. You know, he's a tall guy.

Yeah, that's the. The tallest really starts to hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Didn't hurt your organs. Normally. Yeah. And say. That's a pretty tall.

Yeah. He's tall.

“That's that's the only going against him.”

We're looking back. He's got the tallest. I've arrested him. I've arrested him. I've arrested him.

An expert who was saying, you know, let's let's not over hype. Sex. I mean, whatever. I don't know. How about he got the information.

That's not over hype. And because he's still going to grow. He's still going to grow a few centimeters. And maybe he may be. He may be.

Well, what would you get this information? I don't know about that. I don't think you're done growing north and south. Yeah. Yeah.

No. What do you mean am I not going to keep growing? No, at 19, at 19 20, you're not getting. I'm not listening. I'm not listening.

I'm not some. Evolutionary. Whatever. I feel like that's it. I don't think you all.

You don't have a gross bird at 20. No. And you all know, I mean, if he does keep going, it's an issue. But how did we, how does this person know this? I have no idea.

I don't remember who it was, either. But somebody saying that, you know, he, he, he anticipates. He can still grow a few centimeters. And that's going to be a problem. I think so.

Where are you? Do rabbit hole are you going down on the internet? What, with that particular side? I just, I don't know that one again. Whoever says no.

No. No. Any. No. No.

Okay. Well. I hope to make it next weekend. I have to fly to Hawaii for a conference. It's just held up early there.

But now that you guys are sitting here talking, we're talking about this. I'm like, damn. I mean, it's kind of like a two in the morning set up for me. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

That, for the show, I'll do watch the race. Well, the watch. I mean, you would, if you wanted to, yeah, if you wanted to see the, the bulk of the action, that would be two AM. Oh, that's hard.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. So I might miss the bulk of the action. But it's amazing. Could be a great race.

Yeah. I was trying to look up that none of these bedding sites have the odds up right now.

If you just, nobody has any, any preliminary odds. I thought that might be interesting. Do you guys want to speak in of that?

“Do you want to guess the two of the front sides right now?”

Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, my gosh. There's minus 390. Yeah.

As we sit here right now, that, I would not bet that right now. Too many things could happen between not and just. That's not, that's bad, bad, bad. What about, uh, Vanguard plus 400? Not terrible money, actually, if you believe in the one, I've already bet on Paul.

Paul, say, shots to win this two or two fronts at plus 1,100. That's it. I'm sorry.

He's the top, he's, he's the third, uh, top favorite.

Uh, he's, is there somebody between 400 and one of the other? I've been a poll. Is. Same money. So the high.

Yeah. Not going to have to. We'll short that one. Yeah. That's, yeah.

Hmm. You know, this is the best bet there. I mean, if you were going to risk a hundred dollars to win 400, that, that would be. I think the only way. The only way.

Yeah. The only way. He says, shots can win if it's, if something happens with Jonas and Paul gotcha. That's the only way. He's not going to, he's not going to beat both of them.

I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. But Jonas is just doing the, is doing zero. He's not going to be.

Uh-huh. I mean, anything going to happen to him. You know, being at 80% of his strength is going to win the zero. That is true. Another way.

I'm going to do you on.

“I think Paul should, should, I love this idea of, of taking.”

The strongest team they can take to support him in a race like the Walt.

And just kind of. Uh, just do a dry run. Yeah. Like this is three weeks. This is a great team.

Um, see how they have a storm. They have a storm team now. They have to build a storm team in Seoul. Yeah. You mean time they can still reinforce for next year.

You know, based on the, the welcome. Yeah. Hello. There's a world. Of course, our, our great friend Matthew Ricka.

Tell us now on that team. I've watched this sort of unfold. I mean, there's a world where he plays a big bit. This kick and climb this. He could be.

So right when. Just wanted to see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's. Yeah. He's a fun part of that story. Do you guys know who did who did what Johan and Lance were talking about went to the

Walter focused on that showed up next year when the two to friends.

Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what Paul got charted. One three stages finished their overall. Worked out.

We're looking at another guy. Yeah. Yeah. Sitting here on the screen. I remember.

I remember that. Is it fourth place right at the Walter? Yeah. I didn't win it.

“But you know, I mean, I think that's a nice thing about that.”

That strategy you're on laid out is you don't. It's less pressure on you to win it. And then you're just rehearsing for the next year at the tour. Yeah. Hmm.

Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Well, congrats to Remco. Yeah.

He's not winning that great. Great win. But easy win. I mean, he's. He's got to love everybody who's happy.

Yeah. I think if you would ask Rem. If it was an easy win, he probably wouldn't say. Yeah. Yeah.

He was. But still. He's not ready. He was going. He was happy.

Yeah. He was. And as you say. I think, you know, when I finish the show with like congratulating Leo Vaughn's week with his 30 years of director organizing it.

The great race. I know. I mean, I know Leo. He's a house in the south of Spain. I meet him sometimes there.

He's his super passionate guy. And yeah, he's he didn't a great job. Yeah. Shout out to Leo. Thank you.

Awesome. Awesome. All right, everybody. Well, thanks for tuning in. Hope everybody has a great Sunday.

We will. We being most people on this show. Georgia, are you doing the audition? You got it. It was.

Oh, daddy. All right. Dang it. Oh, press your voice. Give me the time.

Nice week. Do you ever do the race? Like one time. I think there's one time. I'd better get up.

Gosh. You got second. You got second. Lance in English, right? I think I got second.

I don't ask these questions. I don't know. But he said I want to know what I want. Do you know what I want? Do you remember who who who who won?

That's going to be sure. One of the biggest class writers I've ever seen by the way, Pascal Richard. Yeah. He could phone it in.

Super talent. Yeah. Yeah. Olympic champion. Yeah.

Do it. Just be like it. It's just not even. You're like, is this game racing anymore?

Fuck no helmets. That was the glory days.

Like when people like to do this.

These motherfuckers are cool. Look, watch this. And he was just grease back. Yeah. Pro used to race.

He still makes. Makes Max. Yeah.

“We look like a junior at the Olympics in Atlanta.”

Makes me look like a. Like I just born.

Like I just learned to ride a bike in Leedge.

Just like, yeah, I'm here. How about it? Good. If you would see Pascal Richard now, he is still. He looks to fame.

He's equally fit. Good. God. That you're going to say 300 pounds. That's not fit.

“If you, if you could see him now, he wouldn't even fit on the screen.”

Can't have him on the show. We were going to have him. No, that's all. Okay. Again.

Super class guy. So sweet.

Do you guys know we got third at that Leedge?

Genety? Yeah. He's been. Who's got the memory now for the gold? Oh.

Yeah. I can reminisce with the best of them. Okay. I'll say things. I'll do it.

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