Did UAE Make a Mistake? | Tour de France 2026 Stage 3 | THEMOVE+

You know stages like this and if you take that decision to go for the stage when and you know

“You have to control the whole stage with dog without any help”

You may feel as you may say okay fine, you know, we win the stage. We have a day to recover tomorrow It's an eat it recovery day. It adds up. It adds up. I've said it many many times And I'm going to keep saying it. I don't care if it's modern cycling or all fashion cycling Stage win stage racing a grant tour It you have to be with the calculator in your back pocket not just for yourself for your teammates

Everybody welcome back to the move plus I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with your home

Brnail we're breaking down stage three of the tour of France one by Tata Pagachar ahead of Jonas Vindigo with Richard Caripass surprise third place

He looked good ball six us and fourth to buy his hall in Johannes and four seconds back in fifth We should also say finnigarde Caripass and six six us were two seconds behind Pagachar Unexpected stage win is not how Johan and I thought would play out We're also going to preview stage four at the end of the episode in our outcome segment But Johan just just to just to kick things off here

“I think we both thought this would be your breakaway day. It was not you a controlled the day”

We had a little crash early very hard start took 70k for the breakaway to get away The poor break though. They worked really hard to get away and then they got real done by UA And Pagachar wins the stage. What is your take away of this stage? Well Spencer. Yeah, I mean yesterday we talked about that this would be an ideal stage for for a break And initially it looked like that was going to be the case. It was a strong break away

Initially, I think there was like 15 or more riders ultimately it worked down to six riders, but it looked like

It looked like the move, right? It was just perfect. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and so Initially we had Visma setting the pace a little bit in the Palatone, but you could see that was not a pace with the intention to bring that breakaway back and

“Yeah, my take of the day is that the attitude of UA”

I was surprised to see that in the middle of the stage all of a sudden after I mean As soon as they they must have they must have talked during the stage because As far as I'm have been informed it was not their plan to Go for the stage win today and it's and then I saw an interview of Adam Yates and he actually said Yeah, you know when we saw the breakaway and you know that was some guys in there. It was a strong breakaway

So we didn't want to let it go that far. I mean, I personally I cannot see anybody in that breakaway Spencer Even if that break gets 10 minutes I cannot see any But in that break that would have been at threat after three weeks in for the GC and the two other fronts I have difficulties to understand Spencer, you know, and we all say yeah, you know, what's modern cycling things have changed You know, they go for it every single day and they do

Which is it's actually my Question of the day and and you know by criticism I would say towards UA I mean if you can call it criticism. I just don't think it's smart racing what they do Today they decided that at a certain point the breakaway there was

Said Adam Yates strong guys in there so they didn't want to let it go That's not a valid reason for me because there was nobody in there that I would consider as a threat at all But it was clear that at some point they said okay, you know what week if we if we start working we can keep the breakaway clothes and we can win the stage It's early man. I don't like these tactics even if it's pogachar and even if it's UA It it just shows Spencer what I've been saying and I we know at the risk of repeating myself many times

I've said many times pogachar is by far the strongest rider UA is by far the strongest team And their worst enemy is themselves and their ambition and their enthusiasm and and To me today they they want the stage great morale you know great great everybody's happy This is not just about pogachar pogachar is the worst if the least of the of the thing that they have to be concerned about the UA They have to be concerned about the freshness of the teammates and and

For example the majority of the work today was done by

Florian Vermeer and Neil Spottett amazing rise of those two guys that's ultimately what they're here for but

There will be situations later on where I think they will have to do it because they have to today

Tim balance putting an amazing amazing pole like very long pole. I mean his face was the suffer face

You know stages like this and if you take that decision to go for the stage when and you know

“You have to control the whole stage with though without any help”

You may feel as you may say okay fine, you know, we win the stage. We have a day to recover tomorrow It's an eat it recovery day It adds up it adds up. I've said it many many times and I'm gonna keep saying it. I don't care if it's modern cycling or all fashion cycling Stage wing stage racing a ground tour You have to be with the calculator in your back pocket not just for yourself for your teammates

And I think today today is I didn't like it If I would have been and I've actually received messages today from some of my ex riders

asking hey what are these guys doing we never did this we were you know we always were

Conservative and we were thinking about okay, let's just assume that three days down the road We're gonna be in a crisis situation and we need all the energy we have That's how you have to think Of course, these are all great cyclists right and they do recover amazingly, but I hope I hope in in a week or so hard for the down the road. I don't have to tell you

Spencer remember what I told you on stage tree. I told you You have I think there's been a few instances of you saying oh well look the you know you have this theory of there's a fine item out of energy that a human has to spend over the course of three weeks And if you spend a little bit too much on stage tree at her chance stage 20 and usually you are correct about it

See I hope we're not in that position, but The thing that I thought it was awesome by the way. This is a fan awesome love to see it But got your looks amazing

“The only thing that is kind of odd to me is a lot of energy spent”

If you're going for GC you'd want energy spent to correlate to big time gains right They'd spend a lot of energy and they get six seconds They get the stage with they get the stage with stage for example Spencer This is how hard this stage was today. Florian Vermeer's okay. I just I'm just on this straw right here 200 and two kilometers

3,600 meters of climbing. He did a lot of work. He burned 6,200 calories today That's you know, I mean of course and you could feel today In that that's called it the path to on the ultimately was 35 riders It was so hard for everybody. I mean nobody everybody was just okay You and you just do whatever the hell you want. We're just going to hang on here

Nobody made any intention to

“Move up or they were just hanging on that was 40 degrees today Spencer all day”

That's extremely hot. I mean it's it was it was a purity stage today although there was no big mountains But almost 4,000 meters of climbing. That's a big mountain stage and it's day three you know So why spent their riders so early in the race When it's clear that Pogacha is the strongest rider it's clear that UE is the strongest team I would I would have saved it

Then also the question is are these calls that are made on the on the road by who by Pogacha by the team mates Is there any Resistance from the car is the director?

Always agreeing with the leader or is he saying okay, you know what okay? Fine

But let's think about these guys let's think about Tim Wellen's and Afroyenne Vermeer's and Paul it And random of nerfty we will need those guys Many many times what it really matters today didn't really matter it did matter if they wanted to in the stage But that's not what they came for And when do you think this decision was made before the day before the stage or during the stage no during the stage

During the stage after they saw the composition of the breakaway, which I also have Difficulties to understand that they saw this breakaway as potential danger further down the road Look today Spencer this was the classic typical ideal situation when you see There's a breakaway the strongest guy in the breakaway is this guy Alex Bodern french rider on a team that needs publicity

That him take please please please take the yellow jersey and then fight for it for a week with everything you have that's that that team We'd have done an amazing job now and then UAE comes in whenever they are failing that the thing is

Whether okay, you have to you have the difference today they spend a lot of a lot of energy

“But also they take the yellow jersey will they want to keep the jersey or not that's basically irrelevant because”

But watch our and UAE are such big favorites that no matter what happens whether they have the jersey or not

It will always be on them whatever situation is created in the race

They will have to control and correct it and everybody will be looking at them So it doesn't really matter if they have the jersey or not in terms of having to control the race or wanting to control the race but Having a french rider on an American team in yellow That's like a wet dream Sorry my my vocabulary

That's I mean I would have I would have signed for that anytime and it would have made me think so easy for them. I mean a lot of pressure off You have a team that will that's that would have been their goal for you know the next week Let's keep this jersey every days a day that we have the jersey

Great publicity a french rider young rider

It was ideal and they just didn't didn't want to take that offer you know The weirdest part about that is that you're describing the exact scenario at the dofinite which they won with del Toro Alex Bodon got the the jersey early and then EF controlled the race and then Del Toro just popped into the last stage of one the over Yeah, yeah, I agree like that that would seem to have been the move. I don't quite understand where and why the audible was called but

I mean, I don't know I'm just trying to think of reasons of why you would do that

“I guess are they just trying to beat everybody down and break their spirit before I think it's early”

I think it's early to do that Spencer although I have to say though you know Observing closely today the demeanor of whoever was left in that front group There's been a lot of damage done already Yeah, it was a very hard day

Pitcock said today. This is the hardest bike race I've ever done in my whole life today state really yeah You know, I mean it and then at the on the other hand you could see obviously that UAE they were perfectly in control We got your look like he was just cruising and just you know finishing it off I'm not worried about pagachar for them. I mean unless he goes from very far and pace for it But you know, I'm more worried about how fast they use

“Their guys so early and in stage three and especially man with the heat and it looks like the dude of France is going to be hot”

for a long time It takes a lot of you But the only so Does this mean I'm just thinking of stuff on the fly so I'm not thinking it through fully but Let's say they're wearing their guys out but are they not wearing everybody else out

At the same time they do so they do They then you're just bringing the level of the race down which then helps pagachar because if there's no one as any energy left To attack you just that make it easier to defend yellow Mmm look then I mean I don't know how accurate these numbers are Spencer, but this is actually a crazy stat You know, I mean it's as crazy we've talked about this many times right but anyway Strava is Strava

It's it's it's it's a it's an algorithm it calculates right based on what you spent and Pogachar today This is crazy. I just said six thousand calories right yeah for vermish vermish Pogachar 3,370 calories crazy I mean But you won't let's say this is accurate

Then they would know this and then this would would this not be the plan of like let's just Newt everybody our guy is fatiguing far less because he's doing far less work

Yeah, that's yeah again the the concern should never be pogachar

But you have a teammate he who spent six thousand calories they But how many calories do you think like I'm going to tell you right now because he's on Strava and I've checked it already because of Pogachar he was in the wheels all day So if he's saying it's the hardest race he's ever done in the wheels like it couldn't have been that easy for anybody So look jargonson today and again, you know, let's not take this as exact tie-ins right

But jargonson has spent 5,939 calories That's 2,600 calories more than Pogachar and not that far below Floor and for me, she was down on work. Yeah, so yeah, I mean that would that would just be just I'm just thinking on the fly like what could they

Like I could see vengagar like before the last climb he was already He was not having it easy. They were all on the limit which is obviously something that UAE has accomplished So but you know, they their guys also have to recover and At the end of the day, yes, they were them out but for the moment Pogachar has shown twice how extremely dominant he is

But if you look at the numbers they're both on zero seconds You want to say it is a funny thing, right? You know it seems I forgot you was running away with this and they are tied on time exactly yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do I do I do think however Spencer that you know what what we're seeing now And you know people say okay, it's it's not it's not the same as long climbs

“I think we're gonna see this translated into the same dominance on the longer efforts”

You know if you see that This is actually I mean we went to the back to the numbers of two or Switzerland right where Pogachar did this really really good performance, but We haven't seen any performance of Pogachar over 30 minutes this year yet Yeah, I it's probably gonna be pretty good it would be my guess

I'll see if I can you know I have to ask permission to share the information, but I do have information Of training rights of Pogachar before the tour if that's correct Spencer I'm nothing happens to him It's not gonna even be close. It's not gonna be close for anybody. Not even for Jonas it seems like he already thinks that just the way he's behaving

“Yeah, and I know we're not supposed to talk about it anymore big big zero to Talia has has bought everybody off”

used to be

Consider that doing the zero was not amazing tour preparation and I could be just making stuff up

Jonas looks a little tired. He looks he let at least looks miserable emotionally Yes yesterday. He didn't look very happy. He looked really really worn out yesterday, but I've seen this off more often from him On the other hand, Pogachar looks fresh fresh as a daisy off to the home almost like he didn't do a three-week race Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I mean they clearly think it's good prep because half of their team did the zero

So they wouldn't do that if they thought they were fatiguing, but You know, I don't know you're in a different hotel every night. It just seems like a lot Yeah, and then another thing that really blows my mind Spencer This is not just Pogachar, right? It's also because let's not forget that

Jonas and got a pass and say exhaust were only two seconds behind and then the other ones were what then second behind or four seconds so four seconds behind so

This is a stat we I got you from villain The speed the average speed of Pogachar on over the last two hundred and ten meters at a six seven and a half percent slope And look if you look behind here you can see how steep it is mean these guys are two seconds behind look how much lower they are 38.2 kilometers average and the last 200 meters on a seven and a half percent slope. I mean You and I can hardly get that on the flat now the flat see what you would say that's we're moving pretty fast

Yeah, road yeah That's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean and also how about Del Toro leading it out

Basically for the last climb and then slots in right behind Remco for seconds back. That's pretty impressive

Yeah, I mean this is he definitely he owed that right to

“To Pogachar today, but we're gonna see more of that I think”

When when when the total was was going Everybody was already on the limit then just Pogachar just had there you know you I think Jonas was not what the soonest Pogachar went out of the saddle You know as was on the wheel. I think he didn't stay in the wheel for two seconds. It was gone straight away Well if he's really 57 kilos he is significantly lighter than Pogachar and he's gonna have a lot less top and power So yeah, yeah, and you this is this is like not the terrain that he came here to do well on if he's really at that weight so

It was pretty shocking how far out fast you right away from him, but I think we're gonna have to come up with some stuff to talk about for the rest of the race So let's I want I'm gonna I want you to rank your GC contenders from one to five So like who you think is the best like who you think's gonna win basically and then like go down in order of who had Who looks the best in the worst so number one being the best. Who do you think it is? Well, I'll charge. Who's number two right now? Jonas?

Who's number four?

“It starts again interesting down here six us. I agree. I thought it was pretty good today and then who's number five?”

Lipwitz Lipwitz. I like that a lot. Did you know I went back through lipwitz last two minutes in the first four stages last year?

So he's already off to a better start than he was last year when he got third and today he was also I mean he defended himself pretty well. He was in that four second group, right? Do you finish six or seven today? Yeah, so six us was the last of the two's in fourth place fifth to buy it's all in New hunts and keep an eye on that guy He was fifth or second year. Yeah, and then Leonard Venet felt six on the stage four seconds back and then lipwitz seventh Remco 8 del Tor 9th. I use so 10th and that's the group schgamosa was going to take his back

But yeah, where do you put Remco in that list now? I mean I would love to say you know, he's counted it for the podium, but Unfortunately, we haven't seen that Remco for a number of years now So until he proves the contrary

Today was actually a really good stage for him a punchy climb like this You know, I also think that probably with him being significantly lighter. He also lost some punch So we'll see what it translates to in the in the bigger class on the bigger climbs

“But I situate him there up fifth sixth. I think those first four”

Definitely the first two but also sex us and the Toro are probably stronger than Remco. I think overly three week stage race

And what have you thought of one I used so so far? I think he's okay, but he's just a little bit off like he's Yesterday I saw I'm struggling on Almost week today he was there, but not with the first guy. So I think he's in the Ramco league. I think what a moment Does he? I mean I have Algarve he was quite good on punchy climbs, but is he not good at punchy efforts like how many one days

Does he? Yeah, no, yeah, like he has he has one he has one one day race is already I think like what's the biggest one day race? He's one I just believe he won Do you feel like really? Yes, and 20 in that spot. Yeah, he did win that. Oh, oh, those French races early in the year like folk Fondrom classic. Yeah, those are hot. Oh, but I guess he's riding away from a long way out when he won when he won those races

So just I I always assume he's a punchy guy that would do well in a day like today, but the more I looked back at it like maybe he is

More in the lipowitt's mold, but we don't think about him that way because he physically looks really strong and big yes And we should talk about the green jersey really quick because forgot you're as a winning But we have not really had any opportunity for sprinters to do anything. I mean you pointed this out, Matt's better sim was in the break away today One he I guess he did 25 got the chance to win 20. Yeah, that's a lot because the stage was 30 points. So it's almost as much as winning the stage

So Pagotters leading the point jersey, but the sprint stages are worth 75 intermediate sprints were 25 mountain stages were 30 so you'd have to win over two mountain stage per one Sprint stage which makes it hard for a non-sprinter to win How do you feel about should we make any conclusions yet or we don't really know I know Benjamin or my like one

Intermediate sprint from the group maybe yesterday that it was yesterday. Yeah, yeah, but that was a break away, you know before There's a three right break. Yeah No, I think that they changed the the point system a bit to make sure that it's it's hard to you know Have better chances that a sprinter wins the green jersey But you can't put anything possible got you are if if he wins

Last year, I think he won three or four, but the year before in the human six stages at the tour you won six stages So during six stages

“Yeah, it's I mean still I mean then you have to have a sprinter that it wins at least two state three stages”

Plus, I mean yeah, they're gonna have a intermediate sprint so Normally it should be a sprinter who wins it It's just a matter also the question also how many of those potential sprints stages are actually gonna be a sprint or is there gonna be a break away? You know although be any sprinter that wins more than one stage because that's what I get interesting. Yeah, yeah

That's not there will be sprints stages. It's some point they will happen

“Do you have anything else on today before we go to tomorrow?”

Yeah, the abandoned of Arnodoli You know it was sad to see

You know he shouldn't have started today, you know if you could see yet. Yeah first of all he came into this race he got he got sick

Stomach problems again before the before the start couldn't make it to the team presentation on Thursday So that's already really bad Then the recon of the team time trial he had to abandon that again in the car Did the team time trial go drop straight away yesterday was dropped on the first climb There's there is no way the two of the fronts that you can recover from this

We sat to see him you know getting dropped first rider Then this poor French guy had to stay with him and then finally He had to delete had to abandon You know the two of the fronts doesn't allow you to be sick Spencer You cannot you cannot be sick and at least this in this cycling at this pace

“You know I I remember in my days it was different you know my first to the fronts actually”

I started sick I had the beginning of a bronchitis

And I had to take antibiotics and I was horrible the first week but

It was different you know there were there were long stages sometimes it was The first 100 kilometers were not very fast and it was completely different the speeds were not so high in today cycling There is no way you can you can recover if you're a little bit off because of a crash Are an injury or a little illness you are empty and you cannot recover And it's the second grand tour this has happened. Yeah, this for just the same thing is happening with another Belgian rider by the way

Kianite the boots He's been suffering from day one in the team time trial now. I just read reports that he has signs of fever You don't recover from this you know you you can see he's trying to hang in there and he does you know he suffers a lot gets dropped comes back He's a good cyclist but it's gonna get to him you know First of all racing with fever is already

Not very smart but then again, you know it's through the front so nobody wants to go home or nobody wants to say I you know I have fever. I'm a banding everybody hopes that the fever is going to be gone

Do they after and you're going to start to feel better and fortunately the reality is different

Yeah, I cannot imagine trying to recover during the tour of France from a fever That seems like it's tough. Yeah, poor honor to Lee it is It is a while because I mean it feels like we just had the zero where he was also off the back with teammates Yeah, I get a garrative type illness and so man yeah, I was heard that that there was more of an explanation there because they had done this race in Valonia Was really bad weather a lot of mud on the road and there was a lot of people a lot of riders got sick

stomach stomach back from the dirt on the road. Yeah, not just the lead few teammates of him other teams These these stomach problems here. I don't know what what causes of it, but yeah, it's not not not a great season for him for the moment I know we have we have to see also how you can stay motivated for the rest of the season You know he has signed a tree your deal probably a great contract with two door so

“How how much more motivated is he going to be for the rest of the season to perform?”

Yo, and you don't have to win at two door though. You just go and make a lot of money. It's like we're going to be perfect. It's going to be great I've gotten sick that same way. It's not dirt. It's manure. It's on the road that's Getting in your system and you get very sick. Yeah, I can't imagine trying to race with that. It's not fun One we should call out there's a crash at the start of the stage It was at the front it took down like Matthew Rick and Tello a sepcushment down. I think Bruno Amarale

I made all you and that's not good like that's going to be miserable for those guys I think Bruno got back Rick and Tello was seen like he was suffering all day and then another odd and in odds and in Eagle Manoggets in the breakaway flats out of it and then also Tobias Foss went down who I was quite interested to see how he would do I thought he was having a great race finally looking back to the Tobias Foss that won a world championship in the time trial So that's unfortunate but Bruno is in the breakaway flats out of it and then he finishes pretty well on the stage

He's with on pitcock 18 seconds back so that's a way better than I thought Bruno would do after having a rough first two days of the race. Yeah Well, I mean, I mean, I think I think he nails us here definitely with with

Realistically for the G.C. Well, I think what would you say about

Just a blind study or a blind test and I said we have this guy here got forth at the Tour of Switzerland

“Is he a world the Tour of yeah, will he do well the Tour of France? Yeah, I mean, I think I think they had”

You know and obviously Vos Foss probably also wants to go He lost a lot of time today a lot of time okay Yeah, it's a little that's I mean already Vokala is going backwards, you know, he's he's not yeah He's also something must be wrong for everything Ottoman

Definitely not on the same level as the giro where he was I think four to fifth Four I think I think he ended up fifth fifth fifth is okay for now fourth You know he should have the podium by Jay and yeah, yeah, yeah, so fourth fourth So anyway, so that's he didn't definitely it definitely didn't come here with G.C. ambitions Bernal

We all know that hey, Bernal is not anymore the Bernal when he won the tour and he knows that also Today I heard In an interview that the goal was to Bernal for him to go in the break away So if you have G.C. ambitions you don't go in these breakaways, right? So yeah, you know, they're gonna have a hard time and in this in this through the front

They're guys They're strong guys are not performing very well and they're just got to have to go for yeah stage wins or you know That's that's that's that's starting stage wins stage wins in what stage That worked again. Yeah, it is funny to me that Bernal and Arnsman Why did they even write hard on that final climb

Did Arnsman also try to hang on? Yeah, he was right there It's like maybe okay I don't know, but you think yeah, you would not when you'd want to lose time So then you can go in breakaways. Maybe Arnsman once to try it. I don't know Maybe he's recovered properly from the zero

He did go deep though in the zero

“He didn't know I know that's what he went really deep so he is two minutes”

19 out of the race lead we got to move on from time and Arnsman, but Just they will start to get interesting because these gaps are gonna get crazy big And so, you know, they've all these guys like Tobias on yohans and Arnsman Jordi Jigot Jordan Jigot And you know, they seem like they're really far back now, but that won't seem like it's really far back in two weeks time, so yeah, maybe that they're thinking but

We might be watching like eighth versus ninth for entertainment in the third week yohana a lot of high hopes for this race anymore Yeah, it's it's a lot of things can happen Should we, you know, I think I think as we said all along, you know, I think that Bugachars is strongest rider he has a strongest team as long as they control the controllables

And nothing happens, you know Unfortunately to him like like bad luck or crash or illness Then he wins I think But that doesn't mean that there's not other

Interesting races going on and there's always the unknown, right? I mean

Will they be able to do it for three weeks? Will they have about day will Bugachar

“Maybe when they crack or whatever, you know, that's that's what people hope for”

As you guys said on the on on the move, you know What is the tactics to try to beat Bugachar? I mean, I don't know. I don't know if there's any tactics Other than just let them do Let them make the race hard. Let's try to lose as less time as possible and maybe they wear them They wear themselves out

Today, I would say that's not the case because they blew up some of their riders, but above all they were out Everybody else in that week including Jonas and including psychs Austin Everything everybody else It's not going to happen, but the case study would be the 2018 juridotalia Where jaco and at Simon Yates just spent too much energy and

Deflated and the riders that conserved energy did well like Chris for himself. Yeah, it's not the same

It's not the same. No, it's not the same bloodshed. The problem is we got to have another yeah

Bugachar cracking is Bugachar losing by this much to Jonas from the gardener That's exactly that's that's exactly that's the only week point That is present right now from the past is I okay we could beat him once You know, with a few centimeters and we got like a four second time bonus difference. Yeah, that's that's the issue We're facing right now also interesting fact Spencer know that it means anything, but today's the first time

That Jonas vingigart loses the juridotial jersey after he's wearing it

In the tour in the tour yeah Wow every time he has taken the yellow jersey has not he has not left it in line anymore today's the first time Interesting yeah, huh, I didn't know that Well, let's let's go to a quick ad break and then we'll preview tomorrow stage four and give our picks Everybody this episode is brought to by ultra pouches

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So in xd bets dot com slash bet outcomes Yohan before we go to the stage odds. I just want to bring something up to you because I'm looking here on the next bets dashboard Tadaboga chart. This is a crazy the start of this of today stage. He was minus 300 to win the overall He's now minus 750 But as you said earlier in the show he's not

Take in any like he's not ahead of finger guard with any time

That's crazy and interesting one. I was looking at just want to call them out points classification

Yes, for Phillips and's the favorite despite me know we're so far plus 175 But got yours plus 600. I looked at this and I thought oh, that's interesting, but as you said if if one spinner wins two stages plus a few Intermediate sprints that's equal to forgot your winning like six stages So he probably won't win the green jersey

It probably will be a spinner And then this next one young riders classification Mr. Paul six us plus one ten

“Isaac Del Toro plus one sixty one and you're so plus 300. Who do you think's going to win the young rider classification?”

I think that total

Me too at plus one. He's plus one sixty. I don't that's interesting to me. I thought that was the most interesting GC

odds of seeing I Am I bet on that myself because that's that's pretty good, but to for tomorrow stage stage four We may finally finally get a break-way day because it's a hundred and 182k long Pretty long stage one two three four categorized climbs And it's hot. It's it's going to be over a hundred degrees at the start high 90s at the finish and the foothills of the piranys

There is no uphill finish. It's about 30k from the final climb to the finish So there's less incentive for GC team to control it like today and then go for the stage win How do you think are we finally going to get a break-away? And who is going to win out of this break-away?

“Well, I mean finally, I mean we don't have to be desperate eaters. Spencer, it's only stage four, right?”

It's always stage four first time the first day was not going to be a break-away

Well, that was I guess a break-away technically stage two was not not going to be a break-away We knew that already So yeah, today was the ideal scenario, but with the upper finish tomorrow is an ideal stage. I think for a break-away you know four climbs 2007 hundred meters of elevation two of the climbs are cut two climbs

Which I mean they're long but not very steep so it's going to have to be a strong break Then the question is who is going to control this? The quiet I think the question is also Will you a Defend this jersey now or will they give it away?

I'm going to be I'm tempted to say they will not give it away I agree but I don't I agree with your assessment. I don't agree with the decision. I would not I would give it away, but yeah, that's not what they're thinking so Yeah, I mean it's different it's difficult. I think it's a break-away day tomorrow Now to call somebody from the break-away that's that's different I'm I can see I mean I don't know if the odds are out for the stage tomorrow, but

I'm going to go for quit Simmons tomorrow. You know, I like it a lot in the great so strong today. He was so strong We're we're thinking the odds are not out weird thing. I checked the odds last night before I went to bed But got her was the heavy heavy favorite for today stage like plus one ten. Why?

“They were right obviously, but why would they even have thought that that's what I don't they must tell the information we don't know”

Right and then you're like well, how are they getting that so then did you a decide they're going to go for the stage Before the stage I I was really confused by that, but I saw that. I thought oh they must know something because why would you think? I don't know or maybe they just plug in The profile and what has happened and they don't have the biases that we have yeah, that would be crazy to control the stage I think I can quit Simmons a very good pick. I do think it's going to be a breakaway

I also think it would be smart to give the jersey away just look at who like what fees might gave it away You know they let L'Alio carry that race for so long and that's such a big help These ones very good at doing that. I don't the UA might not do it I'm going to go further out of the breakaway What do you think about Matthew Vanderpool? Do you think this is too hard for him?

Today he was suffering then he tried once he tried once to be in a break and then we didn't see him anymore And then he kind of let go pretty early could that be With you know in the back of his mind let let me try again tomorrow Could be

I want yeah Matthew Vanderpool would be a pit would be a pick it would be like a probably a good pick right because if it's in the Everywhere there's a good chance he's went same thing with quincements. There's just very few people with that Ability what do we think's going to happen in my tires if I check is he going to have to stay in the peloton with are you so and

So I don't I mean

Also we have what we have to have in mind also how some of these riders how do they how do they

deal with the heat you know. Yes, yeah mature is not a fan of the heat. I know that Quincements I don't know how good he is in the heat and And then Vachek I don't know I mean from Czech Republic May also prefer fresher way and listen nobody nobody likes the riding 40 degrees right But that some people deal better with it than others

Vachek is definitely this and he's he's in great form that's for sure Yeah Vachek I'm gonna go Vachek. I'm gonna go Vachek. It's it I mean you you list a lot of obstacles there. It's going to be a tricky stage because it's so it is difficult it just physically a difficult stage it's so hot

“So not only do you have to get in the move you then have to be able to perform in the heat”

And over climbs and then deal with the dynamics if you're Matthew Vanderpool everyone's looking at you so yeah I mean somebody's gonna win but it's kind of hard to pick out who it's gonna be. I'm gonna go with Vachek And I pretty sure it's gonna be a break. I would be shocked if this is not a break away. I would yeah I don't even know who would control the race to make it not a break away

Yeah, you never know you never know that is very true you do not know anything else you

Hawn before we take off. Oh, no, we got an event of trivia. Yeah, yeah, yes Well, so yesterday's question was 2026 marks the third time the tour has started in Spain. What were the other two years? Do you know this answer you Hawn 2020 tree Bill Bao and 1992 Sansa Bastion. Yes, that's true both in the best country Yeah, interesting and yeah, who on the 92 tour in Drain in dry one the 92 tour and

I'm almost sure that he actually won the prologue the first stage and No, teammate of mine was second Alex Sulek And then Alex took the yellow jersey on stage to with a bonification sprint. So I think in the right one the prologue in Sansa Bastion As they he's from champion close to there right Navarra Navarra. Yeah, okay So today's question on stage six the race marks in early entrance to the pierneys the cold duetomelae just nearby

Oh, sorry, yeah, we were actually The question was just saying on stage tree the race marks in early entrance to the pierneys the cold duetomelae is just nearby They do climb it on stage six though. It's a single most climb mountain into a different history Had this is the wording of this is roughly how many times is it to request it?

“So I guess technically you have to answer it with a rough”

Estimate and to answer it go to ventom.com/themove Also, you can use the move 10 for 10% off. I would take advantage of that if you want a new gravel bike or road bike But we're we're going to give the answer to Maro in exact terms Johan, so if if you want to do the ventomone Give a rough answer if you want to if you want to hang with us you got to do an exact answer Bring that to tomorrow's

episode Do you know this answer Johan? I don't say I don't know it, but it's it's a lot. It's it's a lot How long has it been existed? Well, this is this is the 116th edition. It's about 13 there's there's years in there year years and there where it didn't happen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so probably like 125 years or something

Yeah, a lot of time to the has gone over that There Harder to find that answer than we thought actually. Yeah, just as a warning to people. Yeah, a lot of different numbers out there Well, Johan. Okay, thank here. Well, here's a question for you. I just got this from a listener

“I think I know the answer. I just want to hear your reasoning”

So, but got your giveaway a stage to eZectal Toro. Is it possible that he gives the entire true to friends to his teammate? No No, but we have to say

Why what would your reasoning be? Well, first of all, it's not going to happen because the Toro will have to do

the work he's the he's the he's the last guy. So No, but gotcha is still quite significantly better than the Toro right now And to the friends it's not giving away a stage. You can't give away the to the friends to a teammate I don't think the Toro would. I mean, I totally agree with you. There is there is somebody on the internet We both know who it is three letter names

If the Toro wins the tour than if he wins himself

I it would seem crazy. It did kind of happen though at the Volta, but the Volta's not the tour we should say But when was that when he owned his was it was is there is a very specific set of circumstances because there has to be Yeah, no one pressuring you right if someone pushed them you on this would have had to have passed subcoose, but There was nobody there. I would also say You know, Taddy's like that guy. He lived in a hotel and been a dorm for like a month of

November and December and then Was there again in all of January like those are that's probably not what he would want to do with his free time And doing that to win the tour to France. Yeah, so at some point you're like I've made a lot of sacrifices here I think I'm gonna win this race Yeah, yeah, the tours to her

But already giving away stage in the tour is it's I mean obviously for Pugachar. It's not a big deal because he's won so many already But for any other rider winning one stage in the tour of France can make or break your career. I mean if you win one stage in the tour It's like wow

“You know, I remember when I was a cyclist and the first time I won two stages the first time I won a stage it was like wow”

I just won a fucking stage in the fucking tour of the France. It's like you know that I could not believe it You know, it's that big

It's that you know, I can't yeah when I win my first tour stage. I will know exactly what you mean, but

I But Pugachar's won so many of them, but think how hard like Think how hard the team works for that, you know, that was just for one tour stage win today and those guys were on their knees How many stages has Matthew on the pool one in the tour to France already? He's such a good rider And he has tried many many times. So he has he won?

It's three isn't it three or two? I think it's two, but I mean it could be three, but I think it's two Well, I guess yeah, he won the one in his debut and then he won one last year That might be it, right

That's what this up he's won

Two two stages. Yeah 2021 that uphill finish and then last year when he beat Pugachar and Vinacord

“Yeah, so yeah, that's how difficult it is that's how difficult it is and how many did Ramco win one”

Yeah, yeah, he's our the best riders in the world So to give that away is a big deal yeah, to give a tour away would be unprecedented Would it not except Bernardino would say he gave one away, right? No, did the Ramco not win? He went two stages. No Do that when he won the time trial in 2024 and then

He won the time trial last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but those guys are good, right? Finish and open a poll and they've won two stages each yeah, yeah, crazy Would he know say he's given away a tour? No, you know

Oh, that he's given it away Yeah, but he's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he will say he's given it away Yeah, I mean he kind of he kind of did but I do think Lamald was stronger anyway that year But yeah, he didn't make it easy for Lamald

that year to win because the mall you know had the yellow jersey and he attacked very far out and like took a lot of time

“And then I think I think at some point they said you know while you it was because then he cracked and he he lost them”

the time when they asked him once well what do you would you have done if if you didn't crack he said I had promised I I would work for him the year before I would have waited for him on the top of the time Yeah, hello I don't think we're gonna see that situation, but no, I don't think he's gonna give it away But thanks, Johan and we'll talk tomorrow after the stage. Okay, thanks, sponsored