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little frack was amazing. They had three guys coming back and then basically that.

As soon as these four guys were together, the three frack riders plus a little frack riders plus

“I used to. It was, you know, everything was under control and the only thing that could happen.”

Potentially was that say shots had an amazing time in the last two kilometers of the last climb and I used to collapse, but I guess, you know, he knew very well how he was feeling. And, you know, there was no, there was nothing to do against I use. So he was he was super strong on the last stage. Everybody welcome back to the move. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Yohan Brneo. We are breaking

down the past weekend of racing. The UA tour is a tutorial taking a pretty clinical overall win. Yohan pretty impressive. Can't wait to talk to you about that as well as the battle between one of you. So and Paul Seychoss at the tour at the Vulta, the tour. The Vulta, Agarv, and then the Brutadelle's soul. We have Ivana Rameo breaking Moves stars longer than you would expect stage race drought over there in Southern Spain. But Yohan, you're here in the Costa Blanca. You're getting

some rides in. I hope that's going well. But let's just tackle the UA tour first. What was

“Ezek del Toro, I think the last time we talked it was we talked to after the first summit finish,”

very difficult climb. Del Toro was out of position going into it. Actually, last time to Antonio Tibery was in second place. I believe you said he would probably win the overall and you were correct. You just went up to Jabel Hafeet, the final climb, 25 minute climb, broke the record on it, 25 30 attacks, whittled the group down with the run two and a half K to go. He dropped Tibery, who was holding on and then kind of interestingly looped. Plap stormed out of the group

behind. I ended up passing Tibery and sort of a philosophical. Plap was second by about 12 seconds behind him. But Del Toro, just for reference, did about 6.3 watts per kilo, assuming he's 64 kilograms. Got the record on the climb. These days though, that might be just like a training. That's like a little zone two training ride for a lot of these guys at this point. You know, on what was your impression of this overall win? Oh, in Rimko Avenue Paul, finished

10th, little over two minutes back. He was 52 additional 52 seconds back on the stage six summit finish. Yeah. I mean, you're impressive, impressive attack of Del Toro, super confident. He was actually, you know, he was, so he basically, he was fighting his I'm not gonna say his roommate flat. Maybe you know that they live in the same building him and Antonio Tibery. They go training almost every day together. The third guy, by the way,

we talked about the third guy who lives in the same. So there's three riders living in one building. It's the Toro Tibery and Peli Jari. They live in the same building in San Marino. So they know each other perfectly. They're good friends. But yeah, it was impressive. I mean, I haven't

“checked with a stopwatch, but his is attack with about 3K to go. I think he must have been like 35”

40 seconds out of the saddle on a lot bigger gear than Tibery. Tibery initially could respond. Everybody else was dropped. And then finally, you know, he went again. And it broke, you know, Tibery just had to sit down and didn't finish even second, didn't finish third. So, yeah, I mean, amazing win of Del Toro. And you just said Spencer 44 seconds faster than the record, which, I mean, 44 seconds faster than the clock, just fast as time up that climb. It's not bad.

And Jibery Hafeet has been featured in typically always as the, yeah, in the tour of UAE.

But, you know, I mean, I think records, especially when it's, you know, the times, you know, I always want to see it put it in a proper context. You know, we don't know if it was tailwind.

he's going to do this. He's going to do that. You know, then if you really look at the results, I just checked the first eight of that stage broke Pogachar record. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And Remko, even a poor finish, I don't know, between 10 to 15. He was only 8 seconds slower than

“Pogachar's past, best time. So everything is relative, right? You need to put it in a proper context. So I just want to,”

you know, make sure that people understand like breaking records. It's, it's not, I mean, it's not unusual. It does, however, prove that the level of the overall level of the pro Peloton keeps getting going higher and higher and higher. They go faster every year. And Pogachar, it's been a while. No, since Pogabas, three years ago, four years ago, since Pogachar raised the way, I thought he raised it last year on the new bike. Remember the why, why one R S? Yeah,

but he had to lead the thing is too. He always, I believe, always had to lead going into it.

He defended. He defended. Yeah. So he defended. Yeah. Yeah. Del Toro had to go as far as he could. Yeah. So yeah, and, and already, you know, the majority of the work of that record is not even due to UAE, all their Toro. It was, uh, Decatlomb, who was putting the temple. It was Decatlomb who was leading it out from from very, very far at. So, um, yeah, he did break the record, but, you know, the next seven riders also did. Um, so, I would read too much into that. And what do you

think of, I feel a scholar getting third, I guess that's who Decatlomb was going for. Yeah. Look, clap and second, 12 seconds back. Super impressive ride, super impressive. I mean,

“two to, to pace himself to catch on also with Del Toro, then the numbers of the numbers, right?”

He looked at you as good. He was fast. He was in a big year, which I like to see old school big years, not spin in these teacups, size gears, like everybody else these days. But the thing is, if you notice the, he got rid of teabary right before it was very steep, and then it was flatter, and he made sure to dump him right before then. So he could keep pressing. Because if you're on the limit, usually, you're maybe you can go on the steep parts roughly the same speed.

But you start to get bigger gaps when you get to it's counter to it. If you wouldn't think it was this way, but when you get to the flatter section, you can actually go quite a bit faster. If you're a little bit stronger. So yeah, if you're strong, I think it shows that look,

look, clap is just an amazing, strong bike rider. I think very underestimated in terms of,

I mean, within the Peloton, everybody knows look, clap is crazy strong. It also shows that you need, and I think UAE tour is the ideal environment for a guy like Luke Plop, because he has this big power. And on those climbs, you don't necessarily need to be very savvy in the bunch. As a lot, when you get to the bottom of that climb, these climbs are steep, and they're basically on highways. So there's no fighting for position needed, and Luke Plop can start in 30-40 position.

He is going to be at the front no matter what on those climbs. It's not the same like having to, you know, fight for position to the bottom of a climb in France or wherever, in Italy,

and then it's narrow, and when you're 30-40, forget about it, it's not, it was never strong

out. So it was always a pack, which just keeps losing riders. This kind of races, that's ideal, for Luke Plop. I think he is kind of known to have some trouble with positioning in the bunch, and you know, the races in Europe, it's a different story, but you know, it shows that Plop has a big engine, a huge engine. You just said in the pre-show that he already finished second one year, no, in the UAE 2020-23, the year that room Koavina Paul won. I believe he was second.

He was having a great time trial, and then defended that position on those climbs.

“This year, you know, third spot. Definitely, you must be an amazing shape.”

Yeah, and it shows you, I mean, this is no shade of Luke Plop, guys, incredible. He's very strong. But it shows you, he's probably 15-20 minute power. He's up there with the best, but his results aren't at least in Europe when it gets technical, like our not on par with the best riders. So, I think you could compare this Spencer with, you know, with basically a huge performance on Swift. You know, I mean, this is what the UAE 2020 is. You just get on that bike and just go up that

Especially on those climbs that are a pretty steep, you know, draft things, not that much of an advantage, and you just get automatic into the front. And so it's like a little laboratory. Actually, but if we look at for a little further down, I thought this was kind of interesting, because this is a deep field. We look a little further down. You have seventh place. I don't think we mentioned this man's name once a year. Derek G West out of his exile. He's back in seventh place, 36 seconds

down. That's not bad for his first race with a little trick. Yeah, rubble after a trouble some winter,

very trouble. Some very, you've got to must have been very stressful for him. But so that's impressive. He's recovered. Put enough decent results. Rimco Avenue pull 52 seconds back. What do you make of this performance? Not I thought he would either be winning the stage or like 10 minutes back, but no, I didn't know. Good climb. But what does this tell us? Well, it tells, it tells us that, you know, he's obviously he showed big power and in my orca in Valencia. If you then have a week

where it turns out to not be 100% usually, you know, after that defeat on on that first climb,

“I remember I don't remember the name now on that hard, super hard climb. Yeah, it was almost impossible”

to for him to be he tried and, you know, he was better. Didn't really crack or break down completely like the other day. But if you're off, you know, and it does happen. He's not in bad shape, but he's not in top shape either. And it also shows Spencer that world two races are at different level and anything we have seen until now. My orca Valencia, some good writers are there, but it's not the same level. So Ramko is in good shape, but he has work to do. And I'm pretty sure that

he's going to be able to improve. The question is, however, I don't know if we talked about that the other day is, is Ramko does he really have the talent, I mean, obviously has a lot of talent. The qualities of being a climber, the good enough climber to be with the best guys in the ground tours. Logic would say, yes, because he already finished third in the tour of France, you know, not a lot of writers can say that into this plateau, but very finished third in the tour.

And he won the Vuelta, right? Now, then the other question is, was that the best Ramko we've ever seen two years ago? Is he at this level? Is he not at the same level? I don't know.

“It's still very early in the season. So I think it's way too early to draw conclusions and”

the judge whether he can be there or not. But to me, it is a fact that when it's super steep

saying 10 to 12 percent and longer than three kilometers, I have not seen Ramko even a pool

be with the best climbers for now on the climbs like that. Yeah, the weirdest thing, though, about this, the Ramko situation that's happening is, if you think back to that tour, so he wasn't with the best guys, he wasn't with the Pagachar, but he was beating everybody else who would have been at the level of plapper, Tibery or Gaul. He's beating Phil's Gaul and then it's on those types of climbs and then what's put this regression? I don't know. No, it's not the same climbs.

For me, personally, the Tour de France is the best terrain for Ramko. It's better than the Giro and better than the Vuelta. Because the climbs typically, I mean, overall, you will even there are some steep climbs sometimes, but usually the option of the Pyrenees. It's long climbs, it's not 10, 12, 15 kilometers and usually between seven and nine percent. And that's ideal terrain for Ramko because that's a time trial. Yeah, I'm proud of those climbs. He will not respond

to a tack. He should not respond to a tacks. And if he, if he has his power output on those climbs where you can have some speed because, you know, on seven to nine percent climbs, the speed is higher,

“which is an advantage for a rider like Ramko is a time trialist. So I think for the”

for that reason, I think the tour is the best terrain of the three grand tours for Ramko, even a pool. For the moment, as long as today and Jonas are at their top,

I don't think he can get there for the moment, but he can be third.

Well, and if you think about today and Jonas,

would there be any climb that they would ever face? You'd say, that's not good for them.

“Every climb is good for them. So you can't really compete with them if you're a situational”

climber. You've got to be good all the time, or you're not going to be them. Yeah. Yeah, and then we'll get this. And then let's see. I mean, if so, if we talk about Ramko, I mean, I'm reading a lot about this because obviously the Belgian media is all over it, right? And so

they constantly keep saying, yeah, you know, okay, you know, he already, he was third already.

If you look at Ramko's situator, I mean, it's really fucked up his situation because he, you know, he could try to get closer to Jonas, but then there's still that gap between Jonas and today. Well, in Pogachar, there's a gap there, which for the moment, Vingigar hasn't been able to close and I doubt he can still close it because they're, they're still improving both, but I personally expect Pogachar to be.

“And we'll see soon when he starts racing. I personally, I mean, since the level keeps going up”

of of all the riders, Pogachar's going to be on a higher level than last year in my opinion. So let's put on frustrating for everybody else who has to race against it. And not only is that his problem, so he's not, he's got to close the gap to Jonas and he's got to close the gap between Jonas and Ted. But while this is all happening, you have guys like Isaac Del Toro getting back like their leapfrog, you know, so that's that's a problem as well.

It tough out there for him. Could you see this? He talked about he thought he was bad on that

first climb because he put too much load on his knees with the big chain ring in the time trial.

Ah, yeah, I mean, it's six, it's trying to find explain. I understand, you know, I mean, obviously he wasn't, I have, I have wondered about this with these ropes in race through the two of UAE things he's the favorite, you know, together with Del Toro wins the time trial, then doesn't perform the day after, uh, as he expects and then you try to look for explanations. I mean, every single rider does that. I don't think it's something specific. It's just, you know,

this week, uh, he was a few percent off, which can happen because he says that he wasn't completely satisfied with his time trial performance eater that that his feelings were not as he expected it to be.

I mean, lucky to be for everybody else because he did, you and six, the 56 went something

“kilometers, however, true. Yeah, I believe it was the fastest time trial he's ever done. So yeah,”

so sensation when sensations were good though, and feel like he's expected, but he doesn't the fastest time trial he's ever done. Um, I, you know, I wouldn't read too much into it. You know, it's it, he hasn't gone to altitude yet. Now he's going to take a month, a month, uh, off racing goes to altitude. Um, even a pool is a guy who responds really well to altitude and responds very well to training camps, which for the moment he has, I think he has done training camps with the team,

but not a specific training camp on, you know, to prepare is next race is Katalunia, right? Katalunia, yep, and I'm still gold. No sin Ramo. That was on there and now it's not on there. Oh, that's not super. I mean, I would definitely not go to sin Ramo for a minute. He can, there's nothing to gain there for him. It's, you know, there's nothing to gain. And that's you want to get a training ride of three and a kilometers in the legs. Now, you think, do you

think he could win? I don't, I don't, I don't rule him out. No, he's attacking, getting over the, the, the pogeo and then attacking. With, I guess, do they and, and, and, and what the thing you would have to, the thing that would have to happen is he attacks and then those guys are staring at each other. Yeah. And then, yeah. How many depth does that happen nowadays in this, and into these cycling spots, but that they're staring at? It's also not clear that he is the positioning

to, you know, that's very hard. That would be the cheapest. You know, I mean, it's, yeah. That's madness. And then, okay, he would probably, even with a great team around him, this is, this is war, the entrance to the cheapest. It's crazy. You know, everybody who has been there, I've been there as a rider, I've been there as a director. It's madness. And it gone lost worse in the last two years, because everybody goes a lot faster. You know, before you had, you had three teams who had

a strong leader, so it was kind of sprung out nowadays, they're, you know, all over the road and all the teams are there together. And I could perfectly see a situation where Ramko loses position starts in 50 to 60 position and then cast the move up. By the time you're in front, you're done. You're, it's, it's over. I would not recommend. I would not recommend

rider. All right, you heard it here first. I mean, I kind of agree. And now that you say it,

“I think about it, like even Del Toro who think how good he's a Del Toro is, he can never, he's never”

in the right position, the bottom of the Chopraza. It's like, it's really hard. We also should say Jonathan Milan wins three stages. He sweeps every sprint finish, looking pretty good. Any thoughts on Milan? I mean, it was not, he was sprinting at the same rules for it. He was one of the best early season sprinters we have. So pretty impressive. Other sprinters were definitely not there, but you know, great team focused on him. I saw the power numbers just impressive. Like,

what, I was 1800, 1900. Yes. And this, like you said about the climbs, this is equally good. Yeah, it's a very straightforward type of sprinting. Very hard to be someone like Jonathan Milan. Not that we could do. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, he won three stages as expected. He's one of the top three best sprinters in the world. And if the other two are not there, who's going to beat him plus his lead out was perfect. Yeah. And so the seven stages, five stages

one by now, four stages one by a tie-ins. Then who's two? I'll tie Betty. Yeah. Yeah. So pretty, pretty good for a tie-in cycling. But so for Italians, who Mexican? No, one Belgian. And one Belle. Yeah, because they'll go to one stage one stage one. Yeah. We've got about already.

“Pretty impressive, but I literally don't track them. And so I believe off the top my head,”

world tour wind standings currently are Jonathan Milan and Isaac Del Toro both have three world tour winds. So little track off to a pretty good start. And we haven't even got to a guard yet. But any any other thoughts about UAE tour before you move on? Um, you know, I mean, definitely an important race for UAE. They win with somebody who is not allowed to make great for the team. The shake is going to be super happy.

Machina and Jeanette, uh, obviously delivered, but because you know, if you're in UAE, choose the team UAE, it may sound, okay, because it's only two of UAE. Yeah. But the pressure that is on the team is so high. They have to win. Yeah. You know, even if it's just the two of you, but they have to win and their sponsors, their backers, don't understand if they don't win. They don't understand it. So, I mean, it's stressful, man. Let me tell you. Um, so anyways, you know, that's

also why they brought their coat or right to win and they delivered. So once again, UAE off to an amazing start of the season, um, it promises to be a repeat of 2025, if not more dominance. I don't know if that's that's scary to think about. It is impressive when you can go because you're right. You got to win UAE tour. Don't send Pagachar and you can still get it done with another guy. That's, that's, that's, that shows the depth right there. I also was just partying

thought on this race. Del Toro goes into the final stage, not leading. And I was just, uh, not surprised, but I was impressed by it just seemed so cool, headed and clinical. Like, I've got to drop

him, got to take time back, and it never really looked in doubt. He just took care of business. One,

one, the overall made it look easy if I say so. He was suffering. I mean, he was, that was, I mean, that was, that was the suffering face. Um, but yeah, I mean, he, he had confidence and, um,

“obviously, he buried also, uh, I think, you know, once, once he broke once he had blood that”

will go, we kind of, you know, collapsed. Still finished fourth, but usually, normally, he, the, what we are seeing in the other stage, he should have finished second. Yeah, I think he maybe 15 seconds. Maybe 15 seconds down, something like that, like, like, plop, because plop finished 12 seconds down. So, I mean, Tiberi should definitely be able to do that based on his level right now. So, if he finished 12 seconds down in second, Del Toro doesn't win. Yeah.

I mean, it's never easy to go in and drop someone that dropped you. Like, because remember

Del Toro got dropped on stage three. No. Well, he'd finished behind in the climb. Like, no, he started in the back and, you know, calculated and say, look at his power output. And then, well, he wrote the climb slower than Antonio. And then he had to go right a climb faster than him.

time crowd to Tiberi. Yeah, he did. Yeah. This, this is one of the, this is one of the best races

“I've seen written and not won. Like, he actually, Tiberi didn't really put a foot wrong. And”

that maybe he should have followed. So, closely, I guess, on the final stage, but we were the final climbing stage, but he wrote pretty, pretty good race. But, you know, I mean, Tiberi, on the other hand, was, you know, courageous enough on stage three to go with different

and then drop him. And basically, he was gone before Del Toro made it back to the front and started

his pursuit. Yeah. And that's, yeah, if he's not, it's probably a different story. So, he was a little badly dorsed sword by the name Spencer, you know, a little, you know, a little side note, a little rant from, for me, you know, the old grumpy guy. Man, some of these commentators, you know, and I, I listen to, I, so I, sometimes I have to switch, I watch on HBO, right? And so you are poor. So, I switch languages because one commentator starts to annoy me with the comments and,

I mean, I don't know some of these, I mean, especially the non cyclists, right? So,

“there's usually an cyclist, an cyclist, and then a narrator, right? You know, I mean, these”

clients are so hard. I mean, there's not much tactics involved, guys. It's, it's, it's, it's everybody, I mean, it's just, goes fast as you can to the top and they make, they come up with these theories. Yeah, and now this and now this, I say, you, you guys look at the profile. Have you ever, within the bike of a climb like this? It's not that complicated. You know, if you have the legs, you've got you, I mean, anyways, little side note, I, I, I, I, I got nervous with two of your e comments

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“Are you on? So I believe the last time we spoke it was the first uphill finish.”

Paul Seychoss beat one of you so impressively. Schwalameda was kind of the odd man out behind. And then the time trial happened. We didn't talk since then, but I used to rip to that time trial. Fleaper gone a one. I used to was very fast though. It was closer than I would have thought. Seven seconds, right? Seven seconds back in the hallway. No. Five seconds now. I think. And then Seychoss was 12 seconds down. If I'm not mistaken. So he took seven seconds on Seychoss.

So I think actually, this is a big, a big, this is a pet peeve of mine. These timing on the time trial, it's so confusing because they'll give you the stage timing sometimes in decimals. It's like just tell me what the, what is the number going to be? So I used to technically was six seconds behind Ghana between six and seven. Seychoss was technically 13 seconds behind Ghana. So in additional seven behind I used to super impressive for myself. I was also from Seychoss

Spencer because I was just going to say that maybe it was even. He's kind of a tall gangly guy too. You know, I was thinking, you know, like you in our last podcast you said, you know, is this the most polished 19 year old rider, right? We forgot about when I used to

men when he was 19. He finished third in the Veltai. Let's not forget this.

“He got third in the Veltai, but I don't remember him looking this good. He was pretty, I mean,”

he was also a three year younger or four year younger. He's 22 now, right? So wait, no, no, he's 23 now. So he was, he was four year younger. Four years younger than he is now, but I don't remember him looking as polished as Paul Seychoss. I mean, that, you know, yeah, Seychoss, okay, yeah, Seychoss, and this and Seychoss knows how to, you know, I mean, not saying I usually didn't know how to race, but let's not forget this guy

finished third in his first in his maiden year as a 19 year old in the Durof Spain. So pretty good also. Really, pretty good. Pretty good start from all of your professional career.

And as action, looking at this, yeah, and he's never done better in a grand tour since then. So

but I mean, he was fine in this time trial. Did a great time trial. Paul Seychoss also did a great time trial. So while made it, not as good was it was off the pace quite a bit. It was 43 seconds behind God. So he was kind, kind of out of the GC here. And then we go to stage four. So the stage after that was a sprint. Paul Monnier wins his second. We have so many talented youngsters that we're not even going to talk about Paul Monnier. 21 years old wins two stages. How carve super

impressive. And then stage five yesterday was the final stage, multiple climbs. There was technically a chance for some of the unseed. One of you, so, but one of you, so wins the stage and up they'll sprint over Oscar only with Paul Seychoss right behind them on the same time, draw made a four seconds back. Matthew Bricatello, 14 seconds back. Thomas Clawg, Clawg, five, fifth place, six seconds back. A little bit of a Clawgason's there coming back.

“This guy comes back from a big injury. I think he was on Visma, right? Yeah. And he was”

cute isn't he? He was really good two years ago. And then I don't know what happened. He, I know he did have a problem. I think a big crash if I'm not mistaken and was basically out for the whole season. Okay. That would make sense. Yeah. And now is back. This is a super talented rider, very talented rider. And now it's in the right low, future physics. Yeah, and we'll get to they had a big win with Tom Pickock, but that team's actually looking really good, better than I

would have thought. But the big notes from this stage form about 44 K to go. It's a, it's a hard climb 9% average climb. Hardest climb of the day. UAs at the front, UAs setting pace. UAs attacking, but it's not Thomas Diggs. It's, well, I made him sell my attack attacking that far out. He doesn't

get away, but Kevin Buckland and Floyd Lipowitz clip off the front. They never really had a

chance, but it kind of looked, you know, they were about maybe a minute in front of the most

get pulled in though. And I use so when it's a stage. What did you think about, what did you think about a made decision and then their decision to push on? I was wondering what all made us plan was. I guess what he wanted to accomplish was that nobody had teammates left. And then said that all the leaders were alone. And then that he probably could take advantage on the last climb of these guys looking at each other. That's my only explanation because otherwise,

you know, going with 44k to go, it's not really how you can win the stage, right? I think I made out what's going his plan was to try to win the stage. He knew that he would not win the overall. It was too far back. But, you know, he really, I mean, I used to really play the cool, you know,

he just, you know, was there with with say shots and then little track was amazing. They had three

guys coming back. Yeah. And then basically that as soon as these four guys were together, the three track riders plus little track riders plus are you so it was, you know, everything was under control.

“And the only thing that could happen potentially was that say shots had an amazing”

climb in the last two kilometers of the last climb. And I used to collapse. But I guess, you know, he knew very well how he was feeling. And, you know, there was no, there was nothing to do against. I used to. So he was he was super strong on the last stage. Yeah. There was, you weren't going to defeat him. I was a little, I was left a little, maybe, called by this. I made a performance. I thought, man, Juan Mita, and I could start to the year. Do you

know what I said last year at this time? I was worried about how Mita. I mean, he went on. Yeah, almost had a identical results to this. And then went on to win three straight world tour stages. He's building up towards the Gero Spencer. So I think, I listened to an interview. He said, you know, I'm happy with the way things are going. You know, I, I have to improve.

“But I would improve. I think he has it all figured out then.”

Yeah. And I definitely would not question. I would let him prove. I mean, last year, he looked exactly like this. And then had one of the best springs I've ever seen from a stage race. Or so, let's give him a little bit of time here. I thought I, you saw the big takeaway here is looked really happy and comfortable with the team built around him. So as you said, he will be for the teammates. And then yeah, and also Spencer, I think for us, so it's a super

important win. Same as, you know, when Ramco is this first race is a dreadful, you know, he comes

in this team. They made a huge effort to get him out of his, your e-contract and get him to the team paid a lot of money. It's super important to make that statement. They say, okay, guys, I'm here. I deliver. I win. And everybody is really around him and ready to, you know, go through

“to help to help him win races. So as a leader, as a leader of a team, I think this is a very”

important statement of our use. And also within, within his team. And I was not a poor cold water on this, but I thought, man, why don't you show his proven that he's a winner in stage race. He says, one week, do you know who won Toronto at a radical last year? Why don't you show it? He won best country the year before. So it kind of didn't show us anything. We didn't know about him. But I thought he looked comfortable. It's no easy to forget Spencer. I mean, this isn't still very young,

already having, I mean, already winning today, no embossed country. Those two races are really hard races to win. It's, I mean, the level of super high. You know, that's two of the seven, right? You have the three round tours and you have the seven big one weeks. Yeah, it's two. If you look or Emco has doesn't have a single one. Yep. Yep. So yeah, he's very good. Like, potentially one of the best, if not the best, very hard to beat. And these one week stage races,

especially ones with straightforward climbs like these. No, that's really good. So about fine.

Amazing time trial. Also, yeah, um, didn't he beat Ghana? I don't know the Toronto time trial.

Yeah, but yeah. And that's a really fast hot dog course. So there's no this. And now here in Algarve, six seconds off Ghana also, um, yeah, better, a better intermediate time than Ghana. And then lost six seconds in the final, uh, but still on a 19 kilometer time trial, you know, being so close to one of the two best time trialists in the world to, you know, you could say Ghana and Tarling and definitely Ramco's the best one. But, you know, to beat that

close to a special it like this. And then on top of that, being with the best in the hitty stages,

one will highlight of the weekend. Brutadel Sol, Volta and Alusia. As we predicted, even Ramco and

“Movistar, no one could pull him back. He was just too far ahead in the GC after that breakaway.”

And Andreas, like Nick Blacknickson, who was with him in the breakaway. Second overall,

Tom Pickock tried though. It was actually quite an interesting final stage. There was, um, a steep climb before descent and then a little bit of flap before the finish. Pickock, these team lines it up, he attacks. Ramay was kind of caught out in this little echelon. Pickock strongest guy in the racer look like, just just rode away. They couldn't reel him in, but they get close enough that Ramay preserves you over all lead. Pickock climbs into the podium. So it's Ramay,

Ramay, Ramay. Oh, Ramay. First, let Nick, Nick, Nick, can second it plus at seven seconds back. And then pickock 26. Nickson. Nick got 27 seconds back. Let's talk about Klobo. Let's get some more names in here that we can't say. Um, but so Pickock gets to get on the podium. I thought

pretty impressive ride from him. Uh, we, we saw him get what second at high end. He's kind of

been building. Looks, look like Tom Pickock's back after that third, what was he third, third place at the fault the last year on the podium? Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of building on that, I thought. Very good start. It's very good start of Pickock. You know, they did the training camp in that altitude

“camp in Chile. Uh, strange. Yeah, I didn't understand that. I think it was because of the”

zero mountain climb. And also especially because the hotel on top of the tide, it was fully booked already. I don't know. Years ahead now. I don't know how it works. But definitely great start for Pickock. You know, kind of gets back into into it where he left it off with the Vuelta and on on on stage, on on the last stage, I think, you know, he really demonstrated that, you know, he has, I would call it the pedigree of a real exquisite,

plural but thoroughbred racehorse. You know, he's, he's that kind of rider. There's not that

many riders with that specific, incredible talent. And Pickock shows sometimes those flashes.

And that attack, he did, and especially also the preparation of his team, the way they, yeah, the team was impressive. But man, Pickock, that attack was impressive. There's, you can count them on the fingers of one hand and you have too many fingers on your hand to, to, to, to pick riders who were able to do that. You know, he got caught out with, with, uh, Romeo and, and Leknesson going away. And, uh, so third place was the best he could get,

and, and he delivered. So, uh, I think it was nice to see. Romeo also, really, connect the next step into this guy's development of his career. Um, really strong rider, great time trialist. If he's in good shape, can get over the climbs and the fence and wins the overall,

“as you said, Spencer, for Movistar, it's an important victory. Um, I think the, I think the last”

Spanish rider who to win this race was Alejandro Valverde. Whoa. Yeah. In 2016 or 17. So, it's been a while. Wow. Yeah. And then also, special mention, again, Spencer, uh, for Belgian rider Tom Krabbe. Wins, again, a bunch print. He already did. Game in, it's well, the message, uh, second win for him, second win for the team. Flanders Valois. Small team, you know, they're not used to win. And so, uh, I, I, in my notes here I said, is this, once again,

they, they, they're the mole effect. They're the mole. Well, I did speak to, to, to there can, uh, he said that this guy is, is really super, super fast. We haven't seen the last, uh, the last winner of this, this young rider Tom Krabbe. Tell Jerky ruin my, my morning because my son's got to be the world's biggest UNOX fan. No idea why this is the case. And we had a, we had a, we had a bit of a cry after after they lost that sprint to Tim Krabbe. I was trying to explain

second place, not so bad. Um, and dirt, dirt rolls the director. So we got to be happy for him. I actually thought that a tack from Pickock kind of reminded me of the Vulta attack where he briefly dropped Jonas and then probably what a one the stage. Yeah. Super. I mean, so you got to do

over the top, it's, it's not easy. Um, do you know the last time of his day? So this is Ramayo's

first, um, GC win. Do you know the last time of his day one, a stage race? No, it was Mateo

Jorgensen 2023 tour of him on. Yeah. So this is a big for them. Like they kind of needed it. And then speaking of stage racing, Jonas from the garden, I was mentioning, I maybe it was the last time we spoke or the week before that, I was saying, this is, this is not a robust build up to the zero to tie it. He's going to shove to the zero, just having done one stage race. How's that going to work? And then he's added a second stage race to his calendar. Perry niece, he will do in addition to

“I believe Catalonia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it kind of makes sense, Spencer. Let's not forget”

initially the plan was to do two of UAE. Yeah. And Catalonia. Vingrad had the crash and training while documented, you know, at the console, two of UAE. And I guess they've just been waiting to see how he's, you know, got back into training where his form is now. And he added today, I think,

or yesterday, Barry niece. And I have heard rumors that he is an incredible shape.

So let's got your first thing, buddy. He's I would have liked to have seen him at UAE tour, but I'm excited. He's going to Perry niece. I think this is this is huge news, huge. And it makes more sense. It's like now like now I can kind of see the path to the zero. I was a little confused why he was just going to do one stage race, but now he's added a second one, better build up, I think. The whole family lost the idea. He also did it and he crashed and, well, yeah, the fractured

wrist no, he did. And then his teammate went on a win-it. Yeah. Yeah. That was, yeah, that was a strange I kind of forgot about that. Yeah, the fractured wrist at Perry niece. And I had that

concussion, but I think, yeah, in a concussion. And then, and then goes on to finish second of the

two or first the ball to self. It seemed to recover, okay, from it. I think I'm just, I would guess he's going to win Perry niece. I'm quite curious now to see how this plays out. Well, I suppose that's with the parentheses. I guess so I don't see him on the start list right now. Even Romeo is. I'll put him in parentheses. That's big pressure for them, except for Paul Sajas. So maybe would you do you, you know, away from it, you know, given some more time? Would you send him to the two of

“fronts? Sajas? Yeah. No, probably not. That's what I know. I would not probably recommend anything”

to do that. He tells their first sprint. You know, Bernard, he no gave, gave an interview, not so long ago. And he said something really, really interesting. And I kind of agree with him. And he said, okay, one should Paul Sajas go to the tour. And he says, when he's ready to win it. That's his first time he should go. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a good point. Yeah. So I guess, I'm going to follow what he knows advice. It's a good advice. You actually don't,

yeah, you, you rarely see tour winners building to tour winning. Like they show up in the ready. Actually, the guy before, sometimes it's happened that, you know, guys started and they had a taste of the tour. And, but you see less and less. He know, for example, he won his first two to France. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But since since 85, no other French writer has won the tour, imagine that's better. It's been 40 years, 40 years too. I think it's too much pressure.

I think that's that is like suffocating in a pressure. I do think that they should not sit

“in this year. But yeah. You have to add, I mean, FedEx Gal, who was fifth at the tour, right?”

Is not going. He's going to the zero. So who else am I going to send for the tour? Are they just, they were not going for GC and we tried to get safe bowl for sprint stages. I don't know. Well, you hear like Jonas, Jonas is first tour. He finished his second. Yeah. You know, like you, that's, you actually see that a lot. Egan Monroe would be the one that pushes against it. Remember, any of Sonom's guy at the time, I believe. And he, he just got one under his

belt and then he won the next year. Well, but yeah, I think that is a lot to ask of Paul Seashoffs right now. But, uh, get to talk to you and thank you for coming on. Okay. Thanks, bye. Goodbye.