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"Andral tires." So this is now the third time that we see that we see, we see that UAE

is using the time trial tires of continental, I know another team, where the riders constantly push the mechanics to put the time trial tires on their wheels because they're obviously fostered,

“but I think in the case of a rider like Jonas who's the heavy favorite, you have to go for safety,”

you have to try to control the controllables. Everybody, welcome back to the move plus, I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Bernal, we are breaking down stage 11 of the "Jurved Italian One" by and then we'll also preview. Stage 12, don't forget we're asking where's outcomes, outcomes is at the end of this episode, end of every episode, we do a mini outcomes episode. But Johan Jonathan Arvius wins from the

breakaway. His third win of the "Jurved Italian" fourth for UAE, this was no accident. This guy was the strongest guy of the day. He was unbelievable, being in Rick Moss and in a two-up sprint, I don't think in Rick Moss really believed he could win, I kind of look like he wanted to get caught. So he wouldn't have to sprint against Narvius. Diego Ulici, blast from the past, finishes third, 11 seconds behind. The breakaway splintered, there was a chase group coming after them.

The GC group comes in three and a half minutes down without issue net company inios, kind of taking control of the front of the peloton. Jonas finigard, hover, he's so good,

so good at hovering around. I don't know if you've noticed this, but he's always always

seems to be in the right place in the group. The day just a quick summary of the day started,

“it was one of these very similar parkhors to stage eight, I believe, where it's a fast flat start”

for the first half, goes into mountain hills for the second half that has an odd dynamic of everyone wants to get into the move, but it's very easy to mark. People out of the move, the type of riders that get into the move aren't the type of riders that can stay away on the mountains, pretty interesting to watch, actually. I'd add a great time watching the beginning of the stage. There is a breakaway with a small gap going into the climb with the round 90 K to go.

Jonathan Narvias has back in the peloton. He's been marked by Egan Bernal all day. Probably thinking, "Oh, this guy's probably going to win. All mark him. Also, if I go up the road, I cause problems for other GC teams." Win, win. There seemed to be Vismo, though, was not allowing this to happen. There seemed to be maybe even a conversation. Narvias eventually, late this guy was going so good. He floated off the front. He'd even attack off the front with

88 K to go, on one of the climbs, and Rick Moss is off the front, and then he's in a chase group behind the breakaway that's riding away 40 seconds behind with 83 K to go. He starts sprinting. He attacks across, gets across, clean by himself, 1 kilometer later. So closes 40 seconds, and 1 kilometer on a climb. Very impressive. And then it was just a game of sitting in, not doing too much. There was a crash of Leonard Bennett felt, "Fleep was on a Christian screen. He's showing you how hard

this breakaway or how talented, how strong this break was if those three guys were in it with Narvias within Rick Moss. In Rick Moss attacks in the file climb. Narvias marks him. They descend down to the finish, and then there was a two-up sprint. It kind of like Moss could have closed the

door, but he didn't Narvias wins the sprint for his third stage. But Johann, what was your takeaway

“from the day?" Yeah. Spencer, I mean, I think the takeaway is how strong”

advice is, and how much he was in control of every single situation in this stage. There was no way he was going to miss the breakaway, unless the breakaway would have gone on the flat a lot earlier and you're caught out and you're all of a sudden you're a minute two minutes behind. And you can't, you can't close the gap. But yeah, I mean, he was the strongest in every single situation. He said in his interview that Henryk Moss had him on the limit on the climbs. I don't believe that.

Yeah, I don't believe that. Not on these climbs. If it would be a longer, longer, steeper climb maybe. But by the way, great comeback from Henryk Moss, man. I mean, he was all of the GC. He was very, very aggressive today. And being in front with Narvias, he knew he was Narvela win. But I think for his morale, it's good that he was fighting for the victory because he really disappointed in the first two mountain stages. And he came here for GC. So that was good for

him. Also interesting to see Chris Harper in that breakaway who was basically the only guy who was interested in having the gap as big as possible, because he gets into the top 10 now. That's for some riders a goal on itself. Don't know if he's going to stay there. But Harper's a strong

looking, you know, whatever. There was a situation that he knew he let Harper do a lot of work, he let ending Moss do a lot of work. But every time he needed to correct the situation,

“he corrected it in no time. I mean, at least that's what it looks like. I'm sure he was also”

suffering and going full out. But yeah, I mean, there's a three stage wins for Narvias. That's really impressive. Four stage wins in the last H stages. Since their three riders crash for UAE,

that's incredible. And I think a few podcasts to go, we said, you know, this is not the last

stage win for UAE. So yeah, I mean, here we go. We already have another one. And we were just past half way now. There's still 10 stages to go. The atmosphere in that team must be incredible. And so there's probably going to be another stage win for UAE at some point. But they can ride relaxed now. It's being in that situation in a team. It's really nice because from now on, in a grand tour, the suffering is physical, but above all mentally. You know, and there's a lot

of riders who are now basically already so tired that they want to drag themselves into the finish

in Rome. This is not the case in UAE right now. So, so listen, I mean, great win for him.

Whatever his situation is for the future, his market value keeps going up and up. He's out of contract to, you know, maybe he has signed a new deal yet, or maybe he hasn't. We don't know that. But anyways, whatever he, wherever he's going, it looks like he's not staying at UAE. The biggest rumor is that he's going to net company emails comes from there by the way, three years ago he was riding there. Yeah. And so I guess his value goes up and up and up.

“Why is he living in UAE? I still don't. I think it's for, I think it's for owner opportunities.”

You know, I mean, he's now, what is he 29? 29, yeah. So, especially for the classics, right? Yeah, I mean, and there's a lot of races this rider can win if he, if he is, he's the protected rider. One day races, stage wins. And, and I guess also, you know, any other team who is a need of a rider who can win races, that's not the case in UAE, but that's the case in emails. And so, I think if he goes back to emails or net company emails, I think that makes a lot of sense.

And the contract will obviously be very interesting. So it's that contract was signed before the year to tell you. Well, you know, I don't know whose agent is probably going to be either either Carrera or Aquadro, both of them, they're smart enough to put bonuses in there, running bonuses. You know, before the season finishes. So, if it's signed, it's still going to go up.

Oh, man. Yeah, this guy is, he's incredible. I mean, we actually, it's like, you know,

when you're in a team manager of a team who has signed his riders and, okay, great, we have it. He's not winning. Stop winning now for that. Turn or beat this guy, come on, we can't afford this. But we could, we could talk for two hours about the stage and we wouldn't do what he did just this. I mean, it was so impressive. He was marking, you know, the only what five guys in the team. So he, they don't have a lot of firepower. He's marking a lot of stuff himself. On the flats,

doesn't work. And it's like, I'm not going to worry about it. Because I'm just going to break away when we get to the climb. And you've in Rick Moss. Like, in Rick Moss was working hard to get away from the group. And he's one of the best climbers in the world. And Jonathan our bias goes with them. Doesn't get dropped by him. Winds a sprint. Is there anything mosque could have done? Like, what is the plan there? Yeah. There's nothing, nothing he could have done. Nothing he could have done.

“I mean, the only thing would be maybe, you know, try to put him on the limit in the downhill and try to,”

you know, make, make him take risks for him to crash. But I think the vice better, the sender than in Rick Moss. So yeah. And advice was actually leading the downhill. So no, there was nothing in Rick Moss could have done. He did everything right. Now, nothing, nothing he could have done. Maybe you could say maybe you would have had a better chance if they were five riders together and then just a two. But that's also debatable. Because for in Rick Moss to get away,

on rhythm, not with an attack. But no, I think in Rick Moss, but he had to do, it was nothing he could do to in the stage today. And you notice Red Bull had two riders up there. They had Alexander Vlasov with Nico Dense. Yeah. Really, actually good tactic. He send a bigger, a big round rider with a skinny rider. He helps him get in the move and then he drives the move. Is this, what would you make of this? Is this an admission that maybe things aren't going

the way they want the GC? I mean, obviously, they know they're not going to win the Giro.

I think that's clear, unless Hindley kind of has his last week, which would be incredible.

But I still think it would be very difficult. So on stages like today, guys should go in breakaways. You know, you can't just, if you have a rider who's, especially depends the team's Spencer, right? I mean, Red Bull, okay, they, they may have a possibility to have some of the other podium, right? Whether it's Hindley or Polizari, we don't know yet. But that's kind of expected from a team like Red Bull. So, you know, you can't just play all your cards and

“dedicate all of your riders to that one rider who maybe is going to be on the podium. You have to”

go for opportunities. I think today, the fact that Vlasov was in there was good, although I saw he was struggling a few times. And, you know, it's not the Vlasov we've known, you know, Vlasov, they, they hit it okay, but Vlasov has been on a higher level than what he's riding now at this Giro. And since, you know, since a few races already, even last year, I didn't see Vlasov

on the level we knew from him a few years ago, but, but never, never count out a guy with, with

Vlasov and talent, which Vlasov definitely is super talented rider. He could have won the stage, but he, yeah, on the climbs as I, he was too much on the limit, I think. But at least they were there. There are other team, other teams didn't have anybody there, right? Of course, I mean, but I didn't have anybody Vlasov didn't have anybody without some purpose. Enails didn't have anybody, you know? No, they were, there was a bit of, uh, I don't know,

I didn't have a deal was made, because they were trying to get in the move and Vlasov was marking them

“every time. Yeah. And then I think a detant was called perhaps. And then I saw that on, in some,”

some sections, uh, Enails was, was basically driving the peloton. I don't know if that was with the invention, uh, of, of bringing the breakback or just keeping out on small and good position. I think, I doubt, I don't think they were, because if you look at the times in the climbs, they were like, they got to the front at the bottom of the hardest climb of the day. And I think the gap actually went up. Yeah. That climb. So obviously, they're not pushing.

I think, yeah. And people can scoff at this. We've scoffed at it. Of like, you know, you, you get the rider to believe. You show them that you believe. But oursman is a guy who, I think he's, he was open about this before the zero that he is the main thing he struggled with is believe, you know, himself and kind of getting his own head. So maybe that is what they're doing there. They looked good. Yeah. What did you make of? So Visma in the, like, in the final, first of all,

you know, it's been a guard sprinting himself to the front of the group for the final. The son, leading down the descent, no teammates with them. And then he only has two teammates with them when they get over that climb. What is that a tactic by them to save riders? Or are they hurting right now? What's going on? Oh, I mean, this is not, you know, two riders left. So who was, it was SEPCUS and then Piga Zoli, the climbers. I mean, that was a hard climb. There was what

30, 35 riders left. They've done already quite a bit of work in this in this zero, although lot less than what a big favorite team normally should have been doing because of circumstances because other teams were in the lead or came up in doing a job for them, but still they're down

“one rider also. They lost the Caldermond very early. So I think, I think it was normal to have only”

three riders there. Didn't look like it was never a problem for them. I do have one, I remarked

one thing I saw a quote from Jonas, which surprised me and keep surprising me, not just about him, but about choices, some riders and some teams keep making. And I was thinking, was that maybe also one of the reasons why net company in Ayos was trying to drive it, especially on the downhills

He was using entrial tires. So this is now the third time that we see, we see that UAE is using the time trial tires of continental. I know another team where the riders constantly push the mechanics to put the time trial tires on their wheels, because they're obviously faster,

“but I think in the case of a rider like Jonas who's the heavy favorite, you have to go for safety.”

You have to try to control the controllables. I mean at least, maybe I'm all fashion thinking,

but I said this already. That's what we always did. Back in the days, it was different.

We worked right right 20, was 23, 21, and 19 related tires, completely different story. But still, he said that Jonas said he regrets the choice and he didn't feel confident in the downhills. That's something that shouldn't happen. First of all, he should not ride time trial tires, especially in the days like today. What did he have to game by going? Exactly. Exactly. I mean, my second question is also, is that also, because he feels a little bit

off that he wants a little bit extra advantage with better tires or faster tires, it shouldn't really make a difference for him in a stage like today. I can understand that, you know, mount up finish, you go with, I mean, but then he still

have it, but if it's basically one, one climb, you can go with time trial tires. That's fine.

But you know, today was good weather, you know, didn't was no rain prediction and still he said he felt he didn't feel safe. Obviously, that's also an information that the other teams have, because, you know, I mean, in the bus parking in the morning, people go and, you know, the go check out the bikes or motor teams and they look what gear do they have, what tires are they're riding. So for sure, in a new thing, you got was on time trial tires today.

Is that a reason why? I mean, I'm just thinking out loud, maybe not. But I would explain why he then sprinted to the front of the group for the last descent. Like, yeah, I'm going to slow these guys down. But he definitely wanted to be in front, but didn't feel comfortable. So I don't understand these choices, um, and stages like today. Um, yeah, I would just ride the normal safe tires, which are also pretty fast. Yeah, we're not riding. They're riding Vittoria. I

“know, I think they're riding Vittoria, but yeah, stuff like that shouldn't happen. Super technical”

descent, too. It is a strange to us. Very strange, um, neck up any anios had five riders in that front group, and they've not been great as a team. So the chose things are turning around. Here's a little, you said, Orange, Ben's not going to win this race, and he's probably not for being honest. But I went back and looked at this 60% of his career wins, not just grand tour, stage with 60% of his wins have come in the last seven days of a grand tour. So I do wonder if Vismus

fail a little. Like, I, I don't know, I wouldn't, I would love having him 90 seconds back, especially if Jonas maybe is trying to have speed his way to his hero title. That would give me a little bit of pause. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is something to have in mind. You know, the guy is obviously, you know, he started this, this hero really well compared to other, other occasions where he

lost time in the first few stages. This time he didn't lose any time. He's not also virtually in seconds.

“If we, if we don't count a lot of you, and I think normally Arnold's mom will finish ahead of”

it all you. But, but yeah, I mean, it's definitely when I don't, I just don't see him good enough of a climber to to make life to the 90 on Jonas. One, 90 seconds is hard. Unless someone totally falls apart, like even think about Pagachar when he was at, you know, 20, 24 tourter friends and he's blowing up the pair and he's, he's not finishing that much far. You know, Jonas very still in the vicinity. And those are some of the best climbing

performances we've ever seen. So it actually is hard to pull back, even feel a skull. I think about feel skull is 157 back. It's hard to pull that back on a guy like, yeah, I think especially on on, on Arnold's one that's, I think it's more going to be more of the contrary, Spencer, is that Jonas is going to take time on Arnold's mom on the climbs. That's true. That's

of Jonas right now reminds me of Contador when he was not at his best, but he's still winning

grand tours. Do you remember the stage in the zero where Landa, it was Landa and a rule get up the road, Contador's isolated. He does a great job. He limits losses and wins the race. Could we like, like, think of like stage 14, it starts on a 16k long climb. It's one of these classic outpined days where you just have like, up down, up down with some valleys. Is Vista going to be there in force? Like, what happens if, if, if Bernard gets up into the

“break away? Like, do they have that, that's the only thing I'm kind of thinking about.”

I don't know if they're not, they're not as on the problem for Jonas. Well, let's say, but I mean, he, eventually he would be, I just wonder if, like, they clearly didn't want him in the break today. They didn't want to spawn in three minutes, that's for sure. But I don't know that that now that I'm thinking about old Contador victories and how he, how people kind of went at him, does make me think about these outpined stages and how Vism was

going to approach that realistically, a modern cycling doesn't matter. Sit back, someone's going to pull for you. Or it's going to come to the front. Who cares? Whatever. So yeah, maybe it won't be a problem. No, I think I listen, I mean, even if Jonas is a bit off, he's still, you know, if he, if he just backs off a little bit, he's not going to lose, if he loses time at all, he's not going to be a lot. Yeah. I mean, that was weird. We're with the time trial tires.

I don't get that. Since if you looked at the park horse for today, you'd say pretty technical descent. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure UAE was riding the TT tires again today. Also, they they so much for. Yeah, it has to be mostly mental, right? It cannot be that fast. I mean, listen, no, I mean, listen, I know, but also, you know, the TT tires are also, they have good grip.

“You know, it's, I think it was just a bit of a risk in the, in the rainy stages for, for UAE.”

But, but yeah, I mean, I don't know. The fact that he said it himself today, I think was telling there was obviously, I mean, otherwise you wouldn't say that, you know, whether you would say you would just keep it quiet. Or he doesn't care, right? I was, I don't know, I'm sorry. I appreciate it. He only said it to the Danish media, not to the international. Interesting. Interesting. That does happen that people, there's like an NBA player who went home to Germany,

he was saying all this stuff, he shouldn't have said, but I'm like, and his mind, he was like,

they're never going to hear this. They don't speak German. They can't figure it out. Yeah.

So, only five teams of one stages were at stage 11, five teams of one. It feels like we say this more and more in grand tours. We're like, oh, it's only six teams at one stage UAE's one four. Siudal's one two, Estana's one two, business one two, net company, and he has the little engine that could, with the getting a stage when yesterday, doesn't boat that well for smaller teams. I mean, Siudal would be the smallest of those teams, but they're very specialized in what we do.

Yeah. No, listen, I mean, there's a lot of teams who are going to get away with nothing here. You know, if you look, I mean, Red Bull hasn't won a stage huge team, they don't try to have them won a stage. And the thing is, you know, it looks like they're going to have to be very lucky to win a stage, actually, these teams. Yeah. So, well, yeah, we'll see. We'll say, I mean, we still have 10 stages to go. So plenty of opportunities,

“but, you know, the hard mountain stages are going to be won by the big teams, right?”

I guess sometimes, no, if you think about stage 20 last year, would Chris, Chris Harper wins. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like sometimes those actually are the optimal stages, because the GC thing, you know, the GC situations at its own ecosystem. But that that takes us to tomorrow's stage. Do you want to talk about it? Do you have anything left for today? For today, not really. Not really. No, I think we've covered most of it. If not everything.

I just people, I don't have the power numbers in front of me yet, but I bet someone like Navaya's the power numbers were ridiculous. Like, even before he gets into the breakaway,

it was so hard for the first hour and a half to hours of racing.

Yeah, I think it was it. Only 46, 47 kilometers per hour or something. They were like, I think they were like, at some point, when hour ahead of the fastest schedule, yeah. And then obviously in the last part of the stage, it slowed down because it was, it was hilly, but again, again, I find a super fast stage. And it takes a toll. I mean, you can just, you can see people being fatigued. So, that's only going to get worse and worse. But let's say

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cloud two categorized climbs in 11k climb at 4% and then followed immediately by a 5.5 kilometer long climb at 6% and then it descends in the last like from the top of the last climb, it is roughly 50 kilometers to the finish line. You mentioned little track. One of the teams that needs needs a win here that this could be a good stage for Jonathan Milan. Even if it's not,

“they need it. They need to make it one. How do you see this playing out and who do things going to win?”

Yeah. I mean there's several scenarios, right? I mean I think a breakaway is going to be difficult. Still possible but difficult. A complete bunch print is a possibility that those climbs or cat tree climbs but I see it more as a sprint over a juice peloton, a Spencer. I can foresee a scenario like we had on was it stage, I don't remember what stage it was, when the guy from Astana, one was his name Thomas Guillermo Silva. Yes. So I mean and especially with the performance of

and like must today, the role in the team, I think the Moro Movistar is going to drive a hard pace on that on those climbs, especially on that last climb, but did you say 5.5 kilometers, 6%? Yeah. Yeah. And so the center immediately, which means the Moro is, or Luis Olar doing win in the sprint. Okay. Yeah. Like that. I guess I would say well that's a long way from the top of the climb to the finish but that's essentially what they did on stage. Yeah. That's stage four.

“So I think it was, it's probably a bit closer but still, you know, people are tired now.”

It's, the teams are not complete anymore. Some guys are, you know, it's difficult to organize a chase from now on. So, um, so yeah, I think I think that's probably going to be the center. It may still all come back, right? And in that case, I'm going, I'm giving my preference

better than Joel Tamila in this year. He is a very good climber, very good climber. How do you

think he's been handling this race? Yeah, I mean, you know, it's, it's not his first ground to a

right. He already did the zero, but, you know, he's still young, so he might get, he might be tired.

“But, um, I think Paul Manjec is doing, he's been doing all right, man. The Moro is a great”

opportunity for him if there's a chance to stay close and make it back. And he has a whole team dedicated to him. You know, they have nobody for, nobody for GC and they have a few guys who read a writing strongly, you know, like Stephen is writing well, uh, they have a couple of Italians there who, uh, who ride well, um, on the team. So, um, yeah, I would say if it's a, if it's a sprint or if a sprinter can make it back, it's probably going to Manjec who makes it back

before Milan. So, we have the Beninots. They're out. Paul, yeah, plus 275 is Undraft King's Draft King's sponsor of the move for the two of the friends, uh, Paul Manjec plus 275, John of the Milan, plus 350 Ben Turner plus 400, grown up again, plus 1200, Tobias loomed. Apparently, you don't say the end reason, just say Tobias loomed, plus 1200, Olaur is plus 1200. So, that's a very good hicc, actually, for a wild card. If that's all. So, the, the betting, the betting company's

assume it's going to be a pure bond sprint. Yes. Okay, and I do, I'm not sure, I'm not so sure.

“I think Olaur is a great hedge on that. Um, I, I, I, I, is it would he get beat by an”

advice though? Is that the problem? Is he happy? I'm last time. I work the finish like we haven't checked to finish the, the detail of the finish. It's kind of slightly uphill. Okay, okay, that's obviously, but just very slightly uphill. I mean, can I see Velow viewer? Let's see. If it's, uh, slightly uphill, and of course, it's the different story. Yeah, let me, let me, let me, let me know. No, no, that's fine. It's nice. No, it's, no,

you know, I can tell us exactly the grade for this final. It's what's 2% max. So, in the last kilometer, yeah, it's like a percent. Yeah. So, if anything, that's better for like, it's one of these roundabouts with an inside the funnel. Okay, like why do they do this? By the, if anything, that's better for like the pure ventures, because then they can really separate themselves. I do, I'm having a hard time between,

I bet the last two days, I got gone right, I got no vise, right? No vise was plus 800 interestingly, and Chacone was plus 300, but then Chacone rolls up to the, like the mix on this morning,

“because yeah, I'm sick. Okay, well, okay, why was he plus 300? Did anyone have this information?”

You can't always trust that money versus Milan. I mean, that would be something, if money, I do

tend to agree with you that money is probably going to win. That would be pretty incredible. If he did win, I mean, he looked so fast the last time we saw him back in Naples in when the stage, I'm going to go Milan plus 350, because he needs it. And so the same, same as I always say, Spencer Milan is already, he's still, I mean, he's not, how old is he? Long, but he's five, then he's six. It's like in the prime of his career. Yeah, he's mid 20s. But he's, you know, he's already

done a few, like a bunch of ground tours has the engine, you know, these guys, and to stay at that level, you know, they don't, they don't lose any speed, if not the contrary, whenever he's kind of fading away, guys like that, you know, stay, stay the same. So if Milan has a chance to beat,

Manje, it's going to be in the second part of the zero. So tomorrow could be an opportunity frame.

What about Gran amagan on that note? Yeah, um, obviously Gran amagan has, you know, he has been struggling more, suffering more to get over the clients so far. Like today would have been hard, you know, these are not the days. No, no, I was, what was today? 3,000 meters. Yeah, yeah, that's a hard stage. So it depends, it depends. But listen, I mean, last time we saw him sprint, he definitely had the speed to win. So, I mean, I would, I wouldn't mind

it to be a pure sprint tomorrow that we can see all the real sprinters fighting it out that would be nice. Something we did notice though, like today was four and a half hours, the time cut was 35 minutes,

to go Milan, you're going Manje who lars the wild card. Yeah, I like, I like that a lot.

Frankly, I don't know if an orviage should be my wild card. What, what not? Corbin strong. Not

“a Corbin strong. Corbin strong. Yeah, Corbin strong. Although I think Corbin strong is probably a bit”

stronger in harder finishes. Yeah. Yeah. I think he has less speed than these big, big sprinters.

Corbin strong is not a heavy guy. You know, he's he's pretty lightweight for his printer. Yep.

“Okay. Well, thanks, Johanna, anything else before we take off? No, let's see what tomorrow brings.”

Thanks. All right. We'll be back for a stage 12 and improving stage 13 tomorrow. I'll see you all on,

next time.