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the physical appearance of the whole planet. Everybody shows up, like super fit, it's crazy. You know, everybody has a fresh haircut, but you don't see it on a racist. Everybody has special clothes. Everybody has veins where they hadn't, and they didn't have veins before.

“No, the show divines, you know, like their ripped. That's what the tour de France and the”

preparation does and but you're not looks incredibly skinny. You might be describing the move, if you're on, everybody showed up in tip top shape for this year's episodes, but does this move the needle for, you know, let's say Jonas's goal is to win the tour de France. Does this day this move the video? It's a great start. I mean, as I said, you know, it doesn't mean anything in terms of

the overall result, but it's been two years since he has never been ahead of Pogachar at any point

in the last two to the front. And now he's 11 seconds with 12 seconds ahead. So, I mean, I think it's great, a great start. Everybody welcome back to the move plus some Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johann Bernill for a special tour de France edition of the show. We just wrapped up the move, now we're here for the move plus to get Johans take to get the real analysis. You could say Johan on what happened in the stage as well as what's going to happen on stage two when we do

our predictions and pick our winner. But Johan, first of all, how are you and what was your take

“of the day? Move of the day? What did you think was the move of the day? We're going to brand it there?”

Yeah, I mean, Spencer, yeah, I'm good. I'm good, you know, and Madrid's very hot, you know, nice to be inside with AC and watch the race as it's 36, 37 degrees during the day, which is what 95 or 100. Yeah, maybe 100. Yeah, that's close to 100. Yeah, so it's pretty hot. But yeah, interesting stage, as we expected, a very interesting result, I don't think it has a lot of impact on what's going to come for the next three weeks, at least not amongst the favorites. But, you know,

Visma, Lisa Baik, they had a strong team and my move of the day or Kiki, take away of the day, is the way Visma wrote compared to other teams. And if you look closely, but I mean, at least from what I've seen is that they, in first of all, they had a strong team. They had some riders like Afini and Amiral, some New Yorkers and some guys who were really hammering, but they saved their treat, light weights for the final. Maybe Jonas has taken samples, but not many. They were sitting on the

wheel. And they had these three guys, Kus and Paganzole and Jonas sitting on the wheel. And they were already

“with those other five guys. They had the fastest times everywhere. So, I think that was the key”

to their victory today that they could keep their, their, their, their light guys.

Subquisitive pull, then New Yorkers did an amazing pull and then Paganzole did that lead out into

the last climb where, where Jonas basically then hammered to the finish. The way they organized this time trial, they thought about this very, very carefully. Maybe some other teams have done the same, but they did it to perfection. I think that was the secret to their victory, was the way that they saved their leader. And then these other two climbers for the final three, four kilometers. Interesting. I mean, that's, we did not go through that in the center here, but that's, that's a

really interesting way to think about a George thought that Paganzole should not have come forward on the final climb. What do you think about that? He thought that that maybe slowed Jonas down. I don't think so. I mean, obviously, you know, you have a plan and then in a team time trial,

nothing goes 100% to plan. Never because they're so many variables. I think,

Paganzole was probably supposed to be on Jurgensen's wheel, and he was not. So then he came, he sprinted, he did what he did, 50, 80 meters, 800 meters max, but it was still, it was still, you know, a little, a little lead out into the climb. I think Jurgensen was impressive. That pull was incredible. And, and also, you know, the real proof that they're going 100% with only one objective is to win this Tour de France. You could have said, you know, Jurgensen,

and break away. You know, those times I've gone, I think, you know, we always talk about having

two or three options. But if you have one of the favorites in this case, it's my with Jonas finger guard, who has already won the Tour de France twice. It's just all for one guy.

“So, I think, you know, the victory of Visma was definitely interesting, and also,”

man, I mean, I can tell you, okay, what does Pogaccia lose 11 seconds, 12 seconds, maybe today? It's not much, it's nothing, but winning the team-time trial is magical for a team. And especially at the start of the of Ogreville Grand Tour, it brings the team together, you know, dinner table today is going to be amazing, and the bus, it's going to be amazing. The more the different stage, of course, and everything can change, but starting like this,

as a morale booster, there is nothing better than this than winning the team-time trial as a team. So advantage Visma and advantage Jonas for the moment, I don't think Pogaccia will be worried too much. If you look at the team, just for the team-time trial, I would say, you know, they were probably equal. I mean, I forgot to mention, computers, like that's a big engine also. But, but UAE was behind, you know, they were 13 or 14 seconds behind at the last split,

and they could never, they could never recuperate that. So,

the way they rode, what you see that Pogaccia and the total, we're taking pulse like the other

“guys, I think that's what made the difference at the end.”

Yeah, we were debating, you know, like if you're net company in yours, what, what's your strategy? Do you go for this stage win? Do you try to nurse along a GC contender? But, you know, I agree with you that if you win this team-time trial, and you're in yellow, like that's, it's not enough for Visma, obviously, but for a lot of teams, that's a big deal, big deal. Yeah, you feel great. You could even hear the Visma guys on the audio after the stage. They buzz it, like buzzing, like, yeah,

you know, like cap five is almost after a race. So, it's so excited. You kind of forget that when you don't, when you're not there all the time. And also, especially because it's like an unbelievable relief because let's not forget, I mean, not just for Visma and UAE and Red Bull, and that company, you know, for all the teams, this is a day of, it's stress from the morning. It's the whole day, it's stress. It's like a huge relief. Every team,

I just saw some images. There are some teams that have crashes. You know, I think a Stana crash really hard. And some other riders also crashed hard. So, a guy, was it a guy from Gacharurau who crashed also, man, also, my other guys. But this is a relief for everybody. Okay, this is, this is over now. You know, the stress is gone. Everybody stressed, you know, some teams are stressed because they think they can win. Some other teams are stressed because

they want to limit the losses. Other teams are stressed because they don't want to lose their leader. They know they're not going to win, but they want to protect their leader. The guys who are the most stressed in a day like today is the mechanics. It's a nightmare for these guys. You know, it's nine or eight in this time, in this case, eight time trauma machines where a lot can go wrong. And then these eight special time trial bikes together, you know,

having to ride for 20 kilometers together, so much can go wrong. That everybody's today is like, okay, okay, let's, let's start the tour. The tomorrow is a normal stage, but anyway,

great start for, for Visma. Amazing. And it's nice to see Jonas after, you know, it's been

more than two years. We haven't seen him in the yellow jersey, at least not at the tour of France. We have seen him in the yellow jersey and other other stage races, but not in the tour. And yeah, great, great to see him back. One is biggest weakness has been time traveling, or I would say is biggest inconsistency. You know, he's been up and down. He had a bat, a bad time trial at the zero. Didn't have a great opening time trial at the tour for opening week,

time trial at the tour of France last year. So this kind of pushes against that narrative. Clearly, he's time traveling incredibly well. I got worried, yesterday, you said he's down from

“60 kilos at the zero to 57 kilos at the tour. That's what I've read, that's what I've read.”

He looks incredibly fit, incredibly lean. They all do. You know, if you look at Ramco, he looks lean. I mean, that this is the tour, the tour of France. I mean, it's incredible what the tour of France does to the physical appearance of the whole Hamilton. Everybody shows up

Everybody has special clothes. Everybody has veins where they hadn't. They didn't have veins before.

“No, they show the veins. They're ripped. That's what the tour of France and the preparation does.”

And with Jonas looks incredibly skinny. You might be describing the move, if you're on. Everybody showed up in tip-top shape for this year's episodes. But does this move the needle for, you know, let's say Jonas's goal is to win the tour of France. Does this day? It is. It is. It's a great start. I mean, as I said, it doesn't mean anything in terms of

the overall result. But it's been two years since he has never been ahead of Pugachar at any point

in the last two to the France. And now he's 11 seconds or 12 seconds ahead. So, I mean, I think it's a great start. It's great. I mean, we're going to talk later on about tomorrow's stage. It's amazing for tomorrow's stage, I think, because I think we're going to see some fireworks tomorrow. But above all, for the mentality, the mental boost for Visma and for Jonas,

“I think it's that's it's huge. Yeah. It is big mentally. I guess the thing that the other side of”

this equation is, you know, net company Nios gets second. So Visma wins with Jonas Vinaigarde

taking the first time this team is behind them. David David begins only. I don't know if you notice

20 seconds back. He was top 10 at the zero. Are they going to do this thing again? We're picking Zollis hangs around up there. Also, I can't believe this guy's doing his second grant tour over here. Well, the thing comes on before this. We're talking later about that. We'll see. We'll see how far that goes since the writer will see. You know, today, I was, you know, I was presently surprised to see him there as one of the last three writers. I mean, at the same time,

then I, I mean, I heard his interview and he said, and that's where I really, I mean, I could see it already during the footage, but the footage they went from team to team. It was a

“bit an organized, I think. But he, in his interview in Italian said that he started relatively”

fresh on the last four kilometers because he hadn't pulled it around. Yeah, I, the whole team, I can't say enough. I couldn't say like enough nice things about this team, just the way they come in and you would not look at that. I was a little down on them, frankly, when I was watching them or before, before they started, I was like, they don't have the horses of some of these other teams. And they just, they, I don't know, they seem to, they plan it out and it comes to fruition

in a way that I wouldn't expect it to with the pieces they have. So Kudos to Visma. So net company in a second, how how disappointed are they? How are they feeling on you on? I mean, obviously, we have to ask ourselves the question, you know, what would have happened if Kevin vocal line doesn't flat? Yes. Is that going to change something? What was it seven seconds? Two, for the, he was, it's eight seconds. Sometimes they run up and down. Yeah. Yeah, it's eight

seconds. I mean, I don't know if that was, it was going to have to make a difference. I think the plan was to do, to have vocal line, I mean, he's their man for GC, but I don't see him finishing in the top five. So I think they made the right call. They, they went for the victory. I think they had to do that. And it looked to me like, it was not the plan that Ghana would be the first over the finish. The plan was that Ghana would come in and then basically launch vocal line. I don't know

if your vocal line would have gone faster than Ghana up to the last climb. I know that's the

near use for that was, that was some incredible power there from from people Ghana at the end.

By the way, I mean, I heard you guys talk on the move. I think Bradley said that he thinks that Ghana and even Ramko, if they would have done the whole time trial on their own, they could have done better and one thing, I'm going to disagree with that. I think it's a bit too far, too far-fetched. They're a great time trialist, but you know, if you do that whole time trial on your own without having any recovery and not sitting on the wheels, I mean, those last two climbs, you're not going

to go that fast as they went now. And that's where you could have lost a lot of time. I don't think, you know, you do not underestimate the power of a team in terms of speed

When you have to go full gas, two or three kilometers, that makes a big difference to have

a little bit of recovery now and then. So I'm going to disagree on that. They would not have done better than if they would have being doing the time trial totally on their own. I don't think so.

“And I think that's a strong argument. That's probably the level-headed correct answer you”

on. But so UAT members, it works out at the end. They're 12 seconds behind, not a big deal, right? Del Toro is a little bit more behind because he was 14 seconds behind. But God, Jar, who was 12 seconds behind being a guard, but I was shocked that they had two riders as early as they did. They were down to Pagatur, Del Toro lost the team. I would assume far earlier than they expected to. Like, what do we make of that? Yeah, as I said, it was definitely not their plan.

I mean, ideally they would have three or four riders. But, you know, it was, you know, it was

not an easy course. You know, it was the first 15-gay were flat, flat-tish, but it was technical.

There was 15 corners in the first 15 kilometers, which of course makes it difficult to keep, you

“know, the machine riding well together. Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably why they”

lost of those 12 seconds. But in terms of pure strength for the team-time trial, I think at least in that company was, in my opinion, the strongest team. For the pure team, that's all. And then Visma, very close, I would have expected, for example, that Pagatur and Del Toro would probably have gone a little bit faster on those last two climbs even by themselves, but they had they were, they were too early on their own. And the fact that they had been pulling equally to their teammates

and that Jonas and Bigan Zoli and Zepgus hadn't been pulling, that made a huge difference. I mean, I was pretty impressed. They were down to two of them. It looked dire, and they had the fastest split just to two of them, to the final two climbs. And then, as you said, the Visma guys are coming forward in their fresh, and they're slower than Del Toro and Pagatur. So, if you had any doubt about how fit Del Toro and Pagatur were, this should

“tell you that they are incredible. I think that's now, that's now how UAE is going to”

and Pagatur is going to analyze the days result and their performance. You know, they're going to get obviously Visma motivation through the roof. The whole team is buzzing UAE disappointed because they started to win and they didn't win, but they're going to try to pick apart now what happened then they're going to see, okay, we were the fastest on the climbs when it really matters. So, even if it's only two or three seconds, it's not much, it's nothing, but it's telling, it's something

that they are going to hang on to for, you know, say, okay, you know what, we're fine, you know, we're okay. This is a long race, so it doesn't matter. We were the strongest when, you know, it really mattered on the short uphill. So, everybody's going to try to take away something to you know, keep their motivation high. It's too early to lose the motivation, of course. But for example, if you look at a guy like, for example, a guy like Keanuete Brooks, who's, you know,

the GC guy from Movistar, I mean, this is bad day for him. You know, he got dropped from his teammates, looked really, really in trouble, obviously struggled with the heat and with the big effort that comes after probably a training camp. So, he's going to be super disappointed and there's nothing positive he can take away from today. You just have to, you know, stay quiet and try to, you know, be patient and hope for better days, which I'm sure he will come, but, you know, there's

nothing positive that he can take away from it. Yeah. Yeah, that was not great. And then little track in fourth, one of you's so being the writer that comes through first for them, 16

seconds back, I thought, I'm a hand up. I always have doubts about one of you. So I never fully

trust him, combining this, like the dofenet with this is, it's pretty good results, don't you think? It's good. It's really good. I think it's a great start on top of that. He's in the wide jersey, which is also great for him in Katalu, you know, I mean, he is like, I mean, I don't exactly know where he is from originally, but I think he's originally, Katalu is from Izzy and then he grew up, like, you know, where we were, we did the podcast. Yeah, and Havya for the show. Yeah, but yeah,

from Katalu near something. I mean, speaks perfectly English, lived in Atlanta for a long time, I think for a number of years when he was a kid, but yeah, little tracked at a great time from, and they

“had a strong team, and then they had this one guy, Matthias Vachek, who is a strong one today. I think”

he was probably, you know, if you take away those big names, that probably is the strongest guy of today's race, where he did. I also said in his interview that he was on the limit on the wheel. Interesting. I mean, you could, if you see it style, I use as a tall guy, you know, he's 180, something, 180, 3, 180, 5, he looked tiny, he had to go so deep, so low, to stay on Vachek's wheel. I think, of course, you know, they had bad luck, they lost scale motion on a flat tire.

There might have been some hesitation there, also with the team, they straight away made the call, okay, we go for it. I don't know if it was scale motion or vocal line, or, I mean, one of those two, I mean, both of those guys had a flat, and one of them straight away told the team,

“you know, from to the car, they need to keep going. I think it was Vachek line.”

Yeah, yeah, but obviously with scale motion, it would have been probably a bit different, because he would have been able to be there on those climbs, and even if I used to, what's going full gas in the end, scale motion would probably have been with him and Vachek. So that could have been, you know, obviously they wouldn't have won the time trial, I don't think so, but, but definitely, you know, better results. But great race for them. Yeah, and that kind of

continues the Switzerland Forum for Vachek. I thought he was so impressive there. He got third,

but I thought he was a second strongest rider in the race. Caripass got a bunch of time on stage one, and he was pulling him back. He's the race went on. Redville-Borehounds grow RIMCO's first lip-oids behind him, 16 seconds back, he gets drops on the final climb, RIMCO 19 seconds behind,

“you know, it's been a guard what you think of this performance. I think that's a bit,”

that's a bit the disappointment for me. I mean, that's not that he begins to make this appointment, but at least, you know, they had a really strong team. I expected them to be like a top two top three contender. What were they fifth now? They were in the stage. Yeah, 19 seconds back, it's not what I expected to be honest. Well, it's not it's not huge, but also they said that, you know, that they prioritized the keeping a team together as much as possible. And then, you know,

as we said, yes, as I said yesterday, I said, if Lippewitz and RIMCO get together to the last climb, RIMCO's not waiting for Lippewitz, which is what happens. Now, afterwards, they said Redville said that that was the plan that Lippewitz would not have been able to stay with RIMCO, which makes sense, you know, RIMCO's a pure tantralist. There isn't almost no draft behind him anyways. And Lippewitz limited the losses. So, but, but, you know, if there's some internal competition there,

and there is, let's not forget, Lippewitz was on the podium of the two of the front. Yeah, here. Yeah. And RIMCO wants to establish himself as the leader, then, then, yeah, I mean, today's Advantage RIMCO. I haven't checked this RIMCO has number 21.

As you have number, hold on one second. There's no way, right? He knows he does have 21

foreign Lippewitz, not the leader on his own team. And Lippewitz 25. Okay. So, they did it alphabetically then. So, RIMCO. That's nice. I got to say, I love to read too much into this stuff. I think I, I think I believe Redville here. I think that should have been the plan. There's no plan that entailed anyone not getting dropped. I RIMCO on this time trial course would have been a real stick plan. So, you had to plan for this. Yeah. Now, I think, yeah, that's probably,

it's probably true. Plus, you know, once Lippewitz, as I said last climb, he's going to just go as hard as he can. He's not going to lose that much time anyway. So, yep. And then the last one, we'll, we'll call out as DeCathlan 6th Paul 6th us 39 seconds back. I thought pretty good. I don't think the team is not blowing me away. And then I thought he wrote, he looked very strong over the last few climbs. He hadn't helped from Matthew Rikatello, who was

holding on for due life. And yeah, limit to that. I was surprised to see Matthew Rikatello there

as their second last guy. That already was an impressive performance for such a super lightweight

they have another super climb, super light guy. But a part of the hunter. The broder. Yeah. Was a bit heavier than his brother. But let's see what he weighed. He's, yeah, he's, he is a full 64 kilo. It's Holy smokes. Oh, there's a lot bigger than his brother. But yeah, these are not heavy

“weights. No, no, but, but I think I think a good, good time trial for, for Deketlong and great”

performance of sex, you know, he, you know, he showed that he's the leader, that he's strong, that me, he was doing all the pulling at the end and nobody could follow him. So, I think, you know, he's going to be, he has to be satisfied. But, you know, this is the Tour de France. And he is already 39 seconds behind you. And let's think a guard for the moment. You know, after what, after 20, after 19 kilometers, probably the thing that he's less thrilled about is that he is,

oh, no, I'm just doing math really quick. Not in the 23, 23 seconds behind I. You said, yeah, that's yeah, that cannot have been the plan. Well, you know, sex office is going to discover the magnitude of the Tour de France day by day. And, you know, I'm lucky for him. It starts in Spain. I mean, once the Tour hits France, yeah, it's going to be completely different for him, you know. So, but anyways, it's a good start. I think it's a good start for his team and a good start for him.

They're not blown away. And they're up there. So, yeah, I think they're going to be pretty satisfied with that. I'm happy with what you were going to tell us. If you rode with him, you, like, he's not a bad time trialist. I think people assume he is, because he's small. If you rode with him, you'd say, "Well, this is the best time trialist I've ever seen." And he's out of the saddle, going as hard as he can

in sex office was fully in the ski. He never left that position. That was really impressive to me.

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Are you on? We have stage two tomorrow. It is, let me pull up the stats. It is 168k's

along 2,000 meters of climbing. We start outside of Barcelona. We come back into Barcelona. So we're not really going anywhere. That's got to be nice for the teams and the staff. And there's a long climb in the middle. I was actually surprised to see this climb in there.

“It is with about 80k to go. It tops out and it is how long is this climb?”

6k long. I think it's 6k. Yeah, 6% nothing's going to happen on that climb. And then we get into the, the Montju week circuit from the Volta, Kalunia. Three times up the Montju week climb. Cat three climb. And then I believe the finish is a little bit

different than the Volta Catalonia because it descends down. It's a very fast descent.

And then kicks back up to the finish. The final climb. 700 meters up. Yeah. Yeah. So a little bit different. It's going to be a hard stage. Before we talk about who's going to win, I want to talk about next bets. Who is partnering with us for this tour de friends in xgota nxtbet.com/betoutcomes. And they will show you exactly where you can bet like who has the best odds. If you can legally bet in the state you live in. And they have a nice little dashboard so I can see that Tadit Pagotcha

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going to play out? Yeah. I think I think about Charlie winning tomorrow's sponsor. Mojrike is a very hard circuit. And especially three times, it's three times, I think it's three times

14 kilometers. This climb is, I think, 1.9 kilometers at 4.6 kilometers at 9 percent. Something

numbers. Yeah. It's steep. Yeah. And there's a, there's a, there's a few, there's a stretch of 14, 15 percent.

“My best steeper coach at the top, too, if I remember correctly. Yeah. Well, I think in the middle,”

I mean, the world champ chips have been here a few times already. Imagine having to write that in the world, like, if you want the one, Feliccio Gimon, the one, very famous for the Belgians because it was a, you know, catastrophe for the Belgians. It was, there was four riders in front. It was Feliccio Gimon, the Luisocania, Eddie Merck's and Freddie Martins. And Merck's was the big favorite and Gimon D1. And I think, I think Merck's and Martins were third and fourth. And then my

XD made sadly passed away, clearly on one, the world champ chips there in 1984 also. So very well known circuit and then very well known for, you know, usually the final stage of, well, the Catalonia. Yeah, I think tomorrow, Pogacers going to attack. I can even see him drop Yunus tomorrow. I'm not excluding that interest. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's the two of the fronts. It's different. It's not a classic, you know, but if you look how he, how he dropped, uh, Pogacers us on L'Ruchafocon.

To in three times this much week climb, I think it's harder than L'Ruchafocon. It's shorter, but, uh, and of course, you know, it's not, it's not after 200 and 30 kilo dollars, right? It's different. Yeah, but I think I think Pogacers, the big favorite tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, I can't see, I mean, I don't a break away has no chance, I think. Either depends on what this man, you know, Visma, it's a great situation for Visma because

they're in yellow. They don't necessarily need to keep it. There's going to be a break away, which is going to have to be brought back. And if, if I'm Visma, I'm saying, okay, you eat up to

“you, we don't want the jersey. If you want to win the stage, you, you guys need to control this,”

which they probably will. And they have to keep to do it. So yeah, I mean, I would love to see them just play defense. Well, they honor the jersey. I don't, I don't know, I don't know. I'm curious. You see how that, no, Spencer, if you're, if you're Visma and you're Jonas, honoring the jersey on day one, no, you don't have to honor the jersey. You just can let it go with it's part of the strategy. I think, I would, I mean, not necessarily, you know, giving it a

they're not going to do. I should do. And do you think that UAE is going to control this? That would be my only hesitation about Pugachar winning. Well, I mean, unless there's some of the also things they can win, that would, that would be delusional. Would it not, like who not in the right mind would? If, if anyone watched the spring, they should not. Yeah, go into the stage thinking they could win this. Well, we may be six hostings that Pugachar can't drop him, but even if he doesn't

drop him, he's, Pugachar still winning in the sprint. You only want that I could see out sprinting him is like rumming, Greg, why or something? Tom, they're going to get dropped though. They're not going to be there. It's, it's only 2,500 meters of climbing Spencer. It's, it's concentrated in, I mean, circuits, obviously it's hard. And it's, you know, very good, it's hard. A repetition of three, three,

three times, two climbs in the last, you know, 25k basically, you know, 30k.

What about Matthew on the pool? I think it's too hard. I hear, I'm still I know because I went back to Catalonia. I would say, I would say, I would say it's too hard initially, but I think like I like it. I thought because what did we see was it stage two last year at the two to France where it was, it wasn't hard circuit, right? In Vanderbilt one against Pugachar and

“vinegar. So yeah, the only thing is are we underestimating how hard this is? Like if you go back to Catalonia,”

it says stage seven, Barcelona, Barcelona. This is 2024. Yeah, Pugachar's same time is Dorian go down. I mean, it's a different, it's different. I think Spencer, I think it's part of, it was part of the plan. You know, probably day with it, you know, now they're 30, 39 seconds down, but, you know, they are seven in the Deep Apparel. They went full gas. They went full gas and then Vanderbilt went full gas on the last climb. That's where the purpose, that's where the purpose of saying, okay,

maybe I can take yellow in the first three stages. Otherwise, I'll present why would they go full gas

in the Deep Apparel? Yeah, if they don't think, if they don't think that they have a chance to take yellow in stage two or three? Well, that's like why I'm saying, but you know, the pool has something in his mind, 39 seconds too much, right? It's too much, but then we have to check, you know, the bonification sprints and stuff like that, which is a whole different story because I think they changed the point system, no part of the intermediate sprints and stuff. They changed the

point, but the bonuses are still the same, are they not? Yeah, I don't know, I don't know,

I haven't checked. There's one sprint before the, but the problem is the breakaway is probably

“going to take that. The only thing I could see, if you look at, if you look at, if you look at”

Vanderbilt and Alpsen, you know, I mean, so Vanderbilt comes in first of his team. They have the same time as Decaflon, right? And everybody else, I mean, the second rider is already one and a half minute behind, and everybody else is two in three and four minutes behind. So that was with a purpose. I mean, does he always take breakaway thing? I don't know, maybe, because that is how we could get yellow. He's not going to get yellow from the, from the GC. No, I mean, but the purpose was probably

to lose less time and have a chance for yellow. If you win stage. Yeah, you're so ambitious, but we she showed, you know, it's Switzerland that he can't tell me the best. He did, he did, he did it's 831 100s of a second. I mean, that was something else that time fell. So the odds with the stage are Taipei got your minus 140, Matthew Vanderbilt plus 400, Remko have been a pull plus 1400, Matthias five check plus 1600, Delta Rob plus 1800, Vinegar plus 2200. So Vanderbilt plus 400,

Pegaturs minus 140. I still, he's the second favorite. He's the second favorite. So it's for a reason.

“I think Pegaturs wins, but yeah, I mean to me too, I think Pegaturs wins. I kind of like the idea of”

Vanderbilt on the breakaway though. I don't think he's going to do it though, because they'll just pull you back, probably. I think very, very Pegaturs wins. Breakaway, breakaway is going to be different. Because once they get to the circuit, the stress and the nerves and the peloton, you know, it's a technical circuit. Breakaway is, yeah, it's due, I think. Yeah. Well, I'm going to go with Pegatur. I'm going to put real money on this minus 140.

I'm going to put Pegatur also. Wild card, what does the second favorite?

“I don't know. Oh, our friend. Oh, do you think? Oh, is he thinking, is he thinking?”

Pegatur is going to win? Probably, right? He thinks that Pegatur is, oh, my background all of a sudden disappeared. That's strange. Oh, no. Okay. So we got a power through. Sorry, sorry. I think, if I think Mo says that the two of France is over tomorrow, he says that he's going to, that show tomorrow, that everybody else is just an amateur rider. I don't think it's going to be that bad, but I think I think about yours. Big favorite,

he wins tomorrow. This is what he does. I think that's maybe an overstatement. But this is

what he does. He just punches people in the mouth. This is early as possible. He doesn't wait

around anymore at all. Yeah. He just says, hey, I mean, I'm in shape. I'm going to destroy you. Who's your wildcard though? It's difficult to pick a wildcard, but I mean,

“I would say, I mean, it's difficult, but don't pick up. Yeah, that's what I was thinking,”

plus 2500. So how is he, how is his fitness? I mean, he won that race and I have a injury. It was not, it was not, I mean, yeah, no, it was not an injury. It was, he was sick. I think, okay, he was sick. Yeah, and that's why he didn't do so. I don't hate that. Yeah. Listen, pitcock is one of those guys, super, super talent. You know, if there's one guy who can pull something out of the bag,

you know, nobody expects, it's guys like pitcock and one of the pool. There's, I don't think

is anybody else who couldn't match. Yeah. I've got a chart on days like tomorrow. I mean, you're not supposed to introduce you to us. You're not, you're probably do everything he can to stay with with today. He managed to do that last year, a few times, on those climbs early on, remember, very early on on what we thought were sometimes sprint stages, they went away to do of them, on all, like a short one kilometer climb. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I think Ben, I think vinegar will be there.

I don't think he's going to win. I don't see that happening, but I don't think he'll lose time, especially he seems locked in. He seems ready to go. Yeah, and he's good. I totally forgot what I was going to ask you. Well, so you go, you're going. Yeah, we still need to do and then pick up Ventim Trivia answer. Oh, I've got it. I mean, that's what I'm going to ask you. Okay. Ventim Trivia, because it's July. The two are back on, it can only mean one thing. Ventim

Trivia's back. The game is this. We're going to say a trivia question and you can answer it at

“VentimRacing.com. I think you have to go to VentimRacing.com. Try slash the move. See where”

that takes you. If not, VentimRacing.com, you'll find it, but if you enter it and you get it right, you get a chance to win a $5,000 credit towards a Ventim bike of your choice, and you can enter it every day. You can't enter it multiple times a one day, but you can enter it 21 days in a row. If you please, and but you don't have to wait for that. If you think, well, I don't want to wait around to see if I'm going to win a bike or not. I want a new NS1. I want a new GS1, because they

have new models out. You can go to VentimRacing.com and use code the move 10 to get 10% off the purchase of a Ventim bike. So that's, you're probably not going to get unless you unless you work at a bike shop unless you're a pro, you're probably not going to get a better discount than that, or you work for a bike company. So go to VentimRacing.com and use code the move 10 to get 10% off. Yohan, the question is this though. This huge tour of France opens open with a

team time trial in Barcelona. When was the last time the tours opening day was a team time trial? Wow, I thought this was hard. I did not, I don't think either of us know this off the top of our head. I could not think of any, maybe, I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. And we'll say the answer on tomorrow. So if you don't, if you don't want to look it up, just wait around for tomorrow and we will tell you the answer.

Okay, but thanks, Yohan, and anything else before we take off? That's it. That's it. Excited foot tomorrow stage. It's going to be interesting. I'm very excited. I think they've crushed it with this opening weekend. So I'm pumped can't wait to watch this and we'll talk to you then. Okay, thanks.