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Lance, Johan, George, Sir Bradley, and Spencer Martin (aka The Professor) break down Remco Evenepoel's win atop Plateau de Solaison ahead of Tadej Pogačar and Isaac del Toro, and discuss the shocking...

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Jonas being a guard out of the Tour de France.

Not great coverage, I kind of hard to see the crash.

They caught bits and pieces of it.

His team was on the front, I think that sort of like they have been.

These might just do in the job for UAE, everybody was sort of as a headscratcher. But then just in this calculated corner and about half the team went down, including being a guard out, what appears to be a broken collarbone. And that's it. I mean, I think at the start of the Tour, Sir Bradley, you said, "You didn't think he would

finish the Tour. I don't think this was what you were talking about." Nobody likes to see it. Right? This is the guy, this is the former Tour winner.

This is this is a Hall of Famer without a doubt, that just leaves in the back of a van. Alright, everybody, welcome back to the move podcast. We were talking about stage 15, a lot to talk about today. Really, a lot to not just today, but we're going to talk about some things that happened

in the middle of the night last night, which has really got us sort of reclunt over here. But before we do a line, what happened here, because stage 15, just for a line, fires, whatever he says at the end of this thing, he's going to say, "It is the first time you've ever heard anybody say it." This is the first time the Tour has finished on this summit finished.

So go ahead, go for a line. Stage 15 from Champagnol to Plato de Solaison, from Champagnol to Plato de Solaison.

Because we've never been there before.

I'm Lance Armstrong joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, of course, to his left, Mr. Georgian Capy, and the professor, Spencer Martin, now, before we get in all the days action. We have touched on it a couple of times, the last few days, or friend here, to the left, has terrible tooth.

As bad toothache, and now is going to have a root canal on Tuesday. So we are auditioning for it in the sit-ins, fill-ins, substitutions. I don't think my man's going to make it on Wednesday. I'm going to make it.

So you're going to have so much cotton, and you ever had a root canal?

No. So anybody out there, one of the assmen from that day, and that time of day is that I'm Tuesday. Yeah. Oh, no. That's late.

Yeah. You're going to be so messed up on Wednesday. Well, anyhow, we shall see. We shall see, it gets exciting day. I mean, I think some of it for the right reasons.

You own as being a guard out of the tour to France. Not great coverage. I kind of hard to see the crash. They caught bits and pieces of it. His team was on the front.

I think that sort of, like they have been, these might just do in the job for UAE. Everybody was sort of a headscratcher, but then just miscalculated a corner, and about half the team went down, including being a guard out. It looked what appears to be a broken collarbone. And that's it.

I mean, I think at the start of the tour, Sir Bradley, you said, you didn't think he would finish the tour. I don't think this was what you were talking about. Nobody likes to see it. This is the guy.

This is the former tour winner. This is this is a Hall of Famer without a doubt that just leaves in the back of a van. It sucks. But what does it do to the rest of the race? What does it do for the final week?

I think that's what we were curious about.

Very sad to see, I mean, I've been in that position. It's not nice leaving the tour, and I hope you're on a, makes a full recovery. But what it did do after that point was it opened up the race, suddenly for the podium, and we saw Remco coming to the floor, we saw Lipovitz getting dropped and it actually made

for a very exciting race within the absence of Vismar for the first time in how many years.

Yeah, what a stage, but Taday, I kind of feel like he didn't know what to do today. There was a lay element of him trying to maybe ride Delta into position to win the stage. And when that didn't happen, it almost looked like he gifted the stage. I mean, I said, with a K to go, Taday is going to give the stage here to it. And you went, what?

What? Don't jump down your chair. But it seemed that he did that, and I think Remco was quite, sorry, I think Taday was quite in mourning a little bit, the loss of you, and it was because he's quite sensitive. So it wasn't any Taday.

And it is clearly affected him. I felt like he was asking on the radio. He kept talking about it. Yeah. He didn't quite know what to do.

Yeah.

Well, I think he was checking on Delta Rostadas, my guess, who crashed, we should say. Yeah, who also crashed, but like he said, Bradley, that whole, that crashed, changed everything. Yeah.

It's clearly opened up the race, made it super exciting, because I think if Jonas was there,

they would have done the same thing, kept the speed really high, Jonas would have attacked. Maybe Delta Rostadas would maybe Remco would get a little bit dropped, and then Fogajard ends up outspwritten. You know, something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. It was completely changed the whole outcome of the race. For a sad reason, you don't want to see it be crash, but it is the Tour de France. You guys have raised many Tour de France, your job is to stay upright, and it's, it's, it's, nobody's fault, but it, it happens, unfortunately, happens in the sport.

It does. And we saw something that, I don't know, it's been a long, long time since you've seen these Hub, just an overwhelming champion in Tate Pogajard in the All Jersey with a five-minute lead, just immediately pivot to be super domestic. Now, I'm watching this, was this, he's clearly writing for Delta R, I think it's kind

of a three-pronged action there, one, maybe set him up for the stage one, two Paul Sashas was dropped, so get him back in the white jersey, and then three, move him up in the G.C.

But I've never, I mean, to see him at the front, just writing tempo, you imagine having

a, don't miss Tate Pogajard, he wasn't even, George's like, oh, he's, he's just one legot, he's that good, right, and so, well, but the conversation isn't about, are we going to be Pogajard?

The conversation is like, who's getting second or something?

We get a chance for stage one, like, even the top guys right behind Pogajard, they don't even talk about him anymore. They talk about their rivals right behind them, which we even more exaggerated with Jonas out, because now he's the only guy that probably cared about winning, and now everybody's racing for second, and it seems like it invigorated that race.

Yeah. Well, and you got to give it to Remko, I mean, he, he, I mean, it's one thing to be there, but there were others that worked, I mean, and he's a tough cookie. He's tough, right? And internally, Lipa was struggled, so internally within that team, Sashas dropped, I used

so dropped, but in terms of those three things I was just talking about with Pogajard and Del Toro, they achieved two out of three. He moves clearly into the lead of the white jersey.

He now sits in third on the classification.

Now, this is all still tight, right, Remko is second, five minutes down. You got to go way down the GC to find another five minute gap. Yeah. You got to go all the way to any Martinez and eighth, roughly, not even more than that. So, this race for second, third, white jersey, these are, these are races.

Well, and we've seen, like you said, to go to give it to Remko, but you also got to give it to a team. Once the race went into this race, losing Jonas, Remko's responsibility started chasing down with Pyron, kept the break away and check super well represented in that group of like 30 guys.

I mean, that's a huge win for them. Huge win and what we've seen with Remko in the past, when that guy gets on the momentum, like, he goes on a tear and that's not forget the time trials Tuesday. Right. I mean, the second half of the show, we're going to jump into, it didn't, it is not a

rest day preview. It's going to be a stage preview, which is the time trial, which is going to suit perfectly for Remko. It's also going to be interesting having a time trial the day after a rest day. I think that's complicated.

And a lot of people question, Remko's climb in ability. He's wanted the way.

Look, for Spencer, I think you said it was the fastest time ever up that climb or something

like that.

The first time it's ever been racing the two or three, but still didn't race it recently.

They race recently. So he's clearly there. He's improving. His climbing is improving. We know there's no question about his time trials skills.

This is becoming exciting. Both here. Yeah, it shows he has the building blocks to do it. Like if he can climb well today in theory, you could climb all of it any day, right? Hmm.

I don't quite understand. I question his climbing due to first hand accounts of watching him not climb well, but he's proven us wrong. Yeah. There's a lot of climbing left, but there is also a world where he went to two stages

in a row. Right? Got today in rest day. And he's going to be buzzing on that. Yeah.

He was pretty far out there. No, he didn't. We still changed. Yeah. Whereas, it's how they did.

Yeah. And obviously, the hangover of that crash, we're going to talk about momentum. Well, let's not forget he did just win a mountain stage of the Tour de France. His first ever mountain stage victory. I mean, I understand that he's not really concerned about anybody else.

I mean, it's bigger saying he didn't talk about Jones. I don't think he meant it. No, though. Yeah. But I'm saying, I did.

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So, Bradley, you're moving over the day. Move of the day, Remco. You know, he was in trouble at certain points in the last few days on certain climbs. Yeah. As limited, he's lost his, he's remained focused.

He hasn't, he hasn't had to head hasn't dropped off. And to come back today and do a performance like that on a mountain like that was super, yeah. So, Remco. I'm going to just keep going with my same thing.

I'm Quinn Simmons, Captain America, Mr. Greshen, like never quit.

I know he has not won a stage by men. This guy is always in the hardest moves of the day from the beginning, normally. He's getting closer and closer and just a slight change in tactics by UA, maybe he has a chance to win a stage today. Also, pointing out, I don't think he had any support from the team in the breakway today.

He was getting water bottles from three, six, five. This is hard to watch. Water bottles. It makes no sense.

I think you're a mess with me, but like, no, no breakouts, sort of friends.

I mean, yeah. No, he has no, it's as if the team, they don't say, yes, it's maybe says, yeah, go ride you ride you ride you ride. So, not only that, but this one is not self-supported. Yeah.

So, this is the judge. They have a call with months, they keep a call. I'm assuming they have a bar with a green jersey and the car was almost in I used to. And let's not forget the job he did for I used to. Once he got caught, no chance to win the stage anymore, he still has the strength, the

way for I used to, and basically, tone to the line to 400 meters ago. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the flip side of that is if Petterson misses the time cut because he doesn't have support.

A guy like Petterson, let me, this guy is so strong. He can solo a way in races like getting well, went to a reflator, being in the group head of a man's parents is not a big deal. Yeah, but I assume they'll have a spanned bike frame if he has a trouble down to these bikes.

Yeah. To the. My move of the day, stay at Pugotcha.

I've never seen any, I'm not sure.

I'm with you Spencer. Work for some. Somebody before the second rest day, this is insane. Well, I like the fact that we all have different moves. Yeah.

I'm with Spencer. I was going to say, if you were going to say it out, I was going to say, Todd, I just think it's incredible to see a guy. And I think he enjoys that. Like I, you know, he's easily winning.

He's looking for other things to keep it interesting for himself. For him, this is like cool. I'll go to the front and set tempo and see if I don't know. Maybe we ride Remco off the wheel, that, that was plausible.

Now, he's like Del Toro was, I think, was perhaps because of the crash or whatever, but

wasn't having the best day, but I thought it was a hell of a look. Just funny. We say that because I thought the same thing like we look so ragged, put a minute almost into Paul success and the rest of those guys, so that is a pretty good ride from him.

Yeah. Yeah. Anything to report, nothing, I mean, the green jersey seems, I mean, we're still, they had the intermediate, these, for the, at least for these two stages, the intermediate sprints were much earlier in the stage, so the, the risk of a break away was much smaller.

Phillips and Wednesdays, both yesterdays and todays, Peterson gets second and both yesterday and todays. I feel like he's, and now after this, the intermediate sprints become, they're much later in the stage. So I feel like Peterson's got to grip on this unless you're a theory, it doesn't make

an eye on God. Yeah. I mean, the thing is little tracks seem more worried about it. Like they were, they were having guys attack before the, maybe they just want a bigger cushion, but you would think like out to west, the intermediate sprint on that day is

after an HC climb, you'd have to imagine if Peterson gets in the break away, it's game over. Then I don't know if you guys noticed, but KOM shaped with the race. And what's funny is, Pugotch is going to win the KOM jersey, but Caripass missed the break away and made E if pull the break away back, and it took forever for the break

way to get away, which is why you're guy got caught. Maybe if that doesn't happen, maybe Quinn Simmons wins, because they get a bigger gap. That's the third week, going into the third week of the Tour de France. I mean, all kinds of different races within their main race, and it makes the race super exciting, and sometimes very unpredictable.

Speaking of sprinters and DNFs, Tim Marley, I did not finish up apparently he was dropped fairly early on.

This was, I mean, I think somebody was talking the other day like, what a rough last week

to just be here. Like, I don't know why I'm here, but it caught up to him, nonetheless, he leaves with three tour stage wins, so he's, he's going home a happy man. I just think it'd be, because he got dropped with Sorn Varnish Gold, and who did finish? Who did finish?

And the commentators are like, oh, he doesn't look stressed, I'm like, hey, might not be stressed, because he's like, what would I do this? I'm just going to get in the first feed, though. Yeah. Yeah.

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Is Quinn Simmons the best climber on Little Trek? As you look at that performance today, he's out front a long time and he finished just a few seconds behind their 2GC guys on this climb. I mean, how is that possible? Well, one, he's got the power to make those breakways.

He's Quinn's that's Quinn Simmons is not getting into a lucky breakway. He's getting into a selective breakways and he's got the endurance that keep doing it climb at your climb at your climb at your climb.

You said on the second last time, he did a roughly around 440 watts.

Yeah. Roll it away from the pet time pick out, they caught him on the descent, but he still rolled away from them in the last climb.

I mean, he's right now he's climbing top 10 guys in the Twitter friends, I think.

He's so consistently strong as thought, like, should he just be the GC guy? What are we doing? Well, considering how much effort he has put out over the first two plus weeks, if you think back, right, to the first two weeks in the amount of kilojoules that he's expend, I mean, I think he actually puts out too much.

So if there was a little more reserve there, I don't know today. Yeah. I mean, if he rode a little bit small to today, how much further on the last climb does he go? Well, even don't you don't attack the group, you let the group believe that you're

all in it together. You see, work as hard as you can, like, together to get to the bottom of the final climb and you try to win. I don't know why he attacked before they got there. Well, he's not with Panicookin' right, you're with an Adam Yates, you're with Tom

Pitguck. I mean, you're, you have free reign to, to just say, guys, I'm, by the way, you don't have to be honest. I'm not just saying, I don't have it to that, because he looks like he's having the time of his life.

Yeah, I've got to sit on. Yeah. He's having his own time. That climb was packed with people. That climb was super steep.

You're not getting much graphing. That's for sure. Draft in the break away anyway. So he's like, I'm just going to do my pay. See, did his pay, rode through the crowd.

It wouldn't, the effort would have been about the same sitting behind Tom Pitguck with all those people. I mean, but that is all in the line. Into the valley. It was like, but he got caught right away on the descent.

I think he just sat up there once he got over the top, you know, you're very impressive

Nonetheless.

Physically, very impressive. Can't wait to press it. No, I'm going to take on this. The most.

When we come back, we're going to take a short break here in a second.

But when we come back, second part of the show, I just want to, I want to touch on

this month in sports, right, just such an incredible month in sports.

I was hit the world cup. The open's going on in the Twitter france. We have a new world record in the mile as of yesterday, Wimbledon, Wimbledon, and we're we're going to spend a little time in the second part of the show is something that happened to young as being a guard last night at 2 a.m.

And also happen to Tate Poguchar at 5 a.m. This is, we have to, we have to talk about this. So we're going to be back in 2 and 32. And we are back as I alluded to as rep who went to commercial break there, you know, I, and I actually missed this, I, much to Georgia, Shagran. I went out for an early morning bike ride this morning.

So I got down to the studio and, and the, the boys told me that, um, which I actually have to think that this factors into Jonas's headspace and his rhythm of the day. But I was told that Jonas when the guard was, uh, had anti-doping control at 2 a.m. And in the Tate had it at 5 a.m.

Now obviously if you're going to choose one, you take the 5 a.m.

They showed up at his room at 2 a.m. knocked on the door and, and woke him up in the middle of the tour de France, which I don't need to remind everybody here. But I'm going to say it again. This is the hardest sporting event in the world. Sleep is essential.

Now obviously nobody here is going to, um, be a proponent of not having controls. But this is, this isn't a sporting issue now. 2 a.m. is a human rights issue, um, um, I'm speechless, um, what are we doing? Why are we agreeing to that? And when I say, we, I mean, we, right, uh, we still consider ourselves, whether anybody

likes it or not. I want to believe it or not, we're part of this peloton. We still consider ourselves to be athletes and riders and former riders, and we still relate in that way, why would anybody agree to do that?

That, that, that, that, that, that's ridiculous.

Yeah. I mean, Robbie McEwen summed it up pretty well on TNT sports, and said it's a violation of his human rights. Yes. Stage finished at 6 p.m. last night, um, so there was a lot of time to get down from the

mountain for various people, staff, race, apparently Taddy Pagato got to bed at 1 a.m. Is that right? Yeah. That's what he said. I don't know.

11, 30 min. We were saying it was going to be a long time for us, so that played out, so then he was woken up at 5 a.m.

So four hours sleep, and so you have to think that Jonas was very similar, so, you know,

just settled into bed, and, uh, an hour later gets woken up, I mean, we have to all agree that that's not right. Is it, you know, and before a stage like that, after a stage like yesterday's well, yeah. In particular, these days, when everybody tracks their sleep and knows exactly how well

they sleep and, like, mentally, what does that do to you when you know you're woken up at 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. If you're rude with someone else, well, yeah, yeah, well, look, I mean, we just said it. I mean, we talked about what a great month of sport this has been globally. So just ask yourself, okay?

The World Cup final is today. Did, what would have happened if you went knocked on Messi's door 2 a.m.? Yeah. Going on week or so ago, what would have happened if you went knocked on centers door 2 a.m.? What would happen?

The open is going on right now. I have it on my screen. But what would have happened?

What would Scotty Schepfler do if you knocked on the door 2 a.m.?

They would be like, no, uh, Serena Williams door 2 a.m., absolutely. It just makes no sense, uh, by the way, too, dear cyclists, dear Peloton, dear UCI. You're not going to get any credit for this. You don't get credit. So what are you doing?

This is, and I would say it for the 58th time. This is the hardest sport event in the world. You don't do that to these people. So stupid. Well, like, as Bradley said during the break, where's the response?

Is there any statement from these people? No, no, no, no, no. You just have to think there's subjustice. Think about it. Yeah.

You know, where are the people that make these decisions coming out and this is why we do this? Um, particularly with the rest of you coming up. Yeah. Oh, the testing you want to do on the rest of you, you know, they're in a tough spot. They are in a tough spot.

They can't. They can say, they can get a watered down version. They want to say exactly what we are saying. What the fuck did you go to mess these doors?

Did you go to the travelers?

They want to say that.

That is exactly what they're thinking, but they can't say it.

However, we're just a bunch of podcasters. And we don't care, so we get to say it, but they want to say it. And so it's, well, Taday actually said in these postations, if you didn't need that, was fatigue a country be infected to to the crash. Yeah.

Am I right in a way? Did you question it? Is it perhaps I could have been one of the reasons why, you know, he just wasn't able to react. He made them a stake on that corner.

I don't think that's far-fetched at all. It's plausible. But what if anti-toping authorities went to Wimbledon and said, we're going to wait Coca-Cola off up at two in the morning? Yes, that's not good.

There's no chance. There would have no chance. Would they push back on it? Yeah, it would be. You know?

You wonder why ASO's not? Well, this is what happens with this sport, isn't it?

You know, the ride is ultimately suffer, the decisions of other people, you know?

And the race will go on tomorrow and this won't be a topic tomorrow. Thank you. Yeah. That's a fact. Should they refuse to start the time trial?

What? That'll never happen. Again, but then that's the ride is suffering, isn't it? Yeah. And it's hard to look.

I will say it's hard to do something like that in the middle of the tour. But this should all be done and dusted before the tour starts. Yeah. Like, look, we get it. You have to control the athletes.

And listen, I also know, too, that some of you all are watching this going, how dare you? Right? The bookie, man? Talk about this.

Well, I don't really care what you think, because I'm going to talk about it. But they should be figured out before.

You should say, listen, we're going to do all these control, well, yes, of course.

But not in the middle of the night, not in the middle of the hardest sport in the world. We're just not going to do it. Boy, you got me. You got me fired up yesterday, now you got me fired up again today.

You know what, though? Here's the good news. Tomorrow's the rest day. Yeah. And as soon as this shows over, I'm going to the airport and I'm flying to Bally Neo.

Why am I happy places? I mean, that kitten. I'd be having coffee in the morning with that little kitty. Oh. Well, going into your house, watch the game.

Okay. Yeah. Can I just also say something? I was like, cruising the channels yesterday, looking for the open.

And they had the soccer game on for third place.

Yeah, I'm bad. I'm not feeling bad for Jonas finger guard. I feel bad for France and England playing for third. It was a great game. I mean, I think we're like 10 people watching.

James have ever seen. Come on. The stadium was packed. Crazy. Six to four.

Oh, my Lord. It is a weird tradition, isn't it? Yeah. We all go into a house to the floor. That's totally fine.

Like I said. George says to me, "Lost not. You all scoundrel. If we can come back." And then he goes, "And not.

George asked me to ask you if we could. What's the game? Did one of y'all still my, my chart, my phone charger?" It's not in the kitchen. No.

No.

It's just going like the Tasmanian devil around the house is more.

I can't find it. Yes, tomorrow's the rest day. But after that coming out of that rest day, we have the time trial. That is going to be our stage preview. Let's just have a look at you, look at you.

Oh. That's a lovely. I just think like it. You know, like it. I do, too.

Yes. You know, it also likes it. Rimco likes it. Yeah. Rimco is a favorite.

This is a perfect profile. That's right, having said that tough day, yeah, the way that's formed and that climbing at the beginning. The way he went in tourist waste in that time trial. I don't know if it's showing for Rimco either.

You know what's interesting about the T.T.

And I'm, I think we're all just sort of learning about pulsations.

Right. And he had, he had, when say he had an off day today, he, he didn't have the best day. But one of the most common questions, I know I had the question you even asked it today, like, how is, how is, how's this time trial? I don't think a lot of people know.

And apparently, it's damn good. I'm super curious how he reacts after today's stage, though in a rest day. This time trial, he's going to be on the main stage. We're all going to get to see. And again, I've heard the boy can ride a T.T.

Bike. It's a very good time trial. Yeah. Going to the bench in the world. We didn't have a great start to the race today.

It's a identical on one of the big climbs. I had to chase back on for several kilometers, so perhaps that affected his last 5K of the race today, who knows, but I mean, he's still in it, he's still in the battle. Like he had just, for example, so Bass Country this year, two of the Bass Country. Time trial.

14K to start the race. He smokes, pretty much rather, that's by 20 seconds. Oh, okay. Right. That's a good time trial.

Data point. Yeah. So Bradley, but you said he liked that. What would you, like, what would you be? Each just, the distance, the climb straight away, and it's a nice distance, 26K, you

Know, it's a 25 minutes of effort, 30 minutes of effort, so it's a good dista...

your head round.

It's not too short by the prologue, well, it's all the team time trial, the start, this

race. So yeah. You're not at all. Talk about the, they, the pacing strategy for this, the guys, no exactly. The top guys know what whites they want to hold on, it's good.

Yeah. So you're at the, from A to B as fast as possible, and you, you know, take everyone else out the equation, and you look where you most likely to gain your time in terms

of the execution and how much power you put out, you would say, it's in that first 9.7

kilometers. And then what you're doing after that, on that descending part, is maintaining your distance or your gap you've created over the other parties. And then the last part, so three parts of this, you're just hanging on until the final. So most of your effort is, it's out the blocks, you'd be really well warmed up.

And that first 9 kilometers, 13, 14 minutes of effort is where you're going to create the gaps of your rivals at your best, give me your, what whites are holding on this client. I mean, you're doing on a disadvantage, okay, at 4%, that's a great gradient to, you know, to stay in position on your time job, I, and I would be looking at going really high

thresholds, you know, pasty type thing. If it's 14 minutes of effort, I'd be looking at 4, 7, 4, 7, which would be staring at the, uh, map work meter on the client, equation, equating all the time, what's to the speed of traffic, so what's to power, so those guys are looking at touching 50 kilometers an hour up there, I would say, in your time job position, yeah, and then you're recovering

on that descent before the next flat part, recovering at power, so you're still maintaining sort of, you know, high zone two, high zone three, powers, the way off of threshold power on the descent, just because you're, once you're at 65 kilometers an hour, there's no point sitting at 450 watts because you're not going any faster for the watts, yeah. So with the aerodynamics now, once you're at speed, it's just constantly, you're

you know, you're riding at speed more than anything holding speed, whatever power required to hold that speed on a descent, that might be 300 watts, well, the last five, you're just like everything, and then you're just back into sort of a capacity type of holding is what you can see, so that's the way you get your effort out, and for what it's worth, you don't get a good indication from it by looking at the, the elevation, the profile.

But I mean, the course is not, this is a technical, who knows it, I mean, it's actually a very technical, yeah, look at the stuff. The other thing that downhill could be technical, there's not a, it's not an out and back time, but I'll play a fact to hear, it's the wind close to the sea. Yeah. I don't know if Rufko's going to win this.

Hearing you describe that that kind of sounds like a flip-a-golf. Well, it's unpredictable. It's far into the race. You know, I think that is how it's going to be. It's a great point.

And flip-a-golf has been probably chilling the last week. Last week, he's just been like, I like him, making the

new pedals, not as essentially rest days for him, except for the first part of he's trying to make the breakways, but I think he's all in for the time trial as well.

And you know what else? I mean, any else, I mean, they have to have a stage went out. I mean, the team with that history, that stature with that budget. They have to have a stage went. Yeah. And their, and their time is running out that, you know, this could be their day. I mean, you saw that with quincements, that's about as good of a ride as you could do in a breakway. And doesn't, doesn't get the stage went. Like it's actually going to be hard with his breakways to get the stage went. Let's say Remco has a good ride. How far can he take this GC? You guys think he can finish on the podium?

Second place first place. Oh, I think the podium now. Yeah. Now, the way it was the way it was going to be. It almost got a second lease of life today. Yeah. Once he realized, you know, that the race is wide open. Yeah. I think there's a lot of climbing left. There is a lot of climb enough. We're going to see somebody here is going to be a big story and it's going to be the bad story. It's going to go the other way. And he's taking a ton of motivation from, I don't know if it's him. But dropping his competitors and knowing that he can hang at Del Toro space and still went.

So technically, like the only way, you know, Foga Charles, he's going to have to drop Del Toro to win the stage.

Essentially, maybe moving forward. If he wants to help Del Toro stay in the white jersey in podium, he's not going to be able to drop. One of the biggest things is, we're got just not going to attack him. Yeah.

So yeah. It is. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's it. That's it. The Red Bull will now do in this third week. He's take up the riding a lot more. Yes.

Which they haven't up to this point. They've let other teams do that. Which kind of works against Remka when the speed is is quite varied. And they've got a quite a strong team. Yeah. They have a great team to have for the guys life and they have a team to hug it as this for UAE. Who got it? That's like the wheels are far off the next 10 rounds seven a bad day, but other guys come and work for them. So congratulations. Let's let's take some calls like we've been doing every day. Here's the number. Give us a shout.

Leave us a voicemail. That number is 970, seven seven nine seven zero seven seven nine seven zero seven one eight two seven three six. Call number one. Hi. My name is Jennifer. I'm from Virginia. I have a question about the music bag. Well, you were riding when all three of you were riding. Could you request things to be put in there?

What did you really like and what did you really, really not like?

It's actually a good question. That is a great question. I think it's some good ones.

Yeah, I mean, I remember our first tour was going 2010. It was a nightmare because everyone requested different bags.

So you had two guys in the team that had the Basiliac, you know, and couldn't have anything that was glued or anything like that. You know, I had my own bag with whatever I needed it rice cakes. If I was on a low fiber diet for the mountain stages where you wouldn't eat any fiber to lose weight. You know, you'd have stuff in there that was just, you know, pure sugar. And it was just crazy. So then you obviously are designated riders in the team that would say, "I'm going to get Brad's bag as well as mine." Like a Christian knee, so some are like that.

But it was just crazy. You know, and it's a lot easier when everyone has the same bag.

Yeah, it's a lot easier. And the man over here had never got a feedback. We'd always had to get it for him. So

and then if you didn't like what was in there, we'd always sometimes trade with other riders. But nowadays, the other teams, other teams, nowadays the nutrition is so specific. They're not doing that anymore. Like everything is so dialed and then planned out. Yeah, I've been feeling it might even be, you know, each rider gets their own bag. But you're also right. I didn't like feed zones. I thought feed zones were dangerous.

Well, they go back to the car a lot more now. A lot of stuff, a lot of stuff can go wrong in a feed zone. A lot of people in the feed zones, a lot of spectators, a lot of fans. They know that not long after the feed zone, that the riders are going to be discarding those, either the bag themselves, which has obviously the branding of the team, which is kind of a cool

keep safe. Water models, etc, etc. So I always wanted to just stay as far away from that

madness as I could. But I do think that these guys are so dialed, nutritionally now, that it's very smooth. I mean, we've seen some images of the last couple of years with them having a plan. Actually taped on their top tube of, you know, minute X, minute Y, minute Z, like very specific. But this car stuff, a few mess of like a feed, it's like a battery coming out. These guys are just like, with cave. Yeah. Yeah. When you're, I was hearing last night. We didn't see

when Simmons got third ones by his team. And the one he tried to get on the roadside drop. Yep. Well, he, but he must've been getting carbs somehow, right? Well, yeah. I mean, they carry all their gels. Um, what did you get? You guys getting fed by two to two or six, but it's different nutrition. Obviously, you know, something like that. I was hearing last night someone was saying they're taking on 165 grams of carbs and how long does this rest? That is unbelievable. We would

poop in these seats if we tried that on. And so yeah, you'd be very sick. Yeah. That's what they're doing.

I, I, you know, as, I don't, I'm glad we didn't have to do that. And I'm not sure. I'm just curious how that plays out long term. Like 10 years ago. This is hard on the stomach. I get it. Like field tank stays full. We can run all day long. But boy, I'll be rough. I don't see. But that's how they're. That's where they play the game. Call number two. Hey, guys. This is Jane Kelly from the Tampa Bay Area in Florida. We were just wondering, where is the two in the doosers come from? What's

the origin of that statement? And what does it really mean to you guys? Thanks. Love the show. Watch it every year. Appreciate you guys. Have a good one. Appreciate you. George, you, you, you're a little too old. It's George's story. It's not well, we, we had a very iconic teammate called the, I just love that come off rushing guy came from like the hardcore Russian system, worked his way up through the track made a pro Olympic champion. But he was, and then he started

learning to slaying from us when he turned when he turned a pro for when he signed for our team.

So he would always mix the difference lying terms. And this one day, we were talking like about

the race plan. And he's like, I'm going to tack here and then see in the doosers. Yeah, which means I'm going to tack. And then I'm going to see you at those showers at the finish line. You won't see me again in the race. So we just kept using this sort of inspired by Perry Bay. I mean, that's kind of the one where you end up the race finishes on the Velodrome. There are these iconic slash disgusting showers. There's a regular everyone comes and takes pictures of you showering.

Yeah, a lot. It's kind of funny because it's called on like my kids say it like my friends

at home. Yeah, they say it sounds like people probably look at them like what what did you say?

Yeah, I was having dinner here last year with that shirt on. Yeah, someone just goes, is your shirt say see you in the doosers, right? It does. I don't know if people come out to all ride by people. Yeah, I see in the doosers. But but that was ackey. I mean, ackey was, and I don't know if George Ewer to younger member this, but when he came off the track. And of course, this was an interesting time, right? The the wall had come down and I'm talking about the

Late 80s.

I mean, he was at that period of time. I mean, he was the most sought after cyclist in the world.

Yeah, right? And Peter Post and Panasonic was the team that won the bidding war. And I mean, this was like, like, Wendy come into the NBA. I mean, he was, and by the way, he delivered. He had a fantastic career. He was just like hard man legend there. Hard man. Hard

is going to be, I mean, and he would do the most like one time we're sitting. I think it was like

in the welter or something like, or even those in classics, most stressful racing you can do. You guys all know. I'm like, where's ackey? I like smell smoke. He's out in the balcony smoking a sicker before a welcome ackey. What the hell you do is, man, I'm stressed bro. Tomorrow's going to be a big

day. I just needed one. You know what, those days are done. Now they're doing 165 carbs an hour.

Nobody smoking cigarettes tonight. That would be going to cool if they did. No pouches either. Yeah, there'd be some pat. There'd be some sense of people. It did. They are really going to fit. Well, listen to that. So we're going to see a bus type of thing in the two AM thing. We're looking for friends. We got a fast dinner and ninety-one just like all that such cans. Thank you to all me this story once last act of story. And then we'll get to the trivia. But when he was coming

up through the Soviet system, none of the kids had money. By the way, none of these kids that we watch all day, every day have money. You can't come from money and be good at this sport. Fact. But ackey's coming up through the Soviet system and they would go to these camps and sleep on these janky beds and they were so he was so worried that somebody would take his shoes in the middle of the night. And he's telling me this story. And I didn't come from money, but I didn't have

it like this. And I said, what would you do? He said, he took his shoes. He picked up his bed and put both shoes under one shoe under one leg of the bed and another shoe like in the right in the sole of the shoe. Once shoe under one leg of the bed, another shoe under the another leg and went to bed. So he knew that if somebody went to go get his shoes, they'd have to move his bed. And that would wake him up. That. Well, my friend is a hard man. Yeah. Plano has nothing on that.

That's crazy. It's crazy. So you can smoke as many cigarettes as you want, man. You're worried about your kicks getting stolen. You know, it's like you emit the MLS academies, but then there's Liga MX academies and Mexico and some guy was telling me he went to Monterrey.

I think to do his academy and he'd just leave the sleep with your suitcase like I was just people

like rifle through your bags and academies. It's no surprise that everyone who came through that team pursuit squad of Eckys from the 80s, if any Burzine, a uglomerate, they all made it successful in the pro ranks. Yeah. Hard man. Hard man. And then others came out. I mean, all our fluid with glue, yeah. Just space the the Polish guys name. Hello, check. Oh, then in Yaskoos. Yaskoola. I mean, but Eckys was man, this the dude was. I do. I mean, chill too. Chill. Where is Jamala Dean?

I met this year. Come on. Yeah. I was in. I would love to chill with that guy. I was at the start of the gyro in Sofia with pedomaphia and they were we had a bit of a legends ride with Olaf Ludwig. Abdul Japrov was there. Because it was obviously as an ex-Soviet country and as a Soviet rule. So it was they gathered a lot of those old ex-Soviet riders up. Chesslaw Lang, you know, all these sort of yeah. Abdul is doing okay. It may look exactly the same big a belly.

But you know, that that's sort of tiny little, you know, wonder how we ever rode a bike.

It felt as if he was the meanest mobile ever. That's how he rode a bike.

Ventum trivia entered a win at ventumraising.com/the move. $5,000 credit towards a bike your choice. You know, could be the NS1, could be the GS1, those are the ones that's a Bradley and I love. Yesterday's question stages 13, which I actually thought was a good question.

Stage 13 and 14 crossed the Balondale sauce. A category one climb credit it as the first major

mountain climbed in the tourist history. In what year did it earn that distinction? All right. First tour was 1903. They climbed the Balondale sauce in 1905. Wow. That was sucked. Yeah. Yeah. 121 years ago. Imagine the bikes then. Yeah. Today's question. I need a line for this. The plateau to Soloson makes its debut as a tour finished third stage 15. Just weeks before the tour, the same climb was the decisive battleground of the

tour, which I can't even say this name, but it used to be the Dolphin Ailebreece. But it was the

Decisive battleground of the tour of Renee, Rowan Alps, the traditional tour ...

which promising young rider won there attacking 9k from the top and finishing a minute clear

of his rivals. Again, Bentham Racing.com/themove to enter your answer and 5,000 else credit.

All right boys. Have a good rest day. Have fun watching the World Cup.

Send me pictures, videos, everything. Well, we got Spain and first all Spanish finals since like

night to the 60s. Night? I believe it's 1930. The first ever World Cup was your

galivers' origin. Yeah, but there was another one. I thought there was another one in the 60s.

Yeah. I don't know. It's fair stuff you want you to have both teams speak the same language. Very unusual. Feel sorry for the refs. I mean, yeah. Anyways, think all community chaos to be

in English. I think. All right. Well, everybody have a great rest day. We will see you again on Tuesday

morning.

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