I think, personally, after six stages, we have Bogacha in the lead, and Rick ...
But he was rock-litch in third.
I think that's the podium of the Valtah. Interesting. Interesting. Don't know about which order, but these are, I think these three guys will be able to be able to.
“The only thing is that Philiscolored the best climb of the day. He was flying up that climb.”
And just he started so far back for reasons, under me. That's the only thing I would worry about, if I was rock-litch's goal, I mean, goal was cruising up that climb. And then what happens when he gets... I think rock-litch is going to get better, do I mean, he's getting more and more confidence. But yeah, I mean, you're right. You said, "We can't count out Philiscol."
He's a good climber. He's getting into it. He had to, I mean, although he made a mistake by being out of position, but he did, he did have good legs today. That's for sure. So let's keep him there. But I think those three are going to be the podium. Everybody, welcome back to the move podcast. I'm Spencer Barton. I'm here with Johan Bernier. We're breaking down stage six of the Valtah's Bania, as well as previewing tomorrow's stage seven with our outcome stage preview.
Stage six, Johan, was one of the craziest stages I've seen in a long time of a grand tour. I thought it would be pretty straightforward. It was not straightforward. We didn't see it. But the first two hours were controlled. No breakaway could get away. As soon as the coverage came on, it looked like DeCathlan was the one keeping the breakaway on a tight leash. I have no idea why.
Tatypagotcher got a little fed up with this. So he jumped in a move himself, started pulling, bridging up to the break.
“I believe to make a point. The point was made DeCathlan let the break go.”
But then, you know, it all, it all, it all coming up UAE because then they had a shorter amount of time to control the gap.
We didn't know at the time, but Rasmus DeBrania was in the breakaway, incredible climber.
Talk about a result from that Alps and Premier Tech writer. But UAE keeps a good leash on it. They get to the final climb, set up Pagotcher for the attack on the steepest part of on the steepest slope. Game over, right, Pagotcher rides away. No, not Game over because Enric Mass bridges up to him. Blows buy him on the descent around the top of the climb. Leads on the descent, you're thinking, Oh, Enric Moss is going to slow these guys down. He's telling Pagotcher, slow down,
slow down, Pagotcher doesn't listen to him. Cut's inside on a corner. Then rides off the road. Shoulda listened to Enric Moss. He gets really lucky. Lance, ask. He kind of gets goes into the rocks. He gets back on the road. I can't believe he didn't flat.
“But then those two guys ended up working out for the best, I believe, because they can work.”
They were to extremely well together to the finish holding off. Premier's Roglic and Richard Caripass and Felix Gallon and Chase Group behind that. But believe it was as close as almost 13 seconds. So one point is 46 seconds by the finish. Oscar Onley, set Cooze, Matesh Gallomoza. Onley, who probably went too deep, following Pagotcher. Initially, finish is 138 back. Wish Gallomoza and Cooze. Those guys can't be too pleased with that.
But there is a lot of road left to race. But Johan, what is your eight-sleep move of the day? If you want an eight-sleep mattress top or just like Tadipagotcher, this race is going to at 8sleep.com/to-move for $350 off through the end of this vault, but Johan, what was your move of the day? Well, Spencer, my eight-sleep move of the day is for sure. Well, once I'm not going to say Pagotcher, it has to be Enrique Mastin, has to be. It's been a long time since we've
seen something like this. Similar to although I think better, 2024, I guess, when Johan has thinking of Cardup to him on that last climb and then won the sprint in the stage in the stage 11 at the 2020-20-2. Remember, Johan has also tried to sprint for the bonification on the top of that climb. He didn't get it. Enrique Mast actually caught up to him and took the bonification from Pagotcher. Pagotcher did not know apparently that he was coming. I'm guessing a bit of miscommunication within UAE. It is
hectic, of course. We don't know what information comes through, but Pagotcher said that he had
information about Roglic and Felix Gal, being 40 seconds down, they had never mentioned Enrique Mast.
And then Enrique Mast catches up with him and flies by him. Pagotcher himself said he was extremely surprised. So, yeah, we've seen one guy do this recently, where recently in the last two years, which is Jonas. But you know there's one other rider Spencer who, a few years ago, actually
Dropped Rogachar in a race and then a few days later stayed with him when Rog...
You know who that was? Is this on a Grand Tour or another stage race? No, no, it's in another race.
“Dropped Pagotcher, not in a stage race. Yeah, I don't know, is it Remko?”
It's Enrique Mast. Enrique Mast in 1992, he dropped the repugachar on the last climb in Giro Di Emilia. Yes, and then a few days later he managed to stay with Pagotcher in tour of Lombardy, went to the finish and of course Pagotcher beat him. So that's a good memory. It's not a total surprise. Enrique Mast when Enrique Mast is really on top of his game, he's an unbelievably good rider, you know, and I said it in our, in our, in our talk before the show here.
He, if you look back at Enrique Mast, okay, he's had a few years now where he had bad luck, and you know, he, the season didn't go his way a few, a few seasons already,
and he doesn't, he's not in the game for GC, but if you look back, he's already three times second
in the Vuelta, one time third, one time fifth, one time sixth, he was top five in the two the
“fronts, you know, you have to be a really good rider to do that. He, people always, and especially in Spain,”
he gets some love of criticism for another tacking, for not being aggressive, but hey, you know what? I mean, if that's what you can do, if you're, if you're a best way of racing is ride your own tempo, and be as close as possible to the best guys. I mean, that only, only those few results I said there, that's already impressive. There's not many riders who have that many podiums and grand tours. I don't like Mast, that he has four grand, four podiums, right?
He has four times second, and one time third. In one time third, and almost more impressed from that he has one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight top sixes and grand tours. Yeah, you know, there's not, as you say, there's not many riders that have that. So obviously, the surprise right now is that he's coming back at an incredible good level. The best
“we've ever seen him, I think, since many, many years. I think a lot of people, especially the”
press here in Spain, have said many, okay, and Rick Moss has done, you know, he's on his way back. You know, he's also not a great communicator, you know, his interviews are not great.
Always very conservative, you know, but, but if you, if you look at his face value,
he's a very good rider man. He's definitely not a great community. I don't even speak Spanish, and I'm always like, yeah, I don't know about the delivery of that. As you say, incredible, probably what dings him a lot is his last win was 2022, Jared Elamillo. Yeah, I think I had totally forgot about that. That was an impressive run from him. But today, kind of, from Pagotcha, today was like throwback, Pagotcha. Remember when he used to
attack and get caught, it after outspend guys at, yeah, he, he almost never used to in solo. He'd always get away and then outspend someone exactly like he didn't today. Yeah, super impressive from Moss. I've my wife was like, that's on it. Moss, he looks so different than he did at this year or at this time of the year. What a recovery from him. Does it hurt him at all that he's, my or keen? Like when you're kind of, when you're
from an island or, you know, not a central part of the country sometimes that can work against you. Is that in terms of, in terms of popularity and Spain? Yeah, ah, not really. I guess that calls from there, yeah, not else from there. Yeah, and you know, not really, not really, not really, lives in on door also, by the way, and Rick Moss. But just because he likes the scenery, that's the only reason. And that, and then also Spencer, you know, at the same time, I think, we've got chart today,
was, I think it's a combination of, and Rick Moss having a super day, like growing on that last climb, like getting the motivation seeing that you're not, you know, you're riding away from your closest rivals for the podium, and then you're getting closer. So he kind of rose above himself. I think, ah, and Rick Moss, because that speed at the end, when he caught Pogacha, that was impressive. It was really, really steep. I think combined that with a not great Pogacha,
did it today. You know, he was good, but not super. And I also maybe probably, you know, the communication, if you here, you have 40 seconds, and you still have to manage that gap to the finish,
you can say, okay, I'm going to paste myself a bit, and then I'm going to do what I always do, right?
So, and on top of that, I also saw, and that's something I don't really under...
is extremely well organized. Pogacha was without water or any of the liquids for the last 25 kilometers.
“Yeah, that's what he said. So, yeah, I mean, it's surprising that maybe they didn't get,”
mean, they couldn't get there anymore. I don't know, there was a lot of people, a lot of spectators, the gravel, and then I'm going to guess the cars were not there. No, the cars were not close. What do you think of that climb Spencer? What do you think of the gravel, part, and the nature of the climb? I think it was more, it was okay, it was okay. Yeah, you showed me a video yesterday, and I was concerned when Pedro Delgado was struggling.
But that's a few months ago. That's a few months ago. So, they obviously read it the whole, and actually the guy who was riding with him on that video, I sent you, that's Kiko Garcia, XD made of mine, and also who's now the Vuelta director. And so, he was on a gravel bike, and Pedro Delgado didn't manage to get up the climb, because the gravel was so bad.
“But Kiko said in the video, okay, just having mine, we're going to redo this all this whole time.”
So, yeah, I thought they paved some of the worst parts of that. No, they kind of smoothing it out, and it was really compacted, and then it was really fine, fine-pressed, stead-out gravel.
Well, if you ask me now, I'm going to say it was an amazing decision, because
I mean, that was, and yes, you got to say that was one of the most exciting stages of any grand tour of the last few years, because you didn't know what was going to happen. Like, what is it? What's going on? Interview Master's Bridget Up. If you do watch it closely, though, you know, it's steep. It's really steep. Pagotcha has a gap. Then it eases off, and I would bet Pagotcha was managing his effort. You know, he's like, I got 40 seconds. I'm just going to get over this
climb, and I'm going to have to hold these guys off. But yeah, I got to save energy. And that's when Moss made his biggest inroads. You know, he sprints over the top. There's a little descent on the climb. He sprints over the top. Really carries a lot of speed now, and you can see from the helicopter. He's closing the gap. So like, Pagotcha's up there kind of cruising along, and he doesn't know Moss is back there. Yeah, he really closed the gap, and then he sprints up the last
100 meters over the top. So that certainly helped him. I was surprised, though, as I'm getting inric Moss on the descent. Like, well, he's going to lose. He's going to get caught by this chase group. Very good. Yeah. He was really good on that descent. Yeah, he knew the climb. He knew
“the descent. I think that Movistar, I mean, anyways, you know, it's the Sierra de la Spalma. So”
it's two times the same climb by the way. The first time they went up, and then they came from
another side and they went higher, right? Yeah. A lot of riders know this climb, but also I think that Movistar has had many years that they were in the area that are closed by for their training camps. Anything much new to the descent. Pogachar did not know the descent, which was, you know, obviously because he went off the road. I mean, but so Spencer, I mean, what to say about that, you know, even in those circumstances, you know, getting off the road, Pogachar is just so great that, you know,
anybody will have crashed. He was so rough when he went off the road. Yeah, he didn't crash. Station is bike. There was a big step. You know, there was a big gap from the road till the still those, was it stones or yeah, he just didn't even get completely off the bike. No, he stayed on the bike and just, I mean, he put foot on the ground, but didn't get completely off his bike. If I went on that same route, I would my tires sort of exploded. I don't know. I mean,
and he would know how he did that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, in Rick Moss, I mean, he, it's just, yeah, it's crazy
that on the ascentee looked incredible. And then he looked so poised. He was trying to warm,
Pogachar, Pogachar didn't listen to him. Yeah. And I can't believe I'm saying this, Johann. I cannot believe I'm asking this question. Should he have gifted the wind to him? No, no. Well, he kind of couldn't because his team also was teams. Yeah, I saw they were actually killing themselves. Well, these kind of things, first of all, don't happen anymore, especially if a team has worked the whole stage to put the leader in position to win the stage, it just, it doesn't happen. You know,
it doesn't happen. And then anyway, we're talking about Pogachar having, you know, a bit of a weak moment, but we stick with six stages in, he won three stages already. Yeah, 50% of the stages. Well, and his GC gap is now 334 to Enric Moss moves into second. Prima's Roglic and third at 421.
These are big gaps for six stages.
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And then rock liches is 47 seconds down in third place. Caripass over a minute down.
Feel as gall. Kind of a strange climb. I don't know if he noticed this. He wasn't there when it started. Yeah, he took his old temple and moved up. But Spencer, by first of all, two things, two guys who were missing here today and that who expected to be here is Oscar only in Sabgus. You know, they didn't have it on that climb. They lost considerable time. A minute 30, no minute 34. Yeah, it was shocking because only it was with Caripass, with, yes,
like a kilometer left on the climb. And then, yeah, lost a ton of time. Yeah. And then, and then I think personally, after six stages, we have we have bogacha in the lead and Rick Moss in second. But he was rock liches in third. I think that's the podium of the Volta. Interesting. Interesting. Don't know about which order, but these are, I think these three guys will maybe be on the podium. The only thing is that Philips call up the best climb at the day. He was flying up that climb and just he
started so far back for reasons unbear to me. That's the only thing I would worry about if I was rock liches. Go, I mean, go. It was cruising up that climb and then what happened when he gets
“I think rock liches going to get better. Do I mean, he's getting more and more confidence?”
But yeah, I mean, you're right. You said, we can't count out things, go. He's a good climber. You know, he's getting into it. He had to, I mean, although he made a mistake by being out of position, but he did, he did have good legs today. That's for sure. So let's keep him there, but I think those three are going to be the podium. Also because because the, you know, rock liches going to take considerable time on Philips got in the last time trial.
Yes, I mean, also an inner class probably on yeah, rock liches. Well, but here's the thing.
So this shows you why it's important to strike while the iron is hot. You know, we've got your comes out, see opposite, like demivoloring, I feel like should just be watching Pugachar film all the time, just punches people in the mouth right from the beginning, taking time, taking time, everyone's like, oh, this guy is too greedy. It's not clear to me that
“he can drop in Rick Moss the rest of this race on clubs. Oh, yeah, I think I, that's not”
that of ourselves, Spencer. I mean, Eric Moss is climbing incredibly well, obviously Pugachar can take time on anyone, right? If he needs to. But now he's got a 334 gap, not really concerned. You know, you know, basically what, what, if, if, if this is the case that that ending Moss is now going to be Pugachar's closest rival on the mountain stages, it's very simple. You know, he just stays with Eric Moss and then just puts a little bit of time in him on the
last kilometer, because because Eric Moss is going to ride to distance the other guys. Yeah, right? So yeah, that it's ideal for him. Just stay with Eric Moss and Rick Moss is great at
Riding pace.
take then 15 seconds plus the bonification. Doesn't need to, but he's, I mean, it's still, you know,
time and a potential stage with it. And now UIE, it's like a big business that identifies a of a weakness and a smaller business is doing it better than them. They've just made a strategic acquisition. Like now they have Moves. Moves star is now part of UIE essentially. Exactly. They're working for exactly the rest of the race. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's, it's actually worked out quite well for Pagatrad. The water thing is a little funny. Like was he supposed to get water from a
teammate? And that just didn't materialize. I don't. Well, he had a bottle when he attacked. He had a bottle when he attacked. I just checked. Then a kilometer later, the bottle was gone. So
“I think I mean, if you throw away that bottle, that's because you're supposed to get water on that”
climb from, yeah, from the team, from the team. Those are things that are planned in the meeting
before before the race. You know, Pagatrad knows that there's going to be somebody there. Did he miss it? Did the guy not make it to the climb? Did, was there too many people? I don't know. I don't know what happened. You're so I felt, I found the thing I was again for. So nine K to go, Pagatrad and Moss are 15 seconds in front of Debraina, Roglic and Pilskall. I thought they were going to get caught. But Roglic, I mean, it makes sense that Pagatrad and Moss put their
the strongest riders, obviously. But they were like motorbikes out there. I mean, I think you're right that no one's, it's not clear to me that anyone behind Moss is a stronger rider. Like they put what 30 seconds into him in the last nine K, the chase. And that's when, when, when, got up bus and who also did Karapas Tahada. When they came, you know, when they were more people together, they were slurring down. Yeah. Yeah. They started taking pictures. You would think, okay,
there's new and fresh legs. We know they were so tired of the chasing. And then, of course, they're already thinking about the, you know, the stage and trying to be third or fourth,
that it's not necessarily always an advantage to have more people in the India
of the stage. It's what happens. You know, they went from 13 seconds, still 46 seconds at the finish. They're like Oscar on late 15 K to go. He's 50 seconds down by himself. Nine K to go. He's in a group and they've lost 40 seconds. Yeah. You know, that's like the bigger the group swells. The harder it is to keep the pace up. Yeah. No, not enough. Nice things I can say about in Rick Moss. And I assume you think Pagatrad is he washed up, you know, on like what's going on
here. Just a little tired. Not a great climb for me. I don't know. Another great day. I mean,
“it was hard. Yeah. I think it's a combination of not feeling super. I mean, surprised by the”
toughness of the climb. I don't think so. You know, they have, I mean, if they haven't previewed it, they had all the information about the climb exactly how steep it was, where the gravels part started, the state of the road, you know, the, whether it was asphalt or concrete. So I think they knew all those things. So I don't know really. I think for me, the biggest, my biggest guess is that he was just managing those 40 seconds and had no clue that Andrew Moss was on his way.
I mean, before anyone, also, is given a team crap for given a bad info. It was very hard to follow what was going on in that climb. Yeah. It was, the cameras were all over the place. Is this, though, I was a surprise that the gaps on that climb like that, like those are the gaps. We'll see on some of the biggest climbs of this race, probably. Also, that this workout perfectly for begotchar because Moss comes up to him works together and they, they're flying on the, on the final.
“What if he does? What if no one bridges up to him? Does he even hold that group off?”
But are they real amen? Maybe not. Maybe not because it was happening in the last nine kilometers. Yes. Very, very, very windy and flat. It opened. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe not. I mean, yeah, the fact that Moss came back to him was, was definitely a big advantage for the voucher. And he knew that Moss was going to give it all because he was trying to distance his close rivals for the boat. Yeah. Yeah. He had a lot to gain by opening that gap. Doesn't
ask any questions. It's just pulling hard. I mean, yeah, it's kind of perfect. Perfect. I got to have up there. Also, for green jersey, well, Benar gets in the breakaway wins the intermediate sprint.
He gets 20 points.
standings are Pagotchar first 102 points. Well, Benar at 69, Matthew Brennan at 60,
Ethan Hayter 57, Christoph LePort 52, you're already starting to see the answer to our question yesterday of a wise and reasonable going all in and green Matthew Brennan for green because days like today, well, Benar can just get in the breakaway and get the intermediate sprint points better than someone like Matthew Brennan currently. And then tomorrow is going to be, well, we'll talk about it in the preview. It's going to be a tough day, but while it's probably
going to have to get in the breakaway and get the intermediate sprint points because Pagotchar is probably going to keep winning stages for at least the next week, getting these points. It's not even clear to me that anyone can challenge them at this point. It could be tough.
“Yeah, should we, yeah, I think, I think for, well, for the moment, he still has the three jerseys,”
no? He's, he, yeah, so he has the red jersey, the green jersey and the, the mountain jersey. Yes, and the only person remotely close to him in the mountain is in Rekamas because he took the points on that final client today. He got those 10 points, but yeah, like no one's, I mean,
maybe the third week is different, but no one's really making big inroads into him on any other
jerseys. It's, Spencer, it's clear that if he wants to win those three jerseys, he is going to win them. It's only going to happen if he's not interested, which I would not, I mean, if you really want to manage your energy during this well, then also thinking ahead about what's left to the season, then I would say forget about the points jersey and forget about the mountain jersey. The mountain jersey, okay, it's going to happen automatically, right? Because of the, the hard stages and the mountain
finishes, but the points jersey, forget, I mean, it's, I, it's also on the, automatically what happened by the way, it's not like, it's not like he doesn't really need to go after it, but yeah, in some times it could happen that maybe a stage that he can win that they decide, okay, you know what,
“let's, let's get, let the, let the break go, we don't need to win this stage. That's the only way”
that's another another person is going to win the points jersey. The only thing about that, though, is as this race comes in a focus, I'm wondering if we get to the third week, U.A. impagotter says, whatever, we don't care, let the break go, I think other teams might be pulling the break back, you know, like he might have such an intense competition for the podium, yeah, that the breaks getting pulled back, pagotter's winning stages, and then he's getting green points. That's probably
how he would win if he wins. I don't think he would have his team do work, because as you say, he's got that's true. He's got world, he's got another stuff to focus on. And again, Spencer, we've said it many times, you know, a lot of things can happen over three weeks. Look, today, Pagotter could have lost the developed up by crashing and how to abandon. Yes. No, it's, it's that, that fragile, you know, so that's also why it's so important to try to be
the best of the rest, because then you're in both position if something happens to the leader. Yeah, I was going to mention that. Thanks for bringing it up. But we saw today how he
“loses a grand tour eventually, right? And that's why it's super important to race for”
second, because in a blink of an eye, like, that could have gone differently, and he's out of the racing, but the tutor for us, he's right next to Jonas when Jonas crashes, could have been Taday.
So always important to be racing for second, even if you think you're not as strong as Taday,
Pagotter, or know you're not as strong, but anything else on today's stage, should we take a break and then preview tomorrow's stage? Let's talk about tomorrow. Yeah. Are you on? So things, it's just a, this is a hard race. It's a good race. Well, design race. Stage 7, 150 kilometers. We go inland to a ski resort. We kind of just, as you would imagine from Coastal Spain, you just kind of climb up, stare step up all day. We have a cat two climb, cat three,
climb, cat three, sprint point, cat two, finish on a cat one, climb 10k, 6% up to a ski, a ski station is filled with it would say pretty high, almost 2,000 meters above sea level, but the final climb not overly difficult from a gradient perspective 10k at 6%, but we should say the first K is very mild 2%, the last K is flat. So that is artificially going to, you know, make it look easier than it is. If you just separate kilometers two through eight, it's much harder, like the last
for UK or 8%, 8%, 7.5% flat kilometer. How do you think this plays out and who's going to win? Difficult to predict the winner, but I think tomorrow it's time for a breakaway. I can, I mean, it's not going to be a breakaway if deck at long. Does again, what they do? Yeah, yeah, depends on what deck at long ones. I personally think
That that UAE will let a breakaway go.
in the lead, maybe having some doubts, well, forgot your maybe have some doubts, okay, yesterday I didn't
have a great day. I want to be safe. I want to, you know, see how I feel. I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud. I would say personally, let's, let's keep it safe. Let's just save the whole team as much as possible. Follow the other guys on the last climb and if there's a breakaway, whatever, you know. Although, I mean, it's a hard stage. So obviously, there's going to be riders in the breakaway who may be threatening positions of the top 10 start to be more or less defined now.
If somebody comes in there, then we're going to have a usual scenario where the team of
the fifth or the sixth or the seventh start to be nervous and start to pull. That's, that's always
“going to happen from now on. So, but I think a breakaway can make it tomorrow.”
Who will win? That's different. That's a different story. Difficult to think somebody from the breakaway. Yeah, really different. It's also a tricky day because, you know, if you have a climb like that and it's, it is, I'm looking at the level of you are almost a completely flat final. Okay. A little bit of a crap shoot. Not as straightforward as we just finish on a climb because what if you don't drop everybody in the now, you're going to reduce sprint. People are attacking.
Feels just a little risky to me to try to target. This is a GC day of, like, I want to win.
Where? Yeah. I mean, maybe if you're feeling skull, I mean, do you feel confident in your ability to win a reduced sprint at the top of a climb? No. I wouldn't feel. Yeah. You shouldn't. So, I do, I also think it's breakaway. I mean, whoever wins is going to have to be a good climber. Yeah. What happens to Rasmus now, Debraina? Is he too close in the GC to get keep getting in breakways? I don't think, I don't think, lost Mr. Debraina will stay in GC.
You know, he's a really good rider. Came late to cycling. Was, was a professional speed skater, ice skater, short track. Pretty good sport. As a base to, to become a cyclist. Yeah. These, these skaters do a lot of cycling. But, you know, he's a good rider. Still discovering himself doesn't have the, you know, the experience yet of ground tours. So, I don't expect him to stay there. I saw an interview of him. He said, you know, that he's just going to take it day by day,
“try to go and breakaways and then make the best of it. So, I think if tomorrow he goes in the break,”
they're not going to let him go. He needs to lose more time. He's too close now. But, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's three seconds behind the white jersey. I think behind Oscar Omni. He's still in contention for the white jersey. Crazy. Crazy. He'll, he'll lose time yet. We all should say, you're no, you're no, we don't. Yeah, had a bad day. Not a great. He said, he said, he was suffering a lot from the heat. Well, which also does tell us, you know, if he's suffering
that bad, probably nobody felt that good. And that would explain, maybe if we got you to write away from everyone, how you thought he would. Kirkman, if I'm wrong, is Enrick Moss really good in the heat? Yes, he is. Yes, he says. He also said that in straightaway he said, yeah, I told you guys that I'm good in the heat. So, they's the proof. He was quite upbeat about his performance. And he should be. Yeah, I mean, he, oh, I remember the stage in Granada where he was crushing everyone on the
climb. And then it was as wide open to sent and he got caught. But yeah, it was a very good hot, hot climber. He's he's like a specialist. What about more burger in the breakaway? That's a good one. Yeah, very good climber. He's 12th overall. He's kind of like, outs, just right outside of the top 10. But then it, I think if the breakways get, if it's going to survive, it's going to have to have guys from the cathlon net company in use. Maybe even UAE. I mean, is this a J vine stage? J vine.
J vine stage, maybe. Yeah. J vine Pablo Torres. Those guys could be, it could be in the breakaway. I mean, I, if I'm UAE, I'm trying to get one of those guys in there, then you're okay for the rest of
“the day. Yeah, I guess the only thing you have to balance is, let's say you send more burger up the road.”
That's that leave goal without help on the climb. But I guess you, the cathlon is so deep. They would have more burger. They also have BZO, Rikatello. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I actually,
I don't think the odds are yet.
this. J vine is, yeah. Looks good. J vine, more burger. I think those are probably the two favorites.
“If it's not GC, if it's GC, do you see anyone beating pagachar? No, you know. If it's GC, no.”
No. Unless he doesn't feel great and just trolls. And then it's a sprint at the end. Miss print, he can still win. Who, who would beat him in a sprint? But say he didn't win. What GC guy would beat him in a sprint? A roguelage? Roggolage? Caribbean roguelage is the sprint. Roggelage doesn't seem to sprint very good these days. Looks, I mean, yesterday, for example, no, not yesterday. The stage in Amdora. He'd spend a lot. So he had nothing left to sprint. And
today, the same. He also spent a lot in that pursuit and also had nothing left to sprint. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that's he can't. What is it, chicken or egg? Can he not sprint or is it just too tired to sprint? Like the essence? And I'm not hung over. I'm just tired from staying up on night drinking where he probably could sprint. He's just too gasped to sprint.
Yeah, I don't think it's amazing that he's in third position right now. After, you know, already
a few really hard stages, I'm impressed. I did not expect Roggolage to be in that kind of shape so early in the vault. Yeah, especially with getting hit by a car, poor poor poor, poor form all year, poor training, leading into this. And then now he's in third overall, not crazy to think he ends up second. Like if, if you really just, you know, go final week in Rick Moss versus Prima's Roggolage, who you pick in right now, Moss looks amazing, but I wouldn't want to be trying
“to hold off Prima's Roggolage. Yeah, although I think Hendrik Moss is also a writer who were functions”
are really a lot with the motivation and the morale. I mean, his morale must be through the roof right now. I mean, who has ever been able to do this against the pogachar in on the top of his game? He's only Jonas. He's been Jonas, and then maybe Jonas, in Rick Moss himself, and then Mr. Matthier Schelmo's, all right, when he beat, I'm in, I'm still gold. In absolute gold today, yeah, but that's not the same. Yeah, and that was a week. I don't know. I don't think we can compare,
we can compare Roggolage of 2022 with the pogachar of 2025 in 2026. I know true. This also continues to support our thesis that the Tour de France is this year's Tour de France, not good preparation for the Fault of Spania. I mean, nobody that did that tour, like even pogachar looks a little off as best. You know, he's still winning, but yeah, yeah, I don't think
“we can judge him from today's performance. I think I think pogachar is an amazing shape.”
I mean, I mean, he's in, he's in probably technically the best shape, right, because he's one half the stage is hard to argue. Otherwise, two writers have one stages at this race, by the way. Ted, how's that? Ted, it but got your math. You've been in the only stage winners at this race. Is that crazy? How's that? We have six stages, six stages? I don't know. The other one was canceled. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's only two writers of one. Wow. Okay, stage. Yeah,
it's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, I think that's all we had, right? Yeah, I think so. Let's see, but tomorrow brings hard stage, 150,000, 600 meters of climbing. Really hard. In theory, it should be a bit cooler, not extremely hot, but still, it's a hard stage tomorrow. We should also say I was just thinking about sports betting, trying to predict, etc, etc. If you had a stain in a room yesterday, in defend your thesis that Inrick Moss will win the stage
or get second, what would you even have said? No, no, he's going to really in Pagotcha at the top,
and he's going to send better than him. He would have sounded like an insane person. That just shows he's hard to predict some of these outcomes and weird stuff happens in races. Just something to keep in mind for sure. Put in a lot of money in the line. Thanks, Johan, and we'll be back to break down tomorrow's stage. Seven, probably another interesting day, Kudos to the Volta, a lot of interesting days they have back, back, back, back, back, back.
