I would say if I was going to pick one of these guys to be concerned about it...
Grammys.
“Because I think more Leer can't contest the intermediate sprints in super hard days as”
well as Benjamin can't and he's so consistent. He's won this before, so we know we can do it. He's fast. He's fast. He's...
He has the legs. Yes. Like if you if you just the isolated him and Philipsen. That him close. All right everybody, welcome back to the move podcast.
What we're staying on time today, I guess our friends at Peacock is different things so we're a little scrambling. That's okay. They got us running over there. We get storage out on the bike center, gets Bradley in the gym center.
Get the watch. England versus Norway, the LMPM, our time. The Kona McGregor tonight. Yep. Yeah.
So watch the way in last night. He looks good to me. I would not. I don't want to fight any of these guys.
“But if I had to pick one that I wanted to fight, if I had to choose, I would fight Kona McGregor”
before I fought. Max Holley. Yeah. I think that's a better option for a... I got better.
You got better? Yeah. In smarter. Yeah. But you were considering doing it.
Yeah. I got off a five-fight deal with some of your misfits in the UK, which is like a celebrity boxing series. No way. Did you train for it?
I mean, you started training, but I mean, come on. You've done it all. You've done it all. Yeah.
I was always trying to find something rather than just working on myself.
It was just something to distract you know. Yeah. Well, you know what? Not to get too sappy here, but I'm proud of your dog. Thank you.
You got it dialed. My man is dialed. Dialed. I love stories like this. So, yeah, no boxing, no rolling.
Did set the hour record, didn't win the Tour de France, has I don't know, 28 million gold metals. But we watched these guys starting to run, we watched these guys and like this glamorous sport of the Tour de France, but like, people that haven't done it don't realize how hard it is on you mentally and what happens to you after you stop doing it.
I mean, it's a very challenging time for, yeah. Look, these are athletes that and I actually do get a lot of questions just about the group and what kind of young men these are, you know, and when I tell people I say, listen, I raise a long time and I wasn't on the team with everybody in the Peloton. I knew two guys and didn't however many years I was.
I knew two guys that went to college. Whoa. Don't casey. Chetri Rubier. Nobody else.
I mean, Dylan came on a team and he was like, he's like, yeah, graduated from UC Santa Barbara. I was like, what? What a weirdo. Like that is weird.
Chetri was taking, was doing homework at night, getting his degree. So this is a sport of, of hard men that come from hard backgrounds. And so what do you expect, right, you uneducated kids come from tough backgrounds, spend whether it's 5, 10, 15 years in the sport and then leave. It's hard.
It's hard, man.
“I mean, how many guys now want to call it in this race?”
Can you think of it? So not men. It's up coos and maybe one other guy, not many. Right. I'd say there's a few more now.
Yeah. I think especially nowadays you can do online school a lot easier than back in our day. So I think I think that numbers higher now. Not too late for us. Yup.
We are talking about stage eight. I learned what what what what what what what we do. Stage eight from Berigue to Belgic from Berigue to Belgic. Yeah.
It's just never, it never gets old, you know.
Never gets old. That's right. Tim merely air, just doing a row by far the family smoked and then he smoked. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I think what stands out to me is the last two days, at least is how dominant he has been and how really disappointing Phillips and has been and this isn't just looking at the results and saying, gosh, he could only manage fifth. When they show that helicopter shot and guys go, he doesn't have the legs. No.
No. Not at all. I mean, he's in perfect position again and Berigue wasn't even that group and he just blew by everybody. Yeah, and this seems to be an advantage more so this year for some reason for coming
from Berigue. Yes. Yeah. Doesn't know. And Tim's done that two days running now.
Well, today was very fast because they had to catch the break and then all the trains fell apart because they burned themselves and so maybe that helps. I coming from behind. I don't know.
Do you guys know who when Merler won his first two-to-front stage when you know who
His lead-out writer was?
We didn't know. Yes, for Phillips. What does that? Yeah.
They're on the same team.
He looked. Where do you think? I mean, you had a good idea. He'd better today. He'd better look better.
Yeah. He looked a lot better today.
“I think there's almost a slight hesitation that they're not from Vanderpull just, you”
know, he's running out of legs at some point and Merler is reluctant to jump probably because he hasn't got the legs and that's just taken it. That's allowing everyone from behind to have that run on by time they come side by side with Merler. Sorry.
Phillips and he just doesn't have that acceleration at that point. Well, that's not forget it's Matthew Vanderpull, I mean, yeah, we're used to seeing them coming out swinging into the toward of friends when stage is taking yellow jerseys. But I would not be shocked. We would surprise if he went in the afternoon after ten days in we get to see that Matthew
Vanderpull back. Well, did you notice today? He was trying to get in the break away. Yeah, I knew he made that split on the fourth category climb there. But it also tells you out, but it's not so confident in the sprint.
If they're sitting in the middle of the road, I think they got to have somebody there. So it's, I mean, it's a good position to be in it. I think did go away. Vanderpull is there. He's not going to work.
His Phillips isn't behind. Probably not a big deal for him. And he's trying to be there. So I don't think it was necessarily not a confidence in Phillips. And it was just having somebody in that break away with that split.
Frustration. And why not fighting, by the way? I'm going to fight. Frustration. Stay in each other.
We don't even look at each other. No. No. It's like we're in Van Haley. Yes, I think tour buses.
Um, of a frustration building for Phillips and in the team, there was some article or some, some news yesterday about, um, though in the helmet and just really sort of, um, obvious frustration. Which I, I don't mind. Yeah.
“I remember I was at a stage in 2024 and you like got relegated in the, I was staying”
around next to the bus and you could hear him like throwing stuff around in there. I mean, it's such a bus. But that's just how it is. That's different. I mean, you get relegated.
Perhaps you didn't think of anything. We're on like, he's frustrated now that he just doesn't have the power. Right. Like he's got the perfect position to win that race today. And yesterday.
I just wrote that a session. He shouldn't watch that helicoptering now because it's, there's two different, there's another gear. No. By the way, it's not, we're, obviously, too many earlier winning the stage is the last two,
at least. I just, you see, you've been young, grandma, you see, I mean, and we're going to talk about Binging and grandma. We talked about the green jersey because this now, all of a sudden a few days ago, we thought, wow, that's better since looking pretty good.
That's now tight. Yeah. Very tight. Let's talk about the move of the day. I brought you by 8 sleep.
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It's been a hugely successful race for them already, and he's proved he's the fastest man in this race for the moment. Gee. I'm going to go with Jasper Stoven.
I mean, that guy is always there when you need him.
Today, people that don't understand how the sprinting dynamics work, they don't realize how important it is to win that battle to a 1K to go on that right-hand turn. Jasper Stoven seems to do that with these, which happens there, it gives his sprinter to him a little bit of confidence that he has something there with him, even though he came from behind, like it's super important to have a guy like that by your side that you know
you can always count on whether it's a sprint finish of the Tour de France or a Milan centenary or a big classic, that dude is always there, he's my move at the day. I like that. Your professor? It's important.
I'm going to go Liam Slot. I am true. Yeah, I'm with you. That's, that's not easy. No break away, kilometers zero, almost stayed away caught right before the fun of kilometer.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, I get this question a lot, but by the way, that is my move the day. I mean, the guy went basically at least the group did, so he was out there for 175 kilometers, we said at the top of the show, the third hottest stage in the last 20 years.
It's not easy. By the way, it's been hot every single day. But I often get questions from people that they don't really fall cycling, but they watch the tour and they watch these early breakaways. And it kind of, I don't know, 99.9% of the time, it happens that they get caught.
But they get caught right at the end and so folks, look, how is it that they get caught right at the end, every time, right, and it's true, but it's not just because they got tired,
“or whatever, it's, it's, there is a math equation for the, for the bunch, right?”
Bradley, I mean, well, when it's one ride or two riders or even three or four against
the moving peloton, it's always the peloton that decides the time gap given to the, to
The break away.
So, when you're in the break, you know, you don't go, it's not the case of you just riding flat out and hoping to gain as much time as possible. The peloton will decide, you'll suddenly get two minutes, then you might get three minutes.
So, you will adjust your speed based on the peloton, the peloton will always adjust its
speed. If it's gone to four and a half minutes, the director may say, we need that down at three and a half, no more, so they'll increase the speed, get it to three and a half minutes and then back off. So, it's always the peloton, always knowing that they're leaving just enough that they
can close it in that phone at 25k, and it's always easier to be the hunter than the
“dead, yes, and I think back in the day it was just kind of rough math, what they thought”
were weak and fairly easily, or without any worry, close 10 seconds of kilometer, right? So, if it's 10k to go, you know, they can have, have quite a bit of time and they know that they can get that bunch rolling. Now, I had a similar stage in 2007, 200 plus kilometers solar break away, July 13th. It's the death of Tommy Simpson, the anniversary, you know, I went out there, I was still
at the seventh longest solar break in the history of the Tour de France, which is me, and it was, I had 17 and a half minutes at one stage, and I remember thinking, with 100k to go in 17 and a half minutes, 10 years before that in 97, I was watching the tour, and Cedric Vassur got 17 and a half minutes and won the stage and took the allergyersie, and I thought this could be on here, and I got caught 5k to go into a roaring headwind the
last 25k. Did you just let me know your words the whole day?
No, no, I mean, you just, it's amazing how quickly 200k goes, because you're on live TV,
all day, and because you're in a friend's team as well, the director was coming to have, have all of hard, just, just, do you have one, do you have one, do you have one, and all this, and they're loving it, and the sponsors are on the phone, and all this, and it's only race, where it's, you know, you've won something by being in the break. We need more of those Bradley Wiggins and imitations, they're the best, what's
really coming, yeah, and then, of course, you're the star of the title, the dinner, no, I put on bropped to tell me, "Shep, no, I was like, "You know, you have one of anything of them to pre-brunt, which is, did you want your body weight in cheese?"
“But yeah, good old days, anyway, you woke up on the right side of the guy, did you?”
I love this. Now, there are some gangsters that can get in these breaks. I don't know if there are any in this, this year's tour, but there are gangsters that know how to get in these breakaways, and they can play that game with the peloton, on of 150 or 200 guys.
They can say, "Look, we know that they're sort of, and they can, as the pelotonies is up, and let's them seemingly get away, they also two ease up," right? So they know, and save it for the last, that has happened yet, but you got to be really clever to be one of those gangsters in the breakaway, and at the end of it, you still have to go almost as fast as 150 guys and guys that are basically team time, multiple
teams, team time trialing behind you, it's very difficult. Like at the Jiro on stage 15 this year, they let a break go. You don't see them get, they don't get much time anymore, because he solo breaks can go so fast now, and this guy from UNOX, he was in a small group for the last two hours of the race, and this was a city circuit, so it's not like straight road, average 33 miles
an hour, and then they would off the peloton in one. So it's hard to pull, if someone's going 33 miles an hour, it's hard to go faster than that to pull to back in.
And he had the stage of your mark on time, that he could win it, it's pretty amazing.
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how why were the Pyrenees just kind of, you know, you're not traditional, and you had an
“interesting theory, I think we all kind of, we all kind of bought into it, yeah, like that there.”
Well that stage in the Pyrenees, we had one stage and it was, apparently it was designed to be a
dud, that was not supposed to happen, they thought that it would like go to the final climb and
their be a little sprint, we got your ruin that, but I was thinking last few days, huh, all the exciting stages in the race, or like what are we all thinking about today, we're thinking about England Norway, like the detours probably secondary in our mind, and I think they're placing all like the Kent misstages after the World Cup finishes, so they can step down by the World Cup. I mean, it makes a lot of sounds interesting, yeah, because even about still days on the
rest day this year, yeah, wait, is it? No, no, no, no, no, no, I think I forgot about this, it took us the day after the rest day. The other thing that we observed today is mentioned, you thought you had a theory on this as well, was the Catholics speaks to their writers in English,
“yes, not in French, which is new. Our friends from powerhouse team, why do you think that is?”
Well, I talked to a writer that was joining the team. Well, I talked to a writer that joined that team three or four years ago. Who was that writer? I don't know if I can't say, but it'd be interesting to hear what you think because you were a good friend, but they had to go to like a full immersion school and niece in the off season to become fluent in French. I know right, and then I talked to another writer, this last off season who was joining the team and he said, no, they don't want us to
learn French, not only do they not want you to speak French, they don't want you to know French, and there's like a no French rule on the team. You're behind your back. I think it's because of what Bradley was just talking about, where he was the toast to the team, he's in the break way, he lost, but he's this hero. I think they're trying to break free from the, they've diagnosed it like the French, I think culture is not prioritizing the right things and they're trying
“to like hold the team into the modern era. That is interesting. Well, you're on coffee for several”
years. It was a life skill to learn French. When I was leading the tour in 2012, I was able to give interviews on French TV after the stage was Jalebeau and all that speaking French, it did me to the French public a little bit more by speaking their language, but it just shows you the shift, no, within the palace. It's all the events and it's quite fun to listen to French. It's French. It's like, just we take on Tom for a lay-a-top, Ojo de Wey, a de Monge,
a spare-tray fort. Hey, why? Why don't you get a little closer to them? Hot catos,
I was like, yeah, I was like, I always thought Lance was like, "Fuck us going on."
Oh, great chance. You know, it's a good thing. Hang on a second. By the way, I got no points for doing it. I got no all this environment crap you just talked about. Yeah, they hated me more. I should've just been like, maybe cycling's moving in this direction of Formula One, like if you listen English, if you don't speak English, you cannot play the Formula One game. Could be moving that way. When the team that struggled to kind of keep up with the modern
air in Formula One, Ferrari, because they were like holding on to the Italian tradition. Yeah, but all the advances are happening into the English language world in these sports. All right, we're going to kind of break for our friends over at Peacock. We're also going to add a little one there at the beginning. We will be back in three minutes and 32 seconds. Talk about the Green Jersey, and I have some other fun things. Two minutes and 30 seconds.
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This is unfolding. I don't know if it a few days ago with, wow Matt Spederson has really said himself up. He's not helped by these breaks that are poaching points out. He may not actually want to contest those points because anyways, 228 points he has. Timber Lears, you can have him. So 228 for Matt Spederson, 213. And you said this, uh, believe yesterday. Yeah, Spencer that if he can get a couple stage when he is right back in the 213. And then the sneaky little
devil. They're a trend. Yep. I'm a figured out where it is. Mr. Consistence is the more of Africa. 203 points. This is the race, right? I mean, that's, this is going to, yeah, so I did talk to you. I've phoned you on up to talk about this. I said you're on him concerned because I have money on Matt Spederson. What are we going to do? He said he thinks it's not going to be an issue because we have breakaway stages coming up that Pederson's going to be in the move. And that's
guys won't be able to contest the points in those days. I would say if I was going to pick one of
“these guys to be concerned about, it's Benjamin Graham. I agree. Because I think Merlear can't contest”
the intermediate sprints in super hard days as well as Benjamin can't and he's so consistent. He's won this before. So we know we can do it. He's fast. I mean, he's talking today. He's, he has the legs. Yes. Like if you, if you just, the isolated him and Philipson, I am close. He doesn't, and he doesn't look like one of these sprinters. I mean, he looks almost more like a client. I mean, it's a kind of the crazy thing when you go to these races. New team. I look tiny. Yeah.
Yeah. And it would have from earlier, you know, he's not historically a great third week
sprinter. If he starts to fade a little bit, then even your might could be winning these stages later in the race. I agree. We've got the foundation not only to win later on in the sort of France, but also to make these breakaways. I was going to say why wouldn't be a curmigo in the break. So Peter's to make these breaks. Yeah. I can make the breaks. Yeah. I mean, Patterson is Patterson's more versatile. Yeah. I would agree with that.
But we'll see. We'll see, though. I mean, you, like, remember, like, tour her shop was he had to get in breakways on, like, some of the hardest mountain stages and he made it happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These sprinters can make stuff happen when they need to. Yeah. Yeah. It is that time of this particular show. I've done it in the past, right? For all, anybody any young bike racers out there that are watching the race that
in their minds are saying, I one day, I want to, I want to be in the tour to France. And that's my dream. That's my goal. I'm, I'm going to devote my life to that. It's important that every now and again we run public service announcements. All right. There's
been others in the past, but not always popular. But my public service announcement, otherwise known
as a PSA for today, is when, when the Peloton just cruising along. And the, and the TV moto comes up beside you and just sitting there on you. We don't need to make any shows. We don't
“need to make any silly waves ignore them. I think it looks horrible. And Rimco is, and I think they've”
figured him out that like, oh, he's always going to wave to us. They always go to him and it's always this cheeky wave. Kids, when that TV moto comes up, ignore him. It looks corny. I cannot take it. I don't, I, in fact, George was funny. I think he just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. He came down on the kids in the morning. I was like, it's cheesy. So why is there enough coffee? Like, I usually have two cups ready. There's only one cup ready for him. He was just in a bad mood.
Would you have done it like that? No, he would have been like, get out of here. We need the rest day. No,
I would never, well, what are we doing? I mean, like, stop. Just do not. I had to leave.
I did. I got up and said, I can't watch this. What do you think? I mean, George is trying to be, I mean, yeah, I saw one where Rimco was doing a yellow card, a fake yellow card. Yeah. I mean, it's a straight shit fucking coin. Come on. Let's look at the stage nine preview. I'm assuming we're going to have another really, really hot day. Yeah, yeah. Did you imagine?
“That's what I break away. What is, uh, as a matter of fact, better some day, actually. That's a coin”
sim and stay baby. Again, these stages are not that short. I mean, for this generation of cycling
180, they're just keep.
oh, man, this is going to hurt because it goes straight uphill from the start. Seven seven K uphill.
That's no joke. Even though it doesn't look like much on this profile, that's going to be a really tough day to control. Very tough breakaway to make. It's only going to be the strong guys. No panic looking breakaway tomorrow. Yeah. But I think arguably very exciting stage coming up. Yeah, very good. Yeah, and halt as well. Very hot. Yeah. Bad asphalt. If I'm correct. They look friends. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Those are the stages when they think. Oh, I see.
“Worst there were the worst. If you especially if you're in the lead of jersey and you have to”
control just, yeah, really tough. I'm curious, because that profile doesn't have, maybe it's just
zoomed in a bit. But let me see here, because just looking at that profile as jagged as it was,
a total vert has gotta be. Total vert is something. Three thousand meter. Three thousand three hundred meters. Something uncomfortable. Yeah. That's over 10,000 feet. So here we're, you know, now we're into the meat of the race. Right? We're nine hard hard to believe. So we're already talking about the ninth stage. Yeah. Hot every day, slow pavement. Guys, guys been getting their teeth kicked in. And so then the mind starts to go, what have we got? What are we doing here? Right?
You combine a little bit of mental fatigue with slow pavement, with heat with 10,000 feet of climbing. So this is a sort of stage to a last year where we had those breaks with Ben Helium van der Poe, wasn't it these kind of tough days. The day that Simon Yates won, if you remember. Yeah, I was exactly the same. Yeah. Do you think Ben Helio is kind of a hanging background? I don't know.
“Or I did think that looking at the result yesterday, that was his sprint stage yesterday. I think”
he lost about eight minutes yesterday. Yeah. And I, I think, you know, I wouldn't underestimate that. Because typically, that profile suits him perfectly. Yeah. One thing to note about tomorrow's stage and tomorrow's finish, no matter if it's some kind of a group or a breakaway, it is about the final kilometer after all of those after the stage we just showed you is about 3% uphill. That's just hard enough, right? Yeah. Who do you guys think is going to win? That's a good
question. It's tough to read George on this hard. I mean, it's a little complicated though with Matt. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Unfortunately, he might have to be, unfortunately, he might be in the breakaway with Matt's and then he'll have to do a lot of work for him. Yeah. I think this could be a stage for someone like Carapas. If it goes off tomorrow in the start and there's a big move and you know, Vizburg trying to get in there and someone from
you, I mean, trying to get in there to Marshall it. Someone like Carapas sneak it into there but kind of out the GC. Well, don't you know who lost much of time yesterday? Richard Carapas. Yeah. Also special. We haven't seen Carapas going in that early 50 K. I can see his team keeping the breakaway close enough to where he bridges up on one of these evil climbs. That's more his style. But you're right. He could be a really good one. Yeah. He's sneaky. He's sneaky.
So I had the most, uh, this is so cool. Like this, this sometimes this stuff happens and I'm like, you're just like, this is crazy. This is crazy. The other day, I'm telling the story. Our George starts telling the story about 2003 tough year for me, but every minute of that tour
I thought there's, I can't do it. And that never, I never thought that. But I was like,
wow, this is the year and young gets me. I just can't do it. George in the back of the bus keeping, if you didn't listen to the show two days ago, I'll give you a little refresher. Just keep, just kind of keeping me there. Like, hey, man, today's the day. Come on, hang in there. He had this 2003 work. We're dating ourselves, but he had it, this white thing. I pod. He was, I would, everybody else had like a disc man. He was, he had this thing. And so I'm
spending through, let's just have to go past all his crazy music. And I'd say it a couple of days ago, I said, oh, thank you, bus. He got in keep a song here. I spent the rest of the tour listening to incubus. Anyways, I get home later in the day. I get a picture from my old friend Peter Parker.
“I think is one of the greatest trainers in the world. And he sends me this picture of him,”
Tim on the right, and Brandon, the singer for incubus. They are in the gym watching the podcast. Well, it's unbeknownst to them. I am telling the story of the 2003 tour. Are these guys like Brandon's probably in the middle of something? Oh, wait, wait. What put him down? Thanks. I'm assuming we're going to wrap up today's show with a incubus. How sick. And I must confess, every since Peter's something that messaged yesterday, incubus. Just heavy rotation. That's all
It's all I got going.
didn't know that they were in the gym together. But do you imagine, I've had a sick. That is super
sad. That is crazy. God. Love that. By the way, the drummer for incubus. Now, I did know this
“because I've ridden with him. I think he lives in and around the Santa Barbara air. So that photo”
was taken in Santa Barbara. And I've ridden with the drummer for beast. I wrote Gibraltar with this cat. He's a beast. So I figured I might, but the fact that it happened live, one of the hardest clients in America, Gibraltar. I agreed. I agreed. Cold one. What are the, what are the people want to talk about? Hi, this is Katie from Patron. Yes, it's over the hill for you. I'm a chef and I've worked a lot of catering events around the Ascent and Denver area. And it makes me wonder
about food on the tour, not when they're racing, but the actor to team travel with their own chef. Do they rely on the hotel for their staying like, how do they eat? Thanks for everything you do. Your podcast was great and I love you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. Good question. That is of all of the lot over the last 30 years. If you go back, maybe start it to have all really 25, 30 years ago. Before that, you just, you stayed in the hotels that ASO gave you.
And you walked down to that hotel restaurant and ate what they gave you. Which was probably just some, some overcooked pasta, some day old bread. I have a fun story about day old bread and that
you just ate what they gave you. And that's, you know, and actually Jamaica, which was one of the first
to bring a chef, Willie. Willie was a Swiss guy who came and cooked for us. We met on airplane, Swiss Air. He met on Swiss, he was a steward on Swiss Air. And then we had Duffy all those years
“with Postal. But now I've, Bradley, you would know you guys. I don't know. I think every team has”
something every team has at least some sort of van, transit van, which is a kitchen van. They may take that food into the restaurant to eat. But half the teams, at least half, certainly have a bigger truck, like a kitchen truck, like a kitchen truck with a restaurant in it. I actually have a video that I took when I was at Volta Catalonia. If I can pull it up before the end of the show, I'll send it to even in races like that. The big teams have kitchen trucks, personal like chefs,
and some of them even have dining rooms inside of the trucks. It's kind of insane now. I was at Switzerland and they, you know, was a smaller team. I was standing in the hotel and they were cooked, like they had a little truck and they was cooking up the food and they bring it into the hotel to feed the riders. Yeah, but that's even trickled down to under 23 level. But it's a bad, it's a bad, it's a bad, it's a team. They have a kitchen truck. You know,
that they know. Yeah. So it must be nice. We need a kitchen truck, try to go find me. It's for the kitchen. We didn't have one with Sky when I won the tour. Really. We had Sauron who was our chef who came from CSC and he would get allowed into the kitchens of the hotel and prepare the food. But early initially, that was a hard sell. Yeah, that was hard from health and safety and these
hotels would be like, you know, a guy that never seen it ever met. He says he rolls up and says,
I'm going to borrow this part of your kitchen. They were like, no, there wasn't always at least with Duffy and our chef. Like there were times where he said, they just want to let me in. Yeah, yeah, we used to have that. Chippo was always a big, I don't know. I was not there, but I heard the story that when you're at Treno Adradico, because this was back in the day when you just had to eat the hotels food. By the way, no guarantee on timing, like they're going to bring the food when they were ready to
bring the food. Chippo says, if I don't get food in five minutes, I'm going to start throwing plates. That's true story, George. Yep. Okay. Three minutes passes. As you got two minutes, I found the video on it's five minutes passes. No food. He starts just picking up plates. Just starts breaking plates. The other fun story. And I think this was Andy Hamston who doesn't sound like he would take anything. He's not a very aggressive guy, but he said, he said to the guy
from the hotel, he said, "Hey, what does it take?" He said, "The bread is still. How do I get today's bread?" And the guy says, "Come back tomorrow." And Italy's one of the few places where two weeks into a race, you know, zero or whatever, and you kind of get a bit sick and tired of the same old stuff that your own chef is preparing. You stay in a lovely place and you're like, "Actually, I wouldn't win the hotel food today." Because Italy, of course, across the board, wherever you go, even gas stations,
“every station of the motorway, the food, nine times, that's how it's pretty good.”
There's a team that you do that are now. You got to eat the... That's... Yeah, I mean, now they're counting all the calories, the riders have left on, they're on the table and working out what they've expanded, how much they put out and how much
The riders have left and what they've consumed.
any one? They have a variety of scales, yeah. Yeah, they have a way to food. And the other thing
“I think is important to note, not to be that guy, but in terms of contamination, I mean, these teams”
really want to control every ingredient, I mean, obviously weigh in things and make sure the riders are getting what they need or don't need. But no outside exposure. Yeah, and that makes perfect sense. Whether it's any kind of contamination. I think I think Mathuber could tell I got food poisoning at the Dofenet. I was like, "Was he out like getting street tacos?" Like, what? Is that happening? It's probably not. I forgot to say, that number just
gives a jingle 9707182736. And to close the loop on that question, I do have the video, okay. Ready for the love kitchen truck that I filmed back in the vaulted to get to the menu. All right. So this is a little bit greater. That's great. And this is a little truck, right, George? Yeah, truck. That's a kitchen truck. That's cool.
“Well, you haul. What team is that? You do? Also do. And where were the eat?”
On date in the dining room. Because sometimes you say they have actual dining dining table. We kind of need one of them for next year upstairs alone. So we finished our gym session. I know, you know, and Katie's just over the hill. I thought I thought this started out as like, "Hey, I'm Katie from Payonia." Which is just over the hill. I thought we were going to go to, "Hey, I'd love to just come make your boys gourmet meals." Imagine if we had one of
these food trucks. How's gym session before the show? Yeah. Well, we're at the expense. If we do the show on Europe next year, I can make some calls. Rent a team team truck, thank you, kitchen truck. All right. What else we got, golden?
Hi, this is Michael from Texas. Some plants always say it's on the polka dot jersey,
but a series where you would kind of rank these four team winning a single stage in the tour, wearing the yellow jersey for exactly one day, winning the polka dot jersey at the end of the tour, or winning the giro on GC overall. Well, I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's Michael. That is a great question. Very good. Listen, the, the giro is, I'll just, the giro's bigger than winning a stage. I mean, if you're going to win the pink jersey overall, that's bigger than winning
a stage in the tour, France. TDF stage second. A day in yellow, third and polka dot fourth. Interesting. So you'd rather win a stage in the day and then a day in yellow.
“Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think career. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah.”
I've never said day in yellow. I had a stage. I think it's really. Yeah. See, this is why we let
people ask questions. Yeah. And this is why we try to answer. I don't, maybe that's, I don't even think twice about that. I think, I think, maybe that's because on British as well, because you know, you grow up watching Tommy Simpson, first ever Brit to wear the yellow jersey. You know, then call Sean Yates, Chris Bourbon, David Miller. So I was the fifth then. So it was kind of, you know, you grew up watching that and there wasn't many of us. So how. Remember this guy? We were
with him in of Stende, Yann Bachalance. Bachalance. Yeah. He, I only remember him because he wore yellow. Yeah. Yeah. Say it. And there's a lot of stage winners, you know. We were talking about Alex Steater the other day. Yeah. That one day in yellow, which I remember. Yeah. I mean, it's a good question. I had one day in yellow. Yeah. Did they? Yeah. Not according to him, not according to some people. Listen. Oh, there are people in the sport who believe that people don't have memories.
Yeah. All right. Remember you wear those before anyone? You did not. And according to Andy
Hooded Vellon is, you never had the elders. Just saying. Hey. But Michael, here's the, the last thing
on that. And I know I always bag on the polka dot jersey. And you're right. And it's because the best, whoever is in that jersey should absolutely be the best climber in the race. So for example, right now, Tadi Poguchar has the polka dot jersey. I dislike the jersey a lot less. Have you always just liked it? Yes. Yes. Because I was in the race. I knew exactly. I was the best climber in the race. Yeah. And you'd have these varanks out there and it'd be all these other people running around for
these little cat threes and cat fores. Come on, man. It has to be weighted. It has to be whoever is given the polka dot jersey in Paris should absolutely and definitively be the best climber in the race. Yeah. I mean, pentane level in the pentagon. Well, that's crazy. Yeah.
Kid put you did know some iconic, yeah.
those are indoor and gifts. Yeah. I agree with Lance. Like there should, it should be if weighted
correctly. Like usually the best climber is going to win the race, but it's not always true. Like yeah.
So it'd be kind of cool if, you know, let's say Jonas was the better climber this year and he's
“the KOM jersey in Tadi. But I think the white jersey has also lost. It's me. They got changed.”
That is under 26. Yes. Well, that's going to have to change now with more. How many guys win the short 21, 22 nail? Yeah. It's a change. And so it's kind of a bit of a tad of just became ineligible for us. We're talking about a retiring. Yeah. It's where it was always a star of the future that jersey. Yes. Things should not be opportunistic. And I don't think. And now the plenty of people disagree totally okay. That's just my view. The white jersey is good again this year, though,
because we have the Toro in six us who are young. I do that to your point. They have to move it down.
“Yeah. And well, I think they could exchange it for one of the most beautiful judges you”
have been in the short photos. Kind of combine, which was a great judge. That was a great trip. Yeah. Yeah. Let's give Tadi another chance. Yeah. I think he's got that one. Yeah. Time prevent them trivia. This is a cool one because Sir Bradley stepped in and built this question. This trivia question for today. In order to win, you get $5,000 credit towards event them. Bike of your choice had on over to ventomraising.com/themove. Code there's the move 10. And you can also submit your answers there.
But first, yesterday's question. Bordos, the second most visited city in Tour de France history
behind only Paris. How many times has the tour finished in Bordos? Survey says 82. Sir Bradley's vent them trivia question today. In 1990, this is a great question. I said, most of these I know. I'm not going to tell you the answer. 1990, Greg Le Monde won his third tour de France, which rider dropped him to win at loser to den on stage 16. I'm going to say again, 1990, Greg Le Monde won his third tour de France, which rider dropped him to win at loser
to den on stage 16. Let's go. Go ahead. See you tomorrow. Greg Le Monde is ready.
“Tour de France family got here. It is like I'm out. That's what we're going to go biking.”
What am I family's getting in? Olivia has been gone for a month. She's been at summer camp in Minnesota. I'm hoping to be there. She's just living her best life. You know what I love about this is a parent. She's 15. She's like a real 15 year old. It's constantly staring at your phone or social media is crap ruining the world. A month with no devices. Is the best thing? No devices, no social media, no distraction, just summer camp. Well guys, family report is happening today. That's three
clubs. That's right. Who wins that game? Who's favorite at doing? I mean England, I'm probably better side. Yeah, they're actually there have point favorites. I think we asked ourselves to do up there have points. There will be fantastic up to these points. England's very fatalistic though. Like Mexico, you guys were down a man for pretty much half
the game. Yeah. And one, like at Mexico City, it's quite a good team, but the coverage is always
there. No regions are going to crush us. It's Holland, doesn't it? It's gonna be good too. Yeah. We'll see. Go England. Harry, go Switzerland and go Max Holloway. Yeah, thanks Holloway. All right, thanks for tuning in. We'll see you tomorrow.
