Kirk plays for Jasper Stiven on a stage that was not made of no, no, no, no, ...
He's doing a really good zero of Stiven. Yeah, like a really good super impressive, but you see how difficult I mean
“You know, this is a really strong rider some monument winner, right? He's in good shape has the freedom sometimes”
And it's shows how difficult it is to win a stage in the giro. I mean, you know, he this guy definitely has the power The talent the experience just doesn't man it doesn't manage to win a stage Everybody welcome back to the move plus I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with the 100 neo. We are breaking down stage 13 of the giro
Natalia and then previewing stage 14 critical
Monumental stage 14 at the end of the episode Stage 13 was won by Italian rider Albert do Betty all from XDS Estana from a breakaway Worked over under poor Andreas Lexington from in OX. He was away on the final climb Betty all look like he was off the back and then It almost looked like Yohana a dad writing with kids. It's like, oh, okay, you guys think you're you think you're strong You think you're up there and he waited until a hundred meters to go on the final climb sprinted past
Lexington pushed it over the plateau on the top Decended down for an emotional stage when his first win In quite a while his first major win since joining XDS Estana from EF
I'm asked for stuff in in the breakaway again was third place
The Peloton was 13 minutes back no change in the gc the start of the stage was quite active. I I do think I've had my fill of these flat opening 100 kilometers of endless attacks Riders trying to get in the breakaway. Let's let's mix it up a little bit art RCS, but it was a super fast start I mean the final the average state the average beat for the Peloton or sorry for the breakaway for the whole stage was 50 kilometers an hour Fort it may be 49 kilometers an hour. So it was in the 38.9. 58.9. So it was over 50 for the first two hours probably
a move goes with a 179k to go there's an intense chase behind with Philippe Bogana trying to get in a chase group but everyone knows Philippe Bogana wants to get in a chase group because the stage finishes in his home town
“So we can't get away the Peloton actually breaks up that's how intensely people were sprinting behind Ghana”
These may get to the front and says all right enough for this monkey business. We're shutting this down a chase group Was in between the Peloton and the breakaway at that point the Peloton sits up win the Peloton the breakaway sits up in the Peloton sits up to let the chase group on and that was kind of the end of the stage until we got to the final climb Beautiful day, but you're on what was your take on the on the racing? Yeah, well, I mean obviously a very specific stage Spencer and you know we yesterday we said you know it could be a puncher
The question yesterday was does a breakaway Get away and make it to the finish so the answer we got the answer pretty soon as soon as we saw 15 riders Breaking away 11 teams were represented in that breakaway and so it's super super difficult and at this point in this in the race also it takes if you missed the break as a team You're not gonna pull back 15 15 riders where this really common interest
“You know the only the only the only way you could basically see a team changes is if it's if they're punished for not”
from not being in the break but they're not gonna get anywhere so at this point I think that Teams who had missed the break just you know lick their wounds and say okay, you know what we're just wait for another day From that moment on we knew that the breakaway was gonna fight for the stage victory they got up till 11 minutes Nobody in that breakaway was was dangerous for G.C. Nobody was dangerous to get in the top 10
So all in all boring stage until I guess those last two clients The pace was as you said I'm believe it really fast. I think you know Initially they said you know it's gonna be 49. It was 49 and something Until those climbs but those two climbs didn't really slow it down much
They still were close to 49 average And then you know we what we saw a specific there was some really good riders in there But what I was really surprised to see Spencer was You know group mama I've the G they had three riders in there And that's nice
But they wrote like the other riders did not participate in this race. I mean the way they came to the front and they started to
Accelerate on that first on that second glass climb on a lot and then on the last climb
With you know first you're on yocups and then the other guy. I don't remember what was the actual or some things
Goods goods no it's H u E and S
Who in soon yeah, gyns Never heard of him I'm sure he's a fine man Great guy
Yeah, but you know I mean what I was really
Surprised to see was that they wrote like Obviously, you know if you look at the gc they had this other you know relatively unknown rider this guy from New Zealand Josh Kench In in that breakaway and they were riding like This was the guy he was best in gc he was it was only 20 minutes down and everybody else was close to an hour down in gc So not not in bad shape but still
I thought it was a bit Stupid from groupama to go with that much confidence and right like if Kench would just take off on that last climb and drop everybody when you see guys like
“Volgrin and letness and embed you all you know I think it was a stupid move against three”
Veterans and proven winners in the past and it turned out to be true You know Kench attacked with confidence and conviction like he's the man to beat but I think he was a bit you know overconfident Or the team was overconfident or they got the instruction from the car a you know guys Okay, we're strong. We're here. You know we're gonna kill these kill these guys
You know, I mean this I did some research so this Josh Kent he's Ken she's 25 years old
World tour first year in the world yeah first in the world tour he got he was on a Chinese team last year
He was you know in the Asian calendar basically which you know it's also means heart racing but You know it's not because I checked he it's not because you won the the tour of Shahai and the tour of What is it called Boston League? In 2025 that you're gonna drop these super experienced guys And so he did he did exactly what he didn't have to do
And then Leknesson's attack but you'll pass him Volga and even it passed him So at some point he was there were the four first guys who went away initially There were one by one and This New Zealand guy from FDG was Group on my FDG was the fort in the in the in the ranking so
I think that was not smart at all. I mean he's gonna learn from that he's not I mean he's not a bad rider You know at this point if you're in that break and
“You're making that selection of four riders you you have to be pretty strong, but it was definitely not the most the smartest guy”
Or the team tactics of FDG a group on my FDG were not really Not really what they should have done they should have been cautious and just try to hang on and then and that case You know if if he's a good climber We know if he's in good shape he would maybe be able to hang on to that attack and Then being the lesser known rider maybe they could have taken advantage in the final to get away, but
They did exactly the opposite of what they should have done. Yes, but since there was a kilometer on top of the climb that was flat, you know Would be a perfect place to attack if you get over the answer if you you know if you know that the last two kilometers are so steep and they have the same profile like everybody else like okay You know they obviously didn't recall on this stage, but you know you they have the profile They have value view where they have videos. There's whatever if information available take there's
Stuff members who preview the course in front of the race get the information If it's a four kilometer climb and You know that the last two kilometers are 10% you you don't go from the bottom that's that's just not smart Especially if you have these killers with you like like like vulgar and in blackness and then but you'll that's just not smart I'm either theory about this so group on F DJ kind of a moot machismo team, right?
It's like we must get to the front we must show them how strong we are would you disagree with that statement?
“That's kind of how they operate right? Well, I'm bad that's what they do but sometimes it works, but you know”
Especially in this race here, but I mean all over I mean I think if you look at the classification of this year's Season I think they're really in the bottom I'm gonna guess I don't have the classification, but I'm gonna guess they're in the last three positions of World Tour In this year's racing I will tell us right now and then the while I look it up the other
Component of that is Josh Kench Daniel Freep did an interview with them actually last night before the stage Super interesting said he was making good money in China that it's a good place to kind of
You know if you're not making it to the world tour you can go to China and race on the third division and make
lipable wages, but that he only got in groupama because he tested so well so he must be you know his numbers must be insane if he's doing that So maybe that's why they thought let's have him go hard also
I agree Betty all and Vogue on our killers not exactly racking up the wins la...
16th out of all teams 18 out of 18 well teams Yeah, well, there are there are the probably some of these teams Real teams and yeah, like co-co-fit is actually having a good year sneaky good year co-fit is
Penarello yeah, well, that's not that's not good for groupama But anyways, that was just an observation
“I mean bit Joe and today he he was I think he was unbeatable”
From what I hear from people in the break away They felt like he was the strongest rider, but he wasn't even in the edge of He bridged up I'm not so sure, yeah, maybe Anyways, that's that's that's irrelevant, but you know he
His interview after the stage was interesting, you know, he said that so his his The family of his girlfriend is from the finishing town
He considers his second home, you know, his whole family was there. He's that his brother
Then all the family members of his girlfriend. We even saw his girlfriend at the finish initially Not being allowed to go and congratulate him and then he said that, you know, he he knew that this was his day He knew the last 50 kilometers of this stage of my heart, which is also obviously you could see clearly That he knew exactly how this last climb was where the others I mean, I'm nobody except if you're a local Italian nobody would have previewed this stage in person
So he knew exactly how how to hold back and then you can see that he kept Leknesson there and then just the change in speed in the last 150 meters of that climb was Estonishing It was like he wrote past Leknesson like it was in other race So he knew exactly what he was doing and
Yeah, I mean this and first first went for him in two years
You know, I remember That From now so 2026 now so end of 2024
“Surprisingly all of a sudden with your change teams from EF to Estana, which was everybody was say what why is this happening?”
And I think it was that at that moment where Estana was being threatened by Relagation and they wanted to sign somebody urgently To score points which they did obviously a lot in 25 but you know things to very actually No, no, exactly but that was why he was released from EF so they had saved a lot of money right because they six months of wages
For very almost people. Yeah, so they they saved money on his salary. They got a buyout Maybe not so much but anyways and and Estana wanted a guy to score points. I mean turns out that he didn't score almost any points Because his he has not won since August 2004 he had not won a single race But he was still on EF and guess what the last time what the last world tour road race is one was what year was it in?
This is a world to unbilly world tour yeah
“A stage and 2 down under that was a pro lot. I think oh”
So it was last master when was 2021 Zero to tell you your flanners zero to a flanners win was like 2019 Seven years ago yeah, we didn't win often but you know The guy the character you know and and Listen today. I'm gonna say he deserved to win this. He was the strongest the smartest
No no discussion. There was nobody else who was gonna win but Betjol
And you know third stage win for Estana and this is also cooking for work page wins for ua three for Estana
No, they won with silver the the second stage then they won With ballerini and now with Betjol. I mean Probably three riders you wouldn't really expect before the start of the zero that they would win stages Yeah, they have the leaders jersey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so so pretty good zero for them And XDS Estana sorry I keep saying I start a good friends at XDS are gonna get mad at us
Here's a crazy stat so Betjol I call these guys cicadas because they go into hibernation for years and then they come out and you know It wasn't even been in the top 30 of a stage yet but the class is there. It's hiding there
Taday Pagotcha started 11 races this year.
Betjol has in his career This year yeah, and he started 11 races. Pagotcha. Do you think he has More less? Yeah, I'm gonna say he has more he has more wins than the Duel instances in his total career. They're tied nine to nine Okay, check gives you a
“That gives you a sense for how how far in between the wins are but also I think people watching you forget how meaningful these wins are”
Because he's saying like oh, it's worth it to me to wait because this is such a beautiful win such a big win
It's like what you're saying when teams come in and they say we're gonna win stages. That's like well wait a second
stage is a hard thing to win and what are we now on six teams of one stages at this race Yeah, I mean you know if there's one team who won four one team went was one three and then two two and that cup of radios one So it's a UA4 XDS a stun a three should all two
Who won yesterday stage I'm losing my mind But ain't barrain barraines. Yeah, yeah, they have one Yeah, but any any of us has one and it's well and that's the other well also before we before I ask you that question
Do you think Betty all kind of worked Latinx and over by letting him attack
“Letting them go and then pump them right before the top of the line. I think I think I think but you all had the perfect”
Control he managed this climb to perfection this last climb. You know he kept Leknesson within reach you can see that he was there Leknesson pride is hardest and then you know accelerated tremendously in the final of that climb I it was You could see that he had it under control the special Inspector the speed That could develop in the last 100 meters compared to Leknesson to was
You know he passed him and then it it felt like on the screen it felt like forever for Leknesson to Crest that line when but you all were already flying down down the other side. So you know and it was meant to be for Betio because you know We've been talking Spencer. We're gonna ask the Gabriel to put up this picture here Credit to really flits For putting up this picture on their social media
So Betio Had to win this stage because he finished he was also he was on The same contract for temporal tires like we've talked about already and he finished with a nail In the in the in the tire and didn't puncture. So turns out they're not they're not as fragile as we is we think who is the tire sponsor It's continental the same continental GP 5000 I mean you can see there on the picture here
So you can see the 5000 and then the TT and there's a nail in there so He had to win this it was meant to be one thing. So I was on these time trial tires just the other day I get like a piece of glass in there. You know, there's a hole. It's leaking but it seals because I don't want to I know free ads, but the the sealant company that some of these teams use is very good at plugging
Flats as we saw today with Betio. So that is like something I never really thought about where you're like
Oh, yeah, that's a huge advantage if your sealant is actually plugging tires versus other sealants which I've not had it's good A luck with you could definitely tell Betio. I'll had a Visited the the girlfriend's family and been Doing this climb like he knew exactly what to do and he knew exactly the best So sure falls question for you you work for RCS
“Sure, this is a should you should you push the stage winners girlfriend out of the way so you can get the first hug”
With the stage winner for the stage I can't forget Guy he I mean, I don't know he he did he had You know, these are guys that obviously you know travel from Finish to finish with with the caravan right so I
Mean everybody I don't know if she didn't I mean if it is an if she's local I would guess she has a credential but you know, it's it's possible. It was maybe now I guess was fun fun money to see that he was holding her back Finally she escaped It was yeah, that was it does give you a sense for how you could feel the excitement for how exciting it is to have an Italian winner
The day was beautiful like Like majority they won the stage everybody wants to go there. Yeah, look look fantastic Italian winners will people are excited Gc nothing happened but did you notice I mean this must just be paranoid Jonas was like fifth wheel You know nothing is going on mid stage Jonas is right up there at the front. I assume this means he thinks
The way he loses this race is you know you see it sometimes it's stage like t...
Follow drops you crash your breaker collarbone. I guess he thinks that's his biggest obstacle right now Maybe I mean if you're in fifth in fifth wheel. There's only four bottles that can drop in front of you. Yeah, if you're a hundred
“Missioness a lot of bottles that can drop. I mean no, I think you know, I mean obviously”
And okay 11 minutes they go out the break away, but you know in in the Peloton it's all I mean they also didn't take it I mean they were trying to be fast. Yeah Yeah, single file Was it was it it was Basically barrained with what they was doing all the all the way. Yeah, I was like Bahrain had three riders and then he does this thing where he rides behind one teammate
And then the rest of the teams behind them. What does he do that? Yeah, yeah Man, I don't know. I mean it's not bad. I mean he is obviously one wheel. He trusts More than than anything else and then it also I mean it avoids having to fight a lot for position because they're protecting In this three guys behind you that are kind of serving as the sweep To you know, so you don't have to fight so much for position if you're and if you have three teammates in front of you and you are lost
There should always be one rider behind the leader and always
But if you have three, you know, it's safer It's a lot safer. I guess you're forming a literal bubble. So The exact one can touch the wheel basically Anything else on this stage before we preview tomorrow stage I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean yeah, it was it was it was a nice final
Lekness in this strong also. I mean he's been up there a few times strong rider But just it was not meant to be today, but you'll add to in this one. We should say Lekness in his interview was roasted. It's getting warmer and this race not as hot as Madrid But it's in the high 20s Centigrade and you could tell like some fatigue in that group like I don't think he had anything
left like TD did everything he could Yeah, yeah, all right. Let's also take place for Yosper Stiven on a stage that was not enough. No, not at all him
Especially you know those I mean he's in good shape he's in good shape so I mean he was 50s today third today
He's doing a really good zero of stiven Yeah, like a really good super impressive, but you see how different I mean that you know This is a really strong rider. It's a monument winner right he's in good shape Has the freedom sometimes and it's shows how difficult it is to win a stage in the giro I mean you know he this guy definitely has the power the talent the experience just doesn't man it doesn't manage to win a stage
Yeah, so if you look at the power Yohan He's doing 520 watts basically on stage to Lekness into state not even stay in the group to be dropped by Jonas and then today 483 for the same time on that climb It shows you a it's a little bit easier in the breakaway and be their how tired they are like they're they're fatiguing the powers literally going down As it is
also that's pretty Go ride your by today at 30 miles an hour for three and a half hours and then just a rip off of 500 watt effort for seven minutes and also weighed like 70 kilos and then tell me how that feels
“That's what it takes to be in this in these groups”
But let's take a break and I think the biggest problem for the image of majority of the people is get to seventy exactly without without being able to develop in that power I mean I I series I I would try to drop to like 74 kilos and I just would be so weak you know I know it's it's very hard to do that actually That's that's our excuse
If we if we get to skinny wherever we're weak so that's why we don't lose well it is why you can't just I think because I like I was riding with the guy there today who like just did 500 watts for an hour on Swift You know just sat there did 500 watts for an hour. So you might think like oh that guy could be a World tour cyclist right it's like well he's a little heavy He'll just lose a little weight but then as he loses the weight the power comes down like in a non-linear fashion and then you're not
We lose everything so it is tough to be as light as these guys are and as powerful as they are. Yeah, yeah I'll be right back after this break. Okay, y'all on we're back. So stage 14 tomorrow. This is
Despite the most critical stage we've had so far for the GC it's probably not the hardest state
“They're I think there are like stage 19 the stage we're gonna watch together is”
Harder but this is 133 kilometers. So short it is short has 4200 meters of climbing in it and it's five categorized climbs and basically is just going up or down and they start on a 16 kilometer long climb to send down then they do a six kilometer climb at six and a half percent to send down seven and a half kilometers to eight percent to send down six kilometers at seven percent to send down
Then they climb up to a ski resort 16k
16 and a half k at seven percent the course is kind of funky. It's it's what you would do on a they start an aosta
which is a mountain valley in town in Italy and it's like what you would do if you're doing a training ride like they just go up a mountain down a mountain but they go up and then go down the same side which is unusual for a grand tour probably makes it a little easier logistically but it's going to be brutal because there's no big it's not like the tour to France where you're going through these big valleys in between climbs it's just going to be one after the other after the other it's going to be on from the gun
“I assume with 133 kilometers of racing I assume GC day but how do you think this is going to play out and who's going to win?”
Yeah I think it has to be GC
especially Spencer because first of all it's a short stage right the 133 kilometers 4,300 meters
of elevation you know five climbs three of which are category one climb so from the beginning a cat one climb so there's going to be a break with strong riders that are not in GC and if somebody's in GC it's going to be kept close by initially by a but also Visma it's going to control tomorrow so I mean I think it's going to be I mean the estimated average speed from the from the race organization is this is how hard
this stage is it's 32 kilometers per hour average I think it's going to be a lot faster
“but still it's it's a it's a very hard stage I think I mean I think it's going to be GC”
I think for sure change of leader tomorrow I think Jonas is going to be in pink tomorrow
I don't think I don't think tomorrow Rallio can hold on to the leader's jersey we probably won't be very far he's still going to be up there in top three top five but yeah I think I think tomorrow Jonas is in pink a little stats Spencer about tomorrow's finish it's it's a hard climb but they haven't done it very much in the year the last time they did this climb was 1992
and the stage was I don't remember which stage it was but it was some tomorrow's 133 it was almost double the distance was 260 kilometers stage and they they did seven hours 21 minutes
“over the stage one by Udo Bolts German writer and the Gero I think that Gero was won by Migueli”
the Ryan but pretty pretty I mean 260 kilometers we don't have those days well that we did about 244 kilometer long stage I mean too long I'm not that fast too long in my opinion I'm much I'm very much looking forward to this stage I think this is I think this Gero has been a little stuck in the past with some of these stages this is exciting this is the very well-designed stage I think it's going to be great Shada Udo Bolts by the way great writer
that's that's not an easy step to win but who do you think is going to win did you say did I miss it I think no I think you want to hold up here you think who wins I think I think you want to win tomorrow okay I need to make up for some losses so I'm going to put some money on Jonas right now so on draft Kings is he is he the favorite he is so he's but not as much as you think kind of interesting so Jonas Findigard you know just think about what I just described where
is a breakaway building up time you know you would have to be an extremely good climber because you're starting on a 16 kilometer long 7% climb so to out climb the Peloton on 133 kilometer long stage you got to be full line up that thing so Vindigard's run is 155 Chicone plus 275 feels called plus 1200 inner mass plus 1600 see writer like that in the breakaway that that's one of the only options I know Rubio plus 2800 on the group is good enough climber Peloton plus 3000 Peloton
he's been sick while pulls plus 3000 time and arms been plus 3000 hit up to win it from the GC group though jahinley plus 3000 plus 4000 probably from the GC group the only one that I would add in here that I you could learn all plus 8000 I think he him and Moss would be the only ones I could imagine winning from the breakaway right yeah yeah I mean I think it's gonna be difficult for a breakaway uh it's a lot of it's so different now it's this yeah the the the breakaway doesn't go that much faster
than a Peloton let by Bahrain and Visma and I think tomorrow my opinion Visma's gonna go for the stage win by the way Spencer I we haven't mentioned it but apparently he's feeling better now but
Jonas has said that he has been sick yeah I was gonna ask you about this you ...
I mean you wouldn't say that if it's not true I think it's you know it's easy to say okay I've been sick
“when you're healed you and then you can say okay you know what I've been sick you know I'm still here”
bring it on you know and I'm good again now but but there's been a lot of sickness in the Peloton and that could also explain why he was a bit off you know like why he didn't do the a great time trial and why he was not dominant and you know if that's true and he's feeling better now than it doesn't look good for the rest yeah yes but it's this I agree it would explain a lot why would he say this even if it is true like what does he ever came by that
I don't know miss board he's definitely not sure yeah board and he's you know he jokes and
interviews which is not this usual so he feels relaxed I mean I I can he's definitely very relaxed compared to what we normally see from the last weekend so that shows me that he has a lot of confidence and feels feels good about what's the calm and who knows what sick means I mean does that mean blue stool like we don't like a day of stool not as firm as he would have preferred does it mean a cold like even a cold getting a cold and a grant to her I'd imagine would be terrible but
here's my question for you I mean I can't imagine being competitive in a G.C. with the cold that's oh yeah for sure that's guys in the top 10 even top 5 who are sneezing and coughing in for sure I mean Pelazard he's he continues to not like great but here's the question I for you
“so I'm going to bet you want to spend a good two minus one thirty five I think that's a deal I don't”
quite get why it's like that I think he's gonna win I need to recover my losses from the last two days so I'm going heavy on him but here's the question so if you look at the futures he's minus fourteen hundred to win the whole thing terrible value like don't don't bet on that because what if he breaks his collarbone in Rome you know anything could happen is there it like this is is there really a scenario if he wins tomorrow in my mind he's winning the whole thing so instead
of betting on him to win the whole thing shouldn't you just bet on him to win tomorrow it's the least breakaway friendly mountain stage we have at this race probably probably yeah I would say yeah so I mean when you look at the map when you look at the profile you think oh maybe in one of these
“values you get the map it's just there's no great terrain in the only thing is that you know and”
Visma has been quite fortunate actually they have they they they haven't had to do a lot of work to now yeah but also you know for the for the mountain stages they're not super strong you know they have they have Kus and they have Piganzoli and then the others company it's for the moment has been I mean he's strong obviously but he hasn't been his usual like spectacularly strong like we saw him in the tour sometimes in the in the in the in the in the hilly stages so
it's not that easy to control and how many do they lose in the first climb you know yeah so who else do I mean I mean I they they really miss Calderman you know Calderman is is key here yeah the lost him and for the after stage tree already but yeah I mean that's
the only you know downside that but at the same time you know when it's it's always the same
discussion right okay say I you know the team of the leader they're not so strong but as the team of the leader it's like people expect that there's always five riders with you which it's actually makes no sense because it's the team that has to do the most work so it's kind of logical that they are short on men when the final starts the end of the day if you look at what's gonna happen on on the last climb or the last two climbs Kus and Piganzoli
and Jonas those treat together or normally stronger than any other team what any other team can can put next to it you know Felix Gaul has what's his name is it it's moving yeah yeah yeah and then one other guy but you know they're not as strong as Piganzoli and Kus um so I'm not overly worried about the collective strength of Fizma I think they're
I think they're gonna be fine in my only concern as you say that is are they ...
in your class are they stronger than Egan Bernal I'm now imagining watching in your class like being survive and with us stage okay that's that's true that that doesn't really matter for them but that's not that is now a more concerned because it doesn't matter for them what you could imagine them just like tap but someone will if they're going slow someone will attack them so they'll they'll keep it quick if yeah vinegar doesn't win the stage who would you pick
no one from the GC group I assume um I mean if finger god doesn't win the stage is because they either either break away or he has a bad day um in that case
“Felix Gaul is the strongest climber behind him so I think I mean and like Mass is a good”
it's just going for tomorrow he looks he looks strong especially on those climbs of tomorrow Chicone it's pretty strong also yeah it's not too hard for him has he ever won a stage like that that would be the question I love he I think he won a stage over the Mortirolo in the zero one year hmm yeah he did he did I remember I remember it vividly but it was not finished on top but it was over the Mortirolo definitely well we well he did when it's some finish stage
2022 it would be the trago um was over the Mortirolo it was not on top of the Mortirolo and then they went down and then they came to another climb this might be another stage this was a
conia conio conio this was that was the first year we did the show together uh and you have
but trago was good okay well there's my question answered because that's a 22 kilometer long climb yeah all right chicone but yeah because it's chicone a better climber than in your class right now um and like Mass is a better pure climber but um you could you could also argue it was better you all the best climber in that group yeah E1 I think Chicone is hungry you know he's hungry for a first stage when and these guys can
outperform uh and Italy uh I wouldn't I wouldn't rule out Chicone for tomorrow
and he builds up his advantage on yona's on the first climb there wins he doing that
but he needs to be in the break he needs to be in the group um um I think it's going to be gc Spencer gc battle high for hard time this is the worst possible
“park horse for a breakaway because there's no you you have to build up your advantage on the first”
climb and it's going to be bananas on that first climb as you can be I mean what do you think Chicone monogos in the breakaway tries to win the stage I think so yeah I think so and but then if you can Bernogos you know what's going to happen we know what's going to happen here you're going to have uh you're going to have two door jump and after him because then I want them to make up spots in the gc we've seen this movie yeah so yeah okay I I think it's been a guard I'm pretty
I'm confident in that I think whoever wins this wins the zero unless some unforeseen issue happens later like a crash a broken collarbone but I think tomorrow is yona's yona's day I mean he's
said in the interview he never says anything interesting he said we've been planning
this stage for since before the race started so that's telling you I want to win the stage yeah before we go I thought that this it was vaguely familiar 2022 to our day fronts stage 14 Monde Monde member that's like this awesome finish on the runway with the calendar airport yeah so Michael Matthews wins over Alberto Bettyall because he let Bettyall bake on that climb and then pushed right past him before the top of the climb and then held him off going into the
finish kind of a beautiful symmetry there then Bettyall years later four years later wins the stage and exactly the same way but the roles are reversed yeah yeah yeah well yohan but we'll be back
“tomorrow to break down this hopefully exciting stage I think it's going to be excited I this is”
a very interesting course they've drawn up I'm excited to see how it plays out and we'll break it down tomorrow right after stage okay Spencer speaks to all it's easy


