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but with, you know, much better than in mind, I think that was for me that was the move of the day. That, that, you know, that calculated effort to get over that climb and then bring it back,

then basically drive it to the finish. Amazing victory. Well deserved. Great rider, much better than.

For me now is also the big favorite for the green jersey after the days went. Everybody, welcome back to the move plus I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Bernille. We are breaking down stage four of the two of France, one by Mads Petterson, with his teammate, little Traitini, teammate Quinn Simmons in second, and Movis stars Rall Garcia-Pernia in third. And then we'll also predict stage five, tomorrow's stage five, with our outcome segment at the end.

Johan, it was finally, we, we had a break away day that the GC guys took a day off. They did not chase this back to contest it, but a break away went a big break away went at a very, it was extremely fast the beginning. I, I could not believe how fast they're going to force this break. It was, they're going 61, 62k an hour to get off the front on the flat. And this break went, Matthias, if I checked from little track that there's three little tracks in there.

If I check better since Simmons, if I check pushes away, I pulls a three man group away from the break away. It means that Simmons and Patterson can sit there while everyone chases them down. And then Patterson impressively stayed with the front group, so he had two teammates with him getting over the final climb. It was a tough, tough, tough climb. And then once that happened, everybody was seemed too tired to really seriously attack them,

and they had Quinn Simmons and Matthias by checked to work for Patterson. It gets to the finish and just absolutely smokes them in the final few hundred meters to win the stage. Get the green jersey. He has 103 points in the green jersey classification. Tadit Pagotcher's second at 55 points. And then X-Brenner has been him or Maya 39 with the Jasper Phillips in his 30. So huge day for Patterson. Not just in terms of stage wins, but in terms of the green jersey.

But Johan, what was you take away the day?

“Well, Spencer, before we start to talk about today's title, are you trying to ignore?”

I know my heart. My game last night. You know, this jersey I put it on on purpose for those who are not watching. I have a Belgian national cycling jersey on to honor our victory over the US. What do you have anything to say, Spencer? I mean, I'm going to guess you were supporting the US, but what I mean, what I mean,

I was in the middle of the night, so I woke up to some very, I'm not going to make it my move of the day, but I thought we should mention it at least before we started to talk about the stage.

My they started in an amazing way seeing that result.

It was the move plus the move plus Darby for sure. I would say though, I have the ability to read and remember things. So I don't know why in the US that it seemed like the storyline was like the Americans are going to destroy the Belgians. Like we're such a superior team, but we have a beaten Belgium since 1930.

“I believe it was the first game of the first World Cup.”

So that's not great to begin with, and then we just played Belgium and March and got destroyed by Belgium. And also we got knocked out of the World Cup. Yeah. 2014 we got beat by Belgium. And I was actually in Belgium with you and Ostenda sitting next to like your friend and his son.

And they were they were telling me like how humorous they think it is that the Americans think their team is any good and I but they had a good evening. But I was not shocked that we lost. I was surprised though how I thought they looked quite. I would say the golf and class was quite large.

The joy of this victory of the top, I'm not a big football fan. I don't know much about football. But man, the build-up to this game, you know, with the red card of your guys top score being reversed under dubious circumstances, I would say. I think, you know, if you look on on social media, Belgium is a small country, but I think. If there's, well, how many people are there on the planet Earth?

8 billion?

I think 8 billion of those were rooting for Belgium.

I don't think that helped us. It did not help. I mean, and also Spencer, I mean, with all due respect, you know, obviously the world cup is in the US. But it is not an American sport.

“You know, I think for starters, I probably think you should start.”

You guys should start to call the game, my name, football.

You know, like, you guys call a football, a game that's played with a ball that is not round. And most of the time, you have it in your hands and not in your feet. Yeah, I think that would be a good start. Really Italians don't call it football either, but culture, they are. Yeah, they haven't made the woke up for the last three seconds.

But culture is, like, culture is feet, like, okay. Yeah. I also think we got soccer from the word soccer comes from England. That's right. Just like the metric system, they switch up on us and leave us with this.

And then they're calling it something else. But I believe it does come from England. I'm not quite sure. I was just on the move with you guys. Actually, hoping that lands would elaborate a little bit more on, you know,

to the feet of the United States. I mean, for once I can brag being a Belgian, you know, and I was going to say, you know, is if there were any Americans on this show that we just presented. Because I was looking for one. Four one.

[laughs] But imagine, Belgium must be excited because it's, they're now in the quarterfinals. Quarterfinals. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's, this was, I think this is about the maximum we could hope for because.

On top of that, our next rival is Spain. Yeah. That's going to be very, very difficult. They're obviously listening there on a high. They're a foric.

The team played really well.

You never, I mean, you never know in football.

You know, especially in the tournament, that's a multi-week tournament. We'll see, but normally, normally, Spain should go through, I think. And also, knowing the Belgian mentality a little bit, this is like, this is like a victory. And then, you know, especially the whole build up to it. And they started not really good.

They didn't play very well. They're for games. But yesterday they played really well. Yeah.

“So that's why I was, I was, I was, you know,”

I was shocked that you were ignoring my, my Belgian flag. It's the flag. I'm wearing it for a reason. Anyways, I'm also off to one of the craziest games of the world cup is happening right now. Argentina was down to nothing and now they're about to win three to two. In a while.

There was a 10 minutes left in the game when they had, when they were down to nothing. Wow. But same, same happened with Belgium, Senegal. I know, that was an eight insane end of the game. 85 minutes to go.

It was through zero for Senegal and we won three to same thing. Yeah, that's, yeah. Anyway, any thoughts on little track? Mads Patterson. Crazy. I mean, amazing.

I think it was a masterpiece today of that team.

When you see that break away, first of all, it was hard to be in the break.

Really good riders, a big break initially. No, was it a 30 riders initially or 35 riders? I think it was 33. Yeah, huge. So, big break. But when you see the three little track riders,

Mads Patterson, Matthias Vachik and Quinn Simmons.

“I think I picked Simmons and who did you pick yesterday?”

Vachik. You picked Vachik, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, unfortunately for them, Mads Patterson was in the break. And it was clear that that was going to be their cart.

You know, if you see Vachik was away with, uh, who was he away with? Because he hadn't tried nothing. Yeah, he didn't take a single pull. Um, so they played it really, really perfectly. And I also think once the selection was made, you know,

first we had the intermediate sprint where I get my one,

the sprint against Phillipson and Patterson. And these printers were out of the race because that was their objective of the day. When you saw that Patterson kept going. And that he could stay with the selection. At the end, how many were there?

Seven, eight, guys. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine riders. Nine riders, oh, ten, ten riders at the end. Uh, so it was a Seaman, Quinn Simmons, Vachik and Patterson. Then, uh, Roms is the Braina.

“Really, remember that name really good rider.”

Roms is really good. Yeah, really good. Really good. And we had Raul Garcia Pierna and Pablo Castrillo from Movistar. We had Kevin Vachalán from, uh,

net company in Aios, uh, free go from NSN, Durston Trane who we will talk about, uh, after last year's welta again, new new new, new, new yellow jersey and Sean Quinn. From education first. So, uh, I mean, if you see Patterson there,

that's, I mean, you have to be really, really good to be there.

They couldn't. Um, and yeah, I mean, there was, when you see these 10 riders and you see these three little freck riders,

“you can say, okay, how, how can this not be a live track victory, right?”

Initially, Spencer, I don't know what you think or you guys have been commenting. Initially, when I saw these 10 riders, I thought it was actually going to be more likely that an other little track rider with wind, then Mods Patterson by getting away. Uh, but that was not their plan.

They did not attack, and they just kept it together. And, uh, when the way they rode on that last climb, Spencer, Vachik and Quinn Simmons, but with, you know, Mods Patterson in mind, I think that was for me that was the move of today. That, that, you know, that calculated effort to get over that climb and then bring it back.

Then basically drive it to the finish.

Amazing victory. Well, the zerft, great rider, Mods Patterson. For me now is also a big favorite for the green jersey. Often days when, yeah, huge day for green. I mean, I was watching the race with guys who have raised a lot.

You know, no, no, quite a bit about racing. I was surprised how much they were advocating for, like, Quinn Simmons should just ride away and contest a stage himself. But I don't feel like mathematically that would have been the best. I think what they did was the right decision.

And the green jersey is so important that. Yeah, they, like, it's a huge blow in the green. I don't think the guys and you and the guys who are watching it, you guys are not in neutral audience, of course. For this type of scenario, because Quinn Quinn is American,

American champion. You guys were rooting for him. And, and you know, if you would think, anyways,

“I think Mods was so strong, he's so fast, he was so confident that there was no doubt.”

Let's say, for example, imagine a scenario Spencer where Quinn Simmons gets away with Raul García Pierna. That's not a guaranteed victory. No, no, not at all, you know. So, yeah, when Mods Patterson got brought to the finish, to the last three and a meter, there was nobody beating him.

Oh, my lord. Explosion at the end was just, I mean, it was like, well, got char yesterday, same thing, it was unbelievable. It was, it was, I couldn't, I, I've seen him do it before. And as similar break, I can't off the top of my head, remember, where,

but, you know, that's, I guess, why he's so special,

because he can get over these climbs with these less powerful writers.

And then when he gets them into, you know, it's like a shark getting someone into a cage. And it's, you know, when he launches, there's no chance of him losing that. So, I think little track did the right thing.

Impressor, they got three guys in the move. Maybe three of the three strongest guys in the move might have been their writers, which always helps. Yeah. Yeah.

And I, we should also talk about Sean Quinn on EF. It was very confusing in the studio, because everyone kept talking about Quinn. I'm like, well, who, which Quinn? Quinn, some in Sean Quinn, which Quinn who's on first.

What are we talking about here? But he almost gets the yellow jersey's 28 seconds behind Torsten Train. So there was a chance at some point that he, you know, he could have gotten away and then gotten the yellow jersey, but he did not.

But it really impresses right for him. But Torsten, Torsten Train, the man himself is now the race leader. He entered the stage round five minutes down. And they finished eleven minutes in front of the peloton. So Torsten Train is seven minutes,

fifty, yes, seven minutes, five minutes, fifty three seconds ahead of Taday Pugachar. And the race lead. This is a guy who got top ten at the Volta Spania last year, who held the race lead in the Volta.

If I'm not mistaken as well. Yeah. And he's a strong writer like this. This could be big for his GC like what? What do, obviously, is this huge for UNOX.

This must be beyond their wildest dreams. But how long can this guy stay in yellow? Well, I mean, that first of all, they were 13 minutes ahead of the peloton Spencer. 12 minutes, fifth, 13.

Yeah. 12 minutes, fifth. Seconds. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, it's an ideal scenario for Pugachar and UAE. Also for Visma, I would say,

although you may think, okay, Visma is in the same time as Pugachar, but Pugachar has the leaders jersey. There's more responsibility on them. I don't think that changes anything at all

to what UAE has to do with the difference that now, they will have an ally. You know, that they will control,

and now UAE only has to come in when it's really critical.

When there's a big group, and they see that X can't control the breakaway, and that there's somebody in there who could potentially be dangerous. They have a great ally. I'd have to look at, you know,

all the stages now that are coming,

“but I think with what does he have seven?”

So he has a seven minute lead now, probably on almost almost a seven minute,

'cause it's 7.53.

Yeah, no, he has eight minutes,

he has seven minutes, 53 on Pugachar and Vivaar. So eight minutes almost. I would say, stay six with the turmoil,

it should not be an issue that he should keep the jersey there. And then, what's the next moment of the mountain jersey? I think at least a mountain stage, at least still that till then, they stay 14.

Yeah, I mean,

“is that going to lose eight minutes in the LSAS, you know?”

The special, there are, there's an endocentral, I see if there are stages that are really difficult to control. You know, so there might be somebody else from a breakaway, who could, you know, for example,

let me just assume, if you look at, just assume that Matthias Vachek is in a breakaway. He's three minutes 50 down. But, but Johann,

how he's not going to be there after the, no, no, no, no, no. So, the tourney is so interesting, because it's going to sort this all out, and then you're going to get,

there won't be people that can get in these breaks in the last season. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, yeah. Yeah, so it could take a while, it could take two weeks, you know,

to get to the third week.

They'll for this stage, 14. Yeah, he will for sure have it till then. Yeah, he will for sure have it till then. Let's say he uses three minutes on stage, 14. But, maybe you know, 15's pretty hard.

I don't think he's going to come back on the tourmalais. He's going to, I mean,

“it's not going to stay with the top 10 guys, I think, on the tourmalais.”

If that's, you know, maybe there's five, six, seven, I don't know. Then he would, you know, probably try to come back. He's going to have his best teammate.

He's going to be in front of him. Hall of the Anderson, you harness him. He's not going to wait for Thorsten Train on the tourmalais. Yeah, let's start that. Yeah, no, so he wait.

So that, no, he's not going to wait. He's going to write for his own GC, which, you know, is their goal. He was fifth last year. So I don't know. He might lose more than we think, you know, on that stage.

But I think he's definitely going to go hold on. He might lose five, six minutes on that stage. It is a weird stage. We should stay because they do the tourmalais, but then it's not, it's like 3% on the final climb.

So who is going to have this teammates to drive that? The thing is, you know, if you're not, if he doesn't come back, you know, he's going to have to write in the valley.

First of all, the down there, write in the valley.

And on a, on a climb with just three, four percent, you can lose a lot of time.

“If you're like, if you get there and you're cooked, you know?”

But it's the Peloton or the main GC guy is going to be pressing the pace, because if they can't distance each other, what are they doing in the fall? I mean, no, there's going to be definitely, I mean, they're going to be, at least to a, to a, you guys with Wachar. Two guys of this moment, Jonas.

Six hours is probably going to have a teammate, Raccoon, little bits are going to be there. You know, these guys are going fast. They all stare at each other. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm difficult to say,

but I think on that climb, my UAE, if, if, for example, you can note the N, and they'll total all there. Imagine how fast they're going to go up that climb. On the, on that. Yeah, the stage when is on is on the docket.

Yeah, they could, they could hammer up that thing and then try to, not try to. They would, he would destroy everybody in the sprint. So yeah, that, that could be tough. But he, he'll have it for a few days.

I would imagine, for sure. By the fact that after stage six, we don't have a mountain stage for a very long time. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a dream scenario for, for UAE. You know, it's actually, I think it's even better than, I mean, if you look at it now in hindsight, yesterday, you know, I said, well, you know,

would have given it to Alex Baudin and EF. I think this situation is actually even better. I know. I know. Because, yeah, guy has a bigger gap.

He's, I mean, they're both being Baudin is also a good climber. But man, you know, X is going to, they're going to kill themselves. What is jersey? You know what I mean?

It's, it's, it's historic, it's historic for this team, you know? Oh, yeah. This is huge. They hadn't won a tour station till last year. Yeah.

They win a tour station. Now they have the other jersey. It's actually for quite a, quite a long time. It's massive for them. Kind of interesting.

We really shouldn't be talking about him versus Bhagatur in vinegar. The more interesting question is, you know, he is currently, like 11 minutes up on Utibruks.

Like, can he hold those guys off and land in the top 10 overall?

“Like, I'm sure that's what I'm thinking.”

Yeah. I think I think he can. He finished top 10 in the Vuelta last year, right? Yeah. 9th after a similar situation.

Yeah. I mean, you can't compare. You know, he also like faded away gradually, but held onto a top 10. Top 10 in the tour is more difficult.

You know, it's, there are more rivals. And it's, there's a lot more battle for it. Top 10 in the tour is just so much more important than the top 10 in the Vuelta. But I think he can. I mean, he has an eight minute head start with the two favorites.

And a lot bigger head start with the rest. So, yeah.

It's a lot, a lot, a lot Leo, right?

Hmm. It kind of reminds me of that. Yeah, yeah. He led the Vuelta for four days, four stages last year. And then held on for a top 10.

Yeah. Get up. Pretty interesting to watch. It couldn't be a better situation. Or it couldn't be better for UAE.

This is fantastic. Congratulations, everybody, for making this happen. But anything else on the day, Johan? I mean, there was a lot of debate. I won't say coming from home, but should Quinn Simmons leave the team.

“It's like, is this a good role for him or should he go out?”

Obviously, obviously, I mean, I'm going to guess his George was criticizing that. And I'm also, in this case, I don't think he's neutral because I'm thinking out loud. He would love to have Quinn Simmons on his team. Which, you know, like, I understand.

But no, was first of all, he still has a contract.

I think Quinn Simmons, if I'm mistaken, probably. Probably for a few years. Yeah. Outside of it, he just makes a lot of money. There's not many teams.

No. It says he does not have a contract after this year. Oh. I think I think that's wrong, actually. I read it somewhere.

I read a report that, yeah, it does say that he's out of contract. He's actually not out of contract. Now, you know, what we don't know. What we don't know is with the management's change at little track. There may be some changes in, you know, preferences and sometimes people may, whatever has been agreed.

Whether it's signed or not officially or if it's just a letter of intent, you know, we don't know. That, that may be something to consider. You know, we all know that, Luca, virtually, not staying as a general manager is new management coming in. That may actually change the motivation of some writers who may want to leave. I know one big writer who wants to leave, for example, for end of that team.

I don't know if he's going to leave or not, but who is it? I'm not saying I can, I'm not saying. Okay. But anyway, so you know, there's there's also more talent coming. Fiddick's goal is coming with a teammate.

Right. Do Austrian writers? What is it? It was his name. Move, move, Berger.

Berger, move Berger. Yeah. We're a credible writer. Yeah. So that, obviously, there's more big names coming.

So a writer like Quinn who has ambitions. I want, of course, Fiddick's goal is not a writer that would be a competition for the races of Quincyman's wants to perform in. But I don't know. I don't know.

I, it's my understanding that although officially it's not an ounce that there is a deal in place for several seasons for Quincyman's. But that would make sense because you know how often do you ever hear rumors about Quincyman's leaving. Like never. So if he was out of contract, you would hear that.

“The only thing about it is he, like today, he was amazing.”

But he kind of operates. He's like an island unto himself at times. And if you think about him on, like if he left, little track loses what two wins a year. They lose their Swiss win.

They're dope when they win. So he's not, he's not like part of the machinery of that team that's making sense. It also depends how what the priorities are or now at little track. Listen, before little came in, it was track.

Factory tea, right? Tricks like a freighter or whatever it was. American company. They had to have an American big name. True.

Yes. This is now changing. No little track is now becoming a German team. So that may actually also change for equine Simmons. You know, maybe he wants to look for a team where there's more American priorities.

And a sponsor who's actually more interested in an American big name. Well, even setting the American this aside, imagine a few is on innocent and it's just unfettered ability to go in the, like whenever he wanted to go in the break away. It's kind of an interesting situation to think about.

Yeah. Like he can probably do quite well with a team like that.

You know, whether he stays or not, he does a lot of teams are going to be willing to sign him and give him a really, really contract.

“He's a really strong writer, very interesting guy.”

Very marketable, very visible, extremely recognizable. I mean, what's not to like, you know, as a team or as a sponsor to have him associated with your name. I don't know if they could afford him, but yeah, even like on Jaco, you could imagine, like, No, that's not like that would not be a good team for him. I don't think so.

I mean, well, no. Yeah. Some of these teams don't like think about movie star. I know. Well, especially, especially, I mean, Jaco has announced that, you know, after next year, it's over.

So, and there's no, there's no continuation in place as far as I know. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, we'll talk about that later. That's an offseason topic. Yeah.

Let's put a pin in that one. But that is kind of interesting. Anything else on today's stage, Johan? No, I think that's it. I mean, yeah, great victory for Patterson.

Amazing news for Thorsten Drain and you know, X.

And yeah, I mean, hard stage is the first four stages. You know, although in the Peloton today, it was for sure a lot easier. You know, for for for you, and for everybody else. But still, if you look afterwards, if you look at the fin and hit at the final results, there's still riders who are who are suffering.

The pace in the Peloton was not extremely high because it was only. Paul, it's an only Florian Vermeer's pudding, but they were suffering, man. There's people who are 20 or 25 minutes behind. Not just 12 minutes behind. That means that, you know, the efforts of the first four stages are already very noticeable.

Now, there's people getting dropped from the GC group that was going slow, you know?

“That's how hard it is. Where you surprised that, I mean, I thought Kevin Valkalon all things considered did very well, like even get in to get in that move with music.”

I was surprised. Is something obviously there's something not right with him? Yeah, because he should be dropping everybody on that climb. But because, you know, he's been struggling most week. He's been struggling yesterday.

You know, you can see that he's wanting to fight and he's fighting, but he doesn't. And today, today also, it didn't look easy. It looked like he was working, working, working, but he stayed there and he made the final split. So he may come into, you know, he may be getting rid of whatever buck he has and getting into a breakaway riding mode. So I'm pretty sure we're going to see him more in this tour of France in action in the attacks.

Am I biased or could Philippo Ghana not do well on a stage like today?

No, I mean, it's too hard. He would never have made it at bit those bit those.

Yeah, no, no, I don't think so. I also have the impression that, I mean, it's a little bit what I got from his interview after the team time trial. That Philippo Ghana, he did the zero, right? He did the zero, yeah, he won the time trial. That he doesn't start the Tour de France very fresh.

He said already in, in most week after the, after the team that trial, and he was extremely tired. And not just from the day, not just from the day's efforts, you know, so. I don't know, I mean, it's just my initial impression is that people Ghana is not starting to fresh the Tour de France. This is my, my theory that's become very taboo is doing the zero to tire will make you quite tired. But no, nobody seems to acknowledge this anymore.

There's like, no, it's great preparation for the tour. Wow, I mean, why would you listen, listen, listen, let's, you know, two years ago. Okay, we should go back. We should go back. But also, you know, look, for example, last year, Arnsmonded the zero was trying for a GC didn't really. Very good point. You know, get what he wanted, but he was still up there. And then he won two stages in the tour, you know, not going for GC, but.

“So yeah, I mean, that, I think that ship has sailed, if, you know, if you can, if you can manage the recovery period between the zero and the tour, it's possible.”

And do think, however, that going for GC, two times full gas, it's only given to two or three riders in this actual cycling. Two of them are, forgot to iron you or not, maybe one or another one, but everybody else, they can't do it. You know, I forgot that Arnsmonded the double last year too. And then, yeah, he's also kind of a freak though, you know, like who wins two mountain stages in the last week of the Tour de France.

And then two times winning from winning, winning a mountain stage, one of which was actually not from a breakaway. No, it's from the GC group. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also interesting that, like compare that to Remko, who just didn't race at all. Like it's just fascinating to me that you can have, you can all be looking at the same information and come to so many different conclusions about what.

“Yes, good preparation and what's not. It's really, really interesting. Anything else you want on the day?”

No, I think we've covered everything Spencer. Okay, so we're going to take a quick break and then predict give our picks for stage five and preview the stage a little bit. So we'll be right back. Everybody this episode is brought to you by Gusto. You probably didn't start your business dreaming about doing payroll taxes. Ed deadlines, yet there they are every quarter sitting on your desk, but guess what, you don't have to because Gusto handles that park quietly in the background.

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I think I got char is down. He was minus 7.50 yesterday. He's now minus 6.50 to win the overall. The market did not like what they saw today. Mads, Pederson, already minus 120 to win the points classification. Going by the beddy market today, he essentially won the green jersey. That's how important that was. The Mount Classification, Pederson plus 125, and then my favorite, the Young Rider classification, the Toro still the underdog at plus 150.

“I think we both think that that's a very good pick. If you want to make any bet on the GC, I would do the Toro for the Young Rider classification.”

I think that's probably the best price out there. But you'll undo the odds for today's stage on Unibet. I couldn't find them on draft Kings. Yeah, I think I've got them some time. Sorry for tomorrow's stage. Yeah, I believe so for tomorrow. So Tim Medley is the big favorite plus 170.

Second favorite, the Oscar Phillips in plus 300.

Then Benjamin, get in my plus 350 and all of call it plus 400. Those are the four top sprinters that the betting houses consider to be the pure sprinters. And then it goes straight away to Mads Pederson at plus 1400. And then it's mil after 10. What do you want to pull off at the client? So there's it's between four riders with the heavy favorite being Tim Medley. So we both think it's going to be a sprint correct.

Yeah, it's definitely going to be a sprint sponsor. There is no way this is not going to be a sprint.

“And I think, you know, the fact that the odds are merely and Phillips and those are two teams who are here for these guys specifically for these guys, right?”

I'm going to pick Tim Medley. Both of them are Belgian. So I'm both of them have proven that they're super fast Phillips and is proven to the France stage winner. It's multiple times. I don't know how many but more than 10 stages already, right? He has one I think in the tour. He's one 10 stages. Okay, all in the last four years.

Yeah, I'm going to pick Medley here because of the history, you know, he's usually winning the first punch sprint.

In any ground tour that he's done. Last year, actually, I don't think so because I think last year Phillips and one, right? Oh, no, yeah, last year he was not. Medley was not in the group. There was a split, I think.

Yeah, but usually a pure bunch sprint is Tim Medley of the first stage. He's super dangerous.

So I'm going to pick him also because he has a complete team around him. You know, there's, there's Van Wilder and Paripantre who are climbers but everybody else is four in the lead. Actually, he's my favorite to win the stage. It's a good pick because this is not actually you're on to something with him winning the first stage. So, twenty twenty six, two of Hungary's stage one, two of Holland's stage one, renewing tour.

This is now last year, renewing tour stage one, Belgium tour stage one, Paripantre's stage one, a Lulu tour stage one, UAE tour stage one, that's pretty, pretty crazy how good he is. Probably because I, my theory is he is the best sprinter in the world. Like, went, went all the variables are equal. So no, he's just like in a fair fight. He's fastest when stuff gets a little weirder, then yes, for Phillips and can, yeah, he don't mind.

The, the different Spencer with with normal sprint stage with come usually early stage two stage three in a ground tour is that now this is stage five. And although it's only five, the first four stages have been incredibly hard already. That's advantage Phillips. So, and then the heat, you know, the heat, I don't know how both of them are dealing with the heat. I mean, everybody's suffering in the heat, but, but yeah, I mean, he's very, very well known to win the first sprint in basically any race he participates in.

Well, I'm going to go with because of what you just said, this is not stage one. This is stage five and it's been a difficult four stages before. I want to pick Phillips and also it does help that is lead out man as Matthew Vanderpool.

“And I think that's partly why he wins so many tours stages.”

So, I'm going to fill up send a win, you're going with Merlier. I think it's going to be one of those two. We should also acknowledge, could not be, could be Benjamin Gurmai.

Like the first sprint stage of the tour is always just, it's so unpredictable.

Well, in last two years, it was a two years ago or three years ago, when Gidemai won green. He won the first sprint right? Yeah, it was in last year, but it was the year before. Yeah, and for some reason, for some reason, Spencer, I mean, you know, Gidemai has not been extremely young. Extremely impressive this year. He's one of few races. He won, I think, stage one in the Belgium tour.

But, you know, the two of the friends just shows up at the tour. He's a different rider. We've seen now two sprints, intermediate sprints. That's not the same as a bunch of sprints, but Gidemai won both of them. So, looks like Gidemai is back on his usual two of the France special level. So, we should not underestimate him.

Yeah, I mean, he's so good. It looked terrible, terrible, terrible. Toer comes around boom. He's not even near that. He won the green jersey. He wasn't having an obviously great year. Yeah, and then he shows up and when you're right, when it's the first sprint stage,

“I believe there was an incident, and maybe Philips and was caught behind.”

But then he goes on to go to more of that screen. Yeah, but I think Gidemai is quite very good when it's a hectic sprint. Usually he doesn't have the best lead out, but he's very good at surfing. And just being there using other people's trains, you know? Yes, he's very good at that, and he's one two intermediate sprints.

Not one of them. I should be afraid that he's one out of the peloton on two intermediate sprints.

Showing that, you know, you never quite know how much to read to those,

but it does show you he's on good form at least. But he wants to taste. That was for 25 points. And then yesterday was from the peloton. Wait, did he not win to, he didn't win to it, was he in the breakaway today? Yeah, he won the sprint.

And then when he just sat up after that. Yeah, him and him and Philips and just went back to the peloton. Well, I mean, even just to make the breakaway, it's you that. Yeah, he was good. Yeah. Yeah, it's about, I couldn't believe how fast they're going when the breakaway went today.

But before we go, we've got to do vento trivia. So you're going with Merley, right? Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So the vento trivia for today's, up as well, yesterday's was how many times has the two of friends climbed the tourmalade. This was very hard to figure out.

The vento provided answer is 91 times.

“Also, if you want to answer these questions, do not email me the answer.”

Go to ventoracin.com/themoove and put your answer in there because it will interview to win a $5,000 credit toward a vento bike if your choice. Not everyone has access to my purchasing. Either way, I purchase ventems as I go to Lance's garage and say, "Are you done with this bike?"

And then I take the bike if he's done with it. You might not have that ability. So this is a great way to get on a vento GS1 or NS1. But the answer for yesterday's question, they say 91 times.

How many times the tours on the tourmalade? We think it's between 87 and 91. So many times is the answer. Yeah, yeah. So today's question, this is a hard one.

When the tourmalade friends finished in fall in 2017, which is where it finished today,

a Frenchman took the win on best deal day for the first time in 12 years.

Who was that writer? Don't say the answer to go on.

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While you're there, you can use code the move 10. To get 10% off anything on their website, including the bikes. So check that out, and good luck. Good luck with your guessing. Anything else you'll on before you take off?

Yeah, I mean, just on my spederson also, another little statspenser we forgot to mention. It was surprisingly to me. It was his first win of the season today. He hasn't won a single race yet.

We all know that he has first race of the season. He crashed both of his arms. Yes. Which was horrible. And then, you know, like, what was it?

Less than a month, or maybe just a month later, he was at the start of Milan Saint-Rémo. And finish up four. Yeah, top five, yeah. But, you know, he was a bit behind that would say in the classics.

Because of that, but he's coming into form now. So it's one of those typical examples of a guy who has missed a part of the spring season. And then it's in really great shape a little bit later. So we're going to see more of this matspederson during this tour of France.

And also first, 61st win of the season as a pro.

60 and have obviously career as a pro. That's a lot of races. 61 pro professional race victories. It is a lot. Yeah, you're on to something there. This is like the third or fourth time we've seen this this year,

where a rider has a bad injury in the spring. And they look to be like on the best form of their career when they come back from it. Yeah, I mean, he did have a pretty decent classes campaign. Like fourth, the centerMO fit that roubette. Or so I fit that finder's seventh that roubette.

Yeah, you're right though. Doesn't win a race, which I was surprised to see. I thought he had won a race. But so this is his first one of the year. Pretty good win though. He picked a good one to win to be his first.

Yeah, I mean, especially the way he did it. That's, you know, it's, I'm pretty sure that he's not.

He's not sad that he hasn't won any races and that this is his first, first victory because this.

Yeah. It's something to be really proud of. So if you can win like this. Yeah, yes. So congrats to him.

Anything else you'll have before we take off? That's it Spencer. All right. Talk to you tomorrow and congratulations again on the big win.

“And we'll say to you should I should I should I finish with.”

The Trump who are you rooting for in the next round. Belgium versus Spain. This is how Trump celebrates. Yeah. Who am I rooting for? What?

In the next round, Spain is your two homes. No, the Belgium, of course. You're going to be getting some heat. Yeah, it's not going to be easy. It's not going to be easy.

That's that's a difficult one. But yeah, no. Listen, if if they win against Spain, I'm going. Jersey had glasses everything well,

on the next day. They want to get Spain. They could win the world cup. So that would be something. Let's not let's not get ahead of ourselves.

“I think we have to be proud of where we are now.”

Yes. It is a very big story. Sorry United States, sorry United States. All right. Well, we'll be okay, you're on.

I don't know. People will recover. People were very disappointed though. I did not apply hopes going into the game. So that's kind of what I was expecting.

But we'll talk tomorrow and hopefully, Tim or Lear, or yes, fulfill some wins. Okay. Thanks. Okay. Bye. (upbeat music)