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George Hincapie, Johan Bruyneel, and Spencer Martin break down a thrilling edition of Paris-Roubaix, which saw Wout van Aert defeat Tadej Pogačar in the Roubaix velodrome, as the sport's top one-day r...

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You know, I mean, if you see how emotionally he was, we, we, we have never se...

Bernard's so emotional after this. This is, you know, this for several reasons, but man,

imagine what a weight of his shoulders to win finally part of Ruben. You know, there's only two

races that Bernard lives for. It's Flanders and Ruben. You know, and to win it and against Bulachar, I mean, let's not forget, you know, if you look back now in the last two, three years, there's, there's only one rider who has to be able to beat. We've got your friend there. And it's well, Bernard. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the move. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Berniel and Mr.

Perry, Ruben himself, George Jen Capy, was in the team car for the race he's coming in live from hotel in Brussels. But, well, Bernard won the race, spoilers alert. If you haven't seen it, well, then art won the race over Taday Pagotto, a thrilling addition of the race with a Chase group, including Matthew Vanderbilt, who had a mechanical problem in the forest of Armberg, 98k earlier coming in 15 seconds behind. Yes, per stoven winning out of that group. So polishing

off the podium, Ben Architz is first monument wins since 2020. First win at either Perry,

Ruben or to our Flanders, which Johan can tell us is hugely important for a flimish rider.

But, George, I'll go to you first. What was your, what is your impression of the race?

You were on the ground for the race. What is your first takeaway coming out of this Peter Rubet? These guys are crazy. They're warriors. I mean, what a crazy race, seeing it from this perspective. Just so fast from the gun. I know we're going to break down a lot of the things that happen but like no break away. The amount of chaos that happens between riders, between directors, between the directors cars, it's kind of funny. I know Johan was going to

ask me about being in the car. I'm as well tell you, I mean, I told I looked back and I said to Dustin who was in the back seat and the time magnet who was driving. I did 17th order for answers. There's no way I'm going to do 17 in the car because it was so stressful and like so nerve-wracking. I mean, obviously it was a crazy fun experience as well. But like, Johan, I don't know how you did. There was so many years because there's just so much going on. I was going to ask you for

me while I was going to ask you about your experience because I know as a cyclist, it's obviously a very crazy race but you know now you see that there's a whole other race going on in the back. Yeah, and it's even crazy. I mean, it's it's a thing, right? I mean, that's the thing.

That was the little things like we were car 25. So as you know, you probably never had that

physician but like you know how important it is to just try to get closer to the riders of a rider

needs a bottle or a rider needs a has a mechanical like the cars don't let you go through because it like I'm not letting you in front of me before the section like it doesn't matter who's up there. And then another rider gets mechanical and you can't go nowhere. You're just stuck until they fix the the fixer problem was just so much going on and how close the riders get to the cars. I remember I mean some of the movies we did back in the day on where the like some riders are

punching the car because of the stress going on. You see it's just like you know at one point one rider and it was kind of cool. He stopped and he's like waving to the cars he was on the cathlon and nobody stopped and we're like you know we're not fighting for the win. So we're like you good he's like please do you have a six millimeter allen key like my wheels there's a phone also like I'm like give him a key. So our mechanic says like give him a key he's like thank you so much

like it's just in so many ways there's so many different races going on within that race of course the guys want to win the race. Guys some guys want to podium some guys are dreams to get top 10 some guys their dream is to make it to the Velodrome no matter what and you just see the passion and the pain these riders are going through and it's just it's a completely different experience in the car but super super fulfilling to watch it from that perspective. Yeah yeah for sure

I mean you know if you look at if you look at the race you I mean you George you've seen it from from firsthand but you know Spencer and I were watching you know no break away that's that's very rare okay the wind was I mean contrary to the the reports three four days ago it was tailwind basically but if you look the first 100 kilometers they did it in one hour and 50 minutes

yeah and that's before that's before they have to start the cobblestones then you know as always

it was this usual you know battle to do the first to the first section and basically that's already half of the riders eliminated right they never come back. Well as you know you're on like you know more than half a team there one goal is to make that break away. Yeah and and and that first 100k is not flat it's rolling very up very hilly for the fact that they went 50 kilometers an hour over that it was just it was so so fast and there was so many attacks and of

Course our big goal was to make the break away and our guys did a great job y...

trying to make that break away and be super aggressive and going with everything that was

sort of significant but nobody got even got the chance to get close to get away. Yeah and you mentioned the the chaos the mechanicals I would say the big out on you what's about the wind I've been our twin but the big thing today that I noticed is every major favorite it seemed had a mechanical problem some of the multiple ones like that it pagachar was this am I just

misremembering the race or was this a lot of flats from key riders. I think I have I have this

in my notes here and I want to ask George about it you know I mean we all know you know equipment has improved right I mean wheels are better tires are much better than wider tires so I think the minimum everybody rise 32 millimeter tires Gacha was riding a 35 millimeter tire in the front and a 32 in the back but you know I've had 38 I read 38 too that was the 38 38 I don't think so I don't think so I don't think so I heard that on TV but I heard an interview of Pugachar

and he said himself 35 in the front 32 in the back but anyways it's it's much different I remember when you were racing George we had maximum of a tubular back then 27 millimeter which is the I mean usually for the classic it was 25 and then for Paraguay was 27 but you know aren't we I mean so many punctures today aren't we seeing and hearing and reading from all these brands you know that you know they keep improving their tires constantly I don't know exactly

what it was before example little track I saw something about little track they were using something special and and I think I saw somebody from the management say you know well before the race our riders will not have a puncture that that was not true don't say that what's happening apparently they had two valves like if Western is they punctured the other valve would blow up the the time I hadn't ever went up to six bars they had an inflatable inner inner tube like a layer

inside liner inside that will prevent the puncture but it can keep you going until you actually get to a point where you can get a wheel but but why do you think George I mean I I'm a youth Spencer I think they punctured much more than then then I mean it was obviously more obvious because the four or the five big guys all had punctures you know but what's

going on why is this happening George I mean the only thing I can put it to is I think this

speed is so much higher that they're having a harder time you're actually picking and choosing the lines and yeah you can test these tires all you want but like going 50 over 50 kilometers an hour into some of these corners and you're not you can't you can't see the this stone you can't pick and choose the stone you can't actually pick and choose the lines so they're they're hitting these tones probably a lot more with a lot more intensity than they do in testing I mean these guys

they average speed was 48.9 kilometers an hour crazy I just think it's just a matter of speed and not being able to choose the lines like you wouldn't a training ride like yeah you go really fast in the training ride but you're able to choose your lines a bit better in the training ride than when you're going full gas 200 heart rate with guys trying to pass you on the right

left guys in front of you so I think it's just a matter of the speed and you know not being able

to have react to those super big stones that pop up once in a while what's the tire pressure what what tire pressure did you guys use today I knew you were gonna ask me I was like in a three seven range yeah under three three three point oh in the front and three point three in the back oh 32 millimeter tires let's talk a bit about what do you mean obviously you guys had to watch it on on a on a TV screen in the car but we could see it properly I mean I think that's

that was a game changer in the whole race we saw Pugachar puncture early had to do a massive pursuit

which he did successfully on on a different bike on the shamanobake and you know what it was actually fit pretty impressively well they mean they were yeah Spencer I heard the judge I don't know if you know this so Shimano they actually go around with the favor they they ask for their measurements so okay Mike was actually specifically for Pugachar I don't know that they the new neutral bikes on on the Shimano cars they all have a drop or seat drop or post so okay yeah you can but you could

see the handlebars were super wide it's obviously not you know not an ideal bike but he was on that for like 2k I guess 2k then he got his other bike but I think the game changer in the race was

basically the the mechanicals of on the pool in an armwork forest no well before you let's use that

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the race was essentially made was that mechanical but we'll be right back in the multi about that

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its teammates pull over with them. I don't know if you guys noticed that he gets the Shimano bite. There's no teammate to give them a bite. He chases hard they keep flooring for me in the front group some people online little upset about that I thought it was kind of clever though. He catches back on right before like 98k to go he's back in the front group. Also while this is happening Alpson's pacing and then Matthew Vanderpool attacks. Why is a question for Johan

that hopefully he will answer in a few minutes but he attacks dumps his team and then creates a group that Pagotcha can ride into gets a little draft catches back on. Unfortunately for Pagotcha

he catches back on right before the forest of Armburg. Well out of an art right there that's our first

clue this might be I was thinking this could be Vander today he looks good easily into the Armbreak

forest. Matthew Vanderpool is second wheel I believe and then Pagotcha struggling a little bit

I thought because they're going all out in the Armburg forest and he just chased for 20k. Vanderpool pulls over flat tire likely tries to get on his teammate yes for Philips and's bike cannot ride it because their pedals are different. What the heck is going on there? Teabirds a grass is over. He's shoving grass into the tire trying to get Venart moving doesn't work. Johan what what happened here? Well I mean I also found out that so apparently Philips and

is the whole year already riding new prototype Shimano pedals which apparently have different beats. You know you could say well it's not smart but you know I don't think it will ever be

There would ever be especially with the amount of riders that are on opposite...

premiere tech. You know normally Vanderpool would never take Philips and's bike because that

back doesn't fit him you know I think the mistake the mistake was made there and this is in a panic

situation. Vanderpool knew that the Grosso was not far behind. He should have straight got none that Grosso's bike. That's the Grosso's only behind them because he dropped them right? Yeah and that's also the baitable but you know from that moment on what's Vanderpool's goal he needs to get out of the artwork forest as soon as possible. I'll never bike it has but you know Philips's bike didn't work. Apparently Philips's decision to give him the bike because he didn't feel great

he said but he had also the status within the team but I think that I don't know I mean those things normally George you know we would usually talk about that before right okay if something happens it's weight until this guy is there he's not gonna be far behind Vanderpool should have known and you probably but couldn't think clearly that the Grosso could not be more than 30 seconds behind them. Which is that I mean I feel I've flattered in the armbar forest front flat myself

and one you you can't possibly you can't ride it you cannot ride it no matter what. Yeah um two it's like yeah it's hard to make those decisions that people exactly where people are and you're right it's Hilfson's hand in the bike he probably thought let me just get out of this forest but to see him decide 50 meters there this is not working get off his bike walk back to where he started

it's just like we've never seen anything like that kind of kind of a wild sight and he was there for

a minute he lost two minutes he lost two minutes. I mean he punctured again afterwards right so he got on on on his bike with the Grosso's front wheel which was also yeah I don't know why the Grosso didn't just give him the bike or was he also on those prototype pedals I don't know I mean in that case then that's obviously a big mistake because you know well we had listen but you know do you remember we had this this this issue with Lance yeah because Lance was

riding different pedals and we always had Churchill riding the same pedals as Lance yeah in case something happened then usually Churchill was the guy who was almost sure going to be there in any situation right yeah and being a team of that statue or being the past winner of the race you think they would have had like the emergency plan in place like to not take this bike grab a wheel or but again it's at the aromberg forest is now it's expected inside the road it's

hard to make a rational decision at that point. I think I think also you know it's also a

situation that Matthew from the pool is not used to deal with because if I mean I would have to look

back but he never had a number of him flat have a flat in any of the three lost additions

yeah and in any race I mean I was I don't think I've ever I've never seen him have a mechanical problem in a except the flip in 2019 flanders in an important point of any race right kind of probably speaks with bike handling but yeah it was fine I mean I was a friggin scrub like on the these crappy teams I was on we were not allowed to run different pedals than the teammates like I'm shocked that this happened but if you say Lance was doing it it must be you know it's

a thing that happens at the top level so they get out of the the aromberg forest but did you see this show on Vanderpool gets on his bike with the grass as wheel and then as the pole over again it looked like there was something oh you have a flat yeah I thought the grass gave him his wheel that was not flat yeah another flat okay in the aromberg in the aromberg last two hundred meters of the aromberg so he had and then he said so he had to get off again and then he got the

team car was there and he got a spare bike yeah that's insane I mean the fact that he's still was fighting for podium that's crazy is incredible yeah yeah and so my five-year-old son saying what you're on the same he's like just get out of the forest get out of the forest what do you mean so there's this elite front group exiting the forest minutes in front of Vanderpool with the nature about two minutes was two minutes at the exit of the forest and we didn't see

the we didn't really didn't really see any of the racing in the forest unfortunately because we just

saw Vanderpool inside of the road and it's leport the key the key people are leport

a team eight event a van art in that group with pagacha with meds Petterson and eventually they have fully pagana so that's a strong group but then a lot of teammates left so the pace is kind of stalling a little bit and then there's a tax going on van art you know it's thinning the group

Down as you want to minimize variables and Vanderpool's just on the front of ...

and that he can't know where he can really help him because they all have like Red Bull's got a situation up front obviously little little track as Petterson up there UA's not going to help

reason why I can help and he pulls for what feels like 90 kilometers basically and gets within

seconds so they're coming in to you left out van art also flattered right after the emperor and he was 20 seconds behind on his own so leports out there not really you know contributing to the the first the first group there yeah I mean there was all kinds of things going on

at that and then van art 30 k section I think pagacha flutter right before van art flutter yes right

yes I forgot your second flat he's chasing on van art flats he's in chasing on yeah you're right leports up front not really being forced to do anything um van art gets back on there was a lot of flats now that we're we're talking about this and then van art starts to whittle it down they end up dropping mats Petterson Matt's Petterson super analytical breakdown of that was what do you think happened they were stronger than me which I couldn't pretty well and then but I mean by 44 k to go

like exit of monsoe pavelle vanniple's a 42 seconds but it's a kind of a fake 42 seconds because even if he catches them he's been pulling the whole time like what isn't really have left to give um van art starts to play it super smart here he's getting asked to pull through but he knows but got you know it's a trap because he's gonna ask him to pull through then attack him on the cobblers van art plane at very smart knows he just has the hold as well but got your puts in some

pretty good attacks um the kaffro delabra almost crashes them out kind of an interesting move there's just she's throwing the kitchen sink at van art oh god take us to the ground we'll see what happens van art holds on they get out of there and the gap gets small it's 15 seconds by the end but it's enough and then van art smokesome I mean it wasn't even close on the belligerum you could see why van art felt confident that all he's doing if you look Spencer if you look back now

on the race you know van art you know they all had their fair share of of of punctures I think

in this case here if you look at all the favorites they had at least all minimum two punctures some even three yeah in this race it's just a matter of when do you have the puncture right I mean

when the the the second puncture of pogachar was no big deal he was back straight away

the second puncture van art was a bit bigger deal but also he got back but if you look from the moment in the armerk van art was first guy so the strongest there by far and we don't know because of on the pool had a crack at the flat but then he or he is also the guy from that elite group who starts the attack was a really strong attack and it was gotchard and betterson and betterson barely made it and then he got dropped straight away so

I think you know really well deserved victory for van art you know he I think he

I think the whole peloton's happy for van art even his big rivals

his came you know he he gave a very emotional injury I don't know if you saw it I saw it in flamish also you know he pointed at the sky and this was for his teammate when the first time he did this race eight years ago I think was it eight years ago yeah he was still he was not on this smile yet he was on this small belt and team and he had a teammate dive of art for yes I forgot about like a Michael goal arts and he knows the family really well he stayed in contact he knows the

family you know the parents the wife or the girlfriend and this was he said you know every time I come to part of it a bit I think about this and and this was this was you know with him in mind so

and you know I mean if you see how emotionally he was we we we we have never seen what van art

so emotionally after this this is you know this for several reasons but man imagine what a weight of his shoulders the win finally part of you know is there's only two races that van art lifts for it's flanders and rub it you know and and to win it and against uh pogachar I mean let's not forget you know if you look if you look back now in the last two three years there's only one rider who has been able to beat pogachar van and it's welcome on art we could say okay

scale moza beat him in in obstacle race last year but you know one on one this is this is you know he's the only guy who put with pogachar in problems is last year not only that but tactically for for vismally so like he didn't have he had the best excuse in the world to not pull through at a hundred percent he had a script of her report right behind one of the best burners in

The world so in tactically they were in the best position like they were in a...

yeah and yeah even even as they were coming on to the Belgium like we don't we were not used to seeing pogachar loose so everybody's thinking on he's probably gonna win this but yeah I mean

and art the guy who's gotten top four in the biggest race in the world consistently always there

it was such a good thing for cycling super exciting uh to me it was just like a perfect uh perfect win and as a fan watching the race was as good as it gets and I think I think you know it was it was very obvious from you know seeing the way he could react to those accelerations of of pogachar you know I know that last attack it was I don't remember what sector it was he came back to pogachar he had to stop peddling and he was so close to the wheel like

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it was just perfect and even pogachar said in the interview like he did he knew he could

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started today all right we're back so pick out your get second as you say I the torch I thought he's

going to win as well and then the sprint starts like oh okay then I'll tell this under control for a little while here what could be got like why did he lose your hand and what could he have done differently from both of you to win this race probably not plotting would be key right not much he couldn't have done much different you know if you look at it in hindsight you know he they were very aggressive at the first on the first sector basically he he he he blew up his I mean not blew up

but he wasted all his guys there they wanted their hard race and then of course he had the flat and then they were all of a sudden in a different position because the guys who who have been

pulling so hard were not there anymore to bring him back I think that's that's obviously a key

a key moment but you know the energy that forgot your spent there that pursuit of 20 kilometers to make it back and then you know once you're back no more teammates left floating on Vermeer's was still there but he also had a problem in our McForest so he was gone and you know given what what has happened in all the lost races everybody's just looking at him it's all on him so there's not much he could have done differently I think should they yeah let's not forget like

he was on a different bike I feel like it was more than two or three kilometers ago and I could be wrong and my coverage was in and out but it's to me it felt like almost 10 kilometers on a different bike you know he didn't come back on the Shimano bike you know I know that I know that but like so think about the stress I wrote it down here wait once I think it was like four and a half kilometers there was five kilometers five kilometers five kilometers yeah five kilometers in the middle

of a hard section there's at that point I could have tested I saw there was bodies everywhere I mean the group at that point was probably ten minutes long or more so imagine all the people he's got to go through groups like big big groups he had to go through change by response again and he burnt a lot of masses there yeah yeah should they have dropped for Mishback to help him

chase you on was Adam a state and after the first yeah the first flag no chase is a long time by himself

no no I don't think so no first of all you because you don't know if he's going to make it back

no I think I think that was not a mistake he had his guys they had bullet he had

Morgado he had a beer I mean they did a good job and then then he then he was basically I mean there was other riders there was a huge group what was so so yeah I don't think is and and this is Paris for Bay after a hundred eighty kilometers after tourica it's not like your typical race where you can get got your teammates organized like at that point after the arm like before the armburg right after the armburg like people are just on running on fumes

so they probably just thought like let's just keep from each there hopefully you can say there as long as possible it's not like it's fresh and I'm going to wait for progress or bring it back up but doesn't work that way in Paris for Bay especially that far into the race I think one

of them brand was George I mean looking I mean if you take out the the mechanical the first

mechanical of Pugachar I think their plan was just to you know make the race super super hard

and then Pugachar goes full gas in the harmburg that was the plan out yeah yeah the first for sure that was fun and that's very there's a lot easier said than done I mean to rally all your guys and that especially the way the race evolved in that first hundred kilometers with there's no breakaway I mean the fact that they were all there all the you know you're on you know hard that is you get those guys together so yeah but you're right they use them up really

really you know perhaps they they could have relied on the master class of a positioner that

Pugachar is to have them float that first part and then use them a bit more 1...

perhaps would have been within longer but you know you can look back and say that yeah that would

I would say that's the only difference I could have done is like they perhaps use their guys

way too early yeah what happened well on on I guess on that watching it it did seem like

by making the race so hard first of all that's just what they do every race and that seems to

work pretty well for Pugachar but it makes it easier he can enter the cobblestone sectors in a better position because it's just so hard there's so few people that can be up there but you know did you notice this he's he's right in the group he gets a flat he pulls off the team not know like what happened with that why didn't no one they just kept going and then he I himself listen I mean you ask is there something he could have done differently I mean

I don't understand why he stopped straight away he just stopped he didn't keep going because normally usually after every sector you have people coming there so or get a bike from a teammate I mean the thing is I mean the only guy I think he could get the bike from is maybe more goddo because you know pull it forget it Vermeers forget it who else is there Bierke is also a

pretty tall yeah that's the only thing is all those guys were super tall I think Magago

was the guy and Magago was dropped already so yeah and was it one of you guys that said this or somebody told me this yesterday a couple days ago that I think like 10 of the guy 10 of the U.A. guys were 12 guys were out with broken collar bones all kinds of injuries so their team is not at their best in general their whole roster a lot of their officers injured or hurt or on their injured reserve list right now so that perhaps could have affected the outcome as well

yeah well they still had a pretty strong team yeah of course it's U.A. but it's not a guess like George is you think about the key classics people that they usually rely on they don't really have them and you could see like Niels Paul it was yelling that people like hey our guys off the back we got to stop and wait you have physically having the three of them yeah so yeah it wasn't maybe the well-oiled machine but the thing is also you

know I mean in George you will you will testify to this there is no other race like Parube where it's so much chaos everywhere and so you know communication forget about it you know the cars are still behind that you know the instructions don't come through at that point I think the U.A. I was probably out of reach so you know nobody could have told you know these guys okay you've got you I mean I don't I found it really strange that Pugachar just stopped and it

took such a long time for your can and put it to come back but but but I think the first first of

all I don't understand why Pugachar just went to the site and didn't set a little like lack of

I don't guess experience of nobody normally no I mean normally as a teammate you should always

look okay if you don't see a leader you know there's something something going on this is not not here he has a problem yeah now for sure I got like that I mean if you see him you have to stop and wait especially if you have more than one guy that's for sure the guys want to hear there's like crazy status so vinar wind winds um gets uh which I'm a Tanya Pugachar the guy who didn't win a lot because he commands all of our attention but Pugachar win second monument first since 2020 this

is crazy I don't know what's happening in the second one oh yeah yeah well but our winds second

monument first since 2020 which was sin rainbow he's done 15 monuments since then he's not finished outside the top ten of single time is that crazy and then eight podiums in that time as well which is wild like wildly consistent so it's great that he finally gets a win here and then also this have so Pugachar and Vanderpool used to be equal in one like they were winning money like they one would win a monument together would match them we're now a Pugachar is one

five major one day races since the last time Vanderpool won a monument which was last year Rubei if we count world championships and monuments well what's the like I'm not saying Vanderpool's in trouble here but what's the fork what's the forecast for Vanderpool like winds is next it seems like the roads getting tougher for monument winds I don't know how do I don't know about that um there's three monuments he could weigh he can win it also yeah hunters and Rubei so it's

we're going to have to wait until next year he's not going to win the ash and he's not going to do longer because he's not going to participate what yeah yeah but here's another interesting fact Spencer and George so you know we have with Malice bike which is you know a team like historically all the former additions you know going back to Robobunk and we had Belkin and then Blanco and I

Don't know what else loto jumbo and then before Robobunk I think it was was i...

no no no no that was no well and word perfect yeah yeah 41 years of existence of this team in different forms first time they win partied a bit wow first yeah that's huge you know

that's huge I hear crazy stat that the Catholics never want a monument before

orange water or whatever yeah yeah yeah it's kind of really crazy to throw down yeah but well so yeah vinar winds that's big yohan big season made probably right new John Belgium huge

I think I think this is what Walt von Art needs needed to you know get his confidence back

in his belief in himself you know I think and he said it and he said it and he said he doubted many many times I mean this this is not just one time coming back this is this guy came back ten times already from whatever you know let's not forget Walt von Art has had some very serious career changing crashes and injuries yeah and the fact that you even saw him yeah he even saw Van Gogh go up to him at the finish line yeah yeah and make him immediately

congratulate him yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and so so I think you know obviously his great for his morale has believed in himself I think we're gonna see Walt von Art again that we used to

see you know and especially I mean okay we're always talking about you know one day races but

for some reason we always go to the tour of France I mean man with this in his back pocket now

what a demate Jonas is gonna have in the in the tour again you know with Walt von Art if he

stays healthy all right great it was great for the sport you know obviously you don't want to see all these punctures and mechanicals happen but the finish of today's race you know seeing another guy win a big monument I thought was it was incredible to watch really good for the sport and well Van Art I mean he still still there he says he's he's always been so close but becoming a way the parents were bay like now any of these other fourth place but they they don't

matter anymore yeah I mean he won't be bay and he's an other guy I saw George I mean and you know you know I mean that this probably no other race that can that you can get to the finish and I'll be after the finish so empty like completely done you know and then review an interview today with with Mathew on the pool it was funny and you know he had it was in English so you know

you have to translate he was so empty basically yeah yeah they could have fun the words

frame that you know like yeah he had to stop he had to he wanted to say something about what Van Art that he wanted to walk away which him yeah he could not say it it it did just not didn't come out of his you know it was it was that's how empty partying who makes you you know he was he was completely done done done done that was not only uh Vanderpool it's the guys finish 50th place too they're in the same mental state it is like they know what everything on the line

George to finish there you should off talk a little bit about your guys what did they say how did they finish and and what I mean you were on the bus now on the trip to to the hotel what was there experience well they we had five out of seven guys finish which is a huge deal for us I mean we I guess we we sort of proved that we deserved the invitation we were really aggressive with the star trying to make that break away unfortunately didn't happen

we lost Riley pick really early on due to a crash and then a couple mechanicals after that Sean Christian wasn't on a great day but all of our other guys Cole Kessler asra Mark Stewart Robin Carpenter we just flew over from the US they've finished in a group know behind with a decent with a decent group and they were just they was all kinds of emotions I mean the young guys were like I love this I want to come back which for me made me really

happy to hear because in a lot of ways parents who were vacant defined their career for the rest of their lives and they finished our today's race and they want to come back and they want to get better so for me it's particularly for the young guys it was great to see them how they finish of course a completely exhausted and in shock and how hard that race actually is but that's not on the expected at all and then we had been all over up there and like fighting for top 30

till they're very end and he did a great race and I always had to remind every bit it's been

Oliver's fifth race ever in Europe I mean he came and he was racing quite theorems last year so for the young there bad on out for the top 30 in Paris bait for me was super super fun to watch and I was really proud of the guys and you all know how much effort you put you guys put into the planning when I was racing with you guys and I see it now firsthand I mean we had like 30 people on the sides of the road and that's probably on the smaller side but how many the other big teams have

From from from people handing out water bottles the people having wheels to p...

what to do to wheels some of the people just say just give give the rider a wheel and just give them

have given out he let them do it because it might take more time for you to screw it up to have

an rider actually do it so it's just so much planning that goes into this race that you know quite well you're on and now I'm learning it that it's just it's unlike any other race in the calendar yeah yeah and and to finish it off Spencer and George A congrats to the Hinkipi family sixth place oh thank you in the junior race right how was that yeah six place that he was a little disappointed he was fighting for the wind they were right until the very end had to

make a huge effort to try to catch the breakaway ended up getting six so he didn't get podium but I I reminded him the last year he ran onto the bell drill and like 80 of place and I had to find a bike for him so he could finish the last 200 meters on a bike so yeah so fast forward one year and fighting for the podium ended up six place I mean I was super happy to see it and he's happy he's motivated it was it was a great day for him was that that's today right

that runs on the same day the same day with a U-19 U-23 pros and the women yeah yeah yeah finish there I don't know if you guys saw it so three riders in front do Visma Lisa Bike two of the best riders every Mariana Vos and Pauline Ferron Provo and the German was it what's his name Francisco Coch from FDG Francisco again and I look excited to know to that story Riley Pickrell that's it that they're they're boyfriend and girlfriend oh wow he was in the bus

took a shower and he's like I gotta go I don't know his girlfriend won the race so he was pretty awesome funny story yeah that team's on a hot run by the way omeloo strada ronda bon flander and pair of repeat yeah yeah it's an if you see if you saw her if you saw her ride and flanders what she did for for them evolving she was so strong yeah yeah yeah it was a surprise though that she beat Mariana Vos and this print but still Mariana Vos comes back

from a very long time without races she had you know sadly her dad passed away

a month ago or something and so it was her first race back but still I mean she's you know

the greatest female rider ever doing the plus wins in her career so yeah that was that was quite the win for the German the German rider yeah what do you guys think about this world we're living in where there's aerobikes now at Perry Rubei like UA will ride the same bike

for every race like gone or the days of do you remember all these specialized bikes rolled

not you know you know the pioneer the pioneer with that trend is George he you know he started I mean and everybody thought he was crazy Jordan started with high profile wheels the at the first ever either the right carbon hypers the George that's a good question what year was that you on like go for maybe oh three or four I don't remember yeah oh three or four and yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean let's not forget how it has changed because not that long before that George you know

there was okay there was steel bikes and actually a lot of riders were riding rock shocks rock shock yeah yes yeah in part in the bay i mean obviously the tire or a lot of lot thinner instead so yeah I mean visma visma and UA were riding aerobikes when the pool wasn't riding an aerobike well what's funny about that is his company can you just came out with the new bike he didn't ride it oops he didn't ride it he didn't ride it he didn't ride it I thought he was on the

arrow road no he was not he was not he maybe I don't know he may have started on the arrow bike

I don't know maybe for the first 80 kaer did you see a bike change of on the pool

in the beginning I did not no no that's not a thing back in the days I mean now that's not but because back in the days you know you had the rider starting on high profile wheels skinny your tires higher pressure and then hopefully there was a moment where they could change

back 20 k before the first couple and then I'll do another bike but that's how now you know

I'm not happening yeah yeah I mean that's crazy to be I am riding that same bike I can't imagine riding on the cobbles it's nuts I mean they do have a lot of clearance they can put big tires in there which is kind of interesting but poof respect to those guys for riding that the whole time but George we'll let you get the dinner to late yon okay got thank you we will talk all guys thank you see you next week all right bye

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