Do we think the Green Joe is going to come down to that final spin in the Irish?
I think it could. Yeah.
Which will be fascinating.
Yeah, it will be.
“And does it keep Vanderpool from going for the stage of mine?”
There's another question. Just Vanderpool, you'd imagine it would be perfect for that. Yeah. Yeah. I'd have excited.
I can't wait for Paris. Matt Spederson at his finish interview said he said he thinks it comes down to Paris, which was spectators as fans as viewers, that's pretty exciting. Well, good morning, everybody. I was going on here.
Welcome back to the movie. What are you laughing at?
I was just a little bit louder than no.
I know. I know. No, because my thing. I was like, whoa, I can't, I could in here. I find like, yeah, they're right.
I'm Lance. This is Sir Bradley. Patient number one, patient number one. How is it post? It's good.
I'm, I'm, I'm, it sounds fine. Yeah. When well, your guy really just, great dentist took a great take care of me. Took braids and beat me to get some gas when he gave you anything. Oh, yes.
Just that luck. Yeah. Local stuff. Right? Yeah.
George has some local stuff from Colorado.
“I'm in like local eyes, but did you get that, Brad?”
I did get it. The professor Spencer Martin, where the boy it's wearing on, we're over, we've got a half week to go or something. We of course are talking about stage 17, Alan, tell us, where we go.
stage 17 from Shambari to Voron, from Shambari to Voron, incredible.
I don't know resilience, grit, yes, for Phil Opson, I would not see that coming. I was thinking about you Spencer because this was, you pose the question yesterday, could this be a field sprint day. I think they're very sprint day. This was kind of a hybrid, right, I mean, but I mean, the story of the day is, yes,
for Phil Opson, this guy just hanging in there and I did not see this coming. No, I think it was far from a field sprint, it was kind of like a mini tour of flanders. I mean, these guys were coming in, crawling on their hands and knees and gas for Phil Opson, spoke about it in his interview, I didn't know what was wrong with him. The first part of the tour, but today, you got a really great day and thanks to teammates,
thanks to staff, the team, just super emotional victory for him, and very, very impressive victory being a mate, like he's a sprinter, like he is a hard and core sprinter, but making that break away today and having the legs for sprint like that, winning by three or four bike lengths was incredible.
“It shows you the range these guys have, like, even though all of Coin third, I think the”
average person is like, why do they even have sprint days? Why don't they just ride harder, they'll drop the sprinters? It's like these guys, people don't understand how versatile they are and how good they are in different types of terrain. I mean, yeah, the sprinters these days, they're just so well, they can do everything.
I mean, they can do these five K climbs, this is good as any being the world now. Yeah, I mean, the average speed today was 47.4 kilometers an hour. That's fast. It's like a box in match at times today. Yeah.
It was just people were hitting left, right, regrouping different formations. I think it helped that sprint late on in the stage as well. Yeah, gave us a bit more of a spectacle, is that what was Philipson's priority? I mean, it just certainly, when you listen to his post race interview, he was really stressing the importance of getting that stage win.
It wasn't he was, you know, I think it was weighing on him because the team had committed so much work and so many of those early stages or so many of the logical stages to get the win for him. He was really down on himself, you heard him talking about it, you heard him, he said a couple of super interesting things.
He said that he came into at least they thought as the team and his trainers and himself came into the tour with the best condition of his life. So imagine what that is doing to his mind where we remember those early sprint stages. He wasn't even close, so he's coming in and saying, I've got the legs of my life and he was just outmatched.
I found that surprising, secondly, and I would just warn him not to do this, if I heard it right, he admitted that he was sort of going down this rabbit hole of reading comments on his social media. Now, kept productive. This is yet another public service announcement from Uncle Lance.
If you're ever in the tour to France and don't read the comments, ever, don't read them
If you're doing great and don't read them if you suck.
But he, yeah, he was relieved. It was cool to see, and I mean, that is a very, very tough thing that he did today, obviously tough physically because of the stage because of the box you mentioned, but tough mentally to hang in there and to come through damn. Well, actually, and tactically, too, it's super exciting to watch.
I mean, they're going from playing defense all the way to basically 5K to go, 4K to go, and all the sudden they jump on the office and they got a guy like Vanderbola helping you out. That team wrote incredibly well today.
“I think they had 4 or 5 guys in that breakaway.”
And of course, there was one guy following what's his name, a playing cart was following Matt Spitterson in that early move, kind of flanked them for that sprint, Matt's went all in for that sprint. Obviously, took a lot out of his finishing sprint by doing that and ultimately ended up losing points and the overall lead there for the green jersey.
I think it was a miscalculation because he bridged up to the breakaway that Ben Wiggins pointed out didn't have any green jersey threats in it, but then he gasses himself going for that. He's putting out so much work to get that sprint, but Philipson just finishes a few positions back and then he's too gassed in the final sprint to finish high enough up to limit the damage.
He probably just would have been better off following Philipson all day. Yeah. Well, we can't talk about the stage up today without talking about yesterday but I mean, and I think we all have been around the sport enough. Of course, he came through our development team 15 long time ago, one of the good
guys and he laid it all out there. I thought he had it. I thought he had it. I was getting my, my, my thumb's ready for the DM and it just did this turn. After we just catch up to you.
I mean, you saw it.
“I mean, he just caked and solved and there was enough motivation and enough guys behind,”
I mean, obviously, you know, you got to go like, like, Vanderpool back there. You can bring back in almost anything, but I thought he, I thought he had it, and I was cheering loud. Yeah. This sport has no mercy.
Yes, provoked an incredible race, super aggressive, well-time attack, but it's just
all the, the different dynamics that happened in the two groups behind them, like arguably had they not gone caught, had they not had four or five guys without the same Phoenix, playing Matthews in the break. There was just too many sprinters back there, too much on the line for these guys that made them all work together, chase down, you ask for Steven, but it was a perfect move.
Otherwise. Well, it's interesting with the, with the usperies, you know, he said in his postory thing there that he can't believe it's taken into the stage 17 to win a stage. And actually, the one who's gone home is the guy who won three stages of beating. I thought, you know, we, at one point, we thought it'd be the other way round with that,
you ask, but wouldn't make it through this tool. So Shapo Jim, incredibly gutsy, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, does this one's easier to root for?
Yeah. As much as, as Steven was a heartbreaker, but a man, big shout out to Matthew, Matthew and a poet in that fun of the lead out. Oh, I was just blind. I mean, how they were, how they get those guys to work.
Oh, I'm blind. I'm a bar of that word. Yeah. I thought there was a band. Vanderbilt could have attacked over the climb and you had the speed and he held back thinking
about Phillips and the way they work together is it's incredible.
You know, on VDPs sacrificing there, I mean, there was a few moments that when you thought the Vanderbilt would have won that stage. Yeah. So great. It shows the camaraderie.
They have those guys. Should we, it's like clockwork orange, make little trek, watch this with their eyes open. Like Jonathan Malon, Matt's Pederson, this is how you guys could be. Yeah. Yeah.
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I actually really, really, really think that we are all going to say the same person. So Bradley, you're moving the day? Well, my, of course, yes, but fantastic, but Matt you've underpour. I would not underestimate his presence and his influence on yes, but all day, the encouragement he would have been giving him.
“And just knowing that Matt you's by your side, and I think Matt you've underpour was”
my move of the day. Yeah. I'm going to have to go, because yes, bestow him the love. He didn't get the win.
So we're not up to Matt, and my mind, I think he's just an incredible ride.
Went all in to try to get that victory. He's a compliment. He's led like the best teammate in the world, as well. He's huge factor for all three wins from Malir and still stayed 17 going for the win and unfortunately got caught.
Mine is Phillips, and he's turned his lancer and says he's turned chicken shit into chicken
Salad.
People thought green was over.
He gets the stage win. Green is back on. Yeah. I mean, this is exciting stuff. Another way to say that is you go from the dog house to the penthouse.
“But yeah, I've looked, the tour de France is, when I think about his win today, obviously”
the tour de France is, yeah, is the hardest sport in the world. This has been an incredibly hard one. It's been incredibly hot, but all that to say, we all know it's hard physically. What he pulled off today, I think, was a mental win. But for this guy to get kicked around and have to face his teammates and face his staff
day in and day out, think about the roller coaster. Again, I said at the top of the show, he was on the record saying he thought he was coming into the tour with the best legs of all time. So now he comes in at a high and then all of a sudden just keeps getting kicked and kicked and kicked.
Easily could have just slid out and said, I'm going home, you know, I maybe have one stage left, you know, I'm out and he hung in there and that's a mental win, right?
And so for that, I think he is, it proves both parts of the tour, proves how hard it
is physically and also proves how hard it is. And he was a great example today to stay top mentally and come through with the win. So you might move over the day. So do we think the green jersey is going to come down to that final spin in Paris? I think it could.
Yeah. Yeah. Which will be fascinating. Yeah.
“And does it keep Vanderpool from going for the stage win?”
There's another question. Is Vanderpool, you'd imagine, it would be perfect for that. I'm excited. I can't wait for Paris. Matt Spatterson at his finish interview said, he said it, he thinks it comes down to Paris.
Which, what was spectators as fans is viewers, that's pretty exciting. And there is an intermediate sprint. Yes. Yes. That's going to be very exciting.
Yeah. And should we fly to Paris? I don't know. I don't know. No, we should know.
I'm down. Yeah. This is my six year old. It's going to be nice. I keep getting yelled out of here and asking, so I'm ready.
Yeah. People are asking, do they happen yelling at you? Do you imagine this folks? You know, nobody likes me. We all, we'll get that out of the way.
“Bradley, you know, he's, he's, he's, um, prickly and a little bit, G sometimes, but”
George. I mean, that's also all agreed that everybody loves George. He has been getting just a cost it on the bike path, like that we're going to five miles an hour. I mean, these whiny Texans or whatever they are, just slow it down.
Yeah. I mean, I actually think it's hilarious. He's going six miles. He looks at his computer six miles an hour. Yeah.
And then what's even better, because you know the man, I mean, he won't, he won't react.
Like I've never heard the man say anything bad about another human being, which secretly
drives me crazy. Our neighbors in snow mass watched the show every day. Actually, the cyclist, yeah, we see him every day, he helped then pump his tires up the other day. But he's from Wisconsin.
And his accent is off the charge instead of all the serial killer from the U.S. Like Ted Bundy, you know, the other guy who they made a Netflix about, they're all from Wisconsin apparently. That's the job. That's the job.
That's the job. I never thought about that. The funny thing was, the first person out of me, I was going six miles an hour. I was with my 12 year old son and actually stops at, I'm going six miles an hour. The speed limit is actually 10 and I was so far away from you.
Like why are you only on my, he's like, oh, actually I watched you guys show every day. I'm sorry. I was like, stop yelling at people on the bike bad. This is a bike bad. Yeah.
I just love it there. You, you know, you just get rattled up. I think that's cool. Like your neighbors and those little fact, which Wisconsin's quite a, it's quite a unique accent.
It is. It's very Americans. Oh, yeah. We don't have accent. And you're like, you were speaking to be like, thickest accent.
American. Say that. Hello. Anybody been to Alabama? Yeah.
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I love the confession yesterday when we were sending Ben off. Now news slash for the folks who are not in the studio, Ben is still here. Aspen airport, not the easiest airport to get in and out of. But you confessed. He said, "Boy, he's leaving.
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Yeah. 170 pounds of luggage. Did you have two bikes, too, right?
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Do you know, so Tadipagotra is more tour wins than any active rider, not shocking. You know who is second? Yes, for Philips. Yes, for Philips. That's pretty impressive.
Do you know who's third? Uh, Tim earlier, Tim Merley. Wout Van Art? Wout Van Art? Pretty good.
A little rider there. He's been out biking. There was some buzz that, you know, I'd tell you, if you're a Visma based on and we haven't really talked about. I mean, there's some buzz around what Wout Van Art wants to do in the future.
You don't think a guard came out, but on one of the rest day and said, he considered retiring. Boy, you're looking at this going. Yeah, he didn't van. We're sitting there saying, he's going to go to like 28 29 l.a.
“I think l.a. is the one that we're looking at.”
This is this, what we, I mean, we have always, as we were watching this sport get younger
and younger. And the guys, uh, young riders, men and women getting more and more serious at a young grade, um, but, so just observing that, but then also wondering, I mean, could, you know, we all raised. I mean, you can't do as we know that the outliers, because remember, he no, just walked
away at like 32, he could have won another tour. Yeah, no. First did, I, I think that's more that it's like soccer, it's like that too. I think you guys were the outliers racing, so I don't know, that's just my view. Well, I think, yeah, I mean, but as this, I mean, Paul Saceus 19 years old, I mean,
as imagine a world, I cannot actually imagine a world where we're talking about Paul Saceus in the tour when he's 33 years old. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, it's a long, long time. Back in our day, it was like 28 to 32 was like the peak years.
And now it's kind of like on the older side, it seems. Yeah. Look, it dominion all the guys, like 18 people are trying to, oh, he's in a slump. He says, he's having it. I don't know.
I've never even heard that name in my life.
Who's that? He's the probably the best player on the team that just won the World Cup on Spain.
Oh, I didn't.
I got done watching. I did. Stop watching soccer. I'm back to not like in soccer.
“But you guys know, seeing the last word, I mean, once the hair came was out, true story.”
RIMCO and Jonas have the same number of tour wins. Is that not shocking to you? Who's that saying? You know, Jonas and RIMCO have the same amount of tour to front stage wins. Is that crazy?
I mean, that is so crazy. In fact, it's so crazy.
I never thought about it.
We'll be back in two minutes and 32 seconds, and we are back. One thing we didn't, we didn't talk about the first half of the show was Fatty Pogatars. Amazing, teammate. Adam Yates was sung. Yes, sick.
You don't know just a cold, or maybe you guys know, but he has stomach very sick. Didn't he? Yeah, he was. He was throwing up. Couldn't eat the dinner at all.
So imagine doing a stage like today without dinner, that stomach is not that's pretty horrible situation. And he looked like he was, I mean, he had his teammate with him, but when he crossed the finish line, it was just like, wow. But he shows you how fragile these riders are as well, because he's in the same team
of course as Tadi Pogatars and you've got for a bit something like that happened to Tadi. And we're such a relatively small leader, it's four and a half minutes, he's quite big lead. But with something like that. Strong, right?
Right. So it's wiped out. What do we think happened to him? Is it a stomach? Sounds like it.
“If he was throwing up after the time trial, he had something affect the stomach.”
So they got to like basically keep him totally separate from the team, quarantine him.
And you can see today, they really need him. They're like, you know, sending a guy, but they sent him well into back form, just to get him to the finish line in the hopes that he can be recovered for the next three very hard days. Yeah.
And the stomach, you know, if it was some other type of illness, that I mean, a lot of times the stomach bug can come and go in 24, 36, 48 hours, he just just said, dude, you've got to start. It will put well on with you, just finish it within the time cut. And then he starts, you know, he's got three, four days.
And if you can, if you can, think about it, he's, he's there number three, guys, like bug with charred del Toro at him. He's on the climbs. Yeah. So without him, that, you know, makes it, well, and del Toro is very good for the offering
up a lot of work. It looks like. Correct. He's fighting for the podium. So he's, he can be in his own hotel room.
I can't stop working. I mean, certainly without roommate, probably not eat with the guys saying, yeah, they bring him the food. Yeah. They've got to keep him isolated until he's healthier.
Well, it's good to say, did you have in any of your seven years any little scares that was unbeknownst to the rest of the peloton of the world's media, like illness or anything like that? Yeah, to go through in secret. No, no, no.
That's interesting because did you know, no, unfortunately not. No. And you'd think it would happen more. Well, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, let's so now with how controlled the food is and the kitchens, we spoke about the other day, you know, back in the day when you were in a camp in here when you were in the hands of the kitchen stuff at the camp in here, we booked as old. You know, I didn't you notice, like in the third week, you'd have, you're here with so many
guys coughing, like everybody's kind of like, it has this like they always blame the
outcome. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the set. Yeah.
Well, we did, we had to, we had to nail on this guy around the studio and we, one didn't wear the two. Yeah. It was the scare. We didn't.
Everybody had like allergies or something. Yeah. Oh, well, the smoke was bad, too. Yeah. That's clear it out.
Let's look at tomorrow's stage. This, this one's, um, this is an interesting one, uh, let's vote for a file, a zoomed in, zoom, zoom, zoom, uh, yeah, I mean, you look at it and you're like, okay, we can manage this. Mm.
Now, what is not on this profile, if you're, if you're watching the show, is the total work for this day is just under 4,000, yet another day, just under 4,000 meter. If you look at that, that doesn't look like a 4,000 meter day. What that tells me is, well, two things, one, from the start of the race to the finish of the race is obviously a net gain, um, but that, that's stuff in the second half is
just never flat. Like somehow you are accumulating, the final climb is not that tough 7.1k at 6.7% I doesn't stand out. Of course, you've got the cat one at the start 11.4 at 5% that doesn't necessarily stand up.
Um, but somewhere along the way, we're getting 13,000 feet, 4,000 meters of vertical climb. That's, uh, that's, especially no flat is there, really. I'm done. Upright.
That first 20k. And we're seeing these massive breakways go, like it's, yeah, 20, 30, sometimes, for almost
“50 guys getting up the road, which I think will be happening tomorrow as well, which”
makes it really interesting, exciting, who's going to, you know, be able to, what does Matt Spaderson do? Yeah. Exactly. I mean, that was a question.
Yeah. I think it's a legit question. He's got to try to get those points. Yeah. He's got to try to make that breakway for sure.
Ouch.
Before the big, outdoers days, this is, this is the last opportunity for lots...
in this race that haven't done anything yet. Yeah. See the guys like Caripass not even really trying today or maybe you didn't have a great day, but tomorrow, I would guess we'd see him and they're trying to get in that break. And what Bradley says is causing is, it, it's, it's not really breakaway as you would
have happened in a year old days. It's just, it's so desperate to get in his moves. It's strong out. It's single file for an hour and a half. And then eventually somebody opens up the app.
Yeah. So it's not like a controlled breakaway formation. It's just chaos until someone can't hold the wheel any longer, which is really bad if you're GC team. Yeah.
Yeah. Tadday was in the break up one stage. Yes.
And that's four always behind.
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Hmm. What's up?
You guys think wins tomorrow? Is it breakaway or GC day?
“Well, we know who George thinks, I think it's a breakway tomorrow.”
It's actually a great, great finish for Quincyments. Yeah. It is. Wow. Sure.
He was up there again today, working for Mad. Boy, I tell you, he was good at the fate. Have you taken down the, who's, who's that dude? You had the post-traum in your bathroom? I never had it.
Dude. It was a Greg by an Arbor Mart or the, I love Greg, but, who's the other one you had a post-traum in your part of the bathroom, don't put any. Because now there's Quincyments post-traum in there. Yep.
Yeah. Next to Chris Holden. Okay. All right. You know, I don't mind about the room.
Like, we're actually going to that. I just, I said, the earlier in the show, I told everybody, just how sweet you are. Okay, so don't. We're not anymore. We're not going to allow you with the new me.
No, not going to take in. Y'all that in the bike path. I heard Warner put him up to it. I am shocked. Okay.
You know what? Folks. We are two and a half, we said it's, it's not just tiring for the, for the, for the men of the race. It's also tiring for us.
It's, it's hard to hang out and ask them to call it out for three weeks straight. Expensive. Let's go to the callers. Call the line. Our number, we're, we're running out of days, folks.
Getting a lot of calls, which is cool, so we appreciate that. But not too late. Call us 9707182736. Call them a one. Call them a one.
Call them a one. Call them a one. In a lot of other sports, they have these, throw that days or throw that games. Would you like to see a throwback stage at the Tour de France where some of the teams adopt past teams, jerseys and colors?
“And is so what would be some of the ones that you and most like to see?”
Thank you. Love the show. It's a great idea. Well, first of all, it's several thoughts before I, and then I'm going to, because I know you, I mean, you have an incredible jersey collection, so I'd love to hear your answer
separately. But just real quick, because you were saying something about Americans, don't think we have accents. I don't know what you're saying. Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen, but that was a good question.
Yeah, shout out to my fellow South Korean, I'll point out one thing, I think it was two years ago. Yeah. That was great. Yeah.
That was great. That was awesome. They were in all the seven levels. In Norway, and obviously that's an old iconic American team, and they race in seven.
And kid, I have never seen it in Tour de France, though.
Yeah. But it is great idea. So, I'll proceed. And I think on the rest day, rode in another sort of jersey, it was a not-to-brough-mong-pulido, the grandfather of Matthew.
And of course, they rode a stage where they rode a race a few years ago in his old Hutchinson. It was like Vanderpool's first tour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Favorite jersey? Favorite jersey? Yeah. I mean, if you were, let's just say you were- Well, from my teens, my motorrotters, my favorite team.
I love that jersey. I mean, at that first documentary in 1991, where they followed the motorrotor team round, the classics, you know, and yet Bob Raw and, you know, those guys, you know, yeah. I'm sure. My answer, I'm strong.
Any, you know, with the speed skating was on the team then as well. Very kind. Very kind. Yeah. Favorite jersey all the time.
It has to be multi-any. Yeah. You like 'em clean. Do you remember the Italian? Do you remember the Italian jersey?
Yes. That's a cool one. Yeah. Yeah. It would be interesting to see the modern Peloton, if we're doing throwbacks, riding
on 70s equipment, 70s jerseys, and see how they'd get, well, no helmets.
“Well, and this is, I think I realized towards the end that he was talking about, just sort”
of throwing back on the jersey.
But at first I thought throwback gear, I mean, that would be, you know, imagine, no, I can
not imagine. Or even a time trial on road bikes. Yes. Current position. You see it sometimes at these overseas races.
Yeah. Can I tell you to do a pro-lonitrile?
I love it.
Yeah. I have to do it.
“I think one of the best jerseys might be controversial, original team sky.”
Clean jersey. Exactly.
It was a bit of a telecom rip off with a three-at-eat striped, well, the telecondro.
That's a great choice. That's it. Yeah. My point. Classic, yes.
Yes. Karrera. Karrera. The shorts. The shorts.
These motherfuckers were shorts before, even, anybody ever said, the word, "jort." Yeah. That was, I mean, keep pooch in, in denim, yeah. Spandex.
That was great. What? Johnny Booney and Gator. That was clean. That was clean.
He's kind of going here. Yeah.
Your boy in South Carolina.
Yep. The no helmet thing. I have not talked about that this year. But that is, we got to go back there. We got to go back there.
On these climbs, we're going to finish look, I'm looking at the finished tomorrow. It's uphill. Okay. These guys on their bikes are going to be slower than the gentleman that ran 159. That climb.
Like 30k now, right? Yeah. Well, that's got to come off on the final. I was thinking about this. I don't think it would work because you guys would go back to the team car and drop your
helmets. There was a zone. Oh, man. It's so fast going into these climbs. It's so fast.
It makes absolutely no sense.
“I'm just, this is how, look, Marco Pantani, who I think we could all agree was one of”
the biggest and greatest personalities in the history of the sport. He was a, he was a, he was an incredibly complicated guy and I certainly had a complicated relationship with him and by the way, he rest in peace and by the way, part two, I wish I didn't have this complicated relationship with him. When I look back on him and look back on his career, I want more time with him, not less
time. But he, he would not be the character that I am now talking about. If you just covered him up with helmets and sunglasses and in the climbs, he became Pantani. Is that you saw him, you saw everything about it, Fignon, you saw him, right? You saw the ponytail, you saw it out, right?
Tonicer. Remember the old PDM? These guys, I mean, that's your, like, holy shit. Look at this guy. I mean, I'm just saying, Jack Onkertill used to carry a comb.
It is back. So, as soon as he crossed the line, he would comb his hair back to the, for the interview. Come on. I mean, I adore what days. You know.
Call or two. Hi, guys. This is Rod from Monterey, calling specifically about Remco, with his lack of racing leading into the tour. Do you think he's timing it perfectly?
First week, building up and actually coming good to the last week of the tour.
I just want to hear your comments on that and join the show. Thank you very much. Bye. He actually mentioned an interview that once they saw the time trial was Sage 14, 16, 16, that they knew that they had to arrive at Sage 16 and then top form, like they knew they could win it.
“So yeah, arguably, I think maybe we're going to see the best of Remco in this final week.”
Yeah. The thing I noticed with Remco, I've seen them little clips of him giving the talks in the evenings to the team, thanking everyone with the champagne. Is when things are going well for Remco, he looks happy and when a happy Remco rides out of himself. Yes, and I've noticed that over the last few years, when things aren't quite going his way and, you know, as we've seen last year when getting off and I think he's coming in to his, you know, he's own this year and I think, you know, you have to say that the season he's had up to this point as allowed him to be in this state, you know, in the third week.
And actually saw, I read somebody sent me something today, which was quite interesting, will the tour start trying to make it more exciting by adding longer time trials, 16k time trials. So two over there, one in the beginning, one at the end, yeah, or work out, and I'm going, I don't know how he would love that. I have no idea. I would love that. I have no idea who sent you that, but this was three or four days ago. I had the very, I said, what would happen if just you don't have to do it forever, but you went, let's say in 2027, you go back and say, all right, we're going to do 255 kilometer time trials.
Now, I understand why they went away from that. They were trying to keep it tighter and animate the mountains, but at some point you have to say, and you could even, by the way, throw in a 50 kilometer team time trial, where time counts for individual classification, what I'm describing is a throwback. But give us 250k individual TTs give us a 55k team time trial that counts for individual GC, you could make the argument that it would animate the mountains, actually even more, I mean, it's not, we don't know, but you pointed out tomorrow's, it's sort of a mid-mounted stage, it's over 4,000 meters of climbing, like when is that a mid-mounted stage, like they've had as so much climbing elevation that perhaps they start rethinking that.
Yeah, you always get the critics that say, you know, you're only one that's all because of the time trials that were in there, imagine if they had no time trials, you went to one, you know, these are the comments who say, oh, you just, it's a general, you know, and I had that in drain had it when people want to go back and watch in drain in the mountains, you know, if they think that, but Bana, you know, we won 5 Tour de France, he won 20 of his stage wins in the Tour de France with time trials. Wow. Yeah, think about that.
What's the implication of Remco not, he just didn't race for months, does tha...
Well, isn't there a limit to how many days you can race anyway? There's enough 70.
I haven't heard that. I've not heard that. No. I've not, I'm sure, I'm sure you're now not going to race more than 70 days a year. I might be wrong with that, but let me ask, um, because I, I don't, I mean, I don't really care about that, but, but,
“and I, and I actually want to ask a question before I forget, as I'm 55, I'm going to forget these things quickly. But don't you go, sorry, I don't think so. All right. I'm, anyways, I still remember.”
What would have, here's a question for you. Like, throw, uh, and let's just use this year's race and the condition that you see and let's just use poker chart and Remco. Throw those two guys with current condition into a throwback tour that has a prologue. So factor that in. And then four or five days get the sprinters in a sprint stages and then boom, a 55 kilometer time trial before we have climbed anything before there has been a selection on a climb. So pound, you know, pound for pound, apples and apples, what does Remco, and then this is again, tidy, not being conservative. This is tidy, having to ride the best time trial that he can ride.
How much time does Remco based on these two guys today? How much time does he put on him? Well, based on limited in his 50 kilometers. Yeah, based on last year's time trial, which I think was 35 kilometers. He took 16 seconds. He took 16 seconds. And that was relatively flat. That was softer about four or five sprint stages wasn't it. Yeah, so yeah, almost 30 this time trial. Yeah, we're putting that to set. Yeah.
Okay. I was curious because it fits. If there was some world where it's a minute, you know, that if you're Remco, he said, okay, look, I have my minute, and then we're not. We're not factoring in a potential team time trial. Um, but you know, it starts to, that's, yeah, well, let's say, but if it's 30 seconds, I mean, the poker charts these 30 seconds is like, all right. But that's on a 50 K, so I'm trying to throw back would be 75 kilometers per load.
Yeah, we never did one of those.
Well, that's real 100 K. We're definitely at 60 K, though. Yeah, mid 90s. I mean, like, it injury. There was a 75 lack of us via, you know, if there's two 50s, let's say, Remco gets two minutes. That's pretty interesting for the mountain.
“Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think you're pulling it the right strings here.”
But that makes how they more angry. Yes, and it would be more exciting to watch. I think by limiting the time trials, they've incentivized sitting in on the mountain stages. Yeah, it's punches everything together. And that has become evident.
Yeah, right, that this idea of minimizing the TTs incentivizing guys to attack more, animating the mountains. I don't think it's happened. I agree. And then in your, let's do look, we're leaving out this really, really important part that nobody can mess with Tallypeg, a poker char. I mean, he's, you know, he's the man. It would force him, though, in a position where we'd have to show us more of his talents, which would be more fun.
Yeah. Yeah, if we ain't seen enough of them. [laughter] Repair is on the right mode. Yeah, kind of onto the right.
What do you do with the right? He's goat. Um, that's two, that's two voicemails. Cool. Let's do our trivia. And then we'll get out of here and rest up for tomorrow's day. Towards go home and ice is two. That's right. I was very concerned.
And I'm very surprised that you're here today. And I'm very, very surprised that you can actually speak. You were so concerned that he told me to attack someone so I was done. I attacked him zero response. [laughter]
Hey man, everything went well. Thanks for that. That was fine. I didn't reply. No. It's not like, off course, in my son.
Uh, Ventum trivia for the day. Uh, by the way, enter, uh, head on over to VentumRacing.com/TheMove to answer the question. Enter to win $5,000 credit towards the VentumBike of your choice. Could be anything? Could be the NS1? Could be the GS1?
Uh, yesterday's question. Sir Brad Lubigens won the 2012 Tour de France. And then went on to win Olympic gold in the time trial just days later. What made this feat historically unique? Answer?
Was the first rider to win the Tour?
And the Olympic TT gold in the same year? Hmm. And you were saying there's a caveat there. Yeah.
“I think it's a very, it's unfair because up until 1996, which was the first time professionals”
were allowed to take part in the Olympics. Um, before that, of course, it was amateur. Um, we haven't got a full picture of, you know, in-drain on the Tour in '92, when he won the dominate the time trials in that addition of the race. I think he won a Luxembourg by three and a half minutes.
If he'd gone to Barcelona, you would imagine he would have won the time trial. There was no individual time trial in the Olympics until Atlanta, which was the first one. There wasn't an individual time trial. And so, lots, I think Lance was the only other tour winner that got a medal in Sydney.
Hmm.
Wow. Yeah. It is a hard double. We should say.
Yeah, but it's very, it's very, it's a useful stack.
Yeah. You know, had MOOCs in his prime been able to do the Olympics as well as winning them. Told you to imagine he would have won a little bit gold in the time trial. Yeah. Here's today's question.
Young riders have been a force in this year's tour.
“And what year was the best young rider competition, the white jersey?”
Introduced into the race.
We were talking about this earlier in the tour, I think offline. Young riders have been a force in this year's tour. And what year was the best young rider? Okay. The white jersey introduced into the tour. Head on over to ventamacene.com/TheMove.
It's the interest to think that Paul Sateshust could win seven white jerseys before he's not eligible for the competition. That is crazy. That is crazy.
“That, I mean, look, I mean, I think you have to set it up.”
Can't be on t-shirt.
I think, I think they're probably, you can see them lowering that.
Well, they have. What is the race age? 25, 100? So you're 26. Okay.
Yeah. So I think it's got to go to 22 or 23. Oh, man. I mean, maybe 23. 23 is the category itself.
Yes. Look at that. It's ridiculous.
“To be 26 and to be just aging out of the white jersey.”
Yeah. Yeah. All right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. We will see you tomorrow, stage 18.
Thank you. Thank you.
