Pogačar & Del Toro Deliver a Dream Day for Mexico | Tour de France Stage 2 | THEMOVE

bike racer in the world and if they play their cards and they want to make the other, if they want to play games with the other teams, these, a guy like Isaac Del Toro, he is almost as you let him go, they cannot catch him, no. All right, everybody, we are back, welcome back to the move podcast, I'm Lance Armstrong, to my left joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, winner of the 2020-2012 Tour de France, eight Olympic medals, five of them of the gold flavor,

all the way to the left, Mr. George and Capy, 16 tours, nine of them on winning teams. I've had the pleasure in the back seat watching Bradley Wiggins tour in 2012 as well as like a robot, didn't talk to anybody in the zone the whole time. That's it, we let your

“muscles in parents. That's right. Yeah, and your buddy chased me down, I think, I remember”

the guy won the Vulta. He took a little pause on the robotic thing for a few years, but it's back, yeah, it's back. We heard it yesterday, we see it, we got the 18, 18 back. Spencer Martin are fellow, our resident propeller head, our professor there, Spencer, great to be here. Good morning, thanks for having me. I'm into as you do. I'm not, I've not started wanting yet, so we'll see if I get cold up next year. Yeah, and of course, joined by Alain,

virtually here. Alain, what do we do today? Stage 2 from Tahagoda, Tahagoda, Tahagoda, Tahagoda, Tahagoda, Tahagoda, Tahagoda, Tahagoda. The French guy doing the Katalan pronunciation. So I'm yesterday, not bad. The French one, yeah, on the French victory, congrats, Melanie, as well. They're happy. Yeah, I was, I watched, I'm all in on this

“work. Anyways, what I think all of us are all in on is what we just witnessed. I don't”

know, it's interesting to sit here and watch bike racing with this crew. I feel like we've kind of seen it all. Yeah. Until you see a day like tonight, like, what was that? That was unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, that kids, you went out of race a bike, has there ever been a more impressive non-win? You are that, that's the thing, isn't it? He was the orchestrate of this exhibition. Yeah. And let's not forget

what happened five, seven K to go when the overhead shot, the helly shot, Poetro went up to Del Torne game, the little motor, the motor, say no, it's yeah. Now probably meant like this stage is for you. You go on it. We think, right? We don't

know. I mean, you could have said I feel like a motorcycle. Yeah. But we've never

“like you guys just said we've never witnessed that ever. We're, I don't remember”

we've never witnessed it. We're a full-on sprint, 20 guys. That's the world. Like a GC sprint. Yeah. For time. It resembled the whole eno limon to outdo ends and it bump in a bunch of sprint. You know, with, with Pagacha, freewheeling, trying not to pass his teammate while his GC rivals are struggling behind him. Yeah. And we thought for a minute, Del Torne was suffering on that final climb. But he came back to the

front, chase down Skell most, which didn't amazing attack, but he basically pulled down that whole descent into the final finish climb and let it out with what six seven hundred meters to go and nobody came around. And Poetro obviously could have

came around, but nobody else came close. I mean, someone argued he's the second

best bike racer in the world. Right? And we are about to find out. But what a day for Mexico. Our old friend, Old teammate, Rola, Cala was was the first ever Mexican to win a stage in the Tour de France. And Isaac Del Toro now becomes the second big day in Mexico. Yeah. I'm sure there, you know, that's, this is just going to feed straight into the game tonight. Yep. With you guys. I want to show

that on the big screen in the stadium in Mexico City. Oh, my God. That would be probably well. I mean, he's wearing the Mexican National Champions jersey. I mean, this is, so it's, and think about his day. I mean, there was a point in the race less than an hour before the finish that he had to get either a wheel changer, a bike change. He's on the side of the road. He's not happy with the bike or the situation that they

brought up. He then is riding, I mean, again, this is something you just don't see. He's riding backwards on the course to get maybe to the next team card to get the proper set up. And then as alone, it's chasing back in the cars. There was a little misinformation on the time checks that the time check at that point said he was two

minutes down. Of course, when you first look at it, you're like, okay, well, that's his

boy. Yeah. That's a great point. And he rides a different UAE famously has every rider on the same bike and wheels to simplify the process for the mechanics and the team. And he rides his own. He rides a different bike than everybody else. So I would assume that had something to do with getting to that specific bike. The bond between those two, you saw that the fan, I mean, obviously what poker chart did for him. So guys, you can go back and watch the footage and rewind it.

But as you watch, poker chart just feathering this gap. He says, you know, in one part of his brain is saying, I have to stay ahead of Remco and Jonas. The other part of his brain is saying, I want my teammate to win. You actually see him yelling at him and encouraging him. At the same time, looking back, making sure that it's crazy, that Daltor is going to stay away, that that he's going to stay ahead. He is managing, I mean, he has playing this thing like a fiddle. Yeah,

he blunts out with 20 minutes ago. You can see right away, they put a gap on Jonas.

“Well, somewhat easily. And then decided, I don't come to let, I think I can let Daltor win.”

It's not like it's second. And the bond at the, that, what you saw after the finish line, the camaraderie there, poker chart picking him up, just bear hugging him up, picking him up off the ground. I mean, the, oh, yeah, special. What does that do for the team? I just assume that's good for morale and like the vibe. Oh, our good going forward. Yeah. It's probably, since we're talking about these two guys and talking about this team, let's just jump straight into the move of the day.

I mean, I, I think we may all have the same vote here, but my move of the day is random

cruelty. I mean, the ride that he did once they entered the circuits, he never left the front.

Now we didn't even ask for a poll. No, he just stayed on the front. And by the way, it's not as if he was controlling 60, 80, 100 guys, he had it down to 30 guys. No, just riding on the front. No, nobody else. Yeah. Yeah, you're against it on the wheel. He's not asking for any help.

“He easily could have said, you buddy, you need to take some pulls. But I'm an ulty who hasn't”

done the tour with UAE since 2022. I think it's always been a question mark of ours because he's such class and such an engine. Boy, the way they brought Adam Yates up at the end, there's no. Yeah. I mean, really nice guy. And he lives in Corona. Just, this kind of, I'm sure it's a crazy special feeling to just drive to the tour to France. Yeah. I probably had all this family there watching. Yeah. And when he did the tour, it's a little unclear to me. Lance, why? He

does the tour in 2022 and then we don't see him there until this year. Because in 2022, I don't if you guys remember this, he was on the front seemingly forever on stage 17 and to Paraguay, and he almost wins the stage. I've got your in a guard kind of sprint around him at the end. But he beats

Guarant Thomas who got third at that tour. Yeah. It's brand-newing ulty beat him on that mountain

stage after pulling all day. So huge engine. Like a credible guy to have in your team. Yeah, you think we're way we're talking about the stage now. How do you think of the other teams tonight? You know, you're going to be looking at this now. Vismar off to the high of yesterday and thinking, wow, what are we going to do now? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're going to obviously the directors and the managers got to keep the guys calm. You know, no, no, no reason a panic. I mean,

it wasn't a mountaintop finish. It was a 700 meter sprint completely different effort. Very different. So I don't think there's any panic, but at the same time that, you know, seeing the two guys there, that's a little bit different. Yeah, they're going to do it for no, this was a, this was a violent circuit. Yeah. I mean, you had three times around that section of the hardest climb pitched up to 13%. I think we were all surprised that poker chart didn't go then. Right. After, yeah, as chill as he was

to the finish to the finish line, he easily could have gone then. Which could indicate how confident he is that he doesn't have to go. I think that's right. You right now. I think he says, you know, good, but don't need to. But I don't want to blow my teammates' chance of winning up. Yeah. But I guess is why he didn't go. Yeah. But every time he's race this year, he's amazed us. Every time. Yeah. It's just getting better and better and better. Yeah. I mean, today, just sitting

up there watching, looking back, watching guys like young people go and Remco him and pull, playing with them, essentially. It's final 100 meters. So in that sense, it could have been worse. I mean, he could have, he could have gone, our potentially could have attacked on those deep section. He could have gone with, with a lap on a half to go. Then the dinner conversation is a lot different. Right. Then you're, then you're having to put bandites on these guys and, and bring in the

therapist. Whereas now, you know, they've been at basically finished same time. All the favorites

“were there by the way. It's worth mentioning. Yeah. Yeah. Um, obviously, I mean, I think you have to”

throw Del Toro into this thing because if I'm the director of that team, and anybody wants to make a run at Todd, I'll just play the team card. Yeah. Um, because because Del Toro's good is good enough

and they're going to tell him, look, this was an aggressive circuit that was super punchy and that doesn't equate to our long climbs in the Alps or in the Pyrenees. And we get along with Steshuss. Do you remiss not to mention Steshuss's mechanical? No. We don't know what happened there. The car gave him or the team is to make him a spare bike, which I can't understand. With 40 K to go, about 10 to really hard circuits. Yeah. Why would you jump on your teammates bike when you have

the car right there? It makes no sense. I don't know why they did it. And then he had to stop again. So he had a, the hardest, out of all the GC guys, arguably he had the hardest run into those circuits. Still managed not lose any time. So, like, when entering again, then change again. It's actually super impressive. If you did lose time, considering he was in terrible position when the climb started. Do we really think that there's conversations happening right now? Like,

no, don't worry about Pagachio when you get to the long climbs. Like, you'll be good. Or I wouldn't,

“I don't know if it's word for word. Or is everyone racing for second or third at this point?”

No, it's too early in the tour. I missed. It's too far to go. Anything can happen. But obviously, the record states, they're hard to be focused on. Well, I guess the Colombian flag is the best bet.

Yeah. Let's see the sky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I guess you never know what could happen.

Jonas does stay in yellow. Six seconds up on. I mean, maybe that's some consolation there. I want to go back to though that these bike changes, because we, we had an interesting discussion as we were watching the race and watching these bike changes going on. I always felt like this was the case. I never, you know, it's not one of these things you talk about, but Bradley brought it up and we're sitting there. You can take your teammates bike. Obviously,

your teammates bike is going to feel different. But every rider in that race has his own spare bike on one of those two cars. And they spend months trying to mimic and copy the feel and the fit of these two bikes. No matter how much time you spend, they never feel the same. They never, I mean, you can get the measurements right. And I mean, everything is exact and you get on it. You're like, this feels different. It's, it's the weirdest thing. And so it's, you know, in a perfect world,

you never have to make a bike change. But if you do, you want to get back on your actual race bike

“as soon as you can. And those, you know, even if you have to get on the spare bike for a while,”

and the team takes your race bike, they can be making changes to that, but with probably through the wheels, while they're back there. And if it were me, I would want to get back on that.

We never got back on when he finally got rid of his teammates bike. He got on what appeared to be

his spare bike because he didn't, didn't have the race number on it. But you told a really funny story about your spare bike while we were on it. Well, yeah, I mean, one year, I think it was the 2013 year, I had in those days I had speed play pedals, and they had different length axles that you could buy. So my, I always had a longer axle, but somehow the pedals got mixed up in the team truck drawer, and I had one shorter axle on one side. So my right hill was hitting the frame. And I couldn't

work out for for a week. Why was it doing that? But do we, do we think this is in experience? Is this like a product to be 19 years old? Well, that was my concern as well as how vocally is

“in the team. Yeah, it was a team leader to take on the mantle and call guys back or make decisions”

overpower the car. And I feel like he's being gone because he was alone. But at the same time, like that's not, he's 19. Like Bradley just said, that's the director's job right there. Like no, you're not, you're, we have a bike for you right here. Like yeah, you're not taking your teammates bike. Why? That's the on the director. And why no rider? Why no teammates back when we came back ahead, nobody with it. Yeah. But we saw, but we've all planned as well, didn't we? It seems to be the

modern day project was the rod is way the back of the peloton. And I would say particularly in cities, which is a steady, very technical cars everywhere. Like you want to have, even if you have a teammate there, like you're still going to try to get in the bump with the car. So I can, that makes it and especially in cities. If you can be on the car, that is better. That's more protection and quicker, easier to get back than being on the wheel of a teammate. And maybe a complicated thing. I mean,

if you are trying to zigzag through the cars come back to the group and you had one or two guys with you, there's just more stuff that can go on. Yeah, it's also more dangerous as more risky. And if you've already, if you've already found a car and you're going to wait back, and you know, sometimes you get two guys coming back in the car or a straight positive two guys in there out of the back. Yeah, yeah. You know,

it's kind of, it's never an easy thing to do. If we only knew a guy that had a team in the

motorcycle, I'd tell you what it is. We should highly, we could talk to a guy like that. But on the bike, I mean, it's arguably, our job was way easier on the bike because it was such a good bike handlers. We know we trust ourselves, but like sitting right seat with some of my directors, like they,

when riders are coming up from behind you, the riders are getting feedbacks on the right. You got to pass

my left. It's absolutely chaotic. And I'm glad I don't have that job, but I have a ton of respect for my guys. They tend to have someone in the passenger seat now who's calling all the

“shots for screens and things. Yeah. But back in the day when you're shown, you should be on the”

phone behind your bottles off. Yeah, and it was kind of cottage. You've eaten an apple. Yeah, time. But that was your needs. Yeah, but I mean, most of them were the same when they forever used to smoking. We don't have a ferretti, what a legend. Yeah. Today's show brought to you by Ekoi. As we saw during today's stage, it is hot out there and clear that heat management will be key to winning this tour. But while staying cool is key. It is still important to maximize speed.

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What were you about to say? I was about to say how good at Remko have pulled look today. I mean,

super solid on the climbs. Never looked like at the limit and also at the end, we can't forget

how technical and how fast they were going down at this end. So if he was, let's say, I mean, let us back. He hit the bottom with the gap. Had to kind of work his way to the

“tell them and did up getting third place. I think he had a final one. He still was time to a guy who was”

coasty. Well, no, he's been the same time. But he looks a lot better than. Yeah, but he says, well, but those two guys were perfect position into that corner. I think Remko was probably a little bit too far back, but he still came back on that climb. I think he had an awesome ride. I think Remko was great today, but this has never been the problem with Remko. Like a daylight today is actually very good for him. I'm more curious, like how's he doing the tourmalay? Like these big alpine

or, I guess, piraney and... Yeah, I mean, stays where there's a fact of that way to go on. I'm pointing out today. And unless you're sitting on this desk, you do not know how stressful that last down

those tires can possibly handle the road, they were going. So let's stress you have on that.

That last corner. And then have to go full gas for just under a minute. I mean, that's an incredibly good effort. I thought he played it really, really well. Go rewind the tape and

“watch the last corner before the last climb. I mean, it was... I was like, what did you see Del Toro?”

I mean, it was like his shot out of a can't. Zero breaks. I mean, he took him on the out like outside. So hard. But I said the motorbike, they can't, they can't go that fast around the corner. And he's also getting a little left from the motorbikes, which Remko was not. So he got back through all those things. So what's your top three? So you think Remko is going to, you think he could win this race? I'm saying as of today, yesterday, he's looking very, very good

for podium positions, still a long way to go. See, what's your podium? I mean, we got three weeks to go. I think it's... I mean, I think it's clear. I think it's, it's no story. I think it's Pogajara. Pogajara, yeah. Pogajara, then to go. Remko. Kind of like, you think Remko? I think Del Toro. I think that Toro was a better bike racer. And you know what? I hope I hope there is more. I hope sexist comes into the podium talk as well, which he is. I'm all right, arguably today,

he had a terrible run into those circuits, was able to come back, didn't lose any time,

incredible ride by him. Yeah. I mean, that's, it's going to be a really exciting dramatic

“Tour de France. The ex-factor is Isaac Del Toro, because he is... I don't know. I think he's the second”

best bike racer in the world. And, and if they play their cards and they want to make the other, if they want to play games with the other teams, these, a guy like Isaac Del Toro, he is almost, you let him go. They cannot catch him. No. I don't want to get ahead of him. We should not get him ourselves. We're getting, we are getting ahead of ourselves, but let's just riff for a second. Yeah. You won't catch him. He's that good. And what is it? Not forget, let's not forget,

sex stocks, boss, it is asked two weeks ago. I mean, he's still bandaged up. Clearly, that must have been some seriously deep wounds. TTT, his team was not the best team for the TTT, did not lose that much time. Today had a tellable running, still there. I think he's just going to get better and better. I think there's a world where, where those two guys go. I don't disagree with the George, but it's funny. We're sitting here saying, you're saying you think a 19-year-old is going

to get better and better through a three-week run saying that, which is, I tend to agree with you. I do think he's going to, like, especially the Alps, he could be very good there. Yeah. Well, so you did agree with me. I do. Yeah. I actually, the professor is agree with me.

“I think, say, shots, it was, like, secretly an amazing ride. We saw from today.”

And then I'm still, I'm still kind of going back to what my thoughts were. Red Bull had this plan from the beginning of the year. Like, start off the year, have your, you know, try to win these races at a much heavier weight than the Tour de France, and we're going all in for the Tour de France. Well, who does that? And I've played out here, does it? So they come out of the best, I guess. And, and, and, and this, if Remco had any stress before the tour,

based on the comments of team direction that we're, quote unquote, kind of let the road sorted out between him and the, what's, I mean, it's worth noting, Lipa, what's didn't look as best

today. Yeah. I don't quite, because if you watch Slovenia, he looked amazing.

So we can have a go. And how he looks, I almost sick or something. It looks off. Well, I mean, if it's a very punchy, very punchy technical circuit, it's not like going up, you know, appearing in the climb or the obstacle, I'm like, what he's suited for. So I think he's doing okay by just getting by in a circuit like today. That's a win for him. And it's kind of amazing. I'm surprised we haven't had more GC guys cut out, because if you look at the top 10 on the stage

today, it's pretty much, no, everyone was there. It's all the guys. Yeah. Like, I used to lose his three seconds. I think a lot of people would be very happy tonight than that one. Yeah, like, yeah, that's very good. Yeah. Yeah, I would have hated his stage like this. And then this is of course it was a gorgeous day. And it was another, another winning day for Barcelona. There was that one shot, you know, you're coming up. Yeah. The road was narrow. You saw the entire city in the background,

the cathedral. Of course, you know, the cycling who look and said the smoke going, I thought it was great. It makes you want to go there, which I guess is why they pay for it. Like, I would want to go to Barcelona right now. We're here. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes. I'm glad we're here because it's so beautiful. Yeah. We're going to go. Yeah. Pay a ride after this. That's the Georgian and Spencer, I'll have some rosé. Bradley and I'll probably pass on that. We're going to watch the next episode of

my flag. We can have it. Yeah. We can have some in a. Yeah. Yeah. We are, it is almost that time for our scheduled peacock break. I don't know if we want to ramble for 26 seconds. How about your friend tour who shopped with his team? Yeah. Yeah. Front, going to that climb. Yeah. That's really good. I don't know. Front going into climb and attacking over the top of the last time. I'm in super strong right on the stage with the bicell and your haunts and the tours running that team. Yep.

Okay. That's a legend. That is a legend. I boyk you race a bike. It's like a team is an obsession

feet at them at some point. All right. It is that time we're going to take a short break for

our friends over at peacock. We'll be back in 2 and 32. All right. Welcome back everybody. Back at it. Hey, a fun new. Well, I don't know if it's fun. But anyways, it could be fun. A new idea that we had last night. We were going to set up a voicemail number for anybody that I was like, what? I got to listen to Howard Stern all the time. It gets these people calling. That's

“amazing. I think that's a little harder for us amateur to do. But we did set up a voicemail.”

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“Stage three Van Duitt preview. Let's pull it up. This is after yesterday and after today.”

And then even looking at tomorrow, I start to want to walk back kind of bagging on the course. I mean, yesterday was I loved today. I loved tomorrow. The thing that stands out to me is is almost 4,000 meters of vertical climbing. So for those folks who think in feet. I don't know. That's about more than 13,000 years. On stage three of the tour to France. Not extreme climbs, but extreme heat long day, long day, hundred and ninety six kilometers, just under 125 miles.

And in an uphill finish, I don't know if we have a zoom in on the final kilometers, but it's not a flat finish. Now, the one caveat and I guess George, you saw a news flash about some potential changes, route changes. Wildfire or pseudo wildfires in the area. Why seems to be going on? It's hot over there. This stage will be hot in the interior of the country. Hot, aggressive, big chance for a breakaway. So we're going to see a super, super hard

fast start. What did you see? What did you just major about? When we were at break there, you said people gone a lot, but 17 minutes, 17 minutes. So these, there are guys losing 10 plus minutes after two days unheard of. But groups and several, you know, a lot of guys. So it's it opens up that opportunity to have these early breaks earlier in the tour. And you would just further listeners, you would lose that time on purpose so that then you have freedom to go

in the breakaway. Oh, we don't know. We don't know. It was such a hard stage that, I mean, I'm

out of just been a group pedal this time. They just got dropped the first time up and they rode in.

There's no reason to go much harder. It's just about survival. Three weeks ago, Grand Tour. I mean, if you have, let's say this with 20 guys, the last 17 minutes, man, kilometers, the

“zero tomorrow. Do you think the breakaway tomorrow, or GC day? I think breakaway. I think I'm going to go”

to George. Yeah, if we go back to the profile, I mean, look at the, it's a hard start. I mean, I would be shocked if somebody like, be a V-smile or UA want to waste all these, all these matches to control the breakaway right there. But all the other teams in the race are going to have to make that breakaway. So it's going to make it super aggressive. It's going to take a long time with the breakaway to go. But you got like, some of these breakaway specialists that live for a day like tomorrow.

And V-smile has no interest in, and no, I'd say I think we'll see a repeat of today. The main contenders coming together and not finding what to change. Whoa. Yeah, whoa. We said this last together. We said this last year. Every day last year. We said it's a birthday for the breakaway and every day. But who's going to be Bradley is correct about that. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to keep it the other tomorrow. No one, the natural speed of the peloton. So so some guys miss the break, they keep

it. Yeah. And, and you know, that whole kind of washing machine in the face. And then it gets too close to the finish. Yeah, it's a breakaway chance. You see it all the time, all the time. It's like thinking from 10, 15 years ago. I've like, oh, they'll set up and let the breakaway go. But

everyone wants to be in the breakaway. So much the breakaway never gets away. I don't think it was a break

anymore. No, yeah. Speaking of the hot temps, we saw a picture yesterday that one of the teams posted of a little protocol that they had going on before the team time trout. Now this,

I've never seen this. I've sort of followed closely to the technology around cooling your hand

and the fact that if you can cool the hand, you can cool the body's, you know, cool. Our lower the core temp, aka cool the body. I've never seen the buckets of cold water and basically in the time trout position, of course, on this trip, Bradley's joined by his badass son, Benny, had some more data on it. Well, I mean, we used to do this back in 2000s, actually, and it's, it's something to do with it. If you can keep the temperature of your wrist down,

then we'll keep the rest of your core temperature down. Really? Yeah. Well, the feeling of your wrist being cold is enough to keep your core temperature down. And it's all about keeping your core temperature down. Yeah. In 2009 in Monaco, the teams are, we had this wrist, like I think it's interesting. So if your body raises one degree in temperature, that can lead to 8% to 10% drop off in

“perform well. That's how important. Yeah, the overheating. Yeah. So if your threshold is 400 watts,”

if your core temperature goes up like 160, you've now lost 40 watts. Yeah, basically wow. Yeah. Wow.

I mean, I guess you feel like, you know, a hot Texas day, you feel slow. Which is why they're trying to keep it right down until the last minutes, and they got on the ramp. Wow. Which is yeah. Yep. Let's do a little bit of trivia. Like it is, each and every year, vent them trivia brings us to us every day. Yesterday's question was the Tour de France opens with the team time trial in Barcelona. When was the last, the last time the tour's opening day was a

team time trial? The answer 1971, Tour de France, Moulouse, one by the multimedia team of Eddie Merck's. Today's question for the vent them trivia. 2026 marks the third time the Tour de France starts in Spain. What were the other two years? This is the third time it has started in Spain. What were the other? Two of these questions are getting harder. Yeah, they are. Now, I remember for sure, remember one, and Johan will certainly remember one. Johan will know them all, but he was

on that team that started, we had to do a stage. You're not supposed to say, I don't remember starting in Spain. All you got to do is head on over to ventemracene.com. By the way, there's a code there too if you want to get 10% off anything. That's the move 10 ventemracene.com. I'm going to say the question one more time. 2026 marks the third time the Tour de France started in Spain. What

“were the other two years? That's important to point out. You have to know that, yeah, you have”

the course chatGPT tells you all these things folks. It's fun to have an asking chatGPT questions about the tour. Sometimes it's not right though, which I don't quite know we don't need to get into a high and how it hallucinates things. But like if you asked it about today, it might think that Del Toro and Pagato were on a different team. It has a hard time sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, I don't get it. Well, and of course, you and Johan show the move plus

I hate to say it. You guys lost money? Yeah, we lost money yesterday. Both of these guys yesterday, Johan and Spencer put money on Tadej Poguchar. But you had the right pick because he could have won. But it doesn't matter, you know. It might be he was like part of the, you know, it was like a scandalous thing with the bat. You do kind of wonder about that because he's purposely not winning. Like if it was a basketball game and someone was purposely losing. Just stop.

No, we're not even favors in a couple weeks. That was a great great decision. Such a, I mean,

let's finish up with that. I mean, it was, it was incredible. It was incredible. It was incredible.

I'm super happy for as you tell Toro or neighbor. He was happy. It's he that was genuinely happy. Tadej was happy. If I'm the other teams, I'm not, I was a headscratcher. I was worth losing money for it. That's stress inducing if I'm anybody else that wants to win the tour. But what a start to the tool. Yeah. What a great start the last two days. Yep. Well, we should

“say that's why you don't, Jonas has a zero in the pocket, which is probably so what? Well, I mean,”

yeah, honestly, but for for you of a very specific view of this because you won so many two of Francis, I don't know if everyone's in that position, right? Like teach to go to your sponsors. This race is, I don't even know the factor of what bigger than the second biggest race, which is the

that I agree, but also he never wanted Europe before and he's won the well to end the tour

“in France. So it's they feel they have all three in your pocket. Do you think it instead of finishing”

second every year does it help you mentally? Like should if Jan Orick would have gone in one

this year or before a tour, does that like put him in a better headspace than showing up and getting

second? I think with everything he's gone through in the last couple of years, I'd say yes,

“for sure. Okay. Well, that's why we have the race. Good for us. All right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in.”

We will see you tomorrow, stage 3.