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Lance, George, Sir Bradley, and Spencer Martin (aka The Professor) discuss Richard Carapaz's incredible stage win on the Tour's second trip up Alpe d'Huez, which saw him get his second stage win of th...

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I mean, Caripass Bradley, I mean, this is we said yesterday, we essentially g...

We talked about it a week ago, you know, the week three of the tour always, you know, there's always stories.

And we've had stories. He's very, very impressive, isn't he? To me, he's the story of week three. We said when he gets, when he gets that win the other day, that he's on a roll and he wouldn't rest there.

We lost three days to finish twice first and third, and secure the key to the mountains, incredible.

Yeah, next to the public charter, the best rider in the race, yeah, it's the final week, best rider. All right, everybody, we are back. This is the move podcast. Whew, I feel like I wrote the tour. The stage 20. I am joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins and Mr. George and Kevin, who's still boys are mad at me because we started earlier today. I got my mom as in town.

Oh, nice, my parents. And obviously my son's here, I got to get to the golf course right after this, so we had to kick it off. We will be joined by the professor Spencer Martin, but before we do, special guest, Alana Zizi. You hear him every day. This is the man who kicks off your day, tells us every day, because God forbid, we try to pronounce some of these places, although Sir Bradley could do it.

Alana, just to start us off here, what happened here on stage 20? Oh boy.

We thought, no, no. I'll talk you for a second afterwards, but just pretend like you're not here.

I mean, you know what I mean? Stage 20, what do we do? Stage 20 is from Blueboard Wazzão to Alpaduès, from Blueboard Wazzão to Alpaduès. They even better in person, and just some. Alana, and you've been just, but how many years have you been doing this for us?

It's been a lot, to seven, eight years, maybe?

I think he was the second year you did the...

Oh, it was. In Georgia and I were talking on the ride yesterday. How many, what do you think like 10? Is this the 10th year or the move or more? How do we not know that?

I mean, I don't know, we should know that. Anyways, Alana's been around a long time. You grew up in France, this is, by the way, sorry about the world cup, how that all went down for you? I don't know. Yeah, let's not go down now.

Okay.

Well, the first year was 14, like two years after I retired, I think.

But I didn't do the first year or two with you. What is it, Boska? 17, first year. With me or, I did my first year was 18 then. Your first year was 18.

So the first year of the move was 2017. So this is, that means this is the 10th year. Yeah. That's kind of cool.

So I think I've been doing it for 10 years, actually.

That's pretty amazing. Well, it's, it's become a mainstay. I just thought, and I think you came on last year or maybe the year before too. Anyway, if you're part of the family, you're part of the team. You grew up watching the tour?

Yeah, you did. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, in the south of France. Why do you succumb and do the vantu? Yeah, we miss it.

Anyway, I plan thank you for doing this. Well, thanks, guys. Yeah, along. We'll have you back. Should we have him back for the 11th year?

Yeah. [laughs] You know, George's wife does the tour to France family of ex-wift. I know. Just doing the recording today.

Okay, good. We'll just go on over. I'll line you to the man. He's a great day. We'll see it to pay a party tomorrow.

All right. Now, we get the professor back. The professor actually has some fun data for us today. He's living up to his title. He's got matching shorts and t-shirt on.

I'm pretty sure you're here with things. Stage 20, another run up out to us. Kind of an excited, what happened? Queen stage, 18,000 feet of climbing. Body's everywhere.

In fact, we're still just looking at the stage Finisher's from this just gives you an indication of just how hard this tour has been. Just how hard today's stage was. Not sure it was totally necessary in hindsight. The 70th, well, to start.

The time cut for today is 51 minutes. The 70th place Finisher today has just come in in almost 38 minutes. I'm not so sure that everybody's going to make the time cut. TBD on whether or not they let them in the race tomorrow. George thoughts?

One. Well, I've heard rumors that this is the hardest footprint stage ever. Yeah, I think that in terms of vert, vert, vert, vert, vert. Almost 18,000. What's the VOM?

The VVOM is high. What was it?

One 19.

One 19. Yesterday was 92. Yeah, because we haven't gone over 100. Yeah, I'm going to tell today. Very rare to go over 100.

But man, waking up at 4.30 a.m. I said my alarm. I wanted to, you know, 4.20 because I wanted to watch this climb. It was unbelievable how hard they were racing at the start of this mountain. And unbelievable how much work Richard Caripass did the whole day.

Yeah. I mean, he attacked with 4K to go to the top of Quadavare. Quadavare is no joke, no panic. It's great. One of the hardest climbs of the whole Tour de France.

And he just attacks all in for the mountain jersey. And then he even said his interview. That was my goal was to get that, that that, that point sprint. Top of that mountain. And then he's like, I feel pretty good.

I might as well go for the stage point now. Sadly, though, we did lose. Except because two crashes are arguably could have won the stage as well. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, so Bradley, we started to kind of saw it all.

Yeah. Right. You had a great. I mean, set. I just thought it was in the bag.

He was riding great. I don't only do crash once he crashed twice on that downhill. But I do think stages like this are far more exciting to watch than some of the other stages we've had in the mountains where it's been relatively flat with a final finish climb. Yeah.

I think these classic stages, these classic climbs, the gullibier.

You always end up with the worthy winners.

And it was there was so much happening today. Couldn't take your eyes off the race compared to some of the other days. But, um, big shout to Mads Pettison as well. Yeah. I mean, he got dropped on the category one at the start.

Came back, didn't he? Yeah. And then attacked. Got across to the break and on the intermediate. I mean, the last that those two guys, the last three days,

the last three days of the car passes had they've really been brilliant to watch. And Metz Pettison is, I mean, yesterday sort of referred to him as a heavyweight champ. I mean, he's just a junkyard dog. Yeah. He's like a steal like a USC fighter.

I think that's so tough. It's so, well, it's like we said hardest stage of the tour maybe ever. But like, I know people probably out there watching the set go on. What's going on in crash twice? But like imagine being solo in a sort of front stage.

Yeah. You're not going downhill. You're still at altitude. Your heart rate's not recovering. Even though you're going downhill.

I mean, he was all in and you're getting, you almost get the lyrious in moments like that. And you saw him happen.

I think he had to, look, this is a kid who grew up in Colorado.

He's climb big mountains. He's descended big mountains. He knows how to descend. I think the weight of the tour and the toll of the tour just caught up to him. You know, he might have been a little cross side by the way.

If you go back and watch the first crash, that corner.

If you watch it quickly, you may not notice what they had a lot of padding up. But then after the padding, they had just a, I don't know, a hundred yards of netting. Yeah, netting. And he, he, he, he can really hit him off that cliff. The very end of the netting.

Yeah. I mean, with the netting is there for a reason. God forbid you look over the edge. I mean, it's, you know, we've talked about this in the last week, especially in lieu of some of the shenanigans that have taken place.

This is a very dangerous sport. The net was, any unfortunate crash to get. I think he was just the net was on the second crash. But like you're saying, I mean, devastating result for, being in the, the hunt for the win,

arguably probably could have made it because he was not riding really well. Yeah. But the other outcome could have been absolutely horrible. So he's got to be thankful. I mean, we're all thankful that he didn't get hurt there.

Yeah. I mean, Caripass Bradley, I mean, this is, we said yesterday. We, we, we essentially guaranteed that he was going to be a factor in this race today. We talked about it a week ago.

You know, the week three of the tour always, you know, with there's always stories.

Yeah. And we've had stories. He's very, very impressive, isn't he? Yeah. To me, he's the story of week three.

We said when he gets, when he gets that win the other day, that he's on a roll and he wouldn't rest there. But the last three days to finish twice first and third, and secure the key to the mountains. Credible.

Yeah. Yeah. Next to Pogato, that's right around the race. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, probably by time. Yeah. If you just tally it up, he's the best rider. On top 10. When did you see you know it?

Yeah. Last year's first, first, first. Almost gets the stage when yesterday. I mean, it's, I don't know if people understand how hard that is.

Can you imagine yesterday getting that close to up to a stage man?

You don't get it. And then you're staring on the barrel at this stage. Yeah. I'm just like, I just, I don't remember seeing a rider a climber that can do these full gas to the top 10.

Yeah. You know, when every climb it's still be able to have the endurance to make the finish line. Like, he's just on another level right now in terms of what he's doing. Eight over all, which is very good. The impressive thing about him is he probably, let's say he put his whole heart into the GC

and wrote really conservatively. What's he finished? You think fifth? No. I don't know.

He's not that kind of rider isn't it? Yeah. It would be way less exciting to do so. He's better off doing what he's done. Getting 10th versus conserving, not getting stage winds and getting 7th.

I don't know that he's a top five guy with this field.

But, and it's great for EF.

Like he's always out there.

It's that's such a better situation for them than him getting six and not winning a stage. Hmm. Of course, this is the second time in two days that we've finished on out the way. It's kind of an interesting, it's funny.

If you just do the traditional out the way as you need to never even know that

there's other roads that come out and tie in to the main climb. Like, but I found out today. Yeah. I did get a fun picture from Jimmy Rickatello. Of course, the father of Matthew Rickatello.

If you went on out the way as they put your name and there's 21 switchbacks. So they put your name on the switchbacks. And of course, they've done it enough times. They're now having to double up and look at there. I don't know.

Got the old man. Turn 21. Did Jimmy take that photo? Jimmy took it. Yeah.

He's over there right now. And his son was in the break away. Son was in the break. He takes a group of people over there every year. Like a touring group and they hang out for a few days and train and watch the race.

Yeah. I think Matthew used to do those camps with him. Yeah. So he knows that climate from being the kid. And unfortunately, you know, we have this perfect setup here at the studio.

And we all sit here and we have the hot break. Chill chamber where we watch the race. We've actually been watching the race on flow sports this year. But before we come over here at the house and I, and you know, the only thing at the house is peacock.

So I'm watching having to listen to Bob Roll. And he's sort of big and up.

SEPCUS and Matthew Ricka Teller, which I think is amazing.

And he says, you know, these two guys.

They had the opportunity to be the first American to win on out the West since Andy Hampton.

And then Jimmy sent me that picture. I was like, wait a minute. What's going on here? I don't know either. Shout out.

We love flow. Shout out flow. Here's a question for you. If Taday hadn't written for Del Toro today. Yeah.

What were his chances of catching care of as a wing of the stage? He's 10 out of 10. Yeah. Yeah. So on that, what do we think about the way Taday played the stage today?

I don't like it at all. That all. Well, he only had Del Toro left. So it was either Taday or Del Toro. In order to close down that four minute gap on the value.

Even though they got pretty close. I think I should have done it away. Yeah. Good done it by himself. But you guys seemed to as it was going down.

It wasn't popular in the Hotbury Chill Chamber.

I think for my point of view, like I think you get used to being entertained by Taday.

You know, and it is exhilarating watching him do what he does. So I think the more he gives you the more you want of it. Yeah. He was a little bit like, "Oh, he's not going for it." But that was Shane.

I would have done the same thing. I thought it was cool what he did. Having said that, he didn't need to do it. No, he didn't. He sat down.

He was dropped. Del Toro was going to be fine.

He was going to secure third place.

By the way, there was a lot going on in this bike race. There was a lot when you think about a lot of time. All of the things that stake being, you know, the third step on the podium. Being one of them. Del Toro had it.

So I can almost see what you're saying. But I thought it was a good look. I thought, you know, for him, that's the same thing to do. And it certainly builds, you know, a lot of camaraderie and a lot of loyalty within the team. Yes.

If he didn't already have it, I thought it was probably the regular fan eats that up too. Right? They're not like us. They're not mean people like me and Bradley. He want to see him drop his teammate.

Crush, Carvest, the win. That's good. And George and I now were the nice guys. But on the on the Galibia, he must have come to the ball roll. Let's talk about them over the.

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Eight sleep dot com slash the move. So Bradley move with the day. Joe, I'm going to go a bit left left field here. And I'm going to give it to set course because I think the way he rode up till the first crash. I mean, he had to stage in the bag.

And after the tour they've had, we said the other day, you know, the interesting. What views I do now that they have a, you know, free free range to do. What they want to do and getting the break and set set was on for that. And I was a bit means when it first crash. I was like, you volley, you know, I did it in the bag.

And then the second crash happened. And I was like, oh, you absolutely, you know, that was my. You know, but then I felt really sorry for him coming across the line. And I watched his interview and I was like, God, it was a bit mean about him. And the way he took it and, you know, it was just, it was really sad.

So he said, yeah, move to the day for me. You get a free mattress in the post for that.

Bradley, I'm going to have to agree with you.

And I only that, but just his whole team took to responsibility from the first.

They said, tempo, the whole way up the first climb.

With, with in mind that set was the leader of the day. And he really answered that call of team leadership. Yeah. And was going to win the stage. Unfortunately, like I said, your delirious heart rate probably 200 at 7 or 8,000 feet of L2.

You're not recovering in these downhills. And you're going all in. You got carapats hunting down at 12 seconds. I mean, you're going to take risk. That is cycling 101.

And you know, it was a full day didn't work out fueling factor. Of course. Yeah. It kind of looked like that kind of stuff. So Steve, there's no way you're doing gels on that climb.

Like you're going all in. So this is hard. I mean, cross-eyed is cross-eyed. Yep. These things are hard to do when you're cross-eyed.

I mean, he's such a good rider to eat. It can win that stage of the zero. Yep. And they need it. Like, hey, set up.

So you want to try to win a stage? Yeah. You can't sprint. You can't time trial. Like, that's nice.

So he's right there yesterday too. Yeah. Having a great last week of the tour.

Bradley and I were shopping around for new jobs for him.

Oh, yeah. I think he needs a new lease in life. I do it. He needs to go to work. Yeah.

He's got so much potential. And I just feel like he's waste now. Yeah. He's job is done in that team. That team is still on the downhill now.

My move of the day is Matt's Patterson. I don't know if I haven't seen anything like that. Colder. Colder. Colder.

Just a sprinter. Like, I'm dropped. Yeah. Oh, now I'm just going to go back to the peloton. You know what?

I'm just going to bridge up to the break away. And he just sprinted across the break. Unbelievable. Yeah. He closed like a minute gap.

Yeah. What do you do? My move of the day. Richard Carpas. For the for the sheer fact that this man and this man alone actually made me appreciate

the polka dot jersey in 2026. Wow. I can't stand the jersey. I can't stand the jersey. Before today, I sort of was thing about this.

And I thought, you know what? This is stupid. Don't don't don't get points for this thing. This should just be a committee. The votes.

I mean, because we can all see who is the best climber in the race. Nonetheless, there are points. He has convinced me that he is a worthy champion of the polka dot jersey in 2026. I also think that he will at least he should be named the most aggressive rider in 2026. There could be some others that that that can make an argument there.

But if you're thinking about this, he animated the race. And I love the way he rides. Love it. Yeah. I mean, it just was just watching him from that first climb today.

He's going all in for the mountain jersey and still there at the finish.

Never giving up 1012 seconds behind and, you know, keeping that composure to catch it back up to

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We touched on it yesterday with the average age of the top 10 and this year's tour. I thought we would just sort of that would be our look. Spencer took a step further and went back.

I think decades and started and totaled up some of the average ages.

It's pretty shocking. I'm also going to talk about tomorrow's stages. There has been some updates to the route. France. Obviously heat wave.

Their fires seemingly all over the world. A lot of fires around Paris. Fires in the south of France. I know in my thoughts go out to the folks down in cap for where I lived. For most of my career, the entire peninsula has been evacuated.

None of the country has been immune to this heat wave and now the fires. So there's been some changes to the route. I could be interesting. What else? Anyways.

But before we do that, we'll be back in two minutes and 32 seconds. All right. We are back. We were chatting on the break about our friends at draft kings. They had a prop pit yesterday on whether or not Tod a wins by seven minutes or more.

Which, I mean, the smart money yesterday was like, of course. Today's stage, Queen stage. It's not going to lose time. And then we saw this, what we just talked about. We saw this teamwork essentially that he did for Isaac Del Toro.

His lead is now success. So whoever was the smart money lost money. Yeah. Because you're, but you're watching this going, no. No screw the teammate.

No, because you could have piled in that big. Hiled thinking how, how is he going to lose time? It's a guarantee. Yeah. Honey up with the house on it.

We're not going to lose. And then you would have been watching in horse. Somebody was watching in horse as he set up to ride with Isaac Del Toro.

Why, why do you have to be such a good guy?

A good teammate who cares. And just watching the house.

But this is why you should always gamble responsibly.

Because you would think there's no way. There's no way. But yeah. And it's also looking a little bit like on the Galibia. It looked like Del Toro was having a bad day.

It looked like we got tried to back off. We got tried to back off. But then on the last climb, it was really good. Yeah. Well, I guess the guy could.

And it really helped that he has a day that he potentially could have tomorrow on Montmartre and take back another 30, but 32 seconds. I think it's 628. Do we think they do live time tomorrow? Well, that's that's we last year what there was some.

There was a lot of money and frustration because of the weather that they stopped the time. Not a lot of fans of that. Certainly here at the desk. So who knows.

I haven't checked the weather. For Paris a few days ago, it was calling for rain in Paris, which no matter what the stage is, no matter what the circuit is in Paris. That just sucks. That sucks for everybody there.

All the families that come to see the guys that are finishing. It's just, but hopefully that's not the case.

Might not be raining now.

Okay. We'll see. Let's talk about that.

We have spent a lot of time talking about how this peloton and the best guys in this peloton

are just getting younger and younger in a course. The poster child for this is Paul Seychast. He's 19 years old. He's the youngest writer in the race since 1937. He's kind of ended up fourth in the Tour de France.

We've watched that a poker chart in his early 20s. You know, go on and become the greatest of all time. This would have been unheard of. I mean, I made a comment today. Yes, they shot.

It's just, he has, I mean, del Toro is very, you know, Bradley says, well, what were you doing in 19?

I was like, oh, getting drunk and acting like an idiot. Very different. But the whole thing is younger and younger, right? The average age. And you have the other years.

Yeah. The average age for this year's top 10 is 25.9 years old. That would have been unheard of in our generation. Yeah. And then if you go back.

Yeah. So here's, this is what's interesting. So I was going through every year last night. Average age of the top 10. Let's just say it's 25.

Average age of the Peloton at this tour. 29 years old. So like, well, quite a bit younger, almost four years younger. You go back to 2018. Garant Thomas wins the Tour de France.

Average age of the top 10. 29.3. Wow. Average age of the Peloton. Roughly the same.

29. And then you go back to 2005, 2002.

That average age of the top 10 never really leaves the 29.

You know, because the winner was usually between what 26 and 32.

About. And everyone in the top 10 was between 28 and 32. So you're, you're landing this 29 years of age for the top 10. Average with the average and the Peloton always around 29 or 30. So it used to be the same.

But now. What's interesting to me is the Peloton's not really getting that much younger. But the top 10 is getting a lot younger. Yeah. That is.

And back to the Seychelles. I mean, being 19 or so, yes. I know the team's goal was for him to be on a podium. But for him to finish fourth place, not have a crack to show.

He's showing that he has the foundation to ultimately. One day it'd be a Tour de France winner. George, you know, you were very serious. That's 16, 17 years old. I mean, you were great.

And you were already, and I'm be thirsty. I mean, you were, you were, you were on your way. And now you have Enzo who's same age. Like, if you can, if you can think back to, and I can imagine what you're training in,

and what life was like as a 17 year old, want to be professional bike racer. Compare that to Enzo.

And I think where I'm going with this is,

I think this is points to why this is trending lower. I mean, his life. Or yeah. I mean, I had zero nutritional guidelines. I just ate like crap junk food.

And then just go right hard. But now it's like, we wrote on fuel. Yeah, wrote on fuel. Now they like every, every rider's met. Every rider's measured.

They'll have coaches. They send in their training. The trainings to analyze. They have, of course, they train really hard. A lot more specific, but they also have a lot more breaks as well.

You know, they'll go full on for six weeks, eight weeks and they'll get a week off the bike several times a year. We never did that. And their nutrition is completely dialed in. There's no guesswork anymore.

Everything's measured out. They know exactly what they spent on the bike. Exactly what they need to replace. Exactly what they need to replace if they want to lose weight. If they want to maintain weight.

I mean, it's, it's insane. The knowledge they have now. Same for Ben. I mean, it's insane. Yeah, and stuff.

And daily to the team. And they're analyzing everything, weighing food. All that sort of stuff. But the thing I would say is, how long do we, what's the longevity of someone like sex us?

19. How many years now has he got the sort of front at this level at this, how meticulous he is to try and win the race? Do you think he's done by 29? Yeah, I think they go to, I mean,

I feel like the trend is like the go to 30. And then they're like, yeah, I'm good. 10 years full gas. The only thing about that. So usually, if you go back throughout history,

a writer has 10 years from their first big win to their last big win. Almost Lance is an outlier. Eddie Merck is a little bit of an outlier.

But it's almost always 10 years.

So probably, yeah, that that will remain. Like if your first big win is 19, your last might be 29. But with the amount of money on the line, you guys really think people are going to,

well, just disappear. You think they're going to hang on and not be as good as they were. Yeah. Like if you could make an extra 12 mil a year by hanging on, you might hang on a little bit.

Especially for that guy at Draft King's who took the seven-minute bit. Yeah. He's taken all the money. Yeah, the time. Paul success is 29.

Yeah, average sales. Well, you don't know who comes up and under them and behind them. Like that's, you may not be a 12-million dollar rider if the next. I mean, there is another, the next generation is Inzo's generation, right?

It's crazy to think that, you know, we could look at Inzo and say, well,

We have five, six, seven years before we even see him in the tour.

I don't, I don't think we could say that anymore, right? So there's this, all of this, this kind of hyperfocus on performance recovery training, data analytics, all the other stuff off the bike. Um, you're going to see younger and younger guys.

Do you think, like,

but got just 27, do you think he'll be you served by a younger rider or he'll just retire?

Because it doesn't seem like the younger generation is pressuring him at all. No, I think it works well. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Yeah.

I agree. Let's look at tomorrow's stage, which has been amended before we do. Of course, uh, next stage preview brought to you by high price. They have the, uh, Normatech Elite Legs deliver sequential pressure throughout the legs,

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This is more marked. Uh huh. Tomorrow said, yeah.

But, uh, last year was the first year we went on.

Yeah, I'm going to get confused because we had the Olympics. Yeah. In the turret of France, it was the first year and we did the Olympics here before. Yeah. Uh, by all accounts, and I think the news is still sort of coming in.

Due to these wildfires in this area in the first 50 kilometers in the stage. Professor, you said, they're going to basically shorten the stage to 86 kilometers. Yeah. Well, they're going to do the presentation in the start town. Yeah, I clicked that check, right? That's the important thing. And then you put everybody on the bus.

The bus drives them to the green S. So they parked there. And then they're going to get out and race for 86k. They've added a lap with the Shumps Lise. I think at the beginning, maybe the sprint points right after that.

I don't know what they're going to do about that. And then three laps of the climb. The three passes of the climb. That's going to be really intense. I think not intense in the original.

So those are going to make it shorter. Yeah, like arguably no ceremonial start where they spend their first hour.

No, you have to do, you have to get the photos out of the way.

Yeah, I mean, Todd, I need a photo with the team. You crash one year.

It's really, I always worry about that when I see the guys.

I had crashed a little bit of everything. But. And then I guess the other question is, were do they stop the time? Or is this a real bike race? They're saying it's a real bike race.

Should be they don't normally say it's not a real bike race. So that's the thing you can ever trust. And then if they neutralize the time, they do it right at the start or right at the start. Yeah. Do you guys think it should be live?

Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Why go out there?

Why do it? Every year I've done it. It's always been alive. Yeah. I mean, I had something as does is, I mean, my mark is, is kind of sacred for the city of Paris.

So don't go up there if you're not going to race it. Yeah. I mean, technical course could be like a little only 90 k. But like I'm a little, the class like, but envision the classics guys, Vanderpool, Matt's Peterson, those type of people going all in for tomorrow.

Yeah. Real shop first age one. Hmm. Do you who do you guys think is going to? I mean, the way Matt is going right now.

Unless he's like, I got the green jersey. I'm done like who knows where he is mentally. But like, if he wants to go for the win tomorrow, I think what the team that he has, he can certainly win tomorrow. That you, that you.

I kind of think. Beautiful.

The only thing is, has he, it's just hard to know where his form is.

Like it's, he's been taking it easy in the Guppetto. Yeah. Yeah. I've been to start. And he just dialed up on everyone.

Yeah. I think a guy like that can, can do this last week. Super chill in the Guppetto. But can he dial it past? It's Matt's better than on a level.

Like basically a super human, maybe God level.

Like what he's doing? I don't know if I've ever seen anything like you saw the way, you've saw the way of Vanderpool one that stage. Well, with that seems like a year ago, but like he's in the same level. And arguably, he had a much easier week.

Well, not arguably. Definitely had a much easier week than Matt Peterson. So if he's wanted to go for the win tomorrow, I think it'd be a really good battle. Yeah.

And Quinn Simmons is bolted to Matt Spetterson just to support him. Or he's giving a little free reign. Yeah. I mean, 90 guys kind of hard to envision like a breakaway kind of way. Yeah.

I mean, maybe from the climb second, second and last time up. But before that, I would imagine it's going to be a, a shit show battle to get to the bottom of the first time up in mind. What about for gotcher? I mean, you know,

you would think he's done. He's he's he's won the Tour de France. He's won for what five stages. I can't see him going for the win tomorrow. You guess what?

Yeah. The classic stocks remind of me. Weird thing. At the Tour of Flanders, only two riders under 30 in the top 10. How weird is that?

Yeah, that is weird. So then you have this, there's no young generation in the classics. It seems like classics are all old guys. RIMCO's the up and coming classics writer.

Yeah.

Yeah. Strange.

Which we didn't even mention RIMCO's amazing ride.

Shout out to his, he's confirmed his GT and GC world class status, riding away from a guy like Del Toro obviously, Pulguchar probably didn't try to go with him. But finishing off the Tour de France very strong. Second place in the Tour of Best Ever.

Tour de France result in a super impressive ride. Maybe good one that stage. Yeah. And he got her earlier. Well, when you think we missed lip of it, just didn't with this last week.

We also missed Jonas. Yeah. And kind of wonder how much of a different race it would have been the last few days. Yeah. But those guys are tired.

I would certainly have to have race in a different way today. Jonas probably would have blown up the group yesterday. Because he would have followed, try to follow. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's take your calls. We got two more days. Two more days of calls. Actually, and you actually have one more day to call. And leave a message.

That number 970718273736. Uh, caller number one. Hey guys. This is Matt from St. Paul, Minnesota. We all love listening.

So Lance talk about his favorite jersey in the tour. I'm just like you hear your response on what we could do to make the climbing competition a little more exciting and better reward the best farmer in the tour. I mean, I mean, how weird is it that. I mean, about these questions.

I'm assuming the questions or the calls that Colton picks or before we start to show. This, this Matt guys got like, he has P or something. I mean, we talked about it. I, I don't know. I mean, I just think the best climber in the race should where it should be awarded that jersey.

But I also said earlier. I mean, I, I'm not going to argue with Caripass. I mean, he's tough guy. Um, he's a bikeracer. He's.

So I know it's it's it's been a long time since I was rude. You know, it was sort of sitting there applauding. The polka dot jersey in the guy who wore it. I mean, you saw the guy who had it two days ago. Perry Pontra, the guy was had it had his reverse lights on today.

On the beloved. Yeah. You can't have that that that that that doesn't make sense. Yeah. And so.

Um, and I probably have a lot of the. Just.

Old stuff with, you know, very rank would always.

It was it's all I care about. And I'm like. Man. Yeah. The way.

You can't climb with me. Caripass is not the fastest climber at this tour. But is he the best climber day after day? I think I felt with the aggressiveness. I mean, like today, he had to pretty much go all out on all three climbs.

And still made it to the finish line. I mean, when he when he and he got he did get a little lucky with the crash of set up. Anyway, we do not know what would have happened in the final three four five kilometers of Alp the West today to the finish because it was the hard one. Because Caripass was going.

Yeah. Like you saw him out of these corners. I mean, he this guy was not just holding on. He was accelerating. Yeah.

So that might have been an amendment. Maybe he. He knew also. He also knows that he's a better descendor than Seth Cuce. Um, maybe that was the plan.

But. That's good.

I think I feel like he kept riding a riding away from him and holding that gap like 12 15 seconds.

It would have been close. But I think my money would have been on set to make it. Mm. Just for goth truck as great as he is set the record on Alp to as probably the best climber Formants we've ever seen.

He's not out there doing what Caripass is doing. He's respecting every climb. Like attacking every climb. To me, that is a worthy winner. Yeah.

Even if he might not be the fastest climber. Yeah. Are you Bradley, are you you're sitting there looking? I mean, how are you? How are you?

Are you a fan of, am I, am I being mean or? I mean you have different perspective on it. Um, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

But I, you know, the king of the mountains is always.

It has had years where it's not had a worthy winner. Yeah. You know, I'm thinking of like Jimmy, you know. A few years ago, there was a guy called one with a big telecom. We want it.

Not vocabulary. The other one. Um, you know, it's a funny one. It really is. But I mean, I come from an age where when I was watching it as a kid and cloudy,

I could put you would be winning it and, you know, rob it Miller and people like that. And back then, you know, the best climb attended to with it. Well, I, yeah, keep put you was a great climber. Miguel Enderine was a better climber. More fish.

Yeah. Yeah. When it, if they, if they had to climb and said that's it, your life depends on the top of the mountain. The Inderines getting their first.

I mean, Inderine. I would agree with that. He's a better climber. Yeah. I mean, it is a sort of France.

Stage winds are massively important for teams. Jersey's and finally the Paris. Very important for teams.

So I think I think the, even though it's maybe not, he's not a better climber than

Poguchar.

It's still a very incredible wind to think that Jersey deserves.

No. I'm going to be with you on that one. All right, caller number two. Hey, this is Jimmy Casper here. I'm going to be here from 6,000 years old.

No, I'm just kidding.

If you gave it from Montreal, I was just wondering, the world's from the indu...

who's coming here. What are you, pigs? That's it, guys. Love the show. Thank you, guys.

David, I'll be there. I'll be there for the whole week for the world's. What do you, everybody said? I'll be there too. Really?

Yeah. This is Jimmy Casper calling. I don't know. That's not Jimmy. [LAUGHTER]

What? Well, I'll pick was her. Yeah, you picked for worlds.

That's what this tailor made for a poker show.

Yeah.

My third year in a bit, third year in a row.

I kind of agree with George. But Ilhan claims that it's not. He thinks that it's going to be an open race. Hmm. I feel like they'll pick out your good turn.

The historic Champs-Lisae finish into a selected race. If he really wanted to. Yeah. Agreed. I do think it's probably going to be pick out your three years in a row.

The last person to do that was. Do you guys remember? Oscar Fren. No. Don't suck in.

Yeah. Yeah. Peter's a gun. Oh, that was. So he could win the next year.

Because it said it's home course in the UAE. Yeah, but it's all dead flat next year. I don't think they're probably going to add some clowns. Now they're talking about doing it. But then I changed their mind.

They're going to build the clowns. They should.

They should just build the clowns.

Now in the, the, who the Rotty track. Like you can do like a full on one K 1500 meter climb up the sand dunes. With like switchbacks and stuff. It's wild. Come on.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The time trial in UAE.

Well, I don't, yeah. I would pick poker chart. However, the race that I am.

The most interested in is the U23 time trial.

Yeah. Our man Ben Wiggins. Yep. He'd be there. He's definitely going to be there.

And I'm, I am not set another way. I'm only watching one race of the World Championships. And it's been Wiggins. You're not going to watch. You're not going to watch so.

Oh. I'm going to. I'm going to watch two races. You're going to watch. What is that?

Is it categorized as junior 19. Yeah. So you're 19. I'm going to watch the U19 road race. There's the end time trial.

So yeah. So I'm going to watch it. Okay. Then that's shit. That's true.

Is he in the, is Ben in the road race too? Yep. Okay. So I'm watching four races. The U19 time trial and road race.

And the U23 time trial and road race. Basta. That's not for me. I'm going to be there with so much pioneer pastures for Ben. Yeah.

It's a finish line. Yeah. So it's a team winner. Journalist. Yeah.

Who are you there with journalism? Journal journalist. Well, I don't, maybe we should talk about this. Yeah. Hopefully with we do if they don't cancel after watching that.

What? What did we say? Well, I, I just don't want. I don't want to draw attention to any submissions of cycling new. Presculents.

Yeah. And how? I just want to be going. Yeah. Put it across the table and get stamped.

I'm good to go. I just think about something this morning. I was googling and I can't say it. I'm like I said. Okay.

Let's put the Googles. I'm flying. Just throw it up on the thing. I'll say it offline and see if it's safe. If you guys think I should talk about tomorrow.

Because tomorrow we are going to have. I think and I think we should have. I just are. Our, our reflections on this tour. Whether it be the course, whether it be the writers, whether the stories.

The, the controversies, whatever. I think that's good idea. So I'll run run this by I'll let you guys edit my. Reflections of twenty twenty six. Today's of intram trivia.

Of course yesterday's question. And twenty crosses cold a glibriet which earns what distinction in the twenty twenty six race.

The answer is it is the highest point of the entire tour at two thousand.

Six hundred and forty two meters. Today's question, which of course you had on over to venthamracing.com slash the move to enter your answer. You get five, if you win or you get picked or whatever. You get five thousand dollars credit towards the ventham bike of your choice. Today's question.

The iconic optoech climb is defined by. Bradley, we need you doing these questions. Well, I did say that. We can go. Okay.

What happened? Spencer. The iconic optoech climb is like giving me for people who haven't got it right. Yeah, we want people to win. The iconic optoech climb is defined by how many numbered hairpin bends.

And if you're watching earlier in the show, you have your answer head on over to venthamracing.com slash the move. Anything else? Well, somebody did comment on them.

Somebody did comment on, I think, on one of the socials.

They said, "There's one of the pictures." Well, I later said, you know, Sir Bradley looks bored. And I almost replied, "Well, because he is." Okay. There's just been some times that it's just been boring.

We've talked about that. We've talked about it on the show. It's not.

I thought it was gonna find out.

Well, I've talked about some more ADHD.

You know, I don't know. When it gets bored. I'm back now. I'm back in this room. What are we doing?

I'll see you tomorrow.

We will see you guys tomorrow.

Have a great day.

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