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Equal to the all-time record for tour wins. He joined this elite club of five, well guess what, he doesn't believe that.

“He doesn't believe that at all. He knows what the record is. So he's not going to sit out a year. Yeah, and by the way, too, I hope he does. I hope he does that.”

Like, it doesn't matter. I'm an athlete. Athletes play the game, maybe they break a record, maybe they set a record. Those are all meant to be broken. Taday Poguchar knows what the record is. So he ain't sitting one out. Well, and I hope he does it. Welcome back to the move podcast. By the way, we got kind of a different set up this year. So I can't totally hear the lead in, but the team just told me we're still running the harmonica jingle for those who don't know that's my good friend, Mickey Raphael, the greatest ever

harmonica player has toured with Willie Nelson for 50 years and when he's not with Willie, he's out on the road with Chris Stapleton. And he's big fan of the show and one, you know, years ago, he said, let me send you something. Of course that. That's very cool. Yeah. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins. We did not get the memo. We dressed alike today. That is quite the t-shirt. I tried to not say much. George, Mr. George and Kappy. Yes, sir. Had some issues at the house this morning. We got a lot of issues at the house this morning.

It was, we might get into that in a second. That was very gross. And the professor, Spencer Martin.

And of course, not here, but here. Oh, I'll end what we do today. Stage nine from Malmog to Ucell, from Malmog to Ucell. Alain must be so happy. The French are looking good in the world cup. I'll see if he, see if he, how we manages the next week. Look, we're going to say Matthew Vanderpool, doing Matthew Vanderpool things. Very much so. Yeah. I felt like I felt like in it's been

well-publicized. There's been some clips out there. He asked for fills and frustrated. The team frustrated. You would have to think Vanderpool frustrated doing these lead outs. Anyway, except says, you know, I guys, I got this. Yeah. I mean, he, um, is classic. Matthew Armstrong's stage was a hot. It was on all day. The peloton didn't really let the break get very far. We were questioning whether you ate why you ate what riding at one stage. Now,

you know, it was going to be another peloton attack in the final, but it actually made for an exciting final. Because we weren't sure whether we were going to call or not. But Matthew Vanderpool and he took the race on. He was constantly riding the break. And then he made that final little split on that final little climb. Road, the rest of the guys off the wheel, that they can eventually came back to him. And he was still pushing into that headwind in that final 10, 15k. And then

lead the sprint. I'll let it out. Dominant. Yeah. Dominant. I'll tell you two things. One, I don't

“think he woke up this morning. Thinking today is my day. I think he probably had this stage”

year back. You were marked knowing how good it was in the last year. Yeah. It was a rough morning. How good of a rider he is. Super stage, super well suited to him. But man, the other thing is like,

what a hard, hard day. I mean, the breakway never got more than a minute and a half. I got U.A.

pulling behind the peloton. It's only 30 riders. The breakaway is some of the best breakaway riders in the world. And it's a super exciting racing. Like we mentioned in the beginning of this podcast, we were hoping for these breakaways to start making it like we saw on a zero where it was like really hard to predict what was going to happen hanging in there between 50 seconds, 40 to 1 minute, the last 50 kilometers. That's cycling. That's super exciting racing. What a great

day to watch. Worth noting the stage was, of course, they've just been since the start. It's been very, very hot. The entire summer has been hot all over the continent. The stage was shortened by 30 kilometers. And according to the commentators, this was the hottest stage of the tour

“of France in the last 20 years. And it's just, you know, if you all remember,”

a few days ago was the third hottest day in the history. It's just bacon. They cannot there. And you won't know when we'll remember it, but the start of the stage was so hard. Like I can't imagine getting in that breakaway. It was just lined out like even Vanderpool, you know, little track controlled it through the first sprint point, Matt's pedaging, it's the sprint. Vanderpool attacked boom, right after that sprint point. And then basically had to keep attacking for the

next 60 K to get away. And then they never really got a big gap. So they got to keep going. Like

what a brutal brutal day. Yeah, that was essentially a selection. Like yeah, it was, did you see guys wanted to stay together? The breakaway guys just wrote everybody off their wheel. It wasn't like a tactical breakaway. It was just like seeing a douche's right away, selective breakaway.

accelerated and sort of thinned out that group. Of course, in that group was Tom Pitcock who made

it with him through that selection and and Quinn Simmons. I think a couple of things stand out

“there. One Quinn is always there. Like this guy, you have to give him a lot of credit. He always”

tries. He wants to be in the action. He wants to represent. If I were whispering in his ear, I would say this. Do less. Just work less. You, you have the legs, you have the power. You have obviously the, the drive, the motivation, the eagerness. But don't show everybody. And he's a damn good bike rider. He's very, very strong. Just, you dial it back a notch or two and wait. Right? And because it doesn't help, it doesn't help him for Vanderpool to take advantage of that.

Secondly, Pitcock has this mechanical. This one really blew me away. I just don't understand this.

It has a mechanical. We just assume he's going to either obviously get dropped from that group of

four. And either have to get a bike change or something. He's, it was kind of wild to see him kind of banging on the derailleur with his foot. Nonetheless, he got it working or he figured out that, and on these particular shifters, we figured out they ragged SRAM. Yeah. That you can shift down on the brake, but you can also, there's a little thumb button up on the hood that you can shift with. So he figured thumb button on the hood and there's a little blips on the, on the drops as well.

So, I don't know exactly where the drops were not working out of this. Yeah, but this, you go to the sprint. Well, you're thinking drops on the shifters. There's blips on there. It doesn't work either,

“because then in the sprint, he said, I started, I started my sprint on the drops. And I remember that I could”

only shift on the hoods, which I don't. I don't understand that. Like if my, if my shit goes bad, and I say the only place I can shift is, I mean, they're, I'm only thinking about one thing. Right, this is the only, I have that, that's my only priority. But it costs them. Right, it's, you know, obviously tough to come around, Matthew Vanderpool, just leaves it out from the front, the last kilometer. Clearly the best guy. Yeah. Same, just as I say. By the way, safe to say,

our aid sleep move there. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, should we talk about the moves? Yeah, I feel like I hate it when we all agree. I think today would be a hard one to say. This is a hard one.

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night, head on over to aidsleep.com/themove. Through today, maybe they'll, uh, maybe they'll push that little deeper into the tour July 12. 500 dollars off, aid sleep.com/themove. So, Bradley, my move of the day? Yeah, looped lap. No, I'm going to go with that. I mean, it has to be much of Vanderpool. Yeah. I mean, he, it was classic, much of Vanderpool. The Vanderpool we saw last year, the Vanderpool we used to seeing. And it was, um,

it was great to say about the head of the tour again today. Yeah, I agree. He's got to be very in a pool. I mean, what composer the whole day? Like we said, um, what about a minute gap, which is nothing, uh, when you have a team like UAE and then in Eos Jason and then legal track Jason, but held this composer attacked on that final climb, made the group smaller and just wrote with a ton of confidence. Like he just sat at the front with a kid to go just going,

somebody wanted to try to come around me or we're going to wait till I start sprinting. Yeah, uphill finish to slight, slight uphill finish. Yeah. Yeah. We said yesterday it was the last kilometer was 3% that was an average because you saw after the K banner that there was actually a little down. So, uh, yeah, I don't under control. I'm not going to actually work to his benefit that say that breakway had stayed together with the all seven guys and they had a

a bigger lead like seven, like whatever, three four minutes. Then you would have seen that breakway started attacking Vanderpool because they knew he was the fast guy that they were able to The fact that it was only 40 seconds there, I'll have to fight till the very end, which played great into the end of Paul's hand. Because he had the last match. I think what was interesting today was witnessing any offs riding. I'm wondering why they were riding there and seeing

gander up there at the finish. Yeah, that's it and obviously perfect finish. Yeah, perfect finish. But also, you know, he struggled on these days last week, these kind of hellier days. So for him to be there. But he would have said, I mean, he would have known that he that he was having a good day to have them ride. I mean, they they know the finishes. He can he can feel how he's feeling on the race and say, this is a good finish for me. I feel great today. Yeah, and then they are a team

that they can have an impact on this race. There's a big conversation during this year, I went into the league of like, when are we going to see the next form of Ghana? Like, okay, you got the time trials figured out, like, now let's enter our well-open art era. And this is kind of like, well, this shows that like, he could have won the stage today, had it come down to a bunch of friends. Yeah, of course. He won a semi-classic this year as well, didn't he? Yeah, that's pretty

well-finished. Yep. Yeah. This is only, did you guys know Vanderpool's third career tour at

“win? And it says he won one last year before that, he had won one since 2021. I remember that.”

He's just a big deal to get out of here. I feel it feels like it's such as you how dominant he is you're at. I mean, yeah, I would have thought it's more like shocking shocking. You know what, is there anything we can else we guess about today? Let's talk about green. Let's talk about, yes, let's talk about the green jersey. I just have that pulled up Matt's Patterson. You mentioned that the Ghana ended up winning the, I guess, what was left of the bunch, Brent, right behind

Matt's Patterson. Binyan Germaid moves up into second, but Patterson gets more points. He's got 268 points to Binyan Germaid 223, merely R213 still in anybody's race. Yeah, but we're going to start seeing little track take a much advantage as they can in these hard stages. I mean, if the guy like Matt's Patterson is making it with a group of 30 GC riders, he's clearly climbing a lot better than the spinners and we're going to, we're going to see them starting to plan their race tactics

“around that very fact, I think. And I get realistically how many sprint stages are left. Let's say”

two, okay, if we don't count Paris, so let's say Merleer gets, you know, let's say he outscores Patterson by a hundred or fifty in each of them gets a hundred, but still might not be enough, because Patterson's going to every day like this, he's going to be out there. Yeah, and I don't, I talk to like that like a higher up at a team and he's like, oh yeah, Merleer's not going to get dropped on stage 21, but I don't agree with that. I based on what we saw last year, right? Yeah.

Is the, is the time, time trial to come, which, of course, is what next, the day after the next rest day, is, what does that profile there? Because we forgot like, Ghana. Yeah, it's a Ghana time trial.

Yeah, remember first. She's coming around. I mean, there is or RIMCO. A climb? Well, it's a 10

K-long climb at 4% in the time trial. I would do it. I think that's made for RIMCO. But yeah, I mean, well, now I'm excited for that time trial because RIMCO will have, a lot of energy on the mountain days, before we're gone, that will have not. So, of course, you've got to spend energy on that. Yeah, but Ghana, what he did today, he's going to be spending a lot of energy trying to make the breakways in the next couple of races stages. Let's talk about Pioneer Pastors. The move is brought

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given the move listeners a free eight-count sample pack with any purchase go to drink. L M N T dot com slash the move that's drink. L M N T dot com slash the move. Awesome. Professor, what stands out? You know one one thing and you know what? I felt like I know you have a maybe a bit different view on this because I was looking in the course they keep showing del Toro in the cool down area because he's in that area because he

has the white jersey. We're, you know when we're talking about Poguchar, we're trying to forget

“it's that time of his career and sort of watching him. And how many years is he going to do this?”

And I'm watching Del Toro Del Toro. Sorry, is, is the real deal. He's on this team through 2029. That's a long time from now. Is that, are we, I guess the question is and I do have a view on this? Is he wasting years or wasting at least a year? Well, I think there's a simple way to answer the question. Can he beat Tadipoguchar right now? All right now. He's not

until the answer is yes, he's not wasting because Poguchar's not going to go away if he leaves the

team. I agree. He's still exists. I agree and he's getting all the experience learning from Poguchar. Learning from the team that is one last, I don't know how many Toro frances. Also, potentially getting help from Poguchar to get on the second place in the Toro france. Yeah, I think he's in ideal because not a bad teammate to have. Yeah, not at all, but, but as the sport trends younger and younger,

“he's 22 years old. So you, I think if you're 22, the guys, I don't know how what percentage”

he gets better year over year. It doesn't have to get much better to actually be better probably in the future. One or two years, it could become an issue, but I have a view that GC guys tend to leave their teams to, like they run away from this, you know, log jam at the top. Like, doesn't work out that well that often. No, are you soon? Yeah, yeah. I mean, sometimes just sticking around is the move. I mean, and who knows what happens? Like, let's say

Dol Toro stays at UA, two years from now. I'm not wishing ill on the man. But let's just say, Ted, if we got your has a health issue, you know, except for you, Lance, who has a clean run at seven tours? Like, nobody. But I can also see it's fine. My Poguchar says, I'm not doing the tour this year. Yeah. I could see that too. The welder the year. I don't tell Tara, you can do the take. I could see that. I mean, you're absolutely wrong. No, you're 100%

“wrong about that because guess what? As it stands today, I mean, I think we all would put our”

hand in a fire and the knowing the Tate Poguchar is going to win. I had to get way, way, way, way ahead of ourselves. But we know he's going to win this tour. And not to bring in a source. Well, I'm not, let me just just time. This is very time. I got some good stuff. So he's going to, he's going to win his fifth tour. And we're going to listen us included. We're going to listen at the finish the Tate Poguchar equaled the all-time record for tour wins. He joined this elite club of five.

Well, guess what? He doesn't believe that. He doesn't believe that at all. He knows what the record is. So he's not going to sit out of here. Yeah. And by the way, too, I hope he does. I hope he does that. Like it doesn't matter. I'm an athlete. Athletes play the game. Maybe they break a record. Maybe they set a record. Those are all meant to be broken. That ain't Poguchar knows what the record is. So he ain't sitting one out. Well, and I hope he does it. Lance, if you were Del Toro,

would you leave in where would you go? Well, I'm not involved enough in the sport to know who has the infrastructure, who has the support, who has the best trainer. It has the whole package. I agree with you. I know where to go. These guys often, and we had it in our team. You had that, you know, Tyler Hamilton thought he was going to go when it's or it leaves. Floyd thought he was going to want it, et cetera. You know, guys leave, right? And most guys stay. But I don't know where he

would go. And a lot of times, guys, you brought it to point of view. So the package has to be

perfect. And look, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Get to that other team.

Yeah, they might pay you a truckload of paper. The paper is the greener though. The paper is the

maintenance. All right. So I don't know. I'm just talking in terms of the engine and what I see,

“we don't get a waste of time. You guys already got me riled up. Yeah. Okay. Who brought this up anyways?”

Well, I was going to ask Bradley in similar situation. 2014 probably your best year ever. You had to set out to an aback choice. Yeah. Took from me instead of you. Tell us what that felt like. And yeah, I mean, but to be honest, I would have that year all I wanted to do was go to the Tour de France to resolve the situation with Chris and ride for him. I would have loved the opportunity to go back to the tour and ride in the service of through me as payback for 2012 and the

fallout, et cetera, et cetera. And not have the pressure. And I would have loved to have done that. No. I realize now we just, I see got me got me riled up. We'll come back to this too, but we're going to take a quick two minute and 32 second commercial break. And we are back. Let's, uh, of course, we've got a rest day tomorrow. I don't know what you guys are up to. You know,

and we never know what the guys are up to and the tour, but they better be up to something.

Because they're coming back and I'm assuming Spencer that the heat continues. The, yeah, they're in the next week. The heat does continue to stage 10. I did peek ahead maybe next weekend.

“I think a week from now we could see a little break. And then it's going to be hot. Nice.”

You send trial. Well, after the rest day, which of course is so important for the pelthon, how they manage that, uh, look at the stage they get to come back to. Now, you know, and, and for folks, and you can look at this. If you look at the route on a map, I mean, this is, and this is the heart of the massive central heat is high, roads are very slow. This, you know, while there's nothing, you know, no famous climbs, nothing, we would, you know,

ever know about 4,000 meters, 4,000 meters of total per 13,000 feet. This is right out of

the, this, this, this, with that today was hard. I guess the world too were even short in this one, but hard to imagine, 166k. This is a very tough day to get thrown back in the tour. Rest day is played tricks with you. Yeah. This is like, like, Puy Marie. That's a hard climb, you know, it's seven and seven and a half k long at over 6%. I think we've done that when it sounds really familiar. I think you have done that. Your horn would know. But I could do we think this

is GC, you would look at this and say break away. But today was so weird with the way the peloton road, is this a GC day? Well, you can look at the, look at the, the finish climb. It's not flat to the finish, it's the, the, the finish is difficult. Then we pull that up there. Look at that. There's the last six kilometer. So you have a three kilometer climb, but almost 6% bomb down. And then I fairly tough finish that, that, that's, that's, that's that's steep. If you look at the, if you do the percentages,

because that's about 500 meters to go 1192, 12. Yeah, that's five six percent up to the finish. Yeah, we're starting to get to the half, the latter half of the Tour de France were still most of the teams of not one stages and they're going to be super aggressive. It's not a hard climb at the start. It's in generally flat. So I think it's going to take a long time for that break way to go. It's not going to be like today where the strongest breakaway riders in the race

kind of road away from everybody. It's going to be more of like a little bit of tactics, a little bit of luck. And then once they get to the climbs, then those strong guys will probably try to make some move as well. And if you're like, if you're the Lini Martinez, he's in eighth place for, for 21 back. And you're looking at Rimcoev and a pole, one of you, so Paul success, foreign lipwoods, all those guys are better time trails than you. They're probably all better outpink climbers

“than you. Like you got to make something happen. Eventually, if you want to move up the GC rankings,”

like that's, I don't know if necessarily Pagotra is going to say, I want to make this a GC day, but I would wonder about some of these guys hanging around the top 10. And they need to make time up on someone like Rimco before the town trail. Unless their goal coming into the tour was to finish top 10. Oh, I did that. I mean, there's teams that come in and say, if we can win a stage and put a rider in the top 10, this is an A+ tour for us. That's the danger with the rest of this

racist people who are happy with it all. And they know, they stop consolidating. Well, we saw that today. We're currently in a net company in here, so it's Jason to keep her now. I think we saw the finish. We realized they were chasing for Ghana. Well, they said it on the radio. They said the director started on the radio, didn't you know? I thought we saw that. Like GC's up the road. There's some GC guys up the road and we're playing the stage. That's what he said on the radio.

Where were the director was? What does that mean they're playing the stage? Well, try to get them back so we can go for the stage. But also, there's some dangerous guys up the road. A two for two for. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but if you're one of you so, and you came over on a nine

he's one of the points that you asked about Lenin Martinez. Not one of you, so. But just, I mean, Lenin Martinez is a big, that's a big name in France. Like, I don't know. Me, maybe eight this great for him. But yeah, you're a, I mean, yeah, he's in fifth place, but he's still

essentially in second. Like, it's such a tight race right there. The difference is not that big for

“podium spot. So I think he's happy that he's not way behind that position. Like, he's where he is,”

where he needs to be nine stages into the sort of France. Well, he's going to jump a spot if, if, uh, a, a, a, a, a Bradley's prediction of, uh, y'all in a Spanish in the tour. What a, it was an opinion, you know, well, you know, yeah, you got some people giving you, you know, I agree with him. Who cares? I don't care. No, I know he's interesting. I know you don't care. Hey, um, speaking about the way. What a month in world sport, right? We, we, we spend most of these days talking

about the tour to France. Think about the month, right? This month, we're enjoying. Obviously, the world cup going on, wimpled in final this weekend, had the big UFC fight, uh, or what was supposed to be a big UFC fight last night. What a fight. That was, yeah. I want to, I want to, I want to

say that for the end. First, congratulations to England, right? Um, in the quarter, or sorry,

“the semi finals, uh, what a performance. I, I thought, I, I like to kind of, is, is, often as I can,”

I like to bring the conversation back to music. I don't know if you guys, the first of all, the player stayed on the field forever. Yeah. And they went back to, to show the, the players on the field and they were playing Wonderwall by Oasis, the entire stadium and the players, every single player singing word for word like the Gallagher Brothers could have died and gone to heaven. It was, I had chills. Now, full disclosure, I'm a massive Oasis fan. I saw them twice on the last,

uh, on the comeback tour. I saw them in Chicago and I saw them in London. Um, but that was special. Very, very special. Gallagher Boys, yeah. And then they play, hey, Jude, why the people said, not that, but Wonderwall was, but did a lot more for that crowd. They did play Jude, but the Wonderwall piece was, was chilling. Yeah. So, Gregory, uh, when we'll then find out, I don't even know who's in that Georgia. You're still watching the woke up, because you went once USA lost and once,

yeah, really, I haven't reluctantly. I, listen, under, uh, they don't have a comment box. So, I cannot submit my comments and concerns, but uh, like we do, because we have the voicemail number, which you can all call, but um, just real quick. We got to talk about the UFC fight. We all, you know, the hype between Connor McGregor and Max Holloway, the Hawaiian. Wow. This was great. One of the craziest, one of the craziest, I don't watch a lot of fights or you have

“these stuff. I mean, I'm curious, within the Gregor coming back, I think he's, I mean, he's a,”

obviously, huge personality, but what a strange fight. Free fight. They would tell when it is probably the best comeback in any combat. Yeah, obviously. Yeah. So, when in the boot, told me, 60% of the money was

on my Gregor. Yeah, Drake put in a million, Drake lost a million. I bet on Max Holloway. It's like,

that's right. Yeah, right before the, they rang the bell, uh, a dude threw up 900 grand on Pauli Market on Holloway, uh, to win 1.2. Well, he didn't have to wait long to make 1.2 million and about 45 seconds. Yeah. I don't know why anybody was taking that bet on. No, I don't know. It was no way. Especially if you have the advantage of seeing him, he looked off. He looked like he adhering the headlides. His guys should not look like he's adhering the headlides. Max Holloway,

stay on their Hawaiian. Like, what's up? Let's go. You know what they call Vegas? The 9th Island. There's so many Hawaiians there. I don't know. Yeah, that's like the dream. If you grow up in Hawaii, you want to move to Vegas. I don't know. He might have said that. Holloway might have said that in his post, uh, post-fight interview. He said something about the 9th Island. I was like, what the fuck is this talk about Vegas? That is cool. Um, anyways, uh,

let's talk about, uh, let's take some voicemails. Of course, our call in number, George's direct line. My ad direct ask in line. Yeah, directed. That stays the same when you move out. You still don't get to pick up. Then the lie 277, the code's the way. 9707182736. Hey guys, this is the call from Houston. Just wanted to get your thoughts on the likelihood that yes, for Philipson, we'll drop out of the race this year and not finish the tour, just deciding that it's too tough to climb over the mountains for to go home without a win.

Prattay. Yeah, I think that he will come as good. It's a good question. Yeah, I think,

then this is a sure way of getting in shape coming out of it for the season. The remains for him to pick up some victories for the team. Yeah, I mean, let's not forget tomorrow's the rest day and this guy is the most winning in Tour de France, what rider and the last how many years Spencer? Four four years. Four years the most winning in stage. Most days wins of any

Tour de France rider. Obviously could not have a great first week, but rest day who knows he can

bounce back. Now they have the motivation of having a win less pressure. All things can happen halfway in the Tour de France, especially with the rider like that. I can I see him making it all the way. But Steve brings up a good point of these stages that are stacked towards the second half of maybe, you know, plays into Spencer's good point. If yesterday they want to get some of these events done. Yeah. So the Tour can really shine. These are stages that do not suit him. And

are going to be very hard for him to get through. And do you in the old, you know, old days, three years ago, you were thought would just hang in there and cap it all off and try to win on the Champs-Lis-A. Probably not that realistic. It's the negative thing about the new

better Champs-Lis-A finish. I think because it's an astute question because you first hear

you think, "No, why would he leave?" There's really nothing for him after the second rest day. So can you imagine being on that second rest day thinking, "What am I doing here?" It's not even a sprint stage. I think it would be there. They don't think like that.

“What do you have to do? Something I do? Well, I think the vault would be”

go to the vault and win a bunch of stages. But it is tough if you're a sprinter and there's no sprint stages left in a grand tour after a rest day. I mean, maybe they think we could make Paris a sprint stage. I don't know. You don't have to think that. All right, number two. Hey, ladies, Colin's from outside of Boston. With everything going around the U.S. and the national team, what it takes to build a strong U.S. and then soccer team,

what's it going to take for you sports to build a strong U.S. and then cycling presence? Thanks for tuning in on the tour since '25. Look, I mean, you directed that question towards me and I have a lot of views on this. We talked about it a lot in years past. George, I mean, George is sitting in this in the perfect seat to talk about this as well. Obviously with the new team modern adventure,

Billings thing out. Year one already getting great results. So you probably have a lot of better views than I do. I don't know, and in it actually, now that I sit here and think about I remember when when Sky was announced and launched, I thought, I don't know. We're going to build this team. We've got a great sponsor. We're going to pull people from the track program. We're going to build an all British mostly British team. And we're going to augment it with some experience,

“guys. I don't know. Well, guess what? It worked. I think you could do that here. And whether it's”

the George's team or, I mean, you see people and I have actually been critical for a lot of reasons,

but I've been critical of trek in the past. Why are you throwing money at this? Like you're starting to see this American talent come along and there's enough to start putting them in that group, just like Sky did and say, OK, yeah, we're going to still go pull, you know, five, six, season, big engine, euros to help help the team and be sort of a capy tensed yellow to whatever. That's doable. They never did that, right? They just had this, it was like this Hodgepodge and

consistent team had some results, but not nothing that I felt like they were throwing good money after bad to be honest. So, but look, the good news is, is we have talent. Right, this was if you think back to 20 years ago, you're like, you're like, Coleman, the Olympic training center and like, yeah, you now have George, you know, you chime in here. I mean, you know that we have the talent,

“you know that, but now, but to your point, Colin, as you have to get them, if you have talent,”

and they're on seven different teams, that isn't what Sky did. Sky said, no, you all come here, and we're just going to throw money at this thing, we're going to throw structure at this thing, and we're going to see, and it worked. Like, you can do that here, but just not being done thus far. Yeah, no. And I'm part of one of the goals of the team is not only just to make it to the Tour de France in five years, but also just to help reinvigorate the sport here in the United States,

make it more approachable. I mean, a lot of the guys that we have on our team and our roster now, we're doing Criterium's Lacer, Tour de Riland, and also in Fast forward one year, they're doing Paris Rebe, the Walter Catalonia. So all these young kids that are doing these Criterium's like, wait, I just raised with this guy last year. Like, they're so for me to get there, and we want to be like the pathway to get help these guys to get there. Also, secondly, like, if we put together

the all of our best Americans who were scattered around the world tour right now on one team,

under the same umbrella, like you guys did with Sky. So we got to have goals, and we're trying

as hard as the cannon, we were way further advanced than I could have ever imagined for our first

year racing. Bradley, when you go back to these sort of ground zero of team sky, what was it, like if you look back on it now, was it just the professionalism, the budget, the funding, the structure, or was it just this six Sigma 360 training, you know, and, you know, well, I mean, they, they browse for single handedly, reinvigorated GP track cycling. So we went to Sydney Olympics, want to hand full of medals, went to Athens, want to hand full of medals.

“And obviously the next level for Dave then was to do it on the road. And why can't we do it on the road?”

With the talent pool that we have, with the Academy riders coming up, which at that time was Grand Thomas, Mark Cavendish Ian Stanard, you know, a whole host of talent. And so he's thought process was, let's do it on the road. Let's get a big sponsor. Let's let's start channeling our British Academy and our track endurance riders, Steve Cummings, people like that, into a road team, which will facilitate the track program, because we'll have the road race and we need to

facilitate what we need to do for the track. And we've got control of the full thing, rather than putting riders out in teams and having to negotiate with those teams, whether we can get our riders back for Olympic selections, etc. So it was a master plan that came together. Obviously, once we achieved the goal of winning the Tour de France with a pool of British riders, the goals of the team changed then, because Dave got a taste of winning that he wanted to then dominate the sport and win the

“year and of well-trying the same year as the Tour de France. And we didn't have enough British riders”

to do that across the board. So he starts sourcing out talent from international stars, the carapascists of this world, Spanish riders, etc. So the team slowly moved away from the British team as we got more successful. And now, I wouldn't say it's unrecognizable as a British team. There is still a core of an element that is British, but we had a fan base in the UK back in 12. But it got the country behind us, much like the football team has done here. There was

very special. Well, you know, if you compare and contrast those two versions, the one that you

started with and the one today, the first version that you were part of, I was curious. This version,

I have no curiosity. So it is a different version. And that's not a criticism, but I just remember sort of being a spectator going, what is going on here? I'm not sure this will work, but this could work. We will see. And it worked. That should be the inspiration. I mean, to your point you said it. Master plan. It was also a master plan. A marriage of timing as well with sky. You wanted to improve the public image. I also made a big media company that could put the

promotion behind it. Yeah. And you don't have to, they're just the Murdoch said this is how it's going

“to be. And that's how it was. I do worry, though, like what's the big ingredient that you described,”

the track, because the track pulls all these kids, but the only thing I worry about the modern crop of Americans we have is it's son of professionals or people wealthy enough to live in grow up in Europe. Yeah. And that's how you develop. Whereas like the track, you guys cut like Mark Cavendish, Garrett Thomas, yourself, all these people in this one place. But we will not just in one place. We're a Manchester. And very cycling is based in Manchester. Everyone lived around

Manchester. So sky's HQ was in Manchester the team. And then they got a service course of Belgium as well. And everything was in place to put a road team on the road. Whereas, you know, you're starting from scratch in the US. And the track is the best way to develop young riders that maybe don't know about all the ways. I think that that time it was and seemed to be. But now I think, you know, they were riders that didn't come through the track system. But we don't have any racing in the US.

That's a big problem. And we don't have it. We don't have this ingrained track culture. Yeah. Like we have tracks right around. And the Olympics could help that. I mean, we have to try to feel decent team in the Olympics. So hopefully the national team will start investing more money in that. But we'll see. What's with the Olympic questions? Good to have a question. The other big thing you need as well with a little money, which is going to have to put

ahead. I mean, and now from my seat, again, being curious back then and just being a spectator, I was, I wasn't concerned that there was a budget. I was like, oh, that's the thing. I mean,

you give George 40 million dollars a year. It'll make that happen. You know, that's my

mean. Well, George says George is actually. It's my number. It's because it's like, hashtag send George 40 million dollars a year. Is that what? Wow. If you had to win the tour, if that's say that happened and you had to win the tour with an American, let's be live with an American. Let's say North American, who would you sign? Well, I'd go after

That's what they did with Furman. Moving to Tucson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because Furman is a

“Canadian writer, right? Yeah. Well, yeah, we both. Yeah. Yeah. And the changes. Yeah. Yeah. So you can”

do that George. Yeah. Mike Shandry. They did the same with him. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah. It's time for the Ventrum trivia of the day. Answer the day's trivia question correctly. Get entered for a chance to win $5,000 credit towards the Ventrum bike of your choice. We will announce it here on the air to head on over to ventrumracing.com/themove.

Yesterday's question was in 1990, Greg Le Mans won his third tour to France, which

writer dropped him to win at loser to then on stage 16. Surveys says the great Miguel Enderite. Hmm. Enderite. Today's question. Paul Sashos, the 19-year-old French writer, could still wear yellow at this race. Who is the last French writer to wear the yellow jersey

in their tour debut? Say it again. Paul Sashos, the 19-year-old French writer, could still wear

“the yellow at this race. Who is the last French writer to wear the yellow jersey in their tour debut?”

Ventrumracing.com/themove. Good question. Good question everybody. Have a great rest day. Yeah. Well, it's just off to play golf. I'm going to go. Yeah, I am leaving. Going out the valley now, out in Holyoke, Colorado, taking my son and his buddy. Portable. That's the rest day. You guys are in two George yesterday's bent his afternoon at the pool on top of the W hotel here. I heard that was quite the scene. Yeah, I wasn't an England

person. No, it's great. It was just, I heard it was just, I must have been fortunate kids, but pretty much took over the pool and felt kind of bad for the rest day. I'm sure you don't slug that. Just pissing in the pool. Dad, where's the downstairs art? I must have been out of reception when you sent the text. It's weird. You could have my invite. George was like, hey, you think you'll come down? I was like, yeah, maybe Anna comes by like 10 minutes that you're really

going over there. That's a zero percent chance. Two days we'll go for, is that we'll go for France

“on Tuesday. Yeah. Me and Ben are going to Glenwood Springs for a haircut if you want to come with”

this one. That is a good decision. Got to get out of this area to get haircut. All right, everybody. We'll see, we won't see you tomorrow. We'll see you on on Tuesday. Have a good rest day. Thanks for tuning in.