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Johan Bruyneel and Spencer Martin go through the tactical nitty-gritty of the Tour de France's second stage, and exactly how UAE and Pogačar delivered Isaac del Toro to an incredible stage win. They d...

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Pochachart is an incredible shape.

and the ease with which he made this call blooded decision.

Even when you have your heart rated, it goes to 200. That's, that says a lot.

Everybody welcome back to the move-plus. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johann Bruniel. We are breaking down stage two of the Tour de France as well as printing at stage three and giving our outcomes picks on how that's going to go. We, Johann, we didn't do too well today because we both picked out a Pochachart, and he did not win because his teammate, Isaac De Toro, won with Pochachart. He decided, he decided, he decided, he didn't make any money today because

he was, you know, he could have won if he wanted to, but I can, I mean, I'm not too, I'm not too sad about it. I loved, I loved to develop enough to the stage. The outcome. Yeah, that was one of my favorite finishes I've seen in a long time, and I don't know if I've ever seen anything quite like that. Where Pochachart's coming into the Senate, Del Toro leads to the Final Corner after closing down a Mateo Schummers attack, and then, like, die bomb. He doesn't die bomb in the corner, though,

because he goes on the outside around Schummers, a rips into the Final Climb to lead out Pochachart, which forces Jonas vinegar to follow him, great move, and then Pochachart's behind vinegar. But Pochachart's sprinting, and you can see it's like, wait a second. I don't want to go past my teammate, and he's yelling at him, they keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, and there's G, Pochachart's are to free wheeling to avoid passing his teammate, and there's GC rivals behind him,

being dropped as this is happening. I've never seen anything like that. Del Toro and Pochachart are

embracing as they cross the finish line while RIMCO and Jonas are suffering to not lose any time, and then Mateo Schummers, it wasn't fifth and he did lose time, he lost three seconds. So those guys, so you have Schummers, Tobias, you Hollin, Hollin, you Hansen, Lennon Martinez,

Ball 6 Os, Tom Pitcock, why do you so losing three seconds in that group behind?

And Del Toro picks up the time bonuses for ten, but got to get six, and how the GC is, Jonas is first. But got your second, six seconds behind, cutting his gap by a half. RIMCO's third, 15 seconds behind, Del Toro is fourth, 16 seconds back. Are you so, is 19 seconds back in fifth?

But Johan, do you want to do your move at the day first? You don't need to go first.

Well, go first. Yeah, what's your takeaway of the day? I mean, of course it was, it was a very nervous state sponsor as usual, you know, first real stage of the two-to-fronts. Crazy, breakaway, three riders. We could kind of predict what was going to happen. I did not expect straight away, so early in the stage, to see Pinarello Q36.5 to control the breakaway. That was a bit of a surprise that meant that they had confidence in Tom Pitcock trying to win the stage.

You know, he was there with them. He was there with the favorites, but, you know, it'd be there, and then winning the stage, that's still a big difference. But anyways, what did you think of the development of the stage? Well, the development of the stage was super interesting, because they come in, it's nervous, as you say, so nervous to teams writing hard, but it's found out, which is, that means that things are really hard and really nervous.

They get into these circuits. The circuits were way harder than I thought they were going to be. I mean, this climb is brutal, 14% of the top. They do it three times. And I thought, Pagotcha was going to attack. He doesn't attack, but a brand-himing notes he controlling the front was incredibly impressive, but I got to say, my move of the day is Del Toro, closing down Schkemmosa, and then going through that final corner. That was unbelievable. He was flying to the corner.

And then a guy that was assigned to close down late moves, winning the stage,

and Lance said it when we were watching it. This guy's the second best writer in the world.

And it's for the disagreement at this point. I mean, I think, you know, I think it was not the plan.

In my opinion, the plan was that, well, first of all, you know, let's call back a little bit. You know, we saw UAE control straight away from from the moment they entered the circuits, brand-himing notes. Unbelievable today, insanely strong MVP for sure. So that was impressive. He basically brought it down to 40 writers, just him by himself. But I was, you know, I'm going to say surprised, but I was wondering when, like everybody else,

when Pogacha was going to attack the last time of the climb, and he decided not to. To me, it shows that, you know, he's racing intelligently. It's very early to attack, you know, big effort for probably not a lot of time. And he knew that he could probably win in the

Sprint anyway.

total to get over the climb, and then basically lead it out for Pogacha to win in the, you know, uphill

sprint. Don't you think that was their plan? Yeah, I do think that's exactly the plan. And it shows you how warped our minds are that we all thought he was going to attack it, but you're right. It's super hot. He's not going to get that much time. It's a long race. It doesn't make any sense to attack. What makes sense is having your team control at winning the sprint, collect some time, get a stage

win. That's great. I think, and I think they changed the plan with like 200 meters to go.

It's what it looked like to me because Pogacha was supposed to, you could just see him like, he's coming around and he's like, wait a second. Because yeah, vinegar guard goes from Del Toro's wheel to Pogacha's wheel. At that moment, Pogacha was like, hold on. I'm like, I'm going to go past Del Toro. Let's see what you do now, Jonas. And it was quite a stark difference between yesterday and today where yesterday, business on top of the world, yeah, teamwork. And then

today to see Jonas getting one, too, on a kind of a sprint stage. And in the finish, it shows you the, he's got a lot to tackle over the next three weeks. He's going to be both of these guys. That's that's my takeaway of the day, Spencer. You know, the demeanor, the difference in, you could see yesterday, super excited, Visma. Slightly disappointed, UAE. Today it was reversed, super super

excited excitement with, with UAE. And I think that this, the fact that this victory is given to

Del Toro by Pogacha is a huge investment in what's going to come now. Del Toro is going to be so grateful. I mean, he's going to kill himself for, for Pogacha. And then on the other hand, you saw Jonas warming down on the time trial bike and didn't look excited at all. I think he was, he was actually very, very empty because you had the total leading it out. Jonas trying to stay on the wheel, couldn't stay on the wheel. Pogacha sees that he's struggling, he passes him. And then he's still

loses the wheel. You know, it's, these little things, Spencer, that, you know, they're not, it doesn't mean a lot. Yesterday, for example, we saw Jonas being, I mean, on the last 800 meters, I think he was five seconds slower. He was two-tech and slower in the last three kilometers. We don't the last 800 meters. He was five seconds slower than Pogacha on that climb. Where, where we know that Pogacha had been pulling the team time trial and you were having been pulling. So that's one thing. You know,

these are the little things that they're looking for. And today, doesn't lose any time, but he cannot hold the wheel. There's, these are these little mental battles now. And it means nothing compared to an effort of 30, 40 minutes or a big alpine climb, right? That's, that's completely different.

But it shows that Pogacha is an incredible shape. Today, the ease with which he controlled that final

and the ease with which he made this call blooded decision. And whenever, when you have your heart rate that goes to 200, that says a lot. And you, you see the picture here behind me, the happiness, Pogacha, it's like he's winning the stage. If you cut out the total, and you see, it's like

Pogacha winning the stage. And he didn't win. He was so happy for his teammate. You know, so I think

today, UAE is definitely, you know, morale super high. Visma, you know, there's not really any reason to worry, but the excitement compared to yesterday is a lot less, a lot less. You know, it's going to sound ridiculous. But I, so I went home yesterday and rewatched the stage last night. And I didn't think I've quite appreciated Pagan's Oli took Jonas way up the climb. You know, Jonas get the wind far later than anybody any other GC guy on that climb. And it sounds ridiculous

because he won the stage. But he kind of like he was, he was tying up to me. Like he did not look good on the last couple. And it's a think he lost five seconds to Pogacha in that segment on the stage one. Like he just has not much fun. We watched the stage with George and George every day, every day is like, I think Jonas is going to outspread Tadah here. It's like, George, what are you seeing? I'm telling you that he's like, look at Tadah, Tadah sweating. He's not feeling it. But

he was like, I think Rimpgo is going to be Tadah. It's like, I don't think that's ever happened in a sprint. I can look back through the, through the stats. But yeah, it's, it really today, I felt like, wow, he, he does not, I mean, he looks, he looks to me like a man who did this year to

Tadah. And his, his feeling it in the first couple days of a grand tour, which I guess is, you know,

It's, it's all, you know, it's, it's, it's significant.

In the long term, and, you know, through the France three week stage rates, it's, it's a long effort. So, I'm not going to say, I'm where I'm not worried for Jonas. He's going to be on his, on his best level. But, but man, today, you a, you a, they were superior and outstanding on all levels. They did what they wanted to do. Again, Brandon, we know the unbelievable job. And this still had four riders there. They had, we've know T, they'll total, Adam Yates and Pogachar. Adam Yates, by the way,

also great effort on the last climb. It looked like it was setting up an attack for Pogachar. And I'm wondering if they have a plan to attack or if Pogachar just decided, you know what, maybe not worth it. You know, I'm, I'm, he to me, I mean, if you see how he finishes this stage, it looks like he, he, he was, he was not on the limit at all at any time. No, no. But, you know, then also Spencer,

you know, you have to calculate, and this is where I think Pogachar got better in compared to

earlier years where he was just going every day for bonuses this and that is that you need to weigh the difference between, okay, it takes a huge effort to attack. And then if you get away, the amount of risks you need to take in that downhill are crazy. Yeah. No, that, that, that, that downhill is 70, 80 kilometers per hour. So, maybe that's, you know, and he said, okay, I don't really need to, I can win in the sprint if I have to, if I don't win no big deal. I like this kind of thinking.

It's, yeah, I've always said, Spencer, I think, you know, the biggest enemy of Pogachar is his own

ambition and his sometimes not so calculated racing. That's what basically could make his downfall. But it looks that he's learning and that he's, you know, seeing this as a three-week effort, which I've always been a, a fan of, you know, you need to see this as a long effort over three weeks and not 21 one day races. Again, he's really progressed. It's been cool to watch him change as a writer and

just mature, get smarter every year. I think you're right. I think he looked at the downhill.

It also doesn't make any sense. There's eight summit finishes at this two of the fronts. He's going to have plenty of chances to put time into people. There's no reason to risk anything on stage two. Do you, Lance was saying on this show? He's like, well, you know, everybody's telling their writers, hey, you know, this was, this was a different type of stage. Don't worry about it. We still have the long climbs. You think there's realistically anyone in this race saying,

we're going to get tate on in the mountains. Or I, you hate to say it as everyone kind of

given up and racing for second. Well, I don't think they're racing. I'm, I'm sure that this

man, Jonas, they're not racing for second. They believe they can win the tour. I don't think there's anybody else in this race who is entitled to think that they can win the tour. I don't think so.

And in the case of Vingigart and, and Visma, I think they definitely see it as a three-week effort.

And, you know, hoping that Pogaccia will be over ambitious. You know, I think they will go back to what happened on that stage where Jonas beat Pogaccia in the sprint, wherever he attacked to early and then he kind of paid for his efforts and got caught by Jonas. So this is the only time we have seen Pogaccia are fading away a bit while he was attacking and then got caught by Jonas. I think that's probably what they're trying to envision.

You know, man against man when things are equal for the moment. I don't think there's any information that motivates being, you know, very confident that they can beat Pogaccia. What do you think? You're right about Jonas. So that's the only guy that should feel entitled to the even

think that he could beat him. You're right that they should have hope. Jonas is an amazing writer,

amazing. I think we talked about it over the last two months that probably have slept on how good he is. You rarely see writers of that caliber. The stage race was of that caliber. It was able to deliver at that level. But I will say just, and this is just a reaction for me. Maybe I'm wrong. But you bring that up. 2024 to a front stage of Levin, I believe, where he outsprins Tade. That feels like ancient history to me watching today. The level that how much

better Pogaccia was than you notice on that finish, it's shocking, actually. It just feels like since then there's been like more levels opened up between them. But we should get further into this race before we really come to a conclusion. For sure. This is a super violent effort that the end is very punchy. We all know that Pogaccia is better in these kind of things than Jonas.

To me, it looked today that Jonas was basically empty at the end of the stage.

it was typical like you're there, you're in great position. Nothing's going to happen and then

you want to stand up and you have to sit down because your legs are done. Whoever has been

racing a bike knows that feeling at some point and Jonas had that today. He was done. You stand up, you start going backwards. It's what it feels like. Did not have any acceleration, so yeah. I guess outside of those two was anything else to cut your eye today. Yes, a few things. I mean, I was observing the mechanical of Paul's success. Yeah, please talk to us about this. Which, which, you know, was an important moment like

right before they got into Barcelona. And there, I think you can see the lack of experience,

you know, of, it was, first of all, when I saw the mechanical and the way they handled it,

not very, not very good. And the fact that he came back and is in the front and it's with the best riders shows you how good of a rider Paul's success. Because anybody who has to do that kind of effort to get back into the Peloton and get back to the front because they were going 60k an hour at that moment. You know, all the teams are nervous. I'm nervous too. Yeah. So the fact that he made it to the front and then, you know, the first time of the climb, he was around 20 or 30 position,

but then he, he made it back. So, you know, you could also make a case that, okay, what if Paul's success didn't have that mechanical, would he have been in the mix there for the stage when maybe. We don't know. Maybe. But, you know, the way sexists himself make those decisions shows you the lack of experience because, you know, at the Tour de France man, you cannot make those mistakes. There is no room for error. It's so fast. You know, getting, I mean, I don't know if

it was his teammate who encouraged him to take his bike. Yesterday, there was six in the team temporarily. So their car must have not been very far behind. So the car, the car number six. So it's better to just take your own bike, you know? Yeah. I didn't understand that at all. Yeah. Unless you just cannot go any further on your bike. Yeah. I don't know what the problem was. But yeah. So he got on that, on a bike from Parapantra that's probably also something that they

have talked about. Was it Parapantra or was it somebody else was number 56? I don't remember that. Parapantra was Parapantra. Yeah. But it was a moment of panic and yeah, you cannot make those mistakes. Not at those speeds. Again, the way he made it back to the front and was in the

mix still was impressive, impressive, impressive for such a young rider. That's how strong he is. But

yeah, things like that are not allowed. It's also easy to say, I know, the car, you know, there's so much panic going on. There's so nervous at that moment that it's difficult to make the right calls at that moment. And you know, when the riders themselves have decided already that they're going to change bikes, you can yell from the car, whatever you want, the damage is done already. The mistake has been made. Well, yeah, and we should also know, I still don't quite

know what happened, Isaac del Toro, another young rider. What was going on was with his mechanic. That was accurate on the course. Yeah. He got, he got a bike and then he decided that he needed the bike. Was it which was on car number two? I don't know, or did that car number one pass them to pass him without seeing him. I don't know. I mean, I guess he was he was he was behind. And by the way, they'll total wins the stage on his bear bike. It was not his race bike.

Interesting. And he's a different bike than the rest of the team, too. He's a different

different color at least, different color. Yeah. Definitely looks like it's this, I think it's the

same bike he was on at the Dofenet. It's after hybrid, arrow climbing bike. It's kind of fun. I must just be a personal preference thing. I can't imagine it's, I mean, maybe it's slightly lighter. I don't know. But this does show you this is what the second time in a month. We've said this apparently experience can be important. Yeah. I mean, you know, there's old that does have its downsides. Exactly. When with Del Toro, it was less of a problem was earlier in the stage.

Yeah. And you know, he, at that moment, the Peloton was not on full speed. So he, he would always

make it back, whether it was with the help of teammates or with the help of the caravan, whatever. But if you have something like that in the final, it, it depends, you know, we don't know. I mean,

I would have to go back to to see the footage.

behind the Peloton. I would think so. You know, there's also already agreements made between and teams that say, okay, if in the final of the race, again, the very final. There's a problem with the leader. There's a guy who was more or less the same bike size who must be behind him, which is maybe this guy, right? But there was time to change the bike. This was not the full final of the race. Now, when you, when you go on the, on the, on the, on the bike of a teammate,

with that circuit ahead of you, you know, you will have to change again, because you cannot, this bike is not going to fit you perfectly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So he had to change again. So

George was saying that should the director not be more on top of that, or is it just too chaotic?

I think it's too chaotic. And even if the director was on top of it, the riders had decided already. They would switch bikes. You know, they were panicking. Yeah. So whatever they were saying

from the car, it was too late already. I mean, also we shall remember, what was at Jonas's first

tour to France, victory, remember it was like stage four or five, and it was just up there. No, did we do best days? Yeah. So mistakes get made by riders that could go on to win the race. So it's not, yeah, it happens to everybody, but that it's funny. The guys are kind of ragging on them. They're like, oh, man, disappointing day from them. Like, well, he's a 19 year old that just got top 10 at a, not only a physically challenging stage, like an incredibly mentally and

technically challenging stage as well, and he's sitting in where is he? He is 6th in the GC, despite having a pretty poor team time trial from his teammates. So yeah, I would say all things considered pretty impressive. Yeah. And that's in his success. There's no doubt about it. He has the real deal. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what what the next stage is going to bring, but you know, stage like today is hectic. And, you know, there was a lot of punctures that

by the way, a lot of mechanical spots. Keep coming into Barcelona. I don't know there must have been something on the road, or we saw quite a bit of mechanical problems entering Barcelona. A lot. I was we were shocked by that. Let's take a quick break unless you have anything else to say about today before we go preview tomorrow. No, that's finished. Okay. We'll be right back. You're on. Okay. We are back. Welcome to the outcomes section before we start without just one

one more thing about the day stage. I think a guy who looked really good with Ramco, I'm going to

pull. Oh, yeah. Always there. Always in the wheel of either Jonas or today,

never looked in problems. Start contrast to lipowits, who was struggling in the last part of this

lead group. I think he lost a bit of time. I think 10 seconds here. What do you think is going on there?

Well, I think it's the guys at diesel. The guys at diesel. I'm not overly worried about him either. But it's a more difficult start for him than the punchy riders. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, for way too early to draw conclusions. I mean, there's people we can draw conclusions. We know for example that Ben O'Connor is not going to be in G.C. It's not only for any more alpha lip. That was that was had to see on a course where this was alpha lip terrain in the past.

This stage, in his prime, there was nobody beating alpha lip today. Today was sat to see him being

dropped one of the first guys. I mean, not one of the first guys, but it was dropped very, very early.

Yeah. Ramco did me kind of look like the Ramco, they got third in 2024. I think he's, yeah,

I think he's there. I think he should say, though, these are not the types of courses where he struggles.

So we don't know. No, no, like can be good today is just kind of Ramco being Ramco. He's very, very good on these tips of courses. Kind of reminds me of the World Championship course that he got second on third on plaster, where did he finish in the World Championship? Second, second. Yeah. So if he can finish second on that course today's not a problem. I mean, it shows you it was really hard because, you know, like a guy, for example, Motifunder Pool was trying, right? Yeah, he survived the first, the first

two, two climbs, and then the last time he couldn't follow. I saw an interview of him before the stage, and he said he was going to try, but he wasn't sure. It depended on the speed of the Peloton, and you know, and there was no attacks, you know, which was in theory, being his favor, and still he couldn't, he couldn't hold on. So it shows you how hard it was.

Then speaking of that World Championships, remember, Del Toro was doing a lot...

Pagachar, even though they're on different teams. And then yeah, now you get the payback.

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Stage three, 195, 196 kilometers basically with how many thousands of feet of climbing. We have

almost 4,000 meters of climbing. 3,500 meters of climbing, I think. In total. That's a lot. Yeah, four climbs. But you know, there's a lot of, like, especially the beginning, you know, if you look at the profile, right, you can say, okay, you know, there's a climb at the beginning, then it's flat-ish. And then there's another climb in the middle of the stage. This, the first 30, 40k or hard. It means up and down and up and down. It's going to be raised hard

too. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that's 3,500 meters of climbing. It's close to a real mountain stage. You know, although there's, there's one climb. I guess in the middle of the stage,

not very hard. And then there's three cat tree climbs. But this is going to be hard, man.

Also, the heat in Spain for the moment is really, really extreme. Today already was, I think,

36, 37 in Barcelona. And then I've heard that tomorrow there's also risks of bushfires, which could potentially alter the stage. We'll see what that gives, because, you know, all these people are along the road. And they, uh, they're there for three, four hours. You know, some of them doing barbecues. Yeah. I mean, this is actually, it's not, it's terrible that this is a problem in both places, but we're having big problems with wildfires here around Aspen.

And so it's not great to see happening there. There's actually no odds out. And I just realized why, because if the stage is altered, it's going to completely change you could win the stage. Because we have this profile we're looking at, thinking one thing. But then the stage, I mean, I don't even know what would happen if they had to, do you know what the alternative plan is for the stage? I don't know. I mean, listen, I say, so it will happen to figure it out.

But so, you know, it's the largest part of the stage is in Spain. And then just the end of the stage,

the last, when you 25k or in France, I think. But, uh, and it is a summit finish. It's a 2k at 7%

up to. Yeah. As a 1.7 kilometers, it's 6.5% the last climb, which is, you know, you could say, well, if it's, if it's still all together, the punches can actually have a chance. Also, but I think tomorrow's Spencer, I don't know what you think. I think it's going to be a breakaway, it's early in the tour to have a breakaway, but it's also very early for one of those two teams, meaning Visma and UAE, to decide we're going to control this. I think if it's not, if it's not a

breakaway, it's because another team would think they have a shot at the stage when we'll control, not UAE or Visma. It would be crazy for UAE or Visma to say, we're going to control this whole stage, and, you know, let's see. But they could win the stage tomorrow, right? Well, yeah, where we could lose the amount of the available in a sprint, and you'd say, why did we, why did we do that? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go for the breakaway, man. Breakaway. And if you look, I think logically, yes,

it is a breakaway day, because if you look at these climbs, it's a hard day, it starts on a climb, but, you know, after there's a climb in the middle of the stage, a cat won a climb that is 9.4K long at 6.6%, but then the cat three climb closer to the finish is 11.5K long at 4% and then the final climb, not so tough, 1.7K at 6.7%. Like you said, so even if you did want to control it as a GC rider, you know, not guaranteed. It's not hard enough to guarantee you a launch point to win or take

time. What would really be the point of that? The only, I'm just trying to think outside the box area on the only, like, oddball scenario I could think of is little track controls it

For Mads' Petterson to win.

what is going on out there? No, because it probably will be a breakaway, even if the fight for

the breakaway is super hard, it's a long stage. It's almost 200K. Yeah, I think I don't think

much better than can win on a 1.7K climb at 6.5% with all the favorites there. I don't think so.

Am I crazy or do they not? I mean, it's good for him. It's like you always want to believe in yourself,

but I feel like sometimes they control on, like, very hard stages where I'm like, I don't think Petterson has a chance here, but they, yeah, he didn't want to see his chance. They do, they do, I mean, look, Pinarello cuter, the six point five did the same thing today. You know, I mean, they, they, until you, a E came to the front on that longer climb, it was them who were keeping the three man breakaway within reach. Obviously, that's only with one thing in mind,

is that they think the pitcock can win the stage. Otherwise, why would they do it? Yeah. You know, and yeah, you see, you see it all often. I mean, you said, feel like you see it more and more, but I would say that I'm just looking at the start list,

little track actually is a lot of interesting options for a breakaway here. If we think it's

going to be a breakaway, they have Darrytchy, they have Queen Simmons, Tom screens, Matthias Vachek, but how much are they thinking of holding guys back for the G's to help one of you, so in the G's see, like how do you think that's going to play out? I think they should play, I mean, they should play all their cards. They have to go into breakaways. There's no guarantee that, I used to, I used to, I used to, yes, today, I heard a little of you for Spanish TV, and he's

confident his goal is to be on the podium of the two of the fronts. That's his goal.

You know, of course he's an ambitious writer. We all know that you have to be ambitious,

but you know, to really design your strategy of the whole team around that, I think it's way too risky. If I use those on the podium, it's because it's going to happen in the long run over the three weeks. They cannot make any decisions tomorrow based on that ambition. I don't think so. Do you have a pick for the stage? Well, it's difficult because I mean, I think it's going to be a breakaway. I'm going to, I'm going to pick Mathew under the pool from the breakaway.

I'd like it. I'd like that's a clock. You know, even if he's still close in Gc, he's not a straightforward Gc, so nobody will care about it. If Mathew is in the breakaway, he'd also get yellow. I think. But then, of course, it depends, it depends, you know, if there's two longer climbs, if he can stay with, potentially there's going to be somebody who's a better pure climber than him in the break. I think he's in good enough shape to be in the break and to stay and then

have a chance on that last climb. So he's my pick, Mathew, from the breakaway. I'd actually like to pick a lot because if the stage is altered, he could still win. You know, it's not like, of course, dependent. I have a pick and I'm feeling good about this pick. Maybe not as automatic as Mathew Vanderpool. And I do think, I do think a little track is going to be relevant. Quinn Simmons will probably be in a break. If there's a breakaway to be in, Quinn Simmons will be up there. I don't

think Quinn Simmons is going to win, though. I think Magnus Court is going to win the stage. This is a Magnus Court stage right here. This is a perfect for him. And he just won the Danish National Championships. He's retiring. He needs to win the stage of this tour to France. God, he doesn't need to. I mean, he's, he's won already some stages. But yeah, I think he's won two stages of the tour. Yeah. He's got to be on form if he just slept in a 40 degree

Celsius hotel room. So he's playing with you following his vlog on the window. Yeah, he's got to create

an amazing, amazing Instagram. And that it's funny. He's like, why is he retiring? He's got good

years left. And it's like, well, if you follow him on Instagram, you could see the unglomerate side of Procycling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. I mean, Vanderpool is a very good pick. But this is like, there's no, there's no arts yet. I'll get no on the, I think it's because of the, yeah, I think it's because that they're waiting to see what the stage is going to be before their odds out. But, you know, Vanderpool, he had went anything. Could be, they should just do

today's course again. Just rerun it. Keep everything, keep those barriers out. Let's do it again. But you have any other predictions for the stage, Johan. I don't think we'll see any GC action. Me neither. So I don't think so. I mean, we should say, even if we're going to preview preview, then we have stage four. I think that's another breakaway day and then stage five. And then the

really, like, I think everything's just going towards stage six for the GC. Let's do my land, right?

Yeah. So I think we're going to see a little bit of like a hibernation here on the GC for a little bit.

Yep.

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we had to say about the stay. It was super exciting, man. I mean, it was super exciting. We over all expecting, you know, a bomb dropped by Pugachar but he dropped it in another way. Yeah, I was shocked.

At the end of the I did never seen anything like that. It was shocking to me. I've never been

more impressed by a non-win. So he didn't win but what did we just see? I mean, you know, the calculated way he made that decision at the end, that's that's impressive. When everybody is just hanging off of your life like looking for the last breath, you know, and he just said, okay, I'll just slow down a bit to make sure that EZAC gets first over the line. That was unbelievable. You know, watching Remko and Jonas suffer suffer to stay on the wall while he's free willing. It was

unbelievable. And I'm excited to see if you're bored of Pugachar, if you think this guy went all the time, then there's something for you too because now we have the Del Toro storyline. I'm excited

to see where that goes. I think he is going to be a big big star. Maybe not he is already star now.

Yeah, I think Lance could be on to something. I mean, I hesitate to push Jonas off the

second place of the podium yet because there's a lot of respect. You know, Jonas, Jonas is still

Jonas. You know, that's we have to, we have to see him as, as number two. Yeah, for the number two until proven otherwise, which yeah, it easily, I could, I could imagine him working. You know, when number two depends how you look at it, right? Number two in big stage races, whenever Pugachar is not there. When Pugachar is not there, he's number one everywhere in the stage races, but Del Toro is just a more complete rider. He can win one day races,

he can win sprints. He's super, super aggressive, punchy. Yeah, I mean, the guys, the guy has the, all the ingredients of the star. Yeah, yeah, you're right. He's not, he's very good at stage racing, like he's not lost to stage race, that he's finished since last year since May of last year, but he's way more than that. So it's, yeah, exciting rider. I'm excited to see where he can go from here and we'll be back, Johan, to talk about stage three and predict stage four.

So thanks for joining us. Okay, thanks, that's it. Bye.

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