TJG: RHOBH S15 E12!

- Welcome back to Two Judging Girls.

This is Mary from the Bay. And it's Courtney from LA.

“We got a lot to talk about today, but first,”

we need to discuss what is happening two days. We're kicking off March manness. Two day up until Thursday, you have the opportunity to vote for the top 64 of how they will be seated. You get 20 votes on the Google form.

We will continue to post it throughout the week. Vote for your top 20. Also, make sure that you vote for your hot hall of fame, as well. It's all in the form, and you will vote for your hottest people on Bravo and Traders.

Mary, do you want to explain why we do Traders now? It's because it's on peacock, it's Bravo adjacent. Well, we also put a vote out last year.

And we said, "Hey guys, would you want to add Traders

"in," that gives us another batch of men. And it was like an overwhelming, I believe it was like 93% yes of adding Traders. So that is just the next show that we added. And we're not gonna do love Island.

We're not doing random spin-off shows. And we're not doing dancing with the stars except for Mark Ballas because he's on Traders, but Trader Men are included. Yes, and get excited about that. Yes, so based on your top 20 throughout the week

“of how everybody votes is that's how they'll be seated, right?”

And we will then, after that, we will then present Sunday, March 15th, that will be Selection Sunday. It coincides with actual March Madness, while your partner is filling out their bracket with what college they think's going to the end,

they can also fill out a bracket with you for what man is going to the end. And just remember, March is international women's month, which means we're allowed in March to objectify the men.

It's our God-given right. Also, I think it's very important to remember when we do this Google form, there are no pictures. After Selection Sunday, you will have a visual, don't worry. Okay, but when you do the Google Doc,

you have to do the research on your own. Remember, you can vote as many times as you want for your top 20, and just have fun, because Selection Sunday is when it really gets attacked.

“Yes, we're adding their Instagram handles,”

this year, to the Google form, for those that we can find that have their own handles. So if you're unsure, and there's an Instagram handle, feel free to type that into your Instagram. Something about Selection Sunday that I love too,

is I love when some of the men pop in, because they want it, like Joe Bradley from Southern charm,

he's always poppin' into see where he goes.

I mean, they wanna know, they wanna send the spicy photos. They get excited. March, man, it's here, it's happening today. The Google form will be up. We will have all the instructions for you.

It's the most wonderful time of the year. Have fun, start campaigning for your men. Get ready, because it is bigger, it is better. It is bolder, it's March, man, this. Get excited!

You can also buy the merch too. It's on our WhatsApp website. Get the merch, it's made by Michael. He would be so pleased if you got a couple sales. Okay, there's something that we have to discuss,

because on Thursday, it ran rampant. And it is the rumor that West and Amanda have been secretly hooking up. Do you believe it? Absolutely not.

Do you believe it? I would say no way, there's the Sierra factor, there's the Kyle factor. I mean, it would just break up the family. Literally, West spent an entire season

of being respectful to Sierra, because he doesn't want to hurt the family. I would genuinely be so shocked. We can't have a scandal. This would shake the Bravo universe,

and I refuse to believe it. There's no way, this is the problem with Dumoah. You can't write whatever you want. It's not just Dumoah, Mary. There were multiple accounts that were reporting this.

So what are the facts that they've hung out? Right, we saw the snow day. Exactly. People were like, well, they spent the Blizzard together. There's little things, right?

It's like, Sierra stopped liking Amanda's posts. She hasn't been liking anything. Sierra stopped posting in general February 16th. They went on to her, she's posting stories,

So people are wondering that now look, West.

So this came out on Dumoah, and then West posts some story, like 30 minutes after that. And I just realized West, you posting a story. Your DMs are about to blow up,

because it's like not addressing that, because you're thinking too, well, if it's just a rumor, why don't they address it? But it's like, once every rumor starts,

“you have to start addressing every single rumor.”

And he just wrote, like, this shit is annoying. And I'm taking that as a denial. It would be so, so disheartened. Shocked, I'd be hurt by this. Oh, you, this would personally affect you

from your close personal parasocial friends of for us Amanda West. Our DJ sister, she couldn't do that to us.

There's just no way I also saw something

about people saying that they were holding hands underneath the table, while Kyle was right across from them. I just, there's no way. I could literally see them holding hands, be like, Kyle, like, there was the rumor

that Amanda was dating his friend, dating there's, you know, Sierra West were at the Super Bowl. I just think West is very savvy and had a whole season of everybody hating him because of the Sierra incident

that for somebody who doesn't want to be in a committed relationship for him to do this social suicide, basically, to just hook up with Amanda, who's also said, I don't want anything serious, I just want to have fun.

Even in that Mary Claire magazine, she talks about how like Sierra was really a support system for her, I literally just can't see her doing this

“and if they did, it would, I think, really ruin”

the both of them and I just can't imagine that either of them would do that at this point when there's 8 billion people in the world.

- But then I never thought skinned of all what happened.

So, also, if you did do it, deny, deny, deny, and never do it again. Like, that's what I was wondering too. Okay, you know, their friends, they've been hanging out a lot. We joked, like, it's so nice that in the separation, they both got custody of West.

I just feel like West has a ton of girl space friends. - There's just no way, right? Are we gonna be biting our words? - I know, that's what I'm like. I just, I just, I can't see anything.

- Do you think it's worth it to either of them? I'm like, you're telling me, a little P and V is worth the drama. - Oh, I don't think that happened. I would think maybe like a drunk and make out if anything.

I don't think it would have escalated, maybe it was an accident. The more you talk about it, the more I'm talking myself into it. But no, it didn't happen, okay? It didn't happen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

- You think it could happen. Maybe on accident. - Oh, he tripped, he fell on her. So you're saying that they're risking this all for a drunk and make out all a Jesse and Sierra?

- I don't think anything happened. I'm sticking to that story.

“- I agree, and I think it's like, create.”

I just can't imagine either of them literally seeing how scandal all happened to and being like, maybe we could have our own. - It didn't work out. He's on house of villains as the joke, okay?

Where is Rachel? She's doing sound baths in Sonoma. The only difference is, is that it wouldn't be cheating. - Sure, but it would be betrayal to the end degree, to Sierra, to Kyle, who, like, they purport to be

their very close friends. I just can't also imagine too. When I say, like, West is savvy, like, okay. If this is where to be something, literally, like, he's risking his future on summer house

as the anchor of the show for next season, if the OGs are truly just on in the city and aren't coming back to summer house. Him and Jesse and Sierra supposed to be the anchors, right? Like, they become the OGs of the new version.

- So, him doing that would really, really cause a ruckus. And I just don't think that he wants the heat from the Bravo following. - I also think Amanda wouldn't do it because of Sierra.

And I don't think West, West is a guy's guy. He wouldn't do that to Kyle. I just don't believe it happened. However, this also came across my mind as you said the anchors part.

- Oh, put it. - Jesse Solomon doesn't come back next season. - Did I fire him? - Yes. - I'm a coyote.

- I feel like the audience is not like in him. - Yeah, I do get that, which I like Jesse. - I don't know, there's something about him. It just came across my mind the other day and I was like, maybe he won't come back.

I don't know, I don't think he's resonating with the audience right now. - Sure, but at the end of the day, if you're rebooting, do you get rid of who the main players are? Like Ben, I will bet that Ben doesn't come back before

Like I will put all my money that Ben does not return.

- Right, right, right.

“- I just can't imagine, I mean, who knows,”

maybe Jesse will redeem himself at some point. I don't know, but it is interesting, you say that. I can't imagine he would go. It just came across my mind, you know? I am a witch, who, at the DJ's gone,

who's gonna sing for the group. - I weirdly think Kyle's gonna be back, too. - I kinda think he's gonna be back, too. - Club send it still lives. - Yeah, I do feel like Kyle's gonna.

- He has one last summer in him. - All right. - Cara Radsu, well, I'm looking at her returning. - Where's the summer? - It doesn't have to end, you know.

It's just those are just estimations. (laughs) Anyway, don't hook up with your friends, partners or ex-partners.

I feel like that just should be one of the top bravo rules.

- We need to write a bravo 10 commandments. Could somebody write that for us? (laughs) - Okay, what would you put on your commandments? - Val, shall not say Andy's name in vain.

- Good one.

“- Val, shall not sleep with their neighbor's wife.”

(laughs) That's the real commandment, and it works in this instance. Val, shall not do really stupid pranks. - Ooh.

- Val, shall not lie about literally everything. (laughs) Val, shall drink on days that end in y. Love it, okay. What about something like that?

- Oh, shall be required to share personal aspects of their life and not hide them by putting the blame and putting somebody else's relationship or ex-relationship on blast. I think you can just end there.

Is that a perfect segue? Let's take a break, and then we'll come back with Beverly Hills. - Okay, this episode was called a rivet air-chay Beverly Hills. This was a filler.

We are 12 episodes into the season, and Doree still has the butterfly yellow nails. - I still haven't even noticed them. (laughs)

- Just, okay, and here's the thing.

Rachel has also been rocking kind of the milky white chrome for all of funny bunny bubble bath mix. The haily beaver look. It doesn't bother me as much because it's more of a neutral.

It's these butterfly yellow nails, and I like butterfly yellow. But they're drive me nuts, 12 episodes in. - Yeah, I can understand why they're distracting you. I wish I would notice them.

- I'll send you a picture, so that's just every weekend from now on. I'm like, did she get 'em re-done? I don't even know, actually she got 'em re-done for Italy. I will have to check.

She was so late. I didn't have the opportunity to look at the hands. - Also, they were trying to make her late, such a thing. It would have made sense if she missed the plate. Like, the girl made it, I'm sorry.

If you make the flight, we can't talk about it. Mary, that was clearly Erica doing Kyle's dirty work of setting up the erratic nature of Doree. Her trying to get Rachel on the side of, oh, there's something wrong with Doree.

Oh, we need to say something about Doree because Kyle and Erica had that conversation. But then it also got me wondering, Mary. - Sure. - Who's locations do you think that Erica has?

- Oh, so she knew Doree was at home and in Sino. - Yes. I feel like not that many to be honest, maybe like four. Like, do you think they share locations during filming maybe?

- I, you know my thing about sharing locations.

“I think it is so weird and privacy violation.”

I just think people need to stop tracking people. Like, you don't need to know where everyone is all the time. I really don't like it. I don't appreciate it. People don't do it.

It's creepy. It's like I sit there sheen a chase style and like scroll through to see if people are hooking up and like what house that they're at. I'm checking location in the sense of

I need to call somebody if they're somewhere for instance. If I need to call my mom or I've texted her and she hasn't responded, I'll check her location. Oh, she's playing pickle ball right now. It's not smart for me to call her a week till she gets home.

I'm not like stalking where people are like, oh, I'm meeting somebody at the restaurant. Have they left their house yet? Because then I can time my arrival to theirs. As a person that suffers from the disease of lateness,

they're exactly why I don't want people to have my location. Well, maybe you need to be accountable for being slightly on time. And then people wouldn't be like, who's checking your location though?

Like, I have your location. I don't check it. Okay. I was checking as you were leaving for coming down here.

much longer than the time that you said you'd be departing.

See, this is another reason why I don't want people to have my location. Well, because it was I didn't want to text you until you were on the road. It wasn't like I was like, where are you? It was like, I didn't want to bother you until you were on the road. Because I assume that you were getting stuff done at the house.

A text from me would only prolong you leaving. I want to be more anonymous. Too bad. Too bad. I want to be off the phone.

I want to be not tracked. I just want to go about my day and I'm sorry. I'm about your day and live in appearance. Just know that some of us are watching. Okay.

Moving on.

“Did we say how many people Erica has known you didn't get a number?”

I'm guessing that means. No, I think we'll look. Oh, you said four. Oh, who are the four? So, Doree.

Her assistant, Mikey, is in her son. We have not seen Mikey at all for like a season or two. I think they still work together. Okay. And then her son.

Okay. So four. Yeah. Okay. I feel like Erica has, well, four could be generous.

Oh, you think black? No, Mikey. No, Mikey, Doree for filming. And that's about it. And her assistant.

Now her assistant and son, basically, I'm giving two.

I don't think people want to give Erica their location. And oh, we would about track.

“I see once again, I think that's a bad idea.”

Oh, no. He feels old school. No. No. He has a flip phone.

No, not that, but just they wouldn't know how to share locations together. No. Mary. But she literally has other people's locations, you don't think she knows how to share. Maybe Doree shared it with her and then her assistant.

She doesn't actually have her shared location. Anyways. Okay. Let's move forward. Sky just got back.

He has been in France for two weeks. He brought home his mom a $400. Airmez Bangle. It was quite adorable. I wonder if her, if Rachel was like, okay, here's the money.

I want you to go to the store and get this Bangle.

“It will look great with my collection or do you think you picked it up?”

A big week for Ermez. More a God or Birken, Rachel God or Bangle, big week. Do I think, I'd love to know what his allowance is, really saving for this. No, I would say you're correct that she sent him a photo of something she would like. And he went, I can't just imagine he's walking in an Ermez.

Right. It was like, teenagers wouldn't be allowed in the store, just maybe with a guardian. Sure. I'm sure maybe he had either way, great gift, really adorable. Sutton, eating ice cream in front of that giant TV, talking to the dogs, that was a

moment. I was thinking about it this week because I feel like she was putting kind of Amanda into like housewife boot camp, she was trying to give her some advice, she was trying to show her how the show goes. And the way that we have been introduced to Sutton Brown, haven't you?

Completely forgotten about her drinking problem. I don't like, yeah, the drinking problem.

I just every time I see her face and I'm like, God, she really looks so refreshed, so amazing.

It was a little sad to have that roly TV and then being like five feet from her face because like, she needs like readers basically and then her talk is so cute, though. And I also really love those chairs. The proximity of the TV to her face was psychotic, like she needs some blue light lenses, definitely, definitely.

I mean, that when it's sense to watch that TV in the bathtub, oh, yeah, I was wondering at that, I'm like, that room doesn't have a TV or outside maybe, it didn't make sense in the space. Yeah, or maybe she needed like a split screen, so she had a big TV going and then the smaller TV.

What do you think she was watching? Oh, good question, the McBead Dynasty. That was so fast, you thought it was because at BravoCon, I had asked her who does she want to win from her tremendous, and she mentioned the McBead guys, and she said, I am going to go home and watch that on marathon alone.

Whoa, so that's something, that's stood out to me, I do love that she said that, though. That's just the McBead, he's a cutie, Stephen McBead, cool, he thought a hill. And none of this means anything to you, but one day you'll be in, yeah, okay, let's talk Amanda and Kyle meeting up at Jade's.

I mean, it's a coffee shop.

“It looked like a, yeah, no, just was like, I felt like they were in Malibu or something,”

about like, very like countrymark, ask. It definitely felt like I was outside of a grocery store, okay, yeah, which also, I kind of appreciate this meet-up, though, where it's just like organic meeting up with a friend for coffee. It's also just so embarrassing, the amount of times the Kyle has to film with her.

And she's just not doing anything. Okay, we gotta talk to half, oh, half almond. Now I posted about this saying Amanda needs to explain herself and someone said, it's actually very delicious. To me that is, it just seems like a lot to really be half almond because how are

you so sure it's 50/50? I mean, you are an oat girl, I'm 2%.

I'm a coconut milk girl to be honest, but a lot of places don't have coconut milk.

It's so LA of me, but I will do an oat or an almond, I don't have a preference, really. Well, Courtney, the next time you get a latte, please get half of half almond and lettuce now. Okay, I'll do maybe I'll do like a taste test, one that's oat, one that's almond and

“one's half and half, I'll close my eyes, you know how they do them with the sodas?”

Yes, the diet. Yeah, it's like a can, is that out of a glass bottle, is that make Donalds, sure, she will do that together. We also have to talk about Amanda's outfit here, so she is wearing a long sleeve shambra shirt, yellow shorts, and then she's wearing these pink coral lubeotons.

How do I know they're lubeotons because when they sat there to discuss, she made sure it hung off her big toe so that you could see the red bottom. Did you notice that? I didn't know it. I haven't noticed the nails, I'm so sorry.

Let me, let me just pull this up for you so that you can see. Oh, you see her hanging on her big toe. Sure. You guys, I wear lubees. I mean, she's the money queen, she's got to show off her new money.

It's also a van cleave bracelet that she's worn as an ankle. Oh, that's just important to know the, I don't know if you know, so Amanda has a ton of money. But she's just like, oh, Kyle, the girls came over, no one wanted to journal. People were doing artwork.

They didn't show the fuck up and Kyle's just like, oh, man, I'm so sorry. So let me get you my storyline because Doree is just so scattered. She had glam come to her house at 2 a.m.

“with a 5 a.m. flight, which honestly is genuinely psychotic, I love it though.”

She cares so much, that's iconic. Oh, you think she's attentive to detail that is housewife behavior that I appreciate because I want to see them waste their money. I want to see them be over the top and I can get behind this because it is psychotic. 2 a.m. glam is crazy.

Did she sleep? Well, no, she woke up at 2 a.m. for the glam. She went to bed at like 9. So I don't even know that one. There's no way she slept.

I read.

I feel like she's always so behind that she did tell us at the private suite that she

didn't sleep. She's kept on packing, then the glam showed up, like she slept shorty minutes on the car right over. Yes, that, yeah, she smoked a sig. Sure.

How did I, yeah, it's a regular coke. She and Erica do. That's their calorie intake. The juxtaposition between these two conversations, though, between Kyle and Amanda and the Dury in Bose was like really funny, the filming of it.

Dury is like, Dury is putting champagne on ice for about a 50 person party. This is a giant ice, I don't wonder those things even called like a champagne holder on. I know what you mean. Like I literally when she brought that I was like, we're in the store this.

How many people are coming over? Well, she had two bottles because you know what? Bose. Do you want regular champagne? Or Rose.

Because I mean, the Hamptons I was doing Rose saying, I also feel like the Hamptons changed their life. These women have the best time there and needs to be an annual trip for everyone to go. I really feel like they got reinvigorated in the interest and then they let it go.

And then not only that, she was styled by Rachel Zo, she was validated by Rachel Zo. She's living her dream life minus the debt and PK in the divorce. Then it makes me question their finances because I maybe they do have money a little.

I think her contributions because they mentioned it back to, right, that in the Hamptons Kyle tells us that Dury was talking about how PK was paying all the stuff and then just decided not to. Now I don't think that he has money. I think she makes money from this show.

I literally don't know what he makes money from. Boyd George showing up every so often somewhere. Like what is his last moment? Give him debt, I don't know, I don't know, it's all very, very interesting, I love to see the books.

“I think Dury would love to see the books, I was like what books, it's a page, it doesn't”

even qualify as a book, it's one, it's remember there's a Google Doc and Moa scene it. That's true, that Dury has an eye, it's sandal trust. I just think Dury makes money from the show but it does not equate to the lifestyle she wants to live.

Oh, even Lisa Renna in her book basically said, "My entire salary for housewives paid

to be on housewives," obviously they get partnerships and opportunities from being on the show. Yes, but even Lisa said too is like nobody wanted to dress housewives, as soon as she left housewives yet all these opportunities for people wanting to dress her, it was just something about the show and I started thinking when Lisa was doing Beverly Hills though, brands

“like rent the runway or newly or pickle or whatever it is, they weren't really that much”

in existence, they might have existed because we've definitely used them but not to the level of what these women wanted where I feel like you could probably now rent Chanel somewhere, you could rent Louis Vuitton or whatever it is and I would think that someone like Dury or

Erica are renting these clothes, agreed because they're never wearing them again, yeah, it's

actually smart to do that, very opening when Lisa was talking about that, you guys I actually really enjoyed the book, I listened to the whole thing in Spotify at 1.5x, okay at 1. though, I switched it to 1x, do not listen to it at 1x, I started at 1.3 and then I bumped it up to 1.5 which was totally fine, it sounds just like her at 1.5, her at 1 it sounds like somebody else, it's actually very crazy, it's like her it almost sounds like she's slurring

her words a little bit at 1.5 it literally sounds like how Lisa rent a speaks and the way she narrates it, it's like a podcast, you feel like she's talking to her, she's not reading the book, she does a fantastic job, lots of emotion, the intonations in her voice, it's really fun, it's also like less than 7 hours and when it's on 1.5x speed, you do the math because we can't, but it's right, okay back to Doreton Bows, so Bows is like

I had so much foam, I was spying on you so you know, Bows have to be location, there is just discrepancy though between if Kyle called Bows or Bows called Kyle and Kyle says in the after show, no, Bows called me and I had to go outside because I wasn't having internet and she reached out to me and you know, of course both because she's a good friend to Doreton Bows are all about Kyle and Kyle is worried about you, about your buying habits

and said that your moody and very erratic and Doreton is like vigorously shaking her head, she's like it was like she was having an outer body experience like it felt like this was the

first time she had hurt us too and it's kind of interesting too because during the phone call

Bows is kind of a green and she is a little bit worried about her finances just because this like looming divorce and doesn't say anything to Kyle like oh that feels wilder, she's listening and a green with Kyle so it felt a little dirty the way that she was sending this info back I disagree first off this was a production phone call so whether Bows called Kyle or Kyle called Bows, Bows called Kyle because that was the set time for Bows to call Kyle and get an update

on the trip just like when Kyle called Erica in the backyard to do an update of the trip

“the episode before that and I think Bows is so smart and she said I'm going to let Kyle speak”

and she can have whatever she says and then I'm going to make sure that Doreet saying it because what's the point of her telling Kyle to get off the ledge of what she's saying she's been saying all of these things about Doreet the entire time and Bows has said to she thought Kyle was coming from a place of concern and so I think when she went to Doreet's house she was like let me get Doreet's account of all of this and then I can compare and see is Kyle actually being caring or she

using this as her storyline because she doesn't want to talk about the husband and it feels like

times by four so a really long time she didn't bring this up what's 24 times four it's a lot of hours it's 48 plus 48 96 yes it just was fun because both of them were not going to math it they're like I'm not going to look stupid saying the answer to this and Doreet just she's can't even believe

“this I was with her the whole weekend 24 times four I am the token idiot I believe Kyle and I”

were in a good place and you know what she changed so much when she got to Doreet she was working out all that time she wasn't drinking she got tattoo you know Kyle doesn't just go in words

and show up for her friends and maybe then we would turn the eighth corner I've never heard that

expression I think it's turned the corner but I think she's saying for the eighth time at this point like I got giving her and she's continuing but the point that she also said was she was really starting to emulate the people she hung out with because she was saying yeah Morgan Wade yeah so all of a sudden you were the one who was kind of going erratic the crazy part is though and I don't know why they're not saying this out I don't think it was the divorce it was her friend passing away

that made her do all of these different changes but two Doreet's points like yeah something happened maybe you had a moment of being erratic and you were trying to figure out what your identity was and you were going through somewhat of a crisis and like that's in a way normal and so when that happened to you we were kind of questioning what was going on but nobody went as hard as you did on to me with this divorce because you want to build a case for P.K. I just well at the end of the day I just

think I doesn't like Doreet and I think just stop being a part of her story line at this point even you keep telling Doreet stop talking stop talking stop talking and then yet you have no problem

like basically messing with her reputation on camera calling her erratic being able to take these

clips and use them against her in a court of law and building P.K's case against Doreet so if you

“wanted to stop talking then maybe you should too it is really weird that Kyle's storyline is”

this Doreet situation it feels very not like her I was trying to like her again but she's making it tough I just don't understand why she decided to go this route and there be a difference if she actually was a caring friend like if she literally was concerned which I think people like bows and sudden and people who are saying hey Doreet we just don't want you to say anything on camera that will get you in trouble like that's all we're saying and that's the message coming from

Kyle except that we know she's connected to Mo and she's connected to P.K and when she's like you know P.K's trying to ruin my life she's like well we don't know that Doreet like Kyle stop defending P.K if you cared about Doreet then you'd approach the whole situation differently you would tell Mo no scenes with him you would tell Doreet do not sit down with Mo it will not help your case imagine if all these people said this about her and Mauricio oh I know it's just it's not even the same

situation by any means but it's well even like when she goes shopping with Erica leader and she's like

oh should I put this a most card and you know I've never had to deal with like the financial issues it's just

super off-putting I'm not either girls look at me my relationships great because I sweep everything under the rug bows on watch what happens live she was talking about Mauricio because they brought him up right and she was like Kyle go get your man that man has an aura about him and I'm like it's not for Kyle to get he's done if she is trying to get him back if they only told us what

“really happened I think we know what happened though I'm not I've the kind of kind of talked”

to myself out of the cheating thing I would love to explore that more tell me more why you think no on that what do you think happened I don't I I think they fell out of love maybe or she he wasn't giving her the attention she wanted they they just kind of went their separate ways I just can't imagine if someone was cheating on you so much that you continue to talk to them and show them love I really it doesn't make okay what if though it was kind of like a don't ask don't tell policy

and I think when her friend passed away she started to reevaluate the things in her life and my letting things pass me by my not living my happiness because I want him to be happier I want my daughters to be happy and I'm becoming passive and she started to think about these things met Morgan put her energy in a motion over there was like oh look someone can give you the emotional

and like wasn't there for her regardless of the cheating and now is like oh the grass isn't greener

“even though the grass is green at my Nashville investment property. I just I don't believe”

the whole don't ask don't tell thing if he was always cheating on her she wouldn't continue to

talk to him you would hate that person okay but does she sweep things under the rug and avoid that because she wants to keep that family unit which is very Kyle to present differently than what's going on internally I don't know I'm not I'm I just I just I just let's take a break and then come back can we talk about the Rachel situation with her boys I would love to get your opinion on if you think this should have happened on camera this wasn't the first time the children heard about this

okay yeah I thought she did a great job that's like can we have a serious talk he was hilarious did anyone die is anyone sick does anyone have a tumor and she's like no like when you guys where I can you know the divorce has been put in motion and I just wanted you guys to hear it from me

first and she's just like the children have high emotional intelligence she really gets them to talk

about their feelings and I couldn't believe when Kyle said in the past like he was mad at her for letting Roger treat her that way that was like totally crazy I also feel like what changed in Roger like what happened if he was like his entire personality has flipped I wonder if next season if the kids will be able to be on Beverly Hills because I can see him being like no after the way that you've spoken about me I'm not going to let the kids fill and I could see PKK doing that as

well like a control power situation but it just feels like Roger's a completely different person than who she was with for like over 30 years and I'm like what changed in him he'll be fair we don't really see Doreats kids this season we saw facing X on a FaceTime which PKK was part of so he knew what the conversation was you bring up a good point about filming it's her kids are so cute also Kyle said to when sky was lighting a candle she's like mom relax he's 14 he could be

around a controlled flame like or something like that I was just was like laughing like they really do they have such respect for their mom they love her they are so worried about her well being there's something just so sweet like she's really raised those kids right great question about

Roger it's like was this always how the relationship was and then like someone showed interest in him

finally that he was like okay this is what I'm doing is he having his midlife crisis is he just like I'm done more things happening that she wasn't aware of before and then he finally told her like she mentions she figured out the cheating because he told her was that his first time doing that it feels like it was a bad for quite a few years though and then I think they were probably like on the outs and so he like went for it but I'm like what changed in him it feels like something like

went off or switch it just feels like something happened. She did say too is like once we had kids our relationship completely changed which I'm sure it is happens for every relationship it doesn't change right because you're not just a unit of two anymore you're unit of three four whatever it is and the selfishness of being in a couple actually changes because you put your selfishness into your child now totally totally and so was he feeling lack of attention because she was showing so much

love to these boys was it the way that they were parenting it feels like he wasn't around a lot

“at the end you know they talk about it being more peaceful without him that's why I feel like”

this was a build up for many years yeah it's sad totally but she makes a good point too is like I think it's more important to have two parents that love their children oh tour as opposed to fighting in house like Rachel really has shown a level of vulnerability of someone who's going through contentious breakup but still understanding their worth and I think that probably was a wake of call when her son said that about I can't believe you let dad treat you that way and her just

having the like reflected be like what kind of example am I setting for them it's also interesting with the whole Rachel's situation because her story is really like a solo story it's just about herself and her family we've seen her have fun with the women but no discourse which I'm really curious

“how that will look for next season I think she's had a great first season but what is going to”

happen next season like the fight do you feel like they're setting her up to be a queen be

welcome and this would be a good time for her to go out but she knows no I know you know show remember when you were like Kyle's definitely going to leave a move to ask been for a more peaceful life

“so I think she would have if Morgan was they were still together what do you think she's doing”

a Nashville I anyways I so the person who never believed they were really dating and now I'm on board

you're telling me it's over I agree insinuated when they filmed they are together they go on and off where's the doc where's the doc you guys I need to be in Sanne and as the weekend of 1010 I have to be there I hope there's one hotel room available because she's brought out the whole city I need to be at this tacky ass wedding I am obsessed I mean Eddie's coming in on a horse she's held a cop during in with rose petals falling from the helicopter

like she talks about a $300,000 budget in the after show she says maybe seven figures they ask her who she's gonna invite in the after show and she's like I don't know I feel like I have to invite all the women and then they ask Kyle I'm certain would you go to Amanda's wedding and Kyle says if nothing was going on that weekend sure and sentence yeah maybe I was just like oh my god poor Amanda who is on her guest list I'll be on it please invite me I would love to go

she's building a glass house for the reception you guys the after show is worth it because Amanda again filming by herself because nobody wants to film with her I don't even think she realizes

“nobody wants to film with her I think she thinks it's a scheduling issue and that's what”

production told her she's like okay this wedding is going to be ridiculous and Eddie's not coming in on a horse by the way he is after the ceremony is then getting on a horse the barn doors open and everybody follows him watch out for the shit everyone's following him to the cocktail hour also I had like a few flashbacks here 10 10 Cynthia Bailey I mean remember that that was okay deal they're not together anymore and then I thought about the helicopter and I don't know if

you remember but on the simple life like the first season which is a Kyle Richards connection here

I think it was Kathy Hilton hosting like a backyard party for them and a helicopter came and picked up Paris at Nicole I do remember that but don't you remember didn't didn't slade and crash it oh for the proposal yes there is a helicopter remember when he got her the roles Royce and was like it's a lease maybe returned it right after yes they had a helicopter proposal because it was his radio show remember and she started playing Gretchen's song

yes the lady like the pink like cockatoo hair and she's like go get your woman slayed and then that was their last episode yeah because it fell a little put upon yeah because she proposed to him still not married because he has debt and child support to pay right 17 years did that together anyways I got to get to this wedding hey do you want to massage while I drive you

“honestly sounds great this is the least fancy car she owns she just cannot help herself she really is”

Dana Pam 25,000 it's just unfortunate she just didn't understand the game there was no opening for her I don't know who should have brought her on or she should have come on with I don't not only does end up going to Italy which doesn't even make sense to me why she here I don't understand but maybe they should have been friends together and they're just Amanda's on an island on her own

of delusion and I appreciate watching it there's something so amazing about her I'm just like

the fact is you guys she does have money meaning people are paying for these courses even on discount for the value they're paying like her money is very real and it's wild how much she has of it and yet she can't help herself like it is fascinating again she tells us that she makes in a month what Eddie makes in a year so she has this holdover and I'm like she like financially abusing him like Eddie Blink twice because she's getting three facials a month like three facials a month

seems like not healthy for your skin she's driving this lease fancy car it's got a massage in it and you know what if she can parallel park this car what else can she do she makes millions she parallel parks cars okay she is Amanda walking for answers you better respect it it would be

spend all the money has a vision in their head what's the vision Mary chaos yeah tacky chaos is that what it is when she was putting together you know the woven chairs and the blue china all over the place it was so ugly and then I kept thinking what store are we in right now that we're doing this is it a wedding rental store like I couldn't figure out what we were doing like what do you need like the blue china for and then it's going to be the best gluten free Jewish Christian wedding

“you've ever been to and I'm like honestly I haven't been to one of those please invite me”

who's being invited to this like I'm being dead serious who are her friends you know what she's going to do Mary what she's going to sell tickets to this wedding through her manifestation course no I'm not I'm not even joking I really think she would do that it comes with a hotel package dinner at a show and it's going to be a weekend getaway that you can pay for the experience speaking of her friends because I noticed when she was at watch what happens live I follow this woman

her name is Alana and she's a volume eater she's all about like water first veggies and I've been following her for years what's a volume eater like you eat a a bunch but she eats like really healthy

so she's always like water first veggies next and then you know you have your proteins and stuff

so she eats like a big plates but all really healthy veggie forward thing like three cucumbers totally okay and and and she was with her at watch what happens live and I was like speaking of her friends I'm like this is so rant like this was like some like that was her audience guest yes and it's like this girl that I follow on Instagram for like healthy eating tips she lives in LA is she a grifter too?

no I don't think okay yeah she's pretty successful so it's Amanda no I know I don't think the grifter vibes okay yeah okay so she's got one guest that's the only friend I know about of her okay yeah also she was on watch what happens live with Gigi and Gigi and her were staying at Gigi from Shaw's oh from the valley Gigi is smokey to Jay outside the hotel room and she's like Amanda Amanda they're on the show together and Amanda doesn't know who Gigi is is like

rude to her barely says hi and then they go to watch what happens live they're literally

guests together Gigi's in the first chair and she's like oh my god I didn't realize and Gigi's like

“that's how you treat your fans like this is so weird I guess Andy was like yeah Gigi's been”

on bravo for a long time she told this whole story on jump Lewis live but I just think it's really funny it's like Amanda you're a first time housewife that should be so gracious to fans like if anyone comes up to you and says anything hi thank you do you want to picture you know engage and I guess she's totally blue off Gigi to come to find out she's literally sitting next to her and Gigi's in the first chair I just found that story hysterical maybe she isn't like pot

maybe the smell was too much for her so she was getting away from it stop defending Amanda I'm trying to get an invite to the wedding I'm even wearing my hair half a path down in the millennial core of Amanda Francis like I'm really trying here oh funny she's just an open head like I'm available 10 10 okay absolutely receive yeah there we go okay do you want to talk Kyle and Erica about Kyle studying the scene for Erica to understand because right now

Kyle is petitioning for Erica to be on her side so that there's a blow up in Italy and we know that

“happens what Kyle wears to this shopping trip was so bizarre I think Lisa Rennes has it in her book”

she called Kyle like the mother of the bridebook always but she's wearing this blue dress with wedges

it's so ugly this like weird chain it's just like such such a mess and the way she was dressed compared to Erica Erica was like wearing no makeup I had in jeans it just like didn't sink and it was just ugly I'm sorry it was just I love the delivery of for me she's getting Erica to come over to her team and we know that team is strong because Doris still not talking to either of them in real time the end of the day talking about Doris spending habits it's like

I would be like why don't we talk about the burkin that she bought from her book advance

like that's where I would go with like shopping problems and not like the five k spending at love shack fancy I literally wrote in my notes like Kyle wants to have this conversation what is

“the conversation gonna be I think you're poor what would say like I think you're living outside”

of your means and why do I know that because PK showed me the bank account like I just think that Kyle thinks she's being caring but she's fainting concern like there is not an ounce in her that really cares about Doris at this point because as you've said Kyle doesn't like her it just I just but I don't know why Kyle wants to take this move on it doesn't make her look

good in any capacity and she likes to look good always you know I will say the flashbacks of

Erica when she was drinking on her anti-depressants and oh my god it kind of forgot about all that like that wasn't tough season and Lisa Rina mentions this in her book too because they were talking about kind of grief situations whenever and she was like she and Erica are still friends and I was there for her that season because I could tell the tough stuff that she was going through when they did all these flashbacks like oh my god I totally forgot about all of this

and Lisa had said she didn't drink that season because she knew she needed to help out Erica and she didn't want to be like foggy yeah and go back to this Kyle's just it's just like making it really hard for me to like Doris like oh now it is just say it in number 12 exactly we have to go to the airport why are there three separate groups why can't we all fly together why do we have to go to this place again that's the private sweets how does Natalie

get there because I remember Bo it was Bo's son Kyle and Amanda and then all the sudden Natalie just shows up I was like where did Natalie come from I swear she wasn't on that plane with them you know she was there she's because she was wearing these black jeans and I kept thinking why would you wear jeans for about 14 hour trip true yeah I don't think they're flying direct from Florence they're probably flying to like Rome or if you're telling your

flying to like Switzerland and then you're connecting jeans just seems so aggressive so then it's Erica Doris and Rachel all going together this anti-climactic moment that Dorit makes the plane and then Hobbit Kathy in Jennifer the Kathy forgetting her phone on the plane and her Kyle talking about her iPad being a national and all over the world is just classic Kathy but like how come she's not worried about Kathy but she's worried about Dorit forget her

passport but Kathy can lose her iPads you can lose her phone and that's just Kathy also it's really

“wild we never talk about Kim never never never I think it's okay I feel like that's like in”

their contract we're not talking about Kim yeah I think for Kim that's good what did you think about Sutton saying I will sleep with Amanda what did you think what what is her get with this like why did she choose to do this okay so on the after show Amanda talks about

the fact that Sutton before they filmed this scene they basically had the same conversation

off camera and Sutton saying I'm going to try to be nice to her I think it was for screen time there was there was definitely a move here and I think it was also a better understanding because I think she reflected and realized maybe I didn't look so great at Amanda's house coming at her at her own event where Sutton reflected back was like got it that was me I'd be like live it I been in this position before she I'm going to give her one more chance and say that I did it and

if from there it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out but at least I can try to like make

“a men's and then try to usher her into this group I also feel like she's like you have to stand up”

to do read and use your big girl voice and start a fight on this trip if you want to be friends you know what I mean or if you want to fit into this group you need to stop using your baby voice and yell at some girls we got to get into a couple cat fights we're in Italy this is the big cast trip you better make a splash girl I also think she feels accepted by the other group now and so she has the backing to talk to Amanda in a way where she can say here's how you

get to where I am or she just felt like more confident because everybody hates Amanda so that she can then also get the story straight away and run over to the rest of them and tell the what was said I like that theory but yeah they're didn't feel like a little bit of coaching here a little bit of a boot camp like Amanda this is what you got to do to be a Beverly Hills housewife I would also

done because sentence literally giving her advice and Amanda's not taking it she's like well just so

“you know it's an informed opinion because I went to college and I got a degree and so I know how”

children work when it comes to divorce and so I'm educated in this and so it's informed and

instead of just being like okay I'm taking what you're saying I should have a 101 combo like

it wasn't as if she was being receptive towards it it was almost like well let me tell you where I'm coming from I thought when she said that she was gonna say Kyle told me all of this stuff

“she just isn't taking the bait but I don't even think she knows it's bait I think she's right”

I'm so smart like I thought she was gonna say my informed opinion was because Kyle told me everything that was going on so I agreed with her and then was able to speak towards it because of what Kyle said

“and then my lunch from Doree and said she's like let me pull out my degrees and let's not forget”

she came on this show to get her business to a different spot to get her business you know people interested in it so I feel like at the same time she's like I can't lose my cool as this like man a fester as this person that people look up to like I can't get into cat fights

she I feel like she went into the show knowing I'm never gonna lose my cool I'm gonna stay

calm and collected and speak like baby now do you think her business has improved since being on the show absolutely not what do you think considering signing up well maybe on that note I'll let you go so you could get paperwork going I'm gonna start manifesting bye everyone bye