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- Welcome back to Two Judging Girls. This is Mary from the Bad! And it's Courtney from L.A. emergency emergency. Okay, you guys this morning. I text Mary and I say, "Hey, Mary, let's do our Patreon
first before we do summer house.
Just in case something comes out." Mary tells me, "I have our schedule completely wrong today and I'm like, I'm sorry, I had, there was an incident in my neighborhood this morning through me all off. Anyways, then as we are recording our Patreon,
thank you Mary for being so flexible of changing our schedule, last four minutes of the Patreon, I said, "Mary, Mary, there's breaking news." I was too calm for it. I think because it was a shock value,
your reactions say it all. This joint statement for West and Amanda has been released. - I mean, I guess Bravo and Cocktails was right. There was a joint statement. It was just a day later than we expected.
Okay, read it out again because when I'm also a visual learner, you have an in front of you? - Yes, I do, I do. - Okay. We need an important day. Both of them post on their stories
for 24 hours. It's like, at this point, just make it a collab post because it's actually crazy that you think you're gonna put something in your stories and it'll disappear in 24 hours. (laughing)
Also? - The plastered. - Do you think they wrote this together? Do you think someone wrote it for them? Is it a, I, what do you think?
“I think that there's some chat, GBT in the mix.”
I think that they had a lot of their team look at it. I would not be surprised if Bravo's also involved. - Oh, okay, okay. - Because the rumor is right now is that there's kind of a gag order on the cast to not talk anything publicly
until the reunion, that's the rumor. But let's just get through the statement and then let's break it down. We can go paragraph by paragraph and break it down after two. - I can't wait.
And by the way, the use of we, okay. We've seen the growing online speculation. So while this is still very new, we wanted to provide some clarity.
It was never our intention to purposely hide anything.
Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved and the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show, we needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it. We've shown up for each other as friends over the years
through all the highs and lows and what's developed recently was the last thing either of us expected. Our connection grew out of a genuine longstanding friendship
“which made it especially important for us”
to approach this with care. As our feelings evolved, we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling. We also recognize that this has it had an impact beyond justice and never wanted our actions to cause any her or be perceived
as careless. We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this.
So we've had our first impression
because we read it live on our Patreon episode, but you were like, "Oh my God, oh my God, I need to decompress in process." So where are you at with this? - I mean, they are admitting something is going on.
It's almost like at this point, in my mind, what has happened is they probably hooked up drunk a few times. People have gotten wind of this and now they had to sit down and confront the situation and who knows where their heads at with their relationship.
Like, are they just like hooking up? Is it friends with benefits? But now it feels like they have to date each other. Like, I said this yesterday in my mind, I'm like, they have blown up so many people's lives
in this. I mean, the current state of summer house were mid-season. Are you even interested in summer house because the whole story over there is Kyle and Amanda getting a divorce,
which is going to lead into the city. So are you even invested in that? I'm not. I don't care as much anymore 'cause this is so much juicier and happening right now.
It's like too little too late. It's old news to me which is crazy. And I also, I'm genuinely like, you guys,
“you have to get married and have babies now.”
I mean, they have blown up their entire lives in so many people's lives around them. Like, because people aren't gonna care about these shows as much because of this new stuff. And I'm genuinely concerned for them
as a professional level.
There is so many complications that goes along with this.
And I'm like, and is this just like, did you guys cook up like five times drunk? Like, I don't know. - No, Mary, so the statement to me reads, we need to see how fans are reacting
before we decide what the label of this relationship is. Now they're using this as we because obviously it's the two of them with everything. But it's like, they're saying, hey, you know, we can't not address this.
The more time that goes on, we were able to get away from it
with when it first came up in March.
And if you guys remember, too, that dropped on like a Friday, I think. And I remember West posting a story after Doomwah had posted. And I responded to the story.
And I said, your DMs are about to blow up. Because he's, remember he was acknowledging that he's online, so he's seeing the speculation, but also not acknowledging it all. And we're like, okay, you know, if you deny it
and do it whatever. And then he had responded, oh, this is so annoying. And I was like, to me, I was thinking, well, that is kind of a denial of the whole thing. But it wasn't a denial.
It could also just be this is annoying that my spot's being blown up. I think what's crazy is with this statement is the fact that one, they're not even saying they're dating right now.
I think what you're saying is that they're admitting something has happened physically. The words, the last thing we expected and feelings evolved. That tells me, yeah, of course they've hooked up.
I mean, everyone thought it. But I'm like, who, who did you guys talk about this with? That was such a bad choice. That was horrible. What do you mean choice of hooking up with each other
or releasing the statement and saying that? Obviously everything, but there's a lot of bad choices. Choice number one, you shouldn't have slept together. Okay, so maybe you did.
“But you should have not told one person about that.”
Like, I'm not kidding you. Have a grave. This should have gone to the grave. It obviously did not. I wonder how it started like trickling out.
I wonder how Kyle actually found out about it. How Sierra actually found out about it. I mean, they've been taunting us the last few days. Even Kyle's stories yesterday, he posted one story yesterday and he was walking and he heard like three gunshots.
And he said something in his story. He's just giving like little sprinkles, little nuggets, little Easter eggs.
And he said like, well, that's the first time
that's ever happened to me. And then he goes and picks up both the dogs, which I felt it was like confirming Amanda's out of town. That's why I have both of the dogs because they each separately have dogs.
Then he posts the Sierra photo of them together. You know, they're giving us all these little nuggets along the way. And I would love to know who actually told Kyle about this because this is really hard.
I mean, who actually sat down with Sierra and told her about this? Did they just hear the rumors like through page six, TMZ or did close friends come to them? What happened?
I'd love to know the timeline too. This to me also the statement, the timelines are not that long to me.
“I think people are going to be now watching these episodes”
and trying to see any sort of clue they can grab about their relationship. And I personally think, if this has been going on since last summer, that is crazy
because you're letting this man basically play you
again Amanda, you're being played by another man by not putting any sort of title, which there's no title here, right? So if you're telling me it from last summer, this is when it started evolving, no.
To me, that's crazy. It's been like eight months, that's not happening. But I also think too, it's been a couple of months. And I think maybe when the first thing happened in March and people were starting to get wind of it
and we've said too, what are the photos that are out there? Like what evidence is there to support this because if we can deny it, then we don't have to say anything. But if it's starting to like mount up and up and all of a sudden, there's gonna be ways that we can't deny it.
Are we now just trying to like lean into it and say, well, maybe we should test the waters because I don't know where this is going and this is going to blow up. We've seen scandal, we've seen other situations like this.
What do we do now? We do like each other. I don't see West committing to a relationship.
“Personally, I think he likes to be a single guy,”
have his fun. I think Amanda was doing that too, a single hot girl summer, enjoying herself. And now that it's blown up, they have to choose a lane. And the lane, I was thinking,
if they just came out and said, look, we hooked up once drunk and late, it was nothing.
I thought, what would the fan reaction be to that?
Would people be less or more forgiving on that
and saying like, oh, well, it doesn't mean anything. They're just friends, no big deal. Or would they go ride harder for Sierra, Kyle, the dynamics of these relationships? It really is a guessing game in a way.
And the way that you don't have anyone guesses by not doing it, but since we're here, I mean, it definitely feels like they're soft launching a relationship because they have to or because they want to. Because they have to.
Yeah, because they have to. I wonder that snow day is in my mind. I think that's when it all started.
“I think that was the day it probably went down.”
This reunion is going to be insane. They're probably filming that rather soon.
We're already halfway through the season.
I've heard it's like in like three weeks. Like this upcoming week, it's not the following week. It's the week after that is what I've heard. Will they still even be together by the reunion? That's what I'm wondering.
What's the fan reaction going to be? Is it, okay, well, they better get married and then we'll support this and blah, blah, and go that route, which I think we said with scandal, too, is like when it came to Ricale and Tom, Tom, I think saw it.
We have to go full in and then Ricale and her family like pulled her back and we're like, you've got to get out of this completely. You cannot be a part of this. So do you go the route of, we're going to be serious.
Or do you come to the reunion, say, hey, we're together, but because people are kind of not okay with it, but they're like, whoa, okay, whatever. And then do you quietly part ways after the fact? What does it change with the show?
There's so much going on because when you spoke about families, like could you imagine having to explain this to your parents and then it all over the news?
And also, we have never known Amanda without a guy.
We have never seen her without a man. We won't. I mean, she's already attached herself to West. I can't. Are they actually, are they hold up in LA together
in a hotel room just avoiding the world?
“When are we going to get their first picture together?”
I'm freaking out. What are the clues? Okay, so right now, Sierra has blocked both of them. I went and I checked, they're not following. And then like the comments are removed
because the tagged photos all that. So I know it's been blocked. We've gotten a kind of some first-hand account of Sierra in New York, like not having a good day. Mia's on to follow them.
It's like, okay, this is obviously the huge shit storm. They have kind of ruined these brand deals. This is costing them business decisions and life decisions and the people that they surround themselves with. I think for Amanda, she might get some different brand deals,
maybe less for me, it just feels like there was more to sacrifice on West and which is why I was having such a hard time believing it. What were they thinking? They were both at the top, after last week's episode,
Amanda, separating from Kyle, West defending her, him being able to get back in the good graces of fans. They sat on that hill and they rolled all the way down. It's just crazy too because the repercussions of this, I guarantee you, they are getting pulled out of brand deals.
What is the future of the show at this point?
“I think honestly, Kyle, I think is going to get to go to the summer house.”
He's going to get to go to the Hamptons. And I don't think West and Amanda will be invited. So I almost need the opposite, Mary. I actually, like, see, I don't like our house. She goes to in the city, Kyle stays in the city,
West and Amanda go to the summer house. And they get the primary. If Amanda wanted to come back and get the primary, I feel like they just asked people, and they would have given it to her. I don't think she needed to hook up with West to do so.
I feel just so terribly fur-seer in this. And people like, they haven't even dated. Is it really that big of a deal? It's like, yeah, it is a big deal because one, we're watching this summer back right now.
They're reliving this as the episodes come on. Two, imagine the betrayal from this friend who you have put on a pedestal that you're so much better than the way you're being treated. I want the best for you.
I'm crying for you. I want you to know that your self-worth needs to be so much higher than what you've given yourself. I am your biggest cheerleader. Amanda literally quoting saying,
"I could not get through the summer without having a loyal friend like Sierra." It was like, "Let me just let the season change and things change." It's just the implications are so insane.
I just cannot imagine a drunken hook-up,
which I think is how it first started.
Wherever it is now is where it is, was worth it. And I said Amanda's inner self-sabotage era because she doesn't give a fuck clearly of like who she's hurting. West is this fuckboy for them to do it. Diabolical!
Diabolical.
“Where do you think Jesse Solomon is gonna stand on all of this?”
Why don't all this? I think he's defending Sierra. I think he'll forgive West and put a quotes around that because boys just like deal with things so differently. Like I can even see Kyle being like whatever.
Kyle right now is where I think, guys. I've had some bad weeks and you guys are really helping me out. I mean, people are saying, "I will go buy lover boy." For Kyle now. He's gonna get himself out of debt because of this.
Let's take a break and we'll be right back. What if I just like and think about the reunion so much? What if the couch next to Andy is like two catches just filled with the entire cast and then on the other side is two chairs and it's just Amanda and West.
Like Andy is sitting so far to the left because the circle is the rest of the cast and the two of them. Yeah. It's like, okay, there was this rumor too that Carl hosted at Soft Bar last night a running club and KJ was there.
And that as I mentioned before is they're really not supposed to talk to any publications, you know, no statements, none of that. But that they were chit chat in there and that they were both confirming
it was true and basically posted their reactionary photos
so that people knew where they stood. I also want to know too the thought process on Amanda and West
“because they had to address this at this point, right?”
Like where they spoke, there was fire. They couldn't wait till tomorrow. Everyone's like, "Oh, it's a prank. It's an April Fool's joke." We would love for it to be a prank because you don't want to think
that these people are inherently bad and you want to find the good and you're liking them, watching them on the show. And like if you've met them or interacted with them, they've probably been absolutely lovely. But at the same time, if it's a prank,
why is it at the expense of their friends, both Kyle and Sierra? And the whole cast, too, of jeopardizing this sort of thing. They were clearly forced into this statement. Yep. I wonder by who?
Bravo? My thing people were probably pressured and you guys have got to say something this is actually getting ridiculous. And the amount of pain, honestly, that you're putting other people through with your hasty decisions and like your dumb choices,
like guys, smart people makes stupid choices too. I just, I keep thinking West especially had everything. He had already gone through the trenches the first time around with Sierra. He had made his way back in. He was going to be that line from the women to sports.
He had it in the palm of his hand. Amanda, we were rooting for you. West, we were rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.
“Where do you think this relationship is actually going to go?”
And all honesty. Like, are they going to date for a year? Will this turn into a marriage? Will this turn into a baby? Is are they going to Jersey?
I mean, I think if they want to be on the fan side is that they're dating maybe we've got a publicly beat together, it also becomes now, too, is this Bonnie and Clyde situation? I think about scandal. And I know, by the way, I still do not think this is the level of scandal.
I think this is just, you know, people are calling it a man, of all, it's Westside story. I think it's, you know, whatever it is, thankfully at this point, of what we do know, again, quotes around no, is that it's really just hurtful because it's Sierra's X.
And they're obviously trying to figure out boundaries and how to get back to a better friendship. And hopefully at this point, Amanda and Kyle were separated. I think they were separated long ago at the end of last year, and their statement was just before the season started,
not the day they separated. But it's like, obviously, people who's feelings are involved, but doesn't to me feel like it's cheating. Absolutely not. I don't think it's cheating.
I don't think there was any overlapping. I'm more wondering, is this true love? Are they meant to be together? Are they just being reckless and careless and not thinking and drunkenly hooking up?
I don't know, you know? The statement not having a label and just being we want to figure out. I mean, people still think like, could this be the bubble of wild wings prank? And it's like, no, it's not a prank.
Here's, okay, here's what a question I have though.
Let's just say for some reason, it's some weird brand deal. It's abs, there's no, okay. - I understand. - I understand. - Okay. - For 10, hypothetically. It is a weird brand deal, and tomorrow on April Fool's,
they decide to say, ha ha guys, why would they risk their reputations to do that?
I mean, you gotta tell me that they're making $50 million.
A piece, but realistically,
like, what's the point of doing this as a brand deal to ruin friendships? And then they're like, oh, well, maybe Sierra was paid to block them. But this is a pretty elaborate scheme of getting us, like, does the fandom forgive them for that?
- It's, no, this is not a prank. I know it's that you're saying hypothetically, but like, this is the real deal, and they couldn't release the statement tomorrow, 'cause people wouldn't think it was a prank.
This is really happening. This is their real life.
“I think that snow day kicked things off.”
I think they've probably really enjoyed sneaking around. There is like a high off of that. Now, ask you a question. - Mm-hmm. - Now, knowing what we know with that
watch what happens live statement from West and thoughts on that, I wanna get. But then my statement, I wanna add to that is, when we say you really don't know these people, like, not that I think he's a good liar,
but he straight-up lied to everyone there. Although, I still don't know if he lied or if he said, we better make a statement and now I have to marry you. - Like, but what do you think about that now? - I was giving him grace saying,
oh, he never does well at a reunion,
and he doesn't like confrontation. And we said he was so nervous at it. Well, now we know why he was so nervous, because they were hooking up. He said you're fucking liar, come here.
(laughs) He knew he was gonna have to answer all these questions.
“So that's why he was going back and forth”
in the chair of the whole time, because he was waiting for it. Do you think it's crazy? So, you know, the Rhode Island premiere happened last night, and Dolores was asked about it. And she's like, I'm not even gonna comment on that,
but Sierra is my girl, and I have her back. And I'm like, oh, Patterson. (laughs) Oh, Patterson's coming out. They better watch out, but they also asked Andy,
and Andy's like, I have like no other news. And I keep thinking back to that Chicago show where, you're thinking back as like Saturday. But where Andy was like, I really don't think so based on a conversation I had with West,
and like, people are such good liars, or I keep thinking too, is for him it was a hookup that wasn't gonna go any further, and they were having fun. Were they gonna wait, just talk about it at the reunion? A giant bomb.
That's what I was wondering too, where they trying to get through the reunion, hopefully just get it filmed, not have to address it. It was gonna kind of get buried.
They thought by March when that first came out
that they were able to bury it, nobody got a clue, and then this rumor from that snark bait had talked about with somebody meeting up with Sierra to show her the photo, was it like, it's actually a irrefutable now. Like, you can't deny this.
It is 100% the truth. There's no way that you could say this, you know, we said yesterday. Can you say it was a hug? Can you say it was like a kiss on the cheek that somebody caught? And then I'm thinking, I need to know more about the peeping tom.
How do they get the photo in the apartment? You little peeper? Okay, serious question. Okay, will you be able to forgive Amanda and West?
“So that's why I'm saying this statement is important”
to the fan reaction, because that's where the relationship with them. I think lies. If the fans are like, well, they'd be cute together, because I'm already starting to see that too, right? Like, oh, you know, actually Amanda West do seem
like a better couple than Amanda and Kyle or Sierra West, which is like, okay, whatever, but if people are gonna start forgiving them in that sense of like, oh, they're together, then they're like, okay, let's commit because the fans will accept us that way.
If the fans are going to like freak out at them, does it pull them apart? Rekellen, Tom, style, and they just circle the drain. What do you think? I don't even like comparing it to scandal,
because I don't believe there was any cheating. I just meant the relationship status between Rekellen, Tom, like Tom thought we have to be together, and she said, no, let's end this, and the repercussions of not being together,
I think might have been worse than if they pretended to stay together. So, I think that people will be a little bit more forgiving for them because no cheating, yes, okay, okay. I personally am not gonna be able to forgive them.
I just can't, I can't remember very washed her face. It's just, it's too weird, there's too many people in the world, you have many, many, many, many, many options. And for Amanda to go for her friends,
Guy is so strange, and then for West to do this to Kyle,
is not okay. I just think there's too many fish in the sea, and it's just wrong. It's just wrong.
“I think for you what I think upsets you to,”
and I was kind of deeming with real moms of Bravo, who are pretty close to West because they have their Midwest connection. And I was like, I'm actually, I feel bad, because I think this is going to, you know, we say, you don't know these people, but when you do interact with them,
and like we spent the day on the boat with West, and he was so fun, and then it's like, they do something like this, you're like, oh, I actually don't know who you are. I thought that you were, you know, Mary, we were in that New York Times article, you know,
I think it's just, you don't know these people at the end of the day, and you want to see the good and everyone, and you wish that these things wouldn't happen, and then you think, like, those people could do that to people in their lives, like, that's crazy.
It's just the whole thing is wild. I also, everyone makes mistakes. I want to be a forgiving person, but I think what they've done to the shows is actually crazy. I'm genuinely concerned about the city,
'cause I don't think people will be very invested in it, because of this. They've got to re-edit it now, I'm focused on the other characters, and maybe this is a positive for Lindsay, that she'll get more of the spotlight.
Here's a question I have for you. Are they going to pick up cameras for reactions prior to the reunion? If we have a couple of weeks, are we re-jiggering the season finale to do reactions, or are we going to open with the reunion with reactions,
or are we going to wait for first reactions as a group together at the reunion?
In my fantasy world, cameras are rising. Cameras are going up right now, and, you know, I can even take an iPhone footage, and they can film themselves, and just kind of talking to their iPhones. I mean, like, I can't even believe what happened today,
and this is like the first 15 minutes of the reunion, and then we didn't sit down together. It doesn't need to be much. Yeah, I don't know if we need it in the season finale. I think, especially too, because I was thinking, like, the season finale of what we think is going to happen
is leaving the summer house and going into the city, right?
“And then that's how we start the next show.”
But at this point, it's like, we've really got to change how everything ends. We have to do some pickup shots. I think it makes sense to start the reunion out like that. I am very nervous for them at the reunion.
We've already said West does not do reunions well.
Amanda's never had to defend herself,
because she's always had a partner with Kyle or whoever. It's going to be, here's a note, though. When it comes to this, and we saw it with Skandival, it's like, Lala and James went to a degree where I was like, Ariana, I understood her anger, it happened directly to her.
Obviously, like, James is kind of the Kyle here, right? But the anger that they had was really off putting to see them go after them. I'm like, I just need, like, everyone to have the right amount of anger and upset and disappointment, but to also recognize that, like, you need to actually just sit in silence to to let them answer.
True, however, they could potentially have ruined people's jobs. Like in a big, big way. Oh, 100, I guess I'm just saying with the reunion is like, don't go to Lala route, because Lala was taking her anger of a projection with Randall and then doing all she did, and then she turned on Ariana the next season,
because they made her film. I mean, it is true.
“It's like, how do you look at the next filming schedule?”
I also love to know, too. It was like, after the first time that they hooked up or whatever happened,
where they like never again, and then they're like, oh my God,
we're like magnets, we're so attracted to each other, and it happened, or it's just like, what is the timeline? I think a lot of drinks were involved, a lot, not a clear mind. Not that it makes it okay, we're just trying to figure out what was the timeline, what were they thinking?
The rumors that they were in Corona, Delmar, they went to another bar, they were all over each other. No, I didn't ask that. Yeah, one of my friends just sent it to me that they were at CDM at that restaurant, Ross Child, and they went to this other bar malar keys, which is like a dive bar
in Newport, and we're like all over each other, but I'm like, at that point where they were like, we're going to have to address this at some point. Sierra already knows, like, might as well hook up and have fun. Good. One more break, and we'll be right back.
What do you do if you're the other cast right now? Don't say anything to the press. Don't talk to the press. Like, is there emergency meetings at the end of the day? I think going to the reunion too, I think Kyle is actually going to be more upset on
Sierra's behalf than the betrayal to him.
Oh, no way.
He is just, I think he is just excited.
Excited. Yes, this helps him so much. This helps him so much. We are not even really thinking about the way that he spoke to a man to all. We don't even care about their breakup anymore.
This is better than the breakup. Okay. When we were on the boat with both of them, I know hookup happened yet. Like, I keep thinking about that.
Was like, he was wearing his ring, correct?
Yes.
“Did he find out about the hookup and that's when he started to remove his ring?”
Had the hookup already happened there? Was West playing in his face at that point? Like, the whole thing is so crazy. I really, really though, do not think it happened last summer. I really do think it happened within maybe the past two months.
Even what day was that snow day? And I believe it was definitely February because after the snow day, Kyle and West went out drinking another day.
And so I think at that point West and Amanda had already hooked up and he's just out with
Kyle all day. He's been played in your face. I think part of the problem, too, is that he did redeem himself. And it's like a fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And now it's like, you've kind of made your audience feel stupid again.
And they don't like that. I, I don't even feel stupid. I can't even believe that they did this. I just cannot believe it. I expected more out of them.
“I think the problem is, too, is I'm just like, you, too, like West and Amanda, like,”
come on, there's the implications are just so strong of how much you're screwing up personally and professionally for a drunken hookup, for instance. Now, obviously, we have to be more, we are figuring it out. And we hope you respect our privacy and understand our patience. We need to figure this out.
It's like, yeah, you do, because I, I don't envy being their teams right now, fielding comments from publications, brand deals. It's the kind of funny that they have these brand deals that have deadlines and post dates and all of this. And so then they have to kind of keep constantly posting without addressing everything. And I mean, I just think that Amazon live.
That said, it all, that was the smoking gun. Okay, West has a podcast, you know, it's called Show Me Something. And he released a new episode today. Yeah, I was going to say they have Tuesday releases. I'm pretty sure, obviously, he's not going to address it. That's, no, that was probably filmed a while back. Yeah, people aren't as timely as two
judgy girls. We're hot off the press. Days at a emergency emergency.
“Now, I think more will start to develop. I mean, I said, I woke up this morning.”
And I was like, do something, like, when are we going to get something? And I knew that, like, I felt like there was a gag order, but I was like, someone just needs to confirm something. If this is real, which, obviously, we had turned. We were trying to hope it wasn't real because we're like, they couldn't be dumb enough to do this. It couldn't be this dumb. And then we were like, no, no, they are.
So then it's like, how many more days can you not address something? Do they go a couple of weeks until the reunion? I hope that they can get through it. Like, there was no way they were going to the reunion. It wasn't going to be addressed. So the statement makes sense. I guess, but also, it's a lot of word salad to say, what do you guys think? I wonder what Amanda's close friends are doing. It's also, it's so dark. Is this going to make our
sorority and kora newsletter? Our DJ sister, Courtney loves to bring up that Amanda. I wasn't all together as well. I'm so sure. Someone's like, I said, I can't believe my DJ sister did this. Not my DJ sister. So do you think the ratings go up on the summer house? Of course! Tonight's episode? Yes. The reunion's going to be like the highest weight rated reunion ever. I do not think this has happened last summer. Now, I will say we have already seen this week's
episode and it really does bum me out because there's a Sierra and Amanda scene and even just like the Sierra and West of it all. They're just small. It's nothing like crazy. But it just has to
Hurt to be like, I supported you.
Maybe not. But we filmed this show together. We are friends. It's not an alliance. I put my trust in the people in this house. We know that Sierra has a hard time trusting people. If I were sure, I would crash out too and it's not because I'm like, oh, I'm sad that my ex and my friend have hooked up. It's like, I'm sad about the betrayal and the trust and the lying to my face. Think about it when that rumor came out and West posted that photo of Sierra at Lindsay's house
“with Gemma. How dare you play me in my face like that and make me feel stupid? How dare you?”
Try to get the heat off you. Like showing everything's okay. Everything's okay. But it just cuts so much deeper. I think with Amanda and Sierra. Completely. It's like the betrayal of that friendship. You can say relationships with men come and go but like your friends are truly the sounds so stupid but like sex in the seas. Like maybe your friends are your soulmates and the matter of the people we date. You almost expect West to disappoint you in a way but Amanda,
Amanda. And then I don't want to be like harder on the girl than the guy because I don't like that either. They're both completely wrong. But at the end of the day, I think the most hurt here is Sierra and that's because I'm for friendship with Amanda. Good for her protecting your piece, blocking both of them. I can't imagine like being her because also too it's like how many times did they deny it to her? How many times did they say nothing's going on? How many times did they tell
that cast this is so silly? I came and believe this is a rumor. I think about that first we feast where
Mia like she had a little bit of an attitude towards West and then you know he's like nothing's happened. Everything's fine. At that thing they basically played all of them to their faces. You've said take it to the grave and there was a reason why that's also what's crazy is there's actually still no photographic evidence. It was all here say. But they're clearly has to be something
“they're worried about. I think any black belt. Oh my I mean but that's what I'm saying. It's just”
so crazy but there was something them for the reason of why they couldn't deny it anymore. I said this too. How many times did they have to deny it? West denied it on watch a happens live. Amanda
gone on a podcast and denied it. It was like I'll never date any of my co-stars. It's like oh that
didn't hold up. We were helping them. We were trying to debunk everything. We supported them. Up until yesterday I was still giving it. Let's look at the other side. I will play a devil's advocate to play a devil's advocate even though we knew it's like we all knew and yet. And yet and I have to also shout out Bravo historian because this is something she has thought about for a very long time but was like I think I might be too crazy in this like conspiracy theory
and I texted her and I said I hope you feel it. And I think she said like I'm spiraling but I just
“was like you know what you had wondered this. You had thought this. I told her I said you need to”
put out a complete timeline because you have been sluiting. We need the timeline of like the
purported first and I wasn't the snow weekend. We did it go back further. Where did it go from
innocent to flirting to not so innocent? Who made the first move? Where was it? Where people around? Was it in public? Who knew first from the cast? There are still so many unanswered questions that I needed to. What do you think about Paige though? I feel like this is a very tricky spot for Paige to be in. Hannah posted some video and I didn't watch the video. I just had seen that like Queens of Bravo had reposted pages comment that was like the internet's a crazy place and I was like
I guess we know where Hannah lies. I think she's gonna ride for Sierra. I think she'll try to publicly maybe stay out of it but also at the same time I think like Hannah and Paige as a group lie with Sierra. Like Sierra was at Hannah's bachelor at party. She went to the wedding. Like I think those three are much closer in their girl girls girls girls girls girls girls girls girls. I would actually potentially go against that but not today because I'm Team Sierra in general. I
hope right now and I know this is like hurting Sierra emotionally but I hope she's gonna offer after offer after offer. I hope she has the world at her fingertips. The world is her oyster. I hope she gets some deals that if she wants to leave the show which I don't think as we talked about yesterday she should but she has opportunities to do so much more. She deserves it. She was out last night. She was at the Apple the friends and neighbors premiere with John Ham your guy and she'll have
fabulous. I actually heard she hooked up with John Ham last night. I said you guys I said I want Sierra to date West's favorite athlete. Yes that's good. I want her to find out who his favorite
Athlete is and I want her to post and follow love and Mary and have babies an...
ever and West just has to see it every day. I think how did I get myself a new jersey?
“My life is now living in New Jersey. I've got it. I've got the big one because too and this isn't”
a dig on West but West has been the fun single guy in New York. You go from Kyle who's partying drinking doing too much and you're like I hate this lifestyle. I hate this lifestyle and then you're like I'm in my single era so I'm gonna go out with my friends and have like the best time while I had this hot girl summer and then you're like attaching your wagon to West who let's be real.
He's like kind of like the town flirt and if you think of commitment the first person on that
cast I'm thinking is gonna commit is not West. Something that came across my brain the other day is Jesse Solomon is the next bachelor. He'd be great. I guess I'll start. He's so cheesy. He could really do the bachelor. Jesse and Kyle must be secretly loving this. I try that they don't love that their friend is hurting. I'm not saying that. I'm saying for their own reputations. Right and now
“like I'm like oh it's West and Amanda are they going on house and villains together now?”
I literally was thinking I was like West has got that on lock next season. Yeah they're legit villains now. Are they gonna go on the traitors because we know they're liars and cheaters? I mean it's crazy but what's crazy those I also could see Amanda walking away from like the reality the spotlight. I don't see West doing that as easily. I I think you're giving Amanda too much credit there too. She needs the money. Okay let me refresh this and you brought this up so maybe this is why
I can't comprehend it is that we've never seen Amanda like without Kyle. So it would be
interesting to see what she's like on her own. And do we see that in the city? Do we see Amanda navigating separating from her husband moving into this new place and being Amanda on her own?
“We've never seen that so maybe that's why I can't imagine it. It's just old news to me now.”
I genuinely don't care about the city anymore. This like ruined the city for me. Well I watch of course. I think they have to put cameras back up again. I think they need to almost film another month worth they've got to rework it for sure. I got a problem. Because can you imagine the bravo emails going back and forth right now? Like we have the valley premiering tomorrow. We have real house was of Rhode Island premiering Thursday. What are people talking about the summer house?
Are they in trouble at bravo? They screwed a lot of people up. They did. They're a lot up. You can't help who you love. Okay can't help it. Oh god. I think we've talked at nauseam which we could go for another hour but let's stop ourselves now. If anything comes out we'll be talking about it tomorrow. I mean this is just crazy. This is like an emergency pod. Hot off the press. Stay tuned. We'll be back tomorrow. Bye. Bye.
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