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- Welcome back to Tujerji Girls.
This is Mary from the Bay. And it's Courtney from LA. And I mean, you think you'd get a weekend off, and they said, "I don't think so." This summer house news is just,
and by news, I mean, there's kind of a lack of news, everything is speculation, assumptions, rumors, no actual evidentiary support here. But it's the internet sleuths are a working overtime. I mean, we have matching hats, sweatshirts,
unnappkin moments. Let's talk about everything. - Okay, let's start there, because I do have some questions about things, because now it's like, this is kind of like what happened with Skandval on a wave,
“you start going backwards looking for clues, right?”
Is there a possibility here with the hats specifically,
because Amanda is wearing it in the first episodes
of this season at the country fair. Amanda's wearing this camo hat, West was then wearing the same hat later, and then Amanda wore it to like a batches interview later down the line. So I think within this has been like six plus months
of this one hat. Is it possible they were sent the same PR? I agree with that with the hat. The sweatshirt is a little more sus for me. I'll tell you why it's weirdly sus,
but I can also potentially give a reasoning for it. So it's a ramy wolf, which I would say is ramy wolf is a smaller artist, and I don't feel like Amanda listens to. It's definitely West's sweatshirt. Amanda was wearing it, where are we at that location?
It looks like we're in someone's apartment. Is it West's apartment?
“And it's cold, and she's asked for a hoodie there”
while the group is all hanging out. - Yeah. - I'm just trying to play both sides here, because it looks to be that it could be true, and that it's leaning more towards being true than not, but I'm also just trying to poke holes
so that we can play both sides here. Courtney, I appreciate your investigative journalism and you playing both sides. The confirmation for me was when Austin posted this story last night that said, "Post it and fucking your friends,
"X's are apparently so back. Why is he inserting himself?" And it just felt like this has to be true if he decided to enter the chat. And then, every intern the chat.
But the Austin thing here, some other questions I'd like to ask you, Mary. Kyle and Austin were together Friday night, maybe Thursday night, Friday night, because Kyle was DJing in Charleston.
There's a photo of Kyle Sally and Austin. Could Kyle and Sally have hooked up? I won. Then just saying, because that would be Austin's x-fling, perhaps, could Kyle have told Austin then,
that something was going on with Amanda and Wes,
like does he have first hand knowledge?
“He was in Chicago and he saw Andy Cohen's thing, right?”
Andy Cohen at the show said, "He believes nothing has happened "between West and Amanda, because he ran into Wes." So it doesn't sound like it was from their watch what happens live interview,
but he had ran into Wes and just Wes, the way he approached it and talked about the situation, it seemed like there was nothing going on. Then Austin posted that and you were like, he has to be bombed.
Oh, he is so excited, that story is gone. Yeah, okay, so then yesterday, what really kind of kicked off everything from Sunday, and unfortunately, we were involved in that. We were involved in that, and let me tell you,
because I was just trying to figure it out, like this loosing, we have no evidence on anything. It's all just us pointing to each other, being like exactly and like hyping each other up and being like, but wait, what about, but wait, what about?
I posted a couple of days ago, and I had said, okay, but the funniest thing about this rumor is how much we care about Sierra's well-being, but none for Kyle. I don't think I've seen a single comment wondering
about how he feels, LOL. So that was from like three days ago, now at this point. And then yesterday, Kyle responds to that with emoji of the blonde guy raising his hand and a sad face.
Now, let me tell you where I was when this happened. I was in IKEA. I was buying some boxes for a bookshelf I had, and I was in IKEA, and I started getting some text messages
Being like, oh my god, oh my god.
I'm like, what happened now?
Is it bravo-related or my personal life? I don't know. (laughing) Like the scariest thing is when you start to get an influx of messages, and you don't know why. Your wrist starts vibrating, 'cause your watch is going off,
and you're like, oh my god. Yeah, oh god. And so then I see that, and I'm like, oh my god. And I'm like, okay, what does this mean? Is that confirmation from Kyle, or does he want us to think
about him? I know, I almost felt like it was like, yeah, people check on me, I'm sad too. At the end of the day, I just, this has to be true. If Kyle gets out of this unscathed,
you know, his abhorrent behavior over the season, and somehow he still wins, like, oh god, that guy.
That guy's played, is he the leak?
(laughing) Also, I bet Lindsey Hubbard is beyond pissed, because people were gonna watch the city, because they want to see Kyle and Amanda, how this transpires, we know they're gonna get a divorce,
the separation, that was gonna be a major plot point, but this is like completely Trump to that. Like, I'm like, okay, they're separated, they're done. Like, I'm over that now, I'm not invested in that story anymore, which is gonna be the entire city.
So, Lindsey Hubbard is live it, I imagine. Of course she is, because she, yesterday,
“posts a photo with Sierra, is this a current photo?”
Is Lindsey just posting something to let you know that she's team Sierra, what does this mean? And then, hours later, Lindsey posts a story, which was her reaction to Amanda on the show,
had said that Kyle was out of fans' house till 5.30 a.m.
And that's it, that's what she posts. Everyone's like, what the hell does this mean? What is going on? Is it Team Sierra? Like, what is she reacting to?
Well, she posts that after Austin's posts. So, to ask more questions, Mary. Is she saying, Sierra told me all the gossip, I know everything, because as we talked about on Fridays episode, there's a random photo from inside Amanda's apartment
and Sierra met up with the person. Is she posting a reaction to what the hell is Austin doing trying to involve himself? Is she just posting, because she wants to be in the mix? Lindsey is smart, she's a powerhouse PR person.
She wants to be in the mix. I doubt it's a reaction to Austin's, but maybe I'm wrong, that's an interesting theory. - These are just questions I want to start out there for people to answer to themselves.
But then Carl does one and KJ. And it just is like, what's going on? - This is happened, this has happened. - For me, on Friday, I was like, it was a kiss. It was a kiss, it was only a kiss.
- Now I know this is bright side. - Did you wash your face? - This is washed, it's washed. - Yeah.
“- When Lindsey posted that, I was like, what the hell?”
Because I believe her and Sierra had dinner last night. That picture I think was in real time. I think they had dinner. Lindsey got the information she said, Sierra. I'm a PR maven, as you've said,
we are going to take them down. She's gotten confirmation of the information. She knows what's up. She's ready to clock in. As you said, they're not gonna ruin my show,
either of them, and they're not gonna hurt my new bestie Sierra, who we've really come from zero to 100 on our relationship. The whole thing is very wild, because then in the back of my mind, I was like, April falls is on Wednesday.
Are we getting pranked? You're like, put up a threat. Are we getting pumped? What is happening? The problem must be freaking out.
Like, no one is allowed to say a word until the reunion. No one can go on podcasts, nothing. I feel like this is like, everything is shut down. This reunion is going to be insane.
So nobody from Summerhouse is on Watch What Happens Live this week. I think it is a coincidence. I don't think that that was like a plan thing. I will say, once Carl posted, I was like, wait, what?
And then when KJ posted, I was like, huh, and that to me felt like something weird is going on, but I can't tell if we're being played as the whole cast, or if it's just a random West that are playing all of us, we are being played somehow
by some part of this cast. What are these group chats?
“What are the side texts that are happening right now?”
There's also a rumor that DuMau posted, which I know we're not supposed to believe DuMau,
Maybe they are correct in this instance,
that both Amanda and West responded in Corona, Dalmar.
Near the quiet woman, but everyone is being kind of quiet here, but at this place called Rothschild's, why are they there? Then someone had this really funny theory, and his name is Bobby, and he was making me laugh about this Buffalo Wild Wings theory.
And he said, obviously this is an elaborate ruse for this Buffalo Wild Wings spong con that's gonna come out AB Amanda Betula, AB Buffalo West Wilson Wild Wings, ABWW, okay? Carl, a Buffalo Wild Wings ambassador,
is this a whole thing. The crazy part about it all
“is that the only thing of why I have to believe”
that there is some truth to this is because Sierra is the driving force. I don't think she would ever at her own expense, let this play out to be a sponsorship even if she's getting paid for it.
I don't think she would want to be embarrassed,
her changing the life, could it have been a scheduling issue? Maybe either of them come out and said, "Oh, this is a scheduling issue." Like, at this point, there's nothing for Sierra to say because it's not her responsibility to put a statement out
about what two people who she thought were her friends might not be her friends anymore. Amanda could have said something, West could have said something, and as we said on Friday,
is the word dating a key word as opposed to hooking up. Courtney, at this point, I think they have to get married, because they're going to have no friends. They're only going to have each other. But this is going to get confirmed.
Something definitely happened,
and I really am curious what the discourse will be, because of this, I just expected more out of these two people, and sure, are they both single people? Yes, but there's too many friends involved, and you just don't do this kind of stuff.
It's really upsetting and sad, and we didn't want to believe it, and I do believe it now. I want to know more details. Or are they dating? Do they just hook up?
Are they friends with benefits? Well, I was wondering, was West's appearance on "Watch What Happens" live when he said, "We are just friends. I want to make that clear." Was that a message to Amanda?
Like, letting her know that we might have hooked up at one point, but we aren't, you know, there's so many questions. And then, yeah, of course, we're going to be sluths to try to figure out the details, something that came across my mind for March madness.
“I'm like, was Amanda the one that sent us all the photos from West's messages?”
I mean, I just sort of think crazy thing. There was a blind item, of course, that was from like, last June of 2025, that was like, this seasonal reality star is cheating on her partner. Okay, well, let's see, seasonal realities are summer house.
Who's the only person in a relationship in the house? Amanda, who else would it be on that cast? And these are blind items, so who knows what's like really true? I think a lot of people just say things and throw it against the wall and see what sticks. I just would love to know the timeline of it.
They keep talking about this joint statement. Like, bravo cocktails was like, expected joint statement. I'm like, "What are they going to say?" Like, doing a hygiene lab post, we were like, "Hey, guys, we hooked up and it was fun."
Oh, hey, people, magazine. Do you mind putting a statement together for us? Oh, let's go on the vial files. And go ahead and let people know we're together. I just don't know where they go from here because even if it was something
of a drunk and make out, the fandom is so far gone from what could be reality to what people have purported to be. What do you think? Tell you where they need to go. Into hiding.
“You need to get to West's parents' ranch and hide out for a very long time and get married apparently.”
That's why they're playing in our faces if something's true. They're in Corona, Don't Mart together. No, it was said that they were with friends. But like, you're going to do that and then play on it. Like, if that was something I wasn't involved with,
I feel like I'd probably go into hiding or just separate myself from the situation a little bit more. As we've talked about, West has been through all this before. And now this will be at a larger scale, unfortunately, because it's here again. The Kyle dynamic of it all. I know we have to think about Kyle, but we haven't.
But that part of it too still, like a friend doing this, okay. Where do they go, like career-wise? Like West had it all in the palm of his hands. He was the guy to bring bravo, especially. It's very large female demographic into the sports world.
He blew it. At this point, if I was them, Denai, Denai, Denai, take this to the grave.
Like, you two know where the bodies are and that's it.
Barry them deeper than six feet.
I would be so curious who if they've actually told anyone. Did do people actually have evidence photos of this, like, I need to know the facts. But if I was them, and I do not lie, I was seriously, I can't lie. It hurts my everything in my body. But this is something.
If it was life-altering, yeah, Denai, Denai, Denai. Well, that's the thing.
“There is, like, supposedly photographic evidence, where is it?”
Or is there a way to see the photo and they're like, okay, we can deny this because we could just, this is a hug. Like, what did you just say? Like, what is actually physical evidence for people that can they then get out of it? Denai, like, what does Sierra really know if this whole thing from last week is true?
Does Sierra have the photo now? Like, I just need to know what's out there. I also need to know, like, who's the leak? I also can't imagine Sierra meaning up with someone to get evidence. That just doesn't feel like her style, but maybe I'm so wrong.
Unless that part is actually a friend, right? I was wrong from the beginning of this. So, as we said, we don't really know these people.
“I think when we look back at Skandvall, and then there's been so many, like, many scandals”
and put in quotes around that, since Skandvall, that you would just think, like, you would learn. Amanda, you would do that to Sierra, especially as people start to bring up things that have come up from their friendship in the past and talking about, like, the fertility thing, even just, like, this season with Sierra's supporting Amanda for getting out of this relationship. Okay, Amanda's in her single area.
I still think she's, like, in her self-sabotage era where she does not care who it affects and is kind of flying at the seam of her pants, whatever. But it's like, Sierra's been there for you, whether or not you're as close as you say you are. At this point, with all of the men that are there and West, like, we like West, but commitment is probably the number one thing I would say would not describe him.
But also West doing this to Kyle, this is his ex-wife, and actually they're not even divorced yet.
Why? It feels achy. It's just too soon for sure. It should never happen, and it's really
going to affect their careers. Well, so that I had two questions for you. One, let's say they waited a year in this happened, like, next summer, and maybe because the show differences of happened, like, Amanda's over on the city, West and Sierra are, like, leading summer house, and let's say in a year we find out, oh, Amanda and West have kind of started dating.
“Would that change it for you with time? I think time would benefit them, but overall, this is”
still just the wrong thing. Yeah, it's like one person you can stay away from. My second question is, and you talked about this on Friday, what does this due to the shows? I'm worried. It's going to be very strange, and I think in some sick world, Sierra is going to end up leaving the shows, and I really, I predict that, and that is not what should happen, but I've weirdly think that is what is going to happen. Yeah, I thought, I thought
the same thing, I think I said that, like, it's really is dependent on Sierra, and then it's kind of, like, I hope two in the way that Ariana's career has, like, skyrocketed, is that, like, this happens for Sierra as well. Like, we know she's gotten these like red carpet hosting gigs. She's been doing some modeling. Like, I would love to just see the attention and energy put towards Sierra for recognizing her skill set and what she can do and like seeing her getting more opportunities,
because I think you're right. It's like, I think the shows are dependent on what Sierra does, because like, West will probably come back. I Amanda's off to the city, and I think that her and Kyle will be as amicable as they can be. I also could see Amanda not coming back to the show either, but that not being as big of a deal. This really screws up a lot of things, because in my
ideal world, this summer, which this is around the corner, we are in April, basically. So they're
going to start filming July 4th, and I wanted to see this summer coming up. It was going to be West, Jesse, Sierra, Mia, KJ, pretty much the same cast. Amanda probably was going to go, I don't know what was going to happen with Kyle. Carl, maybe go. Maybe Sierra will come back and West will not be invited. What should happen is Sierra should go back on summer house. If that's what
She wants to do, and West should not be invited.
career wise. It's also crazy to that this is all coming out where it's like, okay, like you said,
“the reunions like a couple of weeks away, I believe. I just kept thinking, what confirmation are they”
going to give us? They're like kind of going to hiding, but they can't really go into hiding, because the reunions coming. It's probably like, it makes me think of seeing of all that when they were like, we were going to like wait till after the reunion. So we like, didn't embarrass Ariana. It's like, oh my god, you guys are so kind. But like, not have to talk about that. This is obviously going to be a huge source of conversation. We already know that us doesn't do well in unions. We've
never seen Amanda have to bat for herself. What's the seeding arrangement going to be like Amanda
first, then West right next to her? It's like so uncomfortable. And then what does it like Sierra Lindsey? No, I don't. So, okay, okay, it's going to be Andy. And then Amanda West, Jesse,
“Bailey Levi, sure. And then on the other side, it's going to be Kyle first chair. No,”
Sierra first chair. Sorry, Kyle right next to her. Ben Lindsey and Carl and me and KJ. Yeah, oh my god. I love there all the other side. There's just a magic too. There's supposed to be this huge thing with like, Dara Bailey. We don't care anymore. It kind of screws up everything for me, because this feels like what we're watching now feels like really old news. I'm like, we're almost in a new summer. It's old news at this point. I'm like, I don't even care,
Kyle no matter. Don't, I don't need to watch the end of that relationship anymore, because she's gonna do it, man. West Wilson, I want the dirt. We, we're fine with the end of that relationship. But we have to look, watch him yell at her. Okay, we don't care. That's so old news. That's the last week. Geez. It's crazy. It is also crazy because Coachella is coming up and like Sierra
and Jesse always seem to go. I wonder if any of the rest of them were gonna be there. Like,
“there's still events that are happening. I mean, their life is still going like, I got, I would”
kid, like I would literally, my life savings to be in the side chats right now. If I had three wishes Mary, don't be. My number one wish all the summer house different group chats and the bravo group chats. Okay, like from production standpoint, like I need every group chat and one. I'd also like to be the best dancer. So you and I can compete and take the world off with our dance ghosts. 5, 6, 7, 8. And then three. I'd also like unlimited funds because I have a lot
of side hobbies now where I want to spend my money. And I've to pay a life savings to get in the group chat. It's okay. It'll replenish after. These are fantastic wishes. I fully support these three. I hope we need a genie soon. West Wilson is Robin Williams as the genie in Aladdin. We live action Aladdin came to soon. Speaking of wishes and Coachella, I have been shopping on revolve for my Coachella outfits because I do not know what to wear. I have like 150 ideas in my head and
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In the car park.
In such fields it's good to have a good location. Good price and good in the forest. So how do we get the fao? Now we get fao in and out. We get fao. Good for you, and good for you. I have some exciting news. I finally came around to Micah this week. What about Robert Erwin? No, no, no, no. I'm not there. I'm not there. I push too hard. I'm sorry.
“Tell me why. Give me why you finally came around her. I think this idea is actually brilliant.”
I love her mini-manors idea with the puppets. And that was it. That's, I turned. It was all she had to create. It was a children's class and I turned on her. I love her now.
She was always giving face value of who she was, but you couldn't accept that because you're like,
"Nobody can be this real." But then this week you said, "Maybe they can." You do have to question every person now. You truly can't truly do. But then I also appreciated her vulnerability of like saying like, "I'm just like so exhausted." She feels so off-balance. Like she's been working on this for years and years and years, but her husband's like traveling all the time. She has like the weight of the world on her.
I appreciate seeing people vulnerable and not acting perfect all the time. So I got to see that this week with her. So it made me like her more. What I also love the way that she talks about etiquette. She's like etiquette isn't about like being posh or like sobbing. It's really about treating people with kindness and respect. And I thought, "That is such a great outlook. I love the Sesame Street meets etiquette classes." I think that's really fun. I was actually thinking like,
"I wonder if she puts those on YouTube if when Charlie gets older, would you utilize those videos?" Absolutely. I'm all about social emotional learning. So I think this is brilliant. I think it's super cute and I hope it's a nice successful for her. Me too. I think Mike just seems like such a nice person. And I really like, I mean, I have since the beginning. Now, I do worry about liking everybody. It's like I feel like we just need to not like people of your way, not like them and then be proven wrong.
And then be proven wrong again when we turn on us. If something happens with Michael always be like,
I knew it. We're actually trying to convince me. Remember, I didn't like her from the beginning. And then all she did was make up children's etiquette class and it fooled me. I'm not gonna go back to like Western Amanda, but people are like, "I always do. I think did you come on? We all bought into it." He fooled me. He fooled me. I, you guys, she washed her face.
“That's how you know it's serious. Was like, "Can I be honest? I never liked Amanda but”
tool us. All right. Let's get it fully confirmed and then go off with your opinions."
Gosh, who is gonna do the first podcast that's on the cast? I'm just like very curious.
Is it like Sierra on Caller Daddy? Who West has his own podcast? I mean, page has a podcast. Not that she's, but, I mean, come on. Clearly good friends with both the girls. Is she, though? I would love to know the behind the scenes of the relationship. Sorry, guys. I know we're talking about ladies and women, but we have other questions. Okay. But I was thinking, like, I felt like I had heard that Giggly Squad was going to
start doing guests. Is this the first guest is putting Sierra on there? I also don't know that it should be the weight of Sierra having to be the one to confirm it and like discuss it. It does feel like maybe the joint statement does need to happen. I don't know. We, and Carl's podcast now. And Sierra was on it already. So, imagine it with Lindsay on Carl's podcast. Wow. I can't believe Lindsay, Lindsay hasn't made a podcast called activated yet.
“Brilliant. Thank you. I love that activated podcast. That's a good idea. You should”
do you? I'm sure she's not thinking about anything else right now. Lindsay, I just thought maybe you could launch a podcast this week. Call it activated and have Sierra on as your first guest. Brilliant. You, my friend, you got it. You can actually
Use my platform to start it and come on two judging girls, but me and Courtne...
guys can be the two judging girls. Well, just drop the episode in our feed. Exactly. Somehow we've involved ourselves here. My greatest fear is that we were used as like a blogger's storyline. That was like one of my greatest fears. I was like, I don't want that. I don't want that. Because that's dread really circulated with Kyle. Luckily, there's no cameras up.
“Or are there? Were there cameras at the Lindsay Sierra dinner last night?”
Anyway, Lindsay, he's a London. Do you, do you put ketchup on your eggs? Gross. No, gross.
Hot sauce. Do you? No, like at my home, I would never. But if I went to a diner and I got an
omelette. Mary, you can't have eggs out in public. No. But in case you were going to test things. I wouldn't put some ketchup on the side by the hash rounds. And then it's like a little egg guard heart of that. It would be okay. Sure. But that's not intentional. No, no. Okay. How do you feel about dating a vegetarian or a vegan? Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Kimmy on this. I do. Vegan is tough. Okay. So basically, Kimmy apologizes to Missy, but she is pissed at
Margo. Margo made this into something bigger than it was. And I agree. I'm team Kimmy, the whole way here.
I feel bad for Margo in this moment because she is trying to play the piecekeeper. She is in the
“middle. But I don't trust that Margo. And I think she is flaunting her money. And she's trying to be”
something that she's not. And I actually find it very meta that she came to London to look for work. And this is her work. What she was like, I want to get back into acting. I wanted to say, that's not going to happen for you, babe. And that's okay. This, this is her acting job. This ladies of London is her acting job. It all does feel so put upon like the way that she inserted herself into this Missy Kimmy situation last week. And now this week, I don't trust the girl.
And I thought it was very telling what it marks on. I did have to say when I was watching China, I said, that Mary, she's right. She was right. I did feel that after Mark said that after spending $60,000 for $60,000 for a rainbow house. And that was wild. I was like the floors are painted the color. There's a lot of stairs for having a toddler. $60,000 for $31. That's insane.
“What does the husband do? Who is the husband? Why do we have so much cash?”
I do think she likes the money. And as Mark says, she's changed. It feels very much that way. And it feels like she got cheated in LA. Where's she originally from the States? I know. I'd like to know which state. That's a good question. You could keep talking. I'm happy to look it up. Okay. Oh, I see she's from the South because the Southern Charm? Remember, she was going to put us down. Yeah, I'll keep looking. You keep going. It just feels like
she's a social climber. I did feel like she trapped her husband. And it feels like she lived in LA. And God will taste of the money and wants to let everyone know now that she does have money. I mean, the way that she's talking to a lot. He like, oh my gosh, I had 24/7 helpers. I had three nannies and I love Mott Lottie's outlook on it. She's like, I'd love to do it alone. You know, Mrs. He's like, I had a night nurse. I'd recommend that. You know, I did it mostly
on my own with my second one. This was like Margo's like power move. Like I always had help. I could
do whatever I wanted when I had my baby. So Margo was born in Conway, South Carolina. And she grew up between Conway and Swansboro, North Carolina. So you're right. I don't trust myself for anything anymore. Honestly, yeah, I I question a lot. A question a lot. I think with like Margo, it's almost like she feels like she needs to compete with the women. Like I thought that the groupings for the dinner later in the episode were interesting. It almost felt like an old money group
and then like the new money group. And so it feels like Margo is like trying to make up for something, whether that's like lack of time with her husband, trying to get back to the life that she thought she lived before. It feels a little braggadosious to me about how she's living
That life.
and wants to be Missy's friend. And I do think that Kimmy is a little judgy. Kimmy is a little judgy and a little negative. And I do love that she met up with Missy and that they worked it and that she kind of admitted out loud too. Like, you know what, maybe I was a little insensitive,
“maybe I was a little bit judgmental. And I think she needed that. She wanted to admit it to Missy,”
and she'll never admit it to Margo. That Margo might have been slightly right.
No, I like your point that you said about her playing it up because I just I can't get over the storage scene where she was holding Martha to the fire. And I feel like she was very much like tried to create a moment and a scene on camera. And then now like with her house just showing it off. But then at the same time, you like, I never host, I don't know how to do this, which I feel like someone that has a lot of money loves to host because they outsource everything.
Well, it seems like she was outsourcing dinner. Yeah. And then it also felt like she was almost doing a brand deal when the girls came over. She wanted everyone to try the non-alcoholic
wines. I did feel kind of bad for her because Missy and really wanted a glass of wine.
She just wanted a glass of wine and Margo's sober. And I almost feel like Margo really doesn't keep alcohol in the house because she doesn't want the temptation of and it is what it is in that regard. And Missy just being like, where's the wine? She was really looking forward to going over to her friends else, having dinner and having a glass of wine. She doesn't want this sparkly non-alcoholic shit. It's too sparkly. I did think it was very interesting that Laude is very much
Team Margo. That was a little bit shocking to me. What did you think about that? I don't think so because I think Laude is for what's right. And I think that she was Team Margo because she was Team Missy. And so I think because Margo was standing up for Missy that for Laude that was her being like I'm standing up for here. And I do think that Kimi is a hard egg to crack. I think Kimi has a lot of preconceived notions. And I don't really know what Kimi and Laude's relationship is. But
“like I said with that like old-money new money, it does feel like you have to really work to get”
Kimi to like you. I agree with that. Do you think Kimi would like me? No. What? I would take a few
times. Eventually she would. Eventually she would. But the first time, it would be both of us.
Like I think she would just kind of be like who are these women. But then you'd crack her. Thank you. Yeah. Like you get her eventually because she'd be like oh no, she's just like this fun girl who just like wants to be my friend. I feel like I'll go sit in the corner with you and have wine and we can talk shit on everyone. And I'll keep it a secret. Yeah, you get the wine she likes and you like win her over that way. Good. Sorry. I don't want to again, don't believe
me on anything these days. So maybe she'd like you right away. Okay, let's take a break and then let's come back and talk about the gender reveal. I thought it was very interesting that none of the women were invited to the gender reveal. You know, I didn't even notice that. But I also think it's kind of sweet that they weren't because it felt like very much a party for them and not for the show. Yes, you can film it. But no, it's just going to be family. I love to and she's like,
that's a very American thing. But because of like TikTok, it's now getting more and more popular. Their gender reveal was very sweet. And I was like, I would like to eat both of those cakes. You just described. I was hoping for a girl because there's a crumper lay. Strawberry jam. Sounded delicious. So they're expecting the little boy. You know, she has a little willian
“her feel that way through. You do think about that. Yeah. You definitely did. I think it's really”
cute that they want to celebrate everything because, you know, her dad and he has since passed her father passed away. So I love that we got to share this moment and he met her stuff. Oh, good. Oh, okay. Let's talk the dueling parties because you're telling me there's two events happening on the same night. And I got to go to Margo's when I could go to Emma's. I know. Apparel Spritz cakes. I can't win. And Margo said, oh, yeah, the other women.
And I think it was Laude or something. Or Missy was like, we the other ones are getting together. They were like, are we the B squad? And that's the A squad? Or is this alliances? Like, do you think that they have to start thinking that way when these, they film these shows? Especially Missy who's done it before. Or Mark Francis who has done these shows before.
Do you think they start to think about the meta aspect of who's at what dinner?
I think someone like Missy does and Margo does and Kimmy's above it. Because Margo calls Martha to ask to come over and she's like, oh, no, I'm going to Emma's. Oh, interesting. Kimmy and Martha at the dinner together with absolutely hilarious because Kimmy's like, I can't believe you like that Margo woman. She is despicable. She is tacky.
She has horrible taste. You're the one that said it first. That crushed velvet suit. Ugly, hideous.
Martha was so funny when she was like, you know, last time she was at the London, she wasn't wearing clothes. So we should be excited. She's wearing clothes now. Kimmy and Martha remind me just of two like bickering sisters. They're almost like the angel and the double versions of each other in a way. Because it's like the hair. Kimmy's hair by the way does not move. It is relaxed onto her head. There is no movement on it.
If you told me it was a wig, I would believe you because I have not seen it move. But when Emma described them as the two muppets in the balcony at the theater, I'm giggling. I was like,
that is exactly who they are. Absolutely. And I like where Kimmy stands though. She's like,
sorry, I'm just consistent. Like, I don't like this girl. I'm not going to like this girl. And
“you should actually probably come a little bit more on my side about this because we know she's not”
going to last long and London. And then Mark piggybacked on that. And is like, I heard she is unrecognizable in terms of her manners and the meaner. She is vain, narcissistic, and obsessed with money. It's all about her all the time and she is inseparable. I died the way. He's like execution of it was just impeccable. And then Emma is breaking out into hives from shit talking. Do you see what's happening to me because you guys are talking shit? Like, I can't handle this.
I am in the royal family. I'm fascinated by her. I want so much more. The hard thing with this shows because it's so great. But there's so many of them that we have to learn about each week that I'm like, we don't have enough episodes because I'm obsessed with everyone. I think everyone is playing a part on this show. And I love it. It's like even Dara who I still think about. And she was only in 1.25 episodes. I am so invested in all of these
women. And yet I'm not getting enough of them. And I know the entire cast. Yeah, I really am curious
“because I think Kimmy will have like a second season glow up. I'm excited to see that. I think”
it's really interesting that Martha is still trying to bat for Margot. She's like, well, she's
sober. You know, she isn't the worst. She's absolutely amazing. And Kimmy's like, no, she's not.
Like, I'm done with this girl. She's going to fuck you over. Margot my words. Guess what? She already did. And then Martha said, oh, come on. Well, I am not your friend then. And I think Martha is just super empathetic. And it's like, I've also have like years long relationship with Margot. And to be honest, she hasn't been in London for so long. So I'm just happy my friend is back in town. I think Kimmy just doesn't like that she was called out by Margot. And I, and I don't think that
people come against Kimmy that often. But don't you think Margot was just trying to have a moment there? Like, they don't actually have a beef. But I'm saying like, I don't think that Kimmy has
“a lot of pushback from people in general. I think she's like a force to be reckoned with. And I”
think she's super fun. So it's not like, I'm saying she's a bad person. It's more along the lines of she probably has energy that you're like, oh, if you're going to like go up against her, you're better be ready. Do you think she's a deranged quirky? I think that was a funny image to think about because I love a corgi's butt. And I feel like that's her hair. Like that's the part of her hair is like the corgi's butt is her she'll act with hair. Kimmy is fasty to me because there's
something dark in her history, which is why she is who she is. Where do you think this goes with this group? I mean, it sounds like next week we're going to see a blow up between Mark and Margo. Is Margo going to be on the outs? I just think we hit the nail on the head. We figured out who Margo truly is. And she came to London to be on the show. This is her job. She is acting and she's putting it all on. And she's trying to be something that she's not. And I think it's very off putting to the
group. So I think that'll be her ultimate downfall. Off putting to the group, though, or is it just to a numb like two people in the group, which would be Mark and Kimmy? And Emma, I think Emma isn't allowed to say too much. But she's definitely more on their side. She's co-signing by being there, but not necessarily co-signing by repeating everything. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I love this show. I think
It's been great for her first season.
London this week. We have the premiere of Rhode Island, which Marion, I have both watched you guys.
It is insane. So good. I don't want to like put the expectations high for everyone, but it is
“a fantastic premiere. Even though I'm still having trouble telling them apart, I think you guys are”
really going to enjoy it. The worst show on Thursday will be Beverly Hills.
It's very true. You have the Valley premiere on Wednesday. We've got Summer House tomorrow.
“We have Atlanta coming Sunday. It's like, this is an embarrassment of riches. And then Rhode Island”
will move to Sundays. Wow. This is a big week. You guys have content. I'm just going to warn
you too. We'll be putting a lot out there. But this is just a big week for all of us. And then we
“have to like figure out rumors and confirmation and whatever. I'm like nervous to do anything in”
my life in case something happens. Don't leave the house. Your eye watch will be zzzzzzz. Courtney left the house. I have do not disturb on right now, but I can see my messages piling up on my computer. And what are they saying? You're nervous. I'm nervous. I should go check them. Okay, we'll be back tomorrow. See you guys. Bye. It's just that there's just everything in the car. In Portland, in the same garden.
In sunshine it's good. A good position to have. Good price and good in the forest. So how do we get out? Now we get out and talk. We get out. Good for you, Art, and good for you.
