TJG: Summer House Thursday Updates!

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“have to do a mini update every single day because we're like, what has come out? What's”

going on? Since yesterday, so much happened though. I kind of feel like it was really centered around this three-part series that Kyle had given a, oh, accidentally ran into this guy on the street, even though he's the same guy that I talked to when we put out our separation statement. But how did he find me again? It's so funny. I don't understand why he has this relationship with this Adam Glenn person. And Adam also talked to Andy

yesterday. Did you see that video? Oh, I did not. Can you fill me in? Okay. The Andy video

super short and Andy actually mentions on Watch What Happens Live last night that this is so big that he dropped off Bennett school and TMZ was at the school outside. That's so crazy. This is. Wait, that's actually pretty gross of TMZ to come to a child's school to get scooped. Then Adam interviews Andy and Andy is trying to hail a cab. And in my mind, obviously, Kyle and Adam decided to do this. This is the exact same person when they

do the divorce statement. So then it like made me think to Andy. Call him. Why? I was a little weirded out that Adam was able to get in touch with Kyle and Andy. Especially when Andy has his platform of Watch What Happens Live. Yes. So Andy was very brief with him and was like, he found out like everyone else did. And he feels bad for everyone involved. And Andy just kept on saying, you know as much as I do. And that type of thing. Also interesting

in the three part series from Kyle is Kyle's and he has not reached out to him at all. What is Andy supposed to say? Maybe just a check in text or I'm thinking about you or this is a lot. I understand what you're saying, but I feel like for Andy, he sure he feels

“for everybody. I think he's from a business perspective is like, what the fuck? The stress level”

for the people editing the city has to be so high at this point. I've been tired season was going to be about the separation. It was going to be about the divorce. It was going to be

about moving out and Kyle said it's in this video. He's like basically like at the reunion.

He's going to clear up the timeline of the separation. He keeps on saying it was a little bit murky because you know, they were pretending at BravoCon. They were together and I feel like she was already moved out at that point. They're going to clear things up. The announcement of the separation while it was like the end of January beginning of February before the season started didn't mean that's the day they separated. No, and she said on watch what

happens like she was vague about it. She's like, I don't know. Was it October November? She was trying to figure it out. We can't believe a word she says now Mary. It feels like it was definitely more the beginning of October. I so I asked this question yesterday and I'd love to ask you what you would choose. Okay. So if you had the opportunity to be dropped into one of these three different areas, would you choose the summer house group chat, Sans West and Amanda? Would you like to be dropped

“into West and Amanda's texts? Or would you like to be in the Bravo production email threats?”

Be West and Amanda's texts. Wow. Okay. Why? Because I want to read the texts when they were hooking up and timeline. Yes, I also feel like they maybe hooked up under 10 times. I wonder how many times so sober. I wonder how many times it happened overall. I just feel like this was a fun little fling and not a major relationship and they got caught. And now I have to get married. They're moving to New Jersey and they're popping out some kids and she's Amanda Wilson. Just kidding.

The more and more I think about it at the reunion, they're not going to come together as a couple at all. It's going to be very broken off. You have a theory. Okay. I didn't get to answer

I think a lot of that is trying to piece the timeline. I think you're right in the West and Amanda,

“but I actually want to be in the bravo production email thread because obviously everybody's watching”

this season now with a different eye. I still am going with, but you know, once you say something in conviction, it doesn't actually mean that there's any troop to it, but I still don't believe it happened last summer. I still think this is something that's recent only a few months, but from the bravo production aspect, I'd love to know what's going on with the reunion. I'd love to know if they're trying to figure out in the city. I'd love to know if they're trying to piece the

timeline themselves. What's great about what's going on is you and I. We could team up. You could be in on the facts messages. I'll fill you in on bravo production. We just need one more person in that summer house group chat. And we've got the full 360. Okay. But my theory is, especially after watching the three parts of this video of Kyle with Adam Glenn is, Kyle and Amanda are getting back together. When you said that, I was like, oh my god,

absolutely not. But then the wheels started churning because the way Kyle is in this video, he is really sticking up for Amanda. He is really worried about her mental health, really worried about her cyberbullying. He cannot imagine that West Wilson has gained 50,000 followers in the last couple of days. He is disgusted by it. Who this guy lied to everyone, and you want to follow him? What kind of person is that? Now to be fair, West has started to

lose followers today. So Kyle's message was delivered. I also did he get a trouble Kyle for doing this? What about the gag order? I don't think he really revealed anything to be honest in this video. He's saying, I don't know what the timeline is. Obviously, I'm getting DMs that are saying anywhere

“from last June to a few months ago. He didn't really say I think he's not going to speak on”

Sierra's behalf. I mean, he did say Carl's a mess. I don't know. But Carl's so upset by this. Obviously, everybody's feeling the betrayal of it. You know, they asked when did you find out, did you find out over the weekend? Like, and he's like, I think Sierra had more evidence. But I'm not going to tall hers. Like, she'd let me figure it out. I'm going to let her tell her story. So it wasn't like he was giving details of anything. But we said this yesterday,

best to introduce Amanda to his family and it's serious. And then Kyle tells us, West introduced him to his family too. And they wrote horses together. West has just introduced anyone to his family. I also, I think West's mom must be pissed at him. Well, both of his parents. I think both because they said they're worried about him making an asshole of himself. He said that since the beginning of joining this show, I can only just imagine, too, is like, she is this

OBGYN. He's always spoken on like the feminist labels. And then to see all of this and it's like,

you just have disappointment. I'm sure of this at such a high scale of what's happening. Great. And speaking about Sierra, apparently today, TMZ is reporting that Sierra discovered the video of West and Amanda before they confirmed the romance. The star obtained a video allegedly showing Amanda and West being intimate in his apartment, something that left her upset. We're told neither Amanda nor West knew they were being recorded. That fucking peeping Tom, that's gross.

“That's gross. But interesting. It's at his apartment. So that's what I had actually heard too.”

So then, so I think when they said somebody saw them that it was someone across the way that notice Amanda was walking around in her underwear or something in West's apartment, that's the video apparently that Sierra saw when she met up with someone. This whole thing is crazy because I'm like, that's actually so invasive and disgusting to tape or record or capture someone in

their underwear or in this level of intimacy, which, that's probably maybe why we'll never see

that video because gross. That's disgusting. But I had also heard with, and we mentioned yesterday that something that was getting weird shoots shut off her location was that, is this true or not? But that Sierra had seen Amanda was at West's apartment. And then like 15 hours later was still there and sent a text like what's going on and Amanda responded, "Oh, hot. We're just friends." And then Sierra had responded just friends or friends that hook up and then it took Amanda

Dagger's to the heart. Is this real or not? I don't know. So I'm saying this is an alleged rumor. But I just can't imagine being able to put the pieces together and you know, she's enlisting people too. Like she's probably called page saying like what the, like calling Mia what the, but like people are just trying to figure out. I keep thinking about that first we feast thing. Remember I kept saying Mia's not having it with West. Like the question was, who will have

like the most to apologize for? And she said West and Lindsay was like, "Wait, why West?" And she's like,

"He just always has something to apologize for and I thought had to find my friend's situation

already happened." And she knew and it's like, "Okay, you're saying you're just friends, which sure you can be sure, but there's just such a super, such a thing." What do you think about my theory about Kyle and Amanda getting back together though? Because we didn't finish that thought

“process over there. I think it's really nice that Kyle has been in contact with her”

he did feel sincere. I know there could be a little bit put upon because he wants to look good, but at the same time they have over a decade relationship together and I feel like she is really alone right now. I'm hoping when it comes down to it is like Sierra for me is the most important person in this that deserves all the support, all the love, all the people who are like putting her up and making sure she's okay. I mean I think we said yesterday too was like I just hope

everyone's okay mentally in this situation. I also think that people are going to be talking about it and are going to be forming opinions around it. And I think what Kyle was trying to say, why is she getting the heat and West isn't getting anything? You know why is it that like she's

“going to lose followers and West is gaining? Who is finding the good and West and the bad and Amanda?”

And it's like welcome to the Patriarchy Kyle that's always seemingly how it goes. But Kyle

besides the history he has with Amanda in this video is more pissed at the fact that West had duped him so badly. He's like we were so close. I don't think people realize the relationship that West and I had besides Amanda they had that scarf collab that they were doing together trips that they had taken. He said I get they were on the freaking boat together doing sailgate. He is pissed at the level of betrayal and I think he's also pissed too because he said in the third

part I think it was he was talking about the show about the Cartier watch and he's like all of those interviews happen in September and after the seasons he's not only commenting at the time of saying that I'm being a jerk. I'm doing this and whatever but then he's going in there and accusing me of the cheating part and buying this watch. So he's doubling down on this and I'm sure Kyle's trying to figure out what the timeline is too and is like he's playing in my fucking face.

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Because West did text Kyle and Kyle's like that was such a half ass text.

“He is livid with West. What do you think the text said?”

I'm sorry. I didn't want it to come to this. I'm sorry I had to find out this way. You're still my bro. I don't know. I don't know. But I think it's really interesting because Kyle alluded to rewatching and noticing how checked out she was. And then he's like I feel like looking at their body language. And I think it's interesting that he is questioning

the timeline and he has gotten DMs that say maybe this happened in June. He's like I always get

weird DMs though. So I'm like, was this brewing sexual tension for a really long time? Which is so funny, too, because they've been trying to angle that at Ben. Yeah, higher season. That's my Mike's misses. The wrong guy was up in his mates misses. The wrong guy. So that's really uncomfortable. I would love to know if Carl has reached out to Amanda

And I also feel like Carl out of anyone knows about making like poor decisions and choices.

And someone that's come out on the other side of that. So I wonder if he has like any empathy or sympathy or he's a mess. He's a mess. He's in LA right now. Me and him. I'm not sure what they're doing, but they're staying at the same hotel. I feel like Carl feels so deeply because we're still waiting to see that Kyle and Carl fight. And it almost sounds like it could be in defense of

“Amanda. I think Beatreel is such a big deal in this. They are a family. In the last episode,”

Kyle literally cheers when it's to see her saying to keep in it in the family, referencing Seer with her buying her grandfather's house. But also what a double on Tondra that is right there, too, who knew I still am of the ilk that it was, they were maybe had something emotional, Amanda was able to like lean on West and she's playing. She's hanging out with the guys. She's going out with the group. She's being this different version of herself. And then once that

separation had, she was like, I want to light the world on fire. I don't give a fuck. Like her self-esteem is in the gutter. She's the queen of self-sabotage. People are like, do you think they even thought about? And you know, and I said this, too, because professionally, did they think about what would happen? And I'm like, at the end of the day, I don't think they thought about any of that. I don't think they actually know. They were having fun keeping this secret. They're good friends.

I was wondering, is Amanda pushing for a relationship? Is West trying to figure out? I honestly

think it happened one night. And then they were like, this could never happen again. Like,

take this to the grave. And then it happened again. And it kept kind of happening. And they really didn't think about the repercussions. And to me, it's everyone's jobs on the line, like the city, especially. And even in this interview, Kyle talks to the guy about the city was giving us an option not to do summer house. So if we wanted to have kids, we could just stay on the city. And now he's like, well, maybe I will be on summer house because I am single. And then I'm like,

will he get back together? You just put that in my mind. And maybe I do. I won't that. I don't even know anymore. I don't know what I want. It's just, I'm so confused right now. And the reunion is just gonna be insane. Well, okay. So I also was thinking about the room. And I was deeming with somebody about this too. It was like, was this also like a soft launch for Amanda to not come to the reunion? Maybe she checks herself until a mental health facility and loop holes getting out of

the reunion? I also was thinking who's going to defend her here. It feels very much that like Kyle's going to send like a 17 page email to the cast saying to focus their energy on West. Amanda can't handle this. Feels like Kyle's still going to be defending her. And I thought, okay, if Amanda doesn't come to the reunion, does West come to the reunion? West is so concerned about how the public views him. I can't see him missing the reunion. But I'm just need to know what path the two of them are

taking. Like you said, I don't think they're arriving together. I think it's over at this point. And

“I think for the two of them, it's probably the best thing is for it to be over because if they don't”

get married, what are they trying to do here? The joint statement was for a situation ship and then like seeing fan reaction. But I have to say because you brought up about what's the

future of the shows with Kyle. First off, that man is a hustler. He is in love or boy shirt.

He's first and the dogs are going nuts. He's got both the dogs. I don't even know where Amanda is. He's picking up dog shit and holding it for five plus minutes. Literally, the dogs will just start viciously barking at people and he'll be like, "Race, god damn it, race, race!" Actually, the steering. But he brings up in the video. How can the group film together at this point? And I think that has made summer house what it is because it is genuine friendships and fun.

Summer should be fun. But at this point, they could not film with the same cast at all. Something big has to change. Do you think that there is a way for the group to come back

“if they could somehow forgive Amanda and cut West out? That's what I was trying to be out because”

kind of so mad at West. He is living. He hates this man, hates him. And to be fair, it also sounds like in this video. I took from it is that it sounds like West has somewhat turned on Amanda. Not turned, but it's trying to keep distance away. It's not a body and quiet us against them. It's kind of like,

Amanda's perspective sounds like they're not together right now. And Kyle wants to just focus

how much he hates West. Where he's like, I don't think West should come back to the summer house. Kyle is trying to figure out how to save the show while also winning in this aspect too. I also thought it was funny that he was wearing a Celsius hat because I'm like, is he trying to like advertise like lover boy on his shirt? Celsius on his hat? Like Celsius, do you want to buy lover boy? Oh, you want it. I don't even think I feel like the man was hustling the whole time.

He's trying to save two shows. He handed his business and I thought he came up so well in this interview where I'm like, I cannot believe this man who called his wife a dumb-booking bitch is going

to come out of this unscathed. It's truly wild. So there's scenario one, West gets fired.

Kyle gets to go back to the summer house and then that leaves this with is he actually going to reconcile with Amanda to three day are they friends? What's going to happen there? That's a question mark there. Okay. Then scenario two, scenario two, Kyle just comes back, no West in Amanda. Number three, Amanda and West come back as a couple in the summer house. Someone's got to be in that primary scenario four, summer house is over. You guys also in other breaking news, the house is

up for sale. It really is like a restart. Could I say something though? This could save Carl's job. Tell me more, tell me more. He's not in the city. We know he's out of cast member there. If they

“have to take West out and Amanda out, there's two spots to fill right now. Could it be Kyle and Carl?”

Does Lindsey come back? I mean, because Kyle saying this in the video too, right? As you mentioned, in the city was that next phase of life, you know, Lindsey is killing it and is a mom. It's like it's so crazy to the relationship because we have to talk about Lindsey and it's crescent Doty. You mean, Detective Doty and Sherlock Hubbard? Imagine the conversation. Imagine the conversation. Going back to the summer house is like, at this point, if West comes back, who's filming them?

I think Jesse, Jesse apparently was allegedly at the gym today and told someone he thinks it's a little bit blown out of proportion. You know, West seemingly really likes her and timelines a lot more chiller than what everybody thinks. It's really happened recently and then Lindsey comments on that. I was like, isn't Jesse in Miami? I'm picturing Doty and Hubbard sitting at a bar just

“shugging wine. I'm being like, can you imagine? Because also what's crazy too is if you want to”

compare it, this really is kind of the Stasi jacks, Kristen, Sandevol from season two, except the social media was not as big as it was. Right. And Kristen Doty was on Watch What Happens last night and she didn't really understand the gravity of the situation. She isn't really in the mix. So obviously Lindsey Hubbard completely filled her in yesterday and got in to do that video. Yeah. Well, and Kristen also was like, I don't even want to talk about because everybody

will bring up Kristen. What did you do in the past? He's like, I'm just like Team Sierra. Like, I feel for Sierra, Kristen's had so much growth since 14 years ago. She said, and the guest on was Heim, a lot of Heim. Yeah. Big Bravo, girlie. And she's a tailored girlie. So then it made me think, does Taylor Swift know about this? I bet she does. How big of national news is this? I had got a USA today alert, you know, a notification on my phone. It was like,

summer house scandal. Let's break it down. Like, what? It's a day is writing articles on this.

“Like, it's so crazy and so crazy. Also, it's the west side story. That's what we're calling now.”

It's not Scamanda. Okay. Oh, that's a man that Francis is Scamanda with Scandival and it's west side story. And whoever came up with that, you're a genius. You are a genius. Vendules is chiming in from season four because Amanda was really mean to her. And I was like, I mean, she's not like wrong, but also Jules, not the time. Not the time Jules. That's so embarrassing.

Not the time. I just need to know. We got to find that third person who wants to jump into the

summer house tax we can get that full 360. And I don't even know if we'll get a full timeline ever. Like, when it came to Scandival, they tried to say it was only what seven months. And the rest of us can look back and be like, no way. This is going further. Like, I don't know if we'll ever get straight answers, although you brought up a good point yesterday. And you brought up west blind

a level of guilt, too, because he clearly played a part in the breakdown of their marriage. So then I'm

sure he's thinking, did I make her run into somebody else's arms? I had this history with her. I clearly

“love her like autos. Honestly, the reason I think they could get back together is I could see them”

both being like, okay, clean slate. I fucked up all these times. I cheated. I did this. Okay, you did this and we were separated. Let's just call it a clean slate and start over. It is nice to see him coming to her defense. Like, this woman is not well right now. He could have like also maybe said that for like, Sierra too. I'm upset for her because her status on the show is actually really question because it all depends on that bubble that she wants to feel is she comfortable enough

going to the summer house. Yeah, that's a good point. Here's what I would actually love. And I

think that they could actually be smart about how they go about this in a way. Keep in the city,

“I think that that could figure out, especially if we focus on the other people who are cast,”

obviously the Amanda Kyle Lindsay draw, right? But it's like, we have Andrea, we have other couples who are going to be in. We can use them as the like gateway into it, but then focus on the other couples. I would love to see Mia and Sierra and like Cajay have a show and like keep them

in the city, especially because Cajay is dating Dara and so it's like he doesn't need to necessarily

go to the summer house. I would love to see the three of them be an anchor to a show because Sierra shouldn't have to decide where she's going to go because right now to me, I would see her leaving. And that's not cool because she shouldn't have to leave something because of a situation that other people fucked up for her. I mean, the summer house could definitely be Jesse Mia, Cajay, Dara, Sierra, Bailey, Carl, Kyle and they throw in like three new people, no less, no Amanda.

I hope that Sierra isn't affected professionally from this because of their dumb decisions. I hope she gets all the offers in the world. I hope she gets to really decide like maybe they can say, Sierra, it's you or Wes, you want to be on it. He's out. Dive would love to hear that. It's going to be based on how this reunion goes and it would be in Amanda and Wes best interest to come together and figure out the timeline and come in with the

“facts and just you have to lay it all out there and I would not be continuing with this relationship”

and move on. That's like the only way to get out. Or get married. Did Kyle set this up to defend Amanda? Was Amanda like, I wish somebody would come to my defense and Kyle night and shining armors like, I got you. Let me set this up. Let me do this. But realistically, we have not heard a peep from them besides this joint statement. I know that there was the photo of Wes in the Delta lounge, but no movement on social, no sightings really,

like it's been so quiet from them. I just can't picture what is happening and like you said, are they talking to each other? Is he avoiding her? Is she avoiding him? Where are they both? I mean, it's a true. Where in the world is Carmen San Diego? I am very excited if April 15th is the actual reunion day because I'm sure we'll get some leaks out of that. It's like, fuck, tax day. It's summer. How's reunion day? Oh, God, Courtney, I love talking about this

with you. It's crazy. It's so crazy. We'll let another 24 hours go by and then we'll shout about it again. When we back tonight with Rhode Island and then we'll see you for Beverly Hills and Southern hospitality tomorrow. Bye, everyone. Bye.