Say Less, Do Less (Q&A)

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Hi, guys. Welcome back to another special episode of Two T's in a pod with myself and Dolores. We have a Q&A today. Now, all these questions are from fans, from social media, so we're going to get right into it, and I'm going to start Dolores.

Do you have a regret, your biggest regret from Housewives? You know, it's funny. I was just thinking about this yesterday. It's so weird. My psyche isn't right now.

Like, I think about things, and then they're like, "Big come up." So this is my biggest regret.

“I received the key to the city of Patterson from the mayor.”

It was such a beautiful ceremony, my family was there, my friends there. It was just amazing, it was in the mayor's office, and it was such a proud moment for me, and they cut it out. They cut it out. They never showed it.

Not that I ever bragged about that. So is your regret, the editor? My regret, I don't have any regrets of anything I did or didn't do. I regret that there was my life that you didn't see, relationships with my family, with my brother and sisters who I speak to every single day.

There was some arguments over, care for my mom, and things like that, and they never showed

that. But that's a real thing in this world. There was so much of my mind, and so much about me talks with my dad that you didn't get to really get to ever really know me. And I kind of make sure you feel like, God, am I boring?

Is that why they don't show up? Last year, Eddie was cut from a lot of stuff. No, it's not because I'm boring at all, but you feel that way. No, I feel that way at all. The reason I didn't fight for it was the same reason that you said, like, oh, I wish

they'd forget my package at the end of the reunion as well, because also a part of it was, if you're going to keep my family out of it, then I'm protecting them by not fighting for them to be on it. Well, I would say my biggest regret on my, you know, just being on housewives in the past is maybe doing too much, maybe not maybe for sure.

Maybe being a little bit more extra to make good TV and not really showing, like, my, who truly, who I am. And that to me, like, I do 100% in every single job I've done.

I worked my ass off to get to two years to get to that drive through window, like, I do what it takes to be good if it's the podcast or if it's Vina or whatever it is. And so sometimes I feel like I do too much and that gets lost and who truly who I am. So those days are over. Those days are over, because sometimes I feel like I just look like an asshole and I just want

to be truly more who I am. Well, you know, it's funny, because when people meet you outside of the screen, right? And they do. They're like, wow, terrible. It was really nice.

Yeah. So people don't know that side of you. They just don't. And that's the truth. I just feel like sometimes like, oh, you're doing housewives.

“You know, you have to be very transparent.”

And I think it's been since I've come back to the show. I felt like I had something to prove. And, you know, you want to out everything, you want to do all these things where I would

never do that in real life ever.

So now I'm learning, like, say less, do less, trust the process. Well, I remember on watch what happens, lie and Andy said to you, you're like, well, if I don't do, if I'm not, I'll ask you, or if I don't do this, then I'm not a good housewife. He goes, that's not true. Yeah.

That's kind of how I felt it. Like, I think I felt pressure from me getting fired in the show, you know, obviously, not doing that great well as well. And then me coming back, and I felt like I had a point to prove, like, if the show didn't get better or wasn't more entertaining, then it would be on me.

Well, yeah, you took that on yourself though. I, 100%, 100% and I think that I finally have learned, like, I don't have to do that. I just want people to see me for who I truly am and not somebody trying to make maybe good TV. Yeah.

Well, yeah. There you go.

“Delores, are you still close with Margaret?”

Actually, yes, of course. I haven't spoken to her because she's in Argentina. She's just looking at amazing trip, I'm going to, I would like to call her and talk to her about it. I had seen on Instagram, there was a church right in the vicinity of where she was, where

they had, like, a miracle actually happened. Wow. It was the host had started to bleed. The host that the priest gives out and it's still there and it's like a documented miracle. So I know she went there.

I want to hear all about it, but I love Margaret. Margaret's great. She's funny. She's funny. She's really funny.

I don't think I talked to her for a couple of months. She seems to be very busy. She's so busy. I don't get to see her. We check in with each other and of course, you know, I love Margaret.

Who do you think the goat, how swifes? From her side. You're a city.

“Listen, Tamara, I think each city has their own goat.”

Yeah. I think that every housewife has their, you know, their core person on that cast. Like, it's Kyle for Beverly Hills. But do I think she does the most? No.

I just think she's like the face of the show.

I think, you know, and Jersey was always true.

Exactly. You know, and it's just different. I don't know if it's considered a goat, greatest of all time. But I would just say there's a, there is a standout person who has the talent to each. I feel that every housewife has their own niche.

Every housewife. 100%. Has their own reason for being a goat because it's not easy to do. A lot of people want it and they don't get to do it. And we're vulnerable, and, you know, there's always a risk that something can happen in our

life at any given time that's going to be tragic and public. Yes. Oh, I'm going to say, I don't give a fuck how anybody feels. We're all goats. Okay.

I mean, anybody that puts their life out there on national TV is a goat in my mind because a lot of people can't do it. It's not easy. A lot of people want to do it. Like literally try to pay to get on and fight and beg borrow and steal and they get

a scene and they full flat on camera. Yeah. Um, somebody else will Vina ever get airtime on Orange County. I'm hoping to see Vina event this season. Um, I hope so.

I hope so. We've had little things like mean Emily had the shelters one day in the courtyard. I think it aired. I can't remember. Um, yeah.

I mean, I had a Vina event and it was cut years ago. So I don't know what the good thing is, is that Vina does amazing. That's what I'm saying. That's amazing. It's not broke.

Don't fix it.

So to me, it's never been something I wanted to push because it is so successful.

I don't want anything to hurt it. I don't think.

I don't think. Well, look at what happened to Angel. Yeah.

Years always fear having more than that day.

Yeah. You have one bad day. And then there's the people that want to come after you. They don't like you. Like if Vina isn't in their face, they don't think to go and knock it, right?

Right. Right. So right. It's like just my family and key to the city and all those things. If it's not on, it's okay.

Yeah. The thing with viewers and I mean, not all viewers. But as soon as you put your business on there, like we put cut fitness on there, we would get nasty reviews.

“That's what I have never stopped foot in the business.”

So it's a double edged sword. That makes sense. It's a different fragrance you like to wear. Well, when I first, I'll just quick story. When I first met Paul, I had flower bomb.

I had a half of it too. I did too. I had a half a bottle to my name, one bottle of perfume. Now I have bottles of perfume from all over the world. Oh, my goodness.

Some of the most of them I can't even say because I am because I am. Because I am. Because of him all over the world. I'm Saudi Arabia, Fran, Germany, and Paul's known for his good smell. It's one of the sexiest things about him when I had met him.

He was always well dressed, always put together, not a hair out of place, and he smells

amazing. And because he's such a perfume, colon guy, I have, I wear creed, lolabo, those are my things. Those are the things I could say. The other ones, I can't pronounce.

Yeah. I mean, she's amazing.

“I've always leaned towards Joe Malone, like all the fragrances.”

They just have so many. My daughter Sophia is very in to perfume. She is all. She can tell you what notes are in them, and she's. What's her note?

I guess whatever's in it like tobacco. Oh, god, but now let's have a look at these things. So she turned me on recently.

She got me replica, and it's never ending summer by Mason Margella.

Is that sound right? Sounds good to me. Yeah. Smells so good, so many different sense. It's not one of the cheaper ones.

It is definitely up there in price, but that one, I've been wearing that one lately. Well, that's a good one, and Veronica Baye, you know, she's inspired by the South of France, so everything is fresh and there's so many amazing ones out that you can spend like Sophia. She just can sit there, stand there at the mall, and just smell them all, and tell

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“But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines?”

It began as a one night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract agreed to date me, but I'm also doing it.

This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said cheese said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies.

"I've done nothing to get pregnant by the f*** rats lurk." Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Joe Interestine, host of the spare daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and have a step into your most vibrant life.

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“Lucy Leppi has been found guilty, but what if we didn't get the full story?”

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role, listen to doubt the case of Lucy Leppi on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. To either of you have an update on the Miami ladies regarding their show, Andy did say it's coming back, but they're still casting. There has been a long extended time since they filmed last, it's been over a year that

reused. I did not know that, yeah.

So they kind of, they're not on pause, but they are definitely looking into the show and

we're not filming. We're not filming. True. True. So, I know I talked to Marisol once in a while, and she says, Marisol, I have no idea

what's been going on, dirty, Lisa, we, I just saw, like no casting decisions have been made, I don't know that anybody's been let go yet, nothing, it's been very, very quiet. Did you see Adriana got like some type of award on one of the Instagram things, I don't know if it's a formula award, like about the abortion, about the Haitian mortician, yeah. Oh, my God.

Yeah.

“Um, who do you predict moves on first, Kyle or Amanda?”

Amanda, she's already been a little touchy, feely, but some type of fingers on Instagram. That's it's the official girl. Yeah. That's what I thought. It's the official.

I love that. Would you rather see Dallas or Dubai Housewives rebooted? Dubai? I mean, Chanel, I am is the, she's a show in herself, I'm sorry, but she's hysterical. I'm wondering if Dubai's just too hard to film because of the rules and laws and all that

and expensive, expensive. I would like to see both of them rebooted because that just gives us more to talk about on the podcast. I think that Dallas could be good. I think, I don't know if it was a casting situation or what, but I'd like to see them

both come back. Calibur's Stephanie Holdman, they were, those got, let me tell you, they were funny. They were. The, the other question is, is what franchise or city of housewives would you like to see?

“And I think, Tennessee, I think there's all been a lot of people that have moved to Tennessee”

that are natural, yeah, yeah, and Nashville. What is the other area over there in, in, uh, Tennessee, with everyone's moving. I can't Franklin, it's out of Franklin. I think that there's a lot of great talent out there that could be on one of these shows. So I think that Chicago would be great.

Las Vegas would be fun. I'm curious to see. Okay, Dolores, somebody wants to know if there are any wedding planning updates. I am actually meeting with a wedding planner today for Frankie's wedding here for her little.

Well, that's what it says. I mean, I'm focused on Frankie's wedding, and for me, I'd like to get married. I told you I have a New Year's Eve party coming up for all of us. If that's, and it wouldn't be, I don't know, next year I don't know. I don't know.

You have a whole year to plan it. Okay. Do traders cast, find out who won after wraps, or do they have to wait to watch it like the rest of us? They have to wait to watch.

Unless somebody leaks to somebody to tell somebody, I think they probably may be telling each other, um, doesn't matter. It's that excitement, whether you know who wins or not, or think you're sure who wins. You still have that excitement at the end, and this is so talked about, like, it's crazy. Cause she was like, I'm like, put your hands down, more a put your hands down.

She had him like this for like, it felt like 10 minutes, put your hands down and punch him.

Just kidding, um, somebody asked, "Tam, do you always use face app now?"

“You look gorgeous and honestly can't tell anymore.”

Well, no one's asking me that. Well, I have been promoting face app on my social media, it's one of my, um, partners in social media, and I do love face app. I don't always use it, but it's always great for those, um, like, I don't know people know this, but it has a video editor too.

So if you're doing a video and you want to send it off, like, you know, happy birthday somebody, and you're like, "Oh, I don't look right. You can put your video in there and hit, like, you know, Hollywood too or whatever you want, and it will freshen you up, brighten you up, make it look better. Sometimes when my sponsor posts, I want to do that because I just feel like, I just don't

want to look pretty right now." And that really helps. It really helps.

I mean, it doesn't change you to the point where it's, like, face tone where you're

blurry. I, as long as you stay within your limits, but sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't, but thank you for the compliment, um, with Dolores come on O.C. as your friend. I would love that. Yes.

I would love that. I would love that. I would love for you to come on as a housewife. [laughs] But just bring me on.

“Are you going to have a party this year and have me come in?”

Maybe, that's a good idea. Bring me their girl. Yeah. I would love it. Okay.

That is our last question. But like we said, we have Kristen who is coming on next. She's an expert on peptide. She's somebody that Dolores has been working with for quite a while now. Pauli's been using them.

I might need to get her, definitely get her contact information. And he would, I need to be on. You want to advance your education, but not on a traditional path. At Rasmussen University, you'll find flexible and engaging online experiences. Tuition-saving options if you qualify.

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I'm Clayton Nackard and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan.

He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected.

The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would.

“But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines?”

It began as a one night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agreed to date me, but I'm also suing you.

We're such one. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies.

I don't know the exact answer. I get by the f*ck. Brassler! Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, this is Joe Interestine, host of this fair dotter podcast, where we talk about astrology, native charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16,

you're going to have a terrible time with men. After storyteller and unapologetic aquarium visionary, Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius, like our misunderstood, a son and Venus in Aquarius,

in her 7th house, spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms on different houses in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it. If you're navigating your own transformation,

or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must listen.

starting on February 24th.

“On the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,”

or wherever you listen to your podcast. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the full story? A moment you look at the whole picture of the case collapses.

I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence

and hear from the people that lived it.

To ask what really happened, when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism are doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong.

Listen to doubt the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeart Radio app. Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, Dolores. I have a question that a lot of people are wondering and I have a lot of interest in this as well.

What peptides do you take? Well, I'm going to let my very dear friend Kristen, Henninian, who I get my peptides from, who is in a longevity expert peptide expert. She's a nurse practitioner, double board certified.

Let's bring her on, who could explain it better than I can. She's like a sister to me, but she's a genius. So I have a lot of questions for her. I want you to answer. I'm going to even stay out of it because I know you have a lot of questions

and I can always talk to her.

So go first. I want to hear about what peptides that you take. Well, I take human in, which is my favorite. The GLP one I think is a peptide. I'm just going to like Kristen give you my rundown.

Because she knows better than me. I just think what she tells me. Well, welcome Kristen. Here's the face to the person I'm going to be talking about. Talk to Dolores talks about the peptides and you all the time.

And I mean, so nice that you're here, but there's like so many, can so much confusion when it comes around peptides. Are they safe? Okay. Well, is there enough information out there yet?

Like, tell us all. So, so great questions. What are they safe? That's contextual. Yes, they are safe when they're from a licensed provider that is using

a 503A pharmacy and having that peptide compounded for you. Based upon your needs, your labs, where you are in your journey. There are a lot of self prescribers out there using, excuse me, research use only peptides and that's very concerning. Because there are, in a nutshell, there are cancer concerns that we have to think about,

because peptides are signaling, and we don't want to over signal what we call the M tour pathway, which is like the motherboard of our mitochondria. And it kind of tells things turn on, turn off, recycle, repair.

“And I think when people are doing things blindly, which we see a lot of people doing today,”

that's where we have those concerns. Well, social media, especially Instagram, has a ton of people who are selling them. And they're not doctors. It's terrifying. Yeah, it's like the Wild Wild West right now.

I really want to say that, people really, I do a lot of things. I advocate for a lot of this, but I'm getting it from a licensed practitioner. Somebody who I know, I followed you, not because you're like my best friend, my sister, but because I've seen you travel all over the world. You're probably trained.

You've trained all over the world, and you've done it yourself. You trusted enough to give it to yourself and your husband and the people that you love. So I'm here for that, and you have more letters past your name than I can count. So I mean, you are absolutely qualified. Why don't you just before we get into this, I want everyone to know that we're bringing you here,

because you are a credible form of information. And let them know you are double board certified, let them know everything that you did before we get into this.

“I want to give that caveat, and that's the biggest issue, too, is in this, in medicine, we're always learning, right?”

It's, it's never static. We don't stop. So yes, my personal quest came out of going through menopause, you know, whatever, seven years ago, struggling with this aging process and what was happening to my body and not having any control over it. So that obviously fed that fire because I was trained on a traditional, I mean, now I call it the pharmaceutical model of medicine.

It's a pill for this, a pill for that, a pill for this, and it didn't get to root causes of things. And so these programs, like when I did this fellowship, it was a complete mind blown because it changed the way that I looked at medicine and how I treated my patients. So it's, it very much came out of, I hate to say a selfish place, but a place that I was also frustrated and conventional medicine. Looking at my dear friend who is an internal medicine physician and asking, "What can we do about what's happening to me?"

And her telling me, "Well, you know, this is just a part of aging." And that's not true. It's not something that we have to sit back and just take because yes, the aging process happens, but we have tools in our toolbox to mitigate that so that we can age in a healthy way. It's not about living forever, but it's certainly about being able to be independent as long as you're alive.

You know, and do your things and feel good, if you will.

Yeah, well back in the day, it was always hormone replacement.

Take testosterone, take progesterone, take, you know, this, this, and this, to for aging. Is this kind of the new age of hormone replacement or is this something you do on top of that? So nothing will ever take the place of HRT for us, especially as women, right? Because when you look at Alzheimer's patients, two out of every three or women. So we know without a doubt that losing that estrogen, the implications of that bone loss, brain health, all the things that matter as we get older.

So you have to have good antivolic tone for peptides to then come in and do the things that you want them to do.

“And you have to remember, too, while there are many synthetic peptides, a lot of peptides are endogenous.”

Like Dolores talked about humanin. But we make that, that's a mitochondrial derived peptide that as we age declines, once we hit 50, it's very significant to decline. And Dolores joked initially when we were talking about how she was feeling on it. And she said, you know, I feel like like my, like I've, I've got like 80D, you know, like I'm ready to go and focus. I've got energy. Well, that's because we're signaling.

What I said was I feel like I did Coke if I ever did it. I feel like this would be there.

I don't know if I know, but I've never done that.

But this is like what I think people do it for. Like that sounds like I felt like a lurk and energetic and young again. And that's that because that's the target, right? We're targeting the mitochondrial, which is the powerhouse for us. It's the powerhouse of ourselves.

And that is what starts to really kind of fall short as we age. And we lack that energy that pull.

“Remember we joked about your cortisol awakening response.”

When I tested you know, I was like, Dolores, you're a flatline. I mean, the, the level that what you're running. Your body can't, yeah, your body can't keep compensating. So we needed to work on that. So that's, you know, TA1.

Another amazing peptide that our body makes.

The fight in the thymic tissue and that declines as we age. So hence the reason our immune systems change as we get older. So so many of these peptides we make in our body. But we just, we lose them as we get older. GHKCU is another one.

So these are not things that are foreign substances to the body. But that's where then again, I was talking earlier, Tamara, where I said, where you get them from matters. Because if you're getting research use only, you're potentially getting things with a lot of endotoxins that you really don't know. And you really don't know in the long term what that's going to do to your body. Yeah, exactly.

So I remember back maybe 10 years ago. H GH was the answer to everybody's problems. And I took H GH in all the sudden. I started getting skin gross skin cancers. All of my arms, I ended up getting melanoma.

And then stopped. But, so your body also makes H GH. So that's why it's so scary to me. And maybe if I didn't have that experience, I would be like, oh, sure I'll jump on board.

But now they're saying an AD can potentially give you cancer. So great points. But again, H GH turns everything on, right? Remember, and you come from a body building background. Remember, you know, the J cutlers.

Yeah. And the guys, they get the growth gut. And you're the acromedium. Yes, they'll get huge. Yeah, massive doses of H GH.

Turns everything on who makes everything grow. So that's the other part of this too. Is looking at these categories of peptides and saying, What is proliferative? What is non-prolifitive?

Now, yes, of course, everybody's doing that.

“But you have to enact a co-enzyme that is necessary for mitochondria for that oxidative phosphorylation.”

We need it. But you have to ask if not take it blindly. And so well, what is our end goal? Because you could take precursors to that, right? And you could take things that will support your own endogenous production.

But at the end of the day, whenever you're putting any kind of peptide program together from somebody,

What are we trying to accomplish? Don't just take it to take it. And that's the thing, because people just do that. You know, you could do something, test a moral, and is, you know, going to tell your pituitary release a little growth hormone,

but it's going to be so pulsatile that it's,

you're never going to get into the realm of those side effects of H GH.

Like you would back in the old days when they would take that. It's not necessary anymore. You know, the joint pain and all of the symptoms that you would get from, from growth hormone. So there's other ways to do it, but I always say,

it has to be done with oversight that blind. I would be petrified to just take things to take them.

“But I think a lot of people, that's how I feel.”

Yeah, they're renegade, and they'll just do it. I've done that. Oh, don't worry, I have a question. And that was wrong. That was wrong.

She yells at me. She finds out. I was like, what are you doing? And where are you getting this from? No.

Because you guys have access to everything. You know, you have people in your ear that tell you, let me give you this, let me give you that. You're going to feel like a million bucks. You're going to, you're going to feel amazing.

And I get the, I get how appealing it is.

But it should, it should always,

there should always be a method to the madness. I mean, I've had debates with Dolores, is fiance about this. We joke back and forth. I'm like, you're doing, you do X, Y, and Z,

because of what I see, and this is why we do it. So there needs to be a rationale,

“and it should never just be done blindly.”

I'll tell you this. Paul has been on her protocol now for a month. Not quite a month. Not quite a month. About we had more full two weeks now.

Okay. Fine. Paul's two weeks. Paul is a different person. He actually the trainer.

We share a trainer at the gym. I was at the gym yesterday. And the trainer said to me, people have been asking him and stopping Paul as he's walking out of the gym. That's why he looks so good.

Because whatever he's on, would you've given him, I see the whole vitamins. The lineup is over there. Takes up the whole counter.

But the loadedness has come out of his face and his body. He feels great. He goes to bed late, wakes up early, sharp, ready to go. And his workouts.

He said aren't insane. He's kind of feeling himself a little bit. So he's going to hold back. But my question is,

“is this something you have to be on the rest of your life?”

No, and that's a great question. That's the big thing. Because there is such a thing as receptor saturation, right? Which would then lead to receptor downregulation. So you have to take holidays from these things.

When I would have women that would plateau, say they were trying to lose some weight. And I walk a really funny line with GLPs and GIPs because they serve their purpose. And they are highly anti-inflammatory.

But when I get a woman on my biometric machine that starts to drop over 50% skeletal muscle, it's a hard no. She can't do it. So they take a break. And they often get better results when they take the break.

So typically 12 weeks on a cycle, maybe 12 weeks off. So you need to give yourself those breaks. And allow those receptors to then kind of not be dampened if you will so that they can respond when you integrate another cycle of something different.

So no, you don't have to stay on them forever. If you, so I do a lot of genetic testing on my practice. So if I identify, say, for instance, somebody has some variance or we call SNPs with the way that they detox and they or they have a gene deletion.

They're going to need support for the rest of their life. So it is very patient-dependent, but I will say universally. I don't tell people that they have to stay on any of this stuff forever. What do you think is better for you? I want metformin, been on metformin for years.

Sam was because of my sugar levels and they're always really, really high.

Me too. Free diabetic at times and runs my family. I'm an excellent resistant. I had talked to the doctor about the long term of being on metformin. Is it better to switch over to a microdozed GLP1

than to stay on metformin? So here's what I'll tell you. Both, I do the GLPGIP combat. And I've been taking, I take metformin for the anti-aging component to it. And my husband and I have had us doing that now for about the last week.

Do you think I really worked? I do. So if you go to there's a website called Gerroprotector.org. And it goes through all of the drugs that we have had in this country over the last 20-ish, maybe even longer years.

And how they anecdotally found these benefits, it's highly cancer-protective. My caveat when I use it with patients is, you know, it's very patient-dependent because you can have patients that are their MPK pathway gets impacted by metformin and they really become fatigued and tired. So you just have to lower that dose then.

But the cancer protection alone is just one of the reasons I probably will never get off of it. But as long as they have healthy kidney function and you're monitoring their EGFR,

But we personally, my husband and I do both. So what microdo is a GLP-1. We might skip a week or, you know, skip two weeks and then go back on it. But I personally like those fasting sugars to be in that 75-85 range.

“So when you microdo's, how many units would you do a week?”

Oh gosh. I would probably be at, if we're doing units, maybe five units, two to five units depends if I'm doing, because you depends on your concentration. Because when you get it from a compounding pharmacy, they're adding in usually like a B vitamin for nausea and then they're altering the dosing so that it's not like standardized dosing.

So it would just depend on your concentration that you have. But very, very, very low, very low. And honestly, in that instance, it isn't for food noise. It's not for weight loss. You're really doing it because you're getting that anti-inflammatory benefit.

That's a medication. Gotcha. Now, people, a lot of people are talking about retitude type right now.

“Is that like the new GLP one that people are switching over to?”

Is I know it's not FDA approved yet? Well, so many of the things that we use and do are not FDA approved. Right.

So I always like to point that out.

But it's not, I have concerned about where people are getting it because it's any any legitimate, good 503A pharmacy is not compounding it because of where it sits with clinical trials and so most people that are using it are getting research use only. I work with about 12 different compounding pharmacies and I'm really OCD about the pharmacies. I work with their sterility components, their traceability records and none of them are making it.

But it is a triple agonist. So I do believe that people that may be even struggle on terzepotide. Even if you've added in what's called cagralinatide at times that they may benefit from retitude type when we're able to get it. But anybody that's on it now, they're not getting it from a good source. How far out are we before it's FDA approved you figure?

You know, I honestly don't know the answer to that. I don't because it's not available to me to prescribe for patients. I don't really, I haven't done a whole lot of homework on where they sit with their research and their trials. But there is promises. Some of the preliminary data I've read is pretty promising as far as the way they've lost. So for people that are suffering with morbid obesity, it's going to be a great option for them.

But, you know, it's still going to have a GLP1 and a GIP, and then the glucogon. So it still has the formula of what we see in semate and terzepotide. For a woman that's, let's say, maybe going through menopause or 50 plus, what do you think are the best things that they can take? I would say that most of my, my menopausal. So this, this will be an interesting one.

I do have to share with you because of your background bodybuilding. Believe it or not, I use a lot of oxandrolone, low dose, which is anFR. Very low dose. So there are a recent study as as recent as last year, 2025, that did a systematic review of something like 20 different studies. Very low hepatic burden.

So very, very minimal impact on the liver.

And it is incredible. And I even wrote it down because I wanted to quote it free.

We found in that systematic review of those 24 studies. And increase in lean body mass, increase in bone mineral density, increase in bone mineral content. And in increase in the bone health, by obviously acting directly on the osteoblastic cells. And the reason why I bring that up is because what's the number one thing we start to worry about in women and menopause is bone process. Correct.

And we are so quick to throw by phosphinets and then there's a new FDA approved drug for bone loss.

“And the side effects you have to love are osteonecrosis of the jaw.”

And I'm like, you know, I will take any day of the week, a little blip in my liver enzymes and put on muscle mass using low dose anFR before you would ever put me on by phosphinet. Or any of these newer great to know is newer drugs. So and typically the women that I have them that I have do 12 week cycles when I get them on my biometrics machine. I do see an increase by about 10% of their bone mineralization. Does it help with muscle tend as well? Oh my gosh, yeah. I mean, Dolores can show you when you look at Kristen in 2019 versus me now.

My I finally at 55 hit about 88% skeletal muscle.

And that was a big deal for me because I kept writing around 60 to 70%. So, you know, obviously I do all the progressive overload. I lift pretty regularly, but it was really nice to get over that curve finally with the muscle and putting it on. My problems right now in 58 or energy level. Skin. Skin.

And just again getting saggy. I mean, I have the worst recipe. I'm like Irish.

And you know, it doesn't hold up that great. We're we're twinning. Yeah.

“Do you have you, um, are you doing any estrogen at all, estrogen or placement at all?”

I have estrogen and I'm the worst at it. I always forget to use it.

You don't want to just do the little patch on your butt. I have a to I've only had the cream. So I've now do the patch. You change it twice a week. Yeah. And then you don't have to think about it. Oh, okay. I'll do that. Well, I'll give you a call after this.

Yeah. Get some shit going. Get your recipe improved. I'm lost in muscle test. That's my whole thing. Like I can work out and try in every single day and I just feel like I don't know if it's the skin that's not.

Not looking so great. There's muscle underneath it, but it's that's my biggest complot. I will have to send you over the info sheet to read a little bit on doing some low to uh, oxygen. I'm telling you, it has been a game changer for my postmenopausal women.

Truly, truly, truly. I mean, you, you, you, I always say for, especially for us in this age range, right? We were, we were taught like, oh, it's downhill from here.

That muscle is truly your currency for longevity.

Right. There's nothing else that will replace it. Okay. Okay. Well, this is all great information.

We think well, so much. Thank you. No, I want to get your, your contact information. So we can chat. Do you know what you deal with people in different states?

I am. I am like a multiple states. Yes, I think just the biggest thing, honestly, that I want to promote is done well and done right, peptides can truly be life-changing for people. And I mean, there are just a list of them that we make that our own body makes.

So I don't want them to be vilified. I just would encourage people to make sure that they're doing them under the guidance of somebody that's going to look at their labs and make sure that they're okay. And, um, you know, strategize with them so that they can feel their best. Awesome.

And where can people find you on social media? Uh, just find my name. Kristen, Henanyan NP. Can you spell your last name? That's not an easy one.

I know. I need to go back to the old Irish easy last name. Yeah. It's H-A-N-E-N-I-A-N. Got you.

It's a mouthful. But thank you so much.

I always love talking about anything health.

I am so intrigued with all of this. It's very interesting. It's very interesting. I'm curious about everything every time I speak to you. So, well, you guys look great.

So keep doing whatever you're doing. And, um, and hopefully we'll talk soon. Okay. Thanks. Thank you, Kristen.

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