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Pam Bondi Out, Iran Charges Strait Tolls, International Meeting on Hormuz

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Attorney General Pam Bondi is out after facing backlash for the Justice Department's mishandling of the Epstein files and failing to deliver the prosecutions of President Trump's enemies.Iran is forma...

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Tell us what you like or don't like about up first. Help us out by answering a few questions online. Go to npr.org/springsurvey. That's npr.org/springsurvey. Say what you think. Thanks. Pambaddi's time as attorney general is over. She obeyed the president's demands to read partisan talking points and prosecute political opponents but lost his confidence over the handling of the Epstein files. I mean, Martinez, that is steep in sheep and this is a first from npr news.

Iran is considering charging up to $2 million per ship to allow passage through the

straight-of-horse moves. They are comparing the transit through the straits to say what Egyptian government does with the Suez Canal. How long will Iran make money off of other countries oil? The U.S. and Israeli war drastically increased the hazards of passing the straight. Then the United States seemed to abandon efforts to secure it so what to 40 other nations planned to do about it.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi is out. Yeah, Bondi made history as attorney general going to exceptional lengths to make the justice department subservient to the political whims of her boss.

Federal prosecutor spent tax dollars seeking indictments of the president's political opponents.

And they were repeatedly accused of misleading judges or defying court orders. But there was at least one way that Bondi displeased the president. For that, we turned now to npr supreme court and Justice correspondent Kerry Johnson, if it has anything to do with the law, Kerry covers it. Kerry, good morning. Good morning Steve. What did Pam Bondi not do for Trump? The White House thinks she mishandled law enforcement files related to the convicted sex

offender Jeffrey Epstein. Last year, Bondi brought in a group of maga personalities, gave them

binders of papers. But the Trump loyalists said those were old news and then in an interview with Fox

News, Bondi went further. The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well, that really happened. It's sitting on my desk right now to review later DOJ said there was no such client list, which only added fuel to conspiracy theories. Eventually, Justice did make some files public, but lawmakers say a lot remains hidden in some of what DOJ did release more names or images of victims of Epstein's abuse. Bondi didn't set for a deposition in Congress

later this month, but it's not clear now whether that's going to happen. Now, A mentioned that Bondi did make efforts to prosecute the president's political opponents. People the president didn't like. How did that turn out? The irony is that she tried to advance criminal cases against Trump's perceived enemies, but judges and grandjuries and many cases did not seem to be buying that.

Cases against the former FBI director Jim Comi, New York Attorney General Tish James.

Those got thrown out. Another grand jury refused to indict Democratic lawmakers who made a video telling service members to follow their oaths and disobey illegal orders. But Trump wanted to see more. More cases against California Senator Adam Schiff, former CIA director John Brennan,

the problem is there may not be evidence to do that. Traditionally, prosecutors need to be confident

they'd win a conviction before they bring any kind of case. So what do you see as the legacy of this distinctive attorney general? It's really a big legacy. She presided over a massive exodus at the Justice Department, hundreds of prosecutors and FBI agents now gone reshaping the institution. The founder of a group that supports DOJ workers says Bondi took a sledgehammer to the place and no one's done more to degrade DOJ's independence or integrity in the department's

155-year history. Judges, of course, have criticized the department for blowing off orders. Great, sure. He's pretty frequently declined to bring indictments which almost never happened before last year. And some of the top leaders in the FBI who were fired last year have sued, they say they were ousted for political reasons because they were not sufficiently loyal to Donald Trump. And the nonprofit and advocacy group public citizens as Bondi's departure shows no one

can be loyal enough for Trump. Well, what do you know about Todd Blanche? Who will mention is the Deputy Attorney General now running the DOJ day today? He's a former personal lawyer to Trump. There's been a lot of angling in and outside the administration over who might become the next Attorney General on a permanent basis. Of course, that person would require confirmation from the Senate and the administration may want to move this year in case the Senate changes hands

in the mid-term elections. And Pierre's Kerry Johnson, thanks so much. Thank you. Iran is formalizing a system to make ships pay transit fees to pass through the

Straight of hormones.

of the world's oil and gas passes. It's a side effect of the U.S. and Israeli war on Iran.

And Pierre International Affairs correspondent Jackie Northam is covering this jacket. Good morning, Steve.

Okay, so I'm just picturing it. There's a captain of a ship and they've got a Venmo some money ashore or something. How's it actually work? Okay. Well, the shipping analyst and crisis management groups that I've spoken with say it starts actually with government to government negotiations. And if Iran agrees that a ship can sail through the straight of hormones, it's given a code, which will be broadcast over VHF radio to the Iranian Navy. And then the

ship will be escorted into Iranian territorial waters than onto the straight which is international

waterway. A senior Iranian lawmaker suggested the fees could be upwards of $2 million per vessel.

I spoke with Jack Kennedy and he's with S&P Global Market Intelligence and he says this tool system, Steve is really about Iran trying to claim sovereignty over the straight of hormones. They are comparing the transit through the straight to say what the Egyptian government does

with the Suez Canal, which is to have a told-day system. Obviously, that's not a like for

like comparison, but you can see where the Iranian leadership was trying to push that narrative. And you know, at the moment, Steve, the told system seems ad hoc. Some ships, including those from India and Pakistan and China, have worked out deals diplomatically and any Iranian owned or flag vessel won't be charged. And any ship with links to the US or Israel will not be allowed to pass full stop. And you know, and let's say it's unlikely this system is going to work.

You know, it would be hard to get regional buy and to have something like the told system in the Suez Canal. And you know, and opening the straight, they say it's just going to happen through diplomacy. It's the best answer. It does sound though that at least some oil is moving through the straight. Yeah, you know, but it's both slow and still precarious. You know, it's just not, not just oil and oil products that are stuck in the straight. There are

a lot of critical components, also on ships helium, which is an important component for semi-conductors.

And fertilizer cost has gone up more than 20 percent and aluminum, which is in short supply now

in the US. You know, President Trump slapped 50 percent tariffs on aluminum, including from Canada, which was the US biggest supplier. And Canadians went looking elsewhere for customers, mostly in Europe. So the US has had to turn to the Middle East for aluminum from Bahrain and the UAE. Now, those supplies, destined for the US, are stuck in the straight-up for moves. Ironic, the President, of course, addressed the nation was to evening and he gave

general timeline of egg timeline talk to another two or three weeks of intense strikes on Iran. Has that actually been happening since? That's right. And Trump threatened to send Iran back to quote the Stone Age. Thursday, the US took out a key bridge important for Iran's military supply lines. And Trump threatened to hit more civilian infrastructure, including power plants next week. Iran in return has stepped up. It's a tax showing it still has firepower and Wednesday evening

into Thursday morning was one of the heaviest bombardments of Israel. And there have been a number of strikes overnight across the Gulf States. Iran's revolutionary guard corps has also threatened to target the Middle East operations of US tech companies such as Nvidia and Amazon and Apple. If any more Iranian leaders are assassinated, and there are quite a number of these tech companies in the Gulf region, as those states try to diversify their economies. Jackie, thanks so much.

I always appreciate talking with you. Thanks, Steve. That's NPR's Jackie Northam.

Now, UK hosted an international meeting looking for ways to reopen the straight-of-hormous. President Trump briefly made threats to Iran to reopen the waterway. When that failed, the President claimed he didn't care, and that it was other countries problem. Now, the other countries are considering what to do. NPR's Fatima Al-Kasab was following the discussions and is on the line from London, either. Hi, Steve. Welcome. So, for better or worse,

I guess this is essentially a meeting on Zoom. Is that right? That is right. It was a virtual call. It was hosted by the UK's Foreign Secretary of Vancouver. She was keen to stress that over 40 countries took part, including representatives from European countries, Canada, the United Arab Emirates. But, of course, not the US or Israel, the countries that launched the war. Cooper said the rest of the world had been left to deal with the consequences,

though, which is why she was organizing this meeting. She said that by blocking the straight-of-hormous, Iran was hijacking a global shipping route, and she said, holding the global economy hostage. This is hitting the trading routes for Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi, Iran, Iraq. But that means liquid natural gas per Asia, fertilizer for Africa, and jet fuel for the world. And she said that traffic through the

straight had plunged from 150 ships a day to between 10 to 20 ships a day. So, this meeting was about diplomatic and economic measures that these countries can take both now and after the

Fighting stops to help secure the shipping route.

foreign secretary did say that military planners from these same countries would get together next

week to think about defensive capabilities, again, for securing the straight once the fighting

stops. Okay, President Trump told other countries the other day to take and quote "chairish" the straight sounds like they're not doing that or not trying that right away. But what measures are they suggesting? Yeah, not quite that. They did discuss a range of things, and they were really just discussing them at this point, including putting more diplomatic pressure on Iran, including via the UN, and rejecting any attempt by Iran to impose tolls on ships passing through.

They said they explored the option of sanctions to bear down on Iran if the straight stays

closed, but they didn't agree on anything concrete. They also talked about working with the

international maritime organization to try to help about 20,000 sailors and thousands of ships

that are currently stuck in the straight. But Britain's Foreign Secretary said this is just the first step.

What are other leaders saying? Yeah, so we had France's President Emmanuel Macron saying yesterday that the idea of using force to reopen the straight, something Trump has suggested, is unrealistic. He said that would leave cargo ships vulnerable to Iranian attacks. He criticized Trump's threats to pull out of NATO too, here he is speaking in Seoul yesterday. These organizations, as militants, are involved by...

He says that by casting doubt on the US commitment to NATO, Trump is eroding the very substances of the alliance. Now, US allies have repeatedly said they're not going to get involved militarily in the hot phases of the war, despite Trump's calls for them to do so. Okay, can these other countries having had their call get anything done? Well, yeah, so it is, as well as kind of showing to Trump that they're starting to do something, it's also about looking ahead if the US does

unilactually walk away, and they're forced to go to Lone and negotiate directly with the Iranians. One analyst I spoke to Mitch Tabaraman from the risk analysis firm, the Iranian group, described the meeting as a bit of a Trump management exercise though. He says that as long as the US and Israel are bombarding Iran, Iran is unlikely to be responsive to any diplomatic outreach from these countries. MPR's Fatima Al-Kasab in London, thanks so much. Thank you, Steve.

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