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Pentagon Exodus Under Hegseth, Venezuela Oil and Democracy, Clancy Trial Deadlocked

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The Pentagon is losing experienced leaders under Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, raising concerns about depleted weapons stockpiles and the military’s ability to manage a prolonged war with Iran.Presi...

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How much brain power and experience is leaving the U.S. military?

Defense Secretary Pete Hengseth dismissed many officers.

The Army Secretary who defended some also resigned. We have an assessment of the military taking fire from within. I'm Michelle Martin, Bestie Vinsky, and this is up first from NPR News. [MUSIC]

President Trump cast doubt on elections in Venezuela. I just don't think they're ready yet. You know, it's very new. We took them out of a dictatorship. His energy secretary Chris Wright was in Karakas signing oil deals with that same regime.

His Trump choosing oil over democracy. Also the judge told a deadlock jury to keep trying to decide the fate of Lindsey Clancy for lawyers contend that postpartum psychosis was behind the killing of her three children. Stay with us.

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your next podcast binge-listen, you can have it all in one place, your pocket. Download the NPR app today. The U.S. military has been taking fire from within. Defense Secretary Pete Heggseth has dismissed a stream of senior officers since the early days of the Trump administration.

The dismissals began with the president's top military advisor, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, including many officers who are women or black and people of all backgrounds with deep combat experience. This week, the Secretary of the Army resigned, an official appointed by President Trump, who had defended many of the officers. And Piers Quill Orange has been following all of this and has an assessment.

Quill, good morning, good morning. What's driving all the departures? Heggseth has an offered explanations publicly for any of these fireings. He has said separately that he's ridding the military of DEI hires and woke. The Army's top civilian leader, Dan Driscoll, also appointed by President Trump, resigned this week.

And this has been a long time coming. A Driscoll's close with Vice President J.D. Vance, both are Iraq vets, they met at Yale Law School.

And that may be part of why he was so prominent in the first months of this administration.

But when Defense Secretary Pete Heggseth accidentally leaked U.S. battle details to a journalist signal gate, there was speculation that Driscoll might replace him, and the tension has been building really ever since. OK, so there might have been this sort of personal tension, but was Driscoll also defending the uniform services against Heggseth. We know of a couple of cases where that went public. It may have been in many more cases, but Heggseth has sacked more than 10 generals.

He's also been quite unusually reaching down into the promotion lists to effectively end the careers of people who had already been carefully vetted. Many of those people have been black or female officers or generals who were just seem to be tainted, merely by serving with distinction under the Biden administration. I've reached out to Driscoll, I haven't heard back from him, but at least in one congressional hearing he went to bat for a general who'd been removed. And we know from a person close to Driscoll, it wasn't authorized to speak publicly, that Driscoll did have a final meeting with President Trump,

where he told him that Heggseth's arbitrary fireings are making it harder to modernize the military because really good people are getting fired. And it's hollowing out the senior ranks, and he also told Trump that the U.S. is losing the Iran War, that the war is draining the U.S. stockpiles of missiles, and then Driscoll handed in his resignation.

I'm glad you mentioned the war with Iran, what do all these personnel changes mean for ongoing operations?

Yeah, like you say, this is happening while the country is at war. And besides Iran, the administration's marking a year now since it started simply blowing up boats that are coming from South America on the suspicion that they're carrying drugs, but killing the sometimes unarmed people on board with no trial, no warning. Admiral Alvin Halsey was the head of South Com, Southern Command a year ago when these boats strikes began. And he resigned about two years before his term was up.

Halsey was among a tiny number of black flag officers.

He's never spoken publicly about why he resigned.

But now the administration was saying that this year of boat strikes has reduced the amount of drugs entering the U.S.

They haven't offered evidence to support that, but it's worth noting that the...

That operation was almost too quick to even call it a war, but a number of senior former military officials have said they think that President Trump came away from that thinking that

everything always goes to plan and wars and regime changes can be easy. And now the war in Iran is into its seventh month and there's a lot of turmoil within the ranks of the U.S. military.

And Pierce Quill Lawrence, thanks so much, really appreciate it. Thank you. The Trump administration is celebrating more agreements to give the U.S. access to Venezuela and oil. Energy Secretary Chris Wright was in Venezuela's capital Caracas on Wednesday. He appeared with acting President Del C. Rodrigues to announce new energy deals.

Today is his historic day in the transformation of Venezuela and the expansion of the possibilities for the Venezuelan people. The agreements come with the same authoritarian government that the U.S. once opposed. American troops captured Rodrigues' predecessor, Nicolas Maduro, but if the new boss is the same as the old boss, what does that mean for democracy? Reporter John Onus is following this from neighboring Colombia. John, good morning.

Good morning Steve. How did these energy agreements work?

Well, under the first agreement that was announced by Trump last Friday, the U.S. government will partner with Venezuela's second largest private oil company.

The White House says this will give the U.S. majority control of more than 65 billion barrels of

Venezuela and oil. Now, this is unusual because the U.S. government itself hasn't been directly involved in oil production since World War II. However, private companies had been wary of Venezuela. So, this was widely seen as the Trump administration trying to get the investment in ball rolling. The one big U.S. firm that answered Trump's call is Chevron. So, in a separate agreement, Chevron CEO, who was also in Caracas yesterday, pledged along with partners to invest $7 billion

over the next five years, he said that would double the company's output of Venezuela to about 500,000 barrels per day. What are Venezuela's saying about the United States going more fully into the oil business? Well, oil is a very emotional issue in Venezuela because it makes up more than 90 percent of its export income. And during its socialist revolution, the government forced out some foreign oil companies. In fact, I was in Venezuela back in 2007 when then president Uruguachavez

nationalized U.S. operated oil fields. There were these huge crowds dressed in revolutionary red

t-shirts and they were cheering him on. And so, that's why for a lot of people now, it's really

quite jarring to see their current president co-zying up to Trump and to Chevron. Now, critics claim that new oil deals are the result of Trump's gunboat diplomacy after removing Maduro and are therefore unconstitutional. But other say, Venezuela needs the foreign investment. The oil industries in terrible shape and is pumping just one-third of what was produced back in the 1990s. What does all of this mean for the effort to promote democracy in Venezuela? Well, the Trump

administration is sponsoring talks between the Rodriguez government and the political opposition, which is pushing for free elections. Remember Rodriguez was Nicolaas Maduro's vice president, and she was fully supportive of his repressive regime. In fact, her government still holds more than 300 political prisoners. But when he was asked at the White House on Wednesday, about new elections for Venezuela, Trump was skeptical. I just don't think they're ready yet.

You know, it's very new. We took them out of a dictatorship and we're getting along great with the government. Kelsey, as you know, is doing a very, very good job, very highly respected. No, for democracy activists, such statements show that Trump doesn't really care about a democratic transition that he'd vastly prefer dealing with the compliant Rodriguez rather than a more independent president. John Otis and Colombia, thanks so much. Thank you.

In Massachusetts, a jury is deadlocked in the murder trial of Lindsay Clancy. Clancy is standing

trial for killing her three children in 2023. Her defense has never denied that,

but says her actions were caused by serious postpartum psychosis. Juris told the judge twice they could not reach a unanimous decision, but the judge told them to keep going. This raises the possibility that this high profile case could end in a mistrial. Deborah Becker from Embracation, W. B. U. R. has been covering this trial and joins us to talk about this. Good morning. Good morning. What is happening to try to move the jury along in this

rather complicated case? Well, yesterday was the fifth day of deliberation. Still no verdict. So the

Judge took the step of issuing formal instructions telling the jurors to keep...

legal procedure called Tui Rodriguez instructions in Massachusetts and its design basically to

break an impasse. Judge William Sullivan told the jurors that they know the case best and should

try to reach consensus. There is no reason to suppose that the case will ever be submitted to 12 persons more intelligent, more impartial, or more competent to decide it. These are sort of a final step before a mistrial might be declared and that's according to John Thompson, a criminal defense attorney who's not involved in this case. It's the last ditch effort to salvage a verdict out of the trial. So the judge is reassuring them. You are the people who can do this, but what if they still

can't agree? Well, they've deliberated almost 30 hours so far. If they remain deadlocked today,

the judge could then declare a mistrial. Attorney Thompson is dealt with cases like this and says

it's a toss-up, really, as to whether jurors do come back with a verdict or remain divided. As a group, they have to be unanimously persuaded to come to the same decision. So that's a hard

thing to do, especially in a case like this. Clancy's attorneys argued the insanity defense saying

that she acted in the grips of postpartum psychosis. So this whole trial essentially has been a debate about her mental state. The jury's heard complex and sometimes bewildering testimony, prosecutors say Clancy rationally planned to kill her children. They reminded the jury of many of the horrific details of the children's violent deaths and they worked to convince them that she was sane. What if we do get to the point of a mistrial? What happens then? Then it's up to the

district attorney to decide whether to retry the case. The DA isn't commenting on that at the moment, but Clancy's attorney Kevin Reddington told reporters outside court yesterday that he's prepared to defend her again if need be. Yeah, I'm going to ask the judge. I had some motions to file if they come back with a verdict. We'll see what it is if they don't. We're ready to try it next week.

What's it like to be around the courthouse? Is everybody waits and waits?

Yeah, it's very tense. Several jury members appear to be really tired. Clancy's family members have been here throughout the trial. They also look wiped out. And after the judge read those instructions, Clancy's attorney put his hand on her shoulder and she leaned against him. We go experts expect that we will likely know the outcome of this case later today. It seems to me, Deborah, that the jury members are not the only people in the world who are really struggling with this idea of postpartum

psychosis and a defendant who doesn't deny on some level that she did it. Right. Yeah, there's a really divided atmosphere in court and certainly online there are dozens of media outlets here from around the world and sometimes court is almost circus-like at times. There are so many spectators here as well. This case really has resonated with a lot of people. I've spoken with several who shared their own postpartum experiences and frustrations with being heard and properly diagnosed

by mental health providers. During this trial, we heard about Clancy's repeated attempts to get help. She went to several clinicians. She was prescribed multiple medications. And many say this case really spotlights the difficulties in getting good mental health care, especially for new moms. Okay, Deb Becker from WBUR. Thanks for the insights. Welcome. And if you were someone you know is in crisis or you're thinking about hurting yourself,

you can call her text the suicide in crisis lifeline, 988.

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