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the American forces makes them safer. I'm Leila Faudin, that's Michelle Martin, and this is up first from NPR News. The UK, Canada, and France are moving to ban imports from Israeli settlements in the West bank. Britain says settler violence there amounts to ethnic cleansing, how is Israel responding to his allies?
At the hand of the Smithsonian is stepping down, Lami Bunch III worked at the research and museum complex for nearly four decades leading it for the past seven, his departure comes after the Trump administration accused the Smithsonian's programming of me anti-white and to negative about American history.
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Watch or listen to that wildcard conversation on the NPR app, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. has struck Iranian targets again, at this time bombing five Iranian oil tankers overnight. Iran struck back lighting up the night sky in Jordan as interceptors tried to stop missiles
hurdling at U.S. troops at an air base there. All this, as the turmoil pushes Brent crude oil prices over a hundred dollars a barrel again today. Joining us to talk about the latest attacks and how this might affect U.S. strategy in the region is NPR International correspondent, Ayya Batou in Dubai, good morning, Ayya.
Good morning, Michelle.
“So could you start us off with what happened last night?”
U.S. Central Command says it destroyed five Iranian oil carriers in the Gulf of Alman and off of Iran's Carg Island. Now, Senkham says it did give notice to crews aboard those ships to abandon them before they were bombed, and it says that these attacks were in response to Iranian missile attacks on a U.S. Navy warship that were successfully evaded.
So since Saturday, Michelle, we now have the U.S. striking eight Iranian crude oil tankers, and this is another bloated Iran's economic lifeline that goes beyond the aggressive sanctions that are already in place and the existing U.S. naval blockade on Iran's oil shipments. What was Iran's response?
Well, Iran's revolutionary guard says it targeted U.S. vessels and oil tankers as well
as 10 ships trying to transit through the state of her moves with U.S. help. Now, there's no confirmation on what was hit from those attacks. But Iran also attacked U.S. troops at an air base in Jordan. Jordan says it intercepted all but two of Iran's 20 missiles last night. It says there were no deaths recorded, but Michelle had made no mention of injuries from
those attacks. And one more thing, Iran also released visuals yesterday of an underwater U.S. naval drone that it captured. One of Iran's official accounts on X described it as one of America's most mysterious underwater toys, now in Iran's possession.
And all of this just shows how Iran remains undeterred in the face of sustained U.S. military pressure. Iran has been targeting American assets and tropes in the region since the start of the war.
“And this brings up the bigger question, what is the U.S. strategy now in the region?”
Exactly. And that is unclear. And there's also little discussion around the future of the U.S. footprint in the region. In part, that's because permanently pulling back troops now could signal weakness to Iran and
other adversaries like Russia and China, and U.S. bases in Gulf Arab states in Jordan were meant to be a deterrence, but they've actually been used to attack Iran. And it's partly why Iran has now attacked these countries throughout the war. So Arab allies are broadening their defense ties with other countries and waiting really for the U.S. to show what its path forward is going to be.
Meanwhile, you have the Pentagon under Secretary Pete Hexeth not being forthcoming about damage to U.S. bases from this war, and the Trump administration asking satellite companies to censor their images over the Gulf still. We do know that in Bahrain, where the Navy's fifth fleet was hit by Iran, there were some 8,000 military personnel there.
Now it's less than 100. I asked Mackenzie Eaglein, who's with the American Enterprise Institute, and his co-chair of the National Commission on the Future of the Navy about this lack of transparency. It's hugely damaging, just one for President settling, because it's not how we operate in a federal public, and to it's not going to help Congress grapple with, you know, how
is our military performing, how are we ahead, how are we behind, what could we do differently,
What could we do better?
I'm sure one indication though of how things are going actually came from the chief of
Naval Operations Daryl Coddle.
“He was asked last week during a live stream.”
When sailors would be able to go back to Bahrain to pick up their personal belongings. When his answer was, we are not going back in there any time soon. That is, and Pierre International correspondent Abe or Charlie Injubei. Thanks, Andrea. Thanks, Michelle.
Israel reacted with anger and defiance to yesterday's announcement that the United Kingdom would impose trade sanctions on Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. Britain's Foreign Minister called the Bayon Necessary to stop settlement expansion and Israeli settler violence against Palestinians there. He accused what he called settler terrorists of ethnic cleansing, Canada, and France joined
the effort and imposed their own sanctions intensifying international pressure on Israel from
long time allies. For more on Israeli and Palestinian reactions, we go now to Enriqueus Caricon, who isn't Tel Aviv Carigan morning. Good morning, Michelle. So I understand that Israeli officials were rather indignant and retaliated quickly after
the UK announcement. What did they say? Britain Minister Gideon Sar called the UK statements about Israel's candid in the West Bank outrageous lies. He said they were morally distorted and anti-Semitic areas.
I say to the Labor government and to every government in the world, the things, it can force Israel to act against our national and security interests. You have no chance of succeeding. The retaliation two was quick, they announced the closure of the British conflict in East Jerusalem that office mainly deals with Palestinian affairs and they had a list ready of British representatives
that are now barred and expelled from Israel.
“What about the reaction from Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied West Bank?”
The Palestinian authorities president put out a statement yesterday welcoming the sanctions. In the West Bank, we spoke with Suleman Duwabshay, the chairman of Dumah, Palestinian village. He said he wished the sanctions had been firmer. These decisions he says for us will have an impact and that means a law for Palestinian in the West Bank, but he said he doubts Israel will make any changes because he says the
government does not respect international law. His town has been hit extremely hard by settler violence, several residents have been killed by settler since October 7th, and cars and homes have been burned. The UN says there have been more than 3,000 attacks by settlers in the West Bank since October 7th, 2023, and in this year alone, Michelle, the UN says at least 79 Palestinians
have been killed by settlers and Israeli troops. But apart from the political fallout that you're just telling us about, will this trading ban actually affect Israel economically? The short answer, no, most exports from the West Bank are agricultural and Israel's total
“agricultural exports to the UK are very low.”
And that's according to Iran, yes, sheave. He's an economist at Tel Aviv University, but he did tell me that sanctions could be damaging if the entire European Union, Israel's overall top trading partner were to join in. If this becomes a big, wide sanctions move, which is not the case right now, then it will make a difference, not what's being imposed right now.
And sanctions won't take effect for months, he said, "Israelis go to the polls and late October and could elect a new government, which could trigger sanctions relief, but I have to tell you that none of the leading candidates are discussing settlement expansion or the rising West Bank violence, and they especially are not discussing a two-state solution with the Palestinians.
That is, and Perse Caricon, joining us from Tel Aviv, carry, thank you. You're welcome. The head of the Smithsonian Institution, Montagey Bunch III, says he will retire at the end of the year. Bunch has spent nearly four decades with the Smithsonian, first is a curator, then is the head
of the National Museum of African American History and Culture. He took over the top position at the Smithsonian in 2019 and said yesterday, he's going to step down. It follows more than a year of criticism from President Trump and his administration about the Smithsonian who have called the Institution Radical and Divisive.
And Perse Andrew Limbong is covering this. Good morning, Andrew. Morning, Michelle. Why is Bunch retiring now? We'll see here.
And until it is just time, here's what he told MPR in an interview last night when asked
why now. Because I'm old, is there? The reality is that after 38 years, I've been able to accomplish so much. I've learned so much. I've built such great relationships.
And now I want to make sure that I have time to write, to think, but really to bore my
Grandkids to death, and now's the moment to do it.
Yeah.
“There's a lot he's not saying there, especially when you take into account all the recent”
attacks, President Trump and his administration have levied against the Smithsonian. But Bunch has denied any insinuation that his leaving had to do with pressures from the President. Say more about those attacks, if he was for people who haven't been following them. Yeah.
The President and his administration have been trying to paint the Smithsonian as a radical activists, right? In 2025, Trump issued an executive order criticizing exhibits and programs that quotes "degrade shared American values of," for example, the E.O. single-down and art exhibit about the history of sculpture and racism in America.
Japan had to July of this year. The administration issued a longer-port criticizing the National Museum of American History for moving towards extreme political activism and last month, the Department of the Interior said that the executive departments can't support the Smithsonian under the current leadership.
Like I said, Bunch has denied that his retirement has anything to do with these criticisms. But his statement announcing the retirement said that he was leaving with mixed emotions. Now, Bunch started out as a curator at Aaron Space. He went to move on to American History in the National Museum of American History and Culture.
But in his current role, he's in charge of all of the Smithsonian's museums, libraries, research centers, the National Zoo. Can you just say a little bit about what he's accomplished?
“I mean, two pandas came to the National Zoo under his standard, remember?”
That was a big deal. He got the ball rolling on two new history museums. One focused on women's history and another on the history of the American Latino. But he said that one of the big goals of his role as head of the Smithsonian was to help Americans embrace ambiguity and see America as a really complicated place.
And say more about him. Yeah, well, Michelle, you've interviewed him tons of times, right? He's got this breadth of knowledge about history, right?
Actually, on top of him, being the first African American to leave the Smithsonian, he was
the first historian to do so. You ran through his career first as a curator. But then in '05, he became the founding director of the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture. And this is before that museum even had a building, right?
And so he spent more than a decade thinking about that museum's collection with the physical manifestation of African American history would look and feel like the basic, like, nuts and bolts of constructing a building until it opened to the public in 2016. One of the most visited museums in the world.
“And Andrew, remember when the museum opened, the demand for tickets were so high, I think,”
at the website, broke, yeah, like for a while, it was the place to go in DC, which actually took a bunch by surprise.
Here's what he told MPHR a year after the museum opened.
I didn't expect it to become a pilgrimage site so soon. It's really become a place where you see both intergenerational sharing and really sort of interracial dialogues. And I didn't expect that. I also didn't expect so many credits.
You know, we thought we'd get 4,000 people a day, we're getting 6,7,8,000 a day. Didn't expect that. And so, you know, Michelle, I think whatever the future holds for him or for this Smithsonian, that building will be his last legacy. That is, and Pia's Andrew Limbhang, Andrew, thank you.
Thanks, Michelle.
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