#3239 RHOP S10E20 Reunion 3 Part Two: Sharin’ is Karen

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If you miss part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So now we have our food footage, unsin footage, and Karen and Wendy are sitting talking.

And Karen's like, well, when your back was against the wall, and people were attacking your mother, calling on a witch, I had your back.

“And my question to you is, why were you waving, unwaving and spotted me?”

And Wendy's like, when people are dragging about the DUI thing, I have held you down till today. So for you to specifically bring up my mother thing, and then use the W words towards my mom. I would expect what you did from the other ladies,

but I wouldn't have expected that from you. So here we go, Wendy. And now Wendy has decided to double down and twist that even more.

And she says, well, you went first.

You betrayed me. You called my mother a witch. No, she did not call your mother a witch. Just stop it. She said, when people called your mother a witch,

I stood up for you. It's not the same thing, and you know it. Yeah. That feels like she was like, she saw a way in. And it was like, oh, she called my mother a witch.

I can run with this. But let me know instantly alive this show becomes with Karen back on it. I mean, instantly.

“Like all of Wendy's bullshit is like immediately exposed”

I felt like with Karen being here. Wendy's called out. And she's like, 'cause everybody else is like,

Oh my god, Wendy, Wendy, you're so amazing.

Congratulations on your nomination to prison. Oh, you betrayed me. You call my mother a witch? Oh, which? Well, that's, I mean, Cynthia Reeves a witch.

What's, what's not? It's a great honor. What are you talking about? Oh, for you to sit here and act like I took some pride and using that word discussed.

You would think I took pride in saying the word witch. I'm like, you guys, the word witch. I understand that there's cultural, cultural elements that are, you know, that are different for Wendy and her mother. But it's also like, it's just hilarious because they're,

they're acting like it's the C word. But I guess that is, that is the cultural difference there. So I can say that.

“Yeah, but that would fight with a knack of fight and me up.”

I think that wasn't, you know. I mean, mostly she started. Let's never forget. Yeah, when would Ashley start it? So I'm pleased.

So Karen's like, well, I'm saying very, let me, I want to make a very, very clear. We're on rhyme. I'm sorry. They didn't understand that.

I'm wearing a regular. Well, I'm, I don't, I do want to say this though. I mean, very clear. I know this respect to you. Are you any of three musketeers, Mark Karen?

I've had it injected in for my love, actually. It's delicious. It's a slow release. Slow release. Now listen, notice respect to your mother.

I do your mother. I particularly love when she told you to shut the fuck up this season. And I started cracking up and then everyone else was like, I can't believe it. Wendy was traumatized.

My mother Kelly got a shut the fuck up. How bad you were. What was a sensitive scene? Yeah, Karen thought she was like, ah, this is a good read. And everyone was offended by it.

By the way, it is also hilarious that like Karen's, Karen's like most famous thing that she says consistently is, it may be very clear. But she now has to say it while literally having a lip hanging down to her chin, a top lip.

And she literally cannot be clear. What is the overall? It's like, I actually would love it if you could be very clear right now. Good luck with that. So, you guys cannot keep bringing Wendy's mother on TV and

letting her spread whatever messiness she's going to spread. And then act like such victims when anybody talks about what her mother says on the TV, then stop bringing her on here. But you guys can't bring her on here. Then act so offended when anybody just repeats what she says.

Come on. I actually am going to be a little sympathetic towards the situation. The reason why is Wendy's mom was being a terror that day. And Wendy's mom was being so mean. And Wendy's mom was like really verbally berating her.

I know we talked about it. And there's like, you know, it's a, it's not a black and white situation.

But ultimately it was still her mother being like,

Oh, Wendy's shot the fuck up.

Her mom was being mean to her. And so for Karen by her, I know Karen was just trying to be like, clever and funny. But I shot the fuck up, Wendy.

But basically what she was saying is like doubling down like,

yes, your mom should have told you to shot the fuck up.

“I think that's how it landed, which is why everyone was like,”

ew. I still left it because Wendy brought her mother on TV that day to stump for her father, who ditched the family and completely abandoned the mother. So I say, you know, she had been pushing her mother over and over again on that. And the mom was finally like, shut the fuck up.

You're not going to get me on here and make me look like a bad guy for not being totally pro your dad when your dad is in a band in her low life. Like, I'm not going to do it and fuck you. You know, now did she go a little far? Yes, but that's your mother.

And you knew what you were doing when you brought her on TV and purposely poked her. So I think Wendy did that to herself. I say, I think she was trying to pull a Bronwyn and get some pity from having a mom who treats her like that. But you poked her.

Well, Andy is like, well, okay. Well, that was a very rough scene for her. Much like prison will probably be. But are you both feeling betrayed for you? I think they are.

They are, but Andy says, you're both feeling betrayed by the other for different reasons.

Yes, yes, and I'm working with a pro. Well, we're going to the pro and that's Raven really. She's teaching me about vertical videos. Did you know that that's how you do it on Instagram? Well, I guess we're not going to solve this one today.

So let's move forward for the last five years. All right, let's have a doctor Wendy clip. Okay, it's the doctor Wendy segment. Let's just do Dr. Wendy of A. So we see clips of them being happy and then starting happy.

Yeti and happy. Yeti is expanding and then the house remodel. And then the mom blowing up on her and then the arrest. And we come back and just Ellen Ashley and Karen are just chatting.

“So like, oh my god, it's just so over the storyline, huh?”

Angel, what did you mean when you said you hope justice is served? Well, I want justice to get to know me. And once they do get to know me, they'll see them a very bubbly effervescent person. But I also hope that Wendy gets her day in court because for me,

it shocked me because of all the indictments of me from throughout the season. And I had become a whipping boy of sorts because she was going to do something privately that she wasn't sharing with the group and using me as a red herring. So everyone in America. It's nice to see that the real victim is as angel.

The real victim and Wendy's arrest. Angel. Yes. So Ashley's like, well, that's a reach. Wendy, what are your initial reactions to hearing what some of the ladies had to say in that package? Because in the package that we see there, you know, they're talking about all the counts.

And she's like, oh, when the feds come for you, they've got that case wrapped up tight. Dark rule. You've got the degrees. That was not a smart crime.

And T.S. saying, well, Jerry is just a stigmatized as being scammers. We get a bad rep. Enough as it is. This wasn't fair to us.

So Wendy's like, well, listen, going on the past three or four months have been hell. So when you've hit rock bottom, people's opinions of you don't peer to you anymore. Oh, I know.

Someone who's hit rock bottom many, many times. There's an on alcohol. Like, I'm with you, Wendy. All right. You don't come across exactly very concerned about that clip.

We just saw, do you stand by everything you said? And Karen's like, Yeah, I stand by everything I said in that clip. And I was actually genuinely shocked when I heard about it. Because like, when I think about Wendy,

it's like, and I said, I'm like, this season. I feel like this was like something that when you already knew that she was going through and like, let her release it's everybody.

She basically does the same thing that Angel does,

which is like, oh, the reason I Wendy was so mean to me this season is because she was going through it. And so now it makes sense. So yeah, I definitely get it because she wasn't because I had to be the person.

She took it all out on that, because she was stressed because she was committing her crime. No, Karen, you came in going after Wendy all season for not saying hi to you as she was giving a speech on a stage. Okay.

And Angel jumped in. So I don't know what you two are trying to make up now, but it's not that deep. So to those, I was like, well, I do not feel like this was something that Wendy knew.

Wow. Because we worked hard to get to a good place. And of course, my heart goes out to your children. Nah.

“But I cannot remember whether or not you had the break in before”

after the conversation, but you said, Eddie paid all the bills and all that. So we see a clip of Wendy saying, oh, wow, guys in 2024 saying,

I don't know how to pay my mortgage. I have no idea. Like, I don't even know when it's due. I don't know how my light company is paid. Like, I don't know.

How do I do it? I think, as you say, I think this was like, Josel's way to be like,

remember you had this conversation. You, this is your way to sort of like, Trisa due to I said, Okay.

Josel's way. Play dumb. Yeah, you know. But it kind of goes to Karen's point. Like you did all the stuff was coming,

which is why you went on camera and tried to make it. Look like I have no idea about finances.

And of course, I like Wendy.

And so when this happened,

I was like, I don't want to say I was dupped.

“I want to say I was extremely disappointed.”

And you'd only be disappointed. If you believe the person's guilty, you know, I'm not going to say that Wendy is guilty guilty guilty guilty. I will just say,

I'm disappointed that she doesn't seem more innocent, die. Like what you, Josel's best is saying like, yeah,

she did it. Right? Like you're not disappointed if someone's innocent. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crappy commercial.

So Andy is like, Oh, Wendy, what are your reactions? What you're hearing? If you would like,

you could put on your baby voice. Well, just the point of quality. My home was broken into in 2024. And it was way before we started filming season.

Yes, she really does do that baby thing like part of the core. So she tells the story that we've all read. If you've read about this, she,

they went on vacation. The daughter comes downstairs when they get back and says, So we made a mess.

And thought we thought dog.

And she's like, you know, but we took our talks to the Torgi Hotel. How could they make a mess? And then Eddie went to see and came downstairs.

And said, baby, something happened. And we called 911 and we reported a burglary. And there's a reason I'm saying this,

as it relates to K statement, because that was in 2024. And fast forward October 9th, 2025, we give it knock at the door.

And they're like, hey, I'm the cop who, you know, came to check on your burglary.

She's like, oh my God, if you found the burglary, and he said, your house wasn't robbed.

Don't don't don't. And then she's like, I have to say, I mean, Wendy is so convincing.

I was like, oh my God, she's, this isn't late. And then I was like,

oh yeah, but there's like files and files. There's like so much evidence. It's so bad. But she's very convincing to me.

I mean, of course, she didn't know. I believe that she didn't know that they were going to arrest her. Because that's kind of what they're talking about,

right? Like, Did Wendy know that they were going to arrest her?

“And that's why she was acting like this.”

She was setting up a case, and acting like trying to get everybody against the other girls, because she was trying to deflect from her own case. I don't think that she knew that a case was happening. I think that they were investigating her,

and that she thought she got away with it, and told they came together. Yeah. So Andy's like, well, Karen,

you just went to jail. What do you think? She's like, wow, first of all, I wish you all children the absolute best.

My heart goes out to them. Also, you know, whatever you're going through, I'm hoping you would be dismissed,

because I need, I need you to go home to your children. And remember how before I just told you to shut the fuck up, and everyone gasped,

and basically my shade didn't really land right.

Let me just re-contextualize it that way you actually see that I'm, I said it from place of concern. I'm like, okay Karen,

because she's like, I took it out of context because what I wanted to say was, I wouldn't say anything about you. I think no Karen, you were mad at her,

you wanted to shut up. And now you're acting like, no, you were giving her motherly. You tried the hell out of that of jail.

Yeah. I was trying to go to you. You're shade bombed on stage. You're shade bombed. You're trying to fix it.

Yeah, she was like, well,

“I didn't want you to do what you just did,”

because I wouldn't have answered anything on the stage today. You're talking too much, Wendy. I'm begging you. I'm begging you.

I'm pleading with you. Stop talking. Do not talk. I don't want you to go to jail and I'm begging you to stop interviewing.

I'm begging you because I don't believe it's helping you. Now take it from the Karen you used to like. How about that? Remember her? Go with us.

Amazing. Because when you talk the way they watch. Okay. And they hear you. And so I would have said,

respectfully, I mean, I can't answer those questions. And I worry about you. And I worry about you.

And I worry. I worry about you talking and posing. Posing for pictures. Oh, it's in the pictures. Okay. Well,

before I came out on stage here. No, no, let me finish. I want you to know. I wish you an any the absolute best porridge in the morning's in prison. I,

I, I would, I would see that. And why are coming here? My legal counsel wasn't formed.

That I would be here. Go. Go. Yeah. Thank you.

And they are very aware of the line of questioning. And what I divulge right now is already public record. So I'm just praying that everything you're saying is the truth. Because they can twist and they can turn it. And it won't be in your favor.

And you've got to think about the kids. That's all I'm saying. I wouldn't even be here. I wouldn't even be here. Well,

it was public record. And I know that you were out of the public eye in jail for a few months there. So, Karen, I, I was see what you're saying.

And I'm just saying it's public record. And even it was even in the police report. And so I know what you're saying. But like, you know, I know when to put the capacity on it.

Okay. I'm not an idiot. I know what I can say on TV. Thank you. And Karen's like,

I have listened to your lawyers. I just want you to listen to. You didn't take the plea deal. What are you talking about? Karen coming out like she's an expert on things is absolutely hilarious.

So when he's like, well, there's a civil lining in any situation. You know,

My mom and my sister were the first people there.

They've already sold half of my closet. And I'm not even gone yet. You know, on the way to Eddie's family's wallyed, you know,

we've come together in a way that we would not together before. So that's it's been great. Oh, well, that's fun. You know,

there's a few narratives that anyone who watched the show could latch onto, theoretically. I'm not saying that's what I'm saying. I'm just saying someone might think this. One of which is that you're taking care of your mom financially,

which is why you put yourself in a situation to commit a crime. So you've made me want to blame it on your mom. Or one of which is that you and Eddie were renovating your home. So you could blame it on the home.

Or maybe you were just dressing up so much from the show or putting an image together just to be fly on the show. Or maybe, I mean, there's so many ways as it could go.

It just seems like you guys really had a lot of motivations to commit a big crime. So how do you respond to that? I like when Andy is on the, the black house wide shows.

Like he's on the reading to me. Wow, were you doing it just to look fly? I can't be. Come on. These allegations are wax.

“Do you ever just wanted to law enforcement to step off the curb?”

You know what? If you get off of these allegations,

I'll be the first one to say,

you go girl. Well, it was your board. She's like, I don't respond. I can have them now with if that's on them.

Well, it was reported. You got 67 credit cards when the, wow, multiple aliases. I'm all over. Eddie Hanesse.

She's like, well, well, well, well, my legal counsel responded to that in quotes. So they collected that. Well, that just means that they said something in court. It doesn't mean it wasn't true.

And she's like, well, those aliases were only used for packages and deliveries. And there are no aliases, which were used for any financial institution. And that narrative was great.

Is she worried that like Amazon is going to be like, Oh my god, it's Wendy was home. Yeah, apparently. I mean, you know,

it's it is good to have some privacy if you're, if you're famous. Um, and you know, I mean, actually, I will say, you know,

she does a lot of talking head stuff on MSNBC. Very liberal.

So maybe there's like some fear of like a,

maybe someone who's like a, like a right wing crazy, you know, like I think it would be seven credit cards and multiple aliases. No, I'm just saying,

“that's why I can imagine why she might have an aliases for privacy.”

That's why. Like, you know, I think anyone who's talking in the news could like open themselves up for maybe something crazy from someone on the other end of their political spectrum. I'm just giving Wendy a little bit of benefit of the doubt on this one. Um,

but, yes, 67 credit cards still doesn't make sense though. Do I read Ali, yes, I can come up with 67 credit cards. I don't know.

Well, it was also reported that prosecutors claim you have very little money and are in the substantial debt. By the way, it says that about 97% of housewives. She's like, well,

I was back the legal system. And if that's the opinion, then that's the opinion. Oh, okay. All right.

Well, say it from with says, uh, how was all of this impacted your marriage? And she's like,

I'm absolutely, you know, you hit walk bottom. I'm with you girl. I've been there.

Yes. And, um, you know, it tests your marriage, but when you both hit walk bottom at the same time,

you're in the double state on legal seafood time. Then I ride girl. So, yeah, it's hard.

It's like two oyster crackers at the bottom of the charitable. I get it. Well, parents, by the way,

I haven't reminded anybody today. I'm a dad. I'm a dad. So I get it. You know, it's got to be really hard.

You're like,

“your first thought has to be who would look after your kids?”

Is John Mayer free? [laughs] I mean, I think it's got to be Ivy, right? Isn't that her sister?

Ivy? It's Ivy, right? Um, but it's like, I feel like it's like,

you know, Ivy's gonna be like, well, here I am again. I've got to be the one to take on all these children.

Thanks a lot, Wendy. Oh, so, Wendy's like,

the way that we don't get there. All right. Well, listen, I think,

all of us who care about you, we're worried because the case that presenting doesn't look good. Like,

what would you say to us or to me about that? Tell us about the case. Well, I would say, laughing at it.

Actually, never looks good and you still have her on the show. [laughs] Case dismissed.

[laughs] Let's just see how it plays out. You know, like, okay,

well, thanks Wendy. Of course, we're going to see how it plays out. We,

we've been to Quatt and some of what has been presented has been collected. And I'm not here to squeeze the media, as far as objecting to every headline. That's written about me.

So, we're just going to play it out in the legal system. Like, Well, you know,

it just stands out to me that you're such a great housewife. I mean, you've been an exemplary role model. You've lived with your,

You've led with your love, family, your culture, your faith. Check,

yeah. And I think that's why for me, and a lot of viewers were like, whoa, this is hilarious.

Wendy was a resident of rock. Would you like to cry now? I just want to remind everyone,

happy and nice and never looked better.

Your hair looks great. You're so smart. You're so wonderful. Are you crying yet? Please cry.

“I should tell everyone about how we hug the Bravo Khan.”

Come on. Let those tears roll. Let's have a moment. So she talks about how she loves Andy, and he hugged her at Bravo Khan,

and he hugged every pot of me. It's like you didn't want to let go. So thank you, Andy. Yeah. Okay.

So they have a great hug. Um, you hug Andy's heart of me. Every pot. So Karen, what do you think? Uh, what's your advice?

And she's like, well, first of all, we are phenomenal black women, who are not alcoholics. She's like,

Amen, sister. Am I present with you and your family? That diversity,

are always faced in life,

and I know you'll rise. Hey, that's my line. Man, I pray you'll never know

what it's like to have your liberties taken away from you. As they were me, there is another side. It won't break you.

And if you get real with yourself, you'll be a better version of yourself. Thank you. Absolutely. This has been Karen.

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On Shopify.de/recorder. Any final words for the reunion? No, probably for the next few years. Oh, well, I'm not on the other side of the app.

But when you're in that valley,

“you see a side of yourself that you've never seen before.”

And it builds humility and it builds strength. And even though I'm not out of the storm, I'm already a better woman for being in the storm. And I'm full. I have a great full for that.

I love being in storms. All right. Okay. Well, uh, Karen, I'm going to be in the storm. I've learned all we have a wing coat.

Customs. That's the ones. It's a very nice little thing that said nothing. Just really good about speaking a lot and saying nothing,

which is, uh, a little bit different Karen. Yeah. Politicians speak. She's been in politics for a long time.

So, um, and he's like, Oh, thank you. You're in a morning. I mentioned. Sorry.

What? Well, man, I'm just going to say it's been 10 years. Yeah. It's been a milestone. You guys have been instrumental in the success of this series.

And I want to acknowledge that before we let you go to prison. So thank you both. And it's great to see both of you, especially in the place that you're in at your life. What a beautiful thing.

Thank you. Monique's like, I'm not going to prison. Well, you know, time's to take him. [laughter]

What the heck? There are things to be going around. Okay. So then people get their break in Karen and Giselle Hugg. And Eddie comes up and kisses Wendy on the end.

He's like, Hey, buddy. And, um, you know, everyone gets up to hug Karen. Except for Wendy when he stays seated. Yeah. And I love this moment when they come back from break.

And Karen is the train on her dress as I take him all the space. And Angel goes, um, Karen, my feet need some room from your dress. And Karen, like, looks up like one little flap and like moves it over like an inch. And then just like puts it back down like does not like do anything for Angel. Angel, Angel's like, okay.

Angel should just kick that shit over us. So just step on it. Step on it. So there's like, where's Giselle's package is? And she goes, yeah, where's me?

Yeah. What do they? What do you want them to put in Giselle? You didn't do anything all season except fuck with other people.

“What do you want them where you're just dancing around your house by yourself?”

And laying on your bed and saying, wow, my children are gone now. I think that the fact that they kept that commentary in because I don't know if, necessarily we would have noticed it. Some people may have noticed it. Just know how to moment by the way.

She did it. Definitely had a moment on the show of like an episode or two ago where they talked about the will, her dad, her daughters, everything like that. Um, but it was funny that they didn't have a clip package for her. And the fact that they kept that in there, I feel like was a sign that they were a message

they were giving to Giselle to say, you need to, like, you, you're, yes, you are a legend on the show and you're very funny and you're shady and you stir the pot.

We're calling you out now in front of the audience.

So she's like, hey, yeah. So where's my bucket job? Yeah. Like who's something Giselle? Especially when she says, you know, at the end they're, she's talking, oh, yeah.

No, we'll get to it. But um, yeah. So now it's like, what did you learn this season?

“Okay, let's start with the newbie's angel. She's like, well, I've learned that being Zen and calm doesn't mean that you need to skip over things that bother you.”

And you know, I just can't wait for this group of ladies to really get to know me because I really feel like when they get to know me, they're really going to like me. I know. All right. Yeah, I think I take away. I could be quite naive in some situations and say things are not really think about the damage it could cause for somebody else. And then those people out there, I mentioned namely my children, I just laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.

I've also learned that I've also learned that sometimes it's good to just get knock on a door and say I used to live in this home, because people will generally take you even sometimes give you a cookie. Hmm. Well, this particular day reminds me that we do more things in common than not. I just want to remind myself to put someone out and put myself in someone else's shoes. The shoes of someone who really loves picture frames and loves gazing at it a high weight from her balcony.

Oh, actually, she's. Okay, but then I've made my own shoes.

Actually, well, I'll piggyback. I've always liked this group. It's a sisterhood. You know, you guys have really been there for me.

“And I think that maybe I've started to not be as sisterly.”

So maybe I'll lean more into my sisterly side with this group right. Okay. Okay. Well, since I just realized you all didn't give me a package, I'll just give you a little synopsis about what's going on in my life. But my children are great. One of them is a manager at Arizona's now and one became a member of my sorority. Yeah. So the legacy continues. Alpha Alpha Capacapa Capacapa Incorporated Alpha Delta Delta Delta.

So get into it. Now I've been dating my heart. Yes. Sorry. I went somewhere right away. I thought you reached a period. I apologize. No, it works. I've been dating a lot, but moving forward. I'm looking forward to more qualities. So I'm looking forward to quality in 2026. I'm looking into new business endeavors, which I will share with the world as they come.

And yes, thank you for not giving me a package. I really appreciate that. I feel like a customer on the estimated arrival day for FedEx ground. No package. No package here. Those girls got cookies are not coming running. Okay. Just also if you've been dating a lot, then put it on the show and you might have a package. But dating and just not telling anybody anything and just coming on and just trying to ruin everybody else for for sport is not enough. Give something.

Although, just always accused for years and years of hiring men to be her boyfriend on this show. And I think she's just like fine.

I won't hire anybody else then. Save myself so many. I actually have a controversial, very controversial. This will be a real issue in the midterm elections. A controversial take, which is that I actually don't always need my housewives to have like a fully fleshed out storyline. If they are contributing to the overall storyline of the group. And I know that like with a friend of their role as to contribute, but we don't care about the personalized.

You know, this actually, you know, Rina's been in the news a lot lately. And so I think of Rina. I think of like when Rina was on Beverly Hills initially. And people complained that all Rina did was stir shit up with other people, but like her personal life was like not that interesting and who cares. Like where's your personal story? I really am of the mindset like, I like the, I'm most interested in the group dynamics of these shows and if someone is helping move that forward and is playing essential role with that.

But we don't see that much of their life. I'm actually really okay with it to be honest. You know, I vary. It depends on who we're talking about. I don't need to see Jiselle's life. Like I'm not someone like who's really requesting more scenes about Jiselle. But you know, I think it's a fact that Jiselle, purposely comes on and just fucks with people for no, like she doesn't even have anything real. Like I don't even believe half the shit she comes on with you to you. The stuff she comes on with to use against other people is even real half the time. Like the stacy stuff like she's trying way too hard to catch stacy in some crazy TJ paid you to do something. You know, it's always some nonsense.

And I think that she's trying really hard to turn the focus on everybody else.

“And instead of having this true thing going on in her own life. And so I think that's why it bothers me with Jiselle. And then to complain like that you don't have a package is just silly. You don't do anything to get a package.”

You know, I do, I do think Jiselle's very guarded. I think I guess for me the reason why Jiselle gets away with it is I find her to be very funny. And like if she's funny.

Yeah, like with Erica J and I often them like, I'm like, you don't give us anything which this past episode on Beverly Hills was actually extremely emotionally raw about what's going on in her life.

But in terms of like, we never really see who her real friends are, yada yada yada. I've complained for years.

And it's funny because I'm sitting here saying like, oh, I don't necessarily need to see your life.

“But I think that like if you offer something like you stir the pot or your funny or you stir the pot actually think if you have to stir the pot and be funny,”

which I felt like Rina was, I feel like Jiselle is I'm more forgiving. I do agree. Jiselle does not give herself over very much. Um, and it is funny. And then she's like shocked that she doesn't get a package where someone like Erica Jane is like part of this camp of like you need to be open and honest, be honest, and that doesn't show any of her life. That's where I get more frustrated. But you know what I would say.

We're talking about how it varies for a different people, right? Because like Erica's stuff with Tom was crazy. Like seeing her life with Tom and all the glam and all the, you know, when she would tour around to the concerts or whatever, those were so weird in the gay bars that Tom would pay to feature her or whatever. Those were weird. And then there was time, you know, then she went through all of the, um, scandal stuff.

So they showed that her crying a lot. So she has had a lot of personal story years. I think that Erica, you know, is actually best is she is now, which is not really having that much of a storyline and just commenting on everybody else. I think she's found kind of her new groove in that way. Where she's just there being my glids off that can steal it. You know, she doesn't really cause new grooves.

Yeah, the Erica got her groove back in a way. I think this is like a good groove for her actually. So I think some people it works for him. Some people it doesn't, you know, yeah. But either way, it was random.

“No matter how I feel about Josel, it was hilarious that she didn't get a package.”

And then she was really upset about it. And then when she tries to sort of wedge into her package, it shows what she didn't get a package because it's like, okay, so her daughter joined Alpha, you know, AKA, which is great. I have some great friends.

That's not your story, though, you know. I know, it's like exactly. It's like, okay, her children are great. Great. Great.

That's what she was saying. Okay, like what else? I mean, did you, did you see any movies recently? Yeah. Okay, give us something, okay.

Rina has the best PR people of all time, by the way. She is in, she's literally like five stories a day are popping up about her, because she was really, really, I mean, she is really working that. It's crazy. And her book came out, so she's doing publicity for that, too.

And that book, I don't know if you guys have read at the pieces of it. It is taking zero responsibility. I mean, it is so delusional. I mean, the font really speaks to her mind. It's just like crazy font.

It's like Looney Tunes font, you know, it's Cucco. And she takes no responsibility and is still completely delusional about how everything went down there. If she blames a fans for everything, she's like, I don't have any problem with the housewives. My problem was with the fans. They're what ruined it for me.

And they're trying to make me have to be some villain.

And I was never a villain.

It was all the fans who did it. And that nasty toxic fandom, which we can be as a fandom, I'll say. You can't do that. That's right. But all the time.

Come on. You did that to yourself, girl. Now. Yeah, she did. You know what it was?

“I think we all responded to Rina sort of losing an authenticity about herself on the show.”

Like, we know there's like a Rina that we know and love. We saw it. It was back full force on the traders. I was like, we love that Rina. It was the Rina that we have for many years.

But we saw Rina who then got caught up in length of Kyle and Doreet and Erica thing. She just tried to choose. Honestly, I really feel like Rina started to just try to be cool and try to be in with them. And her just survived just change. And she just don't blame us once she.

Yeah, she got with Erica. They teamed up and they just started trying to do the take people down. And by doing the bugs and the, you know, finding everybody's gossip and coming out with it. You know, that's when it started going downhill. Don't blame us.

Jeez. We respond to things. We understand things.

And ultimately, I think the Bravo fandom loves our Bravo Lebanese.

And when I think when we, we get angry when we feel like on some level. You have betrayed the pact that we have with you, which is that you're going to be you. And we're going to be entertained by you. And the moment you're producing and the moment you're sort of like doing stuff that's like really not authentic to the show or to yourself. You're kind of breaking the pact that we have.

And we got upset. And we picked and we sniff it out where we're sophisticated viewers of reality TV are sophisticated. And it gets the genre gets accused of being like low with the lowest comments a nominator. It's not. And we are sophisticated viewers.

And we understand things and we understand what we watch. And we know and we're and you can't members less so. Well said. Well said. All right.

So easy. I love to develop. Jiselle's package became about Lisa Riddle. That just shows.

But I love Stacy's like, well, I want to continue to be me and not change. And I want to say exactly the way that I am. And also, I want to be more direct so that there aren't any misunderstandings within this group. And that's something I'd like to work on moving forward.

But ultimately, I'd like to stay amazing.

All right, Wendy.

“Well, I think there's new chapter of my life.”

I want to leave a kindness because whether we say it or not, we're all going through something. And the women were actually very kind to me. Oh, you thought there'd be tough on you. Yeah, I thought there'd be tougher. And, you know, people reached out.

Monika's actually been a real champion for me and my children. The best he says everyone's been nice and she goes, and that includes you old bunion feet Ashley. Oh, yeah. Well, I do love you too. And I hope, you know, I want the best for you Wendy. You know, I was petty, and I can acknowledge that.

But that's not where my heart is. This is where my heart is. Strow me my pain with your finger. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think what it should be locked up. Hey, wow. That noise pollution.

We don't do anything about it. That this country. To celebrate 10 years. Well, should we really be making fun of Wendy's prison term? No, caring for backstage. We're going to celebrate 10 years of a ton, makes champagne, everyone.

Oh, my gosh. It's really coming. So they bring them all like a tiny bit of champagne. Come on. We'll talk about it today. We all share in one bottle. And then he goes, thank you for 10 brilliant seasons. Let's take a selfie, which I will heavily filter angel remember.

Can't fish. Can't fish. You know, what angel's like Wendy's stopped saying that. I'd like Louanne to come bring out a snack for angel. It is a catfish suckeringly end of her hand. She's in the crappy lake.

So that was another season of Potomac. You know, it was a good season. It was definitely. I don't think it was the best, but it was very good. And it was a lot better than the past couple years have been. So congrats on finding your footing.

Because God, I was right there for a while. I was really glad to have this show back. I feel like it's 100% back in its, you know, like that's pre. For like a better word of pre necha season. I don't like Blimey. It's not necha's fault.

I'm just like, that's the way I can, that was the year. Yeah, that was the year when things suddenly went terribly wrong. So I feel like the show is really, it's, it's, I love it.

“The last amazing season I think was because there were, there were like five”

right in a row that were just, yeah, amazing.

Well, too through whatever it was when, well, it's our last amazing season. I came on and it was the, oh, really? Hot box in your Georgetown University. That was the last excellent one, right? Yeah.

I can't remember which is, which is my favorite one. Because they were like, they're, I agree. For me, I think that was the last, like, excellent one. And then it fell into crazy, like it fell off so bad. I felt so bad for the show.

And then the Michael is making back this year for sure. Yeah. There was the Michael Darby, you know, hands, like handsy season. There was Wendy's first season, which was really good. But like, it's hard to, I would have to like sit back and look to sit best.

I don't know the bad. I'm just saying, this is the best since that one. That was the last best one. I have to make some of these.

“I think, but excuse me, I have on this show.”

Did she do two or three? I think she had four maybe three or four? No, okay. Then me, I think that a couple of the seasons. I could be how we're really good.

I could be wrong. Yeah, I think the first like two seasons with me are good. But I don't know. Like, I do think that Mia was not ultimately a good thing for the show. Because I thought she was really entertaining and really great at first.

But I think ultimately the show has been as she's gone and the show suddenly got so much better. So do it as you wish. But that being said, love it. Yeah, love it, great season, great season. Thank you to everybody who is with us this season.

Hopefully we'll see you on another soon. We'll miss you. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We'll talk to you next time.

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