#3277: Summer House S10E8 Part One: Old Man (Cry Me a) River

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Off-Shopee-Fi.de/record. [MUSIC PLAYING] Yeah, hey, welcome to Watch What Crapins. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben. Hello, Ben!

Hi, Ronnie. How are you? My little darling, Munchkin. Welcome, everybody, to the show. It is Summer House day today.

Kyle, Kyle, old man, Kyle, making an asset of himself. So welcome to that. If you want this on video, or if you want our bonus episodes,

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and that fabulous community, or you want ad-free listening, or you want a free newsletter every week, go over to patreon.com/watchwatchcrapins. That's where you find all that good stuff. Also, I did a couple of guest appearances this week.

I was on the Gabbing with Gibb podcast. That man's adorable. I was my first time over there.

Ben's already been on it, but I had never been.

He's a lovely man. That was good. We had a talk about the state of the union on Bravo. And then I talked to Kate Casey about some personal stuff and some Bravo stuff.

You know, I love talking to Kate. She's a good friend, and we've known each other for years. So a lot of it's just catching up. Like, we don't even know when we press record.

“It's like, well, here's what I think about Canasta”

and Real Housewives. So that's the Kate Casey podcast reality life with Kate Casey. Those are both out this week's ago. Give him a listen. Okay. Well, okay. Sounds like a great time.

Sounds like a great thing to do. So today is the big summer house episode that Andy hyped up as the worst Kyle Cook episode of all time. And what's so funny is that when I watched it, I was like, oh, Kyle's being terrible.

And then in my mind, I thought, is this the worst? Haven't we seen worse? Is it the worst? Then I thought, that's really bad. That's really bad that you watched this and think like,

"No, but I'm pretty sure there was an episode." It's like, oh, you realize like, there between this and winter house, there were so many bad episodes for Kyle. So many. And you know, you're right because Andy was like, "Well, the worst of all time, Kyle, where's a, you know,

I don't know, bomb vests, like it was like really bad." And it is just more of Kyle. It was just that, wow. I mean, you call your wife a fucking bitch and then don't stop. And then just keep, I mean, this Kyle, it's a Kyle episode, guys.

But yeah, I do think it is worse because he just wouldn't let up. And then you see kind of a man of just crying and him still not letting up or taking any responsibility and it girl just leave that man. Leave that man, leave him, there's another post on Reddit today of like Kyle hanging out with, you know, 22-year-old hot girls

in the middle of the night, shitface. So shitface, he can't even talk. Like the man is a mess. It's time to step away, you know? Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's, I was really happy that Sierra was like,

basically saying they need to separate. It's time, I'm glad that they are now at a place where they're verbalizing it. I'm glad that it's actually what happens in real life too, because it's just not, it's just not healthy.

Kyle should never be talking to his wife that way.

“I think they're both like, I'm not trying to be like both sides.”

Both sides, I think they are both in a toxic loop. I think it's very obvious. I think she does give jabs. I think that he is in attentive. I think then therefore she's in attentive in response,

because she's like, what the fuck? And it is pretty rich when you see him complaining about how Amanda doesn't pay attention to him when he's then out on the road as a DJ. So they're just contributing to this like awful situations, very chicken and egg. But I think that like, Kyle, I think Kyle has been like,

pretty, like, I'm trying to think of the right word. Is there where terrible? We're just fucking horrible. Is there been fucking horrible, terrible fucking horror, yeah, live them? I mean, like what's the word that truly captures it?

I think just, I think that he is being very, very needy all of a sudden.

for Amanda on the show.

So, yeah, that's just a bad couple.

But Linda here her crying and saying, like, well, you know, I just don't know that I can do any better. And that's just so heartbreaking to hear that. And we've all felt that. I mean, I felt that God knows, you know.

And that's not a good thing to feel. But no, you don't have to kind of get yourself unstuck from that, 'cause nobody can do that for you, you know. Even if you can't do better, you can't do worse. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's kind of how I turned it around in my own head. Like, maybe I can't do better, but I certainly can't do worse. See, Alusher. Yeah, and Amanda just Amanda needs some time.

“I think to be single, 'cause I know I just don't think she really had that.”

I think 24 is really early. I mean, obviously she got to be single for a few years. But like, 24 is early. You know, she went through her entire 20s with Kyle. And in your 20s, you still believe in things like being able to fix people.

And so she needs to like go back into the dating world knowing that she can't fix people and knowing that, you know, whoever she's with, she's got to meet them where they're at. And they have to meet her where she's at. And that's where you're hopefully going to find your connection and not hoping that you will come together because there's a lot of good things on paper.

And then aspire to get to that place where you have that connection. So yeah, I mean, I believe that she loves him. And I believe that he loves her. But like, it's requires more than just that.

And there's just a, as you've said a million times, as I've said,

compatibility is the main issue. There's just not a compatible couple. Me, um, so we open up at Kisaki, the restaurant. And that's where they were at last week. But now we're, we're not going to have a discussion there.

We already had it last week. So now we're going to go party. Let's go. Thank you. Kisaki.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So they go dance and, uh, torque at a bar. People are still working, huh?

Thomas, yeah, the, the, the, the big dance move that we see on this episode is falling

over onto the floor. We see like KJ falls onto the floor. I then later then they go back home and dance a more and then they all keep to falling

“on the floor and it's like, I guess that's, is that the thing?”

Is that what the kids are doing? Just throwing themselves onto the floor. You twerk in the knee fall down. Because you're, yeah, but bone hurts. You're a gal, I taught old people tracking back now.

So, um, Lindsey comes home and goes to bed. But then the rest of the cast comes back. And of course, Kyle runs straight to the DJ booth in the living room because he wants to be the center of attention and DJ and nobody cares. Okay. I do not want to hear you DJing.

I don't care. Press go, go, put your, your fucking air pods in. Everyone is not your prisoner to sit there and listen to your shitty DJ set all night. Okay. It's, so, you know, it's like someone who is, it's like me. If I had you over and was like, hey, I'm going to sing at the piano all night. Nobody wants that. Do that shit on your own.

Know you wouldn't. It's annoying as hell and people like that need to stop it. They need to be stopped. Okay. Yeah. This is very much like birthday boy has his toys. And so, they're done. And then by the way, they go and they dance. They have fun. They're fooling around and stuff. But like it's also the end of the night.

People that everyone's drunk, they want to do their own thing. They want to loaf about. It's the summer. They want to go to the pool. And so, you know, people are dancing, having fun. But eventually it's okay. So let's, I'm looking at the timestamps here when they get home. They, so they get home at around 12, 38am. But by 1 o 2 a.m. Kyle is now alone.

Everyone went outside. So they dance for 20 minutes.

“I think that's like way more than you can expect.”

Considering that they were already out. They already danced. They already got drunk. People are now in their daily month. They're in their day. Okay. They just want to go to the pool. They got some pool noodles. They're going to stick some flaps. Okay. I'm sorry. But like, you know, bro, like, you're not going to,

people don't want to sit here and listen to your remixes until two in the morning. In this like, there's mildly lit, lit room area. It's like not a cardboard cutouts everywhere that are freaking me out. Like that jokes over to get rid of them. So this is where it all begins because he is alone in the DJ booth and it's sad.

There's like those party city streamers everywhere. And he's just like all bummed that nobody's listening to him DJ and everybody else is at the pool. Okay. Stop holding everybody hostage. Okay. And go out to the pool and hang out with everybody. It's one of those things like, you're not doing what I want you to do. So everybody's ignoring me.

No. You're ignoring everybody else by being a sad sack and staying inside at your stupid guy in your machine. You dumb ass. So they're having fun outside. And a man is like, what am I just jumped in the pool? And then like, do it. Do it. So they're like having, like, let's push each other in. So they're doing that stuff. And a meanwhile, Kyle still on the DJ room alone.

And he just turns the music off and he's all upset.

And we just all alone in this world.

“Yeah. I mean, look, have I ever had a drunk pity party for myself?”

Hell, yes. Have I had a server one? Yes. So I like get it. I've definitely been in like some times things hit you to where you're like, it's my birthday and no one's like, people should want to be like inviting me out to the pool. Like, I get that. But also just like go out to the pool and be with everyone. You know, like, like, and also have people, by the way, by the way, take the note, which is maybe the music you're playing is not good enough. And everyone left a room.

Okay. Take the note and see how you can improve for next time. If you're on a group of people, and you're in a party house, and everybody else is

partying in a different room, but you're partying in a room all by yourself. To blame everybody else

is crazy. That's legitimately crazy. Okay. And if you feel like that, not you personally, but anybody in the audience is in a situation like that. You're the wrong one for being in that room, going to the other room. If they ignore you in the other room, then you can cry to me. But you can't cry when you're the one in the different room. So he's crying. He's being a baby. And he's like, "It's my girl up in a ball. It's my girl in a bun die." And that's a laughing. He's laughing.

He's having a blast with Jesse and West and Ben. I'm just like literally all by myself because they ditched me. And like, I don't know how I'll still explain it. It's like, I feel isolated and alone by my wife. Well, she probably feels isolated and alone because you can't get away from your fucking pioneer

machine. Drop the machine, bro. It's one in the morning. Nobody wants to hear it.

Yeah. And again, you're the one who's going out on the road and DJing and then staying. Out with the fans until late in the late at night while a man doesn't home. And then you're going to complain that you feel left alone. They brought you home from the club. Last time I checked, they took the major where you got back to the house. And then you make it even worse. They're

“outside having fun. So now you don't get attention inside. And so now you have to take a”

Bluetooth speaker outside to blast your music at everybody. You are not. I don't, it makes me crazy when people play other people's music and act like they made this music. It makes it nuts. Like everybody won't hear my music. It's not your music. Okay. It's Robin. Enough does it. Stop taking credit for Robin. You did not make this. Yeah. Yeah. Like just cut your losses. People are just not in the mood to dance. Don't take it

personally. And just join them and have fun. You know. So then, so he's dancing by himself and Amanda's like, "Guys, we should go to bed because we have a big day tomorrow." And Sierra's like, "Yeah, that's fine." And some calls like, "Ahh, but hey, Amanda." She's like, "What? Where does the board mean? This part?" Kyle, you're not doing a gig. You were not like performing at the Bluetooth. It's a Bluetooth speaker. It's a Bluetooth speaker. Stop it. She's like, "Why?

But I'm so important, everything is not." We did Kyle just say Amanda, least supportive wife in the world. He's like, "I'm fucking believable. Fuck you, Amanda. Fuck you."

“So he says, "Fuck you." And everyone's like, "Oh my God." Because it's like you should, well,”

you should really shouldn't sit anyone, but definitely not your wife. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crappy commercial. So, Kyle, he takes his Bluetooth speaker and goes inside. Like, you know, a grandma with a ball on her porch. She's like, "I keep this now. It's like, sure you're a Terry." So, it was like, Kyle, Kyle, and he goes inside. Again, like, I think I feel like he didn't get support when he's playing pressing play on like CDs in the living room.

This is not a gig. This is not like a support moment. This is your providing music for the after-party, the after-party die-down. And now we're in the next phase of the night. That's just how it goes when people are drunk. And to act like she was graduating from Yale or something, and she refused to come and see him walk the stage. It's just absolutely ridiculous. "Oh, I'm okay, everybody. We're just gonna go to bed. We're just gonna act like nothing happened.

And we're gonna all celebrate Kyle's birthday tomorrow." And she was like, "Yeah, you can't just say fuck you to your wife." And Wes is like, "Yeah, I'm gonna talk to him." And Matt is like, "No, please don't." And she's like, "You know what, I don't want this to be a thing." You know, I just, and his birthday party tomorrow will just have fun and enjoy ourselves. Like, it is what it is. We don't have to talk about it. She's like, "What's the point? Literally, what's the point of talking about this? It's only

gonna make things worse." And he's not gonna take accountability. He's not gonna apologize for what he did. I don't know that it's wrong. And the way he speaks to me, I know it's wrong. I'm fully aware. I'm not okay with it. I just know that having a conversation about it isn't gonna go anywhere. Which is like sad that she's just like resigned to be like, "I would rather just ignore it and just move forward than have to deal with another, like empty discussion that will

not move the need a lot of relationship." Well, you're talking to a drunk. You're talking to a person

When their kid is having a fit and they're just sitting there not doing anything. And in our minds,

“it's like, "How can you not do anything?" Your kid is sitting there throwing a fit, throwing food,”

calling you a bitch probably, whatever that two-year-old is up to. And you just see that look in their eyes and it's the same look a man to has. It's like, "They're too. What can I possibly do?" Like, "They're too. They're wasted. They're calling me a bitch." That's just what they do at this age. Yeah, I'll just, I mean, a man that has that look in her eyes. Like, he's too. Like, what do you guys, do you really think I'm gonna have a conversation with that? I've been dealing with this his whole

life. Maybe he'll get better when he starts preschool. Yes, seriously. So Ben goes up to college and he's like, "Hey, coil?" You walk past and said, "Fuck you out of no way." He goes, "Well, that's how

I felt. I mean, I don't know if you big up on it. Like, how much did you see Amanda talking to me

today?" Like, she said, "Five words to me all night long." And he's like, "But what did you say to her?" And he said, "Fuck you out of here, that's me trying to make an effort." I said, "Fuck you out." It's like she's talking to me. Well, but she was hanging out with all of us all night. She's like, "No, no, not me though." Yeah, but where were you? Where were you? Well, she was in my arms and I was looking into her eyes and

enjoying the way that moonlight just reflected off of her lips. Where were you during that call? And Kyle Counts say, "How was it that DJ's down below anyone who lives in me?"

“Because that's what he really means. Because I think that's what this whole thing is about.”

So instead he's like, "I do to get shit down. I do to get shit down." No, you literally do not get it shut down. So the last goes into Amanda's room and she's like going through it and she's trying to sort of keep it together, but he asks if she's okay and he's like, "God, objectively, nothing happened for that reaction. It's just so bizarre to me." And she's like, "Yeah, thanks." And then she just starts to cry and he's like, "I mean,

that's like the first time I've ever seen something where like a hundred percent unprovoked."

He was just like so rude. Like, and the other times he's been like rude, but like, I guess, semi-provoked or like, just mindlessly-provoked, why didn't say anything, but this time, a hundred percent. So I'll actually say something. Well, that's like a calm version of Kyle, like, "That's tame, you know." And he's like, "Cheese." Because I know I'm not perfect, like, but I've literally been dealing with this for like 10 years. I mean, it's not crazy.

And, you know, there's part of me that thinks like, "Is this the best time I've ever going to do?" And I mean, I love, he does love me so much. And I don't know. I know it's constantly

“making excuses for Kyle." And she's crying. And by the way, we don't really see any of this, right?”

Isn't this all kind of an assault room? Yeah, there's a lot of like sort of security camp footage here, or just like stationary cameras. Yeah, the four-year-old doing a lot of heavy lifting this episode. Big times, big time, big time. So Kyle walks into the bedroom. By the way, Salt Lake City could learn a tip or two about how just installing some go-pros, and letting them roll all night, because they would have missed this. So Kyle walks in,

and he's just, he walks into the bedroom and he just likes like, "Uh, Amanda." And then he walks out of the room. West walks out, so he goes up to Kyle and he's like, "Hey, um, go say you're sorry." And like, because like nothing happened outside, you just like walked by and he said, "Fuck you for no reason." He's like, "Well, she gave me the fuck you lies," which is like 10 U.S. at best. Like, what are you talking about? Like, that's like the worst excuse to ever pop off on your wife. I mean,

you shouldn't have had those no excuse to ever pop off on your wife. But that's just bad. Now you're just projecting some shit onto her. No, she didn't. Kyle. He's like, "All right, all right, all right, all right, that's all right. Sorry, I'll see you on a sorry." So he goes to the bathroom where Amanda is. I'm like, "Hey, I'm just watching up for a man." He's like, "Oh, yeah, I'm sorry for saying fuck you. I just don't feel like you pay attention to me." No, that's not sorry, Kyle. When you fucking, but it's your fault.

He's like, "But I just don't feel like you pay attention to me." And she's just like, "Okay, I mean, I just don't feel like you know, I mean, making the effort with me." She's like, "What would you define as making an effort?" And P.S. don't forget, we are throwing you a party tomorrow that I'm organizing. But what would you define as making an effort? Is it conversing, talking? So then West goes up to Ben's room and he's like, "Oh, she just cried for it to

me for like 20 minutes." And that's like, "Fuck, that's like not good." And he's like, "Well, I don't know. I don't, I just don't understand where it came from." Wow, even late at night, I get applause just for being a model. Well, with friends, like I've definitely been like conflict of weight at, but like, you know, I've got no choice in this situation to be part of the Kyle and Amanda Mix, because we live together, you know, like, care about them and like if Kyle's being a dickhead,

like, I don't know who has Amanda's back. I don't believe. So then Amanda and Kyle are still talking.

everyone?" And he's like, "Yeah, but like instead of me, like you're hanging out with all my friends,

like, what about me just hanging out with me?" Kyle, you did not want to hang out. You wanted people to listen to you DJs. Stop pretending this is about Amanda. You're upset because no one liked your performance. Yeah, just so you want me to hang out with you while you're hanging out

“with all the random people. That's what you want. It's like, "No, I'm only hanging out with strangers”

because you literally ignore me." Like, "No, no, no, that's just what you just said that." I don't know. I'm just like, "You know what it is, that's all." Okay, Kyle, let me know how it is. So then we go back upstairs and Western bed are still talking and West is like, "I'm going to go check it back out. Wish me luck." And then in the bathroom he goes, "You're a fucking dumbass bitch." And she goes, "Oh yeah, I'm a dumbass bitch, Kyle, great." And West and Pinter in the hallway,

and so she passes them and they hear that obviously. And she's like, "Yeah, I'm just a dumbass bitch. I guess I'll go make some soda water. I'm fine, guys, whatever." And he's in there alone now, and the bathroom alone just going, "You ignored me, only along with that friend. Do you have a friend over me?" Shit, I prefer the friends over you. You're an ass! Yeah, and again, your argument falls apart because you go out across the country, DJing,

and you have a man that you're saying, "I support you DJing, but then you don't even come home. You go out to like, foreign the morning." And even before the DJing even happened, the ongoing thing is that you go get drunk until foreign the morning. And now he's going to complain that she prefers being with other people over him when he's been doing that to her for years. So Ben goes into, "I guess work the soda stream with Amanda or something. Is it a soda stream

they're working?" Well, they said it's going to make soda, but it didn't look like a soda stream. There's some contraption, there's some weird late night, you know, carbonated experience that we're having. So Ben's like, "Well, I've known him for a year,

we've hung out at brunch. I've never seen anything. I mean, this side of him caught. I've never seen that.

“I know he's stressed with love a boy. And I think sometimes Amanda just likes to push his”

buttons, and that keeps building to a tipping point, and then there's a, excuse you. Excuse you, sir." You know, and then we see a montage of Amanda, like pushing his button to make sure up Kyle, you know. And as Amanda said, she's never perfect blah, blah, blah. She didn't do any of that today. And even if she did, nothing excuses this. That makes me create up. Ben said this. I don't like that. He said this. Like she just... I didn't even tell her. He explodes. Look, what the fuck?

But he does like that with, you know, nothing I've seen warrants a blow up like that. Yeah. And again, I mean, they get, they have a toxic wave communicating. Like he, I feel like his ignores her or he gets drunk, and he is really obnoxious. And then her way of responding is that she takes these little digs at him, you know, and that does happen. But that's almost immaterial in this situation, because this was unprovoked, completely unprovoked. And I'm just

awful. It's just a terrible thing to say to, you know, your life partner. So Ben's like, "Don't worry,

“wist. I'm going to go here to talk with him." And I also listen, Kyle. I understand things are”

difficult with you and Amanda. And if you'd like, I'll take him off your hands, and then maybe the two of us can just spend the rest of the summer, skinny dipping in the pull-up back. What do you say, bro? So I was just talking to Kyle. And Kyle's like, "She's been more time with you than me in the last six months. Kyle, you haven't been home for six months." Yeah. Yeah. What is he even, what is he even talking about? And then the kitchen Amanda's just going to go to bed. And then

West is still trying to talk to Kyle, which is pointless. You know, you can't talk to Kyle when he's like this. Just wait till the next day when he's sober. Because this is stupid. You can't talk to a

drunk person. And West is like, "Yeah, but tonight we're at the bar and he's like, "Oh, yeah, there's always

a fucking fuck you, Kyle." So I said it and goes, "No, you said fuck you to her." And she's like, "No, I said fuck you back." No, but she didn't say fuck you to you. It's always a fuck you, Kyle. No, this is in your head, Kyle. She said it with her eyes. He hates me. And he hates me. She doesn't talk to me. I'll sleep in another bed. I don't give a fuck. If you all don't fucking see the fact that she fucking hates me, then I'm sorry. Then I'm like, "I don't know. I'm blind. I'm sorry."

West is like, "Well, don't apologize to me. I'm just telling you that that shit's not going to help." He's like, "Oh, I just, I give up." You know, as you've located me. And by the way, during all this time Amanda, like they're talking in the bathroom and Amanda's back in her bed. So she can hear all of this shit. Yeah. And if Amanda does hate you, I hate you at this point. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, I don't blame her for hating you. Jesus, if this is just what you show on TV,

what do you like when the cameras aren't there? You know? Absolutely. So West leaves the bathroom and he goes in to say, "I love you to Amanda." And she's like, "I'm sorry." And we still hear Kyle in the bathroom. He's like, "Hey, hey, it's me." He's like, "Hey, it's me." He's like, making out with his JBL speaker. Like, "Well, at least have you. Play Robin again."

morning. Everyone's waking up. And it's like last night, never even happened. Lindsay FaceTime's

Gemma. And then Kyle is on his phone and bad while Amanda sleeps. And then Kyle tells us, "There's nooks used to drop the earth bomb and say a few to your wife, but I'm only human. I'll make one. I'll make one." That's my get to make it. Here's the excuse. There's nooks' excuse, but why don't I give it a call? It's dry. I can only go so long and get in the cold journal. You know, getting them small, but steady jabs. I used to think it was all my

head until I've watched some of these summers back. And then we have a flashback to, you know, a nice healthy montage of Amanda shooting on Kyle for sure. So he's like, "Yeah, man, it's hard. It's hard for me, man." Yeah, he's like, "Yeah, but now I pick up on these jabs in real time. It doesn't even matter for having a good night. It's so good jab. It's just been piling up and piling up. Who does this sound like?" Exactly like Craig from Southern. Exactly. It's the same things.

But they keep poking me. They just keep poking me, poking the bear and it piles up and it piles up and then I explode. It's not my fault. It's everybody else all the time. And the fact that you could watch summer house seasons back and come away with everything as Amanda's fault is crazy. Like, yeah, that's the thing. That shows zero self-awareness. Yeah, absolutely. And so, cause like, I mean, it's one thing if you're in a funk, but if you're having a blast that everybody

bought me is just sad. So then, uh, Jesse thinks her nicer and Jesse and Westroom, Jesse's like, "Love you all." It's like, "I love you too." That was it. And then we go to the kitchen and KJ is texting Darra because she's coming in today for the party and he's like, "Hey, can't wait to see you. The vibes are excitement. Are you on your way?" And Darra's like, "Yeah, see you soon." I'm Darra. And then, um, I'm going to bully you. But in a fun way.

So then we go to Jesse and Kallon Amanda's room and, um, they're going to go workout. The boys are going to go workout. And, um, Jesse's like, "Good morning pineapple." And she laughs and Kallon goes, "Wait,

“that's all you have to do to make her smile anymore." And I just got fuck you eyes. I just got fuck you eyes”

Benedict. Oh, look at me. It's Carl. Now they're on the first floor. I can walk into this room also.

I can do a fun little dance. I'm in the mix. Whoa. Afterwards, we're going to go to a common ground. I'll do those dance for more and more people. Whoa. So, um, the guys go to the gym and then me and Sarah talking in their bed about the conversation at last, at the last dinner, um, about, you know, living as a black person on reality TV. And, um, she's like, you know, I'm really happy you brought that conversation up. You know, it was needed. How do you feel? And Sarah's like, "I'm

surprised at it in Kremor." Um, you know, and she talks about how she gets, oh, no, we saw the flash back to the conversation. And me is like, you know, I appreciate everybody in the house just letting you talk and holding space for the conversation and not interjecting and saying like, "Oh, I know what that feels like," you know, because you don't. Just, actually, it's just pretty impressive if you think about it for a reality. I know, it has to be able to just sit there and

listen and not be like, "Yeah, I understand what it is like, 'cause, you know, like, times people leave me mean comments about DJing, too." I could man, not. Man, that's it. We call those magic rations. A lot of blowback when you're a DJ, people just don't understand. I don't understand what you're up to. You know, I had to have the conversation when I was younger. The conversation was sometimes

“they'll come a day when you will be DJing and people walk out of the room and you have to be okay with it.”

It's tough time for me as well, Sierra. Um, so Sierra is like, should me as saying like, yeah, we can sit here and be like this conversation is going to change the way we look at things and

not at, you know, and everyone else's world, but it's not. And so me as, like, me, I basically,

they're just, me as just very appreciative that Sierra broke this conversation. So it was nice like, follow up conversation about the conversation. And, um, and they're just happy that at least, they know they're like, "Well, we, we're not going to necessarily change the world with that conversation, we, but like, it's just nice to know that the people that we live with can understand our experience." Yeah, so then outside, um, Amanda and Lindsay are in the, outside Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen,

KJ Swimming, and Amanda and Lindsay are in the kitchen talking. And, um, they're talking about how Lindsay got her sweatpants from Amanda, and they're like such good friends now, they can't believe that. And Amanda's like, "Yeah, I'm like, what about you and Carl last night? That was fun."

“And then we see Lindsay being like, "Yeah, well, I said you should ain't Carl,”

like you may not ever fucking, but like, at least he can have a conversation each and only you." See, I'm nice. I love every time you say, "See, I'm nice." Like, "Oh, she is. Like, that's my friend."

Did anything fun at me?" And she's like, "Uh, uh, uh, and then we go back up to Sierra's room."

And me as like, you know, we had such a long day yesterday, like, I left the hot tub. I don't even know who went upstairs with me, but like, I literally just left you guys because I was so tired. Like, who's downstairs? What happened? And then we go back down to Amanda and Lindsay. Yeah, she's like, "You didn't hear any of it? Oh my God. I don't even know what to happen." And Kyle's just being mean. He was like calling me names and throwing a hissy fit, and we're

trying to talk to him. I'm a what was he throwing a hissy fit? I don't even know. He was just like, "I'm sad. I'm not hanging out with him." And then, "Oh my God." I'm like, "Quite like three times." I don't even know the last time I cried.

I don't even think I was, "No, damn, make her."

But she's like smiling, still, which is weird. And then Amanda is just saying, like, "You know, he's going through his own shit. It's not an excuse. I didn't treat him like shit when I was depressed, you know, and we're going through whatever I was going through." And then upstairs, here, is like, "Yeah, I'm so over the way he speaks to her. Like, my gut reaction is you cannot have kids with him." Yeah. There's like, "End the bloodline. Don't go farther. Don't get more involved

in this. Don't throw good money after bad." Like, "Exactly. I mean, I trust you like this.

“He's going to be like this with the kids. Like he'll be a bad guy." Yeah, like kids, you know?”

And so, be competitive with a child. By the way, he will 100% lose his mind once there's a baby in

the picture. Yeah. Another baby, I should say. As they often do, we see it happen over and over again.

Yeah, I'm a chairman with the baby. Like, "Oh, and hey, pay more attention to the baby to me." Oh, wow. The baby can DJ, but I can't. Oh, the baby's just like pressing the button. It's on the car stereo. Oh, yeah, the baby DJing. That's a cool man. So, me as a baby, a little baby, a little baby, bitch. He was like, "What do you think is keeping them together?"

And she was like, "Pitch, I don't know." So, Amanda is saying, "Well, it's his birthday party today, so we're going to make it a great day, smiles all around." You know, like, legitimately, you're like, "It's so good. It compartmentalizing." Like, that is like a legit compliment. That is, by coming from Lindsay, that's a massive compliment. Lindsay's like a bento box. So, when she's like, "It's such a good-a-good job compartmentalizing. I got to learn a thing

or two." Then you know you're really in some shit. Lindsay's like a silver-weight drawer. compartmentalizes. Okay. She's like, "I'm like a modular citizen for my gear." Yeah. So, if she's saying that you're good at it, then whoa. Me, that's a high compliment. So, Amanda is saying, "Well, you know, I have to. I guess I'm just excited to see what

“he looks like, old." And she was, "I'm a young, then you should be like the hotline. Like,”

you shouldn't even come down and eat. Make 'em." Uh-uh, I love being an old woman. Let's go. I know. No, it just suits me. I'm doing pretend like I don't feel like that was an insult, but I want to wear a nightgun and socks at the club every night. So, it's 11/9, 8/8. I hope. You guys are trying to find the gym. Carl's been training for a marathon. God's, "Hall, marathon." People, KJ brings some groceries.

They follow all over the floor. He's like, "Of course, thank God the eggs are rubber banded." Everyone's having a pool morning and Amanda just keeps going out there going, going out there saying, "Guys, I need help with decorations because there's a lot of stuff to bring in, and they just kind of look at her, and then jump in the pool and keep talking." Yeah. Melody, nobody will help her. So, by the way, this is on the heels of Kyle accusing her of not paying attention to him,

not doing anything for him, and she's the only one sitting standing up this stupid party for her his birthday. Right, when he's nowhere to be seen. After the nothing that he did last for her next week, or last week, except buying her a really expensive watch. So, in the kitchen, Lindsay's talking to KJ, and they're talking about Dara, and he's like, "I'm man, she's coming, but I'm kind of in my head right now." You are? Yeah, but like, it's fine.

“Wait, where are you in your head? Are you nervous about everyone in the house?”

Like, no, you're about your relationship, and trying to cause problems in your relationship, because that would be terrible if that happens. You know, because like, do you really like her? Or like, does she say she likes you? Or do you like her? Oh my God, you guys said that already? He's like, yeah, it's like mutual. Um, yeah, because I know that Ben and her were kind of flirting, so what happened with that? I would hate for people to be messy in your relationship.

So, everyone is like talking about that, but like, it's like literally it was like nothing to her. She was just like flirting because like, she's like, "Yeah, it's a fun person of flirt with." Oh, is that, like, so what did that talk? What did they, what were they doing talking in his room for an hour?

pro at this point. It's like pretending to be like all supportive and connected with K-Jage.

“Like, so why was that on talk with Ben and his room privately behind a door for an hour?”

Do you talk about that? He's like, "Well, I'm here every other week, and you're too happy."

Um, I don't know you very well, but here's what I do know.

You're way too happy to be on this show. So let me fuck this out, right now for you. Let me crush you. You don't, man. And he's like, "What? But I'm like emo and sensitive. Why are you doing this to me?" I'm going to destroy you under the power of my reality TV spells. Oh my god, look at your heart breaking. That's so sweet. Oh, my god, I just say one thing. Oh, what? Oops!

Okay. So according to Bailey, like, they're willing to Ben's room and they're for like an hour. And then we see a flashback to Lindsay Levi and Bailey having lunch and Bailey being like "Um, yeah, she literally went into Ben's room, where the outfit and came out in another." And I was like, "Ah, I mean, she went in her costume and she came out in a different outfit." That's what I saw.

Levi's like, "Well, it could be harmless. Da, da, da, da, da."

It wasn't almost. I could tell there was a sweet green bowl and then when there was a sweet green bowl, she goes down, okay? This is a different person. By the way, I love the idea that Bailey saw someone go into her room, close the door. They went in in a costume and came out, not in a costume. There I said that might be a crazy concept called getting out of your costume.

It's crazy. Well, you know that king, where you dress like a pirate, but then you fuck somebody and you're no longer dressed like a pirate. It's crazy. Okay, there's like, "Uh, I didn't know anything about the room thing. Oh, god, I'm already nervous. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. What's her name again?"

She lives like even though who KJ is. She's like, "Who is this guy?"

You know, she's like, "Whatever, I'm just going to fuck you up for him." She's like, "Oh, that's kind of weird, though." Oh, well, now you're going to be in your head about it. Sorry. So then, today goes on and people are still trying to get set up. And I'm just still doing everything by us. We just see Amanda carrying things through the front door

and like filling the pool with these blow-up pills, which I guess is a sponsor, whatever they, whatever they think. There's those old people, so it's like the medication that old people have to take. Yeah, so Lindsay, come, oh, I thought they were like those pills you get in the 7/11. They're like, yeah, maximum strength, Dickie, you know, Dickie's bloater, or whatever. Lindsay and Sierra see each other and Lindsay's wearing a zebra outfit. And she's like, "Um, yeah,

I wore this stuff out with Carl. Just kidding. I'm totally just kidding, but I'm not really kidding." And Sierra's like, "Oh my god, zebra." That's like a distant memory I forgot about. And we see a flashback to three summers ago with Lindsay being like, " Carl, really, like, zebra!" He has a thing with stripes, right? Like, he loves Tim Lines. He loves zebra.

He's really into it. He's like, "Oh, if I see, if I go into a lady foot locker, I'll like." So, um, yeah, the you make zebra, the fake animals they brought in. That's like the cardboard cut out to that ear. Oh, I hated those. Those last have for so many years. I didn't think got those in season two, like off the side of the road at like some antique shop and then they kept them

“around for years and years. Ugh, Wesley stripes, I'll never forget. So, um, uh, yeah, and we see”

footage of Wesley stripes and Carl bring the fake zebra into the house. But whoa, all we've got of this is a little bit of a big airfall, no prayer God, he's got stripes. So hot, oh, I love the stripes. Oh, um, so, uh, back to present, Sierra's like, um, by the way, I do remember, like, being really, like, I was really stuck on this thing for a month, like, Carl likes zebra? I think it was like messing. It's like rocking Sierra's a world for a month,

which is like, how so much going on in the world. But Carl likes zebra. That's the one thing I can't make sense of. Yeah. So in the back Carl sees KJ and he's like, oh, how are we doing, bro? How are we doing? We in the mix. He's like, uh, I'm, I'm all right. Are you a little stressed? I sense it. I sense it a little rather. Come on. Sit down. Tell me. Tell, tell, tell a coral. Why are you stressed? He's like, yeah, you know, it's just like challenging,

'cause I just heard some shit, bro. I'd like heard some shit, like through word of mouth. Like, whenever Dara was here, she was just like in Ben's room for, like, an hour or some shit.

“Yeah, well, I think though what you're going to discover a little bit, and Carl's going to this”

a lot, uh, me, oh, me as well, at times, is that when there's two people in the house that have an interest in each other, it becomes fodder and bigger for the house, the whole house to discuss.

in someone else, but perhaps, and I don't know, brick and mortar, that also becomes fodder for

“the whole house whole. And I think it's hard, especially because, no, which I don't like to say that,”

because I'm more of a soft guy, but it is hard, especially when you know you're new and trying to get to know her. So, uh, I feel like man. Yeah, like if you think you're going to be in this house, and stick your penis inside a wooden zebra's nostril, and not get called out on it, you're in the wrong house this morning. Oh, um, so Kate, I was like, yeah, I'm already like, I'm already anxious about Darra coming to the house, and like making sure she's having a good

time, and feels like included, and then I'm being reminded of this party that I already felt jealous of Ben, because I like Darra, and I'm just like, and I like her now, and like I've said,

like, I'm a very honest person, and if she wasn't being honest about that, then like,

what are you hiding? I'm like, okay, you're adorable, but like, you got her, like, don't worry, like, I think everything's okay. The insecurity I can't. Like, you're a model,

“you are a model, sir. I think you're from you. He's like, what's that model more than me?”

Like, you're both models. You would think that I would love model insecurity, but it's, it's making me crazy. I'm like sitting here, like playing with my muffin top, like, I wonder if this'll ever go away, or if I have to get this cut off. And then I've got 20 pack up there, like, I'm so insecure, I can't take it. So they're talking about her coming, and Kyle is like, just Kyle's there now. He's like, oh, he's like, yeah, he's just coming here though, right?

It's just just tuned it out, just tuned it out, just tuned it out, just to ignore it, didn't happen. I'm glad he didn't give you fuck, he fuck you guys. Just keep telling you something about all the way. So then at the pool chair, his band is sitting there with Jesse and West, and he's like, so did you hear a bit less nonsense activities after you left? It's like, oh, yeah, the West was saying that I got pretty mature when he came upstairs. No, no, I was saying I got the soda machine

to be like, it means in the sweet, sweet salsa. What are you talking about? I like he says perturbed and West goes, whoa, that's a big word. And then we see footage of him being perturbed. So then me while back to President Sierra walks up to the chairs, he sits, she sits down with the guys and she's like idiots. It's like idiots. What's that guy? So they're talking about last night and West says, you know, I told him he has to apologize, and he was saying that she gave me

fuck you eyes. And Sierra's like, are you being serious? He's like, yeah, I swear, and I was like, dude, what the fuck? We're just like sitting there, and then Amanda comes out and said, guys, there's still tons of decorations out front. She's like got stuff on her back in her arms. On alexari, we can't help you. We were just talking about the destruction of your marriage

“and how you should never have babies with this man and probably should divorce. And okay,”

good luck with that palm tree. We're all talking about how poorly we feel for you, but nobody's going to lift a finger to help you on this really rough day for you. Okay, get to it Amanda. Jesus. She just gives me fuck you eyes because all kicks up bitches. That's right now. Jess is like, has anybody talked to him about it today? Do we know if you remember us? West is like, I was like teetering on the line of being, should we fucking ask him if he even has a fucking

clue? And she was like, not today, like, first birthday, just like leave it alone. And I just got like scare because it was like a confrontation. So I just had to come son to answer. It's like, I

think he was actually going to do this. Like, no, you were never going to do this. You're just going to

swim around and loaf and relax by the pool. Yeah. And so serious, like, yeah, I don't know how she does that because if I'm pissed, everybody knows and West goes, yeah, we know. No start laughing. It's like, yeah, there's no great area. So meanwhile, Amanda's like, guys, please, can anybody help me? I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm like, yeah, whatever Amanda, okay, I can Amanda get us all put that. God poor Amanda, my right guys. Poor Amanda. And I don't know if

it was happening at this specific moment or like in a few beats from now. She at one point, she just has this tree. And she's just trying to set up this tree and the palm front keeps slapping on the face. And I was like, this is the metaphor. And she's like, say everything's fine, guys. Everything's fine. No, that's meant because they continue to talk about Amanda. And whenever they're like poor Amanda, and it just cuts to Amanda being poked in the eye with the tree. And then she

like literally just stands there. Like with the tree still poked in her eye. And she's like, oh, poor Amanda actually helps her. No, no, no, it actually helps her. She also doesn't get the fuck away from the tree. I haven't point out, which is. You don't wait for the tree. Amanda Jesus. I can change the tree. I know I can fix the tree. Yeah, I'll fix it. So Ben tells

and Sierra. And he's like, yeah, you know, I had a chat with him. I'm going to love a boy to

“check it out. And I didn't realize this, but he's personally on the hook for love a boy, millions of”

dollars. So apparently Kyle guaranteeed a $4 million loan back when Loverboard was doing well,

and was still going up. And there's still 2 million owed more than 2 million owed on this debt. So if Loverboard takes and he's bankrupt and he lost everything to which I say, why would you do a personal loan on like that's not my fault? What'd you do that? Yeah. It's a stupid decision. That is absolutely idiotic. So what I get that that would stress you out. And I feel for you because it's too expensive. Loverboard is too expensive.

And I don't know. Do you ever see anybody drinking Loverboard? Because I feel like it should be it has enough press that it should be like a huge thing. I guess what's weird to me is how is that that like, you know, 15 years later, somehow black water still exists. And I see it in stores. I see it everywhere. How is it that that is like thriving? How is it that poppy? The soda that those two people on house hunters made that they like brought to Whole Foods and they brought

to a convention and then they bought a house on house owners. And then they stole that for like two billion dollars. Like that's doing well. I guess I'm just saying that answers. I mean, look, the black water A was something that was marketed as health, right? Because it's like the things that are in black, why whatever it is, the alkaline or whatever it is. That's white black and it's kind of a health thing. Also, those guys sold it right away. I mean, they had black water. They sold it to a

“huge company. That's why it's still huge because they've got the huge company marketing it.”

Then you've got Bobby and I think Poppy did well because it was another health thing. It was like a probiotic soda. You can drink soda, but you also get all these health benefits. Loverboard is drinking an alcohol when that's kind of going down in the world. And there's also, it's also so oversaturated with that statics. Yeah, it's like white claw and all that stuff. And also, like, sometimes those, I don't, I don't know what the status is of alcoholic, self-sers and spritzes and whatever, but like,

you know, drinking fats come and go. I mean, sweet tea vodka. Hello, I love my sweet tea vodka. Oh, that was the best with like some lemonade. Oh, the best. And you're like, this is the best thing

that's ever happened to alcohol. I will never abandon it. And the next thing you know, it's gone.

Mike's hard lemonade or like, no hard lemonade here and then gone. So like, I don't know where the salts are trained as these days, but like, if the fat is receding, that probably is also part of it because as you wisely mentioned, those those beverages, first of all, sodas, or their non-alcohol, like, and they're tied to health. But like, it just seems to me that Kyle has like a lot of, has been able to give this brand a huge amount of press and we all know about lover boy.

We all know what lover boy is. It's at all these events that he does and like the fact that it's tanking, which is, by the way, it's a great for business to announce like multiple times on your

“show that your business is totally tanking. Well, when we're on here, how did it go so far, Rai?”

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