#3280 Southern Charm S11E18 Reunion 2 Part Two: No Craig to Stand On

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“How long, baby, months were you guys crazy before all this?”

Um, not a long time. What, like, five months? Yeah, you may be here. Well, you guys are around the world best free in a lot. So hard that I fucking hate it.

Fucking hate it. Yeah. Well, I know you're not. You're no longer dating Craig, but are you dating anyone now? And I was like, I am.

He's from Boston. And he's on Southern hospitality. Yeah, he works at the club. And it's Justin. Justin the news.

He's ball on Southern hospitality. Sal, I mean, Charlie, come on. [laughs] Just actively who dating two other women. Yeah, Justin.

He just said last week. Yeah. Mia. She's got a really nice pair of personality. Right.

And not funny. Charlie. Really? Come on. Charlie.

Jesus. You do better. You can do better. Um, so. And he's like, "Great.

Do you know Justin?" Yeah.

I always say hi to him when he comes in the bar.

[laughs] This is a funny thing to say. I did know him. I always say hi to him. You're welcome, Justin.

I think he's sure to remind everybody that he's above Justin, because Justin's coming in his bar. And he's the bar owner. Yeah. And Justin.

He's a nice guy. He's nice. Uh, well, let's say something else. Let's talk to move on. Well, Austin had to tell me the Vegas by the way.

Because Charlie and I were still like hanging out. And then finally, Austin sat me down and Vegas. And he was like, dude, whatever she's telling you. That's like not talking. Like shit.

That she's not talking to someone. Like I met him. And he was like, he's real. She brought him to the barn. Said I'm in love.

And she was like, I never said I wasn't talking to anyone else.

What are you talking about? And she's like, I gave you a lot of chances to tell me the star of the show. That you were talking to someone else. They never did.

“And then it was like, Craig, you need to know this.”

Just talk to other two other guys. And then I asked you and used to be by the hand. He said, I'm not talking to anyone else. Me, you just said that it was Austin to told you. And now you're saying, what's the value of told you?

Come on. He came and keep your life straight, Craig. And wouldn't know. And when he says, Austin had to tell me in Vegas. Does that mean Bravo.

That means Bravo. Yeah, Bravo. Austin had to tell me Vegas because Charlie and I were still like hanging out. But Charlie dumped you at the end of the season. So we saw Charlie dumped you.

So it doesn't she have the right today. He's this is, I think this is complete fabrication. What he's doing here. I do too.

It's the typical thing that he always does when he breaks up with somebody.

He's like, well, she's a slut. And she was cheating on me the whole time. Yeah, it's class 100%. So Charlie's like, I never said I wasn't talking to anyone. Oh, yes, so you did that part.

So Charlie's like, yeah, none of that happened. And Craig, as they have it on camera. Okay, where we didn't see anything that you just said on camera. And she goes, I swear that did not happen.

“And because why would it matter because weren't you broken up?”

No, we were not. She goes, we were never dating. We were not together. We went on two dates. On camera.

But we would always go out. Like, I was strong on. I feel like no, it was a little like, I can't, I can't believe I know what this means now. Because it's just like, and do you feel gas lit? Yeah, I was love bomb.

I also got this fucking guy. He doesn't even know what love bomb me. Okay, but I have to keep going back. Because I just feel like Craig is lying lying. We were never dating.

We were not together. We went on two dates. She says. And he says on camera. But we would always go out.

And I was strong on. So are you talking about when you were going out as a group? Are you counting that as a date? Because you're acting like Sally's crazy for counting that as anything other than friendship. You know what I mean?

What does he tell you about? I don't believe one thing he says. And you were not love bombed. We saw the show. She literally told you multiple times.

Like, well, I mean, I think I'd like you, too. I mean, it's not love bomb. Yeah, expressing interest in someone is not love bombing. And he is the ultimate love bomber. He is the one who is going to be like,

"We could like get like chickens somewhere and then like you can come over and like we can like have barbecue." Like he is the one who's always sort of painting these pictures. And he's like this sweet guy. But I do think like a trait of narcissists is that they often turn the tables on their victim and paint them out. You could be the one who's...

What? You do. Just kidding. The threat of narcissists. I was like, "How do you love bombing me?"

[laughs] Yeah, I'd love to be loved.

So great. So great. I'm of a narcissist.

“But like, that's like, I think from what I am from what I have read and from what I have learned about”

narcissism. And of course, I am not a license therapist. I'm not a license. Anything, barely just a license driver that like narcissists will often turn the tables and switch the narrative up on the person that they are victimizing and make it turn themselves into the victim. So the fact that Craig is like, "She was love bombing me."

Like you were the one who's coming on to Charlie. You were the one who's pursuing Charlie. She was the one who was trying to be like, "Maybe let's not be so big about this." And you're like, "We just need to be free."

So that way we can finally have our relationship.

And even later on this episode, you're like, you're the one who literally told Charlie that she made you feel better than even page made you feel or something like those lines. And you just have some grandiose statement about Charlie. Yes, he said. Yeah, I'd like to even more than my ex. Right.

That's a love bomb right there. That's a love bomb. Yeah, and he was making it sound like they had this toward a fair and she was cheating on him. When the fact is, you guys dated casually, and then she saw how you acted towards women and dumped you. It's not really that deep.

Yeah, that's what's on camera. But instead, he's like, "Oh, no, you were faced. I mean, me from your friends weddings." And like, it started to be the talk of the town. Like who takes me via FaceTime to a friend's wedding.

That's like serious. Then they're like, "Talking town." I like when he said that in 1920. "Talking town." What did you hear about Gatsby?

Did you hear about Gatsby? It's the role of a party. I was like, "What?" It's like, "Oh, they're the talk of the town. We should have stopped them in the tracks.

They will never get a doll about Ashalance."

Did you hear that this season has been dominated by Craig? And Charlie, it's like, "Well, we're the talk of the town. We've faced time."

“And then it's like, "That's what love bombing is."”

Charlie, go there. It was no. Charlie, let's go. No. Yeah.

Like there was some future planning from you. Charlie, did you love bomb Craig? She goes, "Oh, I do not feel like I love bomb Craig." And he had to have been stifling a laugh like a chuckle when he was saying that.

Like sometimes Andy asks his question. And even though he is just laughing so hard on the inside. Because he knows that Charlie did not love bomb Craig. And she said he did not like rattle. Like this is not a love bomber this girl.

So she made it though. Yeah, I didn't do that.

I love to look on her face.

She's just like, "What is even happening right now?" And Craig's like, "You made it seem to me like we're going to make it out of filming." She dumped you on the finale. What are you talking about? And he's like, " Craig, it's not been involved in the picture.

Do you think things would have worked out?" Yeah. Oh, so now it's Sally's fault. So now it's not the fact that she's a love bombing slut who was cheating on you all the time. Now it's just all Sally's fault.

Also you're a lary.

“You're allowed to aspire for like the future without it being love bombing.”

You know? Like that's okay. It's not a love bomb situation. She likes it until she saw the real you. And then she didn't make any more. Get the fuck over her.

He wasn't a love bomb. It was like dummy. Love. I don't even know if there was a bomb. There's not even an analogy.

There's not even a small version of it. It's not even like a love static shock. Like a static shock. There's nothing. I'm sorry.

I love seeing that. There it was. There it was. It's a love song. She loves love bombing.

I'm on your shirt. But God's like damn it. So Sally's like, "Well, that's crazy. Look Charles is even shaking her hand." Charlie's like, "I told you in Mexico.

I felt completely different after that." But at the end of the season, you said, "I can't do this anymore, right?" And she goes, "Yes." And Craig's like, "Yeah, but after the freak out and everything." Yes.

The freak out was like a very valid reason, Craig. He's like, "Whatever." Mexico happened. But what I'm saying is up until Mexico. It doesn't matter what happened up until Mexico.

You have other people in Mexico and acted like a drunk coke out fucking asshole. And then she dumped you. What are you not getting? It's not because she's a dumb slut, Craig.

And it's not because she was webbombing you. It's because she saw you. Yeah, she goes to Craig and I had every intention of continuing to hang out with you afterwards. And then in Mexico, I decided I didn't want to do that anymore.

See, and that's fine. No, it really is not fine, Craig. Are you okay? I'm fine. Are you sure?

Yeah. I'm just, I'm not trying to upset you. It's upsetting me and I feel like you were trying to tell me how I was feeling the entire time. And you're like trying to say to everyone like, "No, she was telling me this

and she was telling me this." And then I have to go tell my mother, "No, I was being decent. Trust me, I was being very decent." Because he's gaslighting and he's manipulating. He's like, "What?

All I've ever done is say how I felt in the relationship."

You didn't say how you felt.

“You said that she was cheating on you and love bombing you.”

But it's not your feelings. You literally... Ronnie, I don't weaponize my own rebellion. You guys weaponize my own rebellion to be a fuck off. You love bomb, my love vulnerability.

So now they have a break. And now Charlie is just love. Like she's fully like in her rattled face. Like Charlie is one of the best rattled faces we have on Bravo. Like she is crying but people are doing her makeup too.

So she's like, "I meant to get a screenshot of it because it was so brilliant." But Charlie's like, it's just like awful. Like, "Hey, I'm sorry. I'm just like, it's fine. I'm just fine.

Now you're doing so good." I'm just like really overwhelmed right now. You know? It's like, it's a hard day. It's your first one.

It's hard. Just like Austin's penis is hard. Who are you? I'm going to show you this. Because every time I see Charlie,

I play sackboy with my nieces. And whenever Charlie makes this face, I crack up laughing because it is when sackboy gets defeated. So I'm just going to put this on the screen. Sorry for people who are just listening.

But this is important. This is sackboy's defeated face. Share. Share. It's share.

It's share. Musician. Isn't that Charlie's face? Which one? No it is.

Go on on the left for sure. The shit out there becomes that. It makes me laugh every time I play sackboy. Now I'm like, "Great!" It's time for commercial.

It's time for a crappiness commercial. So yeah, she's crying. And the guys we have to go shoot. No, we can't shoot because Charlie's still crying. I'm just like, "I just hate them telling me over and over again.

What's a Mexico? What's a Mexico? Like, "Okay, it's one foot, one foot out. What's a Mexico?" And I don't like you anymore.

I don't. I saw Mexico and I did not like you anymore. Just understand that. Geez. I saw Mexico and I realized I needed to raise my standards from what I want out of the man.

“So that's why I'm dating Justin from Southern Hospitality.”

Exactly. I realized I wanted a real gentleman. So I went to Justin. So then on the stage, Craig is like, "That's bullshit. Like, I was perfect up until then."

And Madison's like, "Uh, maybe not perfect. Maybe that's a little bar. Okay." But like, not enough that you're going to take some misshap and like say it's over. Like you were looking for a way out.

Well. No, it wasn't a misshap. She saw a glimpse into the future. A misshap is like, you had like a drink with friends after work. And you said you come right back.

I guess that would be like a misshap. But like, try a bubble stone. Yeah. A misshap. Yeah.

A misshap. A bubble stone. Yeah, the gilded age hasn't as many victims. It won't leave us the gilded age.

Also, it wasn't the first time.

It was the party when you went off on Austin for like a little jab that he had made. It started screaming and yelling and acting like a crazy person. Then there was the dinner where you did the same thing. Then there was when else did he do it. He did a multiple times.

And she thought there was a map to those times. Yeah. And she talked to them after those times. Like after the Austin one, she was like, "Oh, you know, maybe going to handle that differently."

I mean, she had to talk to you after multiple times of you doing this Craig. That was just the last strawster. Yeah. I think that I think that this phrase of I was perfect until then. This is not the second time you said it. I was perfect.

I was doing so well. I was being perfect. To me, like, maybe that what he's trying to say is like, like, I was a great boyfriend. I was a great boyfriend.

I had one mess about I was a great boyfriend. Maybe that's what he's saying. But to me, it's really coming off as like, "Hey, I was able to maintain this facade really well." And now I messed up, you know?

And like, it's just rubbing me the wrong way.

“And that's how he's making it sound like they have this long-term thing going on”

to the kept dating after Vegas, which was rubble on. And she's saying, "No." Okay, Sally says, "You're up against Craig Connover. He's very good at manipulating and gaslight. And which, you know, is why I try and comforting the whole episode."

And Charlie is like, "Well, I mean, seriously, like before Mexico, we would talk like every day. And then after Mexico, we talked one time. And that was the finale party that we all saw. So why is he making it sound like they have

this long time so crazy? Because he wants to make himself look like the sweet guy who got, you know, victimized by some Callous fame star of the woman. So they all returned to the set and Craig's like, it's just like a little unfair for you to say in Mexico.

But it was. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. We come on. Guys, come on. We have to go. Come on.

Cut that, Tom. And we're back with the Southern Drama Union.

Charlie, some lessons first season for you.

What have you learned? Um, yeah. I mean, I definitely had to work on my communications style like this season and my friendships. Um, so, yeah.

It's like, okay.

Cool. Well, that's a nice broad answer.

Tension's trained with this group bar. Chef had the idea to bring everyone on a restorative journey. But when explosive cast ensued, the group probably needed a healing drip from

very healing drip. So he asked Chef about Austin and Craig's friendship at the time. It seemed a little optimistic that you were trying to make this work. Why did you think it would be successful? And he's like, easy.

'Cause the best times we've been trapped, the best times we've ever had are when we're traveling. No one really cares how much coke we do. They usually brings us all together, Andy. But it's some of our biggest fights, also.

I'm like, yeah, you're a part of, sir. So he ended up as like, so what? That's true. But it's all perfect. Yeah, well, you know what?

So like, what are you talking about? Well, Austin, you and Craig seemed to be having fun

at the start of the Mexico trip.

How do you go from hating each other as enemies to being bodies? And was there ever any sexual gratification that there may be some footage of that I can see? Hmm.

Because I'm fucked in the head, Amy. That's basically, okay. You know, we're going on the group death. It's like the pain of death going on the group. You know, I'm just trying to have fun.

I'm going to do my thing. I don't worry about, you know, like anything else. I just want fun. That's like really all I wanted to do. Who's what?

That's fucking fun, Andy. So you were forced to hang out with me.

“And then, witness, like, oh, see this flip flopping?”

I mean, in this moment alone, they've gone from being at each other's throats to back in good graces. I mean, what the hell, guys? I mean, it was not a great observation by me.

Well, I would see it. It's what keeps us on the edge of our seats that we're in there. So, and by the way, I would be more than open to having you on the edge of my seat right now. Okay, Vinita, at the dinner, you brought out their relationship.

And Rodrigo was like, no, she didn't.

She basically said girlfriend,

awesome needs to stand up for himself. And obviously, you know, Sasha, you stay. Shantay, you don't stay. So Craig took that implication like that.

We knew it was like, no, Rodrigo. It's, I mean, stop you. That was being asked. Yeah. She was like, I think what I was doing.

Yeah. I appreciate the defense. No, I was, I was big messy. And it went there. I was like, yeah, and Craig didn't just spout off entirely unprovoked.

I mean, I looked at him and I said, we know that's about you. Well, Craig, walk us through what got you so upset. And he's like, I'm just sick of being metled with and wait for it. It's my code word that you read in every comment standing up for me.

I was poked. And I was prodded. Oh, thanks, Jack. Thanks for all those postings you've made, Jack. Now, Austin and I, it seemed like like meddling of being like,

well, you have to stand up to Craig. And I was like, I'm just so sick of everyone getting involved in my business. Sally, did you think that Craig overreacted? How to?

“I think there were things he was making good points on.”

But he was delivering it completely wrong. But he doesn't like, yeah, the, you were saying was like, really hurtful. Well, Austin, do you think Craig's problem is only his delivery? Or also the thing that he said, because I'm hearing a lot about delivery.

Okay. But sometimes it's not UPS. It's what you ordered from Amazon. Am I right, guys? I'm a dead.

And Austin's like, well, all the things he said. And then, you know, Craig knows. And Chefs bragged about it, too. Like, sorry to give you a straight shit. But, you know, chef bragged about knowing the things that will cut you the deepest.

And he's like, you know, piss me off enough. And I'll say the things that will cut you the deepest. You know, well, Craig has that, too. Mostly because Chef tells him. Well, Vinita, well, well, Vinita, I really have no ill will towards you.

And I thank you for all the words you said. But in the moment, what I was being told from Sally, like Vinita said this, and Vinita said we can't hang out in that message. And I was getting relieved. It was like, without Vinita talks about you a lot.

And so like a dinner, like after not saying anything all year. Like, you're right. I guess, like, no, I'm like, I guess I could have come to you and said, like, why are you madling? This is like Sally's fault.

Can you believe it? She, she killed the chickens. She's a chicken killer. Just want everyone to know.

“Vinita's like, wow, is this some accountability coming from you?”

Yeah, well, like, I shouldn't have waited, but I guess I avoided it. Okay, wow, Craig. Whoa, okay. Don't talk about what happened in the van. He's like, oh, okay.

It was terrible. I wasn't a right mind. Yeah, but also like, what was going through my head was like, I tell him, I'm kind of seeing what people warn me a little bit about you, huh? Who's hot?

And Craig's like, yeah, right. I was like, he's main, but he'd be a good daddy. Whoa. [laughs] No, I mean, it just sucks to mess up, you know?

Because I hadn't done that for like two years, you know? Okay, but like, don't disregard me like that. Because you still need to take accountability for your anger. And Rodrigo's like, I mean, talk about a tornado girlfriend.

Yeah, I was like, 'cause they caught a break.

Break tornadoes.

“If Craig was the tornado, awesome was definitely the rain coming down.”

That's for sure. Yeah. [laughs] Just like, what? I had, okay, whatever.

Austin, you were silent in the van. Why? He's like, I was in the van. I had like a hat pulled down. And I was like, you know what?

I don't want fucking do with this. Until God's at the point where Rob was like, please fucking help me nap. You hear me in the background? Snoring.

Most is snoring. You hear me, right? Uh. Hey, just so you know, Craig, if you have a real friend, they would have calmed you down versus let you continue to explode.

Oh, please Madison, stop standing up for shitty men, especially when the one in question or one of the ones in question is one that you dumped for being a shitty man. Yeah, yeah. Give me a pro.

No. You're right. Like, a real friend also wouldn't be just screaming

at people in the first place.

A real friend wouldn't be standing there telling someone who's obviously wrong that they're right over and over again. And then saying if things like, if you had a real friend, just to watch them fight more and ruin their friendship further, Madison, sneak.

No. I just think I just think that if I see a friend in that kind of situation where clearly he was like out of his mind, I wouldn't have just sat there and let him continue to do that. To calm them down, I'm like the point is that everyone was scared of him.

And they were just like, they knew that there was no getting through to him and they'd been down this path before. Then you shouldn't have to calm him down. He's not the victim. He's currently victimizing someone else. I mean, if anything, she should be like, yeah,

why wasn't if Sally had me real friends, I would have been standing up for her instead of just watching her get fucking yelled at and called the loser over and over again in a tight space by man standing over her and pointing his finger in her face

and spitting all his fucking coke spit all over her.

Yeah, you don't get it because you weren't there. All right, all right.

“Ship, what's your take about this urine in the van?”

But you weren't about it. Gosh, well, I know how painful it can be, knowing that you're not quite sure what happened, but you know it was bad. It's just such a helpless feeling.

It's just such a lonely feeling. It must have been the same feeling that one felt in the rice patties of Vietnam. Gosh, I just watched the documentary again. It's still so good to Vietnam.

Why can't Burns watch it everyone? Pretend I just said that, but I'm in CP at home. Gosh. And Craig's like, well, that's not a fun place for anyone. I know what it's warranted and you aren't in.

But it's this inner turmoil and you just can't get rid of it. And it takes time to get rid of it. I've been there before, but now look, I'm chef. The good person of the season. Yeah, I had entering that much in fucking years.

And I mean, I was just in a place that like, no one should be in. Craig, you were drinking all season. You were like that all last year. This year, what do you think? Even last year when everyone's like, he was sober.

He was not sober. He was like, I'm just drinking like wine and beer now instead of. I don't care. I just take you. I was just like kind of emotionally spent and drank like entirely way too much.

And it triggered like a legit meltdown. And obviously, if it wouldn't, if I, if I wouldn't have drunk and anything, it wouldn't have happened in its socks. And like that's on me. It's like very embarrassing.

Although Sally is the one who did make me drink. But then like, yeah, like, I wouldn't, like, but like, would I ever be drinking for like 16 hours straight without food and water? And it's like, Craig, you make a sound like you're deprived of natural resources. And Andy's like, oh, before Bethany Franklin, right?

It's a certainly worded letter towards me. I want to say we did provide lots of food and sandwich for you. And you're some footage. And they like show footage of like tons of food all day long that there is. And I'm glad you point, I'm glad that he picked that up and you picked that up because that's exactly what Craig was trying to do. Like, what other situation would I be and where they're playing me with drinks for 16 hours a day not letting me eat or drink?

Like, he knows what he's doing and Andy's like, no, no, sorry. We got ya. So he's like, well, you know, I don't want it to seem like you were all put in a cage with Tequila. And not all have to eat or drink, okay, you're not Leah. And Craig's like, well, I don't mean that.

“Well, that's what you made it to that, my Craig.”

Okay, really reckoning is on pause. Okay. So he's like, well, all of us were having the same thing. You know, when I had a freak out like that, come on. Andy, I think it's more of an anger issue than an alcohol issue, girlfriend.

I just think you need to be better at controlling your anger. Yeah, I would say like this. I like this from Rodrigo because Rodrigo honestly doesn't add that much, but I like this call out of Craig because Craig is still trying to turn it. Well, it's the alcohol Andy, you know, it's just I'm constantly working on my addiction. It's like, no, you're an asshole.

You're just an asshole. Admitted to being an asshole. But also like, Craig is kind of doing the inverse of the argument we're seeing more of, which is like, I'm not an alcoholic.

I have to deal with, which is like what Karen Hucer said.

But for Craig's like, no, I don't have anger issues. If the alcohol is the problem, I don't want to address what the real issue is here. And Sally was Sally saying like, yeah, like that was a terrible night. But there've been other nights where you did this. And like, I don't think that's like you're drinking.

I think it is your anger. And so Andy's like, well, Craig, you're a positive Sally. Was that enough to repair your friendship? Because I don't know for completely repairing our friendship. Sally, you look nice today.

Okay, we're back, baby. We're back. I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant. I just got pregnant.

And she's like, you know, I don't think you really came out of your way to apologize to me. And Troy was like, yeah, like, I thought he would like address the group just because it was like kind of the elephant in the room. And like, then I thought like him, you know, and I would have a separate conversation because like I was in the van too.

Like, where's my apology for him yelling as Sally? You know? And he's like, well, there was some extreme avoidance. But I was just in shock.

“Like, how did I let myself get to this point of being starved?”

Right real long people forcing me to drink while I was being loved. And gas lit. Delicious. Here comes one right now. Austin, you said apologies from Craig are meaningless.

What did you mean? What do you think? Andy, it's not coded. It's pretty, on the nose. It's not a real fear.

So many fucking times. And like, I know that Craig man sits here and cops to it. And he's like, I know I should've done that. And I should've done that. But sometimes it's just like, how many more times has that happened?

Like, you know, he yelled at me at my birthday dinner. He yelled at me at the dinner. And then totally told him you had a melt on a one. And one day it's like, holy shit. Like, just like a lot.

You recognize Troy's like, well, there's like nothing I can do, but to continue to work on myself. You're not working on yourself. I'll trade Mark.

I'm just still working progress thing. But your therapist is chat GPT. You're not working on yourself. You're entering in prompts.

“And you're probably entering in prompts that are going to make you look good to chat GPT.”

And chat GPT is like, that was a great story you told. And it wasn't your fault that you yelled at everyone on a van. You were being loved bond. And it's a natural response to screaming people. When that stuff happens, you're doing great Craig.

Wow. We see we're going to get the alcohol discussion in a minute. How great that Siri therapy is going.

So winners like, well, the problem is it feels more than lip service.

It feels more like lip service. Because you say apologies. Because, you know what, you don't even know how much work I've done on myself. And he goes, yeah, we don't know because we're not in the room with you. When you're at the therapist.

He goes, okay. But like, when you say his lip service, like, I'm sorry. It feels that way. But there's no way from you to prove it to you.

Craig, you prove the work you've done on yourself by not being a fucking asshole. That's how you found it. No one has to be in the therapy room. So Madison's like, well, I just think we need the exception for who he is. Need like it or not.

Madison, when have you ever done that? When have you ever had a problem with someone that you were just like, Well, I'm going to accept it. You don't want to fucking more path than you were in their ass. She just loves that Craig gives us in the business.

That's like her favorite thing to watch. So Austin's like, except what? They're afraid of the nestle. God, this fucking shell man. You know, like, maybe this isn't right for me. Like, maybe I just shouldn't be here.

Sounds like you guys need someone else to get loved, bombed on TV. Oh, no, Craig, don't quit. Look what is everybody supposed to start crying. They're just like, okay, bye. What's up?

Don't leave. Yeah. And he's like, I mean, maybe I would love to figure out a way to be able to enjoy this.

Again, it not feel like I'm always like everyone's against me.

Like, even if it's in my own head, like, no matter what your feelings are, you gotta have healthy ways to process them. And I didn't realize that. Like, I just bottle it up. And then, you know, like, when you get so out of control,

there's no more bottling. And it comes out in a horrible way. It's like Austin Spear. It's no longer bottling. [laughs]

And it comes out in a horrible way as in it winds up down people's throat since it's disgusting. So Molly's like, well, I'm actually still here. And I used to have anger management issues. And anger is almost always a secondary emotion stemming from, you know, hurt or fear or whatever.

So yeah, I just like rules you. Wow. Yeah. Well, that night in the van. I was already feeling rejected.

[laughs] Like Charlie said she was one foot in, one foot out.

“And I think like that had already triggered a losing control response.”

Wait, can we pause here? I'm sorry to interrupt. But when, why was he feeling rejected? None of the stuff with Charlie had happened though. It's a lie.

He's just losing the information. He just got, he is an AI bot. He is using the new information. He just found on the web, aka at this reunion. And now he's hallucinating.

That didn't happen. It's not happening at all. And now it's so Charlie's fault. It's Charlie's fault. It's Charlie's fault.

I must have on some level been feeling rejected because I was feeling like rejected. By her.

“And like, I think that like triggered a losing control response,”

because I had just been very sure about something for three years. And then it was gone. So this is now you can blame out of it. Okay, this is well. Yeah, now it's all the way in itself.

Something that you were very sure of even though there's like three years of footage of you saying things like I can't wait till we get married someday. And pitch going, press. [laughs] I feel like I was losing my grasp on like Charlie.

And I was blaming, you know, the situation and the environment. And I freaked out. Okay, well, where do you go from here? Well, I mean, just redirect. You know, and talks with my therapist.

You know, I know it takes a lot of natural resources.

But I never understood that it could be like an angry issue.

You know, I always thought it was like losing control. And because you've never talked to your therapist about any of this. And he's like, well, you know, the last time I was with there, I said, what that song by Stevie Nicks about windmills. [laughs]

You mean landslide, baby? It's not windmills. No, about the thunder in the rainy. How come it only thunders when it rains? Hey, so like, you know, I just focused on like if I didn't drink,

then it wouldn't be an issue.

“And then I could have maybe it was just like, you're depressing other stuff.”

But like then you can't present for prevent stress from happening. And you can't prevent environments from changing on you. And I need to have the tools to deal with it. Like alcohol. So I think it to apologize to everyone.

Obviously, I'm sorry. You know, and I'll just try my hardest to make sure that it never happened again. You just like blamed in this answer. You blamed two women. Yeah, this is such a bad apology.

But also like he clearly does not go to therapy. There's just no way that he's been going to therapy through all of this. And anger has not been brought up. Like that just, you can't tell these stories. You can't tell the stories of your life.

Or he can't tell the stories of his life.

And the therapist never touches on anger.

Like to literally say, I've never correlated the drinking with anger issues. What? No therapist has ever mentioned that to you. Like you may not have correlated it. But a therapist, it's as blatant.

I mean, all the stories of Greg are how we blows up. You have people telling you, you scream. We're scared of you. We're scared of you. And you never think once yourself.

Oh, I may have anger issues. Oh, there's something is going on. That's deeper. Like for sure. Within like one or two sessions.

A therapist would have isolated that. So he's clearly just going to his chat. GPT or going to like a life coach or something. Or like a jack. Like, I don't know.

Jack. He's going to just. I mean, we saw him go to a therapist one time on this show. Do you remember? And he was like, yeah, well, like, I'm a really good liar.

Like, I can lie to anything.

And people always believe.

He's bragging to the therapist. And the therapist faces like this. She's like, what the fuck? She was horrified. Like, I've never seen a therapist actually look horrified on TV before.

That was crazy. Yeah. Well, all right. This season, we saw challenges to both old and new friendships that tested the very fact of your relationships.

So before we go, I want to give you one last afternoon to clear the air. Madison, you're living the dream. New house, new baby. What's next for you?

Not the baby. Okay. Great. And a high girl summer. Okay.

We really don't have to keep saying high girl summer. I'm Bravo. Okay. We can pretty much pick it up in that now, right? No.

Anyone. Right. We go. We're like you. Yeah.

They're asking Rodrigo. Maybe he'll tie the knot next season. Nobody cares. Molly, you, you sing now. And she's like, yeah, maybe I'm going to song right now.

Like, you know, no one really sings to the tuba. And then Andy Sally about Venita and Charlie.

“Like, what does she learned about female friendships?”

And she's like, well, you know, they're what lasts forever. You know, heart-on's go down. But girlfriends are all with their steal your heart on. Yes. And if there's anything that Bravo has proven to us time and time again

is that the most resilient thing are female friendships. So anything you want to say to Craig and Charlie and Charlie is like, No, like at the end of the day, like you get nothing for nothing. And that's all you can say for the life of the poor. Like, I do see Craig as a friend.

I just, I feel like we had a good friendship, you know, before we were all hanging out. And I just like, I don't know, like I wish him the best. Like, yeah. That's it.

Venita seems like you and Craig have made some headway tonight. Yeah, I mean a little in a good way though. I mean, I'm not going to lie and be like, yeah, we're at 100, but I'm positive for things and no better outcome. And hopefully getting invited to the hot tub.

Okay, Austin, do you think that you and Craig made any progress today?

“Well, I think there's been some peace in my life from us.”

But, you know, we kind of operate like in a group chat and like things like that. But, like, you know, we have buffers, you know, and it's been like a bit more peaceful. And I just think that maybe we'll remain that way for a little bit of time. So, you know, I don't know when like, but like for now, I'm just like a cat dad. And it's take care of Piper and Martini.

Yeah. Yeah. So they're both like fuck that guy. His answer was basically like, nope, still I ate him. Alright, Craig, next step's with Austin.

Well, like, we need space. So maybe we can relearn each other. Well, he's not going to therapy, but he is like getting TikTok therapy because he's learned a lot of therapy speak, you know. Yeah. We just need to relearn each other.

I was triggered. Yeah, we need to date again. It's like, okay. Wonder what do you think? Well, you know, Craig is who Craig is and like tigers are not changing their stripes.

Wholes. There's only about choice. Carl, get out of here. Yeah. And we like almost set it on her.

It was close. Yeah. So yeah, we had that tiger that we know. We like that the tiger's working on changing his stripes. And you know, it's just whether or not those people fit in each other's lives.

You know? Alright.

“Chef, will you ever give up on Austin and Craig's friendship?”

And do we think that you're going to have a terribly toxic season next season? Because you kind of are up. It's a harsh, no. Look at me. I'm a nice guy in the middle of the sofa.

Wow. Oh, I could be the bridge and sort of advocate for each other. For the other one. Right. Okay.

I'm going to give the toast for the evening because that's my thing. I knew a girl. She had a tuba. Everybody's lame. So I go to Cuba.

Wow. Basically, Cuba. And cheers everybody. Gosh. Whitney just pops up.

I'm all here. You need all that cupcake that energy just gave you. And that brings us to the end of the Southern Choms. See, zoom everybody. Please don't.

The valley start. Is it next week? Next Wednesday. Yeah. I don't.

Yeah. April. Turn over. Yep. Very exciting.

“Thanks everyone for being here and we will catch you on the next episode of Watch a Crapins, which most likely will be Southern hospitality.”

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