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This is part one of a 2-part recap!The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills are still squabbling over nothing in Italy. Kyle tries to convince everyone that they all think Dorit is losing her mind but Dor...

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Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappins.

I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hello, Ben. Good morning Ronnie. How are you?

Good. Everybody, welcome to this show today.

It's Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Day.

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Ben, what's going on with you today? I'm writing the high of having just indulged in a ham and cheese croissant at the local bakery. I decided to treat myself for a friday. And I'm literally so happy right now. I'm just like that was just the perfect way to start the weekend.

And I'm, that's where I'm at. That's, that's my, my, I'm in croissant fill. You know, that's, but actually, but we're globally. I am actually very happy. I was really enjoyed the TV on Bravo last night. I enjoyed this episode of Beverly Hills.

Very much. Of course, late as a London is fantastic. We'll talk about that later. But I'm a happy little clam. How about you?

Good. I'm happy too. I'm not carb fueled, which sucks. But you know, I'm still happy. Why not?

I'm happy. My mom's can ask to group took me out to happy hour. That was really fun. I'm still a public. I'm going to catch up on all the lady gossip, which I've surely been missing.

It's, you know, it's amazing.

People have been sending me a video of this kid on TikTok. It's a whole group of women sitting around on a couch, listening to something on a phone. And they're like, oh my god, it's like some gossipy thing. And then it pans around the couch. And then there's like a chubby little kid eating ice cream, a little boy, just listening to all of it.

And they're like, is this you? Yes, it is. And it's still me at 50 years old. Just hanging out with my mom and her friends. Like, oh, girl.

Tell me about so-and-so did she really kill her husband?

What do you often? You know. That's a fun time. Well, I love that you had a happy hour with the canasta. The canasta ladies.

I went out board gaming last night. So. That was all. Yeah, you know, it's just, you know, as a weekend approaches, just lean into the fun times. Yeah.

So my cup is very filled with some ladies. So yeah, I think it's good over here. Actually, my cup really is very filled. Because when Robo was good last night. And so, again, ladies of London is just like, it's so tremendous.

It's actually out of control how good ladies of London is. But the perk of Beverly Hills being good last night too. Got to play board games. I also, and I got my croissant. And I also published a new newsletter.

New, uh, uh, and media fancies. So it's, it's a whole about salmon. Oh, nice. The sexiest subject of all salmon. But I, I just, I did a thing where I listed my favorite salmon recipes.

Because basically I made a, I made salmon last week.

And I used a new recipe and it was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so good. That I was like, I've got to give more love to salmon. And then me, so, honey glaze. My was the harissa harissa. I love me some colloo Henry.

Hershey has a new cookbook better at home. Y'all should get it. It's so far so good. But, um, I was like, I got to write about salmon. And so, you know, because, like, sometimes, and the tie into Beverly Hills is that, like, a lot of times when I think about salmon.

I think of this one video I saw. And I have not been able to find it again, but Lisa Vanderpump once did, like, a, like, look at me. Like, look at me cooking at home with Pandora video where Lisa and Pandora both made, like, very sad pieces of salmon together. Which was, like, it was, like, very, perfectly, perfectly fine. It was just, like, two sort of mildly pink pieces of salmon with, like, some sort of, like, white sauce on top and, like, herbs.

And it's probably lovely, but it also felt, like, a very sad boring luncheon. And it's, like, that image of Lisa and Pandi with their salmon, their twin salmon has actually stayed with me so much.

And I think it informs a lot about Lisa and Pandora, but I also think that, like, that's what I, that's, like, I'm like, when I think about salmon, I just think of, like, a sad luncheon.

And I was like, you know what? There's more to life for salmon.

Let's bring salmon back.

Let's make salmon great again. Okay, people, it's a salmon for five.

I don't know how people are still making such boring salmon.

It's like the only fish in the store that looks decent. Have you noticed that? What is all the fish suck in the store? I know. It's like every boat places I live, both in LA and here.

It's, it's like salmon's it. That's it.

You can get other stuff, but it's always kind of gross.

I mean, I don't eat, I, granted, I'm not that adventurous. I'll, like, have sort fish sometimes, but it's just seems to mushier. I don't know, salmon's like the thing. So you can get salmon. It's all their farming.

Salmon is the new it to quote, Dr. Jackie. Um, yeah, we're going to make salmon sexy again. But anyway, so yeah, I wrote about that. So I'm like, feeling very happy. So go check that out.

And I put my mom's grove locks recipe in there, which is really great. So, you know, that's just a really shameless chill for my own newsletter. Which, well, that's chill before we even did our new happiness. They're chilling. Yeah, it's a, it's a, when our crap and chilling stand.

So, you know, we have to chill something. This is what you're crapping. So yeah, go go get a shape of sexy. Get your salmon in a thaw.

Get some spree, salmon on it.

Get out there. It's hot salmon summer, y'all. So I was like, I was like, Ronnie, I'm in a little bit of a rush today, because I'm going to go to Julia Cunningham. So after this, I was like, a little bit on the rush.

It's like, okay, we're going to start early. Okay, let me talk for ten minutes about salmon. Okay, here we are. Season 15, episode 15, 15, 15. Good luck, everybody. Stranded under the Tusk and Sun.

So the salmon left behind in Italy. A sad salmon in an abandoned church left behind by Drete. In ten feet tall heels. So he starts a Florence bird's eye view of the little villa. Man, this vacation is lasting a long time now.

I'm on the episode. Yeah, but this is their last day. The last day on vacation, right? Oh, good. So villa bit.

I mean, honestly, this vacation has gone on so long and has been so

an uneven fold that literally the people of Italy have left.

Like, they did a whole scene in an abandoned town. I mean, it's like the sun of walking dead. I was waiting for like zombies to just suddenly appear and start eating everybody. What the fuck? It was so scary. I clearly must have been a Sunday because Sundays in Europe all the towns just like empty out.

That's like everyone's like, don't go outside on a Sunday. Yeah, or it was like the set of real housewives of Dubai. You know how the whole town would have been. Yeah, so they could shoot. They're like, we will not be on TV.

It's illegal or whatever their situation was. They just wouldn't have come on TV. So everywhere they went was just like two people in this massive empty mall of a place. Yeah, so here we are. We're at Vina Bibiany is the morning. Aren't you happy? It's the morning.

The most exciting fucking the most excited guy in the fucking world. Please just calm down. Okay. House host seriously. You as too much energy. I don't want to wake up to that good morning.

Shut up. Okay. I get it. You're Italian for Christ's sake. Just criticize my tomato sauce and go back to bed.

Leave me alone. So Amanda wakes up and she wakes up in the most Amanda way. She opens the curtains and she's like. It's not dishening to do new song. New opening song for summer house.

So then poolside, booze and Rachel are hanging out on lounge chairs. Rachel's in a full-on caftan and booze is like, well, it's our last day in Tuscany. Let's live it up. She goes, yeah, I'm tanning. Um, you're in a full caftan.

Your big toe is getting a tan though. Oh my god. My big toe is such a nice tan. Yeah, but you don't understand my caftan's getting tanned. Flick a thing. That's right. It's called a caftan.

It's not called a caft pale. Uh, this was white when I came out here. Now it's time. That's so. I'm dead.

Yeah.

I want to, I want a model of Orchias on how you should have.

Okay, it's important as a parent to model for your children. Kyle, then the kitchen where there's like, you know, the cast of down now, be working. You just hear. Do you see? And um, she goes and she's like, I'm high.

I have a caftan about that. I have a bike too, shots. Fuck off, Kyle. I love the kitchen. Like, set my hates, Kyle. Uh, so.

Thick shot a good bike, Kyle. Or even a dirty Kyle. Okay. Meanwhile, up in the Peter Pan bedroom, where Wendy and all the children are sleeping. Amanda and Sutton are in their twin beds.

And they are talking and Amanda's like, I think we're supposed to go. Grape Stopping today. And Sutton's like, yeah, I've got to stop something out. You know, because last dinner was a little less nothing. Like she said, Sutton.

Nice subtle turn into the conversation.

Well, I've got to stop something out. Okay.

Um, so that, when might not we're, aren't you mad about it?

I'm like, well, I mean, my phone fell good. It feels good to be strong and link field true to myself.

Okay. Well, you were talking finally.

So that's good. But listen, I got to say something. It's been sitting on me. Okay. Sort of a confession on myself as well. Okay. Cause yesterday in the car, on the way back from Florence, got out her phone and she did that chat thing.

GPT. Yeah. And she stopped her name into it. She would come up and she read it out loud. And there were snippets. Not great reviews.

I mean, that just felt me spirited to me. It was me. Chat GPT. Oh God, Sutton. Do something, Sutton. This is what you're going to do.

This is what you're going to put it all on. You've had a nothing of a year. And this is what you're going to put all your chips on Isn't Amanda fight. No, you're not the rock horse.

You're throw everyone on to the bus for chat GPT. By the way, how do you not know that everyone, all those things weren't like hallucinating. You know, I'm not talking. Talk about like that chat GPT.

You know, and you know, when like AI gets wrong,

they call it hallucinating. Cause it thinks it, it like will give you an answer. And then you'll be like, does that true? It'll be like, no. But not to bring it back to the salmon situation.

But when I was writing, when I was writing my thing, I, I like made a declarative statement that like salmon is so good. I mean, it even has its own color. Like, what other fish can say that? And then I thought, oh, like, what if there is another fish

that has a color, so I asked, I asked AI. And I was like, um, does, are there any other fish colors? And they're like, well, maybe they're like tuna and hearing. I was like, really, a tuna is a color that, yes, tuna is a color.

Right. I never heard of that.

I go, I never heard of tuna as a color as a shade of color.

And then AI goes, you're right. I think I made that up. I was like, are you a real housewife? You know what? I like the chatGPT that says that.

And Craig uses chatGPT for therapy, but we can't make Craig to say that. So maybe maybe the evolution will get trickled up. So it's just so eager to please. It's like, ah, yeah, tuna is a color.

I told it's a color. Yeah, yeah. You totally have the right instinct. Are you sure? The two does not account.

I'm going to tune a color shirt. That's what you mean though. Salmon is like literally a color. I was like, think it's time for commercial. It's time for a crappiness commercial.

So yeah, Sutton's basically trying to get Amanda to go fight with everybody for looking her up on GPT. ChatGPT. She's like, yeah, we've talked in your name to see would come up and we read it out loud. And there were snippets and not great reviews. And it just that was mean.

And Amanda's like, I mean, they're looking on bad reviews. And they're reading them out loud. And I want to absolutely consider that meme's parent and something. I don't know what I got to be. I don't know what I got to be.

I don't know what I got to be. This is it. You know, I didn't like what I saw. I'll see something say something. It was a emotional girl there.

It was a girl there. It was a girl there. It was something. Why is Sutton crying over this? What is going on with her?

And so then we see a flashback of, you know, Erica and Bose looking up stuff and something like, Don't do that. That's not nice. And so then she tells Amanda,

and then what happened next is, Bose got out her phone. And then we see Bose is reading the reviews about her, which is like, who is Bose must sing John? Bose must sing John.

Start her marketing journey at Spike Lee's agency, and joined Pepsi Cola in 2005, working with superstars like Beyonce, and making tuna a very popular color. Right a second, John.

GPD. It's not true. Probably not. Okay. Brown.

I'm just reading this. I'm just reading this. I just need to make it clear to him. We just read him. Judging P.T. to Sue, the lady who just wants to fit in.

Hey, what is the, um, what is the arch in St. Louis?

It's a spaceship. It's a spaceship.

It took the first monkey to space

and it built the first mile in what to hatchie. Is that true? No. It's just, I just, I get excited sometimes. And I just, I just might have tasted it.

So you, yeah, I just want to fit in. Just for once, I would like someone to say, Hey, Sue. You know, that's Siri or Alexa. Got to get all this fun, you know?

What about Hey, Sue? You know, no one asks me anything. Speaking of, they changed the voice on the Alexa. I'm so, I'm, yes, I'm saying your name. No, I noticed this is their mat.

I'm sorry if we said it or everybody's thing off, but they changed it on her and I have my light set. So if I say, like, code things,

It talks back to me and then does what I say, right?

'Cause I'm single and I have no life.

And so, this is what I do. This is what I do for company.

I program my, my virtual assistant to talk to me.

So I can the middle of the night. I wake up to be. So I say, hey, Sue, I got to pee. And then she says, Jesus Christ, man. You know, like I better go.

Jesus Christ, man. Well, the new one goes, Jesus Christ, man. I started laughing so hard last. That's the, it's so funny with like with Sue. And then, and then the apple version of Sue.

Like every time there's like a software update, they kind of change their inflection. They like evolve their inflections. And it's so funny that how they will randomly show extreme emotion and then just go back to being robot voices.

It's so good.

Because they haven't put it across all of the selections yet.

So yeah, you're right. Some of it'll be like, you know, Jesus Christ, man. And then it'll be like, it needs six o'clock in the morning. You know, it hasn't gotten totally in there yet. Yeah, absolutely so.

Apple Sue or what do we used to call it? Was it Pat or something like that? I better name. We've had a few names for her. But I like, yeah, I like this.

I like this, I like this.

Like Sue is our AI. But um, I tell her, when I'm hot,

it might to turn on the fan, I go, hey Sue, I'm hot. And she normally goes, yeah, you are, you know. But now she goes, yeah, you are. She just got divorced and is like, new Sue. I don't know if they've heard, if they're like listening to your voice,

it's one time I went in and I, I saw and read it or something like that. Recording everything that you say, right? And so you can go in and you can find the recordings of yourself. Like, and there are little snippets where it's catching you, thinking that maybe you're saying something it needs to hear, you know?

And the recordings of me are just crazy walking around my house, talking to my dog. Just the things I say to myself in different housewives. Well, I mean, I'm literally crazy. I didn't know until I listened to all of these recordings.

It's me walking around like, darling, put the past me over your head. Please, I've come to be coming over. You know, stuff like that. They're all in there. So I was like, are they listening to that?

And they're like, oh, some queen moves there. So just make it sassy. Like, yeah, you are girl. Mine does not sass me, but I do find that the apple Sue will, like certain words like, wow, it'll get really excited about, you know,

if I'm like, that's really interesting. Wow. Thanks for telling me. You need to make it do the Padma. Wow.

I knew to have Padma voice. I think actually I got a new laptop and it was like,

it was, you know, you have to set up your Siri voice.

And I don't like that the default voice is not like the classic one. Now it's like a California dude. It's like, hey, what's going on? How can I help you today? I'll like get the fuck out of your bro?

I need a lady. I need a lady who seems like she might be slightly bureaucratic.

Yeah, I did that to the first time they put a man up there because he's like,

make a left. I was like, fuck you. I didn't invite you to my credit to fuck out of here. I only spent out of the patriarchy. I want Sue to be like,

make a left. Really? I thought it was to the right year, right? I don't know where I am. I just was grateful to be tagged to.

I really don't know where we are. I don't read maps. I get turned around so easily. Here we go. All right.

So the clip was both reading her own chatGBT description now, which of course is glowing. And Amanda sucked. And so. It was Sutton's like, well, I mean, both is very impressive.

You know, I mean Pepsi, coa, that is something out sparkly. Wow, wow. But you know, I said, you know, both, we know what you do. And she said, oh, I just want to compare. You know, and so Amanda's like, ah.

I curmouth just opens. And she said, though it works, like she gets busy. And so the producer asks Amanda why she thinks both was trying to compare. And she's like, I think I'm sorry. Digital course doesn't make money.

And I make some millions of dollars. Well, I just want you to know I'm on your side. I'm using you to agitate the other women. Okay, great. Because by your side, I mean, co-sad who was for some reason to decide

and to fight for you because you don't like to read. Okay. It's weak. But you know what? It's all of got.

So. Thank you. Oh, look here. Like I look at what it says. Entrepreneur in mindset coach.

So rise to success. Audience in the 805 countries. Chat GPT is going on and on about how great I am. So did she just like type in bad reviews of Amanda Francis?

Because that would be really shitty.

Sue says I'm amazing, you know?

And are they trying to build it like a scam artist case against me?

I'm like, I don't think I have to build it. I think they just have to go to your website for that. Okay. If you know your dollars for one of your manifestation courses. Yeah.

There's nothing as mean as what they read. I'm seeing Amanda Francis is a self-described money queen. I think that's the shadyest part. A self-described money queen. And personal development coach known for her work around mindset and manifestation.

She's built a large following particularly on Instagram. And runs an online business focused on helping people primarily. Women change their beliefs around money and abundance. So that's not bad. So that was.

It's clawed. Oh, damn it. I just thought I guess I would have to use chatGPT, right? You know, if you're going to make it equal, people get mad when we use that stuff though. But you know what?

Get mad. You know what? I got it. I got it. I'm looking.

Well, you know, I typed in who is Amanda Francis? What was your question? What did you ask? Who is Amanda Francis?

So I, and it says the same thing basically.

Amanda Francis is a self-described money manifestation coach and entrepreneur. Yeah. There is a thing down at the bottom that says controversy criticism. I mean, it's after a lot of other stuff that's like, you know, her niche, her background, media presence, became more widely known in pop culture for real housewives.

Okay, then controversy. Some people question or criticize her business model selling high price to mindset manifestation courses while others say her technique her teachings have helped them. So that's not that bad. Here's a mind of mind dragged me into this.

It says that it has like different like paragraphs and says drama. She's explained a past cult experience on this show and has friction with Zareet, who apparently tried to use cult history as quote unquote dirt against her. She's also feuding with the selling sunset cast after throwing shade at them in an interview. Basically, very much in your wheelhouse as a WWE see person.

She's one of the more pull the rising new housewives this season. I was like, I'm not asking for recommendations, AI and it's not about love. She's, if you're using the wheelhouse for watch or crap.

I don't know she was feuding with selling sunset.

For a divina, she was honoured. She threw divina. Oh, rights and fire. That's right. She was on that show. And it's so, it's a pretty good fight actually. Divina's like, whatever, you were just using me to be on TV. You had already sold that house anyway.

You know? Yeah. You know, it was. So now I looked up the bows and it says hi business. How high profile business exec author and TV personality career.

Why she's famous Netflix Apple Uber Pepsi named her personality and influence in branding. It doesn't say it doesn't have a controversy tab. So I don't know where Amanda found hers.

I think they were both googling like what's the controversy about whatever.

Or like, why does Amanda Francis suck? Let me ask it that. What? Why does Amanda Francis suck? Oh, it says I have to log in or something. Or log in or something. Or just for free.

I am nature of that. I've wasted enough water today. I'm sorry. You're going to have to say $1,500 for one of my courses defined that way. I suck.

Before. So Amanda. So it's funny. This is what it says. It's not really accurate to say she objectively sucks.

But there are some common reasons people criticize Amanda Francis. Why just don't make this totally off? Why? How about this? Why is Amanda Francis the worst? Let's see what it says. Experensive courses with big outcomes.

Heavy emphasis on manifestation, get rich messaging, business model concerns, polarizing personality. A abrasive, overly self-promotional on the flip side. They're more positive. So. Okay.

Claude is trying to be like, is trying to have a key key with me. But I said, why is Amanda Francis the worst? Because, oh, this is very much a season 15 RHO BH thing. Exhibition point. You're watching it.

I take it. I'm like, you have gay guys, too. I love it. You have my life, so like. Hey, girl. Yeah, you are.

Good. At the end, it does this whole thing and at the end it goes.

Are you caught up on the season or just tipping in?

Because there's a whole panoke, your mask apology sublock from both. That is extremely unhinged. That's so good. Okay. This one says, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

I said it. I'm wide as both suck. And it's just to be fair. You know, it says, I wouldn't frame it as she sucks. But like most other visible leaders, both get to mix of praise and criticism. Big personality polarizing style, attention-seeking, overly performative.

High profile roles, short tenure, 10 years. She's worked in major companies like Netflix and Uber.

Critics point that certain companies weren't very long and they question how ...

She's very visible in speaking, blah, blah, blah. Some people in corporate circles argue that this level of visibility can overshadow the less glamorous day-to-day execution work. I mean, I don't know. Another one of them were too bad. I have to say, like, at the cocktail party, I'm the one having, I'm in like the fun conversation in your stock talk talking to like a really boring person.

I'm trying to fly you over to move and talk to my new friend. You are. You're AI is so much more boring than mine. Mine is like gross. It is.

It is. Wow. Mine sucks. Here's like, well, let me girl have a seat. It really is who I said. Tell me about both. Let's just, let's see what little pattern it tries to try to like connect with me about as it like.

It's gonna be like girlfriend.

Oh, no, now it's being boring again. Never mind.

That's not being fine with me. Anyway, I guess the point of this science fair was to prove that there were both Googling like, [laughs] Wise bo's a bitch. And why does it, why is Amanda a fraud?

You know? So she, Amanda reads her version. And she's like, um, thank you because here it is. Entrepreneur mindset coach. Rises success.

Audence in the 185 countries. Chat TVT is going on and odd about how great I am.

So did she just type bad reviews of Amanda Francis?

'Cause that would be shitty. I'm going to be trying to film one of the scam artists guys against me. Here's something. And then she's like, "Cause if they are, where's the scam?" I have very happy.

What do people think they're making a point when they do that? When they clap in your face.

You sound like a child is trying to be taught the alphabet.

Hey, me, me, me, me. Stop it. Stop clapping in my face. Yeah. Well, of course, you have very happy clients because if they're unhappy,

they wouldn't be your client anymore. So, you know, just want to point that out. So you probably have several ex-clans that are like, I just spent $1,500 learning how to manifest in the cup. Me, no more money.

So, sudden, it's like, yeah, of course, you wouldn't have a business. You know, Amanda doesn't have a bad bone in her body. I know we all think she's trying to show off, but when our bedroom door is shut, she is still talking about her business like still.

Like, she really loves her business. Like, a wall. I'm like, "What does that have to do with her having a bad bone in her body?" Amanda's like, "My book was number 19 out of 14 million books when it came out on Amazon.

It's fucking shitty that they want to play this game with me. Like, this is my livelihood. This is how I support my children. They know I'm the breadwinner. I'm like, "Yes, what? This is their livelihood.

It's shooting on other people in their cast. Get with it." That's true.

But I love them. She always pulls it around to a victim thing like,

"This is my livelihood. The loyal boy, my children. You know I'm married to a poor person. I'm married to a poor person." I'm like, "Lucy, get the breadwinner."

I'm like, "Lucy, get the breadwinner." Yeah. Yeah. I'm shocked. That's a cucumber chip winner.

I am shocked that Bose is acting like she wants to make progress with me, but I don't think that's true.

I think she's just speculating behind my back.

And it's mean spirited. It's hurtful. And it's got to end. Okay. Well, I'll put this shoe down there. Yeah.

I think it is mean. I think that other ladies are being mean to a man. I have to say it. Like I watch it and I'm like, "This isn't very becoming." Like really what has a man to done to you guys.

She's done nothing. No matter, really has not done anything. She's annoying. I mean, I give her that. I think she's annoying as fuck as well.

But I mean, to prove it, Sutton is trying to be on a man beside. She's like, "I'm going to sleep in a man's room. I'm going to become friends with her. I'm going to get her against Doree."

Just like Kyle wants. This is going to go great. And even Sutton can't make it through one scene without being like, "Well, she doesn't have bed bone in her body. God, she's annoying.

She won't shut up about her business." Sutton can't even do it. She can't even fake. So yes, she's annoying. But she hasn't done anything to these people.

And they're really mean. You know?

And I think that if somebody was Googling bows as stuff,

she would be not happy about it. I know if they were Googling Doree shit or anybody else's shit. But they'd be like, "How dare you? I'm supporting me, children." Yeah, I mean, I agree that none of them would really,

like hold up with a nice Google search. I mean, Erica, hello. But that being said, I can, yeah, yeah, they're being mean. I'm not going to deny that they're being mean. But I am going to push back slightly.

You have this person coming on who is being super annoying and super braggy, and it's like, okay fine. And they put it up with it for a while. But it does kind of feel like she's a con artist.

It's kind of like, you're going to come on to our show

and promote this kind of like, but feels kind of like a fire festival situation. And like, we have to co-sign it and be like, I don't think people want to be part of that. And it's like, something is fishy going on with this girl.

And like, and I don't want to be complicit with it. So I, I kind of get, I get the, I get the looking up stuff. I get that. I think where it's like, it sort of falls apart is where it was the same energy with all the other fishness that is sort of lurking.

I mean, to read, I've never had one business.

It's made any sense. You know, what about Kyle's businesses that have all been disasters and her shows that have been on for one episode or one season or whatever. So they could do this with everybody.

I think I just prefer the style of someone like Rachel. Who's just like quietly disgusted and makes little comments here and there. I think that that's hilarious. And I don't think she's being mean.

You know, I don't think, you know, like the sitting around. It's just hard to root for people when they're like, obviously I like housewives. So I'm not a versus to people being mean. It's just the way they're doing it is just, I don't like it.

I don't like it. It runs me the wrong way. Now that said, then it comes to Amanda. And she, her defense of herself is so annoying that I'm back on the other side and like five.

I'm back on the other side again. But it's not, it's kind of her reaction to things. You know, we've talked about this before. Like it's your reaction to things on these shows. People can be mean whatever is how you react that makes you a good

housewife or a bad housewife. If you're really funny and you're really bitchy back or you get them back in some way, that means you're a good housewife. If you win and cry and then start telling me your stats of your website, I'm just, I can't be on your side either.

Yeah, exactly. I really thought Amanda was going to be someone who came in this season and just like called people on the ship. Like these people are idiots and they're a clicky and blah, blah, blah, blah. I make money.

Yeah, like, yeah, I do come people.

But that's what I, that's the American dream.

I figured it out. And like, if people want to give me money, then so fine. I'm, like, I thought she would just be a little bit more, um, bad ass batch, boss batch. But she's actually kind of just like this annoying that.

And I get, I do appreciate that she annoys everyone. That her nattiness does, like, you know, like it does do the nat thing. But, um, yeah, but it's just, but she also annoys me as well. Yeah. So it's like I have a hard time like being full, like really on her side.

Like, I kind of get why the women are exasperated by her because she's just so annoying all the time. Yeah. They just need better fodder, I think than this. 'Cause it's old.

And it's, it's episode 15. Like, move it along, you know. And I agree with you. I thought she was going to be better because in that monologue that they showed when she was like, oh, really?

Well, they're, they're mad at me because like, they don't have a life in it. And then, and then she just said that whole big long things so funny. So funny. That was really funny. And they were showing that in the previews.

And so I was thinking, oh, this is who we're going to get. But then we didn't, you know, we didn't get that. We, I guess we should have manifested harder. If only we'd be taking some courses. So now Amanda's like, how am I supposed to go?

Wines, Tom, great being with booze. Like, how is that? How am I supposed to say anything? Well, I don't know.

Maybe you should talk, you know, from a good place.

Like, okay, what way to set that up? Uh, sudden. Then downstairs, Erica is walking around the dining room and Kyle sees her, and she's like, oh my god. I'm ordering my second coffee.

It's like, I'm pretending like I'm shopping. I'm shopping for coffee. I could shop anywhere, even in the kitchen. I'd be the coffee. I went to bed at like five in the morning.

I never do that anymore. I never do that anymore.

Well, I never read the bit of the night,

but I was scratching like, a little bit of a glare. And Kathy comes in and she's dressed to go and they're like, where are you going? She's like, I just need to go shop for an hour and look around. Please, leave me alone.

I can't take off. She's like, please, I want a fan. She's like, I'm just going to find a decent fan. Well, I can't believe, like last night, you know? Oh, yeah, you called Natalie a liar.

Yeah, well, I mean, if the shoe fits, then I'm gonna buy it. I love to shop. And then we see Natalie sit down at the pool and we go back to Kyle.

And, um, you know, Kyle is talking about how, like,

the truth is I have, like, Natalie all along,

but if Amanda and the cameras had not been there yesterday, it would have been my word against hers and who knows what people would think. No, sorry, I don't play that game. I don't, sorry.

I don't.

Well, first of all, I also,

it often is your word against someone else's. But second of all, I'm not really tracking this situation with a lie. Again, like, Natalie said, when Amanda said, I heard bows say my name

Now this is like, yeah.

Yep, I think bows said it as a joke. And then when they sky us, I'm how confronted, um, Natalie at the dinner last night. And Natalie walked something back, but what did Natalie actually walk back?

I just, it was so small. I didn't understand why it became such a big thing. Because Kyle was saying, you heard the thing that, you heard the thing that Bow said about Natalie,

right, or about, uh, God damn it, we're, we're getting old.

You heard the thing that Natalie said about her, right?

Yeah, but first she said yes, but it was a joke.

Then they get to the dinner and Amanda's like, well, Natalie heard it. And now it's like, no, I'm just like, yes, you did, you said you did. She goes, no, I didn't.

I'm just like, yes, you did. You said you heard what she said. Why are you saying? It's like, no, don't drag me into this. You've been doing it all year and I'm not having it.

I'm just like, no, but you're a liar. And Natalie actually apologized on Instagram this week. It was too boring to remember the whole thing. It was too boring to even screenshot. And then my phone just erased it.

It was like, ah, but it was something like, yeah, I have to take ownership. That was bullshit. I said it just owned it or something like that. So she even admits to it.

I don't know what Natalie was doing. I think Natalie was just like, I'm not jumping on Kyle's side. It's just like, I don't think that Natalie likes Kyle either, by the way. I don't think she's people like Kyle. And this episode is why it's my favorite of the season,

because finally Kyle is they're starting to turn and see what Kyle is doing.

She's so ham-handed. So when she says, oh, really? Well, the cameras catch it. You don't think the cameras are going to catch it. I don't play that game.

Really? Because you're trying to play that game, this whole episode, and tell everybody what they've said and what they're thinking. And the cameras all have it that they're not saying, we're thinking what you're saying they're thinking.

So it's kind of fun to watch Kyle get caught in her own ointment. But also it's like, okay. So Natalie, Natalie walks back. That she overheard it for whatever reason. You know, it's, I don't know why she really did it.

It doesn't really make sense. But now Kyle is like, she is a liar. I, like, she's lying. And that's why I called her a liar. I guess she did lie, but also like,

it's like the, the lie is about the backup. Like you work, you, you want it. You were calling upon Natalie to back up the story that, um, that, that bows made this joke. I don't know, like, it's, it's not like Natalie's lie.

Was it the center of a major controversy? And it wasn't like the crux of a controversy. It's like you're, like, writing with an extra. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's like, it's like, you were calling on Natalie to back you up to, so that way people could be mad at bows. And Natalie was like, yeah, I don't want to be part of this, essentially. And so she just takes herself out of it. And Kyle is, yeah, if I were Kyle, I would be annoyed for sure.

But Kyle is acting like this was, you know, some sort of epic case that she's worked on for nine years

and they finally get to the courthouse

and it's the star witness and the star witness just like backs out of the testimony. Like, this was like, I don't want to stand up for Natalie because Natalie's kind of a non entity. Like, I don't hate her.

I don't like her. She's just, you know, like, oatmeal without anything in it. She's just an entity for like, yeah. But I don't want to stand up for, but just to point out what a hypocrite fucking Kyle is.

She's like, liar, liar, she lied, so she's liar. This is not a really kind of. Well, how is your breakup with Morgan going with that house that you just bought Nashville and the comments on her Instagram

and that you guys being spotted together all of it?

I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. You do nothing but lie. Your whole tenure here is a lie. So your whole season is a lie with your sad sack of breakup. Get the fuck out of here, Kyle.

So Kathy's like, well, are you sure of that? Because liar is a very strong word. It's very, very strong. She's like, Kathy, I'm your sister. And I'm telling you, she told me something

and the math might she changed her word. So do you believe me? Or are you gonna believe the person you just met? She's like, oh, whoa, okay. I go so go with you.

Okay. Why is Kyle so invested in this Amanda situation? Dude, this is Amanda's fight to have. Amanda's fight is to say, I heard, like, Bose, you, like, Natalie said, like,

who is the, like, who would be the Pinocular group? And Bose, you said Amanda. Why is Kyle getting into a tizzy? And calling upon Natalie to be a character witness in this moment? Like, why is that?

Because I think it's because Kyle is trying to do what she always does,

which is rally the troops, get them to go. Gives to she wants and get rid of them. In this case, it's Dury. She really is like sick of Dury. And she wants to get rid of Dury.

So she's getting people to go against her. She got Amanda to go against her. And no one will back her up. And there Amanda's a huge fail. And Kyle's like losing her grip.

She's losing her grip. Nobody cares what Kyle's trying to do. Nobody cares about Amanda. They're like, I'm not going to be friends with Amanda just to get rid of Dury. We like Dury.

Everyone else likes Dury. And Kyle's losing it. She's losing her grip.

I think she's starting to freak out.

Because this episode, she is freaking out. She really is. Although, are they enough? This is like my favorite Kyle episode of The Season 2. Because it's real Kyle.

Like, I love it when Kyle goes off on someone. She's like, she flips her mind at the end of the episode. And that was like season one Kyle as is every single year. That's my favorite version of Kyle where she is like a flawed hero. She's like trying to do.

She's like, she's like, she tries to be relatable. But she just like, she, she bubbles with rage. And that was like my favorite version. And it's more when she's like, well, I feel bad. Whatever.

And then she's like manipulating people. And then accusing people of not being honest when she herself is not being honest. Like, that's the worst version of Kyle. But Kyle just like calling someone out on their shit and getting really angry about it. Even if I'm not on her side because I'm not on her side.

I still like that version of Kyle a whole lot more.

So, and this was probably the least of this track that works, you know?

Well, it's like a good first track. Yeah. Instead of like one of those districts that doesn't stop up any water. You're like, why don't I buy this dish rag? So Kyle's like, can I say something else?

Huh. I'm like, you're the only one who has been saying something else? Doree came in late and then she just left. Conrad Hilton couldn't deal with Jaja Gabor anymore. It was too much.

And you could see it both like, okay. Let's humor. Kathy and pretend like we care about this. Oh, she was always late. Is that what it was?

Is that what it was? Is that what it was? Like they've been sitting here pondering what happened between Jaja and Conrad. Oh. Is that what it was?

Oh, the thought we thought it was something else. Maybe it was three days. Oh. Yeah. She was just constantly getting right in.

He couldn't take it anymore. It just left. Oh, well. She was a lot of a Jesus Christ. Jaja.

Am I right? Yeah. You know, I really like Jaja until she slept at police officer. And I said, you. No.

I go through that night.

How old was Jaja Gabor when she slept at police officer?

23 years old. Are you sure about that, Sue? No, I made that up. I got nervous. My name is me.

I told to read. You're going to be excited. All right. I just want you to be here. I'm going to talk to the conversation.

I don't want you to be late. The conversation is fascinating. We're talking about how matters truthful and everybody else sucks. Come on, do we? And even when she's here, she's texting all the time.

And we see footage of Dury texting. Cause like Dury has been acting so weird lately.

She's either late or always on her phone.

And I'm worried about her. And I want to help her get to the bottom of this. And yeah, by the way, 100% like a friend is going through a divorce. It's rough. They start showing up late.

They're more distracted. They're on their phone. 100% like I think we've been there with people who've gone through things. And you see that. And of course, you're alarmed.

But just again, it's hard to hear from Kyle because

what Kyle, how Kyle changed and she changed so significantly during her situation in Mauricio. And then all of a sudden Morgan Wade. And the fact that like no one was allowed to discuss it. And like how dare you ask me about this.

And now she's like, now she wants to go on like a spiritual witch hunt with Dury. It's like no. No, Kyle. Just you're just not the right messenger for this.

And another point to just add on to that is that Dury has always been late.

And Dury has always only been on her phone.

That has been the complaint about Dury for 10 fucking years. This is that Dury does laid everywhere. And all she does, like she was literally late to do that Instagram thing, where she was leaning up against the window, taking pictures of herself in glam.

You know, that's always been the fight against Dury. It's not she's not insane for being late. She's a rude asshole for being late. Yeah. Dury does a complete incons--

completely inconsiderate rude asshole over human being. And if this fight was about Dury being rude, and late all the time and making everyone wait, then yeah, I would be 100% behind it. But it's not.

It's Kyle trying to make it sound like that's some new thing. And that that points to psychosis. And she's clearly on pk side behind the scenes. And she's trying to build a case against Dury because she's fighting with Dury in a divorce. And it's just gross.

It's not good. It's not good girl code to be doing that. And it's just fucking gross behavior by Kyle. And so I can't get behind any of it. Even though she's completely right, the Duryt is an asshole by being late all the time.

But she's not right about it pointing to some kind of psychosis.

Like Duryt has always spent money she doesn't have.

She's always been late. And she's always been self-obsessed and on her phone. And you were fine with all of that when you were using her as a weapon. But now that she's your enemy, you're going to point to it like she needs to be locked up and given a lobotomy.

Shut up, Kyle. Yeah. So now it's time for our activities for the day. The women are going to be, so I'm going to go to be in a bike group. And go grape stomping.

And then Jerika and Kyle and Duryt will be eventually going to an empty ghost town in Italy.

They're all these bikes that are laid out.

And both like, who wants to ride bikes? And everyone's like, no. Amanda says yes, but she's like, not a chance in hell. Like I just turned this calf town. Like I'm not going to get a dirty. No, thank you.

The only kind of bike I would ride is an e-bike just to impress Kai Kai. But I'm not going to do it because I won't let the guys guys drive on. So now I'm not going to tell that. So some of them do that. Meanwhile Jennifer is in the pool naked.

And she's like, oh, I'm-- I know she's talking about how she went to the pool to do her photoshoot. Make it under the water.

And she's just like, oh, this is me taking a third step

out in a pool, pool water, something else. Just yapping her head off to the photographer. And she's like, Jesus. And there's like one shot where she's like, she's just in there. She has, first she has both her heart.

Well, she has her hands around her movies. And then she's like, under the water, sort of like covering, but then she's taking her one hand. And she's just slapping the water. She was having the best time.

Another bird's being killed. Bird's being a shot. So then we go back to Villa. Be beyond me. Well, Kyle and Eric are still waiting for her to read.

And Kyle's like, oh my god, do we-- do we ask her around much longer?

I mean, this is crazy. Maybe she should just meet us there. I mean, oh my god, should we-- should we have a white van show up? Let me say this.

Well, I mean, we pretty much just said this,

but let me say it some only emphasize something. Like, it really is rude and annoying. I have to wait for someone for like a very long time. You know, like a very long time, which is what happens with the read. It's honestly 10 times worse when you're on vacation,

because there's that sense of urgency like we don't have much time. We want to maximize, we want to see things. And like, if you're just like sitting around your like old villa, waiting, and especially when other people have already left and started adventures for the day, and you're just sitting there,

waiting, and waiting, and waiting. Honestly, I would be seeing red. That's for sure. Yeah, that's rude. So, to rate, of course, is not even ready yet.

We've got to treat, she's in her bathroom. Like, "We're in the past, since!" So, she's like, "Koil has been talking shit to everyone in the group. "Bah, I'm back.

I'm about how I'm a Retic. Do you really think I want to go?" Steking, and grab a little goo? Not really. But maybe this is Koil, trying to extend it all the brown show.

And maybe she wants to apologise. Hmm, maybe, gee.

Gee, do I really want to get gelato with these women?

I don't think so. So, Koil's like, "I'm not going to lie. I'm getting like really antsy." Yeah, I have about a left, blah, blah, blah. So, then we see Amanda Bose and Natalie

riding along to the winery. Amanda's like, "This is so fun. It's like so pretty." And Natalie's like, "So, I'm just going to regret not doing this. She would have crushed it.

What was that, Natalie? I didn't say anything. What are you talking about?" Sexy. So, in the car, setting is talking to Rachel and Jennifer.

And Rachel's like, "Yeah, I thought you were right. But honestly, I was like so quiet after last night. There was like so much happening. I just felt like a spectator. I felt like a spectator.

I was like vulnerable. I was so vulnerable and I was like, "Yeah, it was like a thieving circus. I thought, like, had, like, sort of seats to Nascar." And then the bikers arrive at the vineyard and Bose's sweaty. And she's like, "In the movies, you see people

riding bikes in Europe to open fields and it's glamorous. But in real life, it's not that at all. And it's too sweaty. And also Amanda Francis's with you. That's just not the same as a live Tyler."

So, then we get to go to the wine stomping. I'm bored. I hate to shit. So, then we go to the wine stomping, Jennifer. It's like, "This, I'm excited to stop grapes.

But, you know, maybe I'll put this on my special skills on my resume." (laughs) And the step I was there and he's like, "We are going to stop grapes!" I was like, "Oh my God, do you even hear?"

Rich was like, "I don't stop grapes." I drink grapes. I don't like squishy things or feet. Like, and it involves like, if it involves taking my heels, I'm like already uncomfortable with that.

Like, Zand would never.

Like, could you imagine going all the time on talk?

And like Zand says, "Let's go grapes stomping."

Like, it would never happen.

Like, it's disgusting. (laughs) So, they have to do it basically. And they're like, "Oh my God, it's slimy." If squishy, it's wet.

So, then, Sutton and Boes are talking. Or, well, they're kind of gathering in a circle all the ladies. And they're comparing notes. Like, "How's the bike?" "Why? How's the great stop?"

So, Sutton's like, "Well, we're an interesting car ride. We talked about last night." Now, it was like, "I felt like last night was playing tennis against someone more skilled than me."

(laughs)

You play tennis? What? Why were you talking about tennis?

I never talked about tennis.

(laughs) You just said you played tennis. Don't do this to me. You've been doing it all year. (laughs)

I'm just confused why if Amanda believes I confirmed that I heard the mass comment, why am I being called a liar? So, that's the thing, by the way.

I think you remember in the episode that Natalie did confirm something.

I don't even know. I don't know. I don't even care. So, Sutton goes, "Well, you didn't seem to have a secure answer about the mass thing with Amanda. It was funny." But, like, I didn't know how that was considered a joke, really. And then, Natalie, you were called a liar.

But, I found it interesting that Boes wasn't called a liar. Isn't that so interesting, Boes? Like, Amanda called me a liar? Yeah. But, like, she has, like, more of a reputation in the group. So, no one's just going to jump in and say Boes is a liar, right?

Well, Boes has a commanding presence. So, it's easy for people just to fall in line. But, that doesn't mean we should just ignore, we should just ignore questioning things that people do. You still have a question. You still have a question.

You still have to question them. If not, that can be a very dangerous type of relationship. And if you're not going to question them, what you do is you set up a younger, more vulnerable person to ask the questions for you. That's what you really do.

Because one thing set in love is being questioned. I like that sentence. Yeah. But, it's going to be questioned. Oh, really?

How's your story doing? Ah, very you. Uh, so back to the vineyard, Amanda is like, "So, do not think you set it, Boes? They're about the mask?"

And she's like, "No, I do not believe I set it." And my point is that in the best interest of friendship, if you have something to say, you stand up business and you say it, which I'm not doing, because I refuse to say to like, "I'll do Pinocchio."

I stand on the multi-million dollar business, though, when I say things,

I do think that we have a bigger thing to talk about. Like, why are we huge?

Why would people trying to find out things about me on chat, G-B-T?

Oh, because our question was, "Who is Amanda Francis?" Oh, and chat people. Why? Why? But why did you do that?

The question is like, "Why are you trying to find things out?" Because we asked who's Amanda Francis? It's like, "I'm going to put it down here." Actually, yeah. Well, you said that you're the money queen and then a bunch of criticism about you.

Okay, but like, I don't know what you want to know about my business, but according to the stats, just the general stats that are around according to stats in general, like-- By the way, I just want to remind me while I'm doing this,

Mom, not to forget to clap. Okay, but according to the stats, 80% of people who buy one of my courses by a second course. Because it's part of a three course pack. And I have less than a 3% refund rate on my courses,

which is unheard of in my industry. And that is a very, very low amount of people wanting a refund and digital press, oh my god. Oh my god. You're just so boring.

Nobody cares. This isn't the point. So my gosh. So everybody-- We're looking at certain Amanda's faces,

and something's just like, "Oh my god. I'm really sticking up for this person." And Rachel's like, "Um, why do we have to do this in the vineyard?" Like, it feels like the wrong vibe. Like, my toes are just like--

My toes are a different color now. Like, this is disgusting. Why are we doing this here? Dad. This is Rachel's speak for "Shut the fuck up."

Yeah. What? It feels like they're wrong vibe. Um, yeah, okay.

Here's the thing, Amanda.

You are defending your business versus telling us what you actually do. But like, who wouldn't be defensive about their livelihood and how they came to like, how they support themselves?

And if like, how they came up in the world was in question?

Like who would he question somebody? Just like trying to help Lady Hot Straight men who don't understand jobs. Yeah. Well, you can counter it by actually saying what's at the heart of it. When you jump right to the fence, obviously people are going to want to come back with an attack.

The root of Amanda's defensiveness is her insecurity, because if she actually felt secure in her business and her life, then whenever those things are criticized, she'll be able to defend it without getting in the flustered or angry. Kill me.

So, Amanda. I mean, the thing is, I don't understand. I understand why Amanda's annoyed obviously, but I don't really understand Boz's point here. She's like, well, we don't understand what your business is,

but we don't know what it is. Who cares? Like what is anyone care? I wish they would just say, Amanda, you're annoying and all you do is talk about your business and you come off as insecure.

Instead of saying all of these roundabout ways, and Boz is so derous. Not even doing that. Yeah. They're not even doing it in the roundabout way.

They're trying to add, this is what we said last week. They're actually trying to add a lofty,

You know, I don't know the right words to say for it.

But like they're trying to make it seem actually more than it is,

but like we want to know about you. We want to know the heart of the business. No, you are annoyed and you looked it up because you're like, what you just said, Ronnie, you're fucking annoying, and we looked up your shit because we found you really annoying.

Just to say that, you know, we think you're annoying. Sorry. I mean, you can't really say that, but this roundabout way of like, but we really want to understand you don't want to understand her business to stop and Boz is so direct and like her personality.

So like here, I'm no nonsense, but this is all nonsense. And so it's hard to get behind her, too. So she's like, so Amanda's like, you know, I'm like, you know, look, you're so up yourself yesterday and you know, why did you look yourself up and say like,

this is why I'm great. Let's compare me to Amanda. And just, well, because we were already looking you up.

So I said, you know, is this the person who thinks I'm talking about her?

Why would I talk about her if I could talk about me?

But you were talking about her. You were literally looking her up in the back of the car. Like, I mean, I think that the reason why Boz, which herself up was like, see, like, this is bad that if you ask who is Amanda Francis and all this criticism comes up

because if you look, if you just type in my name, no criticism comes up, right? She and she should've just said that. So Amanda's like, oh, now we have Amanda, like, talking to us. And she's like, okay, well, reviews of Bozima St. John,

skepticism about her short 10 years. Rand over substance skepticism. Stop. Wait, this is exactly what she says about me. Stop.

Okay, wait, here we go. Stop. Oh, stop. Stop. Stop.

You guys, you guys are, courses are inspirational,

but they lack tactical depth, high-efficient, high-energy affirming, conscious confidence forward, but no concrete advice for people who need step-by-step execution and transformation. Stop.

That's like what she says about me. But the internet's saying it about her. And that's why she's doing this to me. Well, Amanda, who told you that everyone was talking about you in the car yesterday?

I know, I didn't mean it. And Boz just looks at certain, and she's like, okay,

Sutton, what was your intention by telling Amanda that?

And she's like, oh, me, Sutton, feeling things. It's a Sutton brand class. Listen, when I was introduced to this group, it was six years ago. And I just opened my store, which by the way is gone now.

That's not there here nor there. And everyone supported me, and I just wanted her to feel like she hit. That's like, support. That did. Trying to support her business.

And I mean, why is Sutton alright? You make no sense either. You liar to say because you're trying to fight for a child because you want to be a child's friend because you have nobody left. So then Boz is like, my point is this.

I also have seminar, so I also know how to Boz shit. Bring the wall down. Let us see you. That way we can mock you on a deeper level. And Mr. Gorbatoff, bring this wall down.

I'm like, well, I mean, I have no remarkable conversations. But it's so hard for me. Check, you can simply say your origin story. Why you started your business? Why you do what you do?

That's what we want to know. The real story by Amanda, put your name again? Smith. Amanda Smith. What?

I would love to do that. And by the way, summer in here, they show flashbacks. Of the fact that like they did go to Amanda's house. And she did try to have them journal. And they all like made fun of her in that process.

And like that was, I mean, you know, they do so many stupid things on this show. So many stupid activities between like having goats walk on their backs. We're injecting, you know, rubber into their forehead or like doing some sort. Like they're constantly doing crazy things.

So like this was nothing out of the ordinary for them to see. If they've done a sound bath, they can do some journaling. So like they were pretty disrespectful about this event. I mean, also they were probably raging with jealousy that they were not in the Hamptons. That they were sitting there journaling.

But still, they did have a chance to kind of step into Amanda's world. And they, they kind of mocked her. Yeah, both as argument here, it just doesn't make any sense, you know, none of it. None of it's really making any sense. I don't think she's making any good points.

It's just that Amanda's more annoying. So I'm still on the other side. I can't help it, you know. But I see that I see that I see the floundering.

And yeah, I think that's kind of a major problem in this show right now.

Like what do we do? And it's seasoned. It's episode 15. What are we doing? So we're people say, I mean, like, I'm sorry.

What? Like I walk into rooms every day where people don't know me. Like, what? Who? Like I may literally can be standing at a tree and no one will see me.

You know, because they're all like crying.

I'm like, oh my god, who are they crying for?

And I look at the gravestone and it says Rachel's out. And you know why? Because I'm dead. I'm like dead because people don't like know who I am. They see me and they're like, oh, look, there's like some vintage deer.

Oh, look, vintage galliano. But they don't see me. And that's like, I'm dead. Oh my god.

Why is that chubby bald gay singing wind beneath my wings?

All right, because it's my funeral. And I'm dead. (laughs) So yeah, because Amanda's saying like, guys, you know, hard is like, you'd like no one knows me.

So then, uh, Bose is like, Amanda thinks she's the Beyonce of business. We don't know you.

I've never heard of you in my life.

Uh, so take down that wall, Mr. Gorbachev. And let me see you. That would be fantastic. Please stop calling me Gorbachev. I don't even know who that is.

Please don't call me Mr. Gorbachev in my own family. (laughs) All right, Reisa. I don't know who that is either. (clears throat)

So Amanda's like, I've tried to explain myself to these people. What do they want? Like, they just shut me down every single time. Which is true. And, you know, Amanda, as someone who's not your friend,

but also doesn't make you. They're doing it because you're really annoying. And you don't shut up about your money and your business. Okay, that's why. So, that's a very easy thing to take forward into the future.

You're welcome. And so Amanda's like, well, I just want you guys to understand me and my business. Like, you have not all the time. Just talk about yourself. Talk about your babies.

Don't talk about your business so much.

Because all of us have business, well, not many more.

Mine's closed. I had a business once. And I'm gonna cry about it. I love the sudden telling Amanda not to talk about her business. This is just somehow managed to turn her business into a sob story for herself two seconds earlier.

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