#3285 Married To Medicine S12E16 Part One: Take Your Menicine

Hello and welcome to Watch What Corrapins. I'm Moroni, that's been Hello Ben, how you doing? I am great, thank you, how are you doing? Good, how do my weekends? I've played some sackboy with my nieces, went to dinner with my family.

“Some big family time over here in Texas, what'd you do?”

I played a bunch of board games and I cooked some food. And I went, I spent yesterday traveling around.

He's Hollywood going to a million different supermarkets.

And I was just like, I got caught up in it. I was like, well, I'm so close to the Armenian market. I'm also poppin' there. Well, I'm so close to the time market. Now I'm as well go there.

Well, I'm so close to the Indian market. I'm as well go there. I spent all this so much time just getting random ingredients. And I had the best time. So, I'm going to be so happy to stop any.

So, what do you do when you go to that many stores? You just have a ton of food now that couldn't go to waste in your house? It's just like random condiments and things like that. Like, there was this, I was thinking about making a tie thing. And I was like, oh, but I don't have that.

I'm out of fish sauce. I was like, well, now I can get my fish sauce. I'm going to see about making an Indian thing. And I was like, oh, but I don't have mustard oil.

Like, oh, but now I can get mustard oil.

“Oh, I was thinking about making this sweet potato thing.”

But it involves like a Turkish tomato paste. That's like, oh, but now I can get it. So, you know, just a lot of condiments. And a jar. That's just my time.

A lot of jars. During weekend, it was a jar and weekend for you. So, that's good. Well, everybody, if this is married to medicine day, if you want these videos on, if you want these recaps on video,

or you want bonus episodes, or you want ad free listening, or you want discord server, or you want a free newsletter, go over to patreon.com/watchwatchcrapins. Yeah, it's married to medicine day. There has been some stuff going on in the Bravo world.

We should probably discuss because it went crazy over the weekend. And that is the rumors that Amanda and West from Summer House are hooking up. You've heard this, obviously. This has been going on for a while, eh?

Yeah. Of sure have. When we were at South by Southwest, the rumor was going around a lot. And I only mentioned that because we were at a lot of parties

where people were talking about it. And someone in our little circle, who I want to say our name, because she probably won't appreciate that. But she said these rumors are confirmed. I know for a fact that West and Amanda are hooking up.

I'm not saying anything because you know,

old quinted abar at news isn't always true.

And I just didn't believe it. I just didn't believe it. And I was like, I'm not going to play into this. It's probably joke. Amanda has been known to, you know,

lead us on in social media, and not tell us the truth until she's ready, which is her right. But I just don't believe anything these people say. But apparently it's looking more and more true.

And the world has gone crazy. The world has been lit on fire. Amanda is being chased down streets and pushed down subway steps. I would imagine.

But yeah, the rumors that they're hooking up. And this started again last week when Amanda and CRO were supposed to do an Amazon live together and didn't. And everyone was like, what?

If you don't show up to your Amazon live together, that means you hate each other, which it would in our case. I mean, if you decided to do a separate Amazon live for me,

I'd be pissed.

“I think that would definitely be really awkward”

for all of our listeners. If we like appear in separate Amazon lives. By the way, we're on Amazon live today. Yeah. And then there was all this stuff.

The internet sleuth starts sleuthing. It's like West has the same sweatshirt as Amanda. Is it where is it? Did Amanda take West sweatshirt? What happened?

I mean, it's not that bad. And his hat, and Amanda dab something off of his cheek. What's going on with that? And then the big thing that really made things go nuts is that Lindsey Hubbard out of nowhere posted a screenshot

of herself over the weekend. Going like this. And it was like, what? Why would Lindsey just post that? And then it was like, then she posted picture of her

with Sierra hugging Sierra tightly. And then there was a story with like Austin. And he posted something about like your friends with X. It's a plate of pasta. It's like plates of pasta.

They're having dinner. And it just apparently pasta and fucking your exes. Fucking your best friend exes are back in. Wow. And now it lives kept moving on the post.

Yeah. Now there's also some extra an extra wrinkle there

doing something. So I don't know.

But now everyone is thinks that this is all code.

And then Kyle, I mean, Carl posted a screenshot of himself. Be like, oh, so now Carl. Yeah. That's a famous picture. That's a famous screenshot of Carl.

Where he's just looking confused.

“It's just, they posted on every summer house, right?”

It's just Carl like, oh, so he posted that. They're like, come on. Carl confirmed it. And then they posted a KJ posted a picture of him looking like confused. Oh my god.

KJ. KJ to the two. And then he was posted. Someone else posted a picture of them looking confused. Two judging girls posted.

Wow. Everybody's so worried about Sarah's feelings in this. But no one has said, gee, how is Kyle going to feel? And then Kyle posted under like a crying face. Am I good?

Yeah, that's right. He also posted something in support of Amanda. Where he was like watching the episode. And I guess it's just like, terrible. I know I should be doing that way.

But I think that was neither here nor there. So I know that was just a clean up after his own bad behavior on that episode. There's a suspicion that the cast is just trolling the audience.

“But I will say, you know, let's never forget.”

Lindsey has never truly liked Amanda.

That's people, you know, sloppy. A lot of people don't go all the way back with summer house, but we remember season two. Was it season two? Where Lindsey excised Amanda from a photo, a group photo. And Kyle wrote a 19-page manifesto in response. Was that season three or season two either way?

Two or three hours. It was an early season, but like Lindsey cut Amanda out of the group photo. So they, by all accounts, they seem fine, but Lindsey sort of like embracing Sierra on her, on her IG story. When all this stuff is going on, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't think it's a joke at this point because people really probably are pushing Amanda down subway stairs, or like throwing cans at her head. You know, like people, the bravo audience, if they hate you, especially for something like this. I mean, they're not going to be called. I wouldn't, I wouldn't post this as a joke.

And other, especially if you're like prone to depression, because this is not ever going to make you feel that. I don't think Amanda would agree to joke around about this, but I don't know because she is. They're all doing a lot of, you know, influencing and stuff like that right now. And it'll be like a post comes out and then Samantha doing an influencing post for buffalo wild bills. Or what does that called buffalo bills?

The wildlings, we totally believe that Amanda is eating at the buffalo wildlings. I suppose to believe that. So she's doing that. And so people are like, well, maybe they're just doing it for the money, but I don't know.

“Is it difficult to say that it doesn't, I don't really care if Amanda and West made out?”

Well, I, um, I just, I want better for her. If she's going to get into a scandal with anyone, like, just why not, why West? And also, I feel like there's been so much attention being put on Amanda, like, oh, my God, what a bitch, which is it's bad. It's bad for many different reasons, but also, like if it's, if it, if this is true, let's also like reserve some heat for West to we are, we've watched half a season of him on summer house.

You know, moping around, actually, all last season moping. And then this season, like, I think she likes me. I think I'm in love with her, you know, and if, if we, you know, if we know that he is actually having some sort of affair with Amanda this whole time. Then, like, really have had enough with him. Yeah, because he's obviously just using that for a storyline this season. Like, I'm so heartbroken with Sierra. And then, I mean, while he liked Amanda that whole time, yeah, it's pretty gross.

And, you know, he is a downgrade from Kyle. I know Kyle makes everybody crazy, but, you know, Kyle becoming a DJ.

We're giving Kyle so much shit for that, but that's his second job. Like, he also is running this company into the ground.

But still, running a company and, you know, that's like his second job. West, if West became a DJ, we'd be like, oh, my God, West has a job. Like, we deplored, you know, so he's a downgrade. And I really hope this isn't true, but it's looking true. So, I don't know. Wow. Yeah. Well, we'll, we will be tracking this story, everyone. Don't you worry. We'll be on top of it. And we'll have all the late breaking news on this potential, you know, scanned of all level, some, somewhere else issue, some of all.

I think it's scanned of all level, but they're trying to. There's no, it's, I think it's, it's not scanned of all level because it's having a slow, similar to a boil, as opposed to scanned of all, which, like, dropped like a bomb, you know, and so I think it was like,

And it wasn't cheating.

“Scound of all was cheating. I mean, that was like a 10 year relationship. He was cheating on the best friend and stuff.”

This wasn't that. They're like separated and whatever, and it's West. It would be a mound of all, right, a mound of all. This is what, scanned, scanned, well, we already have scanned this, scanned, scandal, scandal house, scummer house, scummer house. All right. Well, enough of that. Let's get on to, oh, I open notes for survivor. This week's bonus episode is going to be a survivor recap, all right. So the wrong notes, let me open married to medicine season 12 episode 16 reunion part two.

I'll just start by saying this could have been on one part reunion. You know, they had a super sized reunion last week. They could have just edited it.

“That's all I needed. I didn't need this. How about you?”

What? Or it could have been a two part one with one that's not super sized. I don't know. I mean, I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed the husbands chopping it up a little bit more than I thought I would. I feel like they've basically been biting their tongues for 12 years and finally they've had enough. You know, Eugene was like, we've been here for 12 years. There's never been this drama. It's like because they've all just it's been building up. It's 12 years building up and everyone's like sick of Eugene. You know, but like by and large, yes, you know, maybe maybe we could have edited out some other segments that we're not.

There was a lot of retreads. It was just a lot of things that they already talked about last week that they're trying to keep it going for another episode. You had a super sized is was this super sized too? No, it wasn't. So they had a super sized one last week. So at least cut out half and put it on this week and have a two part. I mean, I don't know, but it was like a bunch of talking about the same shit.

But anyway, it's always enjoyable because it's these ladies. So it's always laugh, but I was like, all right, wrap it up. Wrap it up guys. Get up.

So we ended last week with Simone crying and Jackie come to sit coming to sit right pire and being like, tell me, tell me, tell me, Simone, what can I do? And Simone being like, I will not for move forward, never, ever, not gonna, not shut up. Never she was saying, I will not. And when we finished that episode, you said until five minutes when she will forget her and it'll all be over. And I laughed, you know, but you were not exaggerating. It was literally was less. I was actually, I was exaggerating five minutes was too generous. It was literally 30 seconds because as it turns out, the thing that they've been promoting, which is we are never getting back together Taylor Swift.

We are never, it is week. I'm not, I cannot move. There is no moving forward Jackie. And then when we come back and it's like, and he's like, what did you mean you can't move forward with having lead. I was like, oh, come on. Oh, with you, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm forward Jackie. I'm fine. I can't move forward with the narrative that I am aggressive. And I'm unhinged and pushing people. Okay, but can you move forward with Jackie and she's like, oh yeah Jackie, yeah, you know, but not if you can't take a stance on ride and wrong, okay, and you saw the footage.

And, um, I haven't always like, but she did take a stance. She did take a stance underneath, and I haven't even still trying to make a point over there. So, um, Simone's like, Jackie, I want you to tell me what the footage show did I pushed Heavenly like she's alleging.

And she's like, and the answer is, no, you have not, you did not push her.

I wanted to take a kind of building for what she did those screaming at me. That's I'm called for she's screaming at me. Jack is like, but you did not push Heavenly. Thank you. All right, that's all she did into here. No, no, no, but she did hear some more shit. She ain't told you to do more shit. The Jackie's like, are you not threatening that you are not bringing to anybody, not even a flea. Okay, I am on the record and she's mom's like, I may be shady though, and then they're smiling and laughing. And Jackie's like, I'm going to hug you and say, oh, you're going to ask for permission to touch me. You've never had to do that before.

Shut up and then they hug and it's all resolved.

“And everyone's like, oh my gosh. And Jackie says, well, you should not have been followed me though, Simone. She goes, that's true. I should not.”

Simone, get your phone out and follow Jackie back. We are inspirational women. We are women who are there for each other through thinking through follows through unfollows. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crappiness commercial.

All right. Well, first of all, round of applause. I feel healed. I feel healed. You worked in miracle today, Andy. Praise him. I don't, I didn't work any miracle.

The green that Simone did not push or get physical. And they all agree. And they go around the whole circle. It's like, ah, I quite, I can tell.

I mean me. It's literally every person. Contessa, what did you think? Mimi, what did you think? What did you think? What did you think? And they all say, no. And Contessa's like, you know, Heavenly every time you start stuff, you literally go for security every single time. And she goes, no, no, not for you. That's for you. That's for you. That's for you. Not, not one other person. I'll use security on, but I will use it for you. Just, well, you use these trigger words that we're talking about, like, you're unhinged. I'm saying, what is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now we cut to the man in the back room and Scott's like, okay, the ladies are looking good so far. And Curtis, because, hey, be careful. How are you talking about my wife? The only lady on the screen was my wife. And he's got something to say, they're like ripping each other, you know, because Scott's saying that like, oh, you know, like, oh, was Jackie's fine. Jackie's fine. So they're going back and forth and seems like things are a comer backstage compared to the tension that happened earlier.

And then Curtis jumps in and he's like, you Jean, you Jean, please hear me. You know, in the group, we've talked about not getting ourselves caught up in the stuff that our wives do. But Toyota has perpetuated this lie out there and Eugene's like, what lie? What lie? What lie does she perpetuate? And he says, well, she got on national TV and said that I put on my hands on her and I put hands on other women. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. So we see that clip from watch what happens live and Curtis is like, well, she said that other women told her that.

And so Curtis is like, well, you speak to what your wife says, because you're always agreeing with her and he goes, well, well, I don't know what they told her.

It's like, why do you agree to it if you don't, if you don't know, because because my wife has said that you pulled her. And then Steve is like, cut, Steve, what's so funny is that Steve has his little finger and he's like, why he has finger, the whole episode is great. He always puts that out, there's little finger and he's like, because it's convenient because it's convenient and Curtis is like, yeah, you sat there and you supported. You supported her Eugene and she's like, because it's convenient because it's convenient and Eugene's like, I do support her. She's my wife.

It's like, but you sat there and you supported her for that lie. You support her. It's convenient. It's convenient. Call him and seven eleven. It is convenient. It is convenient. It is convenient. And so Eugene's like, well, what's the lie then? What's like, well, the lie is that I put my hands on different women and Eugene's goes, well, too. And he goes, did I touch your wife? Yes, I did. Okay. Well, Jesus, I thank you. Thank you for finally acknowledging what was blatantly on TV.

“And so Steve feels like, hey, guys, I think we miss some other shit that's happening on TV.”

I was like, shut up, Steve, they were finally getting somewhere.

Not really. Curtis is just going to always come in with some bullshit that he's guilty of. That's the thing.

Okay, Curtis just be quiet. Curtis is not the best somebody to bring the message, but it's not you. You are not the messenger sir. Yeah. So we just have Syria. And Heavenly is like, yes, you are strong. You are strong contestant. And she says, well, based on what you went through and she says, oh, this one here. This one here. I will whip her. I will quapper about this road. I'm not afraid of Simone, but I'm afraid of you bitch. And contests is like, wait, wait, can I just say something? Look, let me just say something. It's not the greatest look to say you felt physically threatened by her.

And then to say, I'm going to rip your throat off.

“No, I said, I was going to whip her off, Andy. That's what I said. I'm not going to rip her throat. I'm going to whip her off.”

Okay, whip her off. And Brendan is like, that's on hinge. It's like, well, let's talk about the beginning. Fred, what's your name? We need to go back. Andy, is that your name? Fred, Frank, Frank, what's your name? Praise. Andy does that. Andy does that thing where he wags his head and looks like confused.

Okay, whatever my name is, only running this show. God.

“You know, Andy doesn't like having his name being, um, for God. And I mean, just look at his response to Sarah Michelle Geller last week, which is another thing that was, that was a big thing. You saw that, right?”

Um, I saw that he was offended or whatever, but I didn't, I didn't read much about it. Tell me, yeah, he was, because Sarah Michelle Geller went off about how Beverly Hills was just like so lame this season. And then Andy was on his radio shows like, she came into like, rated just a radio Andy sign right behind. And like, that's my show and like, I love this season. Andy's like, go, he is standing two feet down that Beverly Hills is having a tremendous season.

One of those degrees. And he got really mad at Sarah Michelle Geller. So I think that they're beefing right now. I'll Lord Andy get over it. Beverly Hills sucks this year. Everybody agrees. Like, my amount of 10 dentists agree that Beverly is boring as fuck this year.

Don't take it out on Puffy. Okay.

Yeah, and don't don't have people on just because they're in your house doesn't mean they have to agree with everything. This isn't like a real housewife show. I mean to me, my own home, don't call me a whip in my own home. You're a whip. Okay. If you don't want me to call you a whip, don't invite me over. Yeah, exactly. So Simone's like, she doesn't know your name, Andy, but she has your vote. And Katessa says, well let them know whose house it is and he's like, "Well, work it on it."

What did the right thing? I removed myself and I was not going to come on that girl's trip.

“And Brady's like, "But you still came on the girl's trip." Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?”

Alright. I want to switch gears. Okay. On the lighter note, let's talk about teaching kids medical professionals. Well, blah, blah. It's a medical professional montage of what- Oh, look at everybody working and doing trade, doing great work.

The unspoken rule of reunions is that the second segment they always have like a, okay, here it is.

The unspoken rule of reunions is that once they resolve the cliffhanger, the next segment is the one that you can go to the bathroom on. Because it's always like the goofy segment where it's just not about nothing. It's like, "Okay, let's be a lighter note. Let's see the funny things happen when you're teaching kids." Okay. Go into the kitchen to get a die cook. Alright, well, great work ladies. So, all of from Hamburg, California says, "I feel like social media has turned us into all all into part-time doctors."

What health trend from social media makes you want to scream into the void because patients keep trying it. Jackie, Jackie, come on now. Jack, well, they don't want us to do certain things to the babies, and they don't want to take certain medicine because the TikTok trend says don't do this.

So, we compete with TikTok all day long, Andy. I can't tell you the last time I was able to deliver a baby without first throwing my elbows to the right.

Throw my elbows to the left, and twirking, Andy, it's just how it is.

“Do you know how difficult it is to deliver a baby while the mother is singing?”

You know, they've just got to stop watching North Sea TikTok. One patient didn't want a certain zodiac sign and refused to be delivered. Blood pressure elevated 38 weeks. She just did not want a Virgo, Andy. And quite because they're just dumb. Yeah, honestly, I can't imagine the doctors have to deal with that bullshit. That's actually infuriating. You go to medical school and you put in the hours and the residency just have some ding-dong being like, "Um, I know I may die, but it's important for me not to have my baby during this zodiac sign. Oh my God."

Well, again, like TikTok videos, I don't want you to do that because I saw a TikTok that you, you know, you're supposed to hold the baby this way. I mean, people have just gotten so stupid. I was watching this thing today a TikTok probably about, and it was by teachers, and it was all these teachers who were quitting across the country. And they're like, "I've just fucking had it, man." I mean, these kids are idiots, and you can't tell them anything or you get kicked out or you get reprimanded or something.

And they're just like, "I'm done." Like, and people are just so stupid. The stories are telling, it's like, "Okay, I tell them to open their books to page 14 and then they all just stare at me." And you've got 50 kids just staring at you, like, "Open your books." And then if you say anything, if you call the parents, they're just like, "Fuck you and they hang up on you." I don't know. What do you do?

“Yeah, it's just gotten too stupid. Stay inside. That's what I say.”

Yeah, like, I'm sorry. Like, I do hear those stories, and I hear those stories about how, "Yeah, it's like you can't say anything to the child. You can't, you can't reprimand." Oh my God, these poor teachers, these poor doctors, they're just stupidity out there, and it's too much to deal with. Anyway, back to Bravo, which is not stupid at all. Back to spending our lives talking about housewives. I know. Back to our work on a podcast about the watchwork crap on this.

Back to our super intelligent lifestyles. So Andy asks some political stuff. He's asking about DI, the cuts and DI, and the education department, and the effecting doctors of color. And Simone's like, "Well, I wouldn't be here if I didn't get the pelgrant and other types of aid that didn't require me to pay a back." And, you know, they're talking about DI and stuff.

And that says, "Yeah, I mean, I needed it too. You can get an acceptance letter, but what does that mean if you can't go to the school?" Like, if you can't afford to go. You know, my dad was a truck driver, my mom worked at the post office, so where are we going to get 400 grand to put me through medical school? Yeah, and then Quad points out that nurses are no longer deemed a medical profession, which I did not know that. And I mean, look, I don't see.

How was that even possible? That's, that is wild. Who deemed that? That's absolutely absurd.

Is that a rhetorical question? Who deemed that? Who do you know?

Who deemed that? Who deemed that?

“Honestly, if these, who did that? Who did that?”

Honestly, if these nurses have to go around cleaning up the poop out of people's beds, I think they are entitled to be called a medical profession. I'm sorry, if they're taking my temperature, if they're taking my blood pressure, you, in my mind, are part of the medical profession. And that's crazy that that was taken away from the nurses. That's crazy. I can't believe it. Now, of course, we're sitting here talking about like, look at these kids getting their news from TikTok.

And I'm literally getting my news from whatever Quad is saying, I'm very committed to reunion. But I, I, I, I feel like that has to be true. Well, nursing has not stopped being considered a medical profession by the public, but starting July 1st, 2026, the U.S. Department of Education will stop classifying nursing, including advanced practice registered nurses as a professional degree for the purpose of federal student loan limits.

The reclassification is part of a new federal regulation stemming from the Trump administration proposal. One big, beautiful bill act that redefines which graduate programs can access higher federal loan limits. Well, 50,000 dollars a year. I can't say, yeah, you were wondering who I wonder who I wonder who would have done that. I won't, I can't believe that the Department of Education that is now run by the former,

um, uh, matriarch of the world wrestling for the region. Now you decide to make nurses not medical. These is who would have thought something chaotic like that would happen. This is what, with this timeline, is just a fucking joke, my God. So, um, yeah, they're all talking about what a travesty, this is, you know, obviously it is.

And Andy's like, well, you know, this shows always been unique that it doesn't shy away from real world conversations.

And so he asks about Alex Preddy of fellow nurse and his death during protest against ICE. And doctors and nurses, what thoughts or emotions did that bring up? I mean, I don't know if he says it's devastating because a lot of people feel like a white man would have been protected because a white man died. That means we all can die. And we thought that they had privilege under the administration, but nobody does.

And it's scary for all of us. Yeah, and then Andy asks about gaps in medical care, like mortality in black community, et cetera. And so Jackie is talking about that there's period poverty. The black community has more who died from breast cancer and cervical cancer, no variant cancer. And there's also colon cancer.

And then Andy brings up that there has been an uptick in HIV.

“Amongst black women in Atlanta, uh, to which, uh, contest notes that, you know, that's why it's important for everyone to be on prep.”

It's not just for gay men. Yeah, yeah, I was talking to friends recently and nobody even knew what prep. I mean, there were straight people, but they didn't even know what prep was. I was like, really? I guess gay is for the only people afraid of HIV because, uh, yeah, take it.

Um, so Jeff, do your prep. Do your prep. Me thought a lot about that. I'm like, I exactly, you've been a funny one, I just said. Me thought a lot.

The enders. The gay sex medication preventative HIV medication for really fancy people. Yeah, if you're an Epicurian who's having sex, please get on Muzon Plus. Muzon prep. Okay, guess what, the husbands are now on stage.

And because they're men, they, they cannot be put on sofas where they may risk touching themselves. Um, like, uh, so they're put in chairs because that would be the worst if someone's shoulder. No homo bro. No homo bro. No homo bro.

And Eugene has gotten his wish after acting like a housewife all season. He has been given first chair. And he's like, first chair.

I've never been a first chair.

A violin or anything. I mean, this is weird. And, uh, and he's like, "Whoa, look at that. Did those married medicine read you?" And I'm Andy Cohen.

And we've got the guys. I see, so, hi. Here we go. [clears throat] You can fly front here to get here, see? So he's like, "No, fortunately, I didn't have to fly front here.

I made it." And he's like, "Great, Colonel." So how's it going? He's like, "Great, great, great." No complaints.

“Where did you find that woman that you have on your lap?”

Oh, I just pulled her from craft services. We should probably let her get back to that now. Okay. I will. Who's just one woman, Andy.

Not to. Thank you very much. Okay. Dr. Damon. Steve.

You've got some eyes. You've got some cleavage.

“And you're like, "Yeah, you know, listen.”

I've been in the gym. I've been in the gym, man. So I'm going to show it off." Thank you. Thank you very much.

Yes, you have. Hey, Dr. Scott. How's the ice? Scott's like, it's good. Okay.

Well, Anderson, there were some drama backstage, which is why we pretty much have you out here right now. You want to tell us all about us, Curtis Eugene? What happened? And Eugene's like, "Who?

What drama?" I don't remember any drama. And Chris is like, "Guys, don't create drama. That's for the ladies." Oh, is that right?

We just let somebody check you guys are all sitting out here. 'Cause he made so it's drama backstage, okay? So Eugene's like, "Yeah, we had a discussion." And he's like, "Well, what was the discussion about?" He's like, "Well, so at some point,

there's been twice that Toyota has been asked about lap gate. And I was, you know, not angry about it at the time. So there's been no beef with that, but Toyota is still, you know, I think to this day a little offended

by being pulled into somebody's lap. And so Curtis voiced that he, well, he didn't agree that that ever happened. And Curtis is like, "Well, Eugene, at risk of sounding like a woman in arguing."

"I'm a right guy's woman." I'm gonna beg to differ. You know, Toyota was on watch what happens live. And she said that women have come to her and said that I've had my hands on multiple women,

which is a flat out lie. And then we go to the ladies backstage, and Toyota's like, "No, I didn't. I said he needs to keep his hands to himself 'cause he's had his hands on multiple women."

Which?

I'm like, "It's basically that, but I'm actually rebounded

three times." Because Curtis says, "She said I've had my hands on multiple women." And Toyota literally goes, "No, I said, he needs to keep his hands from himself

because he's had his hands on multiple women." And she says it in this nice way to Jackie, like, "Isn't this fun?" Like, "No, I said, because he's had multiple hands on multiple women."

Right, Jackie? And Jackie is like, "I'm not argument." The Toyota argument, a hundred percent. I did say that, I said it. It's like, "What?"

So Jackie's like, "But you mean on the show?" Just show it not. Okay, but on the show. But on the show, it's too. But off the show, it's three Jackie.

And it's all your fault, anyway. So are they including the affair? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what Toyota's ever talking about.

Jackie says, "Oh, it's mine." Okay. She goes, "Yeah, because you said he didn't do it." Jackie goes, "Well, he didn't do it, baby." "Well, he didn't pull me of his lap,

“and so that's what's stuck in build his ears."”

Now, look, I've always agreed with Toyota on this one.

Like, Curtis fully pulled her into his lap, and it made her feel very uncomfortable, and it was crazy that neither of them apologized with the swiftness that they apologized to quad this season about what Curtis said about,

you know, fertility. And so, and I think this could have been squashed years ago, because of Curtis thought he was just playing around, but it made Toyota feel uncomfortable. He could have 100% just apologized for that,

and Jackie could have apologized for that, and they could have moved on, but the fact that they didn't at that time, obviously it's stuck with Toyota, and I actually would never take that away from Toyota,

but what I think is crazy is that Curtis can't still seem to acknowledge that. Like, that's wild to me. Well, but he, I mean, what's weird about Curtis is he did just acknowledge it backstage. He said, "Did I pull your wife into my lap?"

Yes, but now we're on the stage, and Eugene's like, "Well, you wouldn't even admit that you pulled my wife into your lap," and he says, "Because you wouldn't admit that you perpetuated that lie." What lie?

That you pulled her. I think the lie that-- Curtis, I'm assuming because it's not really stated, and I don't know why, so it's so clear to me, I'm assuming that Curtis's stance,

whether or not it's true, is that he pulled Toyota into his lap, he was horseing around, and it was an overstepping, he didn't realize, and at, but he's not going around

just touching all the women on the show and making them feel uncomfortable. That's, I think, his stance, and Toyota's stance is, "No, he is doing that.

He's got his hands on a lot of women on our cast, and then when the show isn't rolling, he's also being handsy with other people." So, I think that he's taking issue with this idea that he's sort of generally handsy,

but I kind of feel like the first thing that he needs to do is acknowledge the Toyota situation, because that was on camera, and we've seen that. And then he could say,

"I was horse around, but like, you know, I learned my lesson, so I'm definitely not handsy after that. I'm not trying to defend him.

“I'm saying like, that's what he should be saying.”

And I'm sort of surprised that he couldn't even get there. Yeah, I think he admits that the Toyota thing,

but the problem is he wants to make it this huge argument

that it's not multiple women. Well, okay, Curtis, but we saw that with Toyota, and then we know that you were having an affair with someone like 30 years of your junior.

It was 20 or 30 years, I forgot. One of those, you know, for a while, to the point that it was being posted on blogs and shit. So you don't need to be arguing.

It's like, oh, okay. Exactly. So it was just two, so it was just two and not three. Oh, okay.

Just say you're sorry and let it pass,

“but you're the one who's bringing it up over and over”

to try and win some little point against Eugene that's not making you look any better, Curtis. And also like Eugene, like has not looked great this season, and this is,

you're giving Eugene an easy win here too. Just in terms of if we're going to talk about, like, I'm like winning, couldn't quote winning our reunion. You know, just to apologize,

take accountability that you did something, you know, like, that was inappropriate. And then let Eugene continue to take his grave because Steve is going to be,

is going to be, and continues to be all on top of Eugene. You know? So like you just have to get out of the fray, Curtis, and you're staying in the fray

because you're being too stubborn to admit that you did something wrong here. ♪ Delicious ♪ ♪ Here comes one right now ♪

Yeah, so they go back and forth because he's like,

"Well, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say anything until you admit it." And he's like, "Well, I'm not gonna admit it until you admit that you're admitting things." And so they go back and forth and Andy's like,

"Okay, oh, we can leave that there." So let's talk about massages on the beach. Wow, I'm looking at you, Damon, and it's all heavenly, you didn't get one. And he's like, "I thought I did, though."

You thought you did what? Why don't remember getting a massage. Look, we get a massage weekly, so what I consider a massage is what our massage, our massage lady Melanie does.

You know? Oh, you mean asked to be on a table? Yeah. It's not a massage if it's not on a table, Andy. Okay.

Does any of any interest in talking to these guys? He's so, like, not like this. Why is he asking about this massage thing? It's so stupid. Also, Andy just spent a good amount of energy

trying to heal Jackie and Simone.

I'm actually a little surprised that he didn't jump in with Eugene and Curtis to be like,

“"I think what he's trying to say is this,”

and what he's trying to say is that." And it was weird that he just sort of sat there and let them talk about it. And then he just moved onto this stupid question about the massages.

Yeah. Well, that has something sexual to it, and that's Andy's favorite thing. You know? Were you cheating on your wives by getting massages on the beach? Okay.

Well, gentlemen, we saw you go through some bumps with your wives. Eugene, you got a lot of side-eye from the other man about how you enjoy a ability to other during the skip work day party. You called it a married moment. And he's like, yeah, you know, like,

I think it'd be lying in your relationship if you'd been together for a long time. If you didn't have a moment where you said something you didn't mean, you know, we just happened to be on TV with a bunch of people at our house at that moment.

And, you know, maybe there was also a couple of people that might not have been invited had this not been in all cast of it. Okay, stop making, like, oh, well, it was a cast event. So we had people that we didn't like there. You and your wife were yelling at each other

like fools at your house at your party and it made everyone uncomfortable and you acted like crazy people. And then you turned around and blamed everybody else for it. And said everyone else just didn't have as strong as marriages as yours.

No, you know, that's crazy. This is crazy. Yeah. He's wondering why they got side-eye. It's because you are on TV.

He said, well, it just happened. We were just like a typical married couple and said, let me, it came out wrong. It just happened to be on TV. I'm like, it's because it was on TV

that you were getting the side-eye. Because everyone was like, how are you to acting this way in front of people on TV? That's where the side-eye is from is that it was such a crazy public disregard

of how embarrassing you were being to your family in that moment. Yeah. And it was a party. Yeah.

And it was like, yeah. So people were just, I mean, they just, oh, yeah. So married people don't fight at parties on TV. I mean, come on, Andy.

So Steve is like, sounds like an hour to spin to me and that's the truth. And you're just being like, you didn't have to comment Steve. He's like, I do have to comment

because the blame was put on Mimi. But now you're going to have a, you're not going to have a married moment. It's like, well, it wasn't just Mimi. She would call that a bunch of ladies.

No, no, no, no, no, no. It was very specific in the moment. It was U-B's. Did this to me. Mimi and Emily.

That's what it was in the moment. I did not hear. You take it down to building for that. I am not hurting the apology for that. Where's the apology?

Where's the apology? He's like, well, there is no apology because I saw Mimi's face. And it had judgment in it. And I saw Heavenly's face.

And it had judgment. Yeah, because you were acting like a fucking fool at your party. Of course.

“They were looking at you like what the fuck are you doing?”

Yelling it your wife in front of Pete. Have you seen your wife's face? Have you seen the opening credits of the show? She's being judged to the audience. Okay.

That's what Toyota does. Am I right? Love before it. That's what we want from Toyota. Like, you're on a show with judging opinionated people.

And like, you cannot hold that against them. That is why they are there. They are to express their opinions. So hush with the judgeiness. So Steve's like, I see you.

I see what you do.

Convenient.

“Why do you keep the water so close to the entrance of the store?”

Convenient. Convenient. Convenient. So I'm going to hold you accountable. And you jeans like whatever.

And because you're a Eugene Bush. I call. Excuse me. I don't know.

I'm always bringing some sexism into it.

There hasn't been enough. It's been like five minutes. Like, can we be like less sexist for one fucking minute of this show? Cecil chimed. Meanwhile, you know, Curtis is up there.

Like, not messing up to being an appropriate Toyota. Cecil's quiet, but the moment that Steve says, you're Eugene Bush. Cecil's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. You made a guy sound sort of like a girl.

That's in a, whoa. Too much. Come on. Steve at it. That's not right, man.

That's too much. Not doing that. And Eugene's like, okay, you've been rude all day, Steve. All day. Like, it's just like, yeah, it's not right.

Man, whoa, like giving him the maiden name. Whoa, whoa, Steve. I've been on the stage for 12 years. And you just got your Steve. He's like, oh, I've been here.

And I didn't say anything. I've been good. But you've been convenient. Very convenient. My figure's waiting.

An extra slide speeds now. You're so convenient. And Eugene keeps saying over and over. Well, I've been on this show long as Eugene, you suck. And I'm going to a real housewife.

And you need to just stop. It's so annoying. Just let your wife fight her own battles. You know, Daddy has it right. Now he does it.

He's just like, what? What does he do? Okay. Well, she did something wrong. I talked to her.

And they're like, when, when did you talk to her? Off the camera. That's how you're supposed to do it. What? Like, just play dumb.

Okay. We're not here to watch Eugene fight.

“So he's like, why have been on this show for 12 years?”

And you just got here. And now look. The energy's off this year. It's like, I didn't say anything. And Eugene's like, yeah, well, you're one of the new people who are here.

And I'm just putting it out there. I'm just putting it out there. No, but these fights are you. I mean, there is the moment Steve. But this is you.

This is Curtis. This is you fighting for your wife. Is why these fights are happening. It's not because I'm by the way, these fights with Eugene. These fights with Eugene were happening before Steve even came on the show.

I remember there was a thing with Eugene and Nila's husband. I don't really remember what happened with that fight. What caused it? But I know that Nila's husband had to like apologize to Eugene or something. It was like awkward.

But it feels like any time the guys have had some sort of friction.

It's always been Eugene in the center of it.

So then Eugene is like, oh, don't be this weirdness. Whatever. And it occurs like way, way, way, way. But where did it start? It started at your house.

No matter if he's your two years, 12 years, 20 years. There's a respect that goes between men. We're going to respect him because he does not have poopies. That's real.

So Eugene's like, Curtis, we understand. We don't, you know, you don't like my wife. You have an issue with my wife. I get it. I was like, no, no, I've got no issue with the truth.

I've gotten issue with the truth. And being accountable, Mike, but Curtis, you're not being accountable and you aren't having the truth. But that's the exact same. Eugene being an idiot doesn't mean you're not an idiot.

So Andy's like, okay, let's move on, Damon. You're right that Andy's just saying, let's move on. Instead of trying to work anything out. I don't think he watches it. And I think he's just like, right, get me through this.

I'm not the ladies back here. I'm not here to talk to a bunch of husbands. If I wanted to have to deal with the husband, I would have found one for myself. Maybe he's also like slightly intimidated by them.

You know, he's like, like, older, older men. And he's like, you know, like, maybe he's like, goes back to a place of like, I'm like, I'm like the gay kid on the playground or something like that, you know? But I don't know.

But Andy is like, let's move on. Damon, we got a lot of comments from viewers. You didn't understand why you didn't tell Heavenly about Damon. Junior's arrest. So Damon's like, pal, I'm just sort of a quiet guy.

So I don't feel like I have to address everything. So you all do not know the whole story. So don't assume it because you see it on TV.

“So he basically says, I handle it the best way I knew how to.”

And then Andy's like, you have this like this. That's just a quiet guy. I don't feel like I have to address everything. You don't feel like you have to tell your wife that your son is in jail.

Howler, like, I did what the hell? And so they talk about the sentimental health and they ask Andy ask how he's doing. And he says, it's been really difficult but when something happens to someone that you love

when something horrible happens to somebody you love and you don't understand what it is. You know, even when you're a doctor and you've read about all these things over and over again and he hasn't.

He's not a psychiatrist, but he's read all the books. And he didn't still didn't know what was going on. And so he's going to stand out for him no matter what.

So he's not answering basically.

And Scott asks if he's still not seeing him and Damon still hasn't seen him. And then do you feel like personal issues get weaponized a lot here? And he's like, yeah, and I'll be honest,

You know, when people make up lies about me

or when they say that I'm doing things that I'm not doing and then backstage, someone's like,

“then tell your men, then tell your men wife,”

not to do that with us. Tell your wives. Excuse me. Excuse me, TV. That's my man.

So he was like, they've got opposites right. Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two.

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