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Hello, and welcome to Watch For Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on bravo that we just loved to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today, it's the one
βthe only, the be-denomed, Ronnie Carram, how are you? Well, hello, how are you? I am, how are you?β
It's Kyle, and he's on the real house, so I was at Beverly Hills when she comes into any party. She is, how are you? I hope you're having a very good Friday today, because it's good Friday! So happy good Friday and happy years, sir. It's all my, all my Christian friends, and happy Passover to all my fellow Jewish friends. And if you are celebrating another holiday this weekend, happy holiday. And to all
them, you just hide random eggs in your backyard for children to find or rot if they're never
found for animals to eat the rest of the year, you know, more power to, you know, where it is. This is also just a reminder that you have about two or three days left to decide and possibly to purchase a Cadbury cream egg from the supermarket and then eat it and just and say to yourself, this is why I only eat this once one time a year. And they're really disgusting. Really disgusting. Although I have to say, I, so I did that like a week ago, I was like,
well, I'm going to have my Cadbury cream egg of the year where I, where I'm drawn to it, and then I eat it and I say, why am I having this? But this time it was fucking delicious, and I was like, what? It's not supposed to be delicious, it's supposed to be like chocolate
and you sweet and you say, oh, never again. I was like, wait, why was it so good this year?
It was so good. I don't know, maybe if you know, they're starting to take all the bad stuff out, because they can't afford to keep putting it in because the economy or whatever. I don't know. The tariffs are actually improving Cadbury cream eggs. The one beneficiary of this entire ridiculous tarot situation. I will say they're like, we can't afford the nuclear waste anymore. All right,
βthat's what we're just going to have to put sugar in there. All right, here's an idea, really. It was reallyβ
good. I was actually like really upset. It was so good. And the other thing is that like one one thing, one Easter candy that is not that I really do have a hard time thing away from are right next to Cadbury eggs are now it's new competitor, the Reese's Egg, which is like divine. That no notes on that one. You ever got the Reese's Egg? I've had a Reese's Egg. It crumbled and crumbled, but it came apart weirdly, like the both the halves came apart or whatever. And I don't know, you know,
this is a gigantic, that we look like a tanning bed. Yeah. He kind of, yeah. Like no, I was a multi-person on the other side. Yeah. Was yours gooey on the inside? Mine wasn't. No,
it was never gooey. It's just like a peanut butter cup and eggshape. That's all. But it's like a really
great peanut butter maybe. You know, I think I got this thing when I'm trying to lose weight that I'm like, I'm not going to be candy, but then, you know, when I do want to binge out on something, all I have are the non-candy things. And so I learned to eat those instead. So I'll have like a scoop of peanut butter and then some chocolate chips instead of a Reese's Pieces. And that is so damn good. Who's actually love that? So then going back to like a Reese's Pieces, I was like gross. Of course,
a Reese's Pieces is probably a quarter of the calories as no, that's full scoops of peanut butter with actual chocolate chips. You know what I mean? Yeah. But yeah, once I had that, I was like, wow, this is just a bit way to go. That peanut that Reese's peanut butter is actually sweetened. So it's a different peanut butter thing. So like, one does not replace the other for me.
βYeah. And that being said, anyway, and if you want to enjoy your candy this weekend,β
we'll we could probably talk about this for too much, but let me know. But we got a big show today. Remember, on Monday, you better come join us for crappy hour because there's a lot to talk about. Every day. I mean, every single day, this, you know, Amanda West Sierra thing, there's just another silly headline. So whatever the latest roundup is, we'll be doing that Monday. So that's going to be 530 West Coast time, 830 East Coast time. I know you all have things to say about it.
I know you guys all want to wait in. There's a lot going on. There are a lot of layers to this story. So but you come join us for crappy hour of Monday night. Also, we have our Amazon live Monday afternoon. So come join us for that as well. We'll probably talk about it there, too. Who knows? Amazon live got, you know, got drawn into this scandal. So, you know, hey, and then Patreon, come join us at patreon.com/watch or crappins for your bonus episodes.
We did last week's episode of Survivor. I don't know if we'll do this week's because it was two hours.
Honestly, Ronnie, I think it's a lot to cover for a bonus episode.
I started watching that last night. And I was like, why are you doing this to me? Why? Why? Why?
βIt was not a great episode either. I was like, I was like, I was like, this, I'm notβ
saying these spoilers. But Jeff Probs got up there for like 10 minutes and was like, we decided we have to change what this immunity means. It's going to be the biggest craziest thing. It's going to be the blood moon. The blood moon of survivors could change the game. You're going to point out three people. I was like, you've already had, last week you voted out two people. Why is three people going to like impress us? Because they started with 90. I like when he said that he's like,
okay, we're going to, this is going to be the biggest challenge gift ever. Prize ever awarded. And I was like, outback steakhouse. Applebees. Okay. All these like Applebees has got it down, man, because only when you're that starving or you're like, oh my god, Applebees are like, hugging each other and crying like, oh, I'm like Applebees. I can't wait to have iceberg lettuce slather than in mayo. Oh, god. Now, Applebees wants to be a sponsor. Watch a crap-ins. Of course,
βwe'll have a different opinion about that. But I'll be like a TJ up here, change in my tune.β
I'll be like, oh, bees, we could, we could, we could. We could feel good in their neighborhood. Honestly, I do like Applebees. But yeah, that was crazy. And I'm like, really, like, there's nothing. You do not fundamentally change this game. You just added one more elimination. Like, that changes nothing. That's the natural progress of the game. You just called it the blood moon. Like, it was fucking Zelda and shout out to the girl who mentioned Zelda
in that photo. I thought too. I was like, this is Zelda, the blood moon. Tiffany. But um, uh, I was like, you really, I mean, I also at that point with that much hype about how this is gonna be a game changer. I would have been happy if you said the twist is Zack Brown is joining Zack Brown and Billy Islanders are joining the game. I'm like, that would make me happy at this point. You know, I would love to be Billy Islanders tired ass. And by tired, I mean, literally,
she just always looks like, I'm like, how do you work so hard? She's just so tired. And I
βthink that's why I like her because she's a tired person. You know, she still gets a lot done.β
And I respect it for someone who's not tired. For someone so tired, she's doing a lot on this. That's what I'm saying. Literally the episode over that was like, you got the Billy Islanders. Boom ring. I told this fucking Billy. I'm swear to God. It's swear to God. Someone better take all those titles and throw them in the ocean. I'm sick of it. Okay. But we have a chance.
You guys, the point in all of this rambling is that Kyle is an asshole. So let's get to it. Real housewives of Beverly Hills season 15 episode 16, the last supper happy Easter or that's a religious reference for old. There we go. That's true. They did time that out. Right. What I thought this was a great episode. And Andy has been going on and on about like, what this season of Beverly Hills is I love it. I'm like, well, that's probably because he
he's seen his last week's was good. This episode was really good. He's probably seen these last few episodes. And now he's like, oh, season was amazing. That's like, no, the whole season was not amazing. But this is really good. Well, I'm keep hearing it. He started with the whole
season. The amazing. Okay. The second the two thirds of the season is amazing. Then it was the second
half of the season is amazing. And by this time it's like the last 10 minutes of this season are incredible. Like whatever you could do, you know. But it did have this. I did think this was an incredible fight between Erica Doreed and Kyle because they are the three remaining members of the Fox Force 5 and they are truly crumbling. And I don't know. I haven't. Look, I'm not going to just my opinion for what social media says. But I always like to see what the vibe is. I always think
that's like fascinating and seeing in my like, within this inner deviation and my not. And um, so I have no idea. I'm not taking the temperature of what everyone is saying. So if this causes people to take out your pitchforks against me, so be it. I thought this was Erica Jane's best episode
of all time. I thought the way she sat, you didn't think so? Okay. Well, why? Why? Well, first of all,
it's a low bar. She is not really too many good episodes. I can't be sure. I thought the way if I opinion a way right away. I'm like, no, because I thought the way with Doreed was basically like, Bose has supported me more than anyone else. And Erica was like, oh fuck this bitch. I thought the way that Erica just took out Doreed. Like the way she just handled Doreed, I thought was actually so impressive. Erica's like, oh, you're not going to fuck with me on this one. Who the
fuck do you think you are? I've waited for you too long. I thought like, because Kyle's like, Doreed, that's not nice. Everyone tells you, everyone's like, Erica just goes in for the kill. And I thought the way she handled that situation, the way she was so direct, it was like,
You're not going to fuck with me.
You know, even though I've been on Doreed side this whole this whole time, I thought Doreed was disrespectful to Erica. And that moment, believe it or not. And I thought Erica was great. What do you, you didn't think so? You know, I think Erica's just Kyle's attacked dog. And she's not doing anything. She has no storyline. And she's like, okay, we're going to go for Doreed. Okay. Fine. Let's go for Doreed. And she doesn't care. She's bored. She's like, all right,
I'll come for Doreed. I know. I'll tell you. And you know, she kind of sits on the sides. Yeah, the way. Yeah. It's like, don't you talk to me, Erica. I got fuck off Doreed.
βSo that's what she did last week. And then this week, she tried to make it all about herself andβ
cried and stuff, which I thought was funny. But ultimately, the problem I have with Erica's
is the same problem I've always had. She's like a UR fighter. You know, she doesn't ever really
have an argument. She's just like, you're a bitch. You're a bitch. You know, that makes me crazy. Like a UR. And she did that a lot in this episode. I really look, it's hard to be on to read side with the late thing because that is the rootest fucking thing in the world. And to be like, well, I'm late because I'm getting a divorce. No, you're not late. You're late because you're being a stupid butt face who has to like spend 10 hours in glam. That's why you're late. You're an idiot. Stop
being like fucking rude period. That I'm not on Doreed side for it all. And if they just kept it to your late, I would be like, yes, donor, donor in the streets, you know, because I'm down with that, not stoning, but people not being like. And I would have been there. But this whole like, but everybody says it. And then Erica's just jumping in with Kyle. I don't, I don't, I don't
βI don't like it. I think it. Jumper. My interpretation was not that. My interpretation was that likeβ
Kyle was doing her typical like, but everyone said so everyone said so everyone said so and you're like, okay, shut up, Kyle. I thought like Erica was just like, you know, just watching her two friends, whatever, and the moment I like to read is like, booze is the the one who supported me the most over the past year or two has been booze. And Erica's like, you know what, fuck this bitch. Because I've waited around for her all this time. And I think that actually the crux of Erica's complaint
was about the politeness. And like I thought when she like she went in on Doreed about being late all the time as like you think you think you're, you think you're so much like, well, I'm taking
in my kids. She's trying to basically pull like the pull this card. She's like, well, okay, fine.
And then Erica. And by the way, I'm not saying that Doreed is necessarily wrong. When Doreed says, like, I had to find out all this stuff from the tabloids, not from Erica, I think that's a great point that Doreed makes. But I do think that Erica was like, you just were so disrespectful. I put up with so much bullshit. And I've had to wait around. I'm an Italy. And I had to wait around. I just spend my day walking through a ghost town. I couldn't even enjoy my gelato, my gelato. And you're
being an asshole. And you're making it seem like you're the only going through this shit. I actually think this was a totally, totally valid use of you are fighting here. So I was, I was a fan. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crappy commercial. All right, well, let's get into it. We begin at this last supper. Jesus is about to be betrayed because Judas has gotten dirty things of gold to betray him. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Of course, there's not a lot of things
by the way around because this is barely else and not the real bipolar. And these people are like, I'm not eating bread. Yeah. No. Clearly, the food is just rotating around and no one's actually eating from it because by the way, at a certain point, after all the dust settles, Kyle realizes there was a complete food in front of her. She's like, get this away from me. But also, I, so funny that it's called the last supper, but, or the last dinner, whatever,
they called it. But it's actually not the season finale. I thought it was like, oh, is this the season finale? No. And I was like, it seemed like we had this fight, then they all go home and then Rachel has a party, and it's like the season finale party. We're done. You know, it's like the fight they yell it to read again. We're done. And then they're like, and next week, I was like, oh, on the, not season finale. I was like, what? Wait, is next week the season finale?
Did it say season finale? No, it has to be come on. And I don't know. I don't know. So anyway, we're here. And Kyle is mad. And she's like, stop. Just stop to read. You're being too much. Oh, I'm being too much. Carl is across. I do, by the way, this is also my favorite version of Kyle, where Kyle's like, I mean, I think Kyle's wrong, but I love when Kyle gets really mad.
βI think that's like more of the authentic Kyle. And by the way, remember last week,β
I pontificated about Kyle. And like, how she always needs to have like an alpha. When you watch this,
you really can see she is just playing out her entire relationship with Kim through to read. Like, it's so obvious. It's actually really interesting to watch to me. Oh, yeah, everyone with she all that Kathy, like, who are you going to stand up for Kathy? What kind of sister are you going to be right now? Who's sister? Are you anyway? Yeah, the same thing she did with Kim. I don't know. Kyle,
I see what you're saying is her being more entertaining when she's mad.
she's doing something at all. And yeah, it's like when you clean your own house for years and years,
βand it's horrible and it's drudgery. And then you get a cleaning person for the first timeβ
and they're terrible. And they only do half the job. And you still have to pay them. But at least somebody's doing something. And you just sit there and sniff the house. Like, oh my god, it smells so much better. Even if they're not really doing that much. And that's Kyle. Kyle's a lazy cleaning lady. So she is still yelling at to read. And she's like about both literally telling me that you're in a financial crisis. You don't know what your name is on things. I'm like, you know,
I don't know this situation with your money and like, I don't even know that stuff. And you're like, both that stuff. And she's totally throwing both out of the sea. And I love that both doesn't even care. She's just nodding like, yeah. So yeah. I mean, yeah, I said it suit me. Yeah, exactly. And so to read is like, but the thing I said to those, I don't know why you're telling Kyle about your concerns. And those like, well, you know, I've been concerned
about your finances. And that's not a new conversation between you and I. By the way,
βboth always says that. And sometimes I wonder, I think it is a new conversation. But you just sayβ
it's not a new conversation. So like, people get distracted because I have to think that we have that conversation. Okay, I just have to assume we didn't have that conversation. I don't want to see like I'm not listening. So she just says, and we talked about that. And I do believe Kyle is very
concerned for you. And I believe you. I believe it was a genuine conversation. And she's basically
saying, yeah, like, like I wasn't trying to, I wasn't breaking your confidence. I didn't think I was. But I'm sorry if I did. I just was sharing how it genuinely felt. And I told you that, don't you remember? Yeah, she's using the, like, well, I said it to your face. So it's okay, if I said it behind your back thing. But I think she's, I think Doreeth's just Mac, because she's like, you're basically talking to someone, you know, who doesn't have my best interest in heart at
her. So why would you talk like, Kyle, baby, do you into talking about me, basically? And Doreeth is like, well, thank you. You know, I appreciate you saying I'm sweet. And Kyle's like, oh, oh, oh, of course, of course, both of that, both of that, both of that, both of them, sorry. So of course, it's okay with her, but it's not okay for me. She both isn't the one, like, confronting her at every group event, Kyle, both isn't the one taking her off. I'm like, to an abandoned town, God knows where to
confront her about shit. You're the one doing it. And Kyle's like, on fucking believable. Oh, both and I are saying the exact same thing, except it's from when it comes from my lips. It's coming from a trained actresses lips. I mean, both is great. And she's sweet and thoughtful for saying that. But when I say it, I get my head bit off. And she lives and breathes to find a problem with me. That's because you went out of your way to say, oh, her behavior is so erratic.
βI'm concerned. Whereas like, both was like, oh, I think she has an, I think she has a looming financialβ
crisis coming, which is going to be stressful for her, but you're like, but you called and we're like, who? Something's wrong with Doreed. And it was much more about like, uh, rattle rousing than it was really about concern. Yeah, Doreed showed up on this trip. Fine. She wasn't going to fight with you. She's been around you and been fine. You're the one who keeps starting fights. And then being like, why are you fighting with me? So, uh, but it's so typical, Kyle. You know, it's like trying
get everybody against one person that Kyle doesn't like, then tell the audience over and over again, that this person is crazy and that this person doesn't really understand what they're saying, and this person is like, a logical and then and then and then, uh, and Kyle's the victim, and this person's been yelling at Kyle the whole season when it's Kyle who's been yelling at this person the whole season. So, Kyle's moving those hands, you know, she's like, I was on the
Lincoln lawyer. And she's like, "Ticklerify, it was a mutual conversation between me and Boz, and I didn't call Boz to go, so I didn't see a ride expending with you Doreed, but Boz asked, "Boz is the one who said you're spending radically. You have commented on her spending over and over again. What are you talking about?" Yeah, it's like, and also like, there's a larger context of Kyle not being a girl's girl, and seemingly having more of an allegiance to PK. So, of course,
like Doreed's not going to say, not going to really take any of this in, as she would with Boz. So, Doreed's like, "You're going around, asking everyone else. If they're concerned, and Eric is like, "Well, it's not about the Kelli bag. I don't even know that. I was a concern." Because Eric Eurica, you said Kyle, came to you and said that I was a ratic,
and that I'm spending, and that I'm always late. And that's the same thing that she told Boz,
because yeah, the man I said, "Well, she's overwhelmed. Fuck you off of Boz. She's an overwhelmed or anything." This is like exactly how I fight with my sister, like I'm dad. It's like my sister. It's like my non-famous sister who's still my hair, who always shows up and tries act like she gets an award for being the first one to force our family. It's like exactly the same as her. So, Kyle, said to you, Eurica, she said, "To a bunch of people behind my beak!"
And Kyle's like, "Oh my god, oh my god, my headache." I'm getting such a headache. By the way, Kyle's tongue is going crazy today, like in the sides of her face.
Yeah, she's brilliant.
Do you think that you can bully me and Mike, and I'm going to accept it?
She's like, "Can you guys like speak up and say what you've all been saying?" Because I've only had a conversation with people who are saying the same thing. Guys, come and go. Of course, no one wants to say anything because it's Beverly Hills. I also dare and like look at their peas on a plate. I mean, Kyle would be much more effective.
So, I would say that she would be more effective, not saying like everyone's been saying it. Everyone's saying it's just saying there is a concern amongst all of us that this divorce is hitting you hard. And given that you have a such a business situation in P.K., that's not looking great,
βthat maybe you should reign it in. And then if no one backs up, just be like,β
that's the concern, whether people want to say it or not. But like she's like, "Come on, come on. I'm back up here. Where's the back up?" I don't think that would even be cool, because it's not cool to come to somebody and being like, "You're acting like an asshole in your divorce, 'cause Doree's not really doing anything except being late." That's the only, if they just, again, if they just said this was about being late.
But she's making, she's like, "Well, I talked to everybody, says the same thing, and you're mad at me." No, they're not saying the same thing. It's like saying, "Well, it's like calling everybody, you know, and being like, "Oh, my God, what's going on with Iran right now? Can you believe it?" And then you go to the table and you're like, "Oh, my God, everybody's been talking about Iran."
Yeah, because you called everybody to talk about it. That's why I don't know how you're saying it. And I'm just saying, because I'm just saying that would I think be a more effective way for her to communicate at this point, that she's trying to make, even though at the point. I don't even know what other point is. She's saying, "You're mad at me, Doree, you're mad at me, and giving me shit all the time for how I'm talking to you,
but everybody's talking about it, but they're not talking about it that way, and Doree's not giving Carl a hard time about how she's talking to her. All Doree's doing is defending herself every time Carl brings it up over and over again,
every scene, and then Carl's like, "Why are you always coming for me?" She's not coming for you.
She doesn't care about you. She's found a new friend." Well, the other thing is that like Kyle's concern, quote unquote, "concern for Doree" is really not landing, because she's wrapping it up in a larger issue of when both says something you listen, but when I say something, you don't listen. So it's actually more about Kyle right now, and it's not about concern for Doree, but she's sort of attaching the two things together. And so Doree's not going to hear any
of it, because it's just all a big complaint that Kyle has about like, "Why don't you pay attention?" Like, "Why is it when I say something, you don't pay attention? Why not?" And the reason why she doesn't take what Kyle has to say is because A. Kyle doesn't truly stand in it, because she has to be like, and they say it too, right? Does anyone have my back? It's not just me. It's not just me. And then on top of that, not only does she not just stand in it,
but she has a larger context of being kind of shitty as a friend, first by acting like they weren't
even friends in the first place, which she did a few years ago at the reunion, and then by like texting, jokes and memes, the PK. So, like, of course Doree's not going to hear any of it. Yeah, so Rachel's like, "It hurts when someone says that everybody is thinking something. Like, we all, that is damaging." I mean, that's like, "Mingrall stuff." And I'm not saying
βKyle's mean, but I think that it exacerbates the situation when you bring every body into it, okay?β
Roll up stone, look in the cave, and all still be there, because I'm dead. That last supper, I'm dead. It's dangerous when you say we all. That's why I have a problem with the Constitution. We the people? Who the paints a lot? Who are the people? I'm like, I'm not a people. I'm a person. I'm a dead person. Put that in the Constitution. Yeah, like, I have to write to be dead.
Kyle's like, "I hear by proclaim this just to be true. Moisturize a camp." And then no e-bikes. Um, every conversation I've had is with like other people who were saying the same thing. I wasn't just me gossiping, okay? Eric just said that when you had the conversation with her, she didn't agree. She said she thinks that I'm overwhelmed. So it wasn't a mutual feeling coil. Okay, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, what the fuck is the same difference? Love a whample's
ironically, I said it. I said it. I said it. And something is like, okay, can we just stop with that stupid word? I've heard it so many times. I can't even count how many times I've heard it, you know? And so as far as being erratic, I don't believe I'm being erratic. I've had, you know, I've been going through a lot, especially these last few months. And it's not like I'm not sharing.
βI'm saying my life is perfect. I'm not saying my life is perfect. But when you see me,β
I'm clearly overwhelmed. I'm not erratic. Dread you are your juggling lots of meatballs in your hand right now. Well, I just decided to just write that out of nowhere. That's all I'm not erratic. Not erratic at all. But I said it's understandable that you're like this right now. And, and, but I'm not even
Getting it in Greece.
an hour and a half late and left us on the tarmac. And then you didn't apologize. I mean,
βcome on. And then we didn't call you out then, because we were giving you grace.β
And so as I'm like, I mean, you didn't even say hello. I was like, oh, I didn't say, I'm so sorry. I didn't, I didn't come on the plane. So you guys, guys, I'm so sorry for being so late. It was not my intention and I apologize. And here's some some gifts I got you along the way to express my sorrow. They're like, no, and see this line and Kyle accuses them all of not having her back and like making her do this on her own. But this, because it is the being late thing,
everybody does come in and say, yeah, you didn't even say hello, Dread. You know, they all jump on this because this is just part of it. It's like valid, you know? So, um, Dread's like, okay,
okay, okay. Well, I apologize. Now, okay, for keeping you guys waiting. And for every time I
might be late, I apologize to everyone here. Nudely, Coozy, Rochelle, Bruce, Satin, Iracle, Jennifer, Coil, the waiter, the basket of bread, which no one is ever going to touch. This table cloth. I'm sorry, people. I'm sorry, Emily. I'm sorry to the ass on the statue of David. I'm sorry. To the man setting gelato, I apologize to him to the opera singers who regaled us with beautiful music. I apologize to them. I apologize to literally every single person
I could even think of. Like, ah, what about Amanda? Amanda? She just skips. She, she even,
βshe honestly even thinks someone in Megan, who, maybe as a producer. But Amanda's right there.β
Like, she goes down the line and just skips Amanda. I mean, it's like, oh my god. It's like, oh Amanda, I'm sorry. I didn't see you. Satin was literally covering you. She's, she has a wide head. So, you can't really see beyond it. It's like, trying to look past Charlie Brown, if you will, or Lucy, I should say. It's very difficult to see past you, Satin.
I hope you know. I would never purposely skip over you. I hope you know that.
Amanda. Now, obviously, I wouldn't have forgotten you. I'm so sorry. Amanda is well. Do you guys know what Amanda was on this trip? Amanda's like, and so okay. Well, how did you skip over Amanda when she literally sitting right in front of her face? I feel like Kyle is on a mission to make me look bad. First by constantly defending PK. And then we see flashbacks of Kyle doing that. Then she talked to all the women instead of
βcoming straight to me. And now she makes an enormous deal out of nothing. Gee, honestly,β
what else would her goal be? It's not just to make me look bad. So, I love the two of them. The two of them are both so conspiratorial about each other. It's hilarious. Like, you will listen to anyone, but me. You're on a mission to make me look bad. Like, you guys just both fucking hate each other. And you're taking the swipe for if you can. And that's just how it is. And they also know each other because they've been doing this shit to other people for years.
They've been ganging up on people for years and they're using the same tactics or trying to use against each other. And it's so funny because they learned it from each other. You know, they're like, okay. Well, I know what you're doing. You're going. You're talking about me trying to plant seeds over here to make me look bad on camera. And they're both right. That is kind of what they're both doing. But yeah, you know. So Kyle is like, oh my god, you skipped Amanda on purpose.
You didn't, you're acting like you didn't see Amanda. She was right there and so like, well, I mean, I was, I was like leaning. And I was sort of like, I was sort of doing, you know, I am on the man on, you know, ABT, you know, learn trying to learn some ballet moves. And so it was, it was an honest mistake. It could have been like, I don't want to get in trouble here. Okay. I was a normal thing when people don't really notice me. Happened a lot in my marriage. You know, it even happened to me
shopping the other day. I was at my good friend, Dolce Incubinus. And you know, they tried to put me on a hanger, which was weird. I said, I'm a person. So they put me down. And then they just started throwing clothes off from my head. And I'm not a discard pile. I'm a person. Yeah, I'm, once upon a time, there was a lot in my life. Now there's only love in the dark. The fact could do a total of clips of the sudden. Sorry, Amanda. I, I, I, I, I, I clipped you. Is that son of a close? I'm safe,
son, please be quiet. Kyle. I'm not going. We quiet. I'm not going. Okay. I'll tell you what I'm not going to do. It's be quiet. Okay. I was just explaining that I was leaning forward. And so I'm going to repash me and all my head. Sorry to see you like I'm dead. I'm dead. No, I'm dead. Literally no one could see me. That's out of my Bob. And so, Kyle's like, you're literally kissing Drew's ass when in reality, you've had more to say about the Kelli bag than Bose did. By the way, Kyle being so
focused on this Kelli bag is so peak Kyle. You know, of course, all that Kyle can focus on is someone else has a nice bag. Kyle, Kyle, measures everything in everyone else's verses. So, you know, how we were talking yesterday, you were saying, or when we're at
Whenever we were doing summer house, you were like, what is it when two guys ...
why do they have to pee next to each other? And I'm like, because that's the thing. You go stand next to your guy friend. You look at each other's winters and you size each other up.
I mean, it's like a normal thing. And that's Kyle in these purses. You know, she's always
going to stand next to you to look at that damn purse. So, we see a flashback to the villa. And when Sutton was on the couch with Bose and Bose was like, I told her to read that I was concerned, concerned about her finances and the purse she bought with her book advance and Sutton's like, well, but what's the bag like rent the runway or the real real? I mean, will never know. Well, never, never. By the way, but this is like supposed to be the big evidence
and Sutton's talking to you about the bag. I don't know. So, Kyle is like, it is evidence that Bose has been doing it. Like they've shown, they have shown scenes where Bose is talking to
βpeople concerned. But it comes as more believable to Bose, because she's like, is she in trouble?β
Whereas Kyle's just like, fuck to read, you know, this, I think there's also the element of the fact that Bose is a smart lady and she's worked in corporate America. And so even though she wasn't on the finance side of it, you know, she was on the marketing side, there's a sense that like, Bose understands facts and figures. I feel like that's like an assumption that they all have, like, she worked in corporate America. So she understands. If she's at Bose says that there's
a financial crisis coming from my life, I believe it. Like, but it aisles as that people like, whatever, Kyle. Well, Bose also is coming at it like in an HR way. And, you know, even though she wasn't in HR, everybody in office knows HR speak, you know? And so if something is brought to your attention, it's like, okay, let's sit down and discuss this. Your finances have been brought up and I do see that that could be worrisome. Let's discuss your finances, you know? And why were you touching
someone's butt at the coffee machine, you know? Like, if you're just very calmly bringing it out, or as Kyle's like, do you think she's crazy? Do you think we should lock her up? Yeah, seriously. So, Kyle said, well, there's things that have been set behind your back. Just so you know,
okay, then Kyle let me know. It's like, well, it's just always something with me though.
It's always me. It's always me, which is like, um, it's because she cares most about you and treats like not right now. No, no, Rachel. Please, please talking, quote, "Rack, please," not right now. Like, but I'm saying, she cares more about what you're doing, Kyle, because like you guys have like years, a friendship, like years. And, Erica's like, well, the rules are gonna have to say. The rules are not the same because Kyle keeps bringing it up. Well, it's making me crazy.
Kyle's like, "Mom, I'm so tired of being the budging mag. I'm just so tired of it." You know what? They have such deep rid of issues because they've been going through it so hard. And, like, you're hardest on the people. You love the myths. Thanks, Rachel. So, Erica's like, um, "Well, all right, it's something today. Something you said at lunch, where you said you could and Kyle." And so, we have a flashback to earlier in the day
when the cast was like having lunch and sudden was saying, "So, by the way, earlier at our lunch, Doret said she could have ended, Kyle." And now we go to that we come back to the dinner table and Doret's like, "What, what, what, what lunch?"
βAnd all the only thing I eat today was gelato. And she's like, "Well, the lunch with you,β
me, and Rachel." You guys went to the wrong flashback. Now go to the other flashback. And now we have lunch with Rachel and, uh, a chair that people threw that discarded clothes off. That was me. That was me. Damn it. Tim, I'm here. We go to a flashback of, uh, sudden velling her car to rest, right? No, not that flashback. Come on. Get to the lunch flashback. Why are we going to all these other flashbacks just to get the lunch flashback?
And Doret's like, "I have protected Kyle for years at all costs, even when I've got must betray it, but do it!" And I could have blown her whole life up. So she didn't say she could have ended Kyle. She'd just said she could have blown her whole life up. Well, which is similar. Similar. But that's different. When you say like, I could have blown up her spot, meaning like, I could have, I could have said a lot of things
that Kyle's told me. Right. Like, there's a lot of stuff that I haven't said. That's very
βdifferent than saying, like, I could end her. I mean, that's why I agree. And by the way, look at this.β
This is like a retread of, this is, I mean, you could sort of drop her bottles between this and Pinocchio gate. And all the people who are so mad at Bose, people who are like, she is being such a thug and bitch. I hope you then have the same energy for Doret, for pretending like she doesn't know that she's said this thing. And the reason why I actually believe that Doret doesn't remember this, because I don't think Doret ever says, she's probably
not mind saying, "When did I ever say I would end Kyle?" Like, I never said that. But like,
because there's a different thing to say, and someone versus like, I could have blown up her life. I could have like, I could have toldly talked about certain things, you know? So, uh, Sutton is like, "Well, you said I could have ended Kyle." And Doret's like, "Well, I can't actually
Try even try to fathom with that I would have meant for me to ever say that.
look at that. See, look, you're a bad friend. Okay. So you guys were gossiping about me. How's
that? Now that's gossip. That's gossip right there. Okay. Now you're gossiping about me. Yeah. So like, no, that's gossip. No, that's a threat. It's not really gossip. She didn't say anything they could have ended you. She didn't talk about your long relationship that you're still refusing to talk about as you buy a house in Nashville and pretend you broke up with that lady. Kyle. So Kyle's like, "What friend?" Talked like that. Doret will use the excuse of being upset
with me. And like, I didn't jump on my pink, gay band away. You know, I didn't do that. And she knows that will talk to me, "Hey, I'm so like, what's the real reason for having those relentless me out?" Like, am I just a scapegoat? Because you're mittening your wife right now? Oh, that one. Did Kyle get mad at other cast members for being friends with Kathy when she was
having beefs with Kathy? I'm trying to remember. Doret. That's when all of this started. And that's
why it's important. You know, do you know? No, no, no, no. So bad. So I guess Kyle did not. Well, no, I was one, no, I was like half-and-half. Because I'm like, I seem to remember Kyle got mad at people from being friends with Kathy. What do you melt, Kathy? Down. This is the last time. And so your she is melt down was in Aspen when Kyle freaked out on Doret. We're like, "I can't believe you're saying, oh my, there are no one that not for me. No, not there for me."
βThat's when all this started because Doret was standing up for Kathy. And that's why it'sβ
important with Beverly Hills. It's one of the slowest moving shows on Bravo these days and for the past few years. But you have to kind of know the lore because these fights start over something very small and they go for years. And they're fighting about this Doret being laid or whatever it is now. But what they're really fighting about is Doret not standing up for Kyle against Kathy in Aspen. By the way, Kathy didn't even do anything to Kyle. Back then, Kyle was doing the same shit to
Kathy then. Like, yeah, I'm back. And right. And that's why it doesn't land very well for us. When Kyle says things like, oh, well, she's upset that I didn't jump on the I hate PK band lagging because it's like, but you hold people to a different standard because you get very angry at people and you hold years long grudges against people if they don't jump on your band wagons. That's true. Yeah. That's a good point. And also, it's not that she, it's not that you didn't jump.
You did jump on the PK bandwagon. It's just the other side. Like, you've had many scenes with Mauricio talking about Doret getting PK story about out there about how Dorets unstable and how she's won't give PK any visitation and all of the stuff that PK is wanted to get out. You're the reason that's out because you sat there and had those scenes with Mauricio and gotten them out their own purpose, Kyle. She's so like manipulative and gets everything in there that she wants to
and then cries like a victim. Normally, she cries like to like a victim when she's called out on
βsomething. But Dorets, not even calling her out. That's what's crazy to me. It's like, Kyle's just like,β
she was expecting a fight and she wasn't getting a fight. So now she's just fighting with herself until she makes Doret crazy. But yes. And now she's like, what's the real reason for having this resentment towards me? Am I just a scapegoat because you're miserable in your life right now? Well, probably yes, actually, but but also, like, you set the stage for you to be the scapegoat. Like, you you put the carrots out on the field for the for the scapegoat to come walk it up over
to and munch on, you know? So like, you know, it's like, it's not coincidental that you're the scapegoat. So Kyle's like, "Dreet, I don't want you to continuously look for the worst in me.
When everyone has shared the same sentiment, you always focus on me. Like, what are you?
Michael Myers and the franchise that I'm a star of? I mean, I have tried to be there for you. I have told you that I love you and your family. And I've even told your ex that as well. And I've supported you over and over again just as I have P.K. Even more so P.K. That's how supportive of a friend I am. And I've said nothing mean or negative to your face only to P.K. about you. And I mean, I just made an observation that a lot of people here agreed with,
but it was all coming from place of love and perhaps a little jealousy and maybe some resentment. And if you want to continue to look for the negative in me all the time, then you don't have to be my friend. And with that, I put my tongue in the corner of my mouth. I say, "I do." But you guys aren't friends. And you set it yourself multiple times. You're not friends with Doreet anymore. And this whole last season it was like, I barely even knew
Doreet. What? I mean, she doesn't like to exercise. So we don't hang out. And then this year, you're like, "Well, we haven't talked to Doreet. Maybe Doreet and I can come to a better place if Doreet Blob XYZ. See you haven't been friends with Doreet for years." So the fact you're up here like, "Oh, then you don't have to be my friend." That's another thing. Like, you're coming after her all year, pretending like you're coming from a place of friendship.
When you've said multiple times, you're not even friends with Doreet.
βYeah, I don't know. That's the thing. I think that's what I love about this.β
Oh, sorry, go ahead. No, you say, I think I've said it many times. I think Kyle is the one who poisoned this relationship when she got on that reunion stage and acted like she and Doreet, Doreet was
Kuku for Cocoa Boss for thinking that they were ever close friends, as oppose...
like work-a-winses and that ruined it. Yeah, so the table, first of all, the table's annoyed because it's another dinner. This trip sucks anyway. Must face it. This has not been a good trip. It's been one of the worst of housewives. So they're all bored. They go to this final dinner and they have to listen to this again. So they're all just sitting there so bored and they're just watching them fight back and forth and then both is like, "Well, that was a little cold
Kyle." And she's like, "Well, I don't need to be your friend." You know, because I have
other amazing friends who like love me and I love them, Jamie Lee Curtis, for example. And like,
I'm done. I'm done. Okay, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done finding with you. I mean, the pit, that was the show called ER that I was on. I'm just saying. Okay. And like, I do love you and I wish you the best. And you know, Anthony Edwards, like, why couldn't we call him? And that's all I'm saying. Like, it's sad that you continue wanting to see the worst of me. Even though that's all I'm showing you. So Kyle's like, friendship should not be this much work. I'm already fighting
with a husband of 30 years, even though I just said that a million times that we're having this move that's a force ever and we're kind of like the power gone for how people should separate. And I'm trying to fight for that relationship. So you think I'm gonna like work this hard for a friend who doesn't appreciate me? No, I won't. Like, okay, I'm trying to think there to be like, I'm also going through an America. I'm trying to fight for that relationship with my husband.
βAnd you can see by the house I just bought Nashville to bang my girlfriend. What are you talking about?β
You're such a fucking liar coming up. Are you fighting for that relationship? I don't think so. Anything. I mean, me all remember, was it last year or two years ago when he's like, hey, love being you want to go to the park? No, you're disgusting. Get away from me. Go away. She's gonna tattoo that says fuck Mauricio, but not literally, of course. So she like pulls it her blazer and sits down and like she's like, hey, it's dismissed, you know. So Dury, it's like, you
really believe that. Don't you coil that I'm really looking for the worst in you. I'm just like, no, I know it. I know it. I know it. I know it. You know it. You know, you're the god of a detective right now. And I don't know that you believe that couch really cares about you because you seem very defensive. Well, right, but do you not see that this group of friends here support you? I mean, Natalie can't shut up down there. She just keeps on saying Dury, Dury. I love Dury. God,
now the quiet down over there. But this makes me crazy. The Eric is like, well, you're being pretty defensive. You're at a dinner of, you're confronting her at a dinner of dinner table full of
people for like the third time. Of course, she's gonna be defensive such like, where's the bulletist?
And Dury just is like, and both is like, ah, what support feels best for you? And she's like,
βwell, the cops straight to a face. That's what she just said. So that's what went back for with it.β
She goes, I know. But that's not enough, right? That can't be enough. So what is it? She said, well, that's what she said many times all day today. Come to me, come to me, come to me. Listen, this is, this is where Dury, Dury messes it up for herself. I think booze. You have showed me more support than everyone in this group. Put two gina. I was like, that's, I'm sorry, you can't say it. That isn't, that isn't, that is rude.
Those are shown are total support. But like, you, I'm sorry. That was, when she said that I was like, oh, this is not good. This is about to blow up in her face. Yeah, so it's in her face, but I didn't think it was that bad to say because Kyle and Kyle's been working against her the whole season clearly, and Erica's team Kyle, and she's coming at her with Kyle, with her, with her nothing. So, well, I was like, wow, wow, and then Dury goes, period.
βSo, I think you'll have a really bad number of it.β
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