Financial peace isn't about perfection.
It's not about having every single thing figured out
or hitting some arbitrary number. It's really about ease. When money feels tight, a lot of people freeze up or try to pretend like nothing needs to change. But real relief comes from knowing your baseline.
What you truly need, what you can stop, and what you can turn back to later. Financial peace is all encompassing peace. It really is. There is something so soothing about your head hitting
the pillow at night and knowing that you're covered. When things are really rough, maybe you lost your job or your business is not doing as well,
“you should know already what things on your budget”
that you can reduce or get rid of. The more you can use money as a tool to live a better life,
rather than just a scorecard of social comparison.
The better off you're going to be. What keeps us from doing that, which we know we should do with money. The main thing all of you need to know is that. Hey, young and profiteers.
Welcome to episode three of the Money Reset series. Created in partnership with experience. In this series, we've been exploring how to make money feel more manageable and a lot less overwhelming. In episode one, we talked about awareness.
Seeing your money clearly without shame, so you can understand what's actually happening. In episode two, we focused on systems. How to build habits and structures that keep you moving forward without relying on willpower or motivation.
And today we're talking about relief. If money feels tight right now, this episode isn't about doing more. It's about doing less on purpose. Creating breathing room is what brings immediate relief while also helping you build stability and peace over the long term.
You'll hear insights from trusted voices like Susie Orman, Morgan Housel and Jade Warshaw, on how to create that sense of stability, regain control during financial stress, and focus on what actually matters most.
And sometimes, yeah, fam, relief doesn't come from fixing everything all at once. Cancelling unused subscriptions or negotiating recurring bills can create immediate breathing room for you, without adding more to your play.
Experience can help you do those steps, so you don't have to do it all by yourself. All right, yeah, fam, let's get started. If there's one thing to remember right now, it's that relief doesn't start with a perfect plan.
It starts with knowing where you stand, where money feels tight. A lot of people freeze or try to pretend nothing needs to change, but real relief comes from knowing your baseline, what you truly need, what you can stop, and what you can turn back to later.
That's where Tiffany Elieche comes in. She's a financial expert in the co-host of the Brown and Bishop podcast. She talks about having a clear fallback plan for tough seasons, something she calls a "nuddle budget." So a "nuddle budget" is your baseline budget.
You gotta drop down and get your "nuddle" on from time to time. That just means when things are really rough, maybe you lost your job, or you, your business is not doing as well,
“you should know already what things on your budget,”
on your money list that you can reduce or get rid of, like basically if you are a college student, and you have to eat brown manoodles. Because so many people lose their house, and their cable is still on. It's like, you know, they're like, "Oh, what's the extra 80 bucks a month?"
I'm like, you're not gonna say that when you're like, "What am I going to eat next month?" You know, so I know instantly, if I would have a job now, since I had my businesses, but if I were to, I know exactly the places where I can be like,
turn this off, turn this off, reduce this, reduce this, reduce this. So you don't live at your "nuddle budget" if you don't have to, but you should know what that number is, and what things you can activate off when you need to, and that is your, you basically your "Rom and Nuddle" budget,
that you temporarily live at until you're back up again. What Tiffany just laid out is about immediate stability,
knowing your baseline, so you never have guessing in a hard moment.
But once you've created that space to breathe, the next question is what financial steadiness actually looks like over time? Relief matters, but so does direction, and it helps to have a simple framework you can return to when things feel uncertain or overwhelming. Jade Warshaw, a financial coach, and co-host of the Ramsey Show,
thinks about financial stability as something you build intentionally step-by-step. She uses a simple checklist to help people stay grounded and focused, especially when life feels uncertain. So financially responsible checklist, number one, your person who is living on some sort of budget,
like we talked about, that is just, I know my numbers, essentially. I know what I earn, and I know what my expenses are, and I know what piece of margin is going for this, and what piece of margin is going for that. I'm living my life on a budget, number two,
I'm a proponent of a debt-free lifestyle,
“I'm a person who's out of debt, I avoid debt at all costs, so so important.”
Number three, I'm a person who carries the proper insurances. All right, so many people don't, whether it's in the business world or it's in their personal life. Uh, I see it all the time, I talk to normal everyday people about their normal personal finances,
People are overinsured or underinsured or not insured, and it's a problem.
They don't pick up life insurance because they think it's an inconvenience, and I'm like it's absolutely not, you need life insurance. So carrying the proper insurance, the fourth one on the list, of course, is a person who values savings, and that comes in a couple of different forms.
“Of course, you need to be having a cash emergency fund anywhere between,”
I would say anywhere between three to six months, some people do a year, that's your bag if you want to do that. But this is just cash money you get to, you need to be investing at least 15% of your income, of that's the point in your life that you're at, if you're at an investing point, at least 15% of your income, at the very minimum.
And then of course, yeah, real estate, your primary residence, you need to have a primary residence. I renting for a season is fine, but long term, you need to own something. It's like a forced savings account, real estate is, if you're buying good real estate, is going up in value all the time.
So those are the three ways that I would suggest saving money for anybody.
And then finally, you need to be number five,
would be need to be prioritizing generosity. People forget about that one generosity is so important. I said it earlier of the three things you do, gave savings spend, giving is at the top of the list. We've all heard the parable when your hand is open, money comes in and money comes out.
A big part of feeling financially steady is knowing what needs attention first. Once you've got a framework in place, the next questions tend to come fast. What do I tackle now? Do I focus on debt? Do I save? How do I make progress without feeling stretched in every direction? That tension is especially common when debt is involved.
It can feel urgent, heavy and all-consuming,
“like you have to eliminate it before you're allowed to do anything else.”
But the order matters and so does understanding the trade-offs. Jean Chatsky, host of her money podcast, breaks down how to think about paying off debt. And the way that's both practical and sustainable. The cheapest fastest way to pay off debt is to just stack it.
Highest interest rate to lowest interest rate.
Pay off the highest interest rate debts first while making the minimum payments on the rest.
Once that high interest rate debt is gone, then you just move on to the next one and so on and so on and so on. The student loan debts are a little bit of a different beast. Long-term debt, student loans, mortgages, car loans. You basically want to try to pay those off on the schedule that you're given.
If you're struggling with your student loan debts and their federal debts, then you want to make sure you're enrolled in an income repayment program through the Department of Education. We're getting some changes to those programs that are helpful.
“As long as you're enrolled, you should get notified of the changes”
and they should come your way, but don't let paying student loan debt faster get in the way of doing important things like grabbing the match from your 401k. Because if you look at the return on your money, the way that we think about or the way that we should think about return on your money is equivalent to the interest rate. So if you're paying off a student loan debt at 6%,
that's like getting a 6% return on your money. If you're getting 50 cents on the dollar as a match in your 401k, that's a 50% return on your money and you can't not get that because you want to pay off the debt at 6%. You just pay off the debt at 6% a little bit slower. What this really underscores is that progress isn't about choosing one perfect move. It's about sequencing, knowing which steps protect you now while still moving forward.
And this is where many people get stuck. There's a belief that you have to wipe out every single dollar of debt before you're allowed to save anything. In real life, that mindset often creates more stress, especially when the unexpected hits. Tori Dunlop, a money expert and author of Financial Feminist, challenges that assumption head on. She talks about why building a small emergency cushion isn't just a financial move, but an emotional one. And how that sense of stability
can change the way you make every other money decision. One of the misconceptions I hear a lot
is like, I need to pay off my debt first before I save. I just so strongly disagree with that.
For a couple of reasons. One, I don't want you going into more debt trying to pay for an emergency because one will come up, right? And the second is that we prioritize mental health at her first center, okay? And like we were talking about this before of this feeling of stability or this feeling of choice. There is something so soothing about your head hitting the pillow at night and knowing that you're covered. You lose your jab tomorrow. You get laid off. You're going to be fine.
A medical unexpected medical cost comes up. You're going to be fine. Or at least find for a
Period of time, right?
about that, but also so comforting about that mentally, just knowing like, okay, I'm good. Your emergency funds should be at least three months of living expenses in a high yield savings account.
It's a good starter emergency fund. That is our first step before we pay off any kind of debt
and that includes credit cards. So that's priority number one is that emergency fund in a high yield savings count. Everybody listening, if you do not have a high yield savings count, you are losing amounts of money on interest. It's the easiest thing you can do to immediately better your life because it's just like a savings account, except a higher yield. It's just going to boost your savings. If you're savings, it's just going to sit there, which is what we want. We may as well have it
work harder for you. Yeah, fam. That sense of security changes everything. When you know how you can handle a curveball, you make decisions from a calmer, more grounded place, not from panic.
When we come back, we'll talk about how to think beyond the immediate moment and start using money
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Now that we've talked about creating stability in the short term, it's time to zoom out. Because once you have some space, money stops feeling like something you're constantly reacting to and starts becoming something you can use intentionally. Not as something to measure yourself against or stress over, but as a tool you can use to build your future. Susie Orman is the host of the women and money podcast and she's known for cutting straight to the emotional
core of personal finance. In this clip, she explains why fear, not market swings is often the biggest barrier to long-term security and why investing works best when you stay focused on the long game. What keeps us from doing that, which we know we should do with money. And again, we could
“do a three hour podcast here, but the main thing all of you need to know is that fear, shame, and”
anger are the three internal obstacles to wealth. You have to know that your emotions rule what you do. And since you and your money are one, you have to be very careful. So there's so many things to all of this really. So given that you have control over your emotions, given that you do what I'm about to tell you to do when it comes to money or not, then you will seriously prosper. At the age of 30, 40, you're not day traders. You're not buying and selling. And if you are, you're making the
biggest mistake out there. You are investing for your future. You want your money to compound for you. The longer it's invested and the more that your money makes, that that money makes, the more money you will have. When these markets were going down and down, they were all the things you wanted to buy were on sale. No, I'm not saying that you should buy Microsoft or any of those things.
“These stocks that may be the future again one day are on serious sale. What do you want to do?”
Buy Microsoft when it's at $3, $4,500 Amazon when it's right at three really everybody. So your goal is to invest in a retirement account. Preferably if you're not making any money, you want a Roth IRA. You want a Roth 401k, a Roth 4013b, which are retirement vehicles where you are investing with
After tax money.
now and even if you are and if you qualify for a Roth IRA, oh my god, you put money in there. You do it
“every single month. If you don't know what to buy, just do a good exchange traded fund like the”
Vanguard Standard and Poor's 500. The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund or the Standard and Poor's 500 Index Fund or whatever it may be, get yourself to versification, do it month in and month out. And years from now, oh my god, the biggest mistake you will make is waiting until you're older to fund your retirement. Once you strip away fear and stop treating investing like a referendum on your worth, a different question comes into focus. What does this money actually
for? And once you ask that, you realize that even good habits need to evolve as your life does. Morgan Housel, the author of the Psychology of Money, explains how saving quietly can turn into an identity and why money works best when it's used to support your life. Not kept as a scorecard, you're free to touch. Well, I think it's interesting if you talk to a lot of financial advisors. They will tell you one of the biggest problems that they have with their clients is you have a
client who has saved diligently for retirement for decades and they've saved up a giant nest egg. They have millions of dollars saved for retirement and then they're 65 years old and they retire and they cannot bring themselves to spend it. They cannot do it because saving money has become so
ingrained in their identity in their personality that they can never switch gears. And I think that's
really, that's really important too and it's a very big problem because in your 20s, 30s, 40s, you create a very good habit of "I'm a saver. I'm a long-term investor." And yeah, you can never break away from that. You can't do it. So the idea that a good financial skill in your 30s can actually
“be a liability in your 50s or 60s is really important. I think about this in my own life where”
in my 20s and let's say early 30s, I was a very big saver and I'm so proud of that and that's great. Now I'm in my 40s, I have two kids and we spend more than we used to and it's not because I broke my previous good financial habits. I don't view it that way at all. It's like I built up money so that I could spend more of it now and have maybe a lower savings rate than I used to because I have a bigger family who are hungry and we go on vacations and when I end and I think
that's wonderful. The more you can use money as a tool to live a better life rather than just
a scorecard of social comparison. The better off you're going to be and if you always view it
through that lens like how can I use this money as a tool for more happiness? Not just how much can I accumulate and have a higher score than the next person. I think that's always the better way to think about it. When you start thinking about money as something meant to serve your life and not define it, the end goal becomes clear. It's not just about saving more or spending less. It's about reaching a place where money stops dominating your thoughts and starts supporting the way that you
“actually want to live. That's what this is all building toward. Jade Warshaw calls it financial”
peace and she describes this as a kind of ease that shows up not just in your bank account but across your relationships, your choices and your day-to-day life. Financial peace is all encompassing peace. It really is. It's like I said before money touches every area of our life and a lot of times we think money is just this thing that's in our wallet and that's it and it buys us things when we want it. But it's not. It's deeply connected to how we view ourselves
like I said our relationships, our spirituality, all of those things. And so when you achieve financial peace, it's just this ability and you kind of hit on it earlier to just go about life with ease. It's the, uh, right, the feeling of, you know what? The check was supposed to come Monday and it didn't. Okay. We'll figure it out. Like there's no stress. There's the ease. There is the ease of if somebody in your family needs something, you can help them and you don't have to set your
self on fire to help somebody else. You can just help them. And so yeah, financial peace is an ease of life. It is peace all around. It's the ability to make sure that you're not so focused on money and making things right with that that you're neglecting these other areas of your life. You're neglecting your own mental health. You're neglecting your relationships. You're neglecting you're not in the career path that you want to be on. And so when you get your money right,
everything else begins to fall into place. As we wrap up this episode and the entire money reset series, I want you to take a breath and really let this land. Financial peace isn't about perfection. It's not about having every single thing figured out or hitting some arbitrary number.
It's really about ease.
make choices and a way that aligns with your life and stop letting money be the loudest voice in
“the room. And sometimes relief doesn't come from fixing everything at once. Small steps like”
cancelling unused subscriptions or negotiating recurring bills can create real breathing room
without adding more work to your plate. Experience can help you with those tasks so progress doesn't
“have to rely on you doing everything yourself. My hope is that the series helped you see your”
money more clearly, build systems that support you and move a little closer to that sense of
calm we've been talking about. Wishing you financial peace and thank you so much for listening to our money reset series brought to you by experience.
