True Crime Vault: A Captive Student

Police put a man behind bars, but as the years pass, doubts emerge, about whether the

real killer was ever caught.

“That's when Angie's own mother, embarks on a decades-long mission to uncover the truth.”

Listen to the snare, a new series from ABC Audio. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your favorite podcast app and add free on Amazon Music. Welcome to the 2020 True Crime Vault, where heart-stopping headlines come to life. My name is Sara Beth Meyers, and I'm a former assistant United States attorney. I became a prosecutor to help particularly vulnerable victims.

The admiral alert was issued for a missing teenager, believed to be in danger. Thomas was last seen at 7.30 a year, March 13th. A 15-year-old girl taken by a 50-year-old man. I was the main federal prosecutor in the tag comments case. A small town story that became a national phenomenon.

Now, sending out a nationwide alert, tips coming in from dozens of states. I've been covering the story since its first broke five years ago. I've traveled thousands of miles, talked to dozens of people in this race against time and tad comments. He starts out with making her feel special and smart and loved.

“That's what really allowed him to take over her brain and her heart.”

He never before seen video of tad comments interrogation.

We have no idea where these individuals could be right now. They threw both of their phones in the Tennessee River, then it was just completely off the road. Your head does go to the worst possible place, and that is that they're not going to be found alive. I don't think anyone had really heard of Cullioka Tennessee until this happened.

Cullioka is a small community, there's not a lot there, it's a little bit of place with the school and I store and a lot of farms and country people. The railroad track runs through there. We do it the best sort in the south.

“They used to say that for the same seat of court in North Carolina grows one year to our”

three. Everybody in Cullioka knows everybody, and all the kids there go to school together, you know who play sports, you know, he's on the band. 15-year-old Elizabeth Thomas is for the most part on the outside, a very typical teenager. She was somewhat of a tomboy, she might really rough, she could switch to being really nice

and sweet. She come to my house and we would talk and watch to be junk food. Paige Griffith and her daughter, Erin, say they knew Elizabeth Thomas well, that's Elizabeth on the left, play fighting with Erin in the back of the car.

She was just really high energy and I come through the door, she would do the first one that

would run up to me and shove in my arms and she gave her daddy. Elizabeth was homeschooled for her entire life and her mom was the one who was in charge of that money. When I first met her sister Sarah back in 2017, she showed me around a Elizabeth's room and there were tokens of childhood innocence all around.

And she still has it, she has every black package she comes with. There was an Xbox that she had used her money that she'd saved up from a part-time job to buy, but the toys and the blankets all of it overshadowed by a childhood that had clearly been difficult. Her mother allegedly abused her, physically.

We had a lot of stuff going behind closed doors that shouldn't have abusive, very violent, very physically violent and now escape because you were homeschooled. Elizabeth's siblings say they suffered for years, all that coming to a head when their mother hit one of them with a two-by-four. My mom hurt my sister and we were just fed up with it, we were just done.

After watching all this abuse, we could have stayed anybody.

of family services to get help?

“The children themselves secretly got together and wrote a letter to the agency.”

Did your mom know that was happening? No. Were you scared? Really? Like, we were all having panic attacks in the middle of the night, like I woke up shaking

sometimes. It's just fearing what she would do if she found out. Her father Anthony Thomas worked long hours in pest control to support the family and says he had no idea how bad things were at home.

I had to just been basically working, basically providing.

How did you find out what was going on at home? There's two sheriff's deputies in my yard and two caseworkers in. It's hard for you to talk about, isn't it? Yeah. You don't like to think about what was happening.

So I'm going to take a break.

“I'm going to go outside and get some air.”

Your mother was charged with abuse and then removed from home. A judge has ordered her to stay away from her family, she's charged with five counts of abuse and neglect. In their case, pending, Thomas would only say, "I'm not guilty of those." There was a plea bargain made and has now those charges have been expunged.

There's no one to do the home schooling because the dad is out working all the time. That forces all the children to now enter public schools. What was it like when you first got to school? It kind of grounded. It really liked it. It was confusing. There are so many halls and so many classes.

Whenever you get out, it's like walking through New York City. It's all completely new to her. She doesn't know anything about lockers, time periods, bells to change in classroom. Public school makes anybody that's an outsider, the target, an easy target. She went from the prime pan to the fire.

First thing they did was call me ugly once I came to school. But I just, they did myself. I was real quiet. I just did my work. Was it easy making friends? I mean, they all had their little clicks. I'd been together in the school since elementary. You can't really disrupt that.

A teacher steps up to help Elizabeth with this difficult transition. He can see that she's struggling. The dad comments taught health science. You can see him in this YouTube video, demonstrating CPR to students. See the neighbors.

She was in his class and he began to help her make this transition from home to school to public school. And somebody would pick on her. He would take care of it. He's popular with the other teachers, but most of all, he's really popular with the other kids. What's his class like? He didn't ever really care too much for as far as like little went.

We weren't those have cell phones in there, but he never really cared.

He was always wanted to just kind of let you do your own thing. He tells you to calm tad. He doesn't really care for the last name basis thing. He is kind of like the cool teacher. Everybody wanted to take that class again. Absolutely. At what point did you meet dad comments?

I was about to enter the lunch room. I was sitting there with a few friends and then they said, "Are you hungry?" and I went, "I don't have a soul or if I did, like I'd be hungry or something like that." And then he came to me and he pointed at me and said, "My soul sees you are soul." Kind of scary.

I knew how long you'd been at school at this point. I think that was not even a month. She was miserable. She had no one in that school to talk to, except for this teacher. She was so vulnerable and she was looking for somebody.

He starts out with making her feel special and smart and loved.

“And that's what really allowed him to take over her brain and her heart.”

If that was all part of us calculated, say, twist and plan. He had a dark side and she was the focus of that dark side. For most of her life Elizabeth Thomas was home school. So it wasn't until she was 15 that she went to a public school for the first time. And she meets a very popular teacher, a health sciences teacher, Tad Cummins.

My first met Tad when I was in junior high. And he seemed like a popular guy.

He was always kind of cutting up and clowning around a lot.

Tad is my baby brother. He's been my best friend since that day he was born. My mother was the troupe leader of my brownie troupe and we had to do something with Tad. We didn't know what to do. So we dressed him up like Santa Claus and put him on the flood with us.

I remember him talking about how awesome the pineapple swore.

“He cut him right out of the ground and ate him.”

I was 17 years old and he was 18 and we met in his high school parking lot. When you meet that right person, you just know we just everything clicked. Everything was perfect. All I ever wanted was to get married and on that Mr. Wright and have a family. The best word to describe Tad Cummins would be charismatic.

He had all the training and stuff and good citizen. He was part of a church.

He's never had so much as a park and ticket.

I mean, he's never been in trouble. We had everything we ever wanted to be to full kids and beautiful grandkids. That was a light grown-up with him. We had a very close family. Very happy upbringing. Everything was always our fate.

He taught me everything I know about God. He's a wonderful Christian man. God is the center of our marriage and our faith. He's the most important thing to us. Teaching is actually Tad Cummins' second career.

Before that, he was a respiratory therapist at a local hospital. And it's there that he worked with a man named Chandler Anderson. Tad was kind of a bully about things. He would say things like you're stupid. You shouldn't be in the ER.

In front of other people? Oh, yeah, in front of other people. I have seen Tad be told no. And I've seen the rage and anger he gets. He doesn't take no well.

I don't know absolutely. Chandler is not surprised that Tad would leave a more lucrative job working at a hospital to be a teacher. If money is not the central issue and feeding or ego is, that's what he chose.

Who tells a teacher no? Certainly not students. That's the first time I've seen him, you know, love a job so much. He loved helping people. Students would go to him with their problems.

Teachers would bring him students who were having problems so he could talk to him because he just had that type of personality.

But always knew how to help people.

The right things to say. And in the beginning, it looked like that was what he was doing for 15-year-old Elizabeth, helping her adjust to a new school where she was having a tough time. Elizabeth, like the other students, started dropping in on Tad Cummins Free periods to have conversations with him and to seek him out for help.

I think that upsetting me. Anyone that would tease me, I go down there and talk to him.

“Did you feel like you had anyone else that you could possibly talk to?”

He made me feel like I didn't have anyone else and no one really cared about me like he did. What did you think his reason was for being around Elizabeth? I think initially he was wanting to help her because of her past abuse. You knew where she was coming from. Yes.

She wanted a therapist, he dis waited her from getting a bonafide therapist. I was feeling real low and I was wanting to get on anti-depressants and try to go to a therapist and he told me, "No, not to do it because it changed to ours." So he convinced you not to get help. Yes.

And it's progressed a little bit more than just a relationship at school because Tad and his wife and the extended Cummins family has really welcomed Elizabeth into their family and to their home. It was like a father-daughter relationship. It's the way I saw it, Tad.

It's the way he would explain it. In fact, I caught her our third daughter sometime. He gave me money and he also bought food for me and put it in this classroom. He bought a microwave and put it in this room that lagged, he hit up my coffee. He also gave her a Bible and really illustrated, you know, the links that he was going to

earn her trust and not only using his authority, position as a teacher, but as a man of faith. Our creature's wife was going to be talking at church once the morning about abuse and how to get past it and so we talked about it and decided to invite her. Taking someone to church doesn't seem like something that would make most people think twice.

“You have to build that trust and then once you do that then you can just slowly and slowly”

get them under your wing. Was there a point that you realized he was trying to be more than a teacher to you?

Whatever he'd like, just be staring at me all during class, he was always eyeballing me,

looking at me, sitting at our table. The relationship is gone from teacher's student mentoring relationship to something completely inappropriate. She was just a perfect storm might need to happen. They try to make a move on you. There's one time where he told me that I'd look nice naked and realize this is getting too far. Elizabeth is now spending more and more time with her teacher-tad comments.

She needed some structure and stability in her life and he provided that that was a way for her to escape.

Kind of a challenge we she'd had. He was sort of like the center of your whole world at that point. He was. How did you view him? Kind of like a guardian or a mentor? You have a person with you know, a lot of intentions that takes advantage of that closeness

“that the student has with the teacher and that's what happened to me.”

Like I fell in love with my teacher when I was 16. I was groomed and I was abused. Cheryl Nichols details her own traumatic experience in the documentary series "Keep This Between Us" describing an illicit relationship she says she had with her teacher when she was just 16 years old. For years I had convinced myself that I was making this choice to be with him. But now there's no doubt in my mind that he was in control of this.

You can't tell somebody about this documentary without them saying, "Oh, that happened at my high school." I started getting like hundreds and hundreds of DMs on Instagram from women and girls who this had happened to. So I have over a thousand messages at this point. The relationship between Ted Cummins and Elizabeth starts to change. They start to communicate outside of school. We did via Instagram. He made a fake account and he made me make one as well.

I have a thing called a "Fin Stuff" which is a fake Instagram where you have your Instagram that everybody knows about it and you have your fake Instagram that you can do all your crazy stuff in. So on these social media accounts, Cummins puts up posts like, "You're on my heart ever

talks about it. It was love at first sight." Elizabeth responds, "I look forward to going to school

“just to see you. I love you so so much." And then Cummins starts to get graphic. I think that's”

secret language between each other. That only they know about. That makes her feel special. Right, and that's just grooming 101. Grimming is manipulative behaviors that groomers use to gain access to a student. Tiny little things that convince the person that they're essentially making the choice to be in this relationship. Once the boundary is crossed of "I am your teacher, I am your authority figure, then to I'm your friend, then anything can go."

So you were direct messaging each other? Yes. Most of them from him would be sexual text. He would sexually text you. Yes, implicitly like sexting. Some of the phrases consist of sight you standing next to the locker this morning with your backpack on. Talk to myself. That's a nice ass right there. He said she can come into the classroom anytime she feels like it. It was her haven. It was her safe space. But quite to the contrary, it was just the opposite.

It was an opportunity to get her alone in the classroom. This is you hang out in his classroom alone often. We just chilled out there. And then it turned into more than just hanging out there.

“Next thing I know he said you look pretty nice naked. When did he take it to something more?”

Whenever he first kissed me, how did he make that move? He grabbed my face.

Did you tell somebody? No. I was scared. I don't want to tell my parent that a grown man kissed me and I don't want to tell friends that a grown man kissed me. I felt guilty. Like I'm not saying he started it. But I was 15. You know, he's a grown man. It didn't let progressing to more than just kissing. Yeah. If you work there to look cool, faster you're from and he would come and see her.

Why would he come and chip away? He thought he was at his car. And talk? And that's his talk? What was he wanting you to do in his car? Um, things that were very inappropriate.

You cannot consent to sex with an adult unless you are an adult. Anytime a kid is saying okay to an adult about something sexual, they're not actually consenting. They're just saying okay. This is no longer an innocent relationship. This relationship is taken on a whole new level. It is frightening and it is criminal. He would have sexual acts be performed on him.

Oral sex in the closet in the classroom. And he would just pull you into his closet. He'd up out the closet door and he'd look at me a certain way and I knew if I didn't go. That he'd be upset. And no matter how many times I've tried to stop it, I was fearful of what he'd do. If I did anything.

And Elizabeth was keeping all of this. Everything that was happening would come in hidden but that explosive secret was about to be revealed.

never expected. Tad Cummings is kissing Elizabeth Thomas and the student freaks out.

“She runs to the administrators and she tells him what she has just seen.”

The school starts investigating. And they removed her from any classes and they put what they call a no contact order in place between the two of them. Tad Cummings is going to figure out a way around that. And, you know, Elizabeth, she did whatever he told her to do. Out of both fear, manipulation and love.

They wouldn't let me go down to his class anymore. Did you want to go to his class still? Not really, but a part of me did. This was a teacher who was loved by the students and the teacher so a lot of people were shocked. They felt like I ruined his life because he was telling you that.

Yeah, because he was a good teacher.

There was a lot of names and teasing that came around and a lot of bullying outside of the inside school. Did you want to go to school? Not anymore.

“I tried to say I was sick or something and I wanted to go home.”

I didn't want to be there. It paints a very different picture than what the community knew of him. We all have a facade and behind that are some skeletons and some things come out that the normal public don't say sometimes your family don't say. Did you hesitate at all to think maybe this little girl wouldn't have come forward to say

that she saw this if that didn't happen? Do you trusted your husband that much? I did. I trusted him that much. It could have just been that she thought she saw something and she didn't know that she was just fired out lying.

And as for Tad Cummins, another student comes forward with an alarming story of her own. Is there any moment that you look back on now and think, "Oh my gosh." He was definitely trying to cross the line. And as the investigation into that classroom incident, he's up. Tad Cummins finds himself in the hot scene.

I absolutely did not do that. I did not do. I just got the impression from both of them that they were lying. I did nothing wrong. But I came in here not knowing if I was caught in the shot.

I'm more afraid that I've ever been in my life. Tad Cummins, who's one of the most popular teachers at school, has just been caught kissing one of his students in his classroom. And of course, that was just a glimpse. That student just happened to walk by and saw the curtain open just a bit to see the wizard working

in the controls. And it doesn't take long for rumors to start to spread about what happened in the classroom. One of Tad Cummins' former students hears about it and starts to see her own experience with him in a different light. I was going through my parents divorce at the time and did he notice that you were having

a hard time. He and I just kind of connected, you know, I'd stay late and talk to him for a minute or, you know, go to his class, poor school after school, um, during lunch, stuff like that, just kind of hang out and talk. Some of the students would make jokes about us being in love or whatever and, you know, I kind of blew it off.

Looking back now, she says there was one day where she was alone with him at a piano in the school music room where she now realizes he crossed the line. He said down the sort of plane, I'm saying to the high name and I start recording because, you know,

“he's doing really good. And what were the lyrics to this song?”

Stuff like I could swim the thousand miles in the ocean from side to side. You're the kind of woman of man could love for the rest of his life. How old were you at that point? I was 15. I didn't see anything wrong with it at the time. I really didn't, you know, I finally had come around and been like, wow, you know, this is really who he was. You know, I didn't know him at all.

Nobody wants to believe that that person, that teacher, that they really like and they've

grown to love, is doing something so awful. Destiny says tad never touched her inappropriately,

but her family moved away before she graduated. And so the question remains could the same thing that happened to Elizabeth have happened to destiny. Now, in Elizabeth's case, the school district does talk to all involved. They're trying to confirm the report of that kiss. They conclude that there is no evidence that there was a kiss.

Or did they get that wrong? But then the sheriff's department decides to look into the case, too. Detective Marcus Allbright interviews Elizabeth. She says she was upset after school and tad was probably consoling her a little bit.

There wasn't any physical contact between the two. Other than he grabbed her hands and told her she needed to calm down, that was her version of it. That is very typical, wanting to protect the person who is allegedly protecting you, who has been grooming you from months on end.

2020 obtained this never before seen video of tad comments interrogation.

Tad says that he's got a good relationship with her. I'm the nicest guy you're trying to encounter in every situation. Tad tells investigators that Elizabeth had had an anxiety attack, a panic attack, and that she came down to see him because he's really good at calming her down.

“Honestly, don't remember whether I got up in trying to calm her down and put my hand on her arm”

around her shoulder or something like that. He would have been my left hand doing that. And that is the closest that we got, Peterie. The closest? Well, detectives then confront him with Elizabeth's version. And his story suddenly evolves. She glanced at she, you grabbed her both of her wrist and were kind of close to her face and you were saying,

"It's going to be all right. You need to calm down." Would that be accurate to say that you possibly have been very possible?

Right. My intention is always not to do that.

But if you say my dad, that was how she remembered it. Then I would. It is absolutely possible to be possible for that. Tad can't seem to be able to describe clearly what happened a week ago in his classroom. He's evasive and he keeps changing the story. It's a sentence that he did the moment and trying to console her.

“Is it possible that you could have grabbed her and kissed her?”

And it is not possible that I could have kissed her. It's possible that I could have hugged her. Did you hug her? I don't. I wish I could tell. Have you hug her? You have hug her in the past, though, right? In that count of a sudden, you can't control and grab her with it.

And then, Tad come and says Elizabeth continued to text him despite the no contact order, but claims he ignored them. Would there be an issue with you showing us text that you got from Beth? Do you have your phone? I've got my phone. I don't have those texts. Still on my phone. From yesterday.

Why not? Because I got rid of it. Because I might be uncomfortable. Hey, here's the same thing. It looks like you know you're covering something up or hiding something. All of a sudden, Tad starts shivering. He starts shaking. I mean, he looks like he's about to cry.

That's the cover of he is covering something up. There has not been any kind of a physical relationship kind of thing.

Now, with my end, I'm not saying when I'm out. I'm out. I'm not joking with you guys. I've never touched another one.

And then, as we got ready to close, he gets emotional to a point that he's almost crying and says that he really didn't know what to expect coming in to the interview and he thought that he might be arrested.

“Honestly. And I've done anything. I've done nothing wrong. But I came in here not knowing if I was going to check it.”

I'm not afraid that I've ever been in my life. I just got the impression from both of them that they were lying. So, why were they lying? Why were they being so evasive with their answers if there wasn't something going on between the two of them? Meanwhile, Elizabeth's dad hadn't been told by the school of this apparent kiss between a teacher and his daughter. And he has no idea there's an investigation underway.

How did you find out? I get this phone call. Did he have a call and talked to you about your daughter? I said, you'll wear the school was investigating your daughter into allegations that some inappropriate behavior with a teacher. And he says, "Which daughter?" He said, "Sir, you're trying to tell me that you don't know anything about this. I said, "Sir, I don't even know what you're talking about."

So he does what any dad would do. He calls his daughter. I said, "Is there something you want to tell me?" She said, "Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Some girl lied. It's nothing. Nothing happened." And I said, "This doesn't sound like nothing happened." He is furious. Elizabeth's father hires an attorney Jason Wattley to write a letter to the school to put them on notice.

It was not a nice letter. That said, "Get this man away from this job, Relles."

no contact order. You say you thought he was falsely accused. Yes.

100%. We'd cry about it, cry about it. Then I would always tell him, "It's okay, though,

because you haven't done anything wrong. If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to be afraid of." The question that a lot of people have. How did she not know? Something was up.

“I think a lot of people didn't know. So you never suspected anything.”

Did he talk about his wife ever? He'd tell me how perfect she was and how much he loved her. And how terrible I was. If it weren't for me, he wouldn't be in this. Basically, just you existing was the problem. Yeah, because he can't help himself. How is God going to get out of this? He makes a really surprising decision on how to handle this problem. And that's when the bottom fell out of our world. People wonder why the heck would he

chunk it all away this way? I called it a tech-y, but I said, "How do you found to have Calvin Jet?" He said, "Mr. Calvin's can't be found anywhere." Thomas was last seen around 8 a.m. Monday. The 15-year-old is now believed to be in the

“custody of 50-year-old Ted Cummins. And he said he believed she isn't danger.”

There is a lot of pressure on Ted at this point. There are rumors about his behavior. His wife obviously is asking a lot more questions now because he was suspended without pay. And suddenly,

Jill is starting to suspect that something is very wrong here. He always made a coffee the night

before we would go to bed. And he started telling me how to make the coffee. And I was like, "Why are you telling me this?" And I was in tears because I thought that he was a Friday was going to go to jail. And I said, "You didn't do anything wrong, but promise me you won't hurt yourself." He said, "I promise I won't." He wasn't in under a criminal sense, big, big trouble at that point. No, you're talking about a misdemeanor. I mean, he probably wouldn't have been able to teach anyone

where outside of that, but he would never really set foot in jail, so. Ted has now been stuck at home for five weeks. He's waiting to hear his fate from the police. I questioned the sheriff about that. And he said that they had to be sure about all of it before

they ruined a man's career in life, you know, because he'd never been in any trouble.

He wasn't getting paid. We were embarrassed. We wanted just to get it all over with. And then him to be given his job back and things that he normally can. His opportunities to very easily groomed this child were coming to an end. For Ted, it was either move on or make a plan and he might have planned. It's Monday, March 13th of 2017. Tag posts on his Instagram. Beautiful data start.

Send an message there, maybe? Ted tells his wife that morning, I've got a job interview with one of my old bosses. Because he needs a job. He needs a job. He must take her car. She's okay with that. He goes to the jail station where we have a more video to fill her car up with gas. Around the same time Elizabeth packs her bags. Then she wakes her sister Sarah with a very ominous message.

“And she said, "I'm not back. By six, you need to combine me and call the cops."”

So I'm like, okay, and I went back to sleep. The Thomas house has a security camera outside. So you can actually see Elizabeth that morning walking out of her house carrying her bags, getting into her friend's car. She says she took her to Shownies and dropped her off around eightish that morning. Tag drives to the Shownies. Elizabeth gets in the car and by nine a.m. those two are on the road.

The jail starts calling him around noon. She can't reach him. Call is going straight to voicemail. Takes messages. Obviously not being answered. And she starts to be a little concerned. And that night, Elizabeth's father realizes he hasn't heard from her.

It rang and rang and rang and went straight to voicemail.

“That was a little bit odd, so I texted her. You know, you're in big trouble.”

Well, usually when I did that, I would have a call back with in about 45 seconds of the most. Nothing. So Anthony Thomas checks in with police. Anthony mentions to the reporting deputies that we need to check. Find out where tag comments is the on-call detective. He doesn't put the two together or anything.

He's significant.

Tag never came home. So when his wife Jill gets home from work that night, she finds a letter from

tag. Jill does not call the police that night. But by the next morning, she does. He's ran away. Who's running away? Can't. She tells police about that note he left behind. Jill, I'm so sorry. I'm all my way to Virginia, sir. My V. D. JJ, just the same, including my mind about this crap.

I'm not letting the way. I'll be back. Don't call the police. Don't think I've read the house. I'm guilty and I'm not. I love you. And I'll call you soon. Please forgive me. I was just in total shock when I read it. I didn't know what to think.

I'm sorry you're going through this.

But, you know, sometimes life, those are some curveballs. Yeah. And this is another thing we've been worried about honey. She told me he said, "You know what I want?" I said, "This is $4,000. This is what I want. This is what I want."

“And what he just does is both of his guns are down. And what else is out?”

In the note, he said he was going to Virginia or DC. If you do this long enough, you know that people try to defer an attention away from something more than likely he's going the opposite direction. Meanwhile, Anthony Thomas is now worried. He still hasn't heard from his daughter Elizabeth. The next day, I was still frantically looking for. I called him to take the back. I said,

"How he found had Cummins yet. The CV knows anything." He said, "Mr. Cummins can't be found anywhere. He's nowhere to be found." There was no bad in my mind that they were dead. That was the moment that I knew. I knew that it was all along. You're not married as someone for 31 years. And then this happened and your whole life has

started upside down. Everything that you thought was going to be for your future is no more.

“First thing I did was hit my knees and prayed.”

The 15-year-old is now believed to be in the custody of 50-year-old Ted Cummins. Now the TBI and FBI are on the lookout. This now becomes a massive investigation, because you've got a 50-year-old teacher who is just taken off with his 15-year-old student and nobody knows where they are. I was incredibly concerned. If he's honored, there could only be one purpose that would be

sort of the last day. He absolutely knew that law enforcement would be on his tail quickly. Investigators say they have no clue where the two could be. TBI officials fear they could be anywhere in the country. He went to extraordinary measures to make sure he wouldn't be tracked. There have been no credible sightings. The TBI says it's received over 80 tips,

but they still don't know where Thomas could be. But you talk about an absolute bomb going off. Ted Cummins, he's the one. No one could believe it. If you do know this whole time that everyone, I mean, like all of America, was looking for you. This door could have ended with they found her body. We wanted to take a new look at this month-long crime spree that dominated headlines and put

everything we've learned together in one place.

I don't know. I'm not joking if you guys want to say that. I've never touched another world.

Hey, threatened to kill everyone in the commune. If they didn't start bending to his will, and he said, "I have enough bullets to kill them all." She looked at him as a protector. She was in love with him, and she believed that he loved her back. You're thinking about all the bad things that could happen. Because you were worried he would kill her. Correct.

He was plotting to get her out of the country. I see. He's planning to do this by kayak. Like you're kidding me, right? I don't mean anything. Right. I've done nothing wrong. He said, "Am I in trouble?" And I said, "Tad, you just have arrested about an FBI."

Ted Cummins. He was a teacher at this school. It's here. A student walked in on Cummins and Elizabeth kissing in his classroom and facing charges of sexual contact with a minor accused of kidnapping his 15-year-old student. The two of them hit the road and then they banished.

There have been no credible sightings of these individuals.

The FBI is now involved in the search. I'd never worked a kidnapping case

that was so immediate and that had so much immediate attention as this one did. Cult 911, if you see them. The TBI issued an amber alert for the Elizabeth Thomas. I remember everybody's phone. Everybody's lit up. I'd never seen an amber alert that I know of. And we look down and it's all Elizabeth Thomas.

“It's not every day. Do you have a teacher, student, amber alert?”

You know, an older gentleman and a younger girl. Once I learned that she had been taken, I just went from zero to a hundred. Like, what's he gonna do to her? What's he gonna do with her? The TAB that I know is not the TAB that the world is seeing now. It was a wonderful person. He was the protector of our family. He was the rock, the epitome of hero dad.

No matter what we were going through, he was the one you could call and fix it. No matter what. He was my best friend for 31 years now. I spoke with TAB Cummins' wife Jill back in 2017 while he was still on the run and was just struck by how blindsided she was by what she was living through.

We've never even been a part for a vacation or for any amount of time, a work trip, or anything.

And so when he left, I was just in TAB a shock. Keep packed, every coat he had, keep packed. All of his underwear, which was like 10-12 pairs. The day after TAB Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas vanished, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and the FBI, "Hey, his wife Jill, a visit at their home."

She was helpful in the entire time and just an amazingly strong person.

“She let us go through every part of the house. We were looking for clues, right?”

Is there anything he left behind that would point us to the right direction? We learned that you had taken two handguns with and that ramped up our concern. Jill tells the police that her husband filled a prescription right before he left and that he took the medicine with him. The only erectile dysfunction tablet can't be proven to work up to 36 hours.

Get re-up to see Alice early. You almost had like a double dose with him at the time. There's only one reason that you would take that medicine, so we knew we had to find her. Investigators looked into common activities in the days before he vanished. Tongue to his wife, we were able to locate him at the local Walmart here. The day before he left, Cummins strolls the aisles, looking at women's hair dye.

We learned that he had taken like a payday loan and he falsified the loan documents saying

“he had some assets that he did not have. They poured in $4,500 in cash based on that.”

Knowing that that was what he had in your mind or you thinking he's not going to last that long out there. It tells us that he's trying to stay off the grid because he doesn't want to use any credit card because then we can track it. Tad Cummins tried to elude a thorease to a variety of methods. Cummins engaged in the daring cat and mouth style run to keep him getting caught.

We got his cell phone number to try to ping it to see if we could figure out where it was. The last pain was at a bridge in Alabama and then it goes dark. Both took their phones. He oversaw them throwing those phones into the river. He disabled the GPS on the vehicle that he was driving. He stopped in a quick morning bought a map of the United States like a physical map to travel

and took every opportunity to stay home back road.

He had some sleeping bags and basically camping gear.

Sometimes they even slept in the car. He had stolen license plates, stuff other cars, and he had traded plates. So the trail goes cold in Alabama. It could be anywhere. You were a fugitive on the run with a 15-year-old.

Work and you go. How well have you planned this? My feeling was that he had burned every bridge he had there. He was not coming back. You were thinking about all the bad things that could happen.

Correct.

“On day five, with no confirmed sightings,”

investigators hold the press conference.

At this time, we are going to open the floor to Jill Cummins. The decision was made to get Jill. See if she'll be willing to go on camera and reach out to town. To that end, let me speak directly to my husband. And this is not you. Was that hard? All those scrutinizing eyes.

Live? Yeah, it was really hard. Your family wants their poppy back. Please do the right thing. You turn yourself into the police. I felt like if there was a chance that he would see it and it would make a difference.

Then even if it was outside my comfort zone, I had to do it anyway. So I did. And then Elizabeth's father makes a public plea to the daughter he calls Izzy. Izzy, please, get away from him, get away from him, run somewhere, tell somebody. Take another look at their pictures.

The photographs that were used, and it wasn't intentional. They made her look like a mature young lady when she wasn't. And there were questions. Some people in the community wondering if the decision to leave was mutual. I think that she did go willingly.

“I don't think he forcedfully took her. I think it was her decision, but”

she wasn't all enough to make that decision. A person's search history can reveal a lot of information. Tad searches reveal a very clear intention. I remember one that was what states allow teenage marriage. It was fairly obvious to us that he was trying to legitimize his crime.

And not long after they disappear, the word "wife" is added to Elizabeth's Instagram profile. I was a little bit sick when I saw that. Receiving tips from all across the country, which is great because frankly, we have no idea where Tad Cummins has Elizabeth Thomas at the Sour. We had over 1,000 tips coming in.

Every single tip that comes in to our tip line, someone will call that person back and we will run it down.

“We never went home, only to just get a few hours of sleep each night,”

and then we were back in the command post the next day working on this thing.

Finally, after 16 days, there is a solid lead.

A person working a midnight shift at a super eight motel decided to type in, Tad Cummins in his system, and boom, it popped up. That slip-up gave authorities the lead they needed. We were very excited. This was proof of life. Breaking news, a confirmed sighting of Amber Alert suspect Tad Cummins and missing child

Elizabeth Thomas in Oklahoma City. An employee at super eight check the national database and soon discovered that the pair two weeks earlier checked into a room with a single bed in Oklahoma City. Staff here telling investigators come and ask for directions to the local Walmart. We pull a video from Walmart.

Well, this news surveillance video about a Walmart two days after Cummins left with Elizabeth. TBI investigators say Thomas appears to have died her hair red, while Cummins darkened his hair. But this sighting you see right here is from two weeks ago, meaning they could be anywhere in the country tonight.

We were consistently a week by and she was fine a week ago, but how is she now, which kind of ramped up the pressure as well. Police are wondering whether Tad likes to stay at super eight motels, and if perhaps there's a pattern here that might reveal where they've been and maybe where they're going.

We basically started doing some really old school gum shoe detective where we contacted super

eight's corporate. Then we ask, "I want every hotel that's a super eight. They sent us back a list and it's over five or six hundred hotels, and we just co-call every one of them." We called hundreds of hotels, you know, across the country, and we got to hit it. That hit came from a super eight in Guyman, Oklahoma. Guyman is west of Oklahoma City. Now once again Cummins didn't try to hide his identity when checking in.

So he used his own ID twice. That's correct in. Were they staying like one night, two night, kind of what was the pattern that you were seeing?

Of course we pull a receipt to see where they're buying food and snacks and stuff like that.

“Some lubrications and KWGLE, and so that furthered our, okay, we've got to find her.”

That may be worried even more. Friends and family members, but missing Murray County teams say they hope we don't forget about Elizabeth Thomas. We'd have all the media coverage that we could ask for and then it did start to die off. Once her face is out of the media, there was a very little chance we could get her back.

That's when I did the Green Ribbon campaign.

Donna Simler has been hanging those ribbons around the square.

Green is Elizabeth's favorite color. So Elizabeth could see that your town wants you to come home. Chandler Anderson, a former coworker of Cummins, also wanted to help ring Elizabeth home by offering a reward. And so we're hoping that $10,000 will get someone to talk or tell us where Elizabeth is. Someone knows where she is.

But at this point, investigators don't know where Elizabeth is, but at least they have a better idea of the direction they're at.

They went up here in the panhandle here of Oklahoma with a trajectory that we kind of focused on

was whether probably going west even more. But the problem we ran into with Chad is that he kind of looks like every man traveling with her. It almost looks like a dad traveling with his daughter. In Nebraska, another possible sighting. This picture is from County Police Department in Nebraska. We're looking at it. I don't know about this one. The local police quickly discover it was one of many false leads.

And those false leads lead to false hopes for Jill. Despite what he's done, she wants her husband home. Everyone makes mistakes. This was a pretty big one and it's unexplainable. But, you know, everyone feels. It sounds like in some ways that you're still sort of defend him. You still. I do.

“I don't want myself to defend him. Why, after what he did to you?”

These still love him? Of course I love him. And I forgive him, honestly. It took these several weeks. But I do. But it doesn't mean I can ever trust him again. They've been gone for several weeks. When's the next time you find out some sort of clue as to where they are? It was Cortez Colorado. We got to hit there from Walmart. So now we're even further out. You know, it's almost this straight line across that you asked,

which was, you know, helping us immensely. But authorities are still days behind them. And they don't know that Tad comments has already made it to San Diego. And is planning to take a little bit out of the country by sea? I'm Brian, welcome Lord. As an experienced fisherman, it's easy to take a boat from here in the Mexico.

“No, it's not. You have to have the experience to take a boat out.”

You have to have the right boat. You have to have the right weather. You have to have the right skills and navigation. Otherwise, you're not going to make it. And comments plan only gets more absurd. He doesn't have an actual boat to navigate these waters. He's planning to do this by kayak. They had used $1,000 or so of their money to buy a kayak. I hate to use the word "comical" in a case like this. Like you're kidding me, right?

They tried to kayak out and around the border to elude law enforcement. They got out into several feet of water and the white caps. The Pacific Ocean was too much formed. He gets to a point like, "Look, if we don't turn around and go back, we're going back." They also dodged another bullet. They ran into a local police officer who had no idea who they were. My guy says, "You know, sure I'm glad you guys made it back okay." He says, "Right after you left,

they issued a small craft warning. I just wanted to make sure you guys got back okay." I hope you guys have a good day and this walks on. After such a close call, it's time for plan B. Going completely off the grid to the peace and love of a commune. But when the whole country is looking for you, disappearing is harder than you think. Tat Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas have been gone for three weeks. They've traveled

So he decides if they hide in the wilderness and they can totally be off the grid,

“that's where they should go next. One of the things they did early on is they bought a tablet”

and they would connect the free Wafa and they would do searches for places to go out west and California. They googled the Black Bear commune. A documentary called "Commion was made about the Black Bear Ranch." My slogan at the time was "free land for free people." Everyone needed to come together, live together, sleep together, eat together, whatever everything had to be done together to unite people. They start the long drive to Black Bear Ranch, but they get lost. They're running out of gas and

money when they come to Cecilville, a tiny town of just 50 people. Cecilville is a really remote

rural community, basically a center of the wilderness, northern California.

It's not a good place to blend in. Everybody knows everybody in every car here, so to think you're going to come out in the wilderness and escape is not just not going to happen. At that point in time, since they were going to be around people, they had to come up with a cover story. His cover story was, yeah, they were married. John and Joanna Castro were the names that he chose for them to go by. He said she was 23 and he was 40, they were married.

I lost her house in Dindra area from a fire they didn't have insurance on and they were just traveling around trying to make ends meet. It's a pretty elaborate story.

“Yeah, when I make contact with anybody, that's what they told them.”

In Cecilville, they met a young man, Griffin Barry. He worked at the local saloon in gas station.

They were from Colorado. He's like, yeah, we had a house fire and he say like, "Loss is job, they're just trying to start a new life." He helps now. Yeah, I put $15 in this tank. Griffin also suggested they go visit his neighbor, Pete, who might have work for them so they could earn money. Griffin showed up with this gentleman. I did not ever meet his wife. She was sitting in the car doing their makeup, but I didn't have any work at the moment.

Cummins in Elizabeth then continue on their way to Blackbeard Ranch, which is another two hours north.

“When I was covering the story in 2017, we went to Blackbeard Ranch.”

It was very difficult to find. And when we got there, the residents didn't want us to film with our cameras. They eventually agreed to allow us to film with their older phone and one of the residents named April Showers gave us a tour. We're an off-the-grade home-setting community. We don't have any television, radio, cell phone, internet. There's no contact with the outside world besides what comes in and out of a driveway.

The Cummins took the pair in, but over the next 10 days there were problems. The two didn't follow the work rules of the Cummins. They stayed in bed all day, and Tad insisted on carrying around a pocket knife for protection. So they didn't fit in here very well. No, they didn't. They didn't here very well. How did they leave? As the unanimous decision we didn't want them here at all.

And that we had to ask them to leave. He was very uncomfortable with Tad Cummins and he got very angry. They didn't go back down to Cecilville, and once again see Griffin Berry, the guy who helped them out. They needed some extra money, so he said, "Hey, I need some help. I'm leaving some rock. If you want to help, I'll pay you to do that." But that was like, I hope, yeah, I put him in the cabin. Can you show us the cabin in there? Yeah, for sure. So this is where they stayed.

So they were hungry. The girl got excited when I given some food. And her, you didn't really get to talk to her a whole lot. When I was trying to strike up a conversation, I picked them up in the morning. I was like, "What's your name?" And she was like, "Joana, it was almost with like an accident." Griffin just came back and said that this gentleman was back with his wife,

and that he put him up in the cabin down here. When Pete the neighbor finds out that they're back, he has a feeling, you know what?

I had remembered this news story about younger girl running off with an older man.

“Tomorrow marks three weeks since Thomas was left seen in Colombia.”

I googled it, and it certainly looked like the guy. Rain into Griffin and said, "Hey, these are people staying up in the cabin." I saw a photo of the guy and I was like, "That's definitely him." Then what did you guys decide to do? We've been called the police.

You get to tip that. They've been spotted in California. It came in late one night and on like day 37. The original call started coming in about nine o'clock at night. And so immediately we were like, "Okay, it's good definitely through the real deal." So we sent a SWAT team from Cisco County.

The SWAT team arrived in this campground about three o'clock in the morning. I remember radio and radio that the car was here, had Colorado plates. The plates came back stolen, but to the same make-and-modal vehicle that Tad comments was driving. The team parked their vehicles away the way so you went here doors closed. It was hard to see because it was so dark. We had a sniper to provide oversight up on the hillside.

We just kind of hunkered down a way to for daylight. The challenge for the SWAT team is police know that he's armed and they don't want to shoot out. The plan is to have Griffin lure them out of the cabin as safely as possible. I already had people everywhere, you know, but they were hitting our yellow a little bit.

“Like, "Hey, hey," I guess, you know, that's what ended up waking them up.”

And they both came out together. We sprung up from our cover positions. Immediately we ran down the hill, real loud, sure-sparmade getting on the ground. The nationwide manhunt for the teacher accused of kidnapping a 15-year-old student is over. That teacher is now under arrest as my student has been found okay. Hey, 15-year-old Tennessee girl, we will be reunited for a grateful family today.

We are beyond delighted towards really can express the feelings every have. How do you feel about Tad now?

After being gone for more than a month, Tad comments is finally apprehended with Elizabeth Thomas

in Northern California. Thursday, April 20th, shortly after 9.30 a.m., Mr. Cummings was taken into custody. It was just such a relief, thank God, she's all right.

“Frankly, in fact, that she was found alive is a miracle. This boy could have ended with”

they found her body. Elizabeth is flown back to Tennessee and taken to a safe house. When she walked out, she was just so tiny and just so frail. We were both utterly shocked when we saw her. Anthony Thomas relieved to have his daughter back. Sometimes she'll be happy and laughing and

back to the same old girl and then she'll be sometimes just in a field position crying. It's a roller coaster for her.

Donna says when Elizabeth first got home, she was still under common spell and upset about being

separated from him. She loved him, she was in love with him and she believed that he loved her back. She is in love with a man who is threatening her. Elizabeth was angry at us for a good while. I was in the guy in her mind that was going to put Tad away. She was still emotionally very much tied to this predator and had to be disconnected. When you guys were talking to Elizabeth, she didn't seem cooperative at first.

No, she was not. You know, and that's understandably so from her bandage point, Tad was something she could count on and then she lost that. She just was adrift. She had to be taken apart. Emotionally, he's by peace and put back together right. It was tough for her to conclude that she was a victim of Tad Cummins.

Just as it took time for him to groom her for exploitation, it took time for her to realize exactly what he had done to her. In her documentary, filmmaker Cheryl Nichols talks about her experience with her teacher. Like, I fell in love with my teacher when I was 16.

We were convinced that we were in love.

“It was hard for Cheryl to process that. The relationship she says she had with her teacher was actually”

not consensual. When I found all this out, I felt like this person who I really trusted in my life had completely bamboozled me. I struggled with really deeply low self-esteem for a really long time, in a way that it was difficult for me to function. Feeling like the entire world is looking at you in a negative light, like a home record or

a slut. I don't know how I would have survived if I didn't have therapy. There's a local therapist here that deserves immense praise for the work she did with Elizabeth.

When Elizabeth sat down with me for her first television interview, she'd already

undergone months of therapy, just trying to process all that she had been through. How do you feel about Tad now? I know he's a bad man. He only used me for one thing. Do you think he prayed on you? He did. And he manipulated me.

Why talk about what happened?

“I just think it's time to start speaking up and letting people know what to look for”

and letting them put down boundaries. Do you feel like people judge you? They do. A lot of them do. And they think that I'm a whore, they think that I like old men and that's not the case. A lot of people said which impurities me this day. She knew what she was doing.

Well, she's 15 and her 15-year-old heart is manipulated.

That is an easy way for people to put the blame back on the victim. I don't think it's the student's responsibility to be fending off sexual advances from adults. The car ride and where you ended up is a trip. It was not a trip. It was like a kidnapping kind of.

He told you you had to go. He said if he couldn't have me, he'd kill himself. Anytime you threaten himself, he threatened my family. I couldn't leave the car. I had to stay in the car with him at all times. Now it was an odd to be in a store without him.

He made me sleep naked and my clothes would be put somewhere else and he was a light sleeper. So if I moved, he'd be awake.

And I couldn't even use a bathroom at night without him having to stand right there.

He would follow you to the bathroom. At the hotel, I was shower every morning because I felt dirty and disgusting. The reality of Elizabeth's life on the run was that she was a victim of sexual assault every single day. I know we went to Aspen and then Grand Junction and then Utah. You guys got to San Diego and he took a kayak out.

Yeah, my hands got tired and not even halfway out. So he was making you paddle as well. Yeah, we were real paddling. And he kept billing and I just couldn't. Were you scared? I was terrified.

I mean, that is. That is about kept going down. Did you know this whole time all this is going on? But everyone, I mean, like all of America was looking for you. I saw it on Fox News one time in the hotel.

A man hunt is underway. And I remember it was a nationwide Amber alert. I knew it was for me. He called me as wife sometimes and he said that we were going to get married. That was going to live with him until I died.

Was that a choice? Not really. It was made for me.

“For people who don't understand why was it you felt like you didn't have a choice?”

If I made my choice and I tried to leave, he would hurt me. Were you afraid he would kill you? A lot of the time. The day that the police show up. I came out of the cabin and it was early morning.

And then all you hear is hands up, it's over. Did dad say something to you? Yeah, he said not to tell them that we have done anything. He said whatever I say you go with it. Until the very end, it seems Tad Cummins was still trying to manipulate Elizabeth.

But now he was going to have to face those investigators who had tried to clear across the country and they had a lot of questions for him. One point during the interview, he said, in my enthrall role. And I said, Tad, you've just been arrested by the FBI. Tad Cummins is in federal custody in California.

He was arrested. They are following a nationwide search.

Now this is going to be the first time that authorities have a chance to interrogate him.

“Tad, learned myself and Marcus in her mutant.”

What was his demeanor? It was almost like a relief for him that is over with now. Guys like him, they want to tell their story. They want to show you how smart they are and how awesome they are. Now he didn't want to tell about the criminal actually you committed it all in the way.

And he walked us through the whole thing. It was like storytelling session with Tad. He just kind of rambled on about being a father figure for and like shit. He was a savior to her and was helping her leave a bad situation. He tells us he just wants to go home.

He wants to get this behind. He means ready to move on.

“I don't think it registered in his mind until we were halfway through the interview that,”

you know, what you did with wrong. Investigators already suspect that Lisbon Thomas had been sexually assaulted by comments. But he refuses to say that at the beginning of the interview. He says that things would not be sexual between us that wouldn't happen. The investigators questioning Tad comments were determined to get this admission out of him.

They're telling him, look, we've got all sorts of information on you. We know exactly what you did. He got very defensive at that time. He started kind of backing up a little bit.

And he finally gets to a point where he becomes emotional.

And we ask him, did you have sex with her? And in a trembling voice, he said, of course we need that. During that interview, he did say she's a very sexual kid. Now, just that sentence alone, he tells you that he knew that she was a child, referred to her as a kid, completely recognizing that what he was doing was sexually exploiting her.

And it wasn't as shared with us that comments even plied her with alcohol in order to have sex. Once he did, ultimately confess, and he started crying, like, oh man, like I'm calling. I'm busted. You don't think he was sorry for what he did.

“I think that the tears that happened to the interview was because now my life is over.”

And then he automatically starts switching to, okay, how am I going to rebuild my life with Jill and the girls? Comment's called his wife, Jill. In the television interview at the time, Jill described that Jill House call. He told me he was sorry, and he told me he loved me, and please forgive him. I course went into a rage of, do you know what you've done to me?

Jill confronted him about his criminal behavior. I said, well, did you sleep with her? Any figure if I did? I'm not dead, I want any details. If I knew the truth, I just wanted to hear it from him to me. Not surprisingly, Jill ultimately divorced Tad comments.

Another breaking news alert, a hearing just wrapped up were Tad comments. Tad comments, he was charged across the state lines with a minor for the purpose of having sex. An obstruction of justice and that was for throwing the phones to a nude line for a sentence to river. So knowingly doing that and destroying that evidence, there were numerous tries by Mr. Commons to go to trial, ultimately he decided to plead guilty.

At the sentencing hearing, Elizabeth Thomas finally has her day in court. You had to see him in court again, and I made that choice, and I wanted him to know that I'm not his puppet anymore. She was physically shaking in court, physically shaking. We had to block her view of him at just a look at him. Was more than she could take. Elizabeth Thomas wrote an amazing victim impact statement.

Mr. Commons, what you did to me is unspeakable. All you were was a man who wanted sex, and you manipulated me, and used me just for that. Elizabeth went on to say, you saw a broken girl who was lonely, scared, and traumatized. You made her feel safe and loved because you saw what she needed and made her believe you would be her protector. Good evening, everyone. It is a crime that Judge called despicable, and now the

man behind it will spend the next 20 years in prison. I don't believe for a second that you could ever really do justice. In this case, because Elizabeth can't go back and change her life,

she'll always be known as the girl who left with her teacher.

Though Commons admitted his guilt, he said there was also someone else to blame.

is he saying that I'm the devil that really bothered her. I said, he's not calling

“you the devil sweetheart. He is just a coward who is blaming anybody but himself.”

I blame myself a lot, but now I know that he's at fault, and he can say all day long, the devil made him do it, but he is the devil.

While the scars from her ordeal may never fully heal, Elizabeth is in a very different place today.

It has been like watching a miracle take place. In 2017, when I first started covering the story, I tried to talk to Penny love the principle of the Koleoca unit school about what happened with TED comments and Elizabeth Thomas. Can you just tell us why you didn't call authorities right away when you found out about the TED-cubbing incident? You have any comment? Even though it took a week for the school to call

police after TED-cubbing was caught kissing Elizabeth, the principal spared no time calling police on us. The Thomas family sued the Murray County Board of Education and the case was settled for a reported $650,000. The Board of Education saying the settlement does not constitute an admission that it violated any duty or obligation owned to Thomas.

“And remember that $10,000 reward that TED-cubbing's former colleague put up,”

well the man who called police was able to collect it. Griffin very accepted the $10,000 in reward money this afternoon on the steps of the court house. Jason Watley and his paralegal Donna Simmar represented the Thomas family but they had actually

never met Elizabeth until after her ordeal. It wasn't easy for Elizabeth to accept them.

She had no idea who I was. She later told me though that she didn't like either me or Jason. But Donna didn't let that stop her from trying to connect with Elizabeth. Jason Watley credits Donna for stepping in and filling a void. The child needed stability the child needed direction and in large part Donna provided that Donna showed her unconditional love. It's another daughter of a way to ship. Donna is like a best friend. You guys are pretty tight.

Everyone needs a Donna. I love Elizabeth just like she were my own. She always says everybody needs a Donna in her life but I don't think she realizes how much I needed her. And when I talk to Elizabeth I ask her what she hoped her future would look like. What are your dreams for your life? To have a family and protect them and not let them lay down the road like I was and make them have a better life.

Elizabeth is now 21. It's been five years since she was taken by Ted Cummins. She is married to the love of her life and then she got pregnant with her son. Spencer is his name. I thought she was lost. I thought she was gone. That turned out not to be true. It has been like watching a miracle take place. These are the outcomes that we have law enforcement love to say. I'm sure she has days

where she struggles but being able to flourish through those traumas and to have a family and to have some sort of normal life. It's great to see. For other young girls like yourself what advice do you have for them? Put down boundaries. Don't let someone push you around and make you do something you don't want to do and say something to someone if you feel like something's wrong when you look back at everything that happened. It's a bad place but now I'm in a better one.

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