3. Jacqueline Gallagher & Tracey Wylde

The weird book contains references to sexual violence and murder, which some listeners might find upsetting.

“"You know, I'm not doing no. Just listen. An animal."”

That's Alice, mum of Jacqueline Galliker, whose body was found in June 1996 in a lay-by alongside a busy chill carriageway that ran between Glasgow and Embarten. The fifth murder of a young woman involved and prostitution in Glasgow in less than five years. "I've lived that she's taken abysmal, but nothing, nothing serious." "You know what I mean?"

"Oh, go at that, oh, well, she was there, but she was there." "But then they didn't matter what she was with she was a hooker." "She didn't deserve to die, they were she dead."

"Just left there, wrapped in a car."

"And then somebody stayed there, hand with up." "What a truly horrendous image for a mother to be left with."

“"What a truly horrendous image for a mother to be left with."”

"Jacklyn or Jackie as she was also known as suffered catastrophic injuries, fractures to her skull, cheek and jaw bones." "Most mortum showed the 26-year-old to be hit over and over with a hammer and then strangled." "Just over five foot tall and weighing around seven stone, Jacqueline sustained 46 injuries to her head and make a loan. And despite a core case, no one has ever been convicted of her murder."

"It's been hell, I'm not even looking myself, it's people bought and buying it." "I'm really heart, I've lost my daughter and these circumstances. And I just wish to go with that bind to this pit of a prolonged time." Jackie's murder came at a time when technology was limited. When many of the women had used the bewir book to help keep each other safe.

"Today's before CCTV, a lot of the gunels at the time used to be recorded. The registration numbers of cars, colour client was acting suspicious under their reputation for violence."

“"But should Alice still have hope of finding Jackie's killer? What did the family of Tracy Wildfink?”

She was choked to death in her Glasgow flat with Justice finally served more than 20 years later." I mean, we go from, but then we just sat in the house and we brought the bewir book to me. "Aque, the paper egg comes, it's the like closet and it's your own stuff." "So we used to do stuff for that and I get time of skill because we used to make all these excuses. I had to help her stuff and so it was just the best stuff I've ever done."

"And I, do you think, "Oh, and I'm of age, we can go and have a drink together and then just never hunt."

"It's like the one who crashed them in the consumer's office." "I'm Collette McGonagall." "And I'm Callum McQuid." "And this is the Weir book." Jackie's life began full of promise at the centre of a close and loving family.

"That's... that's just clean there." "You've got a big family." "Oh..." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

"I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

"I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

"I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

"I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

"I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

"I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes." "I see what you mean with the eyes."

“That's Alice talking us through the photo frames dotted around the living room of her paisley home.”

The smiling faces offer family stretch across every available surface. The laughter frozen in time, perfectly lit by the spring sunlight streaming in through the window. The other voice you hear gently correcting Alice about the timing of a childhood photo is Jackie Stepfather Robert. He's considered man who looks protectively at Alice while he chimes in with the odd comment, offering his cam support from the couch on the other side of the room. You also hear Alice lamenting Jackie's life being caught short before she might have had children of her own.

The hint of unease about Jackie's relationship at the time. There was she was very her boyfriend, and I know that he'd take drops of phone to you. When I was a teenager, I'd say people would say, "Oh, you Jackie's mother?" He said, "Oh, that guy is... he put her in a cabs to go up to Houston, Yvonne. He got in the bus once.

“I visited the place that the girl was going in, and he says, "Jacklyn, then Yvonne, you go out.”

You know what I mean?" And then the boy friend was shouting, "You get out here." "I didn't even want you to go out." Alice was telling me that, "Doesn't place this really girl's rent for a meeting place?"

"No, she always can have found out, but I got to see what Jacklyn is like, you know what I mean?"

She said, "She's got all, you know?" That's Alice they're seeing. She doesn't believe her daughter joined other girls on the drag through choice. She says, "Jackie's boyfriend would put her into taxi into Glasgow City Center, known as a town by locals, to make money on the streets, to feed his own drug habit." But she did it out of fear. Robert also said, "Alice, so first hand, how to protect if the other girl was on the drag, where over Jackie?" "Oh, Ms. She was a lovely girl, and she just did their makeup."

She didn't even let it go. You know what I mean? Going back through the different archives, a few of the girls that she was with were seen that she wasn't. Street-wise, as such, she was young, she was, you know, and that was the picture that you had, ever. When the girl said that, she says, "She's been away early, that night and life jacket. You know what means she's new? She says, "I'm hot, she says because I wish I'd been there with her." And I would have, she would have seen who it was. She was a girl who was well-liked by everyone who knew her. The sort friends wanted to look after and wanted to be a render, and felt guilty for leaving her on her own that night.

You mentioned as well about a girl that had been with Jacqueline earlier that night. What did she say to you about, you know, the kind of freedom of mind that she was in, the mood that she was in, what was happening in Jacqueline's life at that time? No, that didn't look that. You know, nothing really. I'd been up in that sort of the girls.

She said, "Oh, Jacqueline, she was a great last thing." She said, "Oh, she always convinced she was, she says, "Bad, I'll make up in that one."

“And she says, "She was always lovely dress, you know, and she says, "No, we should remember that she's doing this blues."”

And she says, "A sister." "Oh, it had some of the blues. She'll go, "She says, "Maybe, ma'am, she gave me." "She said, "She didn't, she didn't. It's pure, this is the last season." "Oh, it's pure way, she's in Jacqueline without a doubt." "You know, she says, "She said, "She didn't want to go out that night."

"And she's shown, you better go out, you better go out here." "You know, it's terrible. It's just a nightmare."

"And she says, "Jacky, always had a magnetic quality about her, that people wanted to protect her."

" Ever since she was born." "I love the last thing. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. "I love my eyes, she was beautiful."

"You know, it's not twinkling eyes."

“"You should be always bubbly, you could see about the industry."”

"And this boy knew that we'd be going for six, six, you know." "Fairness, absolutely."

Another image for never marked on a mother's mind.

"We girl with jet black hair, ponytail swinging side to side, her whole life in front of her." Alice tells us this while looking out the large window in her sitting room. Perhaps imagining little Jackie bouncing along the street. "With a sparkling personality who's celebrated life." "Exciousness, well before Christmas, she went to decorations up."

"I'm gonna put her to put the mother in the house." "A October because she was born in boxing there." "She loved Christmas, she loved the excitement." "You know, even when she was an adult." "You know, in episode 4 apartment, maybe we didn't have to put all the day, even in the toilet."

"You know, she just loved, she didn't, she loved life."

"She could've always been a bit singing."

"You know, she was a happy thing." "She was there, she was great." "Her sister's not brothers." "They're devastated." "You know what I mean?"

"You know what, that's for Charlotte's sense." "That's me 52, Jacqueline with 54." "Necania believe all the years of past." "You know, as I've just flew in like that." "It's an outmail, really, yes."

Alice and Robert, they are talking about the impact of Jackie's death on the family.

All the celebrations missed, the milestones never met.

Can away by one devastating act of violence. Alice says, "The way she found out made it an even cooler blow." "I was to meet my daughter, my other daughter." "And it was that that was that the hot summer day." "And I was getting ready to meet my other daughter."

"And then I got a phone call for boyfriend." "She's getting bad news to tell me." "And he told me with a phone." "You see him?" "And I passed out."

"And then got myself together." "And then it'd be up there house." "And the police were over there." "And the building didn't know who I was." "But you can't get up here, you can't get up."

"And I see this is my daughter."

“"And then that's how I found out through a phone call."”

"It was terrible." "And of course the police were comming to tell me." "But see that, you know." "But it just didn't seem right." "You know, it was like if I was a being there trans." So how did this quiet family-orientated young woman end up the victim of such a frenzy attack?

As Alice says, she'd been working on the streets with a friend that night, but had ended up alone. She picked up by someone, and how did she end up so far away from the city centre? "And quickly I managed that this was an anomaly, a redeemed woman from a good family. We had gotten and vagled in the world of dogs and found a cell-force of cell-abolitive feeder habit. But this was a major inquiry at the time, but again drew a bit of a blank because of the people that they're having to deal with.

So from the speech officers that one of the things they try and do is track down all the men that use sex workers. But you know, it's all about hundreds. Someone would travel on distances, you know, to pick up the girls. And again, it was a days before CCTV. So they're relying on a lot of the girls that I used to record the registration numbers of cars.

She looked on to her client was acting suspicious on their reputation for violence. But again, it was another wonder which basically helped with all the silence. You know, they're pleas from encountering the same problems. Like her work, this is a lack of loneliness of people to come forward.

“You remember Norman by now, we've heard from him a couple of times, over a steaming cup of coffee in a city centre cafe.”

He tells us he covered the first days of the investigation as part of his job as a crime reporter when there was no clear suspect. I mentioned again of how the girls would record the details of car registrations of the most violent clients in an effort to steer clear of danger. That was commonly known as the Beweir book. He's also talking to us about some of the difficulties gathering information that technologically wasn't what it is now, that people who Jackie might have spent time with on the streets in Glasgow were understandably scared to come forward.

Some of these girls are unreliable.

That's because of the lifestyle they led, you know, they were driven by drugs.

“They would make arrangements with them to get a statement and they wouldn't turn up. That's like the worst thing I could say about any of them.”

They'll try to help and they'll have stories and they'll have lives and they'll have families. That's Stuart Hall, who you heard from an episode one. He had an important role in the Emma Caldwell murder case. He's also the officer who confiscated the notes the girls kept on dangerous clients. That Beweir book we just mentioned, the one that's now missing. It will come back to what he thinks may have happened to the book in a later episode.

For now he's talking to us more generally about how difficult it could be for officers to gather statements or even track down eyewitnesses. Although he doesn't blame the girls for being a bit hesitant. I worked in Dumbarton as a detective, sometimes Clyde Bank. There were no sex workers there as far as I knew another community contact with an intel I worked on as inquiry. And I must say, there wasn't one I didn't like. Everyone had a story. Everyone was a human.

I felt sorry for them all. I wished things had been better for them all.

I can always speak for myself and there were treated the same as any other witness would be.

So unlike the cases we've taken you through already, Diane Mackinale, Marjorie Roberts and Emma Caldwell. There were no clear lines of inquiry in the early days of this investigation. No clear suspects. Again, to put this into context, Jackie's death was the fourth similar murder in Glasgow in less than five years. As we heard from charity worker Ann McOven earlier, it was a real sense of feed in the city, especially for those working on the streets. The woman does feel Jackie's death. It's bark a bit of a change in attitudes.

As the number of murders accumulated by a user term, there was an effort more efforts were done to help the woman. There was a drop in centre set up.

“Do you hear the red light dissect whether women could go for medical advice or health advice or something?”

Well, I believe that the women began keeping a list of clients, which there were suspicious of or who were very particular being violent or for style or aggressive or unpleasant or simply just a bit weird. And understanding was a book, kept this drop in centre and maybe elsewhere, that the police could access as well. That was a sense of changing, you know, there was a bit more proactive to help the woman. There was up to the point where Jackie and Caldwell were under their sole and element of well.

It's their choice, what can we do about it? It's not our fault. After the Jackie's mother, there was more of our coalition that more needs to be done for the woman. We started to see that over the years with all the women going on to hit method on programs, get help with a reduction. Just some of the people who go to get about help, medical advice and about assistance. And it was a sense that the women would be working more together and over the benefit of their own safety, you know.

It would help a specialized drop in centre and better access to method on programs. It does seem like the authorities were starting to sit up and take notice. But from what we hear from Norman, the women still felt a need to take the lead in keeping each other safe. To note down the details of the most dangerous or worrying clients in a book kept in a drop in centre, beside the city's red light district. But we're a book. And interestingly, Norman seems to suggest the police also had access to its pages at the time.

“But would any of this actually help find Jackie's killer?”

She'd been lasting alive at the corner of Bothwell Street and Blindwood Street in the city's red light area. So road checks were set up nearby, but officers questioned the men who hung around the red light district and Jackie's former clients. They also spoke with the women who worked alongside her. Also set up close to the grass fair during a stretch of motorway at bowling where her body was discovered just hours later. And in the weeks following, more than 500 people were interviewed by police, but still with no clear leads.

Much of the early investigation at the time focused on the curtain Jackie's body had been wrapped in. It was pretty distinctive, homemade on a sewing machine with a light purple pink and green swirling pattern.

And detective leading the inquiry at the time, the detective chief inspector, Jeanette Joyce, said it was crucial evidence.

But a glimmer of hope was to emerge for Jackie's family five years later. In 2001, a man would be arrested after an unexpected breakthrough. A sample of George Johnson's DNA was matched with traces found on Jackie's clothing. The gathered following his involvement in a fatal crash, a woman involved in prostitution had died in the collision, Johnson's passenger. And in 2004, he would be back in the dog this time accused of Jackie's murder.

What was the experience like of setting through that trial? I think that's all I have to say.

“I don't know what the truth is, but I don't know what the truth is.”

I don't know what the truth is.

I don't know what the truth is, but I don't know what the truth is. I don't know what the truth is. I don't know what the truth is. This Alice, they are talking us through how difficult it was to watch photos of the crime scene. That our sister took her place in the gallery when the extent of Jackie's injuries were laid bare.

During the evidence, Johnson proceeded to knowing Jackie and to being one of her clients. In fact, also admitting it to being one of the last people to actually see her alive. They dropped her off in the red light district, early in the morning of June the 23rd, 1996. The day before her body was found. The team lodged a special defense of Alibi, also naming a number of other men as potentially guilty of the murder.

And after four hours of deliberation, the 15 jurors returned a majority not proven verdict. Alice tells us she wept as it was handed down. Oh, terrible. Everybody with the family were all crying, even ones that came in, they were crying, they knew the ones that came in, they lost the trial. And that was the most when others again have been seen people dropping the rice.

You know, people knew it. So George Johnston, after weeks of protesting as innocence, was cleared of Jackie's murder. But we are to that leave Alisander family.

“When was the last time you spoke to an officer about this?”

Just before the trial. Just before the trial, you came down and you told me they had some death. And they were going to be all over the going. You were trying to be an officer. And then the officer, which has been abated me, which has been abated me.

Which has been abated, which has been abated me. Did anybody follow up after the verdict or anything like that? No, nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Just a little extra never existed.

How did that feel then as if just dropped in? Well, it was just, it was a nightmare. I've got to raise my sister. She passed this video. But she went overboard, no. She showed you to my family with the other, they were all just saved.

They've actually thought, you know.

“How difficult is it for you knowing that nobody has been brought to justice?”

Well, I've issued something in the paper that brought some DNA to recover some cases. And there I thought, you know, maybe it's Jacqueline, you know. I'm not thinking about the other girls because I'm just thinking about my windows. But I mean, I was hoping maybe it was something that were looking for Jacqueline.

I'm not a bit, nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. No hair, anything. Again, the agony just strikes you of not knowing who killed your loved one for so many years or why. Speaking to Allison Robber, you get the feeling that Jacqueline's murder revisits them daily, even after three decades. Sadly, there are too many families in the city that know the feeling all too well. Okay.

So it's always a motion that mark how long it takes.

That's always no motion in the opposite. The kind of tissue bike, you know, I mean, like when it falls down, because you'll remember when you get to that day. So it's always been long as it's always their flesh. And it's brought stuff. That's Bernadette. Her sister Tracy Wilde was choked to death at her flat in Bermulog, in the north side of the city in 1997.

Bernadette's talking to us in her home, whether partner Andy Kindle makes is a cup of tea.

“Can I have all your teeth milk, no sugar?”

Are we glass of water, be lovely if that's okay? I know I'm not hot drinker, I'm running this weirdo. After a fairly lengthy exchange at the front door, we feel very privileged to be sitting with them as Bernadette shares our story. Almost 30 years later, especially when she explains the tough time they've had with the media sense. When the police came to the door, just to see this she'd been muddled.

It was like I was 12 and I had the ones but never actually hurt me.

I went to school the 90s day and obviously the school had to keep me in because the paparazzi will try to pull me out of school. Almost range, brown and draine. And then there's no static on tell you, sister and other people. I just have to run TV and you're not from very here. You know, in this she's just a stunt and you're not from here. It's funny, it has been rain and like it's done again. In easier way for me anyway, you just learn to cope.

But the hearty kiss on her.

“I think we feel a little ashamed listening to how 12 year old Bernadette was treated back then.”

The reporters and photographers gathering outside her school and the days after her sister's murder, we think to catch her off guard just to grab the next day's headline. And while it was long before either of us even worked in the industry and makes us realize just how toxic social attitudes were back then. I don't think they feel how... Even the people, I don't think they feel wind up and the people that make their family feel like all of you.

You know, once again, we both saw the reporters over there. So it's hard. I mean, I still get the closeness and stuff like that.

So you can go in your trip and watch the first sort of, but even then it's always like prostitutes.

Bernadette raises something we've really struggled with here. I wanted to tell Tracy's full story and the other women who died in similar circumstances, without labeling them. Colette and I have tried our best to express ourselves in the right way, but as there's so much to be on what the correct language is, we've no doubt fallen short in some places. From scripting this podcast to explaining the content and meetings,

we often feel quite protective over who these women really wear and how people speak about them. So much Bernadette shares something else with Alice and Robert too. She knows what it's like to live for so long without justice. Just for years and years, I want to be a fave in case there's a person you're who I was, with the kind of game you can make. Me, a 12, you just think all about my system, moving them around, moving them around, moving them around.

Tracy was just 21 when she was killed, a young mother throttled in her own home. The initial investigation proved unsuccessful, with officers also wrongfully pursuing an Indian national in 2014 who'd lived in Glasgow briefly.

The man had never even met Tracy and he eventually cleared his name.

It wasn't until a lucky DNA breakthrough four years later that her real killer was eventually caught. The way owner Zeman Chen was arrested for an alleged assault in Glasgow's Cowcadden's area in 2018. His DNA was matched with samples taken at the scene of Tracy's murder all those years earlier. The dad of two pleaded guilty to the murder, but after an appeal it was ruled he'd only served 16 years behind bars before being eligible for parole. Bernadette tells us it felt like a slap in the face.

And yeah, it's horrible, like how to spray them against when they fight and never hunt. She didn't tell me your comments after the fair date about his ability to basically live a life. That must have been so hard for me. We find that they had a wife and a family.

“Obviously, you muttered my sister, you got married, you had your own family, did that never come to you?”

We don't know exactly what they like. We don't know if he took her keys or what he done with her keys because he wrote her friend's door. So we zip going in the bag, or I mean, what we just found. But like that, if you just got me's life, no need muttered my sister. I'm going to give you a thing for us.

As Bernadette says, Chen had enjoyed more than two decades of undetected freedom. It started a business and a family in the same city where he strangled and killed Tracy. He was also sentenced to less time in prison than he'd spent living as a fugitive. Tracy's was another life-cut short, brutally killed by a client who picked her up in the city's red light district.

Advice it to Alice B. As time ticks on, even further, from her daughter Jackie's death in 1996, should she hold onto any expectations of justice?

“Do you have any message at all to the other families that we're working with for some maybe they have a bit of a hope of a court case at some point?”

As someone who's been at that point and also at the other end of the court case, do you have any message for them? Don't give up hope. You may wear 10, 30 years even. As long as your family know that this could happen, one day, we honestly gave up hope.

There was definitely never going to happen. It's not in the system and it's something like him.

The stupid claim and I go and call him the pin won't go away, but don't talk with your love person. Always talk with them and look at pictures or remain for like a part of his wedding dance.

“Don't just keep the memories and if you don't talk, I think you're heartless.”

So what hope is there for Alice and Robert? Can they have any cause for optimism of a DNA breakthrough like Bernadette describes in her sister's case? The Jessica Gallagher had significant hand injuries when she was found dead by the site of the road in 1996. It was suggested at the time she'd maybe try to fight off her attacker. But might time have weakened those bonds of loyalty once felt so keenly. Allegiances can change people move away or relationships break up. There are some other unexplored leads too. Police at the time were trying to trace three young men seen traveling on a bus in the paisley area between midnight on Sunday the 23rd of June 1996.

In 130 the next morning, one of the mistlets have spoken to the bus driver about football before the all got off at a stop on the town's Ren through road. They weren't suspects but potential witnesses. So what age might these men be now? And the reports of sightings of a mystery black BMW spotted at the corner of Baldwin Street in Glasgow City Center where Jacket was last seen alive by a taxi driver. Part of the same making model was then seen later that morning in the layby where Jacket's body was discarded.

Or reminds you again of that distinctive curtain, Jacket's body was wrapped in with its swirling floral pattern. It was unusually long, which detectives thought might mean it had been designed for one of Glasgow's tenement flats known for their high ceilings. And a pink and green colored whole maid using a sewing machine and lined with a white and blue cotton material were commonly used for dress making.

“Did anyone have seen it hanging in a window before she was killed? Or does anyone remember making a similar curtain for someone else?”

But where does all this leave Alice?

And almost 30 years in limbo. Jacket's murder took her breath away all those years ago and never gave it back.

I just can't explain how she was feeling inside after the trial and not up until nothing happened to me. I've got infecimed everything wrong with me. And I'm just trying to be positive that something came out of this, you know what I mean? I've helped the family and then now I've got grandkids coming alone. They're just doing what I'm doing. Great grandkids too. They keep you going, but then they're going to grow up and they all find it as well with them to their answer. It almost sounds like life has continued on around Dallas for the past 30 years, with a hustle and bustle of kids, grandkids and great grandkids as Robert remains her.

I'm still in the middle of all of this. The pain of her daughter's murder, bringing emotionless sobering energy. A pain she can only protect her youngest loved ones from for so long. But there's a quiet resolve in Alice's voice as she speaks of staying positive of still asking questions. Never resting until she finally get some answers, hoping that one day she'll be able to comfort her daughter once more.

But I can't help but I can't help but she's an idol, she's like a child. Do you know what I mean? She's really lovely, always smart.

Or she's lovely, sparkly, but she's in my heart, she always will be.

“I know, but I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.”

You're my sister, pastor, and I'm so proud of my sister and her hope, dancing. Just first thing, and my niece went, "Oh, she could ask us, ask us, ask us, "My hand and my heart." She's like, "You've been dreaming, that says, "Well, how did I see it?" You know what I mean? So, I'll be able to believe that I'll see it.

Keep listening, as we continue to search for answers as to who killed these women and why.

And perhaps even a potential break in one more dead inquiry. Hello.

“Hi, Alice, it's Collette McGonical here from Radio Clyde.”

Hi, Alice. I just thought I would give you a quick call, it's just now a good time.

So, what it is, Alice, we did have an initial meeting with police.

Just to start going over things, and I do have a bit of an update on Jacqueline's case for you. Next time we hear about the murder, which was the catalyst for this podcast. It was one of Scotland's most high profile unsolved murders for almost two decades. But just soft spread out a bit, she wouldn't have hand my flight, she really wouldn't have. We also hear from the officers for straighted by a lack of action from senior officers.

At that point, his status should have changed from a witness to a suspect. He said, "Metin, bring in a course of truth." "Metin, bring in Emma Coveville to the very location where her body was found, having been murdered." "Who was Emma, the vulnerable young woman behind the headlines, and why was the investigation into her murder so flawed?"

“"Alan Bells are ringing, I'm thinking, this is corruption. Why aren't they listening to me?”

They can't have something that's that good that Overshad was proof that I found." So, that's next time on the Weirbuk, the story of a string of women brutally murdered in Glasgow. Most of whose cases are still unsolved by police decades later. If you've been affected by any of the issues raised in this podcast and need mental health support, or want to talk about your feelings, visit the hub of hope to find services in your area.

If you think you might have information about any of the people we mentioned, you can get in touch with us at [email protected]. But Weirbuk was written, created and presented by me, Colette McGonagall, presented and produced by Callum McQueen. The executive producer is Henry Eta Harrison. Sound design is by James Stodd and Michelle Holman. Weirbuk is a real original podcast by Beirer Media.