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Ep. 57 | They Experimented On Humans...Even Children | The Horrors Of MK Ultra

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Today we explore the dark secrets of Project MK-Ultra, the CIA’s covert mind control program. From LSD experiments to psychological manipulation, discover how the U.S. government tested on unwitting c...

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The year was 1947, and America had traded one nightmare for another. World War II was over,

but victory came with baggage nobody had ordered. The atomic age had arrived, and suddenly every shadow contained the possibility of instant annihilation.

Kids practiced duck-and-covered drills in classrooms, diving under desks, because if wood could stop a nuclear fire, and their parents built bomb shelters and stocked them with canned food and false hope. But the bombs weren't the worst part. Something far more disturbing was keeping Washington's power players awake at night. The possibility that the human mind could be turned into a weapon. So intelligence reports trickled in, and the Nazis hadn't just built gas chambers. They'd conducted mind experiments in concentration camps.

And SS doctors had injected prisoners with mescaline, testing whether human consciousness could be manipulated like clay.

So the question was, could a person be turned into a puppet? And this question was horrifying. So when the war ended, America faced a choice. Prosecute these monster scientists, or recruit them, guess which option one. So through Operation Paperclip, the US welcomes Nazi researchers with open arms, scrubbing their records clean because their knowledge might prove useful. Nice going, government. Nothing says land of the free, quite like hiring your former enemies to work on a secret project.

Then came Korea where captured American pilots emerged from communist prisons speaking like broken robots, and they confessed to war crimes with mechanical precision. Their voice is flat and extremely strange, and intelligence analysis studied the recordings with growing panic. So these weren't just tortured men. These were reprogrammed men. And the terrifying conclusion was that the Soviets had cracked the code of human consciousness, and in the halls of the newly formed CIA established in 1947 to protect American interest worldwide, a simple but monstrous question emerged.

If they can control minds, shouldn't we learn to do it better?

This question would birth a program so dark that its existence would remain buried for over 20 years. A program that turned hospitals into laboratories, doctors into tortures, and innocent citizens into unwitting test subjects in humanity's most grotesque experiments. Crime, conspiracy, cults, serial killers, and murder all things that I love to consume, and I know you do do, you sick twisted, beautiful intellectually minded. And today we are talking about a big daddy case. A lot of you have requested this, and I will feed you.

Mommy will feed you. Sorry, what the fuck? But we're diving into the CIA into MK Ultra, and if something happens to me, now you know why. But without further ado, let's unbeckled our seat belts go muffled down the highway. Slam of the brakes and bust through this windshield into this crazy shit together.

To the Cold War, had begun. In the battlefield, it was a human mind itself. In CIA offices, plans were already forming. Code names were being signed, and budgets were being approved. And soon, a chemist named Sydney Gottlieb would be handed control of a shadow kingdom where human suffering was the currency and consciousness was the target.

So America was about to ask the question that should never be asked. What if we could break a person's mind?

Rebuild it and control it like any other weapon. And the answer would destroy more lives than any bomb. And it would all be in the name of freedom. The Central Intelligence Agency was barely three years old when it decided to get into the mind control business. Created by the National Security Act of 1947, the CIA was supposed to be America's answer to Soviet intelligence, a shield against communist infiltration and a sword to strike the enemies abroad. But what nobody mentioned in the legislative debates was how quickly protecting America would evolve into experimenting on Americans.

So the groundwork began with projects that sounded like rejected comic book titles.

At first came Project Bluebird, and that was in 1950, and it focused on special interrogation methods and making people resistant to enemy brainwashing.

The name suggested something peaceful, maybe even patriotic.

But the reality involved drugs, hypnosis, and psychological torture designed to shatter human consciousness like glass.

And Bluebird would eventually evolve into Project Artichoke in 1951.

Because apparently someone in the CIA had a thing for naming horrific programs after innocent objects. So Artichoke would push further into darkness. Testing whether hypnosis and chemicals could turn a person into a remote controlled assassin. Think the born ultimatum, except with real people in no Hollywood ending. And the man tasked with running these horrific programs was a soft-spoken chemist named Sydney Gottlieb.

And he was neighbors in suburban Virginia, he was just another government worker who grew orchids and stuttered slightly when he was nervous. But he was colleagues in the CIA's technical services division, he was something else entirely. He was a brilliant scientist with an unsettling enthusiasm for exploring the outer limits of human suffering.

Gottlieb had even earned the nickname "Black Sorcerer" in intelligence circles.

And I could tell you what, it wasn't because of his gardening skills. So the man had a gift for turning theoretical chemistry into practical nightmare fuel.

He could discuss the psychoactive properties of lasirgic acid, diet, telphi, thiamine...

Sorry, these words are hurt. But the same clinical detachment other people would use to talk about the weather. By 1953, the early experiments had proven one thing. Breaking human minds was definitely possible. But the question was whether America wanted to industrialize the process.

And the answer would come from the top, CIA director Alan Dullis, or Dullis or Dullis. I don't know the Kerry's kind of a piece of shit. And he was a man who understood power the way sharks understand blood in the water. Because he spent years watching Soviets expand their influence across the globe. And he was convinced that they were winning the psychological warfare game.

Because at the end of the day, the government's just playing games with us. I should not talk as much, I feel like I'm gonna disappear. So when Gottlieb approached him with a massive centralized mind-control program, Dullis, Dullis, Dullis, whatever, didn't hesitate. So on April 13, 1953, he signed the authorization for project MK Ultra.

And the name itself was typical CIA cryptography. MK indicated the program along to the technical services division. While Ultra was a random word chosen to sound sufficiently mysterious. It sounds ultra fucking stupid to me, but okay. But what wasn't random was the scope.

Because this would be the most extensive mind-control research program in human history. With the budget that would make most university research departments weep with envy. So Gottlieb's first move was pure genius. If you define genius as spectacularly evil, like Dr. Evil from Austin Powers. And if we convince the CIA to buy the entire world supply of LSD from San Dose laboratories in Switzerland

for $240,000, which is roughly $4 million in today's money, which is fucking crazy.

So overnight, America had cornered the market of the most powerful psychoactive drug known to science. So just think about that for a moment. The same government who would later wage a war on drugs had just become the world's largest drug dealer. All the name of national security. Thanks, guys.

So with unlimited funding and unlimited LSD and unlimited government backing, Gottlieb began assembling his empire of shadows. So universities would provide the researchers. And hospitals would supply the test subjects, and prisons would offer captive populations who couldn't say no. Yeah. I mean, I don't care about the murderers in the, in the you know what, but everybody else.

I mean, if you still a candy bar, if I don't list, it's inhumane. But that wouldn't even be the biggest problem. Because America had plenty of citizens, and most of them had no idea what the hell was coming. So MK Ultra was about to begin its reign of terror, and they had the full blessing of the United States government. Big shock.

Because in the Cold War, apparently the only way to protect American minds was to destroy them first.

So the irony was lost on no one except the people making the decisions themselves. So by 1953, Sydney Gottlieb had assembled something that would have made Dr. Frankenstein and VS. Hell. A nationwide network of human experimentation that stretched across more than 80 institutions and encompassed over 150 separate research projects.

The budget was staggering $10 million, and that would equal roughly $87.

But money was just numbers on the ledger. The real currency of MK Ultra was human suffering. So the program's objective was deceptively simple. Discover how to control human consciousness, using chemical, biological, and radiological methods. And whether the subjects consented was completely optional.

And whether they survived was completely irrelevant.

So the chemical key to consciousness at the center of MK Ultra's arsenal was a substance so powerful

that amounts equivalent to two grains of salts could shatter a human mind. The surgical acid, diephalomyde, which is better known as LSD.

And that's what I'm going to call it from now on because I ain't saying that I should again.

So Swiss chemist Albert Hoffman first synthesized LSD in 1938. So for those of you who don't know or for those of you who have tried it and still don't know, maybe you should know some history about it, so let's go over that real quick. So Swiss chemist Albert Hoffman first synthesized LSD in 1938. And he accidentally discovered its hallucinogenic properties in 1943.

When he absorbs some through his skin, I can't even imagine how his day went, probably terrible. But the drug works by hijacking the brain's serotonin system, basically, binding to receptors that normally help interpret reality. And this causes the brain to process far more stimuli than usual. Turning reality into a kaleidoscope of distorted perceptions where users might see music or hear colors.

Another normal doses an LSD trip might last from seven to 12 hours, maybe even less depending on how much you take. Not that I would know. But MK Ultra researchers weren't interested in normal doses,

and they would push subjects into uncharted territory with massive quantities

that could trigger ego disillusion with the complete breakdown of personal identity. And at these extreme levels, subjects could experience seizures, respiratory problems, and dangerous hypothermia. But the psychological effects were even more devastating, because extended exposure could trigger flashback months, or years later.

And in some cases, hallucinogenic persisting perception disorder, which is HPPD, condition so severe that victims are unable to adapt to living with permanent reoccurring trips. But for the CIA, these weren't side effects. They were features. Because the more LSD could break down the human consciousness,

the more useful it became as a weapon. So Gottlieb's empire operated on a simple philosophy. Before you could insert a new mind into somebody's head,

you first had to destroy the one that was already there.

And this was not therapy. It was psychological demolition.

And the techniques read like torturers instruction manuals.

Because these were massive doses of LSD that could keep subjects hallucinating for weeks on end. And they also used electro shock therapy, which was delivered at intensities that would have killed smaller animals. And then there were sensory deprivation.

And they would use sensory deprivation so complete, it could break a person's grip on reality for days. And they would also use drug combinations that turned human beings into chemical experiments. With researchers injecting barbituids in one arm while pumping and fedemines into the other. Just to see what would happen to the human nervous system,

what it became a battleground within itself. I can't even imagine the psychological pain and just the pain in general that that person would experience. And the most extreme case would involve a patient in Kentucky who received LSD every single day for 174 consecutive days.

Not weeks, nearly six months of continuous chemical assault on the human brain. And the patient's name was just lost in history. And they're suffering just became a statistic and gotly of files.

Hunting the vulnerable because MK Ultra didn't target the powerful or connected.

As one CIA officer coldly noted, they focused on quote-unquote, "people who could not fight back." Which was mental patients, prisoners, drug addicts and prostitutes. And the agency even extended its reach to children. With documented cases of subjects as young as eight to ten years old,

which is so incredibly heartbreaking. And they would go through months of LSD, electro shock and sensory deprivation. And James Whitney Bulger, the notorious Boston crime boss, actually volunteered for what he was told, was an experiment to find a cure for schizophrenia.

And he did this while serving time in Atlanta federal penitentiary in 1957. So for more, then a year he received LSD injections daily. And his description of the experiment reads like something from Hell's Own Medical Journal.

Stating eight convicts in a panic in paranoid state,

total loss of appetite,

hallucinating, the room would change shape, hours of paranoia and feeling violent.

We experienced horrible periods of living nightmares, and even blood coming out of the walls. Guys turning into skeletons in front of me, I saw a camera change into the head of a dog. I felt like I was going insane.

And years later, Bulger would finally realize the truth, saying,

"I was in prison for committing a crime, but they committed a greater crime on me." So the man who would become one of America's most wanted criminals had been transformed into a case study in government-sponsored psychological torture. And that's when we enter Operation Midnight climax.

Yeah, it just bad as it sounds. So the CIA's brothel among MK Ultra's most twisted operations was a program that sounds too bizarre to be real, but it is. And that was Operation Midnight climax, where government employed ladies of the night,

lured unsuspecting men to CIA safe houses in San Francisco and New York for drug experiments.

And the agency would dose the men with LSD,

and then they would just watch through two way mirrors as the drug took effect. They didn't know that they were being drugged, by the way. They thought they were going to go to the safe house and get lucky. And they would just record everything for later analysis.

And CIA operative George Hunter White, who ran the operation, later described his work with disturbing enthusiasm, saying, "I toiled wholeheartedly in the vineyards because it was fun. Fun, fun. Where else could her red-blooded American boy lie,

killed sheep, steel, and grape, and pillage with the sanction of blessing of the all-housed?" This guy was fucking two sheets to the wind, fucking twisted piece of shit, I don't even understand what he said. And the recording devices in the room

were disguised as electrical outlets.

And the subjects never knew they were being drugged, as I said.

They were just watched and recorded.

And they were just ordinary men who thought they were paying for sex.

And instead, they just became unwitting participants in the most elaborate psychological warfare experiment in human history. And perhaps nowhere was MK Ultra's brutality were systemically applied than at the Alan Memorial Institute in Montreal. We're Scottish psychiatrist, Dr. You and Cameron,

turned a prestigious hospital into a laboratory of horrors. Cameron, who was paid $69,000 by the CIA, between 1957 and 1964, developed techniques that would make medieval torturers seem humane by comparison. And a specialty was something he called psychic driving.

A procedure where patients were subjected to continuously repeated audio messages on looped tapes. Often exposed to hundreds of thousands of repetitions of a single statement over the course of their treatment. That sounds fucking terrible.

I can't even stand in an elevator for more than like five minutes before that music drives me fucking insane. I can't even imagine like all jokes aside how horrible that would be.

But this was just the beginning. His Cameron used doses of Thorazine to put patients into artificial comas and what he called a sleep room. And the drug induced sleep usually lasted from a few days

up to 86 days. Far longer than any of the patients expected. Because what's consent, right? So while the patients were unconscious, the patients were subjected to electro- conclusive therapy

at 30 to 40 times the normal power. So their brains were just bombarded with electrical storms that would have killed them in any larger overdose. And again, they're unconscious at this point so they obviously can't consent to what they're doing.

And the deep patterning process was designed to erase personality entirely. And Cameron would give his subjects mega doses of LSD and would subject them to drug-induced sleep therapy for up to 65 consecutive days

and applied electro-shock therapy at 75 times the usual intensity. So the goal was to reduce patients to what Cameron clinically described as a vegetable state. And then came the re-patterning, forcing patients to listen to specific recordings

for up to 16 hours a day with messages

repeated up to half a million times,

which is awful, like horrible. I feel like, I don't know if it doesn't sound like much to people, like it's just words, but the psychological torture you can put on someone by putting them through that.

I mean, there's a reason why it's called torture. This is like actual torture methods that multiple militaries use, sticking someone in a room and putting someone on something on repeat constantly.

So for the first 10 days,

The recordings contained personal, negative messages

designed to destroy any remaining sense of self. So just imagine a million, like millions of times just telling you how worthless you are. And you can't think of anything else

because you have to listen to what's in your ears.

I can't imagine. And then the next 10 days featured positive messages meant to rebuild the personality according to Cameron's specifications. And one patient subjected to recordings

45 times, expressed her distress, begged the experimenter to stop playing it and even turned red and began hyperventilating and started shaking and continued to shake even after the recording was stopped.

And the researchers noted her reaction with the same emotional detachment that they might use to describe the behavior of laboratory rats. It's just chilling.

And it is his mind. No less which made destroy mankind.

I never saw him once in all the times

that I saw him. Then I wasn't afraid. Every time I went down to his office I would shake with fear. And every time I'd see him coming down the hall

I'd shake with fear. But I don't. The human cost was just staggering. And Louis Weinstein, a Montreal businessman who entered the institute for

anxiety and digestive problems, emerged as what his son described

as a human guinea pig, a poor pathetic man

with no memory and no life. He lost his business. He lost everything. Like these people were walking out of here sometimes a lot of them didn't

just complete shells of themselves. But one of the most horrifying aspects of MK Ultra was its willingness to experiment on children. So Bill Yarbra, who believes he was

a child victim of MK Ultra,

recalls experiments where they quote

"They asked me to draw as many squares as possible on a sheet of paper until an alarm clock rang. If I drew enough, I'd be given a candy bar. If not, I'd be handed over to a monster."

Again, it's just like it seems so like mundane and stupid, but just can you imagine just drawing and who knows how long they're making these kids draw like squares.

Like could be an hour, could be 16 hours. Like I just I can't even, there's just so fucked up. Like these people have no souls.

It has memories, suppressed for decades, eventually surfaced, saying, "My father worked in the war crime

staff of the US Army after World War Two

where he interviewed the Nazis running the Dekau concentration camp. And that is where the Nazis conducted mine control experiments and that is where the CIA

recruited some mine control experts for MK Ultra. And I believe that it is the connection that let us into this program."

Just fucking scum of the earth, like recruiting Nazis, Nazi doctors for an American program to torture their own citizens. I just I can't, I can't,

fathom it. So the irony was just crushing. America prosecuted Nazi doctors for experimenting on children.

And then recruited those same doctors to refine their techniques and use them on American children, just a special place in hell for all for the whole lot.

Besides the kids, obviously. So in one of history's greatest ironies, MK Ultra accidentally launched in the 1960s counterculture movement.

And can KEC author of one flu over the Kuku's nest? Received his first LSD through the CIA experiments while he was a student at Stanford.

And Robert Hunter, learsist for the grateful dead, was paid to take LSD sell a siphon and mescaline. And report on his experiences.

And Alan Jinsberg, the poet who would preach the value of psychedelic experiences,

got his first asset trip,

courtesy of you guessed it. Sydney Gottlieb. And hundreds description of his LSD experience reads

like poetry. He said, "Sit back, picture yourself a swooping up a shell of purple with foam crests of crystal drops

off nigh. They fall onto the sea of morning creep. Very softly missed. And then sort of cascade tinkly bell-like.

And then conglomerate suddenly into a peel of silver vibrant, uncomprehendingly. Bloods singingly joyously resounding bells.

When I faith that this be insanity, then for the love of God, permit me to remain in shame. What, what, what, what, what, what, I don't want what he's having.

Is what I gotta say. So these particular volunteers found these experiences pleasurable and they would tell their friends. And soon, LSD spread beyond

government control, disfueling a generational rebellion against everything the CIA represented. 'Cause the agency had hoped to weaponize consciousness.

Instead, they were armed with enemies with the very tools that would challenge authority itself. And obviously, these volunteers

Were getting their own doses,

like they weren't being heavily

dose, like the people that came out of prison

or mental institutions. So it was like pleasurable for them whereas the experiments that were going on with the CIA were just torture chambers. So by 1963, over 30 institutions

and universities were involved in the experimentation program. Testing drugs on unknowing citizens that social levels, high and low, Native Americans and foreign.

And the military alone conducted three phases of LSD testing.

The first phase included over 1,000 American soldiers

who willingly volunteered for chemical warfare experiments. While phase two involved 96 volunteers dosed with LSD for evaluation of intelligence uses.

But we will never know the true scope of MK Ultra's damage. And Stephen Kinzer even noted, quote-unquote, "We don't know how many people died, but a number did die.

And many lives were permanently destroyed." And the deliberate destruction of the records ensures that thousands of victims remain unknown. They're suffering just erased as efficiently as their memories.

But what we do know is that for a decade the United States government operated the most extensive mind control program in human history. Treating its own citizens as expendable test subjects

in a war that existed primarily in the paranoid imagination of men who confused patriotism with psychopathy. So the experiments would continue subject by subject injection by injection shock

by shock until the day someone

would ask the question that terrified the CIA

more than any Soviet weapon. And that was, what if the American people actually found out what the government was doing to their own people?

And that day was coming. And what it would arrive the reckoning would be swift and merciless. So the statistics of MK Ultra

read like a military casualty report over 150 experiments, thousands of subjects and over millions of dollars spent. But behind every number

was a human being. whose life was completely shattered by their government's hunger for psychological weapons. And some names we know,

but most we will never learn,

but all deserve to be remembered. And one of those people was Frank Olsen. And he would be the scientist who knew too much.

So Dr. Frank Rudolph, a manual Olsen, was 43 years old when he died. And he knew secrets that could have toppled governments.

And as acting chief of the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, Maryland, Olsen occupied a unique position in America's biological warfare program.

He wasn't just another lab coat. He was the bridge between legitimate research and the darkest corners of the CIA's mind-control experiments.

So he knew about the anthrats experiments on North Korean civilians. And he had witnessed interrogation sessions where prisoners

were literally interrogated to death, using experimental combinations of drugs, hypnosis, and torture.

And he had seen the piles of dead monkeys that created researchers each morning and victims

of chemical and biological experiments

that would have violated every international law if anyone had bothered to ask. So by November 1953, something was eating

at Frank Olsen's conscious. And his colleagues would notice the change. Because the man who had once been

the life of the party, quote, "Habicon withdrawn and troubled." And he'd start questioning

the work, asking uncomfortable questions about the ethics of what they were actually doing to human beings

in the name of national security. But the questioning, as we know, in CIA style,

would cost him his life. So on November 19th 1953, Olsen attended what seemed like

a routine CIA retreat at deep-create like Maryland. And about 20 CIA and Army officials

gathered at a remote cabin to discuss ongoing projects. And among them was,

you guessed it, Sydney Gottlieb. But devil and his deputy Robert Lashbrook.

So after dinner as a man relax with drink Scott Leab and Lashbrook

quietly dosed the alcohol with, you guessed it, LSD.

And they'd call it just an unwitting experiment. But none of the men knew

they had been drugged until Gottlieb casually mentioned it 20 minutes later,

you know, after the drugs were in their system. As if revealing the punchline

to an elaborate joke. Hey, by the way, a horrifying hallucinogenic at high doses.

Have fun tonight. Don't let the bed bugs bite. [laughs] Terrifying.

But since they actually knew what was happening most of the men handled the unexpected trip with

some professionalism, which is expected of intelligence operatives. But Frank Olsen did not.

And the LSD would hit him in particular

A sledgehammer

to the psyche. He became paranoid, agitated, convinced his colleagues

were plotting against him.

They probably were. And by morning, he would be a broken man, repeatedly

asking to be taken home to his family. But Gottlieb had other plans.

Instead of letting Olsen return home to Maryland, the CIA arranged him to see

Dr. Harold Ambramson, a psychiatrist in New York, who was

secretly on the CIA payroll. [laughs] All the puzzle pieces

are puzzle pieces, and I don't even need you to tell me, I already knew. That y'all were fucking with him.

He kidding me. To Olsen would be taken to the city by supervisor Vincent Ruitt

and Robert Lashbrook. And they would take him there for medical help. But really

just for damage control. No quotes. Just damage control. Because the agency

needed to know how much Olsen might reveal about their programs. And whether he could

be trusted to keep quiet. So in the night of November 27, 1953 Olsen

was staying in the room 1018 A of

the Statler Hotel in Manhattan. Sharing the space with

Lashbrook. And at approximately 238 M

on November 28 a thunderous crash shattered

the silence. His Frank Olsen had gone through

the closed window of the 13th

floor. plummeting 170 feet to the sidewalk

below. And when police arrived they found

Lashbrook sitting calmly on the toilet. Just

taking a passive shit piece of shit but he was fully

dressed. He was actually taking a shit.

He is a piece of shit. But his first

call wasn't to the emergency services nay

nay. It was to his CIA

contacts shocking news breaking news

just kidding. It's fully expected.

So the official story was

simple Frank Olsen suffering from a psychotic break

caused by LSD had committed sluercide

by jumping from his hotel window. Case closed. And the family

was just told that their husband and father had suffered a fatal nervous breakdown

but the details never added up. And the hotel

night manager arming to the store who reached Olsen

first later called quote in all

my years in the hotel business I never

encountered the case where someone got up in the middle

of the night ran across the role and

is under avoiding two beds and both

through a closed window with the shade

and curtain drawn. I think you're on to

something our mind. And the physics

we're all wrong because the trajectory was completely wrong. Essentially

everything about the scene suggested not sluercide

but something far more sinister. So

in nineteen ninety four more than

four to years after their father's

death. Eric Olsen had his father's body exhumed

for a second autopsy. Absolutely. Nice, Eric.

And the results would be devastating to the official narrative.

Because the forensic examination revealed evidence

of blunt force trauma to the head injuries

consistent with being struck before the fall.

Again, we already need this, but

at least their sons actually finding out. Because

mind you at this time, people actually

trusted the government, which is crazy. But

you know, they did. So who

was to think that their own government they own the people

that hired on this guy's father would kill the father,

you know? But now we know. We know. We know.

And on top of the blunt force trauma, there were no cuts on the body

from broken glass. Suggesting he was unconscious when he went

through the window. On the New York District Attorney quietly changed

the classification of Frank Olson's death from slewerslide

to unknown. An Eric Olson's investigation

uncovered the chilling truth. His father hadn't just witnessed CIA atrocities.

He had been planning to quit and potentially expose them. And in the paranoid

world of the 1950s intelligence, that made him a security threat

to the highest order. Because although people did trust

the government, they were they were freaking out. I mean,

there's cold war. There's all these things happening where people

were like, what the hell is going on? You know? So

that that trust was beginning

to fade and this

was the nail in the coffin.

And the LSD hadn't been an experiment. It had been an interrogation

drug. Designed to assess what Olson might reveal

and how much he could be trusted. So when the assessment

came back negative, Frank Olson had to be silenced

permanently. So the case was beginning

to crack. But six months before

Frank Olson's suspicious death, another man

became a casualty in the CIA's chemical weapons program. Not

person was Harold Blower. And he

was 42 years old the professional tennis player and a father who had entered the

New York State Psychiatric Institute in December of 1952

For treatment

of depression following his divorce. But what Blower

didn't know is that his doctors had been recruited by the Army

chemical corpse as part of a classified program to test synthetic

masculine derivative. And in December of 1952 and January

of 1953, Blower was injected five times

with increasing doses

of the experimental compound.

And the final injection was administered on January 8 1953.

And it contained a dose so massive it would have killed

most laboratory animals. And within two hours Blower was in

convulsions. And within three hours and fortunately he was dead.

But the official cause of death was listed as

a heart attack. And the Army's involvement was scrubbed from all records.

And Blower's family was never told other had been used as a human guinea pig

in a governmental experiment that violated every principle of medical ethics. And years later

when the truth would finally emerge it became clear that Blower hadn't just been a test subject.

He had been a deliberate sacrifice. Because the researchers knew that the dose

was potentially lethal but they administered it anyway to see what would happen.

And his death would just provide them with valuable valuable data

about the toxic limits of their new chemical weapon. Just like

the the thoughtlessness and carelessness of human life

during this time is and in general I mean Lord knows

this is still happening somewhere

whether it's in our country or not.

I'm going to safely say something's probably going on. It's just like horrified

horrifying to think about. And then there was Linda Mcdonald.

So in 1963, Linda Mcdonald was a 25-year-old mother, a five

who sought help for postpartum depression at Montreal's Alan Memorial Institute.

And she trusted you in Cameron to help her feel better. But instead,

he destroyed her life. Mcdonald was subjected to Cameron's full

arsenal of deep patterning like we talked about before. For 102 days

she was in a drug-induced coma while receiving massive electro-shock

treatments. And when she finally woke up, she had

no memory of her husband and no memory

of her five children. And she lacked basic

functions like using the toilet. Her husband

would say she was like a newborn. I had to teach her everything

how to walk how to talk. How to use a spoon.

She didn't know who I was. She didn't know

she had children. So the woman who entered Cameron's

Institute as a young mother emerged as

a hollow shell. Her personality

just completely erased. And she

would never fully recover her memories. Or

her sense of self. And

her children grew up with a

mother who was physically present but

psychologically destroyed by their own

government's experiments. And then there was

Gail Cassner and Gail was

a 19-year-old McGill university student when she

volunteered she was told were sleep experiments in

1957. But instead, she became one of Cameron's

most documented victims. And for

88 days, Cassner was kept unconscious

in Cameron's sleep room. Subjected to massive

doses of LSD, powerful electro-shocked

treatments and an endless repetition of those

recorded messages designed to break down her entire personality.

And when she would finally emerge she had

been introduced to an infantile state. Unable to recognize her own

family. And Cassner would later testify,

quote-unquote " " I lost my memory completely.

I didn't know my name where I was, where I came from. I had

to be toiletrained again. I had to learn to eat again,

to walk again." And Cassner eventually recovered some of her

abilities, but the damage was permanent. And she suffered from chronic

anxiety, memory problems, and PTSD for life. And in 2007,

she finally received a settlement from the Canadian government, a poultry

sum that could never compensate for the decades of suffering caused by the government's

complicity in torture. But perhaps the most horrifying

victims of MK Ultra were those

too young to understand what was happening to them at all. So

at various institutions across North America, children as

six years old

protected to experimental drugs,

electro-shock therapy, and psychological torture. Now, one facility

researchers tested how long children could withstand sensory deprivation before suffering

a complete psychological breakdown. And at another, children were given

massive doses of LSD, and then subjected to

stroboscopic lights designed

To trigger

seizures. And some children were kept in drug-induced

comas for months, while recorded messages in the past. And

most of these children were from marginalized families,

indigenous communities, poor immigrant families, or children

in state care who had no

advocates to protect them. Just again, like

it's just heartbreaking to think

that like just a little

kid is being subjected to the

tortures not knowing anything that's

going on. But they were chosen

precisely because they were vulnerable. Because

no one would ask questions if they emerge

from treatment changed or damaged. And the long-term

effects were catastrophic for these children. As many of these

children grew up with severe mental illness, unable to form

normal relationships with anyone or function

in society at all. And some even took their own lives.

And others spent their lives in and out

of psychiatric institutions never understanding why

their minds had been shattered in their childhood.

But for every documented victim

a a break Olsen, Linda McDonald,

there were dozens of others

whose names will never know. Patients

who entered the hospitals for

my no problems and emerged as

shells of their former selves.

The deliberate destruction of MK

ultra records means will never

know the extent of this carnage.

In conservative estimates suggest thousands

of people directly harmed by the

program. With tens of thousands more affected

indirectly through family members and relationships just destroyed

by these experiments. But what we

do know is that behind

every statistic is a human

being a person with hopes

and dreams families and futures

that were delicately destroyed by

their own government in pursuit

of an ultimate weapon. that was

never found by the way.

not that would have mattered.

but it was all futile.

so by nineteen sixty three

even Sydney Gottlia was beginning to

realize that

consciousness had become a spectacular

failure because after a decade of torture disguised as

research tens of millions of dollars spent and countless lives destroyed.

the CIA had produced exactly but an irrational person

could have predicted from the very beginning. and that is that

they came up with a lot of broken people

and zero usable mind-control techniques.

but admitting failure wasn't in the CIA's nature

and so instead of shutting down MK Ultra completely they simply

changed the name and kept the night mare going. so MK

Ultra officially ended in 1963

it was immediately replaced by MK

search great name change a

program that continued the same experiments with

slightly less ambitious goals because if

they couldn't create the perfect

mind control perhaps they could at least develop better

interrogation drugs so this transition was seamless

because fundamentally nothing had changed

because the same researchers continued their work

at the same institutions funded by

the same shadowy budget lines the

only difference was that somebody

in Washington had decided the

original program was getting too

much internal attention and John

Vance a member of the

CIA's inspector general staff had

discovered MK Ultra's service scientist

administration to

one winning non-voluntary human subjects

and forced its official termination wow thanks John

Vance's investigations has focused on the specific programs and procedures of

MK Ultra not the underlying research infrastructure that supported it

so the work would just continue anyways prisoners were still

dosed

with experimental chemicals

and psychiatric patients still disappeared long drug-induced commas and children still emerged

from government facilities with their personalities fundamentally altered the only thing that changed was

the paperwork basically so by the mid-1960s cracks were beginning to show

in the CIA's confidence about their mind control programs and part of this

was practical because after more than a decade of experimentation

they had precious little to show for their investment but part of it

was a new generation of CIA officers was entering the agency which were men and women

who had come from the age during the civil rights movement and were less willing to accept the casual brutality as the scope of the experiments

became more widely known within the agency. The story circulated about researchers

Who had lost all

sense of ethical boundaries

treating human beings like laboratory rats and increasingly bizarre experiments. And word

would start to spread about Dr. Yuan Cameron's latest innovations in psychological torture

about prisoners who emerged from medical treatment medical treatment as vegetative

shells and about children who disappeared in the government facilities and emerged

fundamentally changed altogether. So even within the paranoid culture of the 1960s intelligence

work MK Ultra and its successors were beginning to seem

excessive and mad unnecessary. So outside

the CIA's closed world America was undergoing a profound

moral transformation that would make programs like MK Ultra impossible to sustain

because the civil rights movement

had forced the country to confront its treatment of African Americans. And the Vietnam War was raising

uncomfortable questions about American power and its abe--- So a generation of young Americans

was beginning to question authority and ways that would be completely unthinkable

especially in the 1950s. And the counter-culture movement ironically fueled in part by the

very LSD that the CIA had hoped to weaponize was teaching Americans

to distrust government claims about national security.

So what officials insisted certain actions were necessary to protect their country more people

were beginning to ask necessary for whom and at what cost.

So the change was generational and fundamental. And the men who had created

MK Ultra were products of World War II accustomed to thinking in terms

of total war where any action could be justified

by the magnitude of the threat.

Just fucking go, go, go, go, nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit who dies. Whatever. Well, it's just fucking go.

It's just be better. It's a big dick-measuring competition. But the generation coming of age in the 1960s

had grown up during the Cold War. And they were less convinced that the threat from communism

justified abandoning American values entirely. And this shift in public consciousness would prove

fatal to secret government programs and secret government programs that primarily depended on public ignorance. So the break-in

at the Watergate complex on June 17, 1972 seems unrelated to CIA mind-control experiments.

But it's impact on programs like MK Ultra was devastating

because Watergate didn't just bring down a president. It shattered America's faith

in government secrecy. For the first time since World War II significant numbers of Americans began

to question whether their government was telling them the truth that anything. It's so funny to think

about us just being like, "We can't trust them! We can't trust the really rich people that control everything

in the world that they're not doing

stuff that they're supposed to be doing."

Gosh, we were so blissfully ignorant back then. And now we know we know your pieces

of shit. Anyway, so if the president of the United States shadows of Washington

and the Watergate investigations created a new template for aggressive journalism and congressional oversight

and reporters who had once accepted government claims at face value began digging

deeper doing real journalism which we still lack today. But they would

file the Freedom of Information Act requests cultivating sources within the intelligence community.

And congressional committees that had previously provided only token oversight of intelligence activities

began demanding real answers to hard questions. Because as new

environment of skepticism and investigation was toxic to programs

like MK Ultra. (laughs) (laughs) No fucking hope.

Programs which depended entirely on secrecy for their survival. So

as the political winds shifted against the intelligence community CIA director Richard Helms found himself

in an impossible position. Because he had spent his career building and protecting the agencies most sensitive programs.

But now those same programs were becoming liabilities that threatened the CIA's

very existence. And Helms was a company man through and through. A veteran

intelligence officer who believed that the CIA's work was essential to American security. Regardless of how

distasteful that work might be to squeamish civilians. But he was also a realist who understood

that the times were changing. Great. Only took you you know, fucking years.

So in 1973, facing retirement and increasing scrutiny of CIA activities,

Helms made the decision that would haunt researchers and investigators for decades to come. And he would order

the destruction of virtually all MK Ultra's records. And the purge was systemic

and thorough. Filing cabinets were empty,

Documents

were shredded, research files accumulated two decades of human experimentation

simply disappeared. And Helms

justified the destruction

as routine administrative action. But everyone involved understood its real

purpose. And that was to eliminate evidence of crimes that could destroy

the agency and imprison its leaderships. You know, consequences

for your actions. Holding people accountable for the horrible fucking criminal

shit that they did. Basically They're just like, no. Nevermind,

it's shredded. We didn't do anything. What me? No, not me. I would never.

That was the CIA. But the destruction order was carried out with military precision.

And teams of CIA personnel worked around the clock to ensure that no trace

remained of the programs that had defined the agency's approach to behavioral

research. And when they were finished, almost nothing was left.

No experimental protocols, no subject lists, no research findings, no records

of payments to universities and researchers, it was one of the most comprehensive cover-ups

in American history. So Helm's Purge was remarkably effective.

But it wasn't perfect. And in the chaos

of all of the destruction approximately 20,000 documents escaped

elimination. And not because anyone intended to preserve them,

but because they had been misfiled in financial records, which is

kind of hilarious. But

these surviving documents

would eventually become the foundation of all subsequent investigations into M.K.

Ultra. And without them, the program would've remained completely hidden.

It's existence known only to the participants and their victims. So

the survival of these documents was a pure accident and I think

it was divine intervention. So they were stored

in the financial records building separate from the main CIA archives, filed

under budget codes that didn't immediately identify them

as related to behavioral research. So when the destruction order

came down, the teams responsible for purging M.K.

Ultra's files simply overlooked this cache.

And it was a mistake that would eventually expose

one of the darkest chapters in American intelligence history.

So as M.K. Ultra wound down

in the early 1970s Sydney Gottlieb

Satan. The man who had

spent two decades trying to unlock

the secrets of the human consciousness offered a

brutally honest assessment of his life's work. And

in this final reports to CIA

leadership, he dismissed the entire

M.K. Ultra program as useless.

I didn't like not that you

want them to be useful but

the fact that it just

all could have avoided if

they were just not horrible human

beings is just a crazy

thought to think about bi-degress. After

twenty years of millions of dollars

and human subjects, Gottlieb had reached the conclusion that

mine control was simply not possible. Thanks Einstein

because human consciousness was too complex

to resilient two fundamentally unpredictable

to be reliably manipulated through drugs or psychological

techniques. And it was an admission

that came far to late for

the victims who had suffered through these experiments.

But it was at least honest

I guess I not giving you that

though. My control program had been a failure

from the beginning. Sustain not by scientific

results but by institutional momentum and

the desperate hope that the next experiment

might finally produce a breakthrough that

had all the previous ones.

So on July 10th 1972

Gottlieb officially terminated M.K. search.

The last remnant of the program

he had begun nearly twenty years

earlier. The CIA systemic exploration

of human consciousness was over. Leaving behind only

trauma destroyed lives and a massive

cover-up that was designed to ensure that

American people would have never learned what had been

done in their own name. So by 1973,

the mind control experiments had been

shut down and the records destroyed. And

the researchers had been transferred to

other projects or retired entirely.

The victims had been left to deal with their

trauma in silence. Most of them still

unaware that the suffering had been deliberately inflicted

by their own government. So to outside observers, nothing

had happened. And the psychiatric hospitals returned

to normal operations. And the university researchers

moved on to other studies in the CIA continued its work with

no apparent interruption. But but beneath

the surface, America was changing

in ways that would make the

secrets of MK Ultra impossible to

keep forever. So the storm

was coming and when it hit the

carefully constructed walls of secrecy around frames like M.K. Ultra

would crumble like paper and a hurricane. The only question

was whether anyone would be left

alive to

Tell the

full story when the truth

finally emerged. So and see more

horses explosive expose hit the

New York Times on December 22

1974 most readers focused on

the headline. which was revelations

about illegal CIA domestic surveillance. but

buried within that bombshell article

was a single paragraph that would prove

even more devastating. The agency had

conducted illegal experiments on American citizens

and at least one person

had died as a result. So for the

Olson family who had lived

for over 20 years believing

Frank was a slur slide

it was a thunderbolt revelation.

So President for its response

to this article was swift.

It was to create a

commission led by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller

to investigate the allegations. The

commission was designed as controlled

demolition. To reveal just enough truth

to satisfy the public curiosity without fundamentally

damaging the intelligence community. It

was a dance that they

were trying to do like

a K. let's get a

little bit of information but also

let's not give all the

information otherwise going to be really

mad if the CIA stays, you know,

because a poor torturing people.

So in June of 1975

the

Rockefeller's Commission report contained the clinical paragraph that changed everything and that was as

part of a program to test the influence of drugs on humans research included the administration

of LSD to persons who were unaware they were being tested. This was clearly illegal. One person died in 1953, apparently as a result. And within days

the Olson family had identified Frank as the unnamed victim. An story exploded across national media and on July 21st, in 1975,

the family found themselves in the Oval Office receiving a personal apology from President Ford and CIA director William Colby. As if that's going to fucking take the pain away but it was an extraordinary moment

that was broadcast on national television of course because you couldn't just do it in the privacy you had to make sure

everyone knew that you guys are good guys. But it was an unprecedented moment in American history,

a sitting president apologizing to a family for their government role in killing their loved one. But the apology just raised more questions than it answered thankfully.

Because Frank Olson's death had been an accident caused by an LSD experiment why had the family been lied to for over 20 years

because they didn't know it was a murder at this point. They just said, "You know, he's in the CIA and we gave him LSD at this house party and then he went over here and then he jumped out the window." So they still think all that.

But it would raise the question of what other experiments had the CIA conducted. And how many families were still living with lies? So the government offered a

$750,000 settlement in exchange for comprehensive release absolving them of further liability. Just buying their way out. Like usual. And the Olson's

did accept, but it was just another layer in the ongoing cover-up. And how would they know better? So while the Rockefeller Commission

provided limited glimpses into the CIA wrongdoing, Senator Frank Churches Committee conducted the deep investigation Americans actually needed

and they were approved by the Senate 82-4 in January of 1975. And the Church Committee was authorized to dig as deeply as necessary.

Get that shovel up. And Senator Frank Church of Idaho

was an unlikely choice to lead the most important

congressional investigation since the Army McCarthy hearings. Because he was just soft-spoken with a professional manner, and Church just seemed more suited

to debating agriculture policies than confronting the nation's most powerful intelligence agencies. But appearances were deceiving. Don't read a book by it's cover NNA

because Church was a former military intelligence officer who understood how secret organizations operated. And he was deeply committed to the principle that no agency should operate beyond the reach of democratic oversight.

So over 16 months, they conducted 126 meetings held 40 subcommittee hearings and employed 150 staff members. And they would interview 800 witnesses

and they demanded documents

of agencies that had never been subject

to serious congressional oversight. And it's a peanut officials who had spent their careers operating in complete secrecy. So there was shed in some light

on the snakes and the holes basically for laymen's terms. And the investigation faced enormous resistance from the intelligence community, obviously.

And CIA director William Colby was forced to testify under oath about programs he had hoped would be buried forever. Would remain buried forever.

And military officials worked raged before television cameras to explain biological weapon programs

That violated international law.

And researchers who spent decades conducting human experiments in secret suddenly forced

to justify their actions in public hearings.

Just hilarious. hilarious. The bullies are finally being held accountable.

And the breakthrough would come

during a national television hearing in September, October 1975, where Americans received a shocking education in what their government had been doing

in their name. And the star witness was CIA director William Colby, who found himself defending programs that were clearly indefensible.

Have you brought with you some of those devices which would have enabled the CIA to use this poison for we haven't been for killing people?

And under aggressive questioning, Colby was forced to admit that the CIA had conducted extensive mind control experiments that many subjects had been

unwitting participants. And that the agency has systemically violated American laws and constitutional principles. And the most dramatic

moment came when committee staff wheeled out actual CIA poisoned dark guns and exotic toxins that were supposed to have been destroyed under international agreements.

Just embarrassing. It's hilariously horrible to us, obviously. But in a scene that could have been in a scripted movie,

the display demonstrated the extent

to which the intelligence community had been willing to develop weapons that violated every principle of civilized warfare. And for Americans,

accustomed to thinking of their governments as good guys. Okay. In the Cold War, especially the hearings

were just a devastating revelation of how far their leaders had been willing to go in the pursuit of victory. So the investigation

might have remained limited to survivor testimony but in 1977, journalists John Marks freedom

of the Information Act. Uncovered the treasure trove Richard Helms thought he had destroyed. Oh no.

Which was 20,000 MK Ultra documents accidentally preserved in those financial records. And these documents

were a gold bind of evidence. Experimental protocols university contracts subject recruitment guidelines research results and most importantly,

proof of the systemic nature

of the program. And the papers showed that the program had been far more extensive than anyone had imagined involving dozens of universities

hundreds of researchers and thousands of subjects. And the document discovery led to additional Senate hearings in 1977.

Were survivors of the MK Ultra experiments testified publicly about their experiences for the first time.

So the cumulative impact of the church committee hearings, the document discoveries, and the survivor testimonies, was a profound

national trauma that fundamentally changed how Americans viewed their government. And for the first time,

since the founding of the Republic, significant numbers of citizens began to question whether their democratic

institutions could be trusted to respect basic human rights. And the revelations about MK Ultra

were particularly devastating because they violated Americans most fundamental assumptions about their country,

because this wasn't warfare against foreign enemies. This was the government conducting a medical experiments

on its own citizens, including children without consent and without any regard for any sort of consequence.

So just the scope of betrayal was staggering. And most disturbingly to most people

was the realization that the experiments had not been conducted by rogue agents or extremist organizations.

But the mainstream American establishment Ivy League universities prestigious

medical institutions and the nation's premier intelligence agency. Just everyone you think you could

trust most basically. So when Americans demanded accountability that discovered a system

designed for plausible deniability. And orders were given verbally, documents,

compartmentalized and responsibility diffused across agencies and contractors. As Sydney Gottlieb

The Operational Heart of MK Ultra had retired safely to California by 1973 pursuing a second career as a folk

dancer and speech therapist. I have no words. The transformation

was so complete it seemed almost designed to mock his victims. Because the man

who spent decades perfecting techniques to destroy human communication

was now helping children overcome speech impediments and during his limited

testimony to congressional investigators Gottlieb presented himself as a dedicated

public servant who had been forced to undertake distasteful

work and service for national security. It's not my fall.

They told me to do it. They only they just paid me and told me to do it.

I definitely didn't like it. I definitely didn't like it and tell them

that we should keep doing it for twenty

Fucking

years. And even during his testimonies he maintained that the programs

had been necessary responses to Soviet threats. And he would say

I want this committee to know that I found this work very difficult,

very pleasant, but very necessary. Shut the fuck up. And his voice

just carried the same clinical detachment he had brought to those

to selecting doses of LSD for unwilling participants.

But the testimony was a masterpiece of bureaucratic

deflection if you will. And Gottlieb acknowledged

that harmful things had happened

but portrayed himself as a reluctant participant rather than an

enthusiastic architect of the programs which is what he was.

And no criminal charges were ever

filed against Satan Sidney Gottlieb

which is fucking insane. And he would just

live quietly in California until his death

in 1999. In Alan Dulles to

Dulles Stools whatever the fuck authorized MK

ultra-1953 was already dead by the time the crimes came to light.

So I'd say he dodged a bullet but I know he's burning in hell so I will sleep

soundly at night knowing that. But even if he had lived his position

at the apex of American establishment

would have made prosecution practically impossible. He's

untouchable. Right and Richard Helms was defiant

rather than a apologetic about destroying the records. We're created

to torture children in the vulnerable. What?

So he defended the document destruction

as a routine administrative action designed to protect the CIA

sources and methods arguing that the experiments had been

legal under the standards of the time and necessary for national

defense. Fuck you. So because he

was the one that ordered the destruction of the documents Helms

received a misdemeanor conviction and a

suspended sentence. And he was find

two thousand measly dollars. And the judge

who imposed sentence praised Helms

for his years of service to the country. And

like the CIA officials who had

designed the programs most academic

collaborators escaped any sort of meaningful

consequence for their actions. And the

most damning aspect of academic

participation in MK ultra was

one of the current creation

of the Nuremberg Code which was

a set of ethical principles for human experimentation

that had emerged from the Nazi war

crime trials. And American prosecutors had

insisted medical experiments on human subjects

required informed consent. Do that

researchers who violated this principle should be

held criminally responsible. But

when American researchers

committed virtually was dramatically different as we know. And the University

administrators expressed regret for their past mistakes,

while emphasizing that the research had been

conducted with good intentions and

legitimate specific goals. I didn't

admit specific goal even the fucking

face you dump a most remarkably

many of the researchers who

had conducted conducted their academic

careers without any sort of interruption

they didn't get suspended. They would

receive their tenure, published papers

and trained new generation of

students as if their participation

in systemic torture had been a

minor career misstep rather than a

fundamental betrayal of medical ethics.

And you in Cameron whose

deep patterning experiments at Montreal's

alimemorial institute had destroyed dozens

of lives died in nineteen

sixty seven four years of

the five years before his

crimes became public knowledge. So the

official response to all of this

was carefully calibrated to a

knowledge wrong doing while limiting

consequences as we know. So

the strategy had two pillars.

One was managed to politics

which was expressed for past

mistakes. while avoiding mission of criminal liability.

Next was settlement strategy. which

was offering compensation change for broad releases

preventing further legal action.

Like the olson family getting $750,000.

So despite the overwhelming evidence of systemic violations

of federal laws, no one was ever

criminally prosecuted for the mk

ultra crimes. Prosecutors argued that cases

would be difficult given the

destroyed records and national security implications.

But the real reason was political.

As we now protecting the

intelligence community was more important than

accountability. And the decision not

to pursue criminal charges was made

At the

highest level of the justice department

after extensive consultation with intelligence

officials and political leadership. And

criminal trials would have forced

the government to reveal additional

classified information information about intelligence

operations potentially. which would expose

sensitive programs to public scrutiny. you know

again, more accountability. because God

knows what else they were doing at this time. And

now. And the statute of limitations provided

additional cover by keeping crime

secret for over 20 years

officials insured that they could never

be held legally accountable. I

don't know why this is that

why is statute of limitations the

thing. it's fucking saying to me

anyway. so this legal technology

became shield for individuals who had systemically

violated federal law. so the failure

to hold anyone meaningfully accountable, established

and dangerous precedent, which was

that government officials

learned that even a grieges violations of human

rights would result in nothing more than a congressional hearing

official apologies and modest settlements, which is horrifying.

but the message was very clear. as long as

the crimes were committed in the

names of national security and kept secret

long enough there were no real consequences on this legacy of impunity,

which shape intelligence community behavior for generations. contributing to

a culture where officials believed they could act outside the law

as long as they could justify their actions for national security.

it's the mk ultra-revolutions fundamentally

change how Americans viewed the government as we said before

casting a shadow that persists to this day and

every subsequent scandal would be measured against this standard. because

it could conduct a systemic torture experiment on children for

20 years what else might they

be capable of. I don't want to know

but I also need to know we

deserve to know and the victims received

acknowledgement but not justice. the

perpetrators faced embarrassment but not

punishments. and the institutions implemented

oversight but avoided fundamental examination

of how they enabled such violations.

and most troubling all the failure

of accountability sent a message that would resonate through American

political culture for decades. because when government officials commit crimes

in the name of national security, the system will protect them

rather than the victims. and America

had looked into the mirror and seen

a nation that had lost

its moral bearings in pursuit

of power. so the question that

would haunt the country for generations was

whether anyone would be held accountable when

such programs inevitably would happen again. and that is

that for mk ultra y'all

suggested this one it was you know it's a lot

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