NEW SHOW: The Truth About Natalie

In a new audio-chuk-limited series, the truth about Natalie, Hoshan-kip investigates the

“disappearance and death of 27-year-old Natalie Jones.”

What starts as a missing person's case uncovers allegations of abuse, hidden secrets, conflicting evidence, and one haunting question was Natalie the victim of a tragic accident, or did someone have a reason to silence her? Listen to the truth about Natalie now, wherever you get your podcasts. Hi Grime junkies, this week I'm taking my first like real real vacation since starting

this podcast eight and a half years ago, like truly unplugging can't be reached or at least

that is the hope as of this recording, wish me luck, but you know I would never leave you

hanging on a Monday, and actually I've been working on something bigger than a single episode to bring you while I'm going, I've been working on a lot actually, there is a fan club episode available this Monday now in video version on our YouTube channel, a case that will be totally new to any crime junkie who isn't in the fan club, and I already prepared a new episode

“for you next Monday, and while you wait, how about a limited series that I EP with Shonkip?”

I know that you guys get deeply invested in mysterious death of cases, and this one takes the cake, it begins when 27-year-old Natalie Jones disappears after leading a fourth of July gathering in Alabama, nearly three months later, Natalie is found dead inside her car hidden in the woods, kind of, but instead of this discovery bringing answers, this discovery only deepens the mystery, the truth about Natalie is a new audio check investigate series hosted

by investigative journalist Shonkip, through exclusive interviews, original reporting, and Natalie's own recordings, the series takes a closer look at what happened, and why people who knew and love Natalie believe that there are still important questions left unanswered.

“Today I'm going to share episode one of the truth about Natalie right here in the crime junkie”

feet, and if you like it, the second episode is available for you, wherever you get your podcast,

enjoy. This podcast discusses issues such as drug use, self-harm, sexual abuse, violence, and assault, listener discretion is advised. First let me say that I'm not mad and nobody. This is not well, I'm sharing my story, I'm sharing my story because this is my story, this is what

I made it out of. It's the truth, it happened. I have been ridiculed. This was wrong with the world these days because of the fact, people will get stuff done to them, and then they get ridiculed about it. Why? Why? It is very long road and God want me out of this, and I know he's with me, I know he has a plan, and that is the only reason why I'm sharing my story, because I'm hoping to help somebody

along the way to not give up no matter what. Natalie Jones was 27 years old when she died, not long after she recorded those words.

A free spirit, Natalie was kind, loving, and always smiling.

Or so it seemed. But behind that smile, lived pain hidden from much of the world around her. No one knew the secrets Natalie kept, that her life was a turbulent one, filled with years of trauma and abuse. She kept a facade that would eventually crumble away. She made it her mission to help others by sharing those painful experiences publicly. But in a tragic twist of fate, Natalie Jones wouldn't live long enough to tell her whole story,

a story that some believe may have played a role in her untimely death. Through journal entries, social media, video, and audio recordings, you'll hear Natalie in her own

candid and heartbreaking lens into her own personal struggles. To answer the question, was Natalie's death a tragic and unfortunate accident, or was it something much darker? Was Natalie killed in the process of publicly sharing the darkest chapters of her life and

“naming names? That's what I aim to find out. Everyone has a backstory and everyone has secrets.”

These are Natalie's secrets, and this is her story. The one she never had the chance to finish telling.

Now, I let him to pick up where she left off and find out what really is the truth about Natalie. I'm Sean Kipe from AudioChuck and Particle Entertainment. This is the truth about Natalie. My name is Sean Kipe. I'm an Atlanta-based podcaster and investigative journalist. For me, Natalie's story all began more than a year ago. That's when Jennifer Petersen contacted me seeking help. It involves the high profile case of Natalie Jones in 2020. She went missing and

was found under very suspicious circumstances, and we were fighting to get justice for her.

“Before Jennifer Petersen reached out to me, I had not heard the name Natalie Jones before.”

I asked her to send me some basic info about the case, and what Jennifer shared intrigued me.

She became involved in the search for Natalie shortly after she vanished in July of 2020, and has since emerged as one of Natalie's fierceest advocates. Jennifer Beweaves' foul play was involved in Natalie's death, and her dedication to uncovering what happened has been unwavering. She is incredibly well versed in every detail of this case. You'll hear from her often. Over the past few years, she's worked tirelessly with a small, determined team of

like-minded advocates for Natalie to piece together the truth. Throughout this time, she would send me frequent updates, theories, interviews, case files, and as their work deepened, I couldn't help but find myself drawn in. The case was complexing, and there was no

“clear explanation for what happened to Natalie Jones, and really that's what this podcast is all about.”

What really happened to Natalie? What events transpired in her life that ultimately led to her mysterious death, and is there someone responsible for her death? I do have the entire case file, which myself select group of others, and we do have a federal agent that will be reviewing the

case. I think a lot of people don't realize how powerful Natalie's story is. It is incredibly

powerful. Towards the end of 2024, I began to read through all the information I was sent once again, trying to wrap my head around what it all meant, trying to make sense of what happened, and determined if a crime had, in fact, even been committed. What I learned left moved the uneasy feeling that there could be more than Natalie's death than what lay on the surface. On the evening of Saturday, July 4th, 2020, Natalie left a party in Jackson's Gap, Alabama,

heading home about an hour and a half away to Corinth, Georgia. The intimate party she attended was a last-minute plan, a chance to relax and unwind. The year leading up to this point had been a rough one for Natalie. She had struggled to hold a steady job and have a permanent place to call home for her and her two young children, Trent and Isaac, who were both staying with their fathers for the weekend. Recently, Natalie moved back in with her mother Elaine and her roommate. She'd

planned to pick up her half-sister Tabithas to children early the next morning, and babysit them while Tabithas was at work. Wearing white jean shorts, a red and white striped shirt, and a pair of black sandals and blazing with sparkly plastic gemstones, she placed her phone and white oakly sunglasses into her bag and tossed it into her car. At some point, just before 11pm central time, she waved goodbye one last time through the windows of her hot pink,

2002 Chevy Cavalier, and drove into the night. The last text Natalie sent was at 12.52 a.m. saying, "I made it." Thanks. Much of what happened next remains a mystery more than six years later.

no sighting, since her family is desperately trying to find her. She left Alabama on July 5th,

heading for home, but she never became a Jones-went missing. All activity on her social

media and bank accounts is last seen in Jackson's gap Alabama in her hot pink shed. Is that her car? A bright pink 2000-2 Chevy Cavalier has it been spotted. Natalie never returned home that morning. Never showed up to watch Tabithas' kids as planned, and wasn't responding to texts or calls. Most concerning was that her phone went straight to voicemail, which it never did. Natalie was the type that was glued to her phone. They knew that

something was wrong, and I think that her mother really started screaming it out loudly the first. For Natalie's mother, Elaine Gordon, the panic instantly set in. The morning of July 5th, at like six o'clock in the morning, I started calling her phone.

I never called her phone that early. You know what I'm saying? And it started going straight to voicemail.

I called my roommate Ricky, and I said, "Go in there, pick a Natalie's room and see if she's in there." So he did. He come back. He said, "No." He says, "She's not in here." I said, "Go out there and see if her car is out." They're in the yard. He did, no. It wasn't out there.

“As a matter of fact, she didn't come home. That's what Ricky said.”

Elaine had spent the previous night of July 4th at her friend Sherry's house. Concerned, she went straight home. So I told Sherry, I said, "You need to get up. I said, you need to check me home right now."

I said, "My daughter's phone is going straight to voicemail, and I said, "This never happens."

It never happens. I'll give she's in the shower that phone is in the bathroom with her. You know, whatever, it's there. Elaine called the police shortly after getting home. But it was told she needed to wait 24 hours before Natalie was officially considered a missing person. She called the friends she had numbers for and her children's fathers with no luck. No one had heard from Natalie. She continued to text and call her phone, too, but each time there was no response,

and calls continued to go straight to voicemail. On Monday, July 6th, nearly 30 hours since Natalie last communicated with anyone, Elaine went to the heard county sheriff's office. It was Monday morning, I was down there. It's seven o'clock in the morning. Found the missing report. Her county investigator, Dan Boswell, is the officer who took the initial report and would take the lead on Natalie's case. You know, when you get a missing person report,

you're trying to gather as much information as you can about the person, the friends, the family, what's going on in her life at the time? And of course, Elaine and Tabitha, Natalie's sister, they provided information that we would start looking at to try and determine where she might be. And of course, in the very beginning, you're looking at this from an aspect, why is this person

“missing? What's going on in their life that created the situation that caused them to be missing?”

Or even to a point why did the time did Elaine or her sister release she was missing? Because they know her life better than anybody else. Despite this, Elaine tells me that at first, Lieutenant Boswell seemed to push back a bit, or at least offer other possibilities for Natalie's absence, ones which did not sit well with Elaine. She just wanted to get a bright she wanted to get away from her mama and her two boys. She ran away. And I told him, I said, let me tell you

something, her two boys are her world. I mean, she lives and does everything for her boys. And I said, me, you know, even though we might bicker about the grandchildren, it's me, heart and heart to boys. That's all I'll let a village consist of. As Jennifer Peterson tells me, that even if by some chance Natalie had split down or needed a break from life for a few days, as she was known to do from time to time, she wouldn't just ghost everyone.

She had plans on Monday that she would not have missed. Her son, her youngest son Isaac had a little accident in the pool and had to get a cast on his arm. And he was supposed to go back

“to the doctor that Monday. And that was when she was supposed to take Isaac to go get, I can't remember”

if it was just like an appointment or get the cast off or something like that. She would have been back to make that appointment. She loved her sons and poof, she's gone. So for her to just completely go missing, I think that was the first like red flag that something was wrong. And this is not

August always gives me major whiplash. Like I'll go to the store and see a display of Halloween

candy, but it's like 90 out and I'm still thinking about squeezing in one more beach day. And beach day to me means ice cream and ice cream in our house means my mochi. So scoop right past that Halloween candy and head to the ice cream aisle and look for the purple box. It is the perfect reminder that summer is still going strong. My mochi is premium ice cream wrapped in sweet chewy dough. It's creamy, it's refreshing and incredibly indulgent. Plus you guys it's gluten free and only around 70 calories

per piece. Strawberry is our household go to and I like to let it sit out just a little bit so the ice cream softens up but my four year old does not have the patience for that one extra minute

“between her and her ice cream. That is an eternity so she eats it right out of the freezer. Honestly”

though there's no wrong way to eat it. Buy it to it, pop the whole thing once in your mouth like my husband does it is your treat to have how you like it. Whether it's after the pool or after school taste the joy of every bite of my mochi. Look for the purple box of my mochi ice cream in the freezer aisle of your local grocery store and hold on to summer to still a little bit longer. An official investigation was opened by the herd county sheriff's department and flyers

went up around town. Not long after friends family and volunteers began searching local fields and long roadways. Even traveling every possible path they could find from Jackson's gap Alabama where the party was to Natalie's home in Corinth, Georgia. What else could a lean do?

“Sitting around and waiting for Natalie to call or show up wasn't an option.”

Oh I'm out looking. I've got my sister and a friend of mine. We ride in five and six seven hours a day. Looking for her and I mean we're we're we're we're we're we're everyone's talking everyone's riding around on their four wheelers or they're out in their cars. They're doing fit searches. The whole county is just crazy. Elaine and Natalie's friends were still calling anyone she might have spoken to or that might know where she could be though it was highly unlikely

that she would leave and not tell her mother or her children about her plans. Police began questioning

those closest to Natalie looking for information for a place to start. The first thing police

did was pull cell phone records in an attempt to locate Natalie or at least see who she'd been

“communicating with. For us one of the most important resources that assisted us in this investigation”

were her phone records. Had been her phone number was extremely important in determining who she last contacted, who she last text, location information, all those things become extremely important because you know with technology nowadays all that information is pretty closely available to you. While investigators worked to pull phone records, Elaine provided them with Natalie's movements beginning on July 3rd, the day before she disappeared. I was at my friend's house over at

a series and she came over and we swam, we grilled out steak, we danced, she left, probably about seven o'clock maybe and I said where you going and she said oh I'm just gonna go home and I said are you okay? Yeah you know she said stay here we're sharing and enjoy yourself. I stayed there. I didn't see Natalie on the floor because she took tabs as kids and got the daughters nails done you know she watched her kids that day. And Tabitha again is Natalie's half sister. They share

the same father or at least that's the consensus. No DNA test has ever confirmed this, Elaine has her doubts. Jennifer continues on with Natalie's known movements on July 4th. Natalie was a bit of a social butterfly, she bounced around, she was single and she ended up confirming with an old I would consider him the love of her life boyfriend that she had been putting feelers out with. He invited her out to come celebrate the fourth of July with

him and his family. Natalie initially was gonna come and she wanted to bring her Gunga Sun Isaac. He gave the indication that he didn't want the kids or the kids to come and she said sorry

she just kind of blew him off basically. When she picked up Tabitha's kids around noon on the fourth

Natalie confirmed she would go to the party. She took her knees to get her nails done while her nephew waited in the lobby playing games on his phone. She drops the niece and nephew off and she goes back home. She grabbed some things and then she heads off into Alabama. Initially, investigators

more, the clear of the picture would become. But with Natalie's case, everything learned about her actions that night only brought on more questions. News of Natalie's disappearance hit local media within days. Police asked local TV stations and newspapers to advertise their bolo for Natalie in her car that hot pink Chevy. Surely someone had to have seen that. And while they likely began this investigation just like they would any

other, Natalie's family didn't feel enough was being done initially. I know that there was a bit of back and forth between the family and law enforcement. They could not get hered county to organize a

“ground search so they organized one themselves. And I think there was a bit of frustration from”

Natalie's friends and family. They were saying that she didn't just run away. She wasn't trying to get away. This isn't like her. And I think that they were just trying to tackle everything as

best that they could early on because those early hours are so crucial. Several weeks after Natalie

was last seen or heard from and with few leads, social media began to do its thing. True crime buffs across the country picked up on Natalie's story and shared it on their platforms, creating a buzz. People took to podcasts, YouTube and TikTok to report on what was known about Natalie at the time, which really wasn't much. She had left the party and she had been seen since. They all seemed to focus on the fact that no one had seen her hot pink car. It became a calling

“card for Natalie. I've seen some crazy cars in various states. I've lived in and hot pink is”

it's pretty bold. That's a bold decision. And it's rare. But on top of that, how do someone vanish in a hot pink car? That was really the biggest. The hot pink car is the focal point for me. By midsummer, the story had gone national. Still, her county officials were tight-lipped on the case, making no official statements, which caused citizens and even local media to chime in and wonder why aren't they saying anything. Even if to simply dispel rumors as interested in the case

group. It became worldwide headlines at that point. You know, Natalie's case started off with local headlines and then it rolled up into regional headlines, making Atlanta news coverage and whatnot, and then it shot all the way up to Daily Mail, which is worldwide. Dr. Phil, people, Nancy Grace, and at that point, it's pretty standard in my opinion that a press conference is owed to the public

and that never happens. Looking back, Lieutenant Boswell agrees that it was a mistake to keep the media

in the dark the way they did. It only fueled speculation and fear in an already tense and emotional situation. During an investigation, you got to be careful with the information you release, because if there is somebody that's possibly going to, you may look at, you don't want to release that information. And that's standard in any investigation, right? The one thing I would have done differently is, I mean, while we did get out on the news to try and put out there that she's missing

“and a description of card and her and as much of that information as we could, I think what I would”

do differently now is I would get ahead of the social media flurry of the information that came in

that was so inaccurate and misleading and put it out to the public first off that we are that

were working the case, right? And just keep them updated as much as we can on that information. Then, Elaine and other members of Natalie's family started receiving odd and increasingly disturbing messages, like the one that Natalie's sister Jessica Bishop received. "I just started texting from some numbers that I don't know that says that they have Natalie issue six and that there's a ransom of $7,000."

Coupled with silence from investigators, rumors spread throughout the community, like wildfire. The theories were just all over the place during those days. You know, law enforcement approached her to be a witness and they put her in protective custody. They put her through a woodtipper at this landscaping company and then they poured acid on what was left to dissolve it. Natalie was in the back of a truck in a cooler, she was frozen. Natalie was in witness protection

"There were unconfermed sightings of Natalie or her car. Several attempts at extortion,

“one from his far away is California. Even some who said Natalie was murdered and they knew what”

happened to her but provided no real evidence." That she was tied up, you know, and being mistreated, I even received a phone call saying that to come up with $5,000, you know, and I could get my baby back. And I said, "Okay, I said, let me speak to her. Let me hear her voice. Let just let her say something." You know, and I mean, I'd done made arrangements. I was just to put the towel up from the vehicle that I'd done, just got, you know, I mean, I was physically coming up with that money.

If he would've showed me a picture, I'd let me hear her voice. And then he went all way down

to $100, time I hate wanting to get his baby doll for Christmas." Much of what's circulated online was dismissed as baseless gossip in rumor. By August, police had utilized every available tool to track Natalie's movements. But progress was agonizingly slow. They scanned footage from traffic cameras and analyzed cell phone data from the morning of July 4th, hoping for even the faintest trace of Natalie.

Investigators checked her bank activity, finding no transactions or cash withdrawals since July 2nd. helicopters comb the area and aerial searches. In officers followed up on every lead or possible sighting, yet every effort seemed to lead to another dead end. As the week stretched on, the hoops surrounding the search began to slip away. Elaine Gordon found herself consumed with questions. Was her daughter still out there, which she ever seen, Natalie again. In looming over

“everyone involved in the case was an unanswered question, where could Natalie Jones be?”

It's just it's so perplexing to think about how does someone fall off the face of the earth. Over the summer of 2020, as the world grappled with COVID, the search for Natalie Jones intensified. Investigators now working with assistance from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation uncovered a series of puzzling clues. They learned from her family that Natalie applied for a passport and planned to trip to Kabul San Lucas, Mexico, allegedly with a scheduled flight

on July 8th, so they wondered, could she have changed her flight and left early to get away? She applied for her passport weeks earlier, but it wasn't issued until July 15th, week after she disappeared. The GBI inquiry confirmed that Natalie had not left the country,

“at least not legally. Following multiple leads, authorities searched properties across the”

county, responding to reports that Natalie had been tied up in a remote cabin, drugged, even killed. Each location turned up empty, no sign of Natalie, her car, or evidence that she'd been there. That's when all sorts of things started just coming out about this. She was being sex-trafficked, and some white spurred. We went there, and we went to all these houses, and nothing was going on at these houses. We spoke to people. There was some supposedly some

cabin in white spurred, where they were going to. This information was just coming in from various individuals in that circle that people who knew Natalie or Elaine at the time. We got the drug task force involved. We got the GBI involved. We went door to door, and knocked on all these doors. All these people asking questions that just neighbors and everything came up with zero.

So we were just, we were inundated with a whole bunch of leads that ultimately led to nowhere.

On August 11th, Natalie's sister Tabitha was interviewed by investigators. She revealed shocking details. Just days before Natalie's disappearance, her recent ex-boyfriend, Jonathan, had shown up at Tabitha's house on announced while Natalie was visiting. Jennifer elaborates further. What we had initially heard is that Jonathan came to Tabitha's house, and Natalie was there, and they were hanging out on the front porch. He came over within one to three days before she

vanished, and just pulled up like knowing that she was there. He allegedly was making statements about wanting to get by. Together with her, it was just this kind of macho, possessive. We're going to be together, and Natalie had made a statement somewhere along the lines of,

down for this. Jonathan had been out on bonds since April of 2020, stemming from charges for

“trafficking meth, and had to wear a court-ordered ankle monitor. Shortly after Natalie went missing,”

he was arrested again this time for influencing whittness, breaking his bond terms and was sent back to jail. Then, in late September, investigators heard the most disparaging news to date. The cellmate of Jonathan's came forward to police with a startling claim. There was a inmate that came forward, who was incarcerated with Jonathan in August and late August of 2020, that gave testimony that Jonathan had told him that he being Jonathan and Natalie

were together in Alabama, and there were two other guys present. One of them wanted to have sex

with Natalie, and asked Jonathan for permission to have sex with her. He agreed to it, and there was, you know, some choking involved, which led to Natalie's demise, and then she was

“chopped up. According to the GBI file, the inmate then told police that Jonathan said,”

after Natalie was dead, and her body dismembered, they disposed of the remains in a salt mine, somewhere in Alabama. But even as so me, it was initially skeptical of Jonathan's story. How would he confess this to someone he'd only just met? Still, the confession was taken seriously,

because what if? You can't always discount them because you just never know, you know,

addicts speak truth. People in jail cells will speak truth. You can't, you know, discount it then. By early October of 2020, Natalie's case had been shared around the globe, and had created a buzz on social media. It eventually attracted the attention of adventures with purpose, a crowd-funded team of volunteer divers who traverse the country, looking for missing

“persons and lakes and rivers. They arrived in herd County, Georgia, around October 4th,”

after hearing of Natalie's case from subscribers on their YouTube page. Adventures with purpose showed up largely unannounced and began searching bodies of water in the area, as that was another theory of the locals that Natalie's cars somehow ended up in a lake, or pond in Georgia. But just as adventures with purpose got to work on October 6th, news broke that no one saw coming. While Samuel Ginn and his partners with adventures with

purpose were searching various ponds in the area for Natalie, they got word that her pink car had been found. Breaking news in the search for a missing Georgia mother, Natalie Jones. Tonight, a somber confirmation from the GBI investigators confirmed that her car has been located and sadly, the body of a young woman was found inside. The GBI tells us the car belongs to Natalie Jones, but the GBI has not confirmed it the body inside is hers.

The car was located near the intersection of Roosterville Road and Welcome Road in Roopville, Georgia. That's when a nephew of the landowner was hired to bush hog the property and stumbled upon it. Parked along the tree line of the property and partially covered with overgrown weeds. The car's bright pink color was unmistakable. A stark contrast to the shades of green and brown surrounding it. There was no question. The unthinkable had happened. This was the car they've

been searching for over the past 93 days. In the driver's seat, where the remains of a woman, and although forensic testing needed to confirm the identity of the deceased, to most, it was obvious. There remains where those of 27-year-old, Natalie Jones, the search was over. Elaine tells me which she remembers of hearing this soul-crushing news. That this time, I had done put my mattress on the living room for a sleeping and living room,

you know, by the door. I just didn't want to go on my room. I was so tired. I was just, I couldn't home. I was open. You know, I was just so worn out, mentally, physically, the whole nine yards. And all the horrible thoughts were sitting in my head, but my baby, somebody got us, somebody holding us, somebody mean to her. If my sister, she's seen her county come down to my house and she said, "Oh Lord,

"Let me go in here and be with her." I know what you're all here for.

“They came in, and this woman, she squatted down and she said, "Miss Gordon,”

we found Natalie's car." And she's deceased. Whoa. I jumped up and I saw a scream at them talking about y'all about your failure. Y'all didn't do nothing. I told them to get out of my house. I said, "I tell you, you get the F out of my house. Right now." You're probably seeing a devil in my eye. I wasn't in my punch. I just didn't want I just had went berserk, and so I wouldn't know if I'd take me down there at the same.

Elaine's worst fear had seemingly just become a reality. She did eventually collect herself enough to go to where Natalie's car was found. Tabitha had stopped by it to see if she heard the news yet,

“and gave her a ride. By the time she arrived, people had already begun congregating down the road”

from Natalie's car, because the hosts of adventures with purpose were already live streaming on YouTube. Investigators pushed everyone back and cordoned off the area, treating it as a potential crime scene. Not even Elaine was allowed to see Natalie's body. When I got down there, I like started like, "Go up to the thing." And they told me to stop. You can't go past this thing. One of the devotees had his foot popped up on a front of a car, and that was a bunch of

pilot's cars up there. Elaine set bewildered in the passenger seat of Tabitha's car. Her shoulders sagging from the weight of learning of her daughter's death. Unable to fully process what was happening, all she could do was cry between long periods of expressionless stairs. All anyone else could do is try to console her. After giving statements to local news, it was nothing left for her to do, but go home, grief, and wait for answers. I was in shock. You know, I was in like, I was like in total

“shock. I couldn't believe it. I mean, it was like, how could somebody do this to her?”

I just screamed. I screamed so long, so many times. I could blame my baby when coming home. I seemed as my world, as she was my rock. She kept me in line, young sand, where I was just a big screw up. Now it was time for police to pick up the pieces and figure out what happened. How did Natalie end up dead in her car? Why was she parked in this overgrown field in a rural

part of the county? Why did she send a text message saying she made it home when clearly she never did?

And the biggest question of all was Natalie's death the result of some tragic accident. What was it murder? For answers, investigators needed to comb through the evidence. And what was found, did anything but provide a clear picture of how Natalie Jones's life ended, and instead only sparked more fear, doubt, and speculation. She was slumped down in the sea. She was barefoot. She was missing her belt that she was wearing that day.

There were strands of hair in the door jam. She was missing teeth, multiple teeth. We were not in the car. We were not in our clothes. They're not on the ground when you open the door. They didn't all out. Where are those teeth? Is that the way you want to find somebody? That's not.

I can still see it in my under right now. The thing of nightmares that I will never be able to

shake ever again might get changed to me. There's some things that just don't add up. It doesn't look like a natural cause of death. I totally believe she was murdered. If you're already hooked, you can listen to the second episode right now. Just search the truth about Natalie, wherever you get your podcasts. And don't forget, you can also watch a new video episode of CrimeJunkey today over on the CrimeJunkey YouTube channel. And I'll be back with you next week.

I'm Chuck original, produced by particle entertainment. I wrote and produced the series.

Natalie Jones, original music written and performed by Jackson Epley, and a special thanks to

“Elaine Gordon and her family. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence,”

help is available at the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 899-7233. You can find me on social media at shonkipofficial or at shonkip.com. And you can email me any information about this case

“to [email protected]. Don't forget to rate and review the show wherever you listen to podcasts.”

And as always, thanks for listening.

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