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I've done blind. Today's guest is one of the internet's most recognizable faces. A reality star, most importantly an advocate, and one of the funniest people you'll ever meet. Hey, Lindsay Frey, welcome to Dunflon. Thank you so much for having me. I am beyond excited to be here. Thank you so much. You look so beautiful. Thank you so much. You look like you have this new
“bride glow to you. Thank you. Yeah, I love it. What's it feel like being a wifey now?”
I love being a wifey. One of the things that I've released is the hardest, so this is just so simple. Is I have no idea how to write my new name when we are at like restaurant, sound like paying, or like I'm going to shop somewhere, and I'm like oh, I need to practice. I need to practice, but I love it. It feels like we've been honestly married for like a long time, just because we choose each other every single day regardless of fights or tears or laughs
or excitement or love, like we choose each other every single day. So it's always really
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soon as we started dating, probably like five months after that, three months after that, I started the TV show, so he's been a part of it the entire time. Yeah, I love it for you guys and congratulations, I know I told you guys on every first walk and I'm going to have to tell you publicly also,
“I'm just so excited for you guys being married, and I think you guys are with the cutest couple.”
So I know this is a deep subject to jump into just off the bat, but I was so excited about hearing you speak about an advocating for women who have indomitriosis. That is something that's dear to my heart because I'm going through that with my IVF journey, and I feel like so many people need somebody like you to look up to to talk about these things. Can you tell me about your journey with the indomitriosis? My journey, so what I was about in eighth grade, so I was like probably,
I'm not going to do the math and inverse myself. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. I can't actually either unless it's funny. So I was really young and I figured that I was having like a lot of
Pain with my periods.
very painful, and to the point like it would get like, I couldn't walk, because I'd be hunched over, I was extremely, also I'd extreme constipation to the point where I'd be in the hospital. I've had to miss school because of it, but I was clinically diagnosed when I was in eighth grade,
“and I got on birth control, and I skipped a placebo. That's what the placebo pills that”
basically regulate your period. For me to get my period, it makes indomitriosis worse, so I just skipped it, so I haven't had a period since then, which has been forever, but also at the same time, it's prevented a lot of pain, and when I just went in for looking at the indomitriosis specialist, we go on the show, and you get to see me go and see an indomitriosis specialist, because we do want kids, we want kids in the future, and it's very, very important to us. I have a big family,
and he's the youngest kid in his family, so he's always wanted to be a young dad,
and it's always a dream of ours to have kids, but there's always the reality of the possibility of not being able to have kids, and the most important thing is that we've had those conversations, and we've come to a realization that we do have options, and there is ways to come about it, but they're also so hard, and so expensive, and so exhausting, probably on your body, and what it does to female organs, and things like that, but I was clinically diagnosed,
“and then I was re-diagnosed on the show, because the only way to truthfully find out if you have”
indomitriosis is through sucking dick, is through going and getting the surgery for it, to find actual proof. She said that 80% of women that come in with indomitriosis to get an ultrasound done, to find out if they have it. It doesn't come up on there, because they actually need the surgery to go and find the lesions and the scar tissues and the old cysts and the cysts that are built over top of it. So the journey has been long, finding out what's been going on, but it's also
been so hopeful, and so reassuring that I'm not just making up this pain, or I'm not just feeling it and it's not like, if it was something else, I just didn't want to go in thinking that like, I was making this all up. It would be great to know if I didn't have a really, really severe case of indomitriosis, but I also wanted to know, I really don't want to be making something up. I really don't want to be like feeling something that's completely wrong, or maybe I'm like,
over exaggerating or be over dramatic, or, "Oh God, I want it up," or anything like that. So to go in and like actually get reassured on my symptoms and everything that's going on and that there is a possibility of us having kids, but it's also like nobody really knows the possibility of anyone having kids and maybe you try to have kids, and that's kind of the best advice she gave us, and obviously we're not trying to have kids right now. We just got married. We're trying to
enjoy our married life a little bit, but I think it's amazing that you are being so vocal, because young girls actually really need to know about this, because as I was growing up,
“I used to have to like miss school. I remember my first period when I was, I think it was like”
12 or 13, and it was the most horrific cramping that I had ever had, and then that followed me all the way up until I was finally diagnosed with endometriosis, and I mean, you can ask my
team, I have to take days off. We schedule my schedule around my period, because we never know
how bad it's going to be, but do you know one thing that I have found that has really alleviated my symptoms with endometriosis is microdosing a tiny bit of tries up a tide. Have you ever microdose like GLP ones or anything like that? So I'm actually, that's a great question. I'm on a GLP one right now. I've been on it for about a year. I'm the medication that I take for my bipolar, makes me excessively gain weight. So when I first took the medication, I gained about 30 pounds
and about three months, 20 to 30 pounds and about three months. It was rough, especially since you have the entire internet, and everyone commenting, and everyone saying something, and everyone calling
me whale in. I've never heard that one before. So it's just kind of, it's hard to like my great
going through like body problems and then also trying to be a social media advocate at the same time, because you want to like tell everyone to feel confident and feel good and love yourself, and you only
Have one you, got only gave you one you.
you go around and you feel insecure too, but we're also all human, and we all can't be perfect.
“I know what it's like to try to navigate that as I was going through IVF, it put weight on me,”
and people would be like, oh, she's bigger than her husband now, and like it's, and you're literally trying to make a baby with your body, and it's like people just have no respect. The internet is just so crazy, but I've learned that it's just miserable people who have nothing better to do than just comment on other people's lives, so you can't ever let that get to you. No, but my neurologist was telling me because she's the one that prescribed me the GLP1
for the increase in weight gain, and um, where was I going with the other GLP1's helping with endometriosis? Yes, she brought up about how the inflammation that goes on with your body, the GLP1 helps reduce that and like with endometriosis, it's that inflammation, so I've definitely seen increase like, I've periodically like gone off of it, like, for certain things and certain reasons, and when I do, I'm like immediately, I need to get back on because I don't, you can feel a
difference. I can, it's like insane, and I'm like, obviously not doing it for a trend. I'm not doing it to fit in. I'm not trying to do it to be skinny, doing it because, well, I actually need it. It's like pain management. Yeah, um, my stomach would, for like after I did the IVF from my, you know,
“you have to pump yourself full of like estrogen and all these hormones, so the endometriosis just”
fed off of that. My lower stomach would like pooch out, and I mean, the belly. Yeah, and it looked like I was like three months pregnant and it would not go away. The only thing that took it away was take, it was microdosing the GLP1, and I think that more people need to know about that because it's not just for weight loss. Like, we're really trying to like get our bodies in, in check in an order, and that, and getting the inflammation down is probably the number one thing that you could do for your
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about that. If you're also very open about your bipolar disorder and also OCD, but I've never heard
you really, I have OCD myself and I'm fascinated with all the different types of OCD that there are. I never realized until I was actually diagnosed with OCD, how many different types of OCD there are? What exactly is your OCD? My OCD is a lot of negative, intrusive thoughts that then build up to things happening that spiral into death. I've started realizing I have a lot of fears with like, okay, if I leave the house today, then and I get in a ride chair or an Uber, what if I get in a
car accident and then my leg breaks or like, I'm dead. I can't leave the house. I can't leave the house today. Maybe I'll try tomorrow. I'll go for a walk. Maybe the walk I'll be fine. Maybe I won't trip. Like, it's very, very intricate. It used to be for a small period of time germs. I won't even drink out of my husband's drink at the time. Like, it was or that. I won't do sweaty hugs. I
Want to do hand shakes.
like, your hands are like, probably one of the dirtiest parts of your body. I wore gloves to my meat and greets. Yes, because this is a sweaty hand. I'll think about it all night. Yes, if I touch a sweaty hand or if I hug somebody and they're sweaty. Or immediately, like, I had to like immediately go shower afterwards or like, I would only scrub my hands like a repetitive amount of times. I do everything in threes, which I've been to ERP therapy for. It's definitely helped, but it's definitely
“something that like, you have to do when you're ready because it's so motivationally driven by”
yourself. Like, there was one point where my ERP therapist was telling me, she's like, and we work with a lot of people that have the fear of throwing up and how we build up to that is, well, we watch videos of people throwing up and then exposure there. Yes, like, we're going through everything and then she's like, we practice. And I was like, what? What? Okay, this sounds, this isn't sounding normal. Okay, but I did do exposure therapy, especially for the horse
for the wedding. That was still up in the air. Ah, so did you have to go and shake sweaty hands and hug sweaty people for your exposure therapy or how did that work out? So my exposure therapy specifically was around horses. Okay, I was petrified of horses and a part of me, I did it for him because he wanted one at the wedding and I needed to get familiar with being around a horse.
“And then another part of me, I wanted to do it because horses are so therapeutic. They're”
apeutic and beautiful and just perfect for people that are neurodivergent and I've always wanted
to feel that way. So when I went through the therapy, like, we got close to the horse. I got to touch the horse. I got to brush the horse. I got to ride the horse. I got to, well, that and then I also played with it's shit. Really? Yes, I did. Okay, you, I did it. We need to be in depth about this. So why are we fondling turds? What is happening? Because I have the fear of germs. So I had to rub shit on my hands without gloves on without gloves on. I had to get it in my, like, she's like
scraping it underneath my nails and I look at her. This was, I'm all fucking died. I don't know if it was in the episode. I have no idea, but there was a part of it that was cut out when I asked her, I said, so how often do you get sick? And she's like, I'm not going to answer that question right now. And I was like, okay, well, you're like, you want to be therapy and we can't, we canceled the therapy the first time because she was sick. So I was like, okay, there's a pattern here. There's a pattern here.
“And she actually put turds on the horse shit on your nails. Yes, it was, you have to be like”
very, very motivated to do it because at first I was like, I'm not doing this. And then I was like, I got to get old. I like, I, like, I wouldn't even be able to like eat sandwiches with my hands because my hands were infected and contaminated by germs. So I wouldn't be able to pick up the sandwiches or like, eat chips in depth. So I was just like, and maybe I'll just do it and maybe it will do something. And it did do something. I did the hardest thing. I possibly could have
ever imagined. And then I never have to do it again. And now all of those fears are gone, but it's
definitely shocking. Like, you sit there and you're like, probably not. Yeah. Like, I had to, we're better women than I. Yeah. I do, I don't leave the therapy. I was like, I don't think I can be doing this anymore. I like how fucking cool is that, though. Like, I'm so proud of you because I don't think people who don't battle OCD don't realize how huge of a, like a triumph that was for you because I, I'm, I will pet horses all hang out with them all right. I'm, I'm not touching
their shit. And especially getting it under my nails. There's no fucking way. Like, not in the morning. It was, it was, it was interesting. No, I. And especially with everyone just watching me do it, I was like, wow, this is like, okay, girl, my hat goes off to you, sister. Well, let's switch gears. Let's talk a little bit about your family because you guys seem incredibly close. It's double hate. And so who's the funniest member of your family? Berkeley, my oldest brother. Yeah,
stand up comedian. Yeah, funniest person in the room. Also, you would never guess the most quiet,
like, like, also like, very sticks to himself. Like, quietest person, biggest stage fright. We'll never do stand up. We'll never stand in front of crowds, never do anything like that. What is the funniest part? I mean, he's the funniest person. I love that, though. Who do you think the favorite child is out of you guys? Me or spendlin? She answered that quickly. So she's like me or spendlin, you said spendlin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that totally. And what's a family story that
Gets brought up at every holiday, whether you like it or not?
that make people think. I know there's got to be one. There's so many, but I can't think of any
“right now. Like, family, because Thanksgiving is different every year. It's always like”
at different places. And so it's always like different with the people that are there because
sometimes you can't say so. So I just, I don't know, we can circle back. We'll start back to that. If it comes to you during the interview, you just interject and we'll put it in. Let's move on to understanding your story a little bit. I know you have spoken about your journey so many times, but for people who possibly could have never come across you on TikTok, let's talk about the journey of when you first started noticing symptoms of your Tourette and what that experience was
like for you. I started really knowing that I was different than everybody when I was probably, like, I knew that I had takes when I was younger, but I didn't know that until I was older. I didn't know what I was really experiencing, thought everyone did what I did. And also at the time, it was so less complex that it was just hard to tell. And I also at the time had a lot of learning disabilities and things like that. I was at the time trying to, I got held back. So there's
a lot going on at that stage. What was the question? We're talking about when you first started experiencing the symptoms. So how old were you when you, when you were younger, what were your ticks like though that you had noticed as a child? They were a lot of neck movements. And then as I
got older, I started realizing that I always used to flex my, like, I still do. I always used to
flex my thigh muscles. And I always felt like I had to do it. And I had to keep going until like the urge went away. But I never really knew what that was until I was older. And I found out when I learned what ticks are because they're so complex. And you have no idea kind of what they can be or how they can manifest. But I was around the age of 15. And I had this throat clearing tick that sounded like my throat was closing. And I went, I had a cardiologist at the time.
And I went to the cardiologist and I was like, I just, I just, I just had, like, I just have this feeling in my throat. And I have to keep doing it. It won't stop until it's like fulfilled. And he's like,
sounds like you have a throat closing issue. You might need surgery. I'm like, okay, I'm going to
see somebody else. Thanks a lot, dude. So then I started experiencing like little neck ticks like this or things like that. But it was, it was really like when I was in school and I started noticing those things when I was like 16, 15 years old. And my friends at the time would be like, why are you doing that? And it was the friend group I had at the time. And I had no idea. I had no idea. It was twice at the time. I was like, oh, it's a heart, it's my heart thing. It's like this thing, it was
that thing. Like, I had no idea. And then like, when I was actually diagnosed at 16, I went to the doctor before COVID happened. He diagnosed me. And then I went back during COVID because it got so bad from like being sheltered. I'm a social butterfly as much as I have social anxiety. I just love to be around people. I love to be around love. I love to just be around everybody.
“Can't love a girl. Yeah, I don't like to be lonely. I don't like that feeling. Where's I going with this?”
Um, we're talking about just how, you know, after you got diagnosed at 16. Oh, yes, I'm so sorry. No, you're kidding. I got your girl. I'll keep you on track the whole time. Thank you so much. Um, I actually went back because my ticks were so bad. I had to take that. I was hitting my foot off my head. And I went in there and he was like doing all these exams and he was looking at me and he was just staring at me for maybe like 30 minutes like examining my ticks. And he's like,
yeah, you don't, you don't have threats. I don't know what you have. I don't know what's going on. But you can't, you shouldn't leave the house. You shouldn't work. You shouldn't drive. You definitely shouldn't go to college. Um, stay at home. You do not fit in with society. And I was like,
“okay, so I take this man's medical license because like what kind of fucking advice is that?”
And then he goes to tell us he's like, I actually, I can't even see you as a patient anymore. I don't even specialize in movement disorders. I specialize in epilepsy. So we wasted all of my time by diagnosing me, undiagnosing me. And then sending me off. So I went to the Mayo Clinic in
Rochester.
so hard with like, um, getting medicines and treatment and everything because everything really isn't covered by insurance. So like the CBIT therapy cognitive behavioral intervention for ticks is in covered by insurance. And it's very, very expensive. And when I went to the Mayo Clinic, the lady was like, oh, I see, I see thousands of people that have threats. I see hundreds of thousands. Like this is definitely what Tourette says, Shomu Puput, though. We wasn't. However, good luck finding
help. There's only 10 hospitals in America that do CBIT therapy. Um, good luck finding a doctor in your state that does Tourette's or specializes in Tourette's or movement disorders. Um, good luck.
I never once was told about the threat association of America, which is the only place I really
have ever felt welcomed as somebody with Tourette's, um, because it's an entire community of just all my tick friends. Like it's just, it's just great to like let them know that I can be a voice
“for them and let them know that I always have my community. Always. I think you've created such”
a, like, you've created such a conversation for for people who do have Tourette's. And I don't want to say you've made it look cool because I feel like that's insensitive, but you've made it look like it's not this, um, this disability that people can't still live and be free and be happy. And like you have just broken down so many barriers and so many walls for so many people.
Um, what do you wish that people understood about Tourette's syndrome? What do you wish that
more people understood about Tourette's syndrome? I wish that people understood that people don't tick 24/7 if I'm in my apartment and I'm watching a movie with my husband. My ticks are like non-existent because you feel safe. I feel safe. I'm in my safe space, but also my safe space also means if I come back from a really stressful environment and I'm holding in my ticks, that's my safe space. So my ticks are also so loud and so obnoxious and
can be so abrupt, but they also can be so calm as well. And I just wish that people like saw that side, I wish people saw the side of like me listening to music with headphones like when I go to
the airport and I sit and my sit in my chair, I put headphones on and I maybe tick 10 times the
entire flight depending on how long the flight is. Longed in is a bit long. Oh my gosh, international flying is crazy. I don't even like it. So I couldn't imagine.
“What uh, what has been the most challenging part emotionally going through this journey for you?”
The most challenging part is probably the fact that I try so hard to demonstrate Tourette's in the most possible beautiful way I can. And I just wish people didn't approach me by my ticks or they just didn't say the ticks. Like when people have Tourette's when you repeat their ticks, it sets their ticks off. So like when people come up to me and they're like, oh my god, I love you Tourette's girl and I'm like, oh okay, I'm like, you want to be no yeah,
you want to get in these. Call me Bailey or something at this point. Yeah, I'm fine with that name wrong. But I just, I just, I feel like that's so unsensitive too to walk up to somebody and just say that or the hardest part is like I'm training. Yes, like I share my life and I do the best I can. But there's sometimes where I mess up and there are some days where like I don't show the good days. And I don't show what it's really like to like sometimes live through those good
days. And I just wish that like people understood that I'm like trying my best to portray what my life looks like. But I also don't want to be on social media 24/7 because sometimes it can get really time consuming and really just consuming in general with everything. And I really try to be as present as possible with everything in life. So I just wish people would just realize that I'm trying my best to show what Tourette is and sometimes I make mistakes and I don't show every side or maybe
“I don't show sides in the best way. But I just wish people understood that you don't tick 24/7.”
And I'm doing the best I can to show that. I think you're doing a great job. Thank you so much. Don't be so hard on yourself. I think you're doing a great job. And I think there's a lot of people that look up to you. I mean, give your own trick and TV show for God's sake. Like you're doing the damn thing sister. So let's talk about how you were discovered and all this stuff. You're your social media and kind of like finding your purpose on social media. What inspired you
to start sharing your life online? So I originally did not have TikTok. When I was in high school,
I was like, I'm not doing TikTok dances.
than I was now. Like I just wasn't really prone to showing that. And then I got on social media,
“made a couple videos. And at this time, like I didn't want it to be about my Tourette's because my”
Tourette's was so minimal in my life. My ticks were very minimal. I was probably ticking 10 to 20 times a day, like depending on the environment, my nerves and everything that went on that day. So I didn't want it to be about that until one day. Like I was saying, my ticks got really, really bad before COVID, but before then I was like only ticking 10 times a day. I didn't really know what was going on with me. And so I had to reintroduce myself to all my friends, all my family,
all my relatives, all my loved ones. And be like, this is who I am now. I'm still bailing, just have a little extra feature. So a girl followed me around the store without me acknowledging on social media, acknowledging to any of my friends. I stopped being friends with everybody because I was so embarrassed by who I was. I didn't want to reintroduce myself. I didn't want anybody
“to know who I was. I was in therapy like four times a week, three times a week. And I just”
didn't want to have to, I don't know where I was going again. It's okay. You were talking about what inspired you to start sharing your life online because when you started, you weren't having the ticks that you started getting as you got a little bit older. Yeah, I was following it around the store and she was laughing and pointing and making fun of me. And I was like, I didn't know where the video was going to go. I assumed that it was put out on social media to make fun of me. That's
only what I was what I assumed. And so I went home that night and I was like, I'm going to make her feel dumb. I'm going to make her feel really stupid about taking a video and making fun of somebody that has a disability in public. So I went online and I was like, hey, like, I tried making this
video from another video that went that went and got like a million views. I tried like explaining
myself and I was like, I'm not going to hide anymore. This is giving me motivation to just share who I am and I went on social media. And I shared a video of basically explaining what happened and I was just opened up about having threats. I have threats in terms of stupid. And it like went viral and everybody thought I was faking and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't know this is what people thought. Yeah, I didn't know that this was the first thing that come to come to come to mind,
but I just wanted to just take my power back from her and just have the truth be told from my mouth and just make her feel dumb for doing that. And I mean, Kudos to you because that is such a super power because some people would have like, you know, it could have gone a different way and you could have been like more depressed or even like suicidal over that girl doing that to you. And instead you stood up to your bully and showed her and everybody else online like, hey,
this is what's going on. It's not okay what she did and I'm going to empower myself. So I mean, I'm really proud of you for doing that. So did you have any idea that your videos would resonate with so many people though, once you actually did come out and like the outpouring of love that you started to get? No, I had no idea. I had absolutely no idea. I had no idea that that video was going to blow up between me starting in November and me going on Doctor Phil and March, I had
three million followers. Wow. I had no idea that that was going to happen and I started realizing like I joked around one time with my friends. I was like, oh my god, I want to drop out of college so bad. What if we just became social media influencers? What that way? We can move to the or have a good time and I don't know if I manifested it or something or Jesus heard me, but it ended up happening and it's just crazy. I'm so blessed for the amount of love that I've been given because
I felt like I was in such a dark place and that I would never be loved and that I would just
have all these terrible thoughts towards myself. So it's just I'm very, very blessed with the life that I've been given and the way that I've been able to impact others and be the voice for people that don't feel like they have one is really the only reason I do what I do. I love it. What is one of your favorite fan interactions? It was your favorite thing that I mean, a story and then what is your favorite thing that fans do when they come up to you? I've met so many incredible
“people. I love talking about every single one of them, but I think the most one that resonates with”
me and with him. We were in a jepoltlay and we're sitting down and we're having dinner and this guy comes up and he's like, I'm so sorry to interrupt you guys, but I know you and we're like, okay, yeah, I love me to meet you all. So if you go, I'm a behavioral therapist. My wife is a special needs teacher. We've been waiting for something to come out like this for 10 years. We've been
Waiting for advocacy and for disability awareness and invisibility, disabilit...
it really resonates a lot because I just love meeting people. I really do. I love meeting a
face behind a follower and a supporter and somebody that really loves and supports me and cherishes my life. So it's just really good to know that I've met a lot of really, really good people. And my favorite thing when people come up to me is probably like everyone's so it's so funny. Everyone's so surprised how nice I am when they meet me in person. And they're so sorry. So it's so like shocking to me when people call to me like, oh my god, I thought you're going to be so
mean and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? When would they ever get back? I actually get that from. But I just, I love meeting everyone in every interaction so different sometimes, but the good ones definitely outperform the, the bad ones. Yeah, good. Have you ever had any bad fan experience? Oh my god, tons. No way. Tons. I have to hear tons. How could you have a bad fan experience?
That is so weird to me. The first time I started social media, I was, I was just my
ex-boyfriend and we were in a mall and this guy comes up and he's like, oh my god, are you the girl that fakes Tourette? And I was like, oh, I was like, what? I was like, no, I like, I have it. And he goes, whatever, do you want to get a photo? And I was like, no, no, I don't. Yeah, like, I've had people record ball yell out the windows of cars when I'm walking and be like, oh my god, we fuck with you Tourette's girl. Like, what did up? And I'm like,
why did I go up? I'm like, okay, that's one way to terribly approach somebody. Yeah. I've been,
“I, you need to come to sit down. There's you, Colin, do you want to come in? You can”
go have a seat, buddy. Come on up here. He's come at a promotion. I support. He's like, he knows every story in the book. What up, Colin? You guys are a good looking couple. Thank you. Yeah, you guys are going to make some really cute babies. I can't wait for you guys to have babies. I want to be godmother. Love you. Godmother, please. Very godmother. We got it. Do we got Colin on camera? Yeah, thank you. I love how happy you get when you see him. That's how you know it's
love because you get like the biggest smile. Just like you guys both do. Really sweet. Colin, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Oh, dude, I'm so glad you guys are both here. Like, what is it like being married now? I want to hear it from you. I feel like Beeland put it really well. It's, it's honestly a new feeling that we're still trying to adjust to, but also at the same time, it has felt like we've been married for a while. Just because our priority when we first started dating
was always every single day, just choose each other when we wake up in the morning. And I feel like
“that's the biggest thing with marriages every day. You have to choose that person. And so”
but yeah, it's pretty amazing. We've been riding to high. Oh, yeah. We definitely keep God at this center of it all. So it definitely helps. I love that. You've always seemed to be so sweet and so patient with her. Like, I watched the first few seasons of the first couple of seasons of the show. And I just loved how you have always handled her and always just been so like loving and just poured into her. And that's a huge quality for a man to do because a lot of men don't do that. And I just, you can,
you can see the love that you guys have for each other. So I love that. So talking about the fan interactions. Let's circle back. What was the one that she called you up here for? Yeah. So bad fan interactions, they are few. There's not a whole lot. But there is sometimes where just people will come up and they'll be like, oh my God, love you. And then I'll say a tick. And it's just, and that's a trigger for you, right? If somebody says a tick to you, it just
automatically triggers. There's, there's also been a lot of cases where people will be like, you want to know what my favorite tick is. And I'm like, oh, here we go. Oh, here we go. I'm like, please don't start like that because then I'll say it and I'll set them off and they'll be like,
“that one. Say it again. And I'm like, oh my God. No, that's not how it works. That's how it works.”
Yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's weird. Like, people like love her ticks. And like some of them are funny. But at the end of the day, like, it is a condition that she has. And so when you say that tick, you're just setting her condition off and making her condition worse. So I think that's not like,
They're not doing it to be hateful or mean.
you haven't really had that many ticks. And you're so calm and so articulate and well spoken.
“Like, I think that's amazing. And it has it always been like that or have you had to learn how to”
kind of like rain it in. It's definitely was hard at first. Like, I was living at home.
I didn't really know a lot about my triggers and my environment changes and how everything really effected my condition kind of until we lived together. And I got to experience like being like, sorry. This is his world. We just live in it. Okay. This guy. Until I really didn't experience being on my own and like being in certain scenarios and being out in public and learning certain techniques that I use. I use a lot of camouflaging. I use a lot of whispering techniques.
But most of the time, a lot of people wouldn't know is that my motor ticks are actually worse than my vocal ticks. And when you say motor ticks, what does that mean? A motor tick is basically like my
neck ticks. Okay. Or like my arm ticks or my leg ticks, anything that involves a muscle is definitely
worse than like my vocal ticks. But it also just depends on the day and during day to day, I just kind of go from there and choose it. But it also just depends on the environment. It depends on the person. You're a lovely person. And how comfortable I feel. But usually when I'm focused and I'm distracted, my ticks go away. And I love talking so it helps a lot. But like for example, we're planning to go to Broadway tonight and have a couple drinks. Yes. And alcohol seriously
“affects my ticks. It makes them really, really bad. So another question, Blake, why would you drink?”
And it's like, well, I'm 23. A couple drinks doesn't make my ticks bad. Six drinks makes my ticks bad. Right. And you also deserve to have fun too. I'm not saying that alcohol has to be involved in having fun. But some people want to let loose, you know, and I mean, you are 20. Would you say 23? Yeah. And sometimes it helps like when I when I have ticks, like there was one time where we we got drunk and we went out to a club and I ticked and I flipped some guy off and he knew
who I was. But he like gotten my face and put his finger in my face and said, no, fuck you, bitch, fuck you, bitch. And all of his friends like went to go fight the guy. Good for you. So it's just kind of like sometimes when I'm around drunk, people I rather be a little bit more on the tipsy side. So then if they come up and they approach me like things like that, then I'm not like completely sober and almost like offended by it.
Right. Because there's just been a lot of times with drunk people that in my condition that I just don't like it. Yeah, but people I hopefully people listen to this podcast and they can learn how it is from the other side and how you feel and how you guys feel, you know. So hopefully this will definitely open up people's eyes to that. So let's talk about the show. Like so you guys were dating before the show even started. How was that conversation? Well, when you guys decided to
let cameras in on your life because, you know, that's life changing. It was a really big decision. It definitely took a lot of trust just because threats needs to be shown correctly. It's so complex. It's so hard to understand. A lot of people don't get it. They don't understand.
“So making sure that it was described and shown correctly was showed so so important. And that's”
really hard to take that risk when you're going into having somebody else be in control of your life and your story. Yes. So it was definitely a big risk. It definitely took a lot of conversations, not only with him, but with my family. A lot of thinking, a lot of emotions, a lot
of tears, a lot of laughs. But also ultimately probably one of the best decisions we've ever
made for the turret community because we had to put ourselves aside and realize this is not about us. This is about turrets and the community and getting it out there into the world. Because it's so misunderstood everywhere you go. Anything that you see, there's not really a movie that describes it in a way that really shows turrets true colors or what and how it looks like in everybody like on the show. I have multiple people that also have turrets and how it manifests itself
differently. So it was definitely hard. Yeah. It was tough because we were only dating for four or five months when that opportunity arose. And I was in the moment where I was still adjusting
To her fame on social media.
still adjusting to the whole social media thing. And then it was like, hey, we have an opportunity
for a TV show and I was like a TV show. Yeah. I think just taking a step back and realizing that it's not about us. It's not about anyone else. It's about the condition and about turrets and the community and spreading awareness. So if you take a step back, it's a lot easier to make that decision. Yeah. How were you guys so trusting? Because especially you guys aren't
“executive producers, right? Yeah. So it's like you have to really like, did you guys lay it out to”
everybody like, hey, this is what we want. This is how we want it to look or did you just trust the process and just watch it the first season that came out and got to see what was made from that. We basically just got to watch it as it came out well. So you guys just took a chance and let
get how it turned out though. No, that's amazing. Has filming taught you guys anything new about
yourselves? I think it's definitely broadest closer when we started dating, we still had a great relationship, but it's definitely broadest a lot closer. I don't know how to different ways. Because you guys get to look back and like if there's even an argument or like how you handle this situation, you guys get to look back on it and reflect. Yeah, I think it's really taught us to communicate a lot better with each other throughout filming because it filming is very
hectic and it can get chaotic and it's busy schedules, especially when I'm in the military as well. So I feel like just communicating through that process and through production is what it's really taught us over the years. Okay. So where does it stand now? Where are you guys
“out with this transition of you coming out of the military? And what do you do in the military?”
I don't think I've ever learned what you've done. Yeah. So for the past five and a half years, I am a Paul Bear in the United States Air Force. Basically, I carry caskets during military generals out in Arlington National Cemetery. We'll carry the fallen member to their grave site.
We'll fold their flag for them. Render military honors. It's been an amazing job that I've gotten
to experience and do. I mean, to be the last, really the last base that the military sees, that the family sees of the military. It's been really nice to be a part of that. It's super special. Wow. You're a special person to be able to do that. I mean, to be surrounded by the death and the fallen soldiers. Again, thank you for your service. Thank you. Did you go into the military and pick that or did they pick that for you? Or how does one, I didn't even know that that was an
option to do? Yeah. It's not a lot of us, but there's 20 wanes.
“10 reenas, 10 reenas, 10 reenas. But I think. Yeah. So when when I first joined, I chose that job.”
Wow. That says a lot about you. Yeah. So I was super excited to do it. And I just didn't know that I would end up being there for five and a half years. But I've loved every bit of it. I have done over a thousand funerals during that time frame. So I love George Washington's day. Every part of that. And as far as the transitioning out and the move and all of that, all of that's still in the process, there's a lot of approvals that I have to get on my side of things. So
yeah, still a work and progress. Yeah. Is it going to unfold on this season? Do we have to keep watching? It will. Okay. I can't wait. I'll be texting bail. I knew it. What do you guys excited about now? Like now that you guys have gotten married, you guys are the fresh off of your honeymoon? Like what is exciting you guys? What are you guys looking forward to? I think really just for me, I don't know about for you. For me, it's really trying to like
take a step back and slow down. Our lives have been pretty hectic. Like with with the TV show with getting married, with the honeymoon. It's been pretty pretty wild. And then also trying to potentially move and potentially change careers. There's been a lot on the table and a lot that's been happening around us. So I think really what I'm most excited about is really just taking a step back and yeah. Yeah. When the cameras are
on, what is your guys' favorite thing to do? Date nights. But it's so simple. All we like to do
When we don't film is like put a TV show on and just cuddle and just like giv...
because we know that like with everything going on in our lives, we still try as hard as we can to pry or ties each other. And sometimes it's not the easiest for me to like go out to restaurants
“and do things like that. But I'd say it's one of the best times of the day. What about for you?”
Is that your favorite too? Yeah. I think really just trying to figure out any way to spend time together. Whether it is going to a restaurant or if it takes her too bad and she can't do a restaurant scene. And cooking at home, having a wine night, watching Netflix, whatever it may be. Just trying to take in their dogs on a walk. Yeah. I really just try to spend time with each other without any cameras or anything around. I love that for you guys. What do you guys most proud of right now?
As a couple, individual and as a couple. Hey man. I'm sorry. Come here, man. Yeah. It's an out today. Get up here. It's time to work, buddy. Come on. Okay. I'm very proud of how far I've came in the last three years. Since three years since we've been dating, I was living at home. My parents basement. My takes were so bad. I would have tick attacks. They're like an excessive amount of ticks in a period of time that you don't know how long it will last for. And you don't really know what the
ticks are. It's it's been a long ride figuring out my condition and myself and my confidence. And I get a lot of it from him. He helps me a lot with that. But I would say I've come a really,
really long, hard, far away. I never pictured myself getting married five years ago because I never
thought that my ticks would allow me to walk down the aisle. So it's been really nice to be along this journey with him. And just be proud of myself at the same time and realize I've come a far away and to be able to acknowledge that is so so beautiful for me. You're conquering things every day. And like even just from what I've saw like the first season to now, like seeing how
“much you've grown as a woman is because really a beautiful journey to watch. And I think we're all”
rooting for you guys. We're literally all, even you, Colin, like you have grown so much with her too. So I mean you guys are like America's couple right now. Oh, thank you. That's sweet. And what do you proud of Colin? Yeah, I think I'm really just proud of what that dick. How far I've seen her come? Like there's been a lot of struggles that she's had, whether it's communication, or the fear of germs, her condition to us as a whole. It's all like
grown so fast for the good. And the past three years that I mean, it's it's amazing to kind of
really sit back and watch and be along for the ride. But as that happens, I also have to learn new ways and figure out ways to help her as her condition adapts and changes throughout the year. So it's all a learning curve. I don't know everything there is to know and I definitely don't. Yeah, I feel like it's a testament of love though because you know you're pouring into her. She's
“pouring into you and you guys are just both blooming and flourishing and I mean that's that's what”
love is all about. And you guys are setting the example. So I'm proud of you guys for doing that too. Thank you. Thanks. What do you hope people feel after spending the hour with us today and listening to this podcast? What do you want them to take away from us? There's a great question. A lot of different things. I want them to take away that Tourette's can look a lot differently for a lot of other people. I want people to kind of understand a little bit more about
endometriosis and kind of that background and the similarity we have. I'm glad that he got to come on.
That's pretty cool. Just first time ever coming with to like with me to do this stuff. So it's so cool
to have him with me. I don't know. I just hope people take away the fact that Tourette's real and there is things that I say that are funny but there's also times where it's very difficult and it's very hard to deal with. And it's paralyzing sometimes. It gets very, very difficult to do a lot of different things and it's very hard to walk sometimes and it's very hard to see sometimes.
I just hope that people also understand not to call me Tourette's girl.
with love. When you told me people were doing that, I was just like, our world has no hope.
“Like what the fuck is wrong with you? I mean, I just want to shake people. What about you going?”
What are you hoping they take home after listening to this? I hope they learn that people with Tourette don't take 24/7. That is a huge misconception that a lot of people don't really know. Like she said there's a lot of times where she's just sitting there and he can sit there for 30 minutes an hour or two hours and just not take if she's comfortable and relaxed. I hope that they continue to watch the show and watch our relationship and just actually learn a lot about who we
“are as people individually and I think those are the biggest two takeaways. That's a great matter”
than me. Thank you. You guys are sweet. All right, so tell people where they can find you guys where they can watch your shows, social media, shoutouts, comment, do you have social media? I do, yeah.
Okay, okay, I'll have to finally get out of there. We'll shout out wherever you want people to
watch and follow you guys. Oh, you can watch me and him on TLC, the learning channel, learn something bitch, bailing out loud. I have no idea what my social media handles are but they are bailing
“duly somewhere. They are verified somewhere. I have no idea what they are. What about you, Colin?”
Yeah, you can find me on this Instagram and TikTok, Colin underscore duly. Imagine New Year's. Yeah, she's like I have no idea. I'm so happy you guys were able to
sit down with me today and I want you guys to come back anytime you want. My coach is always
open for you guys. Thank you. Oh, thank you. You're so sweet. You're the best. Thank you. You're the best. Thank you. You're the best. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dunblond. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.
