Giggling about crushes, conjugal visits, and kalteen bars

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I mean, today just got away from me. Hello, my grizzly Googlers. We don't need to get my phone. Oh, my god. Well, because I just, like, I have things.

I have-- oh, you do. Well, I have notes and stuff. I was in the car and the way to the Teen Vogue party. Sorry, I just love saying what it's about. So we're going to go, but this is like--

like, I blew my hair on the way to the Teen Vogue party. We messed up. Yeah, we messed up today.

First of all, this is what we get.

Wait, first of all, I'm wearing a YSL win break, or-- first of all, like everywhere you walk today. You got to compliment. Also, we're here's tucked in. Like, my Kate Ashley Olsen.

She's obsessed with herself. No, I'm obsessed with her. But you also don't feel like talking.

“You just want people to look at you today.”

Yeah, I feel like my voice is different. Like, it's smaller. It is crazy, not to defend you and your obsession with outfits. But the right outfit really makes you feel like-- It's not good.

That girl. No good way. Oh, OK, thank you. The right outfit makes you believe in yourself. Yeah, but the wrong outfit--

ruin-- cancel everything. I've broken up with boyfriends. I'm like, I just can't. I'm over simulated in my outfit sucks. And everybody knows that.

You walk in and I'm like, everyone's whispering by my outfit. That's actually happening to me. [LAUGHTER] That's in your head. That's my reality.

[LAUGHTER] Today, me and Hannah went shopping this morning. What can I say? Yeah. Not to get deep, but I feel like me and you

have never been more in love with each other.

Yeah. We're like obsessed with each other. We're so close, like, on a soul's sister level right now. And we've been making time for each other, which we've never done.

“The other day, you said to me, if I wanted”

to stop being your friend, I could have years ago. [LAUGHTER] No, I was just saying, we've chosen-- Oh, it's not good. Yeah.

We've chosen each other. Like, no one forced us to be friends. Each other. Yes. I mean, people forced us to possibly not be friends at some point.

Totally. And we fought against the-- We re-wrote about. We rectified. I don't know if that was the right word.

But yesterday, you're like, let's go to dinner. Yeah. Now, let me just say, you ordered wine. I was feeling crazy. Crazy.

And then I got scared. I didn't want to order wine. But I saw they had a coconut drink. One thing about me. I love a coconut drink.

But it came in a full coconut. And let me just tell you. It's very hard to have serious adult conversations where you're holding a full coconut. No, we were the video of the waiter coming over

at the most horrible point. And like, he sees me with a coconut. He thinks it's an easy-- He thinks it's fun. It's lovely.

It's like-- And she's like, and then when the lawsuit got involved-- [LAUGHTER] She was then she lost all her children. So anyway, I'm sending a season to set.

And also, this wasn't just like any coconut. It was like a pumpkin. Yeah, it was massive. At one point, everyone was talking at the dinner and I go, I'm holding the coconut.

I was speaking. And unless you have the coconut in your hands, you can't speak. That was the funniest joke of the whole night. Actually, I didn't even talk that much last night, which I'm proud of myself, because sometimes in a group dinner,

I don't know how much to talk. I feel like I talked the right amount. Like, I left the dinner being like-- I don't know, great performance. And I had some of the top hits of the night.

You did. You had the-- I got like two applause breaks. You had laugh breaks. So you guys monopolized the whole conversation.

So I was obsessed with you and does,

because you're very powerful, separate.

But when you're together, you're too powerful. And you were like, score, bringing it? Well, we were also sitting across from each other. So it was like, I could only look at him truly. And so I was just like--

Pages fully interrogating does. I'm drinking from my coconut. And it was getting kind of-- It was like-- What's the worst word in these?

Well, because does has so many great stories, but that made me laugh. You waited till I was married to him and for four years before you changed his-- you put his name in your phone.

Yeah. And that's so fucking real. Yeah, I'd just recently saved it, not that long ago. It's true, like-- And it went to like--

I had it saved, but it was like--

Des, Hannah's boyfriend, some are-- I have to write all of these.

“And then it became Des Bishop as of late.”

Because I was like, yeah, he's a person. And I should recognize that. Once the marriage is like four years, and it was a little bit of a COVID meeting. I don't understand.

I can't believe you're married for four years. Like, I feel like my parents will go out. And like, like, my mom is me. Like, so I know like when she goes-- my favorite time of year is like, my mom's--

my dad's high school reunion. It's like, oh, my god. Like, I can't-- Now, my mom's high school reunion, like, different-- my dad.

Like, when he has one, I'm like, we're picking out our outfit. We're like, it's just like a whole thing. But I feel like when my parents talk about, like, going out.

And like, they've always had good social lives.

Like, even when I was younger, they would always go out to dinner with someone Saturday nights. That's so fun. Then, like, for the longest, they didn't. I feel like that was like, when I was middle school high school.

And now that, like-- Like, they were stressed about it. Yeah, they got for, but they left. You'd get a tongue piercing. But now that they're like, in their 60s,

they feel like they socialize more than ever. And like, my parents are partying. Yeah, and like, my mom will call me and like, we talk like girls, you know, and she'll be like, and I feel like she was like, hitting on your dad.

So obviously, like, I had to go over and be like, hello. And I'm like, stand up for yourself, right? And she was like, and you know, Dad, he was placed up. I'm like, I hate what he does that. So like, I feel like, as, like, you will always have a crush.

It's the people that take the crush to the next level. I remember the first time I realized my dad realized

another man was hitting on my mom.

And I was like, so proud of my mom. I was like, good. Make dad jealous. Yeah.

“I'll never forget one time I went out with my parents.”

And we were in Saratoga, and we went to. There's like, after you go to the race track, there's like a couple bars that you go to that are like honestly dirty. Like, it's like you're in the dirt,

but everyone's dressed up and like drinking from plastic cups, but it's just like the vibe. And so there's one that's like a little more adult called Syros. And then there's another one that's like a little bit more ram bogious.

And this is your like home court. It's like my home court. Like if you go to the one, it's like full high school reunion. So like I avoid it sometimes 'cause I'm like who knows? I'm obsessed with small town stuff like this.

Yeah, I feel like I did kind of have like a small town, but it's like, you knew everyone there.

And I'm staying, and this was like right when I turned 21

and like would go out with my brother, there were times where we'd be like, let's bring mom and dad. And we would go to like a dinner or something. But anyways, so we're at this bar.

And this guy's walking up to me. And like my parents are behind me. And I'm like, oh my God, like this guy's walking up to me. He's gonna be like hitting on me in front of my parents. Like this is like so embarrassing.

But like he was hot. So I was like, well, they're gonna have to deal with that. Like look alive, dad. And this guy comes up to me and he's chatting me up. And we're like chatting and he goes,

and the woman behind you, who is that? And I'm like looking around and I like see my mom and I'm like, who's behind me? And he's like the woman like wearing black. I'm like my mom.

And he's like, well, sorry, I didn't know what was your mom. Like is she single? And I was like, my dad is like right here. And it's scarred me so I was like disgusted.

“I was so I was like, this is the worst thing ever.”

See, every guy's obsessed with my mom. But welcome to my life. Yeah, every guy I've ever dated after the meet my mom. They go, waste your mom's you except she like, has her shit together.

Yeah, mine's the opposite. Every guy I've ever dated beats my mom. And because she calls you on your bullshit. My mom literally one time said to a boyfriend, were you a fat child?

And now, like, you're thinking, know how the conversation's going to go after that. Like, because it's just so awkward. But Kim is a silent killer. Like, that'll be the only thing she says the whole night.

No, I know for a fact that man thought about it three weeks later. I was like, what'd she mean by that guy? And I was like, she meant what she asked. And he was like, I actually was. And she goes, yeah, you act like that.

And I was like, oh my god. Because honestly, he was like so crazy about things I ate. And she didn't like that. No, my mom, oh, I had one of those guys. Yeah.

And so she called him out without calling him out. Like, don't project your addiction at the time. My daughter, she can eat whatever she wants. Oh my god, my mom and I had the same thing. And I said, he wants to help me be a fitness model.

And she said, you're eating pasta. Yeah. Guys would like go to my mom's house and be like, it's so clean. And I'm like, yeah, my mom's really clean.

And then she, like, you know, she just is. He totally domesticated while also being successful, while also being beautiful. And they were like, so you're missing a comment to do you think this will come with age or also by the way, when we go off about our moms and parents on this podcast, I always get a call.

I got a call actually yesterday. I've been like, hey, some of the stories you told not true. [LAUGHTER] In ballet. It was possible.

I didn't dress you before you went to school.

You know, when you went to ballet, I thought, I don't know if you

wouldn't know or wouldn't do that.

I didn't put you in jeans to bed. She goes, that was when you were an infant.

“And I was like, OK, why did I think I was 17 when you did that?”

And she was like, yeah, so I thought it was before a tennis match in college. Also, probably my dad dropped her off to a date to break up with the guy. But then like, it's okay. How did they get another one? How did they get another one?

I don't know. So anyway, I got to see some of this as for my mom again. My mom is like, I'm loving so hard listening to you, like, almost get her right? Like, it's so close, like, your heart is there. Yeah.

No, I ever know. I'm then, too, like, parents are crazy. Like, she's like, I got a Facebook message from, like, my middle school boyfriend. And I'm like, I'll kill him. No, that's so insane.

Yeah. It's so insane to think, like, well, because here's the other thing. At some point, your spouse passes away. I'm very aware.

And I'm like, who's checking in when I first get single?

And I'm like, 75, and like, still look good. Well, one of the most fun things about getting married is like, first of all, you're unavailable to everyone. So you feel like around men, you're just so calm. Yeah.

Even if they don't like you, they start liking you because they know you're unavailable. Well, you take away the whole, like, all the time I used to stress about my crushes, which was a lot. I'm not pretending I was fully boy crazy.

Yeah. Now, I spend it stressing out about other things, which has as a result of my career. No, that is so beautiful. Well, like, when you're, when I was single, I deal with so much bullshit with the dating, which we all do.

And now, my bullshit is another thing. I'm saying, like, I'm happier. It's just relationships caused me no drama anymore. That's nice. It's like, it's just very calm.

And I hate to say it. I used to call my mom for everything. And now I have does. Lenore, if you're listening to this, she doesn't have her own life. But Lenore, as a sewing club, she's in the historical society.

She's actually, she's very busy with Lenore.

“What is the historical society like, what is she doing?”

She's giving tours. Oh, my God. There's a house on shelter, I Len, shut up historical society. And she loves history. And she's like, I don't know what those were.

[LAUGHTER] So you're going to have to pull her an ad. No, but I'm next to this old house from, like, I don't even want to say a date. Yeah. Because you get it wrong.

Like, I don't know, 1700s. And they preserved outfits that they found. Wow. Wow. And they dress up people and they're, you would have loved.

I love stuff like that. I'll feel like that. But then I was like, on Halloween, that shit's haunted, that's scary. No, I love like a mansion tour of, like, I was just going to say, J.G. Wentworth.

Why did that pop and J.G? Wentworth? It's something I know. Just like, the Vanderbilt's or something like, my mom used to make us do that so much when we were little.

And I go to historical things. Yeah, like, go to different tours of things. I was so annoying on tours, because you know when they were like, does anyone have any questions? I was like, it's my time to shot, which is so crazy that we're best friends because

I'm just like, I rather puked. Oh, I'm such a Leo son, that like, when it wasn't about me, I was like, well, someone needs to hear from me, even like when we're on zooms. And it's not like we're like, we're insane on zooms. Well, it's like, I don't feel bad not asking a question because it's not like, I'm

like interviewing for a job or something. Yeah. It's like, people are explaining stuff.

“And then like, they're always like, do you have any questions after?”

And half the time, I wasn't even listening because I'm like, someone is going to call me after to talk about this anyway and give me the spark notes. But like, I would die. Sometimes I have a question, but like, I feel like we've helped each other. Like you have a calmness to you like, I'll start a call and I'm like, yeah, because I'm

not listening. And you're just, you're spaced out. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't see it.

So then, then I like to ask questions, but I like to wait for you to ask the one question,

or just normally like, who are you people who are like, well, I always feel like you're

going to answer. You're going to ask the question that I would have. So I'm like, I don't actually have to do it because she's going to do it. And that's why we work well together. Wait, I had a giggler DM me because we were talking about my, or what our big three

were the other day. And I just found it interesting because a lot of girls are like, wait, I have your exact yours. Yeah. What did they say? Um, her name's Taylor underscore astrology.

She said giggler here, random astrology thought after you mentioned not identifying with the queries rising on the pod. Sometimes the rising sign is more how other people experience us than how we feel inside. I actually see Aquarius in you in a really cool way. You're always ahead of trends, very innovative, deafening pajamas, that double as an outfit

is very Aquarius, you're quick with observational humor and you're great at stepping back and reading group dynamics. Aquarius has the ability to detach and see things from a bird's eye view, which can

Be as helpful balance for Scorpioson and Pisces moon, like a mental zoom out ...

When the water gets intense, also Aquarius tends to enjoy others who beat to their own drum, aka, might be a little quirky. And I just thought that was sweet. Where should I find me? Yeah.

I'm obsessed with that because I just want to take talk. You do beat to your own drum. Well, I just got this is what comes in my algorithm. Me, because I'm too weird for the popular girls and too popular for the weird girls. And I got that's weird.

So I go into the comments and everyone goes, "Someone goes Scorpio Rising Core." And then someone goes Leo Sun Scorpio Rising. And that's me. And I was like, "Oh, it's what I really need." So I should logically, things are going well.

I think on it and it's all that is. I don't go far. I hear so much about astrology. I don't go far. I love it.

Me too.

“It's just because it's brand-end as women and that's why people are like, "Girl,”

did you see Doja Cat?" Did you see it or you're just laughing at the segue? Well, I love that Doja Cat. You won't hear from her for months and then she'll come out with the craziest quote.

And then get herself into a drama that she never had to be involved in.

She was at peace. But she's like, "I don't know what's her chart is." I would love to know what her chart is. What did she do? She basically did like a full, when she said the whole thing about Timothy Schallman was

like about the ballet and the... was it? A opera. I guess Kylie Jenner had commented her in-star, her TikTok, wherever she had posted it. And Kylie said calm down, "L-O-L." And so then I don't know if this is why Doja Cat didn't have an analogy, but then like

seemingly a couple hours later, she did like an apology and the apology was, "I have to admit I've never been to the ballet and I've never been to the opera." And we actually screen-chatted it because I thought it was so interesting what she actually said and she basically said that she did it for clicks.

“And then I think she felt guilty because she realized in a second ago it could have been”

her saying something that everyone was jumping on and she felt bad. So I think she was trying to like fix her karma.

I've never been to the ballet, I've never seen an opera and took it upon myself yesterday

to kind of give it to the man because there is a culture based around outrage. What I was doing yesterday was virtue signaling because I wanted to connect and I knew that Timothy's goof up was something that I could leverage in order for people to connect with me. It's a modern way to garner clicks, likes, approval and kinds of things like that.

I'm actually obsessed with her. She kind of did not intentionally but unintentionally did a social experiment and just proved that I feel like because we're from reality TV, we can see it so clearly that one person can mess up and it could be like maybe not that bad. And then people just feel part of a group when they pile on top of that person.

Also when someone does something wrong, your algorithm will be full of people that agree with you. I agree with you and also you get the most clicks when you're speaking on an issue that's like hating on someone. So I don't understand how anyone's taking anyone seriously, that's like I asked chat

GPT all my questions. It's like, okay, but it's programs who like eventually start agreeing with you. It's very strange. It's very strange. I'm like, I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone and what do you talk for everyone

online who's like their job is like calling people out and critiquing who's job is that. Well, like some, like some people, so like medium, just like, just like, that's because they want their own fame. Yeah. We don't actually want to be honest.

I didn't like, I had to reread virtue signal. I mean, it was like what does that mean?

“I think she's saying like she was pretending that she like really cared about the art of”

it. But then she knows deep down. She feels, she doesn't feel a type of way about it. She just wanted attention and then I think she felt guilty. Some people are like, wait, what other comments are like, she's playing 4D chess.

Yeah. People should be as self-aware as her. Just interesting. Yeah.

It's funny because if you think of, whenever anyone posts something was always a reason.

They want to make someone jealous. They want to make someone laugh. They want views. And I know as a content creator, sometimes I'm like, okay, what if people want to see? If I wanted views, whatever drama is going on, I could just give my take on it.

Right? That's how I actually would get views. I don't want to be a part of that anger economy. I post to look at myself. I know.

I watch it. I look at yourself. I'm posting today because I want to see this outfit on a big screen. Next time you post something online, figure out why you're doing it and make sure that it's good karma behind it because I ship bites you in there as well.

Now I'm going to reveal the kangaroo rebellion of Mark Ove Klinken.

I'm on the bookbite and everywhere I'm in the bus and I'm going to hear about...

Indie starts to run.

In my mobile house, the controller is now the waterbite.

Liquidity is the fucking beat. Or? Find the right way to work. Are you aware of the David Protein drama? No.

Oh my god, do you love this? Okay, I'm going to butcher this. Now I'm not big in the protein community. I get so many memes that are like the world's falling part but at least we have protein popcorn.

Yeah, it just like everything has protein and I'm like how much was I whack it. It's like, oh my god, you guys are really serious. It's a trend.

“I think because a lot of people are on GLP ones and when you're not eating a lot, you're”

not getting enough protein. Got it. I just saw a thing that said that they were like doing studies and like Ozempek is like making your bones brittle. Yeah.

Well, I think if you overdue anything, it's hard. But I haven't done the science on it all. However, thank God. But every one of you, I'll do the science eventually and I'll let you know my report as women in STEM.

So I'm very into protein bars as a bar. Yeah. It's my thing. Oh my god. I've been able as a ton of players.

So you've been hiding this. Oops. I've got meat on my back right now.

Like I always have protein bars just in case I got hungry.

Are you doing protein powders at home? No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. It's strictly just a bar. I like those barbell proteins.

“It's always normally like a peanut butter, but we're going to totally, um, what are”

the bars from Calteen bars and we totally Calteen barred me on tour. So um, there's this thing called perfect bars and they're perfect. They're perfect. And they just taste like you're eating peanut butter. They're like 400 calories.

It's like a meal replacement. And I told you once like in the airport, you're like, hey, those are really good. You can get rid of that. Because sometimes in the morning, I don't want to full breakfast. So I have one of these.

And I'm like, there's no, you already see the minutes go a little bar. This is amazing.

I'm going to eat these all day long.

And I'm eating them. And he's like, how many of you had? And I'm like, I don't know. And she's like, those are 400 calories. They're real.

I'm like, are you trying to move me up a way? Class are you kidding? I go on this tour. We got to be sturdy. You got to pick up your luggage.

I'm literally dissociating from the world on this tour. Well, you're going to die. I'm going to get this wrong. But there's this thing called David protein bars. Okay.

You might have seen them around. They're the guys who did Rx bars. Rx bars were the ones that are like, oh, yeah. I don't realize that I know so much about protein bars. And you literally.

What is that? Documentary. Like, I don't see the bars. I heard of data. You listen to bars.

It's like, no BS on them. No. Oh, my God. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Like dates. Like fuck you.

And a nickel. And a, at least we tell you what's in it.

“So I think they sold that for a lot of money.”

Okay. And then something kind of sketchy that we're not done in the protein space. Something sketchy happened where they somehow claimed that a certain way they make their protein, they like own it and that other protein bars can't do it to the base. They were trying to take over the protein space by saying like weave clothing lines have

that too. But we've made this whipped fabric that no one can use. Yeah. No one can use it. So that was weird.

But this was being dealt with. But then it comes out that they've been saying that it's like only 150 calories. And a report comes out saying that their bars are actually 250 calories and people are losing their fucking mind. And who's doing these like independent studies?

Someone was just like, I've got a hunch. I have no idea what my sources are. But all I know is someone was like, hey, we tested it. And the calories aren't. Also, how does anyone test calories?

Like how do people are freaking out? They're like, I mean, how to bar stuff. But that seems illegal. Well, but then David just came back. I don't think his name's David.

I don't know. I don't know. I see the actual name. Mr. David has come back. And they're like actually you tested it wrong.

But it's gotten all blurry and people are a gasp. People are, oh my god, I would be living. And the protein community is like the macros didn't make sense. This is weird. So at the end of the day, one thing my mom, who's a dietitian, told me, is just eat real

food. Yeah. One in doubt, just eat real food. If you're like, I have this fiber bar, I have this protein bar. Eat a fruit, eat a vegetable, and let's move on.

Yeah. So I want to watch out for that. Wow. I didn't expect I was, I didn't expect I was like a movie in the middle of the day. Yeah, to get like the workout protein lower.

Yeah. Speaking of food, did you see the McDonald's CEO like taking a bite of like advertising

The like new burger and everyone's like he couldn't bite it?

When I saw it, I couldn't get, there's so much content I can't get myself to actually watch.

But here's what I've found interesting about it.

And not even that like, not even that like he didn't do it like a normal bite. He like bit it as if he didn't want to eat it. Well, I don't know how to act as humans. Well, here's my thing. Why do we give a fuck about the McDonald's CEO like biting the burger?

I don't care what's in it. I truly don't. I'm gonna buy it. Yeah. I don't need, I actually, if there's one thing on the planet, I don't need you to sell

me. It's McDonald's. It's all. I'm going to get it. If there's one person who's not the McDonald's demo, it's the billionaire CEO.

I mean, it's just like, I don't even know. I don't know that. But I also, do you remember there was a Kim Kay add where she got in trouble where they were like she next she baited down on that? Like it was some vegan burger.

She was promoting. Yes. And they were coming right out of that. It was like beyond burgers.

“Yeah, but also when you shoot these commercials, you have to do it like 800 times so”

she probably will say I'm not I can't keep eating this. I don't think if I've ever had to eat something like on a shoot. My biggest pet peeve is when there's a commercial where someone's like drinking water and you could tell there's nothing in the water bottle and they're fake swallowing. Yeah.

This is me off. Oh my God. Yeah. Or like sometimes when I'm watching TV shows, I'm like, what did they happen to be? Do they happen to be?

They happen to be? They happen to be? Yeah. Like what's in place of certain things? Champagne is up, which is the little sparkling water.

Water, I think. I believe. I think you are right. Movie magic. I will.

Yeah. Like set design and not set design, but yeah, I guess set design. I am so fascinated by stuff like that. Like I love watching people come in and like do well, there's food artists. Yeah.

Food art. Food artistry. I think it's crazy. I love a food artist. Like how do we get here?

One time I was on a shoot, I forgot what it was for, but it was something was sitting in ice cubes, but the ice cubes were fake, but they didn't look fake and I was fascinated. I was like, oh my God. And I went up to the food director and I touched it and she looked at me and she was like, don't ever touch that.

I'm so sorry, I'm just coming over to give a compliment, now I have to go. No, that's like matters the most in a food shoot, like the models the last thing. They were like to do not ever look at her and touch her stuff. We had empenadas yesterday. Now we did.

We had, we had a flight, a flight of empenadas. I don't think we've ever shared a flight of alcohol together, but we have shared a flight of empenadas and that's like way more important to me. Also our drinking days, we don't remember. I used to drink.

Yeah, you did.

“That's why I was so, I couldn't believe you got a mocktail last night because I was like,”

let me set the scene, I'm going to get a cocktail and I drink that whole glass of wine. Do you know why I, oh, you know, I did it because we had a big day today. Oh, because we had to go shopping. So this is where we fucked up. We had so much fun yesterday together and then we said let's keep it going.

We're like, let's keep it going. We had a sleepover. It's like, does wasn't there. I would've been like, we were about done. Last night. But I, I was like, we're going to go shopping, it's going to be so much fun.

You got there at noon. I got there at noon. I think I started to rain. I remember the kept going. No, we would have kept going.

But then I got home and I was like, I'm done for the day. I'm excited.

No, why is it that, like, I could do a million things from like six a.m. to six p.m.

like, be fine. And then it's like when you have a leisure day, you're like, I'm exhausted. And when I have to do dinner for anything else, I love answering emails and editing videos is my, like, relaxing date. Yeah.

It's the best. If I'm on my shoulder, but if I'm on my computer and kiddies on the ground, like,

“licking herself, I'm like, is this true happiness?”

So what was saying, how like kids nowadays don't understand what it was like to, like, be on your laptop in the bed, like, millennials, we still do it. Well, you have your little iPads, sometimes. But like, our kids are using laptops. I don't like to watch springing it in the bed.

Like, when we're making a big purchase, we're bringing out the laptop. Yeah. I've switched to making, like, flight purchases on my phone. True, yeah, with, well, the app is sometimes better. Yeah, I'm like, I have to make this way.

But do you ever, like, you're like, I'm on my phone too much. I just need to watch TV. Yeah. You look all the way to get off this time. And just watch and just watch, well, because my mom will text me all the time about

my attention span. Yeah. She's like, TikTok's rotting your brain. You're not going to have an attention span. I just need to watch a movie.

I'm like, mom, that's for Gen Z, not me. I could lay in bed for eight hours. What are we talking about? You've been around. But like, I've literally met, I'm like, get off my phone to meditate while watching, like,

a nice movie. Wait, it's a TV. Hmm. You rarely watch love is blind, right? Have you ever?

Have you ever got to the first season?

I was like, got it.

Got it. Good. Yeah.

I watched a lot of seasons, not every season, because sometimes the casting is, like,

so bizarre. But this year was, uh, or this place that they did it, they did it in Ohio. I'll be Ohio has a lot of famous people that come out of there, which I just find interesting. Anyway, I digress. So they're doing their reunion was last night.

And I don't know what it is, but Netflix just really has not figured out the reunion. I don't.

“Honestly, I don't think anyone has figured out the reunion but bravo.”

Like Andy truly is as someone who's been at multiple reunions and then watched multiple reunions, he truly is the best, uh, out of everyone. Yeah. Netflix no longer did it. Is doing it live, which I think of because that was like, I'm like, guys, no one can

get a word in. Last year, they had like some man come and play basketball in the middle of it. And I was like, so bizarre. This year, now I'm going to be honest, I skipped through some parts because I was like, don't care about you, don't care about you, like, don't care about this, like, okay.

How do you really feel? She's like, well, they had so many random interludes. So I was like, I don't care, like, that's so happy for the people that used to be on. And they're like, still married and thriving, but like, I don't care. I want to get to the couples now.

This is a very interesting show because it's hosted by Vanessa and Nicholas Chey, who are a married couple, who should not be hosting reunions, like, I love them as the hosts. I love when they come here. Are they getting along with each other? Yes, but, okay, here's why.

Because they've got people love commenting on their relationship. Yeah, sometimes they're quirky. And look, and you know, I love a quirky person. So like, I've been into it for so many years. When we were raised on him and Jessica Simpson, so we're like, we know the lower here.

And I love Vanessa. Like, I've watched, watched her on MTV, like, emotional. Here's why I think it's weird when they do host the reunion is because he's a straight man. Yeah.

And she's a married, straight woman. So they need a gay man, so you're saying, no, they need a woman.

“Well, here's the thing, they need a gay man because a gay man can get away with way more”

than a woman ever could. Like, I could make a TikTok and verbatim say something about like someone's outfit. And girls would be in my, in my message as being like, that's the meanest thing. And it totally, it could have totally bad. But if a gay man did it, it's like maybe a little funnier.

He didn't really mean it. Like, he can just get away with people saying as someone who's watching Ripple's Drag Race every day, these men are so mean to each other. But they're so good at, like, making up and it being funny, if it was girls fighting, people would have murdered people would be sad, but instead, it's like funny.

So you're so right. The gay man is the perfect way, like Andy's able to say the, like, she's so shady. And people would be like, clocked at your smart, where if it was a straight woman, they'd be like, what's her problem with her? So you're jealous of her.

So you're jealous. No, that's like that. So I didn't even write that's in with it being Nicholachia being a straight man. Sometimes he wants to go hard at the other straight men, which we want someone to go hard at them.

But it almost feels like a little too much when it's like straight man on straight man. Oh, yeah, I don't want to see a war. I don't want a battle for you.

“I'm like, did we, yeah, did they walk through like a security check before they got here?”

Like, we can never be too sure.

Hannah, the other day I was in the park and I walked past three, 14 year old, boys, and in my head, I was like, they have a bomb. You got a knock at it. I'm not kidding. They walked over to the trash can, put something in it.

I literally go, we got to go. And they goes, I'm recycling, man. I can't trust your kind. They both had me on the blitter and threw it away that you dropped. All three of them had blonde curly hair, something was up.

Well, they're getting perms nowadays. They're getting perms. The boys are, I'm not getting into, I don't upset me. I'm not getting into the middle. And I'm not getting into that.

I'm not getting into that. I'm not getting into that. I'm not getting into it. How'd take about men? Hmm.

This is a really hot take. You love them? You don't like a man's in jail. Totally. I watched a lot like Syracone documentaries to that.

There's men in jail. They do all sorts of things. We see other day, Grace texted us and was like, what are you guys watching? And I literally said back like, rainbows, I'm the shore of like Canada or something. I don't even know.

And you were like, death. It's like death. In the room. It was all over. It was like Jesus.

To fall asleep. To stay. So all these women will be like writing letters to men in jail.

And I always thought, like, okay, these girls are crazy.

That's how I realized. Maybe they're geniuses. Think about it. If your man's in jail, he's up to nothing.

Yeah.

He's not showing up at your apartment.

He also is dealing with, he's learned that there's repercussions for your actions. He is forced to go to therapy. He has some form of a job. He's got structure. He's up early.

He's writing you novels. Yep. And like, he doesn't bother you. Like, Loki, I'm like, like, you could go into whatever. He's not like tracking your phone.

He's not tracking your phone. He doesn't have a phone. He doesn't have a phone. Some of them do. Oh, because they stick in their butts.

I can't. I'm not exact. I don't think you can just get them. You're not going to fight during that one minute phone call. No, you're not.

You're, like, you don't even know them well enough. You're still in the, like, flirty phase. Like, you can't even get past the, like, cute phase because you only have a minute with him. I am such a girl's girl.

And like, so for the girls, like, I really, like, I believe them first and, like, I root for them. Not all of them because some of them are psychotic and crazy. Are you going for my girls who are calling? If you're writing to a person in jail to have a relationship with your insane.

Look, some people. No, you're, let them, let them know you have her. No, that's crazy. Let them have a crush. Like, okay, actually, this reminds me of it because I feel like I heard this

and I never forgot it and it stuck in my brain.

Remember, Lacey Peterson, who got murdered by her husband. Yes. When he went into jail, the amount of women that wrote to him was, like, insane. No, I know you randomly, not like you saw a guy on TV who killed his wife, who, like, looks like a bad boy.

How am I randomly happening upon? It makes me, it's all about it. But kids say, like, are you kidding? Look, it was a bit. It was a bit.

I thought it was cute that you made dark. You know what I do? Like, though, when you see a mug shot and you're like, "Okay, New York Fashion Week, actually, we could change your whole." We could change your whole situation.

There have been men and women that have gone viral. Yeah, remember that guy? You used to get discovered in malls now. They could discover it with a viral headshot.

“Do you remember the viral felon who married the Aeros to top?”

You had gorgeous blue eyes, I remember. What was that, what was that store? Why do I want to say top shot? I was going to say top shelf. You can find out that he, like, knows how to write.

Like, I've dated a couple guys where, like,

I'm finally, like, hanging out with him.

And I realize that he doesn't know what punctuation is. I also think when you're writing to a guy in jail. When you, when you over sex, like, you say all these things. And then something, he's like, "Hey, I'm out, you want to hang out." And you're like, "No, no, this is me having fun.

I was just flirting." What do you think that's something like a conjugal visit? I think that's hot. Because it's like, "You can't touch me." No, that means you can.

You could touch. What does conjugal mean? I think they're having sex. They're touching. Is that the thing that came back here though?

It's conjugal. Like, for an occasion. You can't have sex with them. Yeah, you can, and some jails. You have to be married.

How do you know? You have to be married. That seems fucked up. Does that set? Yeah.

“You should be able to have sex when you want to have sex.”

But it's like, "Where do you go?" They put you in a room. I haven't seen you ever watched a fashion. I'm like, "Josey Shore." I mean, you've ever watched a 50-sense music video.

21 questions. I'm pretty sure it's like, depicting a conjugal visit. Yeah, I'm actually a hundred percent. I'm actually a hundred percent. Do you?

Sends conjugal visit in his music video's accurate. Okay, well, he won in a trailer for it. So that's where I do my research. I mean, didn't it be other day? I feel like I said to you, like, yeah, I really just like that person,

but like in a 50-sense way. Yeah. And I'm proud of that. And what do you mean by that? Like, you want to make a documentary about them?

Yeah, like, I can make a documentary. And it would just like, and I'd be like, "Gatcha." I feel like that's everyone. Wait. I don't want to break up Kanye West on this podcast.

But I saw a quote from him the other day. Yeah. And somebody asked him if he wishes Kim the best. And he said, "No." Because that would mean she'd end up with me.

Who's still flirting? I mean, he's just an insane human. But that line absolutely ate. You know?

“It's like, how could I wish you the best when I'm not bailing?”

This is your problem. You love a one-liner. I don't know. Sometimes you'll separate the artists from the art. It's like my one-liner.

Gotcha. That's too much. Indeed, it starts out. In my office, you'll have a woman who's excited about her career. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Then you'll have the right to work with them. And you'll see the 50-year-old, at www.indiet.com/goodhabem. It's a girl in the AGB. Why are you going to be in the new book?

Absolutely, I'm just going to reveal it to you. I'm going to reveal it to you. You have to tell me more about it. Or you'll be able to do it with me. You're going to reveal it to me.

Now you're going to reveal it. Now you're going to reveal it to me. You're going to reveal it to me. Now you're going to reveal it to me. Now you're going to reveal it to me.