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Theodopolis. So the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest. You're truly the most proud of that one. It was pretty great. It was pretty great in the moment.

But we were really enjoying his chint-strap-beards. Yes. They also came up in the Henderson-loiling story where the Quaker sex cult story that I recently took. They've just been around us recently.

You've been sprinkling some neck beard into these stories here and there. And the listeners have responded. Right. Did we get chint-strap-hate mail? Yes.

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a bit, which is very true. It does. Dressed up. But just in the bottom half of the beer. Erin Jalisa on Instagram says the chint-strap beard was as bad as I imagined.

Thank you.

“And the hellsby says, how is this episode not called Beards abound?”

Great question. Baseball Girl 247 says, "I needed to see that chint-strap beard to really get that story." Yeah. It's terrifying. It's like, "That works or a mallet, worse."

It's like an old-timey mallet, party in the front. I think this is worse though, because this makes no goddamn sense. The chint is bare. Yeah. But they can eat soup.

And I bet there was a lot of soup going around them. And stews. And stews. Which is so hard to do and have a beard. I've heard my husband says.

I just love that people got into that as well. So then it gave me this idea when you gave me the assignment of watching the drama. Right. Oh, no. Are you going to make me grow a neck beard?

Yes. And you have to do it in one week.

neck birds in it. You wouldn't believe it. Okay.

And then we're going to talk about that movie.

Which one is that? - Carson Ford, Kelly McGillis, Luke is Haas. Harrison Ford goes undercover in an omnisch settlement. - I don't know. - I don't know. - What are they call themselves?

- What years at home? - It's from like 89. - Okay, so Luke is Haas's little boy. - He's the best child actor. - I had the biggest crush on him.

- He is. - So good. - Legend? - Yeah. - He's so good in this movie. Like, it's so real. - Okay. - I think you're going to really--

“- Should I check Smith and see if I've already seen it?”

And just totally forgot. (laughs) - But I feel like you, if I said-- - Yeah, Harrison Ford goes undercover with the omnisch. You would have gone, oh yeah, I've seen that. - I haven't seen it.

- Okay. - Also, and that's very much tied to. So witness as your assignment,

just in honor of the chin-strap beard.

- Got it. - But then also after that, me might do a Harrison Ford assignment of I must have you watched the fugitive. - Right.

My assignment for you is you just wanted to fake beard and try and eat some stew with it on. - No. (laughs) - I'm like, wait, that's not a--

Here's the thing. All you have to do is watch a movie. Okay, witness, and I wrote 1989. Why don't I, I don't need that. - Was I right?

- No, it's 85. - I'm 85, I'm changing it. So I don't watch the wrong one. - Yeah. - I don't watch the one from 80.

- 89 witness is so dirty. - Dude, that is like, I'm made for Santa Max.

“- But I had a lot of fun watching the drama”

and then being like, I'm going to make up an opinion about this and we're gonna discuss it on the fancola. - I'll do it. - Hell yeah. - Okay, great, it's gonna happen.

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- Yay, yay, you're to off. - I am off of you. - You're on a three-day weekend right now. - Yeah, okay. - But it's gonna do a solo.

- It's my solo story. I saw a TikTok. I need a t-shirt that said I saw TikTok. - You do. - Because it's all I say and kind of all I do.

But it's great because as we all know,

we're getting into an era where experts are finally speaking

and getting up on camera and getting on mic and being like, hey, you don't have to be,

“I don't know, Sydney Sweeney to get here”

and perform and speak publicly. It's not that big of a deal. - I'm gonna talk about peptides. - Oh, I will. 'Cause I'm the expert at peptides.

- Okay. - The copper peptides are what you want. - You sure. - Just found out about that. - But it's basically like,

there's more and more people come forward to talk about stuff. So I find that on TikTok, I'm finding so many more people who are the source of the information, the researchers themselves, the authors themselves, the investigative journalists.

- Exactly, all those people that are now the ones telling the story, which I love. - Yeah. - So I don't know if this person is any of those things, but they're the reason that I learned about this story.

I'm about to tell you and they inspired me to tell the story as well. - Love it. - So it's a TikTok from a woman named Mary Kate Tesky. - Okay.

- So that's her name on TikTok. If you wanna go follow her,

this is how I first found out about this story.

- Okay. - So if you are listening to this, the day this episode comes out, which is June 25th, 2026. Hi, your first day of listener.

I want you to know today's 150th anniversary of one of the most infamous battles in American history, the Battle of Little Big Horn, also known as Custer's Last Stand. - Okay.

- On this day in 1876, Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer and his men were wiped out by Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho warriors who were under the command of legendary native leaders like Crazy Horse and Sitting Bowl.

Of course, the history lesson we got about this battle presents Custer as some kind of noble martyr to our expanding nation, and completely ignores the Native American experience and perspective and version of the story.

- Yeah. - But that changed around 2005 when Montana's tribal colleges began to spearhead a push to preserve the state's native histories and storytelling.

And so they gather a group of Northern Cheyenne storytellers in Billings, Montana, so that they can share their oral history of the Battle of Little Big Horn, which the Cheyenne and other Plains tribes

actually called the Battle of the Gracie Grass. So for many people outside the Cheyenne community,

they will be hearing for the first time that day

the truth about what happened. And what those storytellers and Billings describe ends up capturing headlines across the country because for the first time, we hear about the Cheyenne warrior responsible

for Custer's death. So today in honor of the 150th anniversary, I'm gonna tell you the story of that warrior, her name is Buffalo Calf Road Woman. - Oh, why?

- That's right. Our sources for today's story are articles

and the work of writers, Rosemary and Joseph Aganito. And the rest of the sources are in our show notes. Okay, so everything in this is gonna be very condensed and very like our version of things. - Yeah.

- This is the Karen Georgia Wikipedia version of things. - Yeah. - Called my favorite murder. - No offense, Mary McLashon, my brilliant researcher, but to tell stories like this is like,

I will assume people know as liberal as I do about American history, about Native American history,

“about all these things that are really important”

that I just feel fully uneducated about. - Right. - So by the 1800s in America,

the Cheyenne are a powerful nation spread across the Great Plains

with a population in the thousands. They are a vibrant horse-centric culture with a highly organized military system. And while Cheyenne warrior culture is largely associated with men, gender norms are not cut and dried with this tribe.

Author's Rosemary and Joseph Aganito, right about the Cheyenne, quote, "We have numerous accounts of women taking up weapons and risking their lives when attacked, women were adept at using a variety of weapons, including the gun."

And quote, "So by the 1840s, what's going on in the United States is the weird, aggressively expanding under the banner of manifest destiny, which is basically the belief that white Americans are ordained by God to spread across the North American continent

and to take whatever they want, essentially."

“So while the Cheyenne have long had to defend themselves”

against rival tribes, the defenses now needed

to fight the encroachment of white settlers and the army. So as tensions ramp up, some Cheyenne leaders seek peace with the United States. At this point, the Cheyenne nation is broadly divided into northern and southern Cheyenne.

So Buffalo, CAF, Rhode Woman is born into the northern Cheyenne tribe in what is now Montana. Her birth year is believed to be 1844. But unfortunately, we have almost no personal details about Buffalo, CAF, Rhode Woman or her life

because Cheyenne oral history is heavily disrupted by forced assimilation on two reservations and into places like Native American boarding schools, which that story also needs to be told. And I have been trying to work on a story

about that Marin and I have for literally years to get it told correctly, concisely. It's so expansive, it's so horrific. And it's colonization.

“It's basically how do you tell the story of colonization”

in this country? So what we do know about the life of Buffalo, CAF, Rhode Woman is that her childhood is shaped by an ever-escalating tension with these white pioneers in the U.S. military. In 1851, when she's about seven years old,

the Treaty of Fort Laramy is signed in Wyoming. So it formally recognizes a large stretch of the Great Plains as belonging to seven different tribes that include the Cheyenne. But just a few years after that signing in 1858,

gold is discovered in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. And so white miners flood the area in what's now remembered as the Pikes Peak Gold Rush. So even though this is supposed to be protected land, the United States does nothing to stop them.

Then in 1861, the betrayal multiplies when the U.S. signs a new treaty that shrinks Cheyenne territory down to a 13th, roughly a 13th of its previous size. So that it can open more land to white settlement

and mining operations. Many Cheyenne simply refused to comply, continuing to hunt and live on land that is now suddenly declared off limits to them, even though they have lived there for literally thousands

of years. Buffalo calf, Rhode Woman, is around 15 years old when all of the starts taking place. She's coming of age as this violence begins to intensify across the Plains.

And as writer Catherine Asgardner puts it, quote,

"She never experienced the Cheyenne life of her elders

"from birth until her death, her tribe and culture "were continuously under threat of extermination." And quote. And it's kind of fascinating because she has, and it'll come up a little bit later,

but she has a brother and imagining the life of a young woman who absolutely had to know how to fight. Absolutely had to be good at it. And in their culture, which is a militaristic culture, that was a big thing for the Cheyenne,

I just can't imagine that she didn't absolutely go get right into the training and the fray and everything else. She's a teenager watching her people being massacred. So in stark contrast to Buffalo calf, Rhode Woman's story, and the fact that we barely know anything about it,

we know a lot about the early life of George Armstrong Custer. He was born in Ohio in 1839, just a few years before

Custer is largely raised in Michigan.

“He develops an early knack for getting into trouble.”

He does very badly in school. He graduates last in his class at West Point in 1861. Last. That's kind of impressive. It's fucking nutsaued that he's one of the most famous,

like military personnel entities at this time. And he was the worst student in his class in 1860. He had an unbelievable 726 demerits. Jesus, which I guess is like, you're in trouble. Yeah, it happened that many times.

But the Civil War starts the same year that he graduates. So the US Army is desperate to fill ranks and Custer quickly becomes an officer. But his blatant disobedience is what helps him arguably rise. So quickly through the ranks,

he shoots up the chain of command while in his early 20s and becomes the subject of glowing union newspaper coverage, earning him the nickname, The Boy General.

And some of that reputation is earned, Custer is known

for charging straight into battle and relentlessly pushing his men while they're under fire with he himself often writing in the front of the cavalry instead of the back.

“He is seemingly unfazed by the threat of death.”

Any of that sound familiar to a certain personality. He type that you've heard of over the years. - The narcissist? - Sociopath. - Sociopath, right?

- Yep. It's just like no role supply to me. - Yeah. - I do what I want. - Yeah.

- And oh, it's something horribly dangerous. Let's all go over there. - Let's do it. - But he's also very smart and he's keenly aware

of the power of self-inthology.

So his public image is very calculated. As time magazine points out, "Custer Ghost wrote newspaper dispatches in which he pretended to be a correspondent and inflated his own roles in battles and military exploits."

- Wow, yeah, like he left comments in his own section. - Yeah. - Like, I love this. - He's so great. - Yeah.

- What a great leader. He's also very flashy.

“He perfumes his flowing blonde hair with cinnamon oil.”

And he wears a custom blue velvety jacket and a wide-brimmed hat and a bright red tie into battle. None of those are standard issue. That was whimsical.

- His costume. - "Custer Clearly wants to stand out. It works. He's famous before the war is through." So meanwhile, the situation on the plains

between the Cheyenne and the United States remains volatile in November of 1864, these tensions boil over in a horrific way when an army colonel named John Shivington approaches the Cheyenne and a rapper who camped

at Sand Creek in eastern Colorado. There's about 700 people at this camp and it's led by southern Cheyenne chief Black Kettle, who's repeatedly sought peace with the United States. So this is one of the many tribal leaders

of the native people who constantly were like, yeah, let's agree that, you know, let's do this. Let's divide up this land. There's plenty of it. We've been here a long time.

And every single time it'd be like, sure, sure, here's some pox filled blankets. - That's true. - Yeah. To the point where at this camp,

there's a white flag and an American flag flying. But Colorado's then Governor John Evans does not seem to care, he wants to Cheyenne removed from this area. So Shivington and some 700 volunteer soldiers

attacked the camp and they kill around 150 people. And most of them are women in children. The survivors are traumatized by memories of their loved ones being mutilated in front of them. News of the massacre spreads quickly across the plains,

provoking fury, despair, and the end of whatever hope was left that the U.S. could be trusted by the Cheyenne and the native people. And even some white Americans are outraged at the time. And Shivington ends up resigning in disgrace.

Still neither he nor any of his men are criminally prosecuted for the massacre at Sand Creek. Now it's 1865, the Confederacy has been defeated. This civil war comes to an end. So a now 25-year-old custer is sent to the front here.

He swaps his blue velveteen for buck skins, which again, are not standard issue. So he's got his new costume, his new personality. And his next assignment is to help force the plains tribes onto U.S. designated reservations.

These are very difficult campaigns for the United States. They are usually very much outmatched by the native warriors. Meanwhile in 1867, custer ditches his post to visit his wife in Kansas, which results in a court martial. His suspension from rank and the loss of his paycheck

for a year. Despite his and subordination, though, the U.S. army is convinced that they need someone as aggressive as custer to fight against these resisting planes tribes. So less than a year after being court martial,

he's reinstated, and the newspapers refer to it as, quote,

The system is beyond rigged.

“So the next year in 1868, the now 29-year-old custer”

is brought to Black Kettel's village now sitting on the Washeeda River in modern Oklahoma. Four years after the Sand Creek massacre, Black Kettel is still trying to broker peace with the United States, but the U.S. military increasingly

classifies any native communities living outside the reservations to be, quote, hostile adversaries. So custer's men carry out another brutal attack. They killed dozens of native people, including Black Kettel himself.

They killed the chief. Hundreds of horses are slaughtered, and lodges are burned to the ground. So news of these attacks, against bread rapidly across the plains, and, again, even among white settlers, the brutality and violence of this attack,

instantly makes custer a controversial leader. But it also cements him as one of the United States' most well-known, so-called, quote-unquote, Indian fighters.

“Around the same time in 1868, a second treaty”

of Fort Laramia signed. The treaties had the same name, 'cause they're signed at Fort Laramia at both times. But this treaty establishes the great sue reservation and recognizes the Black Hills in the Dakota territory

as belonging to the Lakota. But the same situation plays out here, like it did before. In 1874, gold is discovered in the Black Hills. White miners come flooding in. The U.S. Army, for its part, sends custer

to investigate the reports of gold. He confirms them, and then that leads the U.S. government to try to purchase the Black Hills back from the Lakota. Can you imagine the Lakota say, no, which begins to fuel tensions with the U.S.,

but then strengthens resistance among the planes tribes. So it's the Lakota, the Arapahoe, and the Cheyenne. So the U.S. seizes the Black Hills from the Lakota in 1877. And just FYI, a century later, in 1980, the Supreme Court rules this seizure was unjust,

and they awarded the Sunation Monetary Compensation. But the Sunation refused to take the money in assisting they just want the land back. Wow. The fight to return this land continues to this day.

It's believed that land is now worth more than $1 billion.

By 1876, the conflict between the United States Army and a coalition of Northern Cheyenne, Arapahoe and Lakota warriors has boiled over into the Great Sue War. Buffalo Kaffer Road Woman is now in her early 30s. And she's living in the Rosebud Valley of Montana,

along Rosebud Creek with Lakota and Arapahoe allies. And here, in June of 1876, a U.S. general named George Crook arrives outside of her camp with 1,300 of his men and the native coalition fights them in a battle that lasts several hours.

According to the tribal oral tradition, Buffalo Kaffer Road Woman's brother, a warrior named Comezin site, is among the thousands of native men who charge the U.S. soldiers. But during the fighting, Comezin site is knocked off his horse

and he gets trapped under fire. So essentially in these battles, if you get knocked off your horse,

it's basically your dead because someone just comes by

and shoots you. So he's on the ground, his death is all but ensured until his sister, Buffalo Kaffer Road Woman jumps onto her horse and charges directly into battle. She rides so fast, no bullets can strike her and per the oral account.

She pulls her brother up onto her horse and she gets him to safety. She's in the middle of a full-on war. In the end, the native coalition forces the U.S. troops to retreat. Today, United States history remembers this event

as the battle of the Rosebud, but the Cheyenne

“remember it as the fight where the girl saved her brother.”

Wow, Buffalo Kaffer Road Woman is believed to be the only female warrior who rides into this battle. So this native victory is extremely important because just eight days later, Custer arrives at another encampment belonging

to the same native coalition, but this time they're in the little Big Horn Valley in Southeastern Montana. And this time crucially, Custer does not have the amount of troops like reinforcements that General Crocod. They have all retreated after the loss at the battle of the Rosebud

at the fight where the girl saved her brother. But on top of that, Custer badly underestimates the size of the coalition that he is about to attack. And probably the talent of it. So on June 25, 1876, Custer and around 600 soldiers

arrive near the Little Big Horn encampment. His forces are split into several battalions intended to attack the camp from different directions. Custer himself heads north with about 200 men. But what they don't know is that word of this impending attack

They know it.

“They have looked at, they know how to use this land”

and protect their camps. And so immediately, they know that it's happening and thousands of warriors rise up and ride into battle. Many of the same who had just fought the battle of the Rosebud days earlier.

The battle of Little Big Horn is hard, fast, and totally chaotic. One U.S. battalion attacks only to immediately retreat after realizing how incredibly outnumbered they are

than a second battalion retreats.

And so, Custer looks around all his men are leaving. But he mix himself and his 200 men push forward anyway. And they're completely overwhelmed. In less than an hour, every single soldier riding with Custer is killed, including Custer himself.

- Holy shit. - And because there's no survivors who can report back to the army officially what happened, or to newspaper reporters, the historical record around Custer's last moments are very murky,

which, of course, then sets the stage for the full-care treatment that he ends up getting. What we do know is that Custer's body

“is found among dozens of his men with two bullet wounds.”

One is in his heart and the others in his head. It's not until 2005 in Billings, Montana, when those northern Cheyenne storytellers finally share their oral history of little big horn that we learned what really happened.

They say that Colonel Custer was shocked to death on the ground because he got knocked off his horse by a warrior's club. And that day, they reveal that the same woman who saved her brother from certain death

in the battle days before is the one who knocked Custer off his horse. It's Buffalo Caffer at woman. - Oh my God. - And the oral accounts describe her as being

quote out in the open during this intense battle. Wasn't like she was off to the side or whatever. She was in the fray and they also confirmed that quote, "She stayed on her horse the entire time." - Wow.

- So the battle of Little Big Horn is arguably the most famous native victory of the Plains Wars and one of the most infamous defeats in the U.S. Army's history. The Northern Cheyenne say that's the reason they kept

“the story of Buffalo Caffer Roadwoman a secret for so long.”

They were afraid that when the Army heard that a Cheyenne woman is basically the one who got Custer killed, it would result in even harsher assaults by the Army on their tribe. - Harshalation?

- Yeah. The U.S. still seeks retribution for the defeat and Buffalo Caffer Roadwoman like many Cheyenne remain under constant pressure from the military to submit to U.S. authority or be killed.

In 1877, she and her family will be forced onto an Oklahoma reservation. She spends about a year there and during brutal living conditions and it's believed there she gives birth to her second child.

Not long after, in 1878, she and her family joined what's known as the Northern Cheyenne Exodus, which was a desperate, defiant and ultimately successful push led by the Northern Cheyenne chiefs, morning star and little wolf, to leave the reservation

and return to its Montana homeland. So Buffalo Caffer Roadwoman is one of the 300 women men and children who escape the Oklahoma reservation. They set out on a dangerous exhausting journey, spanning hundreds of miles.

Along the way, members of the group are captured by American troops or their killed in skirmishes. Others die of exhaustion or of illness and Buffalo Caffer Roadwoman is among those. She dies in 1879, in her mid-30s,

likely of diphtheria, we're not sure. She's believed to be buried somewhere near present-day

miles city, Montana, but her grave has never been identified.

It's unclear how many members of this group ultimately made it to Montana, sources suggest it's less than half the original number. So around 150 people, but this Exodus puts enough political pressure on the U.S. government

that the Northern Cheyenne who do make it to Montana are not forced back to Oklahoma. This is how the Northern Cheyenne Indian reservation in Southeastern Montana is established in 1884. And of course, in death, general custer

and Buffalo Caffer Roadwoman could not have been treated more differently. Custer is the subject of countless history books biographies, paintings, photographs. Yet there isn't a single confirmed portrait

of Buffalo Caffer Roadwoman to be found. And most of the images that you see online have heard use either misidentified photos of other native women or sloppy eye where it's just sloppy eye.

So in February, 2026, the Trump administration issues an executive order calling for a review of signs and exhibits at national parks and monuments

that could be seen as critical of the U.S. government.

That includes signage at the site of the Battle of Little Big Corn. The Washington Post reported earlier this year

national monument in Montana, exhibit text

“that described the United States being, quote,”

"Hungry for gold and land, and breaking promises "to Native Americans was ordered changed or removed." - Just fucking rewrite history, I don't know, Chair. - Interacet. - Yeah.

- Worked before. Another text describing how U.S. run boarding schools for indigenous children violently erased cultural identities and language was also deemed not to comply with Trump's policy.

- The facts don't comply with your policy. Your fullings are on their fucking policy, I guess. - Okay. - It's not an option, no. It's not a choice to say it didn't happen.

- Well, not for fucking people who don't, it's a catech. - So the Northern Cheyenne leadership is actively opposing this administration's efforts. Tribal leaders issued a press release this past February saying quote,

"This attempt to change a remove tribal markers and monuments dims the light of the healing and progress "we have all made." - And quote, which is a very generous thing to say in the light of Native American progress.

- Right. - And how little any government has ever given them or made for them. - Yeah. - And you're trying to take that away.

- And then, but that goes to.

- While there's never been a monument

for Buffalo calf road woman, she has always been memorialized by her people who have carried the story of her courage, her strength, and her valor in two bloody battles for more than a century.

When telling Buffalo calf road woman's story, a Northern Cheyenne saying is often shared, and it says quote, "A nation is not conquered "until the hearts of its women are on the ground." Then it is done no matter how brave it's warriors

or how strong it's weapons. Buffalo calf road woman's heart was never on the ground. She stayed on her horse the whole time. - And that's what we're gonna do.

“- Hell yeah. - That's what we're gonna do.”

- Tonight we ride. - Tonight we ride. - Tonight we ride. And that's the story of the Cheyenne warrior, the one who defeated Custer, Buffalo calf road woman. - Wow.

I wish we could have the actual, like historical story because I bet it's even more badass. And there's even more fucking incredible things she did, but like another woman and like her tribe that we just don't know about.

And in thinking about that, how many stories have been lost of people just like her because of the annihilation of the genocide of the Native American people. In this country it is like gigantic tragedy, the effects of which continue to this day.

- Yeah, yeah, well great job.

I never heard that, I'm so glad I did.

- Right, me too. I wish we could know more. Do you wanna make a donation? - Definitely. - Let's donate to the Native American Rights Fund.

Here's their quote about themselves. They hold government accountable. They fight to protect Native American rights, resources and lifeways through litigation, legal advocacy, and legal expertise.

- Hell yeah. So we'll give them $10,000. If you wanna donate to the Native American Rights Fund, go to NARF.org and give them what you can give them. - Amazing, well great job.

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