BENNY BLANCO, DAVE BURD & KRISTIN BATALUCCO: Friends Keep Secrets… Or Do They? (Friendship, Weddings, Love)

You thought that was being looserish idea. Yeah, we just are born to be best friends

“You have any Matt at this Mexican restaurant and he said what can you bring to the table and I was like, what?”

I thought he's so sweet and he's so himself and he told me a story that lasted for a minute Benny Dave Kristen welcome to on purpose. Yeah, hi Benny come on Did you know what this is the first time we've had three people on the show together? Yeah, first ever times. You know that this is the first time someone has come on their own

With their fiance then wife and now with their best friends. Yeah, so we've never done that before either

So many you're all sorts of you're breaking all sorts of records. You're competing with Michelle Obama. There's been on the show twice you've been on three times Is your third time? So Dave on the huge fan. Thank you. It's happened. I thought I got the first to my met you I've known you for maybe under a year, but I love you. Oh, thank you I've been ever since I met you. I've loved you. Wow. Yeah, I do notice how he doesn't say it bad. I know he loves me But yeah, I said it already. He said he just said he said I was not up in his eyes

Very hard to look and Kristen. I've become a huge fan of you. I can't believe that I'm glad I'm glad that you still like me

“Honestly, the guys. This is awesome. It's so great to have all three of you in the room. I actually want to know”

How you all three met because I've no idea. I don't think I've ever lost to that people well I guess I'm the glue between the two of the three, you know

I met Benny he basically from the day I put any music out

He actually the first day at least anything he tweeted like something Positive about me. Wow. Yeah, so he like it was really you know one of the first day to have a guy like him reach out And then I yeah, I like said something be like kind of communicated back in a force a little bit And then we almost saw each other one of my concerts and we didn't really hang out and then I don't the first time we met No, we don't know for sure when the very first we can't place it my memory of like the first real memory

I have is we met at this Mexican restaurant and I think he was maybe trying to sign me or maybe just trying to explain the value that he could add to my life in my career And I had really didn't see any value at it

“That's what he said. It was like a date. Did you say that he said he said or would it what can you bring to the table?”

And I was like what that was like his first thing he said to me now at hindsight I was totally wrong Yeah, I bring to the table. It brings everything best friend all of your brings that life Just proof in the put a yeah, I think it was instant also independent of our respective talents merging and being able to add Each other's talent careers. We would be best friends if we were like in Arkansas and we both were plumbers

You know what I mean like we just are born to be best friends and then I met Kristen years later and then they met because I think yeah You tell the story. I met Kristen years later bowling alley a writer on my TV show Vanessa kind of set us up and Kristen didn't know that I was going to more or less Scout me a scout her. How has been scouted that man? No, not not for the show. No, no

I always told Vanessa because I love this woman Vanessa who's one of the main writers on my show and she's a great person

I always said keep it because I was just a hopeless romantic single guy for like a decade And I would say don't you have any friends don't you know anybody and then she would say yeah I'm looking around and then Kristen had been in a relationship for pretty much her whole life and then she kind of got Going for like a three week period and then Vanessa was bowling with her and she realized oh my god, Dave and Then she texted me while she was at the alley being like hey, I don't know what you're doing

It was like 10 p.m. And she was like I don't know what you're doing But I'm with someone who might be your wife and I dropped everything I was doing immediately when over there late joined them late They were already done bowling by the time I got there So I got to take everyone's turn and then we just started talking about nachos

Didn't you ball us dry I bought I bought a strike first thing. I did I bought a strike like that's first. How did you pull that? I just I'm a good athlete. I love what you didn't see I didn't know so I think I was doing my own thing Didn't not the group. Yeah, she was doing her own thing. Then we started talking about I remember one of the first things I said to her We're like what are those?

And I pointed to a plate of nachos and she said those are nachos So I said I know I'm just making small talk I like that. I know that was such a good like intro Yeah, and that was this first intro like it was yeah I mean

He said down next to me and said what are those and I liked that he was like I'm just making small talk I feel like it was like the intro into his personality and you were trying that was

Well, no, you said you didn't like it because I was wearing glasses. I said it wasn't love at first sight I was going to ask was in instant connection because she was wearing these big glasses I can see her face seeing you and yeah, she doesn't often work like that. I was going through a lot And I was wearing the same clothes for like two weeks straight. And this was my first adventure out. Yeah, not shades like no

They were like because it was I think I drove there. Yeah, I drove me home. Yeah, because she was she never lives in

Venice or lived in Venice and I was living in Venice and she happened to be staying in Airbnb for that week in Venice So it only made sense really be like I got a ride home So then I had like an extra 40 minute ride where we just talked no he he told me a story There lasted 40 minutes really what was the story I thought he's so sweet and he's so himself and I was like I was really happy to I felt like you what's such an ease to you that was rare like you were really willing to be like

Boner bull but I also was like the story's very long story about me pooping my pants. Yeah, and you chose That it's my funniest best story, but it was like him talking the entire the entire practice. It's like a 15 minute story Yes, and I was like yeah, I've said it so many times and then ironically I believe that you guys probably met for the first time at a bowling alley Because remember right before never for my TV show premiere season one I had all my friends come in from out of town and we all met at the bowling alley the one time and Kristen was there and I was like

“Don't make it that like don't say anything that I don't want you to say remember that”

Maybe I remember two I remember two times specifically. I remember once like in the very beginning of their relationship I remember once After your actual premiere and we like all walked up to yeah, I remember that time and I remember like in In that time

Being like this girl's really cool. I was like nothing not thinking because your first impression

He's like that I mean my girlfriend. No, no, no, no, they was not his girlfriend. It was a girl. He was like No, it was like in my mind, I was his girlfriend and then now you find it is a best time if I don't And then the turning point really in their relationship I think was that night at like our birthday party That was like that was I remember it so clearly I do what it was for you Kristen

You remember a different it's a bad memory. It was it was it wasn't the best

“You weren't the you weren't like exhibiting the best to be if you know I was lashing out do you want to hear what happened?”

James I do want to hear what happened. Thank you. We met in like January 31st We had our birthday party like six weeks later. We have joined birthday parties every year and Look what I'm about to say is pathetic but they really were Like the Super Bowl of like being a single man but I

Never would even have a bird never would even throw myself a birthday party if it weren't for many

So now all of a sudden every year. I'm having like the most upscale birthday parties planned by him completely where All these people and Women and they know it's like my party and like so there's just this building icebreaker where like people want to come up to me and talk to me And I just had this feeling that we were gonna start dating and You know if you know me you know that I have trouble like wrapping my head around

Not necessarily commitment, but just like I'm a turnover every stone kind of guy and everything I do and it really stone was here Don't think it's a turnover Now as I continue to tell the story I want you to know that I'm ashamed of my behavior. This is not something that I'm proud of

“But I think I just knew that we were going to end up dating and”

But it was too early to be like I didn't have to commit yet to be quite honest, which is a really misogynistic thing to say And I knew that I didn't have to commit and I also knew my days were numbered of having Romantic freedom because I felt like I was about to be totally in a community relationship and I think I don't know I just kind of like overreacted and but for whatever reason I went into the night being like I'm not committed to Kristen tonight

We're not I'm not necessarily going home with Kristen tonight. I'm gonna do my own thing But can I because I didn't do you're making it seem like I went in there being like we have to be remarried? No, she didn't do it. I'd like to hear Kristen, right? Yeah, please when in there with like I think there was like 7 of girlfriend's of mine and I played it so like I don't like to play it cool. It's very hard for me to play it cool I'm glad that when he thought I was cool when he first met me, but that's not me

And so I was like, okay, well, this is fun. I like a party I'm just gonna be like free and not expect anything from him So I didn't all night and then as the night came to an end It was kind of like, well, we all know The expectation that we're gonna like hang up. We haven't hung out yet and he just had such a like um you had such a

I knew exactly what he was doing like I could sense what he was doing and then I think I was like well, this is lame And then it got into a little bit of a like I would say at the end a flirt I'd like to interject you

There was a flirt battle going on back and forth and it was like so So strange it was like yeah, it was like so strange and and childish in the moment and you see now We're moving yeah, and we were in such a small area because now it was like the after party

“It was like such it like it it was like 50 people total and I remember”

Going to the bathroom there was like a communal bathroom you're going to and I was like with Dave and and we were drunk And and he was just like what he said he was talking about how this was like one of the best nights of his life and he was like No, he was the first time you're hearing the story Well, I have something I forget the details and then it was like it was a sad time basically But not really he was

In the moment and that night she was talking about like leaving and like before we went into the bathroom and she was like Visibly upset it. Who's about to leave she might have even just just walked out. Yeah, she did And I was like okay, there was like maybe you didn't lie on the ground after I don't remember if there was tears or anything Here's no one saw them so that's the tidbit that I'm providing so she walks out and I remember talking to Dave and I was like Dave I was like what are you doing? I was like she's so cool. She's beautiful and I would and yeah

It was like his sentiment was kind of like the what he was saying where he's like What if there's more like I'm so like he was like I'm about this is All but it's more no Everything he just said was the subtext But really all you said I remember specifically you were like I don't know you were like I kind of like bad aluca

Yeah, that's it and then and then and then and then at the end I was like I was like I was like I was like I don't know a check like I really I like bad aluca and then Then I call her and then he called her and one foot in the car. Yeah, and then she was like out of a mood

And then we never split up for what what was it for you?

That when this is it no more stones to be turned over like I'm not the kind of guy that did what I said I just did at the thing so I just felt a little bit bad about I'm just not that guy and I don't it's like What what am I looking for someone else when I have such a great person who wants to hang out with me now at that point I don't think either one of us necessarily knew we were going to get married I don't think you knew we were going to get married six weeks now

“Remember I think the first thing I said like on our second date. I was like, is this a dead end?”

Like yeah, so I was I was angling for marriage So our second day to say this is it's just a dead end. This is second date. If us not getting married Is it dead end? It's totally possible that this is a dead end, but if you're saying it's a dead end If we aren't actually married I can't answer that question. It's a second. Yes, but Kristen from you're said like you're Angling for marriage on the second. Like you're really clear about what you want. Yeah. Yeah. A what's making it clear that this is the guy you want to be with and

Be what's making you confident to be so Clear about what you want because I think so many people who listen to the show I know they actually feel quite scared yeah on their second date to actually be honest about what they're looking for Well, I went into it being like I was 30 and I'd come out of a long relationship and I felt like I had this whole narrative in my head which I think the narrative is true that it's like why should women have to

kind of play like this game of let them chase you or like I feel like they're so often even with my friends

Like even with day they'd be like don't be too aggressive like don't because I very much always just said what I wanted

Which was like I like taking out with you letting out again and I felt like I didn't want to waste time like letting him Drive the relationship so I just thought it's better off that I Figure out if we're a bad fit than like let it go too long also. I'm only getting older and It is remarkable how infrequent I want in a lot of dates. I dated a lot of people over a tenure not really any Seriously, but I want in a lot of dates and it's very rare that

I was held accountable and like you know where I feel like oftentimes There are games that are played that that are totally predisposed to advantage the man and I was very much Down to lean into that because it advantageed me. I was ready to debate like I was I was like waiting for him to be like for the challenge

Yeah, like here are all the reasons why it like why I'm not ready or whatever and then I kind of always came into the situation

Like we were always able to talk about it like you would be overwhelmed with like your work and you thought that because if you're dating somebody That means that you can't work and have like a career. Yeah, so I was always up for the debate

“During a time and then I just think I think no I was thinking about it because it's like I think we're actually in”

A time where like I think it's sexy when a woman does that like when like when Selena was doing that to me like she was just like her like Very much when we talk about it. Yeah, we would have I'd be like you have to go for these you have to go after that

Yeah, I want like cuz you know David saying like you know

You know sometimes when you're dating someone they might not want to say something to rock the boat and like I love when Selena would turn over it'd be three in the morning and we were dating for like three since you'd be like Well, what are we and I was like what and that she was like well when I go to New York this week And what am I gonna tell people we are and I was like it like she like caught me so off guard

“It's cool to have that dynamic we're like both person both people are like on that same level and I think I do see it like”

I feel like I do cuz a lot of my friends are like that where I see women starting to do that a lot more now And I think it's I think it's cool like I think it shows like such a Confidence like you know some people look at it like some of my friends look at it like oh like that's so

Needer that's so I'm like that's a person telling you exactly what they want like I don't want to play these games like and when you're and it's okay

To be needy like I think it's okay Oh my god, exactly how you are and it's Selena like yeah in the morning She'll say like she'll be like today's a needy day and she'll be and and When you are with someone who can because it's so hard when you're trying to play guessing Yeah, like when you're trying to talk with your partner who doesn't express themselves

It's so difficult to meet them in the right place and then they're like harboring all this resentment But yeah, like Selena wake up in the morning and she'll say okay today's like a needy day I need you to be like extra nice to me extra gentle and then you are set up for success Yeah, I should say on behalf of Dave like I did trust my instincts which was that I could tell that Dave Like I knew who he was as a person and I knew it was just his anxieties that were kind of like overriding

This entire situation it wasn't like I was like totally shooting in the dark totally when I look back on it like it is crazy to me That now that I know her and everything that I wasn't after the first day week whatever being like oh my god That's the person I'm gonna like to me. It's so obvious like that she is my soulmate But it was good that all the reason I wasn't but truly the only reason I didn't see it was because of my own anxiety It's wouldn't even allow me to see it because as soon as we start just spending more time together

I was like she's the funniest most beautiful perfect that I couldn't even believe that I was it was a debate and

What I said to myself? I said I always I feel like I was in a lot of relationships where I didn't always be like

I was the one that like chased or I had like all of the agency and I would after my last relationship before day If I was like I want to chase the person I marry and I want to be the one that's like choosing because so often you kind of I don't know I felt like so so many of my past relationships were more like You know like you're I know you're being pursued. Yeah, or something or like it's just

“easier to stay whatever. I think so with Dave well before Dave I was like I want to like chase”

My husband like I want to be like I really know that I want this not like this is easy But I feel like it's set you them up for such success because when I look at them There's couldn't be more even in a related and like I feel like that's when a relationship wins Like no person has the upper hand in their relationship There's no like bat like there's like funny like banter back and forth and I love that but it's like they truly like

Watching both of them they truly Want each other to win and and then that's when I feel like that's when the relationship works I've been in relationships where The person is secretly like competitive. Yeah, they're like competitive or I've been in relationships Where something good happens to me and I'm keeping it from the person because I'm scared

There are like I had a time where like I like won some big award and I went into a closet to answer the call and be Excited because I was too scared. Yeah, yeah, like that's like the worst type of relationship to be in like I want to be in a relationship where like my partner is like Cares more about like they like feel like they care more about you than their own thing and you feel that way too

“And you guys are just like the ultimate cheerleader for each other. Yeah, well you guys I mean what's amazing though?”

Is that you guys are living the dream because you guys are best friends and then your wife and your best friend are really great friends Yeah, and that's so special and the fact that you guys used to your birthdays together The fact that you also got married in the same year. Yeah, I mean my mom and she's so close to Selena too Yeah, it's like it's been it's perfect. I'm so happy it work like you know when you know when's one of your friends dates someone that you're like And like

Crazy you have done. What would you have done? Oh my god. I've been that guy. I've dated someone where my friend I've dated multiple people where I mean one time I I broke up with a person I was with and my friends Wanted to throw me a party like and I said I said well, why didn't anyone tell me when I was in it? And they said we supposed to tell you they said we made we made gestures and and and yeah Dave if you haven't made gestures to Benny in that way. No, I wouldn't he has slightly in his own way not as blunt

I just like to speak about the facts at hand. So I always

To fact based I'm a helping hand with anyone who wants to analyze the facts at hand, but you know Love is a particular thing that sometimes transcends fact So pretty good right, yeah You like found something like that is beautiful. I get what you're saying it's like when you when you Know someone you have a friend and they like really into this person yeah, yeah, you kind of like well

Maybe there's a part of that I don't want to mess up because they see something I don't see it It's not your place necessarily to be like, you know, I know you love this person, but just see you know You shouldn't yeah What what was it like though going from this part is to actually get married a month apart like to be Each other's wedding level's parting high level part. No stressful. We were so tired

“I think we were all really tired. I was really tired. I liked it. I mean I really enjoyed it to me”

I was like our wedding was the best night of our lives and it was so great and I just remember being so happy That I had his wedding. Yeah, I was like and the fun isn't done and I remember selling I said to her I said we should really try to have as much fun as possible because

nights don't always have this upside potential of how fun and I can be the way and like we just had the most like

Very rarely do you go and do a night where it has the potential to be the most fun night of your life and Our wedding of course had that potential it felt so good but it actually was like you know I would have called a fact a fact if it was in any way shorter than I would have one especially because of pain all this goddamn mine But it really was it was the best night. It was so perfect and then I just remember being so excited for his and his was perfect

And we had the bathroom between oh go on circuit. We had like we had it was like we're saying that we're like kicking off Like it was our wedding and then we had in between our wedding and they're wedding. We each separately went on like You know, I went to like Selena's and Dave went to Benny's and then we had that we had the wedding so it was like a fun two months

“Question what was your favorite thing about Benny and Selena's wedding?”

Probably the vows. It's so like watching your close friends get married and like hearing what? No, no, I was thinking remembering how his face moved when he would cry. I mean, I couldn't see anything because I was behind a pole But I heard the bug you didn't get like prefer seeing or anything. I did get the front row seat, but I I didn't know people were going to sit between me and Benny's family, so I like sat all the way to the side She just had she had she had market textual issue

But that was the best part tell us about the bones their vows were so good and I think Well and Dave appreciated which I also obviously enjoyed I just loved hearing it's like it was nice to kind of hear them be serious Like you're not it's so rare that you're gonna like hear your friends You know say they're love Is like what they're doing in your vows

“You know especially okay, so my perspective by the way, I couldn't have a better view like they're like I'm like right there and they're right here”

Yeah, and so because you are fishing yeah, so have you done one before? No, well, I've actually never even given a best man speech

So like the whole thing and then it's also such a tricky because like I'm almost giving a best man speech But it's also right there at the altar, so you can't even do the pressure those things It was a lot of pressure, but I really felt born for that moment and it was really look Selena Like when the curtain went away and it was her and she started she like literally I'm low to say that she looked like a princess, but she just looked like

Fairy tail like The sun that it was like the most inmate the sun like was Setting the hinder and they had like these beautiful tents so when she this is what I did see it a little bit up when she was like walking It was like it was like majestic. Yeah, and like you know, she pulls out this like I'm living this hand look this book of scriptures, or yeah, that is like her vows that were like written by hand

And she like lost five days earlier that Benny had like a lot wrote her vows for like a year And then she lost them like right before the one and then Benny found there's like pull that They double point. Yeah, you found it on the day and she doesn't have that There are a few days before but like her vows are just like you know and and then Benny like you know Obviously Benny has a high level of emotional capacity and sensitivity, but he's definitely a Joker

And to see him just Break like it can become Just a shell of a man like his face puddle like it's I never like when Selena when the curtain got revealed and she it's face was like Because I was trying not to okay so When we did the first look I was like oh

Easy I'm not even crying, but when she came out to the music my face I was like I'm not ready to cry this early

Like I can't even do it. I was like I recently watched the video back and it's insane

It's weird. It has see someone's face so often and then realize you've never seen their face

Do a certain thing as a weird feeling to feel that's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing I'm never nervous and I was before it happened

“All of a sudden got so nervous and like 10 times I was like should I have him print mine out bigger?”

Should I do it somehow and like ask them all these questions and then he made me walk out to like everyone's seated Thinking the things about to start and he made me walk out alone like down the aisle essentially and like double check and he had multiple Pernouts of the thing already sitting up there. I remember being so nervous And then for some reason the second I turned into the room Everything melted away and it was like I wasn't nervous at all anymore and it was it was so cool to see there's was like

Train I was gonna there. Yeah, there's was like training and there's was I I really can't stress It was the best wedding I'd ever been to in my life. I think also it's because it's like the people like I care

I've never like I cried so much at their wedding during their vows. I was bawling and you think about your friends

But then like to see Them do this thing that's so like final. It was so And they're both so well spoken and funny, but also serious and like yeah I don't usually see Dave serious. I never see Kristen here like we're all those people who kind of like make like I'll probably be laughing at like my friend's funeral like because I like can't like it's it's it's it's like a coping mechanism

and to watch them do that was so fun and Everything was perfect and I there week their wedding was one of the best weekends of my life and then I was like oh my god I have my own to look forward to and I had that feeling where I was so Scared that mine wasn't gonna live up to what it was in my head and it was so far beyond

“What like the only thing I didn't like is”

Cocktail hour because I kept having to say hi to everyone. I said am I gonna be doing this the whole night I tried to get you to do the thing you didn't want to do it. Well, no, we did it. We did it And we did it like we took we should have we basically went Dave and I like had to go to the bathroom So we before Benny and sleep. I had seen this. It was our wedding was when I even knew about this Did you do this like like where they they take you into the reception before the guests come they plucked you from Cocktail hour

Five minutes early take you to where the band doesn't where dinner is and they like let you see it all Yeah, and it was like our favorite part of our wedding and then we had to go to the bathroom So we went into Benny and sleep as before they had seen it and we were like oh my god This is incredible. They have to see it so we were like should we pull them away and pulling them away It was like so hard. I thought you know what I felt like they were being bombarded

They were and I was just like they're missed. They're only then at the tempting that they're seeing it was the most beautiful tent

Oh, and you never go to see it. No, they're not empty

But they but I but I made them do drag. I was just like I just had this instinct that I knew better

“And I didn't know what was your wedding like I think do I remember this correctly was yours?”

Like some sort of thing like outside and you're like a brick like no No, that was just a fair sheet. That was just a fun show. No, this year's our tenure wedding Annabes. Oh, I want to know I want to know this this is my real question My real is not your podcast. I have a question for you. I have a question. I've got one question. I'll let you ask one question I have one question

He's got to think of the question. No, no, no, no, it's such a good question I just want to word it the right way Okay, you're 10 years in Tunie by Jay My wife your 10 years in what have you learned in this time that you that you

Thought you knew when you were 10 years before and what do you want like the next 10 years to be like? Yeah, two question good question. Good question. It's similar to the way you're either talking about each other I feel like you think you love your partner the most you could love them when you're wedding day And then you realize you had no idea how much you could love them they 10 years on it's just like I Thought I loved my wife like the most I could ever love her and then you actually go through life

You go through challenges you go through up and downs. We we got married Change jobs moved country and moved home all in the same year Wow and so like we went through so much and I feel like that could either break you or make you closer and for us It just brought us closer than the pandemic We've stuck together every day and it brought us close and I think that could have been it so I feel like when you've been through so much life together

You just have so much proof that you love each other through so many different versions of each other

In 10 years because my wife has been so many different versions of herself should probably so I've been pretty much the same But I feel like I feel like she has changed so many times in beautiful ways and so you're learning to fall in love again So this idea of oh, I know you every move and I know everything about you. It's like I actually don't Yeah, and I feel like I'm constantly on my toes and Because we end up spending a bit of time away from each other every year because of work

I feel like we're still dating which is really fun actually I love the fact that we don't see each other all the time That's important. Then there's a sense of like I can't wait to get back to you So we see each other Too much today. Well, not too much for me. Yeah, I was like. I was trying to convince my wife to do a reality show with me

Because I was like I just want to be with you all day

Like that would be my dream. She's like we're never doing a reality

Oh my God, yeah, yeah, thank you. I don't know who else would because there wouldn't be much drama We'd have to create some drama like get after find ways that after in invite drama

“But did you guys ever think like we're here to talk about friends keep secrets?”

The show not a podcast not a live stream. Did you ever believe that you guys would be doing a show together? I think it makes sense. Yeah, very. Yes, because we I Don't think we saw I didn't necessarily see it coming But it really kind of was this perfect storm of things happening at the right time and like Kristen was very She was always even as I was making Dave in my

Just always on TikTok and always being like there's something that's so rewarding about real human behavior

And she was always kind of on the forefront of knowing that

Consumption patterns are really changing and that was something that I I really respect her opinion About a lot of things and that was something that was in my head and separately in me and Benny had kind of just flirting with the idea of a podcast for Years, but I never really saw it as a thing that I wanted to do and more changed. I think one day I was like, but what if like we Like rigged our house and what if you take the same like creativity that two of you have and you try to change

What this is versus trying to like fit the mold of what everything else is and I feel like that's when you were and

“I think Benny like separately had the same idea because we all got in the phone and he was like yeah, we can literally”

Like he was like I was so I just think it was The perfect storm for you to be like this is exciting once I started thinking about the potential to reinvent things and make things different Then I got really excited about it and then only when we started doing it did I that I really like fall in love with everything because I said this to them all the time My me even going for it as a comedic presence only happened because I was trying to entertain my friends and be like the funny guy to my friends and that is my

What I am the happiest when I'm around my best friends and I'm like seeking the joke and trying to make them laugh and then I went for it. I try you know I became a comedian made my show Dave and like a show like Dave it requires so much Like hard work. I believe it and like everything that seems like it's all so fun and light Like the amount of brain power that goes into executing it is so next level that

Actually making the show day of Can be torturous

Whereas as soon as we started doing this I've never had morph. It's just like I was the inner child and it was like now

Having fun with my best friends again and then even seeing the footage of it and understanding how it all was working

“To me, I think back to Kristen's original thesis. There's nothing more compelling”

I think the COVID actually caused us because the show is stopping made and People were just at home and then Tiktok was blowing up and we were just seeing over and over again human beings being themselves and being really entertaining and fun to watch and so I think at the end of the day Things are only as good as the characters that that are there and we're just being ourselves and The really is nothing pure

Then like having a great time with your best friends and it's all everything that's happening. It's so real and organic and like they're like the amount of Hard laughs that are happening with all three of us as we're filming it is I've been talking for a long time I'm realize. No, I'm making it I realize how I know. I like she allowed for that space Okay, sure, yeah, he allows us okay. I've still remember the first call when you called me up I was like I think the you know man Dave and Kristen want to start this show and in my head

I was like oh great, you know, we'll put some microphones down. We're gonna sit down We're another interview show you guys will have great guests and then as this things evolved. I was just like your guys create a vision The way you're shifting up the industry the way this show is gonna Change the way people think about what a podcast is one interview is. It's amazing and honestly It's been such a joy like seeing you guys putting the work putting the hustle but also the most important thing is I feel like

But then I just got to walk in to an episode which is insane. Yeah, and I'm like I couldn't believe just how crazy Real authentic and and you know people throw those words around. Yeah, so I don't even like using those words because nowadays everyone's like oh It's so authentic. It's so this It's not even that it's just is what it is like it is just three friends I don't even know what's coming. Yeah, we're getting these random conversations and arguments that have become so passionate

That I feel like anyone watching a group or anyone in their own group of friends is able to relate to like It's really just us kind of living and existing and it's a fly on the wall observation of that

“I think what's fascinating about it on a more thoughtful level is one of the things”

I'm trying to do with the work. I'm that we're putting out the end of the world is trying to make people feel less alone

And and I feel like this show makes people feel less alone. She always says there's a loneliness

Ademic well because there is but I felt like I realized I do think after COVID like all of our social lives have Slowed down or if they haven't there was like there was definitely like a period where socializing beyond the anxiety of like COVID kind of creed that there was like a learning curve to kind of get back into it and putting yourself out there And I really resonate with like TikTok and it's not like I love watching people and like Michigan or like random state You know like home videos essentially of like people hanging out and I feel like

One cool thing about us is I mean, especially Benny and that Davis cool, but like I feel like when we met Benny You were such a good host you always like have us over and like we have so much fun and we meet new people and I think we Now have the opportunity to like bring people into that experience which is what I like on TikTok I'll tell you some I

“Was I was with my friend the other day and we were hanging out and he was he like just went through a breakup”

You know, I don't ever watch myself back I'm not like a guy that does that I don't like once it's there. It's there I like all asked my manager. I'll say hey, did I say something stupid and I'll be like yeah This was stupid and I'll say okay take it out like I'm not like a I don't want a I can't do that In any like I don't want to look at a magazine. I don't want to do any of that

But my friend wasn't feeling great and I said let me put on an episode of of our new show and

I put it on and it first he's like staring at it and he's

Laughing uncontrollably and he's like and it just like following along to everything and it got to the point where we start Having our normal conversation and it's just playing in the background and it's just like it just We were like in it But then we go do our own thing and then we come back to it and we were like it was so cool to have It's like a constant friend in the corner and it was like whenever there was like a LOL in the conversation

We would just start watching Yeah, that's the thing again and it was and it and we were laughing and we would like posit and then talk about like our own stories We were like oh my god that reminds me of and it's a me I feel like we live in a world where there's constantly so much static and noise of like not great things and I feel like there's a way

To put something good into the earth without like pushing like pushing it down people It's like trying to do like some educational like it's it's like when we did earth like we made Earth and it had a really good sentiment behind it But it was talking about like your penis and a bad boons, but like it's like like I think there's a way To do something good for it and not take yourself so serious

And we talk about real-life shit on this podcast. It's not a podcast, but I was waiting for that day He's good It's not only yeah, it's multimedia Yeah, he wants to change the name to multi media multimedia. No, I'm like type of me Yeah, right seems a bit like 90s. Yeah, it's classic vintage vintage

No one wants it though, so it's still friends keep secrets Oh, you wanted to change the name to what yeah, yeah, yeah, you like send a serious text

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing. I forgot that I just

Had it made it to you. Yeah, I got shot down. It's not the right idea. I don't think Benny replied

“No, but that's what I love about what you guys can do like you guys are doing something that not a lot of people can do”

You guys can have fun Be ridiculous talk about crazy stuff and have a moral message to wrap it up with which is and say oh No, yeah, and I think that's the beautiful thing that you're making people feel close But for you Dave like you're working with your wife and your best friend. Yeah in the same space Yeah, I feel like you have the hardest job

Because that sounds you say that, yeah, I just wanted to empathize like take a moment to acknowledge that you're in the middle Like how just working with friends loved ones is hard anyway. Yeah, check. How are you? How are you managing it? I look I really had no fear going into it because I just know both of them so well and I've I just feel like I

Couldn't analyze whatever facts at hand that are and Talk about them fairly logically or whatever. So I'm we get in little spats and arguments all the time

“What's the roles usually who starts the fight who continues?”

Three of us are equally annoying to often like yeah, it really varies in all of us two different things I love but I love all of them. They're so fun. But I just I just I just don't know go on I don't know that there's really no Argument or moment that could ever be the type of thing that we couldn't logically talk about it and arrive at the facts at hand

So ultimately I have no fear. I also have a pretty high tolerance for

Like understanding him understanding her understanding when to leave things be And I think all of us kind of do them we're also close that I don't know for me It's literally like I work so hard that nothing makes me happier than getting to work so hard and hang out with my best friend and wife while doing it Yeah, and I think we all communicate the same way like we can kind of get like wrapped up and get like not aggressive But passionate we're all aggressive

But we don't think it like I feel like we'll do it and then like two seconds later

“We'll be like we'll be fine and I think that's like yeah, it's unique to kind of find people that communicate the same way that you do in these moments”

I mean we can definitely get on each other's nerves, but it's never like like it's never like taken personal Really, I'm never mad at any That's what I'm saying Oh, you are annoyed you get annoyed. No, but I'm never it's like what you say

Yeah, like it goes like the second the conversation never mad at anyone

Like we get wrapped up together like yeah like I don't think I could ever like be like Actually really angry at you guys. I don't think that could never be a thing. We're also none of us are that type of person Yeah, I agree. He's only been angry at me one time and his entire life in the reason was we were coming home from Coachella and He was really tired and he hadn't slept in the type of like situate He had not a full night sleep in a few days and he needs a full night sleep and he's getting his stuff out of the car

And I'm getting myself out of the car and I kind of like like

“Kicked his knee or something and and I can't even I think you like I like it was like”

Yeah, I was like pushed me from. Yeah, I was like pushing him like as a joke and he was like no No, he pushed me playfully. Oh, you hit your hand. And my chin Hit the like the car and hurt so much He goes get off of me And he was and then I laughed at him. Yeah, it was it was angry for about 15 seconds. So how do you guys make decisions then?

Oh Group conversation. Yeah, it can get got it. There's a vote. No, it gets revved up. It got revved up

Yeah, I like to bring the vote and but you she'll never insert her. I don't want the vote

I want us to talk it out. I like the vote. He likes the we we So it's a two out a three like the book. I definitely think what what I I've noticed that I do sometimes feel This isn't like a bad thing. I can tell that I'm like a little bit more sensitive than the two of them Like I think it's like a guy girl thing Maybe not I don't want to make such an assumption, but I would say that like

I would say that I am the more sensitive one of the three of us, would you guys not well? I'm not sensitive. I'm not sensitive about that type of stuff. Like I'm it's sensitive. Like I'm crying in a movie I saw like yeah, I'm not sensitive and I don't think Dave is either like if someone is just like like I want someone to tell me also in the studio All like I don't like the sugar code like just be if someone's just like oh, like that that didn't work. Let's do this

I'm like oh great like let's try it again. No, I like that too. Yeah, you know, you're sad You're so much different. She's sensitive in a different way that I get yeah like me and Dave have been doing this We've been in the foreground putting ourselves out there for many many years. This is Christan's like first thing Is that like everyone's first impression on her is like it's not like She's like back in the day where like it would be like Michael Jackson would perform once and you'd be like man

I wonder what he's like as a guy. There was like no other media. We're seeing like every like nookin cranny like she left Show like Bird bird like sweat. Yeah, and she's so Honest and it's so rare that you see it's funny Like her and Selena I see why they're such good friends because it's like there's so many similarities where like

I feel like sometimes Like you and Selena have the thing where you're both like so brutally honest about how you're feeling and it's like it's so comedic too. It's like funny. It's like. Yeah. I like can't explain it. Yeah, like you're just saying like you're sweating like I feel like like most like especially because you guys are like so well put together and like I'm nothing like no No, but like Selena say the same thing. She'll be like I'm sweating and I'm having like an anxiety attack right now like and I love that

About you guys and I do feel like there's also a lot of use out there. Oh, yeah, and I think like you're gonna inspire people

Your insecurities on your sleeve in a cool way. Yeah, and I like it. I love it. I love it. I like that it's cool

How does it feel for you Kristen? Like obviously, this is a big deal. It is the first time you're gonna be

here's the first interview you're doing right? I almost didn't come. I was gonna say that I had the stomach flu I was like I was like thinking oh, I'm so I'm not I'm taking that so long. And you would have known why wouldn't well you should know I actually like this interview. I'm doing fine. Yeah, there is like a spit bubble that keeps coming like a smile. That's a little bit high. Yeah, right before we did this she had a full thing of lipstick across her mouth and I told her right before. Yeah, it has an argument. I've been

lasted longer than the recording of one of the episodes. No, is anyone but a sleep? No, you've got a reposition. Do you want to have a little walk around? No, no, no, no. No, I don't want to be except to these two. No, I can't be the first man to ever just reposition your butt. Jay said that nobody has ever used the bathroom during an interview ever except him once with Kevin Ha, I thought somebody else. I can't Kevin, do you mind if I used the button? And you're gonna do

you use this one? Yeah, the one back there. You know, I always ask people like I always wonder like

do they use the bathroom? No, like when like a Dell is performing like is she ever just like, oh my gosh, I ate something great like like does like like does anyone have to

“boop ever done the best like find a routine for women's in their life. Like that's how athletes”

my stuff is always right before I have to go to that like I pee when I'm nervous which is so nice for our podcast because I get up and go to the bathroom like I would say like four times an episode you were to hydrate well though. Not really, it's honestly yeah I had to as soon as I sat down but I've already gone it's just nerves like it's like to me it's a nerve-based thing it's not actually I don't know. Check, do you think your pee's nerve-based? It's not pee but I'm surprised at how

often I'll have to poop like 30 minutes before a concert. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can relate to that. I can relate to that. What is that nerve that's all you're doing? I don't understand how to like evacuate before and when I used it like I did before five minutes before gone still. When I was younger when I like first like really in New York like first got on the dating scene I used it any time I was gonna have a date with the girl and she was about to come over and we were

gonna leave I would like I'd have to poop like two minutes before and would have been every time until like I got really comfortable with it and I would and I would be I would be honest like I used to use that as one of my like icebreakers or like my other I would just like be like my other

“icebreaker I would say is I would say I don't usually do this these but what's the worst thing you've”

ever done in your entire life and then we both say the worst thing we ever did in our whole life and I'd be like okay now I feel like I know you and I also have blackmail on you in case like this doesn't go well how did you come up with that did it work now I didn't do it I didn't do it I didn't do it with Selena there you go

I feel like you always think like I like through dating I was like oh like I'm like my

soulmate or like oh I met the person I could spend the rest of my life but it's so different when you actually meet the person that you are gonna spend the rest of your life with it was such a different feeling and all and I like went back and I was like whoa those feelings when I was younger like that it was so different because it just clicks you know what I'm saying it clicks in a different way what's Selena's reaction when she sees you cry at the altar like on the wedding day like what's

“her reaction to the trying to compare it to a brother's reaction to me crying I think she cried and then”

well it was all going on we were laughing and just like talking to each other like well everything was happening I've cried I've cried in front of her plenty of times not I'm I cry I cry I'm a cry I'm a Pisces I'm a little fish yeah dude that that makes sense you know all my all my closest male friends are Pisces really what are you I'm a I'm a Virgo that's my mom is Virgo I'm a Virgo but I don't really identify I'm on the cost I'm pretty yeah I'm pretty you're like you do have

a very very what when's your birthday six in terms of I've ever had like a person on here that's an expert in all that that's really yeah I didn't as well as you expect Johnny Nick was a couple of weeks ago and did that person make you feel like it's actual kind of scientific fact because I'm all you know whenever anyone brings up sign or anything I want to be like what the f*** are we talking like it's some kind of sequential but then there are so many times where it seems spot on did that

you know what's the one you got what's his I'm I'm kind of like you so I have an understanding

“of like Eastern astrology which is very deeply scientific the number of astrologers that available”

not exist and now like it's hard but it does exist and I've had people tell me crazy things like

predict they predicted like how many kids they would have and the first name of their partner and

all that kind of stuff and then you have what we have today where you have horoscopes which of course the daily horoscopy really is like kind of made up and so it's kind of finding that balance her take was there's lots of truth to it it's all based on the planets and how they align there's lots of ways of checking the system and making sure that it's valuable insight but the amount of people that are actually doing that today are very little so it's almost like there's a lot of

might's not enough real MCs maybe that kind of the hotel lay the amount of people that seem to operate off of that having so much consequence bloom like I feel like I'm on an island as the only guy who's like this isn't real yeah I've just put a weird pattern that all my best male friends are born in March yeah I was just a stream so I saw some born in March yeah well we haven't had enough time yet but I'm looking forward to it but seriously my best one

grown up was 14th March my best friend who's my best man at the wedding 16th March I'm 15th my closest friend in LA is 18th March wow it's just it's crazy and I'm 8th of March same as my sister I'm really good friend and 8th of March yeah do Pisces and Virgos I swear I assume so so many yeah I know Pisces and cancers really are that's the

“Salinas cancer thanks we got to talk to that well yeah maybe you should have them on the show”

we should all right what I wanted to do is I wanted to play a game that we create for you so your show is called Friends Keep Secret yeah we came on with friends don't keep secret really create you know but we played a couple's game with Benny so we thought we'd play a couple's game with with you guys fun I love games I'm gonna give you one of these we did this from Benny and Selena there we go this is all about Kristen first so the way this work is the

players will write down their partners potential answers to questions before comparing answers so this is all about Kristen we're both going to guess we're all going to guess what hopefully Kristen writes down okay and then we're going to see and then we're going to do each of you and you write down your own right now what we think Kristen is writing correct correct

if Kristen could change one thing about Dave what would it be I always had a fear of

playing this type of call out what I guess I just feel bad about like do I not know anything about the people that I'm so close to but I am confident in your answer I feel like you know this is also fun like it's not like I literally say it out loud all the time so my answer to the question is if Kristen could change one thing about Dave what would it be Kristen please reveal you answer read it that he likes wine what I don't like wine no the one thing I would change

would be that he liked to drink wine you don't like change it I don't think you understood hold on shouldn't she be no if Kristen could change one thing about Dave what would it be she would change that you would like wine that you wouldn't change you that I don't like wine correct correct so what did you write I thought this was definitely answer how I chew and smack my lips when I eat

“oh mine was that going on dates are being more fun what I think that they're all I was”

certain she was going to put that I thought you I was 100% sure you were going to say I mean I literally say that all the time I say I wish you drink wine I mean wine is kind of in the same world of the being fine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the reason I didn't I don't write this did you think about that no but you're also really good about not getting annoyed when I get annoyed with you about that but were you thinking about mine a little too why guess you were I figured

yours would be that yeah I knew what he was going to write right my mom has been complaining about the way that I smack my lips my whole life well you have a little bit of a problem yeah okay what's

alright okay so the next one is what's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on

that drives Dave crazy actually I'll just keep mine there's there's two there's two that I actually know okay so the question was what's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy Kristen please reveal your answer okay I have two the second one that I'm about to say I know he'll get mad about so you don't have to say it okay okay well I want I like to start the pilot one okay one working less two his I would say putting music

no oh no Benny's on my side yeah I'm undo said well I'm something more coming off nicer while texting oh yeah I forgot about that I wrote that I can be two hands on right no I love that wait look this is nice this is good feedback we love your hands on no I thought you were gonna I thought one of you guys was gonna say are we bad at this game no we're learning new things about our about each other that we

you're that people don't like you actually they love it yeah that's nice check yeah

I love you much yeah alright when was the last time Kristen admitted that she was wrong what makes you think I'm ever wrong no she she it's there's too much wavering to know because she'll go up and down about the right and run depends on what mood I'm in I would say

“I would say I think I can't remember I'm just gonna have a little do you know something”

the last you can give a time frame yeah yeah last month 10 years ago they're gonna 12 years ago 12 months ago I mean I don't know if I'm actually I'm trying to think I'm so in and frequently wrong I love it I really it's hard to catch me I like the thinking going on this is good she's wrong but it was the last time she goes Benie you know what I'm wrong I admit it well we filmed it was a time that we filmed something oh only if she's caught in the act on the

like only if I see the footed yeah oh yeah that is that is I know yeah yeah it's just as specific yeah it's just as specific yeah yeah there's a footed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you don't know if I'm wrong

I have to see the footed you saw the footage basically you don't even need to it doesn't matter

I don't I'm free it doesn't it's too much new on basically they got in an argument that Kristen was claiming that Benie kind of said something brought something up to get under her skin right and Benie was like you're the one who brought this thing up in the first place and she was like you know I wasn't and then we went into the control room and we said play us back the or how we even got here and then we watched the footage as we're filming the thing and Kristen did

actually brought up yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I brought it up but you know no but I get her high I get her high okay next we did all right we're gonna switch to Dave now she's all about Dave Bradham Potter who does Dave trust most for honest feedback not just in the group in the world I know exactly what you're doing

“well I think I know what your thought what is going through the cramsy oh yeah but to me the answer is”

it's actually pretty simple the answer is answers all right so the question was who does Dave

trust most for honest feedback Dave please reveal Benie and Kristen is the answer to that question now I know they both probably think Jack and Henry no oh I said what did you write I said me and Kristen and then I said friends from home but I was thinking of the joiner situation but it wasn't it was just that he was right so yeah both of them like look Benie from music I I know song whatever come out without having him here at and

analyze it critique hit say it's where the point out whatever flaws could exist Kristen's the exact same thing for like TV and film like any script or thing like I I really trust both of their instincts what did you write I wrote his mom or me or Jeff Shaffer or Benie

“my mom told me not to be a rapper she said so okay so but I think yeah”

he won the list you just those two no question I love the show I mean both of you not narcissists he didn't write themselves right yeah oh you yeah that's good I just knew the answer yeah okay what's our next all right so if you called Dave because you ran someone over would he help you bury the body would he call the cops or would he tell you to call the cops postbrowns reactions Mary's body call the cops

thought is it it's dates for wait you know you're saying oh I kill I ran some yeah yeah you ran someone over wait yeah yeah and then you call these guys and I'm saying would you tell them to wait wait I can be like one of them yeah yeah sorry so if you call it sorry if yes my bad thank you so much for correcting me I was wrong let this be in my statement I had made it wrong if you ran someone over and you called Dave what's he telling what

happened would he help you bury the body would he call the cops himself or would he tell you to disappear disappear as a new one yeah I'm adding that I'm changing what if I have the opportunity to change it yeah but is it our fault though or was it accident it's an accident obviously you didn't do on purpose what would Dave tell you to do this is this is a test of Dave's character yeah I don't I like framing it that way yeah I feel like I I know I feel like I have the black

state but I would disappear they would tell you you tell them to disappear I never want to see

you again wow I was kidding about the second sentence but just appear I disappear get out of here

“go get I said he would analyze all the facts that that's what I would do that's a great”

awesome that's like oh this question what did you I said he would tell you it was also to call the cops I think at the end I think you would have to analyze all the facts of him yeah I told about this there's this is the first question we've really had to done your green I definitely wouldn't bury the bot like I think I would talk I can't I can't I can't wrap up in criminal activity like that but I know what I call the cops like like behind

their back every I think I would try to convince that person why the thing to do is just call the cops and I think you'd have to analyze all the facts or disappear yeah yeah you would do

the right thing ultimately yes but here's what I'm not willing to write the area body for you

or anyone I am willing to perhaps hear of something and just pretend that I never heard of it yeah that's that's changed the subject yeah yeah which has the subject he does he would have a lot of OCD around that subject all right all right okay we'll do we do Benny we'll do Benny a couple of questions and Benny get stuff a day what something Benny pretends doesn't bother him but actually does he doesn't really have a pretend yes he does okay I don't okay

I'm trying to be I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to I can have to Kristin could get this right what is it or do I do mine first yes Benny reveal putting things in my fridge in correctly I was gonna say that I was gonna say that I don't think you pretend that that doesn't I do for anyone else except Kristin I was gonna say it but I'm like you're so overtly

“that's why you didn't let me put your stuff in the fridge today no no no I didn't put it”

I just wanted to be taken out a little bit right if he puts out something musically that has the potential to go number one and it doesn't go number one he'll say to everyone else I'm not bothered by not going number one but I think it bothers him to not go number one go number two if number one is a you know certain songs they have no chance certain albums I have a chance so not going number one they're saying if it's achievable

you're saying if it's a cheat if like if I'm gonna go like if I'm going to go 60 doesn't matter but if I'm gonna go number two why if you don't have the expectation that a number one is within reach and you go three or two or ten I can relate you're annoyed which I will tell you I'm gonna die on chance and then my other thing is Benny's favorite line as of this year is I

don't care about anything I've never heard Benny say anything more than I don't care about you

about anything and I think oftentimes that whole say that when we're talking about something that we both care about and if it seems like I want something that he doesn't want yeah he will say I don't care about anything but I know he cares he just wants to stop talking about it yeah yeah okay and then all ants are the more good yeah go and grizzly mine is not sticking with the plan like with a friend or the plan which is kind of in relation to like yeah I think I don't care

about anything if you I think if you if you start to feel the loss of control instead of that Benny will just be like I don't care about anything doesn't matter yeah it's going Benny

“you have to defend yourself this thing I don't feel I don't I don't even understand it really”

but I don't but what do you mean it's not sticking with the plan what more do you need to understand I don't understand which parts that I don't care about anything is like this to me when I'm having a conversation with someone I'll just use Dave as the example when I'm talking to someone and like usually pretty quickly into a conversation I can figure out whether this person is going to be like even receptive to like the information that I'm

saying or whether I think that they're they have like something made up in their mind and like there's such a my new chance of me changing it and then I say in my head I say well is this ever going to change is it that important if it doesn't and then just to nip it in the butt I'll be like I don't really care about okay and then that's my thing with the number one thing it used to be very true to me that used to be so true to me I was fixated on getting the number

on it any cost like even if it was number 40 like I was like I like had to I used to be when I was young I used to really really care so much that I felt like I wasn't even enjoying the things

like I'd have like a number one billboard record and then I'd be not even like celebrating I'd be like yeah that's cool and then like move on to the next thing and I won't even think about it and I feel like I feel like that was so true to me for so many years of my life and honestly until pretty recently until probably like four years ago and then it was really solidified honestly with Selena because I felt like I won I won it and I already did I already know that like I solidified what I

wanted to do and it was like the first time in my life where I didn't care that doesn't mean that

“if it is in sight I'm gonna do everything in my physical power to try to do the best thing I can”

because that's just the type of person I am I love the competition I love striving for the greatest but I doesn't have the same importance that it did have on me for so long it used to have me in like a chokehold and then like I felt like I was finally freed of that like in the last like four or five years and it was like so free but I understand both sides I completely do I understand like I used to be the guy looking every week at the chart seeing if we were getting close and I was

so I put so much importance on it and I don't even know why I did because I didn't even care when I got it like but I think I did care but I was so fixated on getting the net I probably just relieved when you got yeah yeah I think I was probably just relieved and it was like such a rat race and I'm so happy to be free of it but I do also understand that side of me when I was so into because I'm like yeah that's cool to do that but it is also cool to be like totally free of it

and I think the healthy medium is probably somewhere in the middle yeah well thank you guys

“think of a plane that started off some really like the skin intense conversations we can do a”

few more or I can take you to our ending three questions I'd like to do a few more okay let's do a fun riding on the water you guys can't solve your plans after I'm staying all right okay these are more fun ones who is most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse now you get to free for all right on anyone we have to be out of the three of us yes three two one reveal oh why did everyone tell you the same best and why didn't I just have more skill like

on the last one yeah that's pretty close to one I just meant physically or stronger than women what physically alright but why would that have to come in it's just me too I'm gone I thought it was like going by like resourcefulness well then I definitely would win because I feel like I can strategically Kristen's pretty athletic too yeah no I just mean oh yeah yeah I don't know my instinct was to send me and not me I'm gonna

11 rate it each other on different things okay what's the next all right the next question is who takes the longest to reply to text you're pretty responsive I mean response to every

oh Kristen no Kristen so good oh she Christmas terror white I live in I thought you always made fun of me

I actually respond actually I think Kristen's worse than you because both of them the she responded Kristen has never texted me since we met that that says a lot like you're responding to only me and she responds to me relatively timely Benny will respond to and she doesn't respond to anyone else ever no it that's not true let me say this I mean I do I did I do have a little bit of anxiety with texting yeah so I and I don't like to ever

feel like I have to do like I don't wake up in the morning and read my text like I think that's where I am going wrong and now I have like I think 1600 on red text messages it's gonna be it's gonna be a lot more dms and well I don't look at my dms I've never looked at dms she's not public never now but I don't even look at my friends that kind of day has still not gonna be

“public no I don't think you should I like Benny Benny responds to every text like no matter”

- Yes, agree, it's just, there's like a 72 hour back. - Yeah, and he does it, you know he's doing it in the morning, and it will like, sometimes he'll respond to like, a text that doesn't even make sense anymore, and you'll just get like, ha ha ha ha.

- And I'll respond to like a group chat, like two days later, and it's so not relevant anymore. (laughing)

- But as everyone's moved on, he's just basically,

- He's still catching up. - Yeah, he's catching up. - I text and spurts, like if I'm like, paying attention to my phone, I'll have a, I'll be there. - Christian, like, you know, her parents would be like, "Hey, can you think you could tell Christian to respond to?"

- I got a text on the way here from my mom that was saying, "Hey, could you read the family text "and please respond?" - No way. - And I thought, "I am in the car."

- She's the worst at text, she really is.

- It's hard. - Yeah, it's the same.

“- My phone's a beeper, it's just for emergency.”

- I'll respond instantly with way too much,

with too much. - I appreciate it, but because then I feel like there's text you to the text, and like we can actually get someone. - I'll text you to so you know that I'm capable.

- I'm waiting for that text. I've been texting with these guys for like, year and a half now. - Yeah, I'm okay. - Okay, next one.

Who would accidentally start a cult? - Go for it. - Reveal. - Oh, me, you put me in there. - I'm not one of the people.

- I'm not a cult. - I like, I'm not. - No, I was trying to think, we wouldn't be, you have more of like the soothing thing, like your, your message could like,

read like being like a drink, whoa, like no one wants to join our cult. - The reason I said Kristen, I only said Kristen because- - We don't, I could definitely be like a cult.

- Kristen, everyone likes Kristen and Kristen loves everyone she meets and thinks she's gonna be the best friend. - That is true. - So it's like so many people

that she runs into, she could end up thinking that they're gonna be close. And then all of a sudden there's like, you know, a cult somehow. I don't know.

- Yeah, okay. - I just dialed your hair to be like us today. - Yeah, I was like,

it's very spies, always like that.

- Yeah, you guys all have like a smaller one. - It's different. - It's the first time we've had three people with Kylie Hale on this. - Yeah, the second time.

- You got a lot of the stats. - Did they give you all these stuff? - I'm making 'em up. - I'm making 'em up 'cause I got a lot of sounds that three.

- Yeah. - You guys do have the same hair style. - So we have like variations of, - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - But it's like, I feel like that's,

it's like evolution of hair is like me to Dave to better be like that. - Yeah, yeah. - It's like evolution. - Yeah, it's evolution, what do you guys say?

- Evolution. - But we, I like evolution. - Hallelujah. - Hallelujah, man. - Yeah.

- Hallelujah, man. - Oh, you called aluminum? - Yeah, you, man. - Hallelujah, man. - There's another few words.

One word that you, I can't think of it now. - But the food, the food, what do you call it? - Of course, yeah. - Oh, yeah, no. - I wish you, I wish you.

- I wish you. - I can't remember if you say it. - Or it's different? - No, it's like. - People say they say, so in America, you would say like,

his name is Dave, but like if we were British, we would say he's called Dave. - How do you say innovative? - I like that. - That's right.

- That's what you say. - That's what you say. - I didn't think about it now. - So here it is. - In nonchalant, you said funny too.

- I don't think you say nonchalant. - No, he said nonchalant. - Oh, no, he said it said something different. - I said, you want me to be less chalant. - Yeah, I should have.

- Wow, I like chalant. - I like chalant. - Yeah, yeah. - Chalant. - Okay, all right, these are the last three

“because these that you have to write for these anymore.”

These were questions given by, so before the show, you can get those white boards. - There you are. - I'll sign them in. - No, no, we're on a key.

- We gotta wrap this up. - I asked you each for a question. You'd like me to ask the other two people in the room. - Oh yeah, that's hard. - So these are the honest questions you gave

will start with Benny. So Benny's question to both of you and the answer has to be in one sentence. I'll maybe let you expand. The question from Benny is,

how do you separate work from your relationship? If you're disagreeing in work, does it spill over into personal and vice versa? - I would say that we, well, I think you've been a part of it.

Dave and I are real, it's just like the one thing that's great about our relationship. And now I feel similarly with Benny is that we can, we can like have our humans and we can get upset with each other

and then like instantly kind of once we feel like we've turned over the stones in the argument

or like gotten to a place, it's never carried over.

Like we've never been, have we ever been mad? More than a day, even if a day. I don't even think we've ever been mad for a full day. - I've never been mad for a full day. - Oh, you guys, yeah.

- Are you asking about us too? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, sorry.

- It's going to keep you going for it. - Take it away.

“- I think he asked the question because we work”

so like beyond even just our multimedia creation. Any script she writes, a part of that with her, any script I write, she's a part of that with me. So it's really, I mean, she's not a part of my musical process so that's my, I get separation there

because she likes more poppy stuff that I didn't just like, - No, that's the truth. - No, she doesn't like that. - No, she's the opposite. She likes less poppy.

- Once I gave you a bunch of thought. - She doesn't like to show me his music. - I hate showing her my music. - But let me do it. - She doesn't listen to lyrics.

- Yeah. - So I could show her recording of me where the verses are, how still we know how, and she would like that just as much as me like doing really clever lyrics.

- Wow. - So, no. - He also, we tried, he tried to show me his music once but it was so, I had to, he literally like pulled up the chair directly in front of the computer.

It was blasting, the speakers were blasting and I wasn't allowed to move and I just, it had to be under his, I hate the way he says, the experience. - Yeah.

- 'Cause you have to, I tell him, I'm not sitting there, don't show me the needs of yours.

- But what we don't like about this. (laughing) - That's not a tick question. - That's not it. - Answer Benny's original question.

How do we separate?

I mean, we, I selfishly don't always feel the need to

because when we're talking about work or whatever we're working on, I find it so inspiring and fun and like I'm just like, to me, there's like nothing more fun to talk about now. So I look at it as like, this is great.

I get to have fun with my best friend and we're being productive at the same time. Now, you know, sometimes I feel like you know, I remember when I originally started dating Kristen and I learned that she kind of has the same exact

interest in passions professionally as I do. I did have the thought, oh man. I'm like, what I would be better off marrying someone who was like an English teacher and there was like complete separation of church and state.

But now seeing the opposite, I'm so happy that we get to connect over the thing.

“But it's like, you know, I think there's just such a joy”

to me when I get to talk about the things I care the most about in life, which unfortunately is work. Now, I'm not working like some corporate drug or a job. I'm working on like the self expression of my soul.

So it's different to be like, oh, there's no separate. I'm not like working in an accounting firm. Like I'm talking about, you know, how to tell these stories that I feel born to tell. And she's, it's fun.

Like we're talking about fun, great of shit. But you've helped me become, I would say, like you've given me more confidence professionally. The good thing about us working together is you've given, like, I feel like over the few years

that we've kind of like really co-mashed our professional lives, I kind of come from a place of like more self-doubt and like insecurity. And he's really helps me get like the kind of confidence to even be doing this and writing and stuff.

I feel like it's been really, I'm so thankful that you're like a good mentor and a husband. - Great answer, guys, beautiful, really nice, that felt good. But we should, we should go on more dates without talking about the task that they have.

- Yeah. - That's the goal. I think sometimes I'll be like, especially with the anxiety that I've had, which I'm on a new path forward and I'm a new person.

And I no longer create the self-inflicted torture of like anxiety about the podcast in particular, but there was a period where I was like, we have to stop talking about work all the time 'cause I can't like mentally break away from it.

And it was, I wasn't, but now you can sign me up. - What was the time where I was like, I don't want to talk about this right now and you kept talking or you were home, doesn't matter because I was about to like do something

with music where I just had to be in like the state of mind that and I was in such a good mood. I had no anxiety about anything with like the podcast or whatever you want to call it. And I said, I don't want to talk about it right now.

And she just wanted to talk about it. - Yeah, well, this is an interesting, I did start going to therapy

“because I was like, it's important that he can't always be”

the like, I have such a tendency when I have anxiety to like, for me to get over my anxiety, I have to say every thought that I have, which it used to be okay. I'm an I'm sure it's exhausting for him,

but it used to not be so related to what he was doing. So therapy has been helpful because instead of like taking him on, which he's still very supportive, but like I don't have to,

like I felt like I was like bringing him down. So the therapy now is a lot easier for me to like just mentally spiral and then I'm not putting it on you. So we've learned a little,

we've kind of like started to create some boundaries. - And I learned no now not to get her worked up when she's in bed. I don't know, not to, like if I sometimes I come in and I come up with an idea of like, we should do this,

that and she's, and she's very resilient. - She needs to sleep. - Yeah, well no, I just would get like raved up and excited. - Yeah, yeah.

- Me and my wife were like, so like, I don't want to come to bed and once a chat and talk and like, yeah. And she does not want to. - Yeah.

- And she's like, first thing in the morning,

once a chat and talk and I'm like, yeah, I need to like, gear up slowly. So I get that. - Yeah. - That's beautiful, thank you. - We need to thought, I have to thought in morning now.

- So this was Kristen's question for Benny and Dave. Do you guys talk about me when I leave the room? (both laughing) - You have to answer honestly. - Not really, no.

- Cool. - Not really. - This was a hard thing to, hard question I could only. - It's a good question though.

“- The only time I remember that is at New Year's,”

when I was like, what are you guys talking about? And then Dave said I'm not at Liberty to tell you. And then he said, he said, and he was just, and then I was like, all right. And then we just started talking about something else.

And then when you came over, you were like, are you talking about me and we weren't talking about you. - It's a question I ask a lot. This paranoia that as soon as I leave the room. But I know that it's mostly more of a joke.

- I know you guys are.

- Yeah, no, we never really talked about that.

- No. - We're positive. - No, we're positive. - Who do you guys say positive? - It's been so hard to talk about.

- Like what? - It's been so long. - He just said no. - No. - Yeah, I've said, like, I've said like, I was so blown away by how,

well, Kristen's done. Like I remember we talked about that before. - So you guys told me that we talked about you the way, I don't know, we just talked about there, why is it like we're not like talking about you professionally

that often.

- Yeah, there's never, and there's never,

“do you guys talk about how you never talk about this fear?”

- Dave's never talked, no, I don't know. - I live in, I always am like, - Think about being like, - Are they all talking about that? - You guys are talking about me?

No, and if you guys are talking about that, - Oh, 10, no. - Either there's a reason or like, they're upset with something or I don't care. - Yeah, I think I care too much what people think.

So I'm always like, even though it's like kind of half-joking, I will, I thought everybody felt this way. - Be like, a lot of people do feel this way. - Yeah, like, as soon as I leave, I'll be like, I wonder, even if it's not bad.

I just wonder if they're being like, yeah, she was talked a lot that time or she was said that really a bad question. - She has so much self-doubt and circular thoughts of negativity

that our brains are like on the top. - I think so much, I think so much of that is women's conditioning and society, and women in society, like, that's my take on. - I was going to say that, I was going to say that.

- And 80D. - No, I mean, seriously, I'm not deadly seriously. I mean, when I took all my girlfriends, they all feel the same way then. I took my, if you're my friends, they all feel that way.

- Yeah. - Like, that's, you know, you can't then ignore it.

“- And I think it's been a little bit more,”

it's been more exaggerated just because of the, like, the uncertainty about all of this being public. I feel like I live, - Your hair's in your mouth, I'm sorry. I can't see it from there, I don't see it either.

- It's just what I said. - I appreciate it, I do do it. - I tell him to do this thing, thank you. - Yeah, it's true, it's true. - Yeah, it's been exacerbated

because you're dealing, me and Benny are also, even though we asked for a man, we're like, you've been public for so long. - Yeah. - But we're like the two, no one believes in themselves more than me and Benny.

Like, we don't find it like so. It's like that compared to self-doubt, it makes it feel even more of a, yeah. - But I'm doing a lot better 'cause I realized that I realized

that so much of myself doubt is like my default narrator, like in my head and I feel like this podcast will help me, I don't know, I could just crumble.

- No. - You guys might never see me again,

not in a bad way. - You're so aware, I think, you know, I think part of it is just as hard as you are in yourself, you don't give yourself enough credit as well, but like you're so aware of what's going on in your mind,

I think, I think if you're not aware, that's when it's really great. - I agree. - Yeah, I like to hear that. - Yeah, you're very strong. - It's doing okay. - Yeah, all right, final question.

This was Dave's question. I saved what I believed to be the best for last. - Thank you, Dr. - This is Dave's question. So Dave's question to Kristen and Benny is, if I died, how often would you guys hang out

or see each other? - Wow. - I feel like if you die, that'd be so heartbreaking and we'd be sharing, we'd be like experiencing similar pain.

Well, me more, but I can't speak on behalf of Benny, maybe I'd be out on our own. Of frequently, I don't know, like as much as we could. But check first, obviously, I would edit all the things to I know how you would like them,

and I'd find a way to get the right to make sure. - Yeah, first I was talking about the show. Then I'd edit, yeah, I'd make sure to get the right features and we've spoken enough of that. I'd be able to at least, there's like 15 songs,

I could cobble together, just something great, and I would do that, and I would make sure not. - But would you hang out with me? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, to make something like truly like, yeah, yeah.

- You do it hanging out with me, isn't that the question? - No, no, no, no, this was so funny. - Yeah, what she'd be like, she'd be involved. - This is what she'd be involved. - Would you involve her in the album?

- Really, he's not. - No, no, no, no, no, but I would involve her and I would roll out. - No, no, I didn't involve her. - But I still be invited to like the dinner parties.

- Yeah, I think I would hang out with you. I think you would, well, I'd like you to feel like my, my Dave role, like I feel like you'd, I feel like I'd be calling you like every day.

“- It would be so, you can't, you have to,”

we have to protect you at all. - Or, or would you guys be so reminded of me when you saw a chair that you'd actually have

to never see each other ever again?

- No, no, no, no, we'd see each other all the time. - If I died, would you guys just replace me? - No, what? (laughing) - In the show.

- No, it'd just be a two person show. - Right, no, it'd be done. - Yeah. - Or would we keep, I don't know, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be that interested anymore.

- I'm glad you got all the footage though. - No one's dying, I hate talking about this, even though I didn't. - I know. - No one's dying.

- We've got footage again, everyone needs faction. - Yeah. - You guys, I mean, just spending time with you makes me just love the show even more.

truly, you guys trusting me, giving me this opportunity

“to do this with you has been a highlight”

of my professional career, like, to work with all three of you. Because it's very rare that when you're like, you know, when I started my podcast seven years ago,

I never thought I'd be helping, create something amazing

with the vision of all three of you. And I am full, so I'm lucky, unfortunately. So thank you for the gift, thank you for the blessing. - Thank you for all of you.

“- Thank you for the opportunity, just the same way.”

- We love each other. - You are a mentor. - You are a guru. - No, definitely.

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're like,

you're like, the, you're so good to bounce all this stuff off. I feel like you've already laid the ground. We're just trying that. - I don't think it's that. You guys out of vision, you know what you're building.

“I think it's been, it's been fun getting the opportunity”

to be a part of it.

- That's how I feel about it.

So thank you for letting me be part of your crazy. - Thank you, vision. - Thank you for hearing our desires and not scoffing at them and doing your best to make it all happen. - Yeah, absolutely.

- Friends, keep secret. - It's excited. - On three. - Yeah, friends, on three. - On three.

- On three. - Yeah, on four, friends, on three. - Friends, on purpose, on three. - One, two, three, friends, on purpose. - If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode

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