146. LIB S10 Eps. 1-6 Reactions + Men Using ChatGPT

- Welcome to another episode of Out of the Pods. - Happy Wednesday Pods, Besties.

“What a beautiful day in Chicago, by the way.”

I wish you guys can experience this because it's, what did they call it? It's what a weather. (laughs) It's what a weather.

It has been so, so nice outside. I feel like a whole new person. I'm like, you know what, all my problems that I had, they'll just disappear because it was 60 degrees in Chicago. - It is so, so nice.

I know people who live in warmer climates don't understand this, but when you don't have

to wear your park anymore, it's an amazing feeling.

Even though I love wearing a parka, 'cause you could wear anything under a parka, like you could wear pajamas and stuff, but when I'm able to just wear a cardigan out, it's really nice.

It's so nice, like a little tiny, nice light jacket. Yeah, say less. And the amount of people that were on the lake front was insane. It was like Chicago was thawing,

and it was good vibes all around. You were on the lake front this morning? No, I just saw it on TikTok. (laughs) That's one way.

No, I literally, I think about it often because we're so far away from the lake. It's probably like a 45 minute walk. It is. And I wanna be closer to the lake

because I see people out on it all the time and they're like, oh, just casual this morning and I just can't get there. I used to live in an apartment by the lake front.

Like my view was of the lake and I could just step out of my apartment building and just cross the street. And I was on Chicago's lake front trail. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me tell you, I only went on at twice. (laughs) I used to go on it all the time. 'Cause it gets busy.

“It gets, like I think the two times I went on it,”

I was like almost hit by bikers. Oh, I often change some of my personality traits based on the man that I date. And I love that for you. You know, sometimes like the,

and this X of mine particularly loved being very, very active and I like to be active but not in the way that he likes to be active. Yeah.

And so he would always be like,

oh, honey, it's Saturday morning. We got to go on a bike ride. I literally bought a bike. I used to bike. We went to a bike store.

I bought a used bike and every Saturday morning we would go on a bike ride and get coffee. A man who owns a bike is in my man. You know what I'm saying? We weren't meant to be together.

The moment I find out you have a bike, you ride your bike. I was like, listen, we're two different people. I already know it's not gonna work out. No, especially because I had so much anxiety.

Just driving that on the street. He would make me ride it, drive it, ride it. What are driving it, riding it, whatever. You're driving a bike technically. You're driving this.

In that case, I'm not a good driver. Driving the handlebars, baby. I will say what I like about biking is, I can go years without biking. I go like seven years without biking.

And then all of a sudden I'm on a bike for whatever reason. I don't know. I could just find myself on a bike. And you pick up on it so quick.

Like that, the skill set of riding a bike never leaves you.

Yes, Natalie, that's why the phrase, it's like riding a bike exists. 'Cause it's, it's like you get it. You just know how to ride a bike every time. Oh, it's so insane that I know a phrase that you don't know.

I've heard the phrase, but I've never put two and two together. People, when they're like, it's like riding a bike, I just, I assume what they're saying is like, it's gonna be easy. It's gonna be like, whatever.

Yeah, it's like, it's like, I know what you're doing. Like, and I was like, riding a bike isn't hard. But no, this man literally would take me every Saturday morning and for 15 minutes I would have anxiety from getting to the apartment to the lakefront.

'Cause have you ever ridden a bike in the city on the street? On the street, so scary. That's a skill set I don't have. I had it and I lost it, thank goodness. I don't mean to change subjects real quiet.

Quack. (laughing) Quack, quack. (laughing)

“Every time we change subjects, that's what you do to it.”

Quack, quack. Time. What did I say? Why did I say that? I don't mean to change subjects so quack, so quack.

So quickly, I meant quickly, but I was up so late watching Love Is Blind Season 10. (laughing) Just for this podcast and listen, I turned on my Netflix, clicked on Love Is Blind Friday.

And then I watched episode one and even though I wanted to watch episode two afterward, my brain and soul and heart just wouldn't let me. They're like, no, so I had to catch up last night. I started the same episode four times.

And yes, you were texting me that. I literally couldn't get through after like the first 20 minutes. I just zoned out every single time and I'm like, what? What is going on?

I think it was Steven, the guy in episode one.

that I couldn't go on.

My body was like, you need a break.

It was bad juju all around. It just like makes people want to stop watching. But we'll talk about it later. There are like some thoughts I have. Oh my gosh, I have so many thoughts.

Yeah, yeah. Look at it into it, can I just tell you how much of a chaotic ass morning I've had today? Okay, you're not gonna lie. Obviously, we recorded deep deep department and I walk in

and she's like, I was like, oh my gosh, I was like, what is wrong with you? And I haven't had one of those days in a while. Like, usually I'm like, pretty zen now. Yeah, yeah.

But this you're mourning. When I typically walk into your apartment to record, you're like, I just meditated. I got fresh air and you're like, very zen. You have like, candles going.

And I'm like, oh, I feel so good 'cause my mornings are chaotic. But I'm like, wow, I love coming here. I feel so calm being with deep deep. But then I walked into your apartment this morning

“and I was like, is this a good time for me to be here?”

Like, what's going on? I almost was like, please don't come. You gotta know. You text me and you're like, can you come ten minutes late? I wanted to literally, after the morning I've had

just throw the nail. Because it's like, what is it, what is it like? Please come ten minutes after you typically do because I just need ten minutes to chill. And I was like, what's wrong?

Like, what's happening? And you go, nothing chaotic. Nothing to chaotic. But it is chaotic as hell. Anyways, I this morning realized that I left

my entire makeup bag at my parents' place. Oh, that's the worst. Because are you like me where your makeup bag has everything? I have like, all your makeup, everything. Yeah, yeah.

Down to every single brush I use to all of the key things that I love because I don't really do much makeup to my face, but when I do use it, like, I need it. Like, I can't use anything else. I can't function.

Thank you. Oh my God, I was struggling so hard. I had to put my foundation on today with my hand. Where did you get the foundation? OK, so beautiful thinking from me.

I think of from me.

I always have two foundations.

One is for my darker self because I tan really easily. And one is for, like, the lighter. And thankfully, I put the tan one with me because of Thailand, those tan. So I've been using the tan last.

So today, I used the lighter one, which was in your apartment. In my apartment. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Don't you love when you think you're past self? Yes. Like, when I, I don't know, like, I do something

where I, like, lay out my workout clothes. And then the next morning, I'm running late. I'm like, thank you to me for thinking ahead for doing something that has benefited me in the moment. Don't love that.

Absolutely. And also this morning, like, I broke a glass. It was just a whole chaotic morning. I forgot about that.

“And I'm like, what juju energy is in this apartment?”

It's Stephen. It's Stephen. I feel like he came out of your TV after episode one and left bad juju. No, that's why after we record today,

I'm literally going to sage the apartment. You're going to sage it. Of course I am. There's something weird happening. I haven't broken in glass in years.

There's just that's weird. Oh, yeah. That's weird energy. Don't love what kind of glasses you break like a kitchen glass? Yeah, just like my drinking glass.

You know what? I actually used to break kitchenware at like all the time. And now I have like the non-breakable cups and dishes and plates and bowls. Honestly, I should do the same thing because I'm a very,

very clumsy person. I know that we're blaming Stephen, but truly it is my own phone. Like pottery can exist in my apartment.

You'll never see me with a ceramic bowl.

Well, cancel your birthday present. It's good. Boom, gosh. I reject that right there and then I don't want a ceramic bowl for my birthday.

I'm just putting it out there.

“This is why I love you because you're the type of friend.”

We'll just say shit to your face and you're like, don't be offended. Like you know I love you, but like I'm not going to use this. Yeah, I feel like do you have a gift received? Because this is absolutely being returned.

You know, I do that though when I give gifts to my friends, I put a gift received it. No matter what it is. Like I bought my friend, a housewarming, what housewarming question.

What is with you in the quacks today? What I don't know. You got duck on the mind. (laughing) That made no sense and it wasn't even that funny

though. I was like so funny. It's funny because of the in UNDO. Huh? Got duck on the mind?

What's in UNDO? Oh, that's why I was laughing. Oh, I was laughing from that. I just thought it was funny because you know, like maybe there's a duck on my mind.

(laughing) Ew, black. No, I said it after I said it. I was like, oh, that's funny because of the in UNDO.

Okay, different way of links, but same one.

(laughing)

“Yeah, we were not the same way left on that one.”

Why can't I talk today? (laughing) It's so hard to get it, no, it's too bad. (laughing) Or Steven.

Let's wait in the Steven actually. Yeah, it's Steven. Steven, Steven, Steven. Do you forget the Scott here? Yeah, no, literally, I knew I should have watched you.

(laughing) This should have caused it. I should have fast forwarded his scenes, I knew it. I'm not gonna lie, I did fast forward through him. A lot of his scenes.

Well, he was only an episode one. Oh, that is. So episode one was like six hours long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you fast forward like all of that pretty much.

No, lightful. The moment he gave me the creeps, I should have fast forward it. Yeah, I knew that he would like lead bad due to you. (laughing)

Now we're gonna be stumbling on our words of this entire podcast. Yeah, no, literally. One last comment though,

“I do love that you keep all your makeup in a makeup bag”

'cause I could never be the type person

who has like my makeup all organized. Like you know how people have so much makeup that they like organize all their lipsticks together at six different types of foundations. And then they have like four different blushes

and they have them like neatly organized on their like desks, gore in their bathroom. I just like don't have that. Like everything fits in a nice little bag. Yeah, no, with the amount that I like travel

and like go back and forth, I need the bag. I do have the boxes and there's like makeup in the like the organizer. Yeah, I have the organizers under my sink. And that's what I went through today

to put stuff on and I just never touch it because I don't deviate from my normal routine. Like today I put on like this blush and it was like literally purple. It looks really good though, you're wearing it right now.

No, I had to take it off because it was purple. Oh yeah, then what are you wearing? I found a random different one. I thought it was blush but it was a highlighter and I'm just doing all sorts of crazy things.

We're different people then. I don't have like extra extra. Oh yeah. I've got one foundation, one lip liner, one type of mascara.

Like if I lose that, it's game over. Yeah, I gotta go to CVS.

“Well, you know, like I don't even buy this stuff”

like the brand send it to me so I keep them and then like sometimes I'll give him to my sister and my mom or some friends but like otherwise there's like some leftovers. So that's kind of what I used today.

Wow, good for you. The things that I get sent is more like IBS like like prevention pill. You're like, here's some tons lactate milk. What is that?

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single men specifically, where they're using chatchipit for their dating apps. They'll ask chatchipit like, how do I respond to this girl's picture? - Yeah.

- No thank you. And you know it's chatchipit because it has language and also you know that long dash, yes. - Yeah. - And just like the punctuation is just to perfect.

- I hate that. - Because listen, I know men don't know how to use commas correctly. - They don't know punctuation. - I was like listen, I've texted with so many men.

I literally went on 32 first days last year. Like those are 34. - These are 32. - Those are 32 men messaging me. And I was like none of them use punctuation correctly.

- No, and I'm actually kind of annoyed that so many people use chatchipit because, well, I mean, I use it. - But in dating, like, don't do that. - No, that's what I'm saying.

I was like chatchipit if a man sent me a very clear chatchipit message on a dating app. - It's like an immediate note. I was like, you couldn't, I would rather get like,

(laughs) I saw this TikTok that a woman posted and she got engaged recently. I don't know her.

“It was just like a viral TikTok that showed up on my feed.”

And the first image in this TikTok

is the first hinge message that her now fiance set her. And then the second image is their engagement photo. And, you know, she, in the caption, she's talking about how like beautiful that first message was and how like,

she knew he was the one based on that first message. People in the comments are like, "Man, that message is from chatchipit. He asked chatchipit what he should send you. Are you kidding me?

It has all the harm up." (laughs) - The hallmark signs. (laughs) - As all the hallmark signs of a church.

(laughs) Steven's really getting in her heads. Truly. - Do I report this to the cops? Like, what do I do?

(laughs) - Meanwhile, he's in Ohio. - Oh, age, Ohio. (laughs) - Oh, when they did it, I was like,

what is happening? What is happening?

- I don't like school spirit.

- I mean, like, I don't mind it, but like, I would tell you all a university Chicago, we don't even have a football team. So I don't even know what that's like to have a chant like that.

- It's not the same, I went to a private school. So I didn't even know football. - And I was like, I don't even remember who our mascot is. (laughs)

- Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're the Bradley Braves, but what the fuck is a brave? - We're the ramblers. Oh, but our mascot is the wolf. - That's confusing.

- Yeah. - You're the ramblers, but your mascot is something different. - Mm-hmm. - Ramblers is very fitting for you.

- Why do you even know what a rambler is? I think it's a homeless person. - Oh, it's not. - Let me take it up, I'll actually confirm. - I just thought a rambler, like, who talks?

(laughs) - I'm looking at what is a rambler. What is a rambler, Leola? - Leola's current mascot is Lou Wolfe, but previously it was Beau Rambler, a hobo figure.

- Oh, hobo figure? - That's so rambler. Beau Rambler. - Or even talking about-- - Oh, we got here.

- The chatchipy team actually. - Oh, yeah. - People in the comments were like, "Man, this is a chatchipy team message." Like, your fiance did not create this on his own.

He asked chatchipy team, what do you say?

Like, don't pay attention to this first message a lot.

They're like, "I would be ashamed." - Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of tough because-- - Matter of it. - Shivering is lost.

- It is. It is.

“You have to use AI, not just copy and paste the damn thing,”

but you use it as, like, a guide. - You use it as, like, a thought starter. If I received a message from a guy on a dating app, and it clearly is from chatchipy team. Like, it's clear he copy and paste it.

This message from chatchipy team. He asked chatchipy team what he should say. That's embarrassing. Like, you couldn't even look at my profile. And like, you know, just say, like,

"Wow, you know, nice skyline." - Yeah. - Anything. - Anything. Yeah, I actually did get a chatchipy team message.

Can I read it to you? Like, it was very, very clear. Also in my profile, for my job, it says podcast. That's also podcast. (laughing)

I didn't wanna say, like, what I actually did for a podcast, which is, I guess talking here with you. - And this guy message me saying, I feel like dating you comes with a mic check in a theme song.

Careful. The chatchipy team dash. - Oh, yep. - I might become your favorite off-air conversation. I was like, "Sir, you didn't make that up yourself."

- Oh, no. - Your definitely. - Chatchipy team scanned my profile. - I agree with it that I've been her for a year. - I just don't like how men are using chatchipy team.

Like, you could have looked at my profile and think of one thing to say.

“Listen, I have a very like a diverse profile, okay?”

There's a lot of questions you could have about me, not only about the podcast, the fact I live in Chicago. (laughing) - Et cetera. - I don't think about it.

I am a woman of very few interest in passions. (laughing) Or are they just trying to like maximize the results? So they're just like copypasting things. They're like, you know what?

I don't have the time or energy or the effort to actually come up with something creative or personal. So I'm just gonna put it through chatchipy team and I'm gonna maximize my results. - Like, it's crazy.

I was like, how did you get the response? Like, what was your prompt to get the message and chatchipy team? Hey, so there's a girl in her careers that says podcast. So like, what can I say to open it up?

Like, how embarrassing. Or they're like taking a screenshot of it and being like, "Hey, give me something clever from this." That's a man I actually don't want. I was like, "I need someone who could think on their own."

Give me a compliment without asking chatchipy cheap because I know that if we start dating, all our texts would also have that dash. Like, he's asking, he's screenshotting our text messages, sending it to his chatchipy team.

Like, can you analyze this? The one thing I absolutely hate about chatchipy team is the fact that it has ruined dashes for me.

because it was my favorite thing.

- You did. - Yes, thank you.

“- I love you for saying that because you are”

of living proof as to the fact that I didn't use it. - But your dashes were different. You had the small dashes. - The small dashes? - Yeah.

- But even that. - But even the small dashes is. - You had the small dashes because the long ones, I feel like that only happens when you're on like a word doc like on your computer.

But I don't think it shows up in text messages unless you go try to actually find it on your keyboard. - And you can tell, there's just a tone to chatchipy team. You just know that they haven't written it. - And also like, it doesn't make sense to use that

as your as a tool for yourself. Because once you go on the date, your date is gonna know that you can't communicate or you're not witty. - Yeah.

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Here's you having high standards again. Like just let it go because we put out a real last week where we talk about how I went on 32 first dates and DDP's like, oh, I told everyone you went on 64. Comments were like not your the problem.

Okay, can I just, let me tell you the story about a date I went on. Tell me if I was the problem, okay? I'll just tell you the men that my acquaintances, my friends are setting me up with.

I went on a date last spring and I remember I was planning to wear healed boots, booties. On the state, the last minute, I switched to wearing strappy heels with my toes exposed because the weather I ended up being really nice that day.

And you don't get as many pedicures during the wintertime, right?

“Like you need to let your nails breathe.”

But like my toes are very well kept. Pain it or not, they're like, good looking toes. - Yeah. (laughs) - Slay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I go on the state and it's with a friend I met at an

affluence event, it was her husband's coworker. And so we sit at a bar for a date. So we're sitting next to each other and he looks down and he goes, oh, and I was like, oh, what?

And he goes, oh, do you know like not paint your toes? - He looks like that's me. - And then he goes, he goes, that's my one thing. I like when girls paint their toes. He said that to me.

I would, so guys, I'm not the problem. (laughs) I just get set up with really interesting men, okay? - Also it's just annoying because like normally your toes are very like paint.

- Yeah, like my toes are painted. - Yeah. - 80% of the time. - Regardless of your explanation or regardless of that, the fact that he even brought it up is what's like, just such a, yeah.

- Like that is so weird to see. - It was like a dark dark bar too. We were sitting at, it was Spiro. - Oh, yes, I know exactly what that is. - And so by the bar, it's like darker

when they have the lighting under like the bar. - Yeah.

“- But I was just like, how did you even notice that?”

Were you like fixated on my toes? - Yeah, maybe he's gonna be, oh yeah.

- Like he just looked down for like a second.

- Yeah, he looked down for a second, he was like, oh, not him being like, let me just, I just dropped me something real quick. - Yeah, let me take a little peek at the toes.

- And you know, I would have never, never expose my toes

if they didn't look good. Like I'm very like, yeah, if they were like, you know, uncapped. - I caught them in a while. - Yeah, like I would never, I would force myself

into the booties, but I was like, I got some really cute toes.

“I think they actually had a clear polish on them too.”

- Yeah, so they weren't like, just bare. - Yeah, no, no, no, no, this man's the problem. Let's face it, but also that friend. I was like, how dare you think this was a good match? - How dare you match me with a foot fetisher?

- I still, I was just like, whoa, what made you think this was a good match? And she goes, I didn't know, I didn't know. - I didn't know. - That's true because your friend only knows so much.

Like, your friend knows from like a friend perspective, not from a relationship perspective. - She's like, I barely knew that guy's, he's only my husband's coworker. I've only seen him at holiday parties,

or he's came over for drinks like a few times. - Yeah, yeah. - Wow, well, you know what, you dodged a bullet there. - I know.

- It's like, goodbye, you'll never see me

and my clear toes ever again. - Yeah, and I was really nice with ending the date. Like, I still sat there for an additional hour chatting with him. I was gonna give him another chance, I was like,

you know, women are too nice for those 32 dates. I would say like 25% I was the problem, but the rest listen, no. I just, at least you're putting yourself out there and that's more than a lot can say, like me,

I have not, because I just can't be bothered with a man right now. - You're like, I don't, I need to keep my beef, yeah. - And I just am not ready for that chaos. Like, look at my morning, it's already chaotic.

Look at love is blind, look at the season of love is blind. I feel like these successful women could do without these men. - Absolutely, it's always the women that outrank the men every single season. Like, I see comments, people being like,

Emma needs therapy and I was like, you know what?

“I think she was fine until she went on the show”

and had a deal with Stephen. - Everything that comes back to Stephen. - Yeah. - Actually, let's just get into it. Love is blind, season 10.

- Let's get into it. I was dying when I went to go play the episodes and they changed the look of the seasons. So now, instead of season one, two, three, four, it's like Chicago, Atlanta, like, it says the actual,

and then I like that a lot more. - I do too. - It looks so much better. And then you get to season 10 and it's just Ohio. - You know what I was thinking about it?

This is the first time they've done a full-ass state.

- Yeah. - Yeah. That means like not one place had good enough Canada. - They started in Columbus, they're like, nah, we need to expand the search and I can see why.

- I can see why. - I don't know, you know what? I think they shouldn't have even chosen Ohio. Though I will say it's not the worst season. So far, I feel like five out of 10.

So far, I feel like very neutral. I feel like the pod episodes were too long. I hate the fact that I got invested in people that I'm just not gonna stay on my screen again. And the drama didn't start until like episode five and six.

And that's where I was like, okay, I'm tuning in now, more so. I forwarded it through a lot of the pod scenes. So I did too. After episode one and after experiencing Stephen, I was like, I don't know if my heart can do this anymore.

- Stephen. - Stephen is the definition of a walking egg. I don't like using the word egg. Stephen's like a different breed of a human is how I see it. - She's not from this earth.

- Yeah. I don't know how to explain it, but he's just not from around here. If Stephen is from somewhere in this older system, it's definitely Pluto. - Definitely.

- Yeah, just so far away, cold, but he's definitely not of this earth. - No. - 'Cause when Emma was sharing like some of the most, I don't know, like, not traumatic experiences of her life

but like, I just think you're about to worry like, he's from Pluto, he's from Pluto. - That's our biggest insult that we can come up with by some President Obama went on a podcast and said aliens exist. - Oh, I saw that.

- And then I was like, Stephen. - Yeah. - On the other percent. - He's back down. - He's pretending to be human when Emma's like,

can we go deeper and he's like, well, let me talk about my first kiss. - It was so awkward and I guess what's like concerning is the fact that when he says, let's go deep, it's him talking about his sexual history. - Yeah.

“- It's like, oh, that's what you consider like an intimate conversation.”

- Well, he's probably an alien. He's like, this is, I think what humans are talking about. - And then they say they want to go deeper. - When he described how losing his virginity was like the notebook. I was like, you don't think that screams alien?

- That is a very weird comment to make. - Yeah. - Obviously, it's a lie because - No one's first to girl wants to get his notebook. - What about wait, what?

that's out of love, and it's like, we know Stephen, but he goes, you absolutely did not have a notebook experience. - No, he gets non-human. Like how they watch a bunch of movies to figure out

“how humans interact and what human life is like.”

You're telling me, he didn't, that's why he referenced the notebook. - I know. - That's all he knows about making love. - All I can say is I'm really, really glad that I'm caught onto that

and was like, no, please, never again.

- Oh, yeah, thank God. The petty person in me, was she went hard and she's like, you're all fucking loser. And no, truly. - No, I'm so glad she also said, like, you're giving me

the, especially when he called himself a sensitive sensei, that actually kind of, that really threw me off. Like he goes, you want sad by Stephen, you want a sensitive sensei, it was like, ooh, imagine how he flirts.

- Yeah, like what in the Star Wars are you talking about sensei? - What in the Star Wars, I don't know, I know it's not from Star Wars, it just like, that's what it reminds me of. And I'm like, I'm, no, it's from like Japanese culture. - I know, but like a sensei, just, I don't know,

I just brought me back to like life savers and it was a whole thing in my head, okay? But we're on the alien theme. - I know.

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hard on Emma, and I just wanted to put my two cents in there because you know, why not? Who's gonna stop me? Yeah, who's gonna stop us? But I just want to say like, even me, who hasn't gone

through all the things that Emma has gone through, I feel like I got so emotional during the pods because it just brings out different emotions in you that you didn't think that you would ever have.

Like I would never, ever in my life,

cry in front of anybody. Like I rarely even cry in front of my parents. Yeah, so to do that in a pod, I was like, oh my god, do you cry at all the time? Every day, I was like, what's wrong with that?

“But I think 'cause we were sleep deprived.”

Yes, so when you talk about something deep about yourself, it's hard not to cry when you're running on like three to four hours of sleep. That's so true. I cried a lot in the pods, too.

And it was a fire. Yeah, I was kidding, but you know how you're like, never, I'm like, yes, I am. Okay, I never cry. No, never cry.

I can't even remember the last time I cried. No, same. Yeah, actually, I'm like, wait, did I cry yesterday? Actually, did I cry this morning when my makeup wasn't here? I think maybe I cried like a week ago

because I had those, you know what those like, thoughts were like, what would people be thinking at my funeral? Oh my God, you know, you like, make up this scenario in your head? I think it's a very not normal thing, but like a thing that some people did.

Oh yeah, I haven't done that since I was like 26 though. Oh, you remember, you were called. Oh, I recall. You're like nine years ago. Yeah, yeah.

No, like I do this thing where I was like, okay, this is so bad to say. We're so off topic. But you just like, think about these scenarios that would most likely never happen.

And you make yourself sad, yes, all the time. The other day, I had like a traffic thing happen where traffic thing, yeah, well, like I was like merging onto 94 over here and it's like a pretty like busy area. And a car was just like reckless.

My life flashed before my eyes. I'm not even gonna lie to you. And then I sat there the rest of the car and I was like, what would people think if I died? There'd be so sad to be taken.

I mean, it's a long page at the funeral, I'm like, oh, well, that's like, I would, you would be crying. I would go to your casket if it was an open casket. I'd be like, wake up bitch. I'm Indian, I'm getting cremated, you know.

Well, moving on, I think you can get really emotional in the pods.

life journey and life story.

“And so I think the editors and the showrunners wanted to show that”

but because they showed it often in these episodes, people on social media are like, this is so annoying. Yeah, but I just don't understand the hate. It's like she's very unproblematic. Yeah, I think people are just like upset because she's like trauma dumping,

but she's actually not and you're right, it's editing. And Emma was so popular in the pods. She literally had three potential, you know, guys. Love it. Look at these aging girls go.

And so obviously she had to reiterate her story to all three of them. So to you, it sounds like she's being repetitive, but she's actually not. I agree, I totally agree with that. Yeah, I just, I don't really understand why people are like going after her. I really like her and I don't know, it's just like kind of weird.

I feel like there's always, I won't get into it,

but I do feel like sometimes there's like a double standard for Asian woman on reality TV, absolutely because I was so sad to see that my brown body Priyanka was not aired at all. Okay, well, I think we talked about this a few episodes ago. When we, you know, when love is wine season 10 was announced,

how I'd meet your friends with Priyanka. I heard through the great fine, like, she was involved with some drama in the pod. So I actually thought they were going to show it.

“Yeah, yeah, she, I think her only scene was where she was like,”

I got 2D in bed or something like that. She gets gasky and I was like, well, it is kind of really sad when that happens where people have a significant experience in the pods. Or like, they remember their pod experience and would love to see that on TV and nothing plays.

Like I think about when our season came out, there was a group chat with the broader cast. So like the 15 men, 15 women, it was all of us. And some of the men who didn't get engaged, remember they were having conversations being like,

oh, I wonder if they'll show this that we did or like, this scene that I was a part of like they were so excited. And then our season came out and they weren't shown at all. Or they had like one line or that were shown. And I think they were really disappointed.

Yeah, it's always really hurtful when you like think you have all these memories

in the pods and like it's kind of scrapped from the show. Yeah, especially because I think Priyanka made a video or something. And she was like, oh my god, you guys didn't get to see any of my outfits. And I was like, oh, because some people spend a lot of money on the outfits. Like we had a cast member who spent like $6,000.

Not in the main cast, but in the broader cast. And she wasn't shown none of it got air. Yeah, yeah. And she got like the most beautiful reveal dress. And I was like, for example, it's a dollar.

Yeah, from Paris. Yes, from Paris. Yes, yes. And she was really sad that it didn't get air. Which I understand that when Priyanka said the whole outfit thing.

I was like, give us a fashion show. I should have commented that actually meanwhile, we were a little like, target. Oh, yeah, no, literally forever, 21. Actually, a lot of my tops were forever 21. No, I was wearing like a lot of old navy.

Yeah, when the girl on her cast was like, I spent $6,000 on outfits. I was like, oh, I was like, I was literally like, we lived two very different lives. Someone else like brought their like Louis Vuitton's on set. And I was like, meanwhile, me and my target sandals. Same.

“I was like, curl, you know, when do you like curl of your toes?”

Like trying to hide your feet? I was like, well, I literally ordered to do that. So many things also on Amazon because I was like, uh, I need something to just match. Yeah, no, it was. I brought like those from friends and things like that.

Yeah. And I think at that point too, going into the show, I had zero things designer. Yeah, I need nothing else. I also wouldn't bring it on set. Yeah, that's fine.

I don't think I would. Yeah.

This never played on our season.

But someone stole someone's Chanel loose powder on SAS. I remember that. I was scared. I was like, it wasn't me. I know, I was like, listen, we're not even the same skin tone.

It can't be me. Yeah, yeah. And I don't even know what loose powder is. And I was like, I don't even wear loose powder. I don't even know what I didn't.

At that time, I literally had no idea what makeup was like to that level. I was like, it just me and my foundation, okay? Yeah, they found out who took it at the end of it. Yeah, it was in her bag. People are shady sometimes.

So anyways, things happen in the pods that you'll never and ever see. But going back to Emma, I really do like her with Mike. Though I kind of wish she ended up with Connor. I like Connor. I don't know how to feel because, uh, man, I feel like Connor and Brie have like really good

witty banter together. And I don't know why they have like a good like plain-ish relationship. Yeah, just normal-born people relationship. Yeah, we gotta know. I- well, that's the best type of relationships.

I feel like one, two people are just kind of met together. But I don't think that they're on med together. I think they're fun together.

And that's like the vibe again. And I think that's fun until it's not. But with Emma, I feel like Emma and Mike actually work really well. Can I just say, I want to give a shout out to Mike. I really like him.

They'll vote for what reason. I don't know, just the way he articulates himself. And I feel like- Not saying I don't like him. Yeah, I feel like I'm not attached to anyone yet.

And so I'm like, I think Connor and Mike are my two faves. Okay, I love Emma. Yeah, I love Emma. I feel like the first impressions.

It always changes by episode six.

I feel like my entire whatever changes. But anyways, so far I really like Mike. And I think Mike and Emma are really cute together. And I ship it.

“The only thing that kind of like bugs me is when Emma says,”

she's unsure if she wants to have kids. Mike says this, but I think Connor also says it to about how like great of a mom she would be. Mm-hmm, yeah. And I was like, I don't know, I just feel like that's not what you say to someone

who's unsure if they want to have kids. If somebody is on the fence about having kids, you don't say, oh, well, you'd be such a good mom. Like it just feels a little odd to say that.

I don't know if I would respond to someone that way

if they told me like they're not sure if they want to have kids. I don't think I'd, but maybe it's because Mike and Connor want kids, but they really like Emma. So they're trying to like, they don't want the no kids or unsure kids to be like the deal break.

Exactly. Exactly. It gets their way of trying to find compromise. Like it's not meant to be like malicious or mean when Mike says it. I feel like it's just way to be like, well, I want kids.

And I really like you and I love you and I want to work. Yeah, I want it to work.

“That's exactly what I was going to say is I think they just want to”

continue with Emma. So they're trying to be like, well, you can think about it. Maybe it's something that you can change your mind on. But I have a feeling that Mike is going to push it because he really wants kids. Oh, yeah.

And that's a deal breaker in a lot of relations. Yeah. But shouldn't it be like something you'd talk about before you get engaged? Listen, you know half of the intentions of all these cast members is to get screen time.

It gets really exciting when you get towards like getting engaged of like, wow, not only do I get engaged, but like, I'm going to be the star of the show. Yeah, or like you just get the experience at this time of Love Is Blind, where we're tends to seem deep, like everyone knows what the intentions are. And yeah, I think Love Is Blind is clearly like, okay,

who cares, like getting engaged and then figure it out later. Yeah, like move forward and mostly Mike's like a kid's not going to stop me because then I'll just say no at the altar or vice versa, even the Emma. Yeah, like listen, we have to take so weak. But I'll figure this out.

I'll probably get some brand deals at the end of it. Just getting maybe girl baby. I just like making assumptions that maybe shouldn't be assumed. But I'm assuming that. Yeah, but the kid thing is a big factor between Mike and Emma.

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What do you think about BreonConner? I loved BreonConner until episode six. I know, I did a literal one 80 on her. I did nine turn. I was like, oh, she's fine.

what are you doing in copo? Yeah, what is happening in copo? That's so funny that you say that because that's literally what I wrote on what the hat. What the f is happening in copo? I'm so dead because what makes her think that like she needs some sort of phase two phase three with the people that she dated in the pause. It makes absolutely no sense if you broke it off in the pods, then that's it. Like you don't need any other closure. You got that in the pods already.

What is there to talk about? Yeah, I found it very strange. She's bothered that no one is acknowledging their other romantic connections. I was like, duh, that was like, of course, but what do you want like Connor to have like a deep talk with Edmund talk about their romantic

connection in the pods? Like that is so disrespectful. Emma would never do that to you. Never.

But Breon is trying to do that with Chris. Chris of all people. I know, I was like, it's fine, but like, which is fine. But like, okay, he looks just like Connor just shorter. Like, I'm confused.

“Yeah, I can't tell. That's what I mean to say out loud, but they, you know, they have the beard.”

Yeah, the beard, you know, and men who have beard all look the same. Truly, yeah, truly. But I just was a little confused by it and it's also like, it's not even like the singles party where the singles come back, you know, where that's when you really start talking about people. But anyways, Breon confused me so much in this last episode. Like, she wanted that attention of like, oh, yeah, we did all these things, and you just like, aren't going to acknowledge it. Like,

it could be like, do you want him to like, fall over you? Mm-hmm. Do you want him to be like,

oh, I don't like my connection. I like you more. Yeah, is that the outcome that you wanted? Like, I'm confused. And I feel like she's playing my games like trying to make Connor jealous. Mm-hmm. Don't do that to Connor. Can I just say Connor's name? Like, right before the reveal, Connor and Breeze breezy got another spark on Megan breezy breezy breezy breezy. I just thought it

“was really sweet that Connor was like, you know, having like, not insecurities, but he was like,”

oh, like, is she gonna like me? And I was like, Connor, you're so cute. Like, I'm cool. She would. And so for him, not to have the confidence, I was like, oh, come on. Yeah. But it also makes him human. And I was like, I relate to you very much. Yeah, to feel like a little insecure about it. 100%. And the fact that now in Mexico, she's making him feel insecure is making me upset because I really like him. Maybe she's insecure herself, though. Maybe she needs someone to like,

kind of bond over her, feel like she, I don't want to say like fight over her, but she needs someone to like feel like they can't lose her because we've been in her position where we had, obviously, they weren't strong connections, but we had connections with the men in our main cast. Like, you know, I think you connected with Salat some point. I connected with Jared at some point with, I know it's very weird to say, but you know, like, yeah, we did go on dates with some of the men

who got engaged to our friends and that makes sense. You know, like, anyways, what I'm trying to say is,

I would never go hash that out. Like, for me, it's like, once you're in a relationship,

the other ones are over. Yeah. And it's not like how the singles were where like they're not without a partner. Yeah. Everybody in Mexico is with their partners. Yeah. So it's inappropriate to bring up your relationship that you had with somebody else. Yeah. It's not relevant anymore. It's human nature to be curious to be like, oh, like, you want to see what they look like, totally. But that's where you draw the line. Yeah. And then it just ends. You don't like, say, oh, but we had so many

like romantic interactions and dates. And like, how do we just let those go? No, yeah, you let them go

“breed. That's what it means like being a relationship. You don't like go think about your, like,”

past connections. Exactly. Especially when they're also there with their fiancee is like, what? And then also when she was like, oh, forget about just and Connor, like, we're still going to do all the things we said we would do in the pods. Like, go do these activities or whatever. I was like, no, you're not. That's, I don't think that that's appropriate. Yeah. She's very interesting. I'm very curious how their relationship is going to go in the episodes that drop today. I'm so

7 through 9. So I'm going to be very invested in their scenes. Another couple that I'm very invested in, just because I'm very curious, like, what their story line is going to look like is Alex and Ashley. Alex and Ashley. How you forgot, didn't you? I've got a thing. I was like saying Alex and Ashley, it's hard for me to remember everyone's names. Also, I think it's really hard because we've heard these names before it. Like, we've already had a Steven in season 7 of Love Is Blind,

the Washington D.C. Yep. We've had five Alex's. We've also had a Steven in Love Is Blind UK. We've had Amber ready, AD. Oh, and then Amber was season 1, too. No, season 4. She was in the

and then there's, oh, there's an Amber on the cast. Yeah, Amber. And then yeah, like you said a thousand Alexes. They're written Ashley from season 7, the one who got divorced. There's a lot Taylor as their Taylor. Yes. Oh, no. There's no, there's, I don't think there's a Taylor on this cast. No, there's a lot of names. Okay. And I need a cheat sheet. I need a freaking Jordan. Jordan. There is a Jordan. The guy who drank the chicken smoothie. Oh, Jordan. Yes. Yes, had two Jordan. Yeah,

“in the Denver season. And then here, because so like all the names like, I don't remember. Yeah,”

it's all over the place. Yeah. I'm good with faces just terrible with names. Um, but no,

Alex and Ashley, first of all, what a beautiful couple. She's gorgeous. I, I, when I saw them at

the reveal, I was just like, oh, they're going to make some D1 athlete babies. Like, I could get to get there. They're both tall. They're both gorgeous. Um, but no, she seems so sweet. So sweet. Alice, dangerous. It's his favorite word. Soccer and dangerous. Yeah. It's like dangerous. Soccer, dangerous. I was like, do you have anything else in your vocabulary? He's someone that who, who would use chat TV to send a hinge message. Oh, 100%. Yeah. And he would not be smart enough

to remove the dashes. He's out of control. He really needs to be real den. Alex is very confusing. And I did not think that he was going to be this person. But I should have known better. I should

have known better to have any hopes for this man to be a good person. The fact that you literally

are engaged to the more gorgeous girl, a lot of men would die to be with her and you're over here, like, actually, she's not one in time. I just fine. I don't think it's fine. Yeah. Which is

“absolutely fine. I was like, listen, it's fine if you have a physical type. I think unfortunately,”

I don't, which is why if you saw the men I dated, they're really, listen, they represent the world. But I think it's fine if you have a physical type. I wish I did. Okay. I wish I wasn't all over the board. But this is where I felt like he crossed the line. Someone needs to slap his hand. He needs to be real den. He sits down with Brittany. And he tells her about how his type is a woman with darker

features. What is Brittany have? He knew what it is. She doesn't have blonde hair. Let me tell you

that. She has brown eyes and brown hair and tan skin. Yeah. No, he knew exactly what he was doing when he was doing it. Yeah. Like, it wasn't like a, oh, I'm just going to talk about my relationship. Yeah. Like, she's not usually my typical type. Like, he was definitely flirting. And I think Brittany clocked it. Like, she was like, oh, you know, he, we need to watch out for Alex. Yeah.

“But he's so stupid. Yeah. He does not know that there's cameras everywhere. Really? If I sat”

down with you and I was like, Shane's great at all. But my type is an Indian woman. I was wondering where you would go. That was like, wait. And you're like, okay. So you're less than golden. That's exactly how that would be. Like, how do you risk your life? Like, it's so weird. But like, yeah, like, I'm really intending women. You know, it's like my type. My type is an Indian woman. Like, what do you say? I'm like, oh, yeah, my, but like she didn't give in a little bit too, though.

Brittany gave in a little bit. I was like, she was taking a bath. He didn't know how to respond. My, my typical type is tall, dark athlete. You're feeding is ego. You're feeding is ego. That is such, that's actually that's true. Alex is probably like, I'm tall, dark, and an athlete. You're like, did someone say, I'm a sock? Did someone say, Ashley? I was going to be drafted either top five or top 10. Okay. Listen, I'm sorry. He really needs to let that

soccer. I'm sorry. I was going to say he's got to let that soccer stuff go. Something that bothers me is when, um, where men who work college athletes, like they're like 42 and they're like, I was a college football player. And I just, we have to talk about this also with Alex, because is anyone else confused about what his profession actually is because he said he's a soccer coach, but what soccer coach can move to Florida for a couple months and then move to Vegas and then

move here and then move there. I'm just so confused. He's on the traveling team. Yes. He's on the traveling team. You know, the seven graders, we're like every somewhere. You get to like travel coaches like, you know what? I just work summers only the rest of the year wide open. We can go anywhere. I don't know. Maybe he's like the son of like really rich parents. That part was really confusing to me because he was like, yeah, um, we could live in Florida for a little bit,

figure that out. If we don't like it, we could go to Arizona. And if I was Ashley, it's giving couch surfer. Yeah. Yeah. It's giving Ashley is going to have to pay the rent. Yeah. It's

like skeptical on Alex. I feel like nothing that sounds as genuine. See, that was the lease of my

worries when he brought the show up. The, the most is when he said, oh, David Beck, I'm, oh, such, not a good soccer player. And I was like, oh, oh, sorry. Let's, let's see your skills, Alex. I know like, wow. The world really missed out. Yeah. He got those injuries. Yeah. Wow. No, literally his ego is through the roof. But yeah, the Britney thing really, that's when I was like,

“oh, this isn't going to end well. I think it was very telling when, um, after that couple's mixer”

Ashley asks Alex, oh, did you do a little flirting? I know she asks it as a joke, but I feel like she knew. Yeah. Like she was being a little bit serious about it. Either the producers said something to her and said, hey, ask, but you can tell based on her body language. And this is why I freaking love women so much because our intuition is so strong. You could tell Ashley felt some type of way

when he was like, even talking about it after she asked the first question. And I could tell

based on her body language. She did not like those answers. She's like, fuck, like, what's going to have? Yeah. She's like, okay. Um, and then the way he responded, he was like, oh, I don't think I did. Like, if you didn't, you didn't. Exactly. You don't have to like question if you did, you know, like, she's not very straightforward. Yeah. So uncomfortable. I hope the way Ashley responded isn't that she's like kind of pushing it under the rug, but it's more her just like collecting data.

“I think so too. I think it's the latter for sure because I hope so. Even when she was asking the”

follow-up questions or like, do you even have feelings for me or like, is this this thing even real to you? Like, all those like little questions. I was like, oh, her women's intuitions tingling. And she knows something is off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, Britney's in the same boat. Yeah. I feel like Britney knows like that relationship with Devante is like done for. I don't know what's going on with Devante, but I don't understand how he's not elated to be with Britney. I know the fact that

he said that he's never dated a person of color. And I'm like, okay, fine. But you are a person of color.

So it's not that hard to like get behind the idea. Neither have I, but I'm not like sitting there judging. I don't know. You know, it's just going to say, because you set on the show at the time, like you only dated white men. But I feel like you genuinely, really like shake and ever use that as a barrier. Like, yeah, like, what do you have? I feel like he just doesn't like her because she's

“not white. Exactly. I'm just going to say it. That's exactly what I think. And that's the product that's”

gross to me. Thank you. Yeah. He's not even trying. And for him to be like, oh, I need my space. I like to wake up and like journal and do this and there's this. You're not here to do that. This is not a vacation. Yeah. This is a trial engagement. I do feel that because his, um, his grandpa did pass away when he was in the pots. Yes. And so I was like, I don't know like, where's mental state? Is that? I feel like if I lost a loved one, especially someone I was close to and, you know,

there's cameras in my face. And I had to act like lovey-dovey. I don't know if I could be lovey-dovey. You know? Yeah. But I think then you would have left or I would have like set the expectation with my partner. Right. But I do feel like, yeah, he's just, he's not acting very kind to her, for sure. Exactly. You know, it was really sad about the whole Britney and Devontase situation. So when they were in combo, I think she says something like, I'm going to, I want to wait

before we have sex. And then I think she starts feeling insecure and she's not feeling love from him. And she offers it up. Yeah. Like as kind of like a, okay, like I need to fill the gap and yeah, to get to the next stage. Maybe I should offer it. Yeah. And I think that's so sad that you like have this boundary. And then you give it up because your partner is like making you feel so lonely or like not acting right towards you. Yeah. Okay. Let's move on to Chris and Jess because

would love your thoughts about them. That's all I can say. I had such high hopes for Chris. I did too because he seems like such a sweetie. But clearly, guys, Jess isn't infectious disease doctor. I know. What a freaking bad idea. No, and I was like, what are you doing? I love his mind. No, I actually really, really, really like just because so much. I think she has such a good head on her shoulders out as do all of the women that come through match. Yeah, much. But uh,

majority. Yeah, Chris. I like started to like him until he had that conversation with breezy. I feel like he was still being like a little, he was being respectful. It wasn't like bad. And the one thing that turned me off was the trailer. And then I saw the trailer for the upcoming episodes and I was like, oh, no, I'm going to drop today. Yeah. Chris is going to disappoint. And it's not going to be pretty. Actually, I'm not surprised. Okay. This is still random. This

I saw it. And she's like, he's in debt. He's shorter than he says he is. And he will

agree to go on a trip with you and split half of it. But he'll never pay you. Like something

like those I saw before like what? But sometimes it's really hard when like things come out about the cast members, especially if it's like their X is talking about them. Because you never know like, are they just saying it? Because they have like hatred for their X. Yeah. Because you know sometimes, you know, people are villains and stories, even though they're not actually a villain. You know, so it's that kind of, it's hard because it's like, she said he said type of stuff.

Is it entertaining? Absolutely. Yeah. Well, we'll have to see like what Chris is like in the episodes that drop today. I'm very curious. I have to say, I'm so happy we're past the pot stage episodes because they were just so boring for me. I know. Actually, you know,

who is really missing from these episodes, a fake and Christine? I forgot they went to Malibu instead

of Koppo. Yes. Which honestly, can I just tell you when I saw that? I was like, that's not

“least dream. It's just be like, film yourself and go to Malibu instead. Yeah. That's what I wanted.”

That's what you wanted. I already talked about it on this podcast. But when Shane and I got engaged, I asked the producers afterward if we could not go to Mexico. I was like a little bit worried about my job and like I just want to go back and I was like, okay, I got what I needed. Let's just go back to Chicago now. Like, I don't think we need to continue on with the show. For those of you calling me a cloud chaser and that I did it for anyways, but I had the serious conversation, but it was

Shane who was like, I would really like to like continue on. But I would have loved the option to just

go somewhere else without the camera. So there's a lot of speculation on why Vic and Christine went

to Malibu instead of Mexico. There's so many theories out there, one being that like one of them couldn't go because of their passports and their crime history. Okay. I want to talk about that. I love that they both have a misdemeanor for possession of marijuana. I know. It honestly, it was like, I like boxed myself up. I was like, yeah, this is match made in heaven. These two were supposed to mean like, I love it. Imagine if you had a misdemeanor and you met someone who also has the same

misdemeanor. I know. It's like talk about like fate and understanding. That's cosmetic. It's truly, if this doesn't make you a believer, I don't know what will. If this doesn't make you believe and fate, like, I don't know what does. I thought he was actually very, very cute, even though, you know, it's a misdemeanor, but I was like, imagine, like, just imagine. Yeah. No, I also love the way they talked about it. Like, okay, yeah, that happened. So it's nonchalant. Even their

review was just so perfect. I was like, they look gorgeous together. No notes on them. I don't know.

“Honestly, a season 10 of Ohio had to happen just so these two could meet. And if they don't get married,”

I don't know what I'm going to do. I think what really happened if I could guess is that there wasn't enough film crew to film them in Cabo. I don't think it was necessarily a budget thing, but it was more of like a personnel thing, because like, you know, the crews like unionized and I think it's really hard to find, like, last minute people to go film, like, this seventh couple. Yeah, they allocated for the six couples. So to have that extra, they were like,

this is actually my thing. Is they weren't planning on bringing vacant Christine? You know how they do that every season. We're like more couples getting engaged that are actually shown, but they were on like the cut list. Like, we're not going to film them. But there's a few days between reveal and the trip to Cabo. And obviously, like, producers still talk to cast members. So do the handlers. And I think they realized after talking to the cast members, like,

the chances are very slim. Like, someone's going to get married in this room. So we're going to actually follow someone else last minute. And potentially Christine. Yeah. What's going to be interesting

“is, are they going to bring all seven couples to live somewhere together? Yeah, I think so.”

I think they will. Yeah, unless like they didn't have it set up for they can Christine and this one, but they're going to find them, like, last minute accommodations. Yeah, I wonder if they're like a hustle and to figure it out. Probably. Yeah. But I know I'm really excited that they're following them. I think it's going to be, they might be the ones that save these things. No, I think so. Yeah. And I mean, marriage records were elite. I know I did see that. Yeah.

I did see that. I spoiled myself. I spoiled myself too. But I don't know if one of the couples actually went through with it. And I don't think they did. Oh, yeah. DG has some tea because obviously Ohio Midwest. We have friends who know some of the cast. Yeah, some of the cast. So. But there was eight engagements. Those like our season. Yeah. And so obviously they only wanted to follow six. But one of the

that always happens. Last but not least, we got to talk about Kevin Tyler and Kia.

First of all, I just have to say I love Kia because any girl or anybody on this show that chooses themselves, I am a big fan of you. So love you. She really had it. I choose myself moment. Love. It really rivals yours. Like, I was like, she's going to write a book next. It's going to be I choose myself part two. Love it. I'm here for it. Kevin reminds me of someone who just wants to grow friends. You know, Kevin's very confusing. He clearly didn't know what he wanted. But yeah,

I guess like, I'm off two minds though because I'm like, oh, it makes sense because you're in this experiment and you like two people. But at at some point during this experiment, you're going to have to choose. And well, he kind of choose Tyler, but then said he was pressure to choose her. That's

“which I actually actually agree, not that she pressured him too much. But I think he literally”

doesn't know what he wants. So when someone makes a decision for him, he's like, yeah, yeah, that was so confusing. And the fact that he backtracked after their party break, I was like, okay, so it took 10 minutes. And then you're like, well, I'm a little confused. I don't know why it's a lot. It's a Kevin. What? My favorite though is when he refers to the women in third person, when Tyler asked Kevin, like, who do you choose? And he goes, I choose Tyler. And I was like,

you're you're talking to Tyler. I was like, it's always like so confused. I choose Kia,

he has like something. And I'm like, what? Yeah, it's weird. I clearly, the girl saw something in him that they didn't like though, because yeah, you're going to miss that problematic. Like, he was confused about which direction to go, but I don't think it was that bad. I don't know if

“it's the edit or something, but I'm confused like what they're seeing in him. But, you know,”

people said that about me on my season. So I can't be judge you here. Yeah, no, he really doesn't know what he wants. I mean, Kia said it best in her break of sweet, where she's like, you're not ready to be anyone's husband. Yeah, I was like, ooh, that was, that was a really good line. And it was kind of deep, but I was like, is it warranted? And he responds and he's like, he, he, he, he, he, he's kind of like, he's kind of like laughs. You know, like, oh, you know, too. I know, well, he said,

I fell ready, but he was really unsure of that like statement. So I was like, maybe he is just, he's just someone who's very like unsure in life. Yeah, poor guy. Yeah. And the fact that he was going to propose to Tyler and she didn't show up to the date. And then he immediately was like,

well, it was always Kia, he goes, Kia, Tyler pressured me. Like, what? I did like, when Kia said to

Kevin, Tyler deserved more, too. I was like, good looking out girls girls. It's hard not to, like, when you're in that situation, it's hard not to blame the other woman. So I like that she kind of like stood up for Tyler, too. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. I wonder like, what's going to happen between them? But to be honest, even if like, let's say Kia and Tyler got engaged, I just feel like he, he already showed his true colors in the pods. Like, he, he wasn't ready for this. Yeah,

I mean, it would have been a dumpster fire. Let's just face it. The thing is, I feel like they would be very little drama because he would probably just like do whatever she said. I don't know. Like, she would be like, we're getting married and he'd be like, okay, yeah. So it really does surprise me how some of the people who are very like unproblematic in the pods end up being the most problematic later on because they reveal a lot more because we've said this before 100 times. Like,

when you're in the pods, you can be whatever best version of yourself that you want to be to everyone else because you're kind of like just talking versus later on in the experiment. It's all about actions and how you live and how you like interact with other people.

“That's when your true color has really come out and it's like, oh, who are you really?”

That's, that's true. That's very true. We know a best. Yeah. And it's going to be, I'm excited for this next couple of episodes pod episodes. Thank god they're gone. I need to see the bigger mixer where they start inviting like the broader cast. I need to see you guys living together meeting each other's families like that's the shit I love. Yes. So I can't bring on the drama, baby. Well, I can't wait to never see Steve at all my screens again and watch these next episodes of

his mind. See you guys next Wednesday. Bye.